OverDrive - OverDrive - February 6, 2026 - Hour 1 - Robert Turbin/Devin Hester

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The boys begin their third and final day on Radio Row in San Francisco discussing the 2026 NFL Honors winners and whether there were any surprises. Former Seattle Seahawks running back Robert Turbin joins the show to discuss the atmosphere of the Super Bowl in the Bay Area, the Seahawks advantage in the explosive play department, if this Seattle team compares to the teams of his era, and his experience calling games for CBS. Pro Football Hall of Famer Devin Hester joins the guys to chat about the new NFL kickoff return rules, what Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams have done for the Chicago Bears, and what to expect from the Patriots and Seahawks on Sunday.

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Right, here we go, overdrive off and running, live from Radio Row. It is a mail-in-in-friday, but it does not feel like it. We're putting in work here. Radio Row here in San Francisco. We're about 48 hours away from go time at the Super Bowl. None of those pigeon cardboard setups, as you can see again for day three. Everyone's looking towards a fan duel set. It is a thing of beauty being here.

Again, we've been here the last few days, and this will be it for us, but we've got a good one today. We've got Devin Hester coming up later in the hour. Our buddy Robert Turbin we've had on the show a bunch of times. Luke is coming on. Al's brother live from the Super Bowl. Al's brother will join us in about an hour. I still wanted to come flying through the set. I think there's...

Like Farley. It would be unbelievable. A 5% chance that happens. I don't think it's likely, but I'll say 5% many juries. I gotta tell you guys, two things. I'm gonna be nice to anyone that ever comes up to me for now on. I gotta get out of here.

I am approaching everyone and chatting. I mean, we had dinner with Teddy Bruske. We did not have dinner with Teddy. noodles, shut up. Did we not have dinner with Teddy Bruske? We were in the vicinity of Teddy Bruske. That doesn't mean we were seated with Teddy Bruce. I was waiting for something awkward to happen because you guys could have just went along with it.

He said, we had dinner with the champ, Teddy Bruske. We were around Teddy Bruske. You had a nice little conversation. I chimed in a little bit. Like, Teddy was at the bar and wanted to be left alone. Did you remember the initial interaction? Yes. Because about the TV.

No, no, no. Not that one, Teddy. Okay, you got to confirm something for me. You didn't hear the first interaction because I said, hey, Teddy, how's it going? We've had you on our show a couple times. And when he looked over at me, I honestly thought Teddy Bruske and I were getting in a tilt. Can you confirm something? Because it was out of my peripheral vision.

I could not tell if this happened. Right. Did you go to reach your hand out and he gave you the I'm not coming over to shake your hand? I thought I saw you. Yes. I thought you said, and this is, I'm not taking shots. Dude, Teddy Bruske, I bought him dinner. He shook my hand on the way out.

On the way out. But on the way there, did you put the hand out and he, like, turned? Here's what happened. O is a sit-at-the-bar guy, which I still find very awkward. Warming up to it. You're warming up to it. I'm warming up to it, but when there's more than two people, it's like the Seinfeld episode. Dugie was over here.

I'm here. Oh, is there, noodles is there. It's a tough conversation to include everybody. Very tough. But you wanted to sit at the bar, I said it's your call. Absolutely, we'll do that because we've been doing, the majority of it has been table seating, so to speak. Yeah. Right?

So we did the bar thing. It's all good. Teddy Bruske is about three or four. He's three seats from me. Three seats from me. I think you said, hey, Teddy, how you doing? And I thought I saw you go like this. Dude, what do you think I have go-go gadget arm?

Three stool down shake? I swear, you went for it. And Teddy basically said, don't even think about coming up. He might have turned away. Yes, but he was a great guy, Teddy Bruce. He fabricated that for the show. I'm just telling you what I thought I saw. That's all I can tell you.

But Teddy was, we were out for dinner with Teddy. I thought it was a bit off. I did not see that transaction because I came about 10 minutes later. But when we had one TV in front of us and you said, can we take that off? You started saying to the bartender going, we could put golf on. Can you put golf on? Right. And then Teddy asked if his TV could be turned on.

I just said, take that off. All right with that, Teddy, are you okay with that? As if it was his restaurant, too. Like Teddy Bruske gets to call the shots on everything. But he's a great guy. We love Teddy Brucey. Friend of the show. Friend of the show.

We've had meals with Al Roker and Teddy Bruske. And Schefter. Ed Shefty ever since you think of here. But I'm just saying stupid stuff, like on the way down here, I saw Rich Gannon. And for some reason, I just said, hey, Richie. Hey, go, he goes, hey, brother. I'm just like, you've got to stop this stuff. It's Panboy.

And it's so. Everyone's in a good mood, though. Everyone's in a good mood. The old Spice guy came and said hello. Yes, we saw your buddy. Isaiah Mustafa is a good friend. What an awesome guy. Awesome guy.

But I locked eyes with him. He's doing the old Spice rounds right now. And he looks good, came up, said hello to the boys. It was great to see him, absolutely. So, yeah, it's exciting. Like, we're final day here, obviously, a little bit bit bittersweet because, you know, once we get back to regular programming on Monday, it's going to be a very different vibe.

This is going to feel a lot different. It's going to feel a lot different. But we're, again, just over 48 hours away from go time with the Super Bowl. And last night, the awards went down. Matt Stafford, MVP, Mike Rable, coach of the year. And like everything in sports media, and we're all guilty of it, no one can win without an argument, right? So the big argument is Drake May should have won it.

There was one voter that voted for Justin Herbert. Who tried to explain himself today and got absolutely destroyed. Yes, he did. Now, I credit him for putting him stuff out there and saying, I'm the guy that voted for him. And here's why. And his explanation was reasonable. I don't agree with it, but it was based on the offensive line. It was a mess all year. Herbert was great. They still made it to the playoffs. They had no right to do that based on the offensive line and the protection. I understand the argument of the reasonable argument, okay? But when it's 23 and 22, and you're the one, there's something that.

He's the difference maker. It's a galaxy brain play. You're making it about yourself, and you're trying to think outside the box, and you're trying to bring attention to yourself in some capacity. Yes. I think it's crazy stuff, and you should never be allowed to vote again.

That's the guy from Pittsburgh who didn't have McDavid. McDavid at like fifth or something like that. But that's what happens with voters. Yeah, somebody didn't vote Jeter in, man. Jeter was one vote away, I think, from perfection. From unanimous. That was Hall of Fame. Yeah, unanimous Hall of Famer.

Crazy stuff. Everyone's got different reasons for whatever, whether we agree with it or disagree with it. But I thought it was an interesting argument or debate yesterday. Mina Kimes and Dan Rolofsky went at it a little bit because Rolovsky was on Stafford and Kimes was on May. And they both had great seasons. And, you know, Mina came with a bunch of stats and all that. And I saw like a kind of counter kind of debate, so to speak, online about if it's just about, then why do you even have people voting?

Right, dude, I totally agree with that. I think the stats have been, like, you look at stats in the National Hockey League and the Selke trophy, I think, is very stats, like, just people that brought the stats into it, take away, stick checks, all this stuff. They just don't, I think there should be a lot of fuel involved to it. When you're looking at an MVP or the best defensive player, just kind of, who do you think is the best guy? I don't know.

There has to be some human element. There has to be opinion. You vote, and you can bring a stats pack along with it, but there's got to be a bunch of field to it. Guys, I find when we do this, though, this exercise, stats are in. We're guilty of it. McKinnon's leading in stats got to be heart trophy. You know, but you're looking at Jacob Slavin, for example, for years has been like, this guy's one of the best defensive defenseman.

He's not up on the radar. Not even, you know, it's the guy with the most points seems to win the Norris. You know, it's like, to me, stats have to factor it in, but I agree with you. there isn't an ounce of eye test and opinion involved going, if this player was not on the ice for this team, where would they be? MVP argument. That's why we've had the Celebrini argument. Absolutely.

But if it's just stats-based, it's like, okay, this guy had the most points, he wins this. Well, and the term valuable opens the door up. It's an arbitrary definition of what you consider to be valuable, right? Which ultimately, how do you place a statistic on that? You know, like that's where I think it opens the door. We talk about this and the CFL. It's most outstanding player. It's basically simply who is the best player, right?

Now, value comes into all that, but generally it's like who popped the most, who had the stats, who looked the best, blah, blah, blah. Well, the NHL has a thing with the MVP where it's a got to make the playoffs so you don't win it. Well, that's his rule. That's his rule. I'm not alone in that. It's not his rule. I don't even vote.

That's the first time I've ever heard it was you brought that up. But it's true. No one's ever won it unless their teams went in the playoffs. But it's right. And I am a voter, and I'm glad that it's transparent. Not one guy has won the Hart Trophy, not getting in the play. I mean, not in recent history. That's actually, we should find that out.

If anybody's ever won the heart and their team didn't make the playoff. I don't think it's happened. Iggy got jammed by that, by what's his name? Well, Theodoli. Yeah, but the flames would make. That chaps your ass every day. It bothers me more than anything. It was a Jose Theodore that voted for himself.

It was the Montreal writers that, that didn't put Iggy on the ballot. They jammed him up. And I'm still mad at them about that. As you should be, I totally agree. Aginle was the MVP that year. I totally agree. And listen, no slight on the goal.

Theodore was great that season. He was awesome. But Aginle was the MVP. And it still bothers me because it's the same situation where if Iggy would have, if there were some Montreal voters that would have put him on the ballot, like at least had him in the top five,

he would have won on voting. Yeah. But they literally, it was like a conspiracy, theory. It's like, we're not going to do it. Well, I mean, there are ways you can technically doctor the vote. Like, if a guy's not even on the ballots, you know, and depending on, you know, how the ballot system works. In some leagues or some votes, it's 30 guys get a vote. And if you get a majority you're in, there's other times where it's like a ton of different writers are voting.

And whatever the majority is, that's what it's going to be. Anyway, we're live, Radio Row, Super Bowl right around the corner. We're making our picks today. Yes. So Luke is coming up. He is just. jacked up for that. Al's brother will join us. There are Devin Hester coming up, Robert Turbin coming up. We've got a lot of different people going to join us around the table. But we're going to make our picks. The NHL

season is officially on hiatus. It's weird to look at the app and see like February 25th. And no games, no nothing. No games. And now we know where the Leaf stand, right? There's six points out of the playoffs. We know where they stand. We know exactly, you know, who's healthy and who's not. And the Olympic

games are officially on. So we're going to start looking towards that as well. We're live, radio, R, Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSNF5. All right, overdrive continues. Powered by Fandul. We're live at the Fanduals set. Radio Row, San Francisco, and we've been here for a few days,

and we're looking for certain people, right? We want Super Bowl champs, ideally a Seattle Seahawk, and we've nailed it with both Robert Turbin join us around the table. How you doing, Robert? And don't forget the Bay Area Native too now. That's right. In Oakland, grew up in Fremont, so I'm Bay Area through and through.

Awesome, man. You take pride in that, the fact that the Super Bowl is here in San Francisco? I know what it is actually really awesome. It is awesome to see the Super Bowl here in San Francisco. It's been a long time since I've really been in San Francisco this long, going to different restaurants, going to different places, and seeing how lively everything is. I haven't seen San Francisco quite that way in a long time, so it is a special week. So you grew up a Raiders fan or a Niners fan? That's a good question. Yeah, we were a house divided, and we were probably about 95% Raider fans. Myself and my Auntie Alice, we're the lone-niner fans of the family.

Okay, so we used to get a lot of crap from everybody, but I was a 49er fan through and through. Okay, so there you go, and obviously now you're a Seahawk fan through it through, unless you want to pull a Tom Brady on us and claim that you don't have a dog in the fight in the Super Bowl. Did you think that was crazy, the overreaction from people about that, or what? No, I mean, you know, everybody's entitled to their own feeling, right? Yeah. So it's whatever to me. But for me, in terms of this game, it's Seahawks all the way, you know what I mean?

Absolutely. And that's both from a, you know, from a relation standpoint, but also, like, if I'm actually analyzing the game in a real way, I just think that Seattle's the better team. So that's where I was going to go. You feel like Seattle is the favorite they're going to take it home? Yeah, I just think they're more complete. Yeah. They have the ability to make more explicit. plays within their offense, even on the defensive side of the ball, too, in terms of attacking

the football, maybe forcing turnovers and getting takeaways and things of that nature, not to mention what they can do on special teams, which Rashid Shaheed. So the explosiveness, to me, I think, is the difference between the both teams. We spend so much time breaking down everything about this game, but if you wanted to look to one thing, would that just be it? Like, which team can pull off the more explosive plays and show some jam and just go forward as opposed to just the standard stuff? Yeah, no doubt.

When I was playing, we used to go into each game with the goal of making seven explosive plays offensively. Love it. So for the run game, that's a 12-yard run plus. For the throw game, that's a 20-yard completion plus. Wow. And we're just...

Seven total? Seven total. Combined. Why seven? Like, how do you get to that number? Percentages. Pete was not all about the percentages, but he looked at them closely. Like defensively, we wanted to get minimum two take away. Well, we wanted to win the turnover margin by two because statistically you would win the game

like 86% of the time or something like that. So the same thing with explosive plays. And I just think that the Patriots, they can make it supposed to, but it's hard to do against the Seattle defense. Right, right. Whereas Seattle, it's like every time you watch them, JSN's got a 20-yard catch at some point of the game.

K-9 does some spin move or something like that and is able to get a 15-yard run. And so I just think that they have the advantage in those explosive opportunities. Well, it seems like, as people are trying to predict what could happen in this game, we've been talking about it during the week that people are trying to compare this Pats team

to like the O2 Pats team to beat the Rams, right? That Drake May is the new Tom Brady and Brable's got Belichick elements to it. And we think that's crazy because it's a completely different roster. It's a completely different era. Do you see anything in this Seahawks team, though, that you compare to your teams, you know, back in the day, Legion of Boom, you know, Donald and Russ, I guess, probably a little bit different. But the backfield, maybe, do you see any comparisons that, because I'm not hearing that, like, this Seahawks team could be just like the team that,

you know, dominated when you guys did when you won your Super Bowl. Yeah, I'll point to two things. the one thing that really stands out with Seattle is just like the connectivity with the team. Like when we won the title, everything that we did on a day-to-day basis was for the guy next to us, you know? Like we had no hidden agendas or selfish things that we wanted to accomplish.

Like everything was about the team. You know what I'm saying? And you can see that within this team this year. Like it's all about being connected amongst one of, nobody wants the glory. Yeah. You know, we started struggling. when people wanted the glory.

That's when our team sort of started to break apart, right? The other thing that I would point to is, particularly with Kenneth Walker to third. So, like, when I played, my running-bats coach was Sherman Smith. I don't know if you guys remember watching him or not. He played nine seasons as a running back in Seattle. He coached his first 20 years in the league, coaching Eddie George with the Oilers before they became the Titans,

and obviously coached in Seattle. And he used to say, like, the special thing, about Marchand is you feel like when you give him the ball on any given down that he can take it to the house. Like that's what makes him scary. And I think in Kenneth Walker in his own way, you kind of feel the same way because his run style is so like, what is he going to do this time? He can just kind of break something special and take it to the house for 70. And so there's where I see some of the similarities between both teams. You talked about your special connection with teammates when you won the title.

I got to ask you, Luke Wilson is a colleague of ours. How many times did you go to pesos with him and drink beers? Not a lot. He told us you guys who went to some crazy place called Pace. He said, yeah, pesos. Does that ring of belly claims that that was a go-to spot?

No, that was a go-to spot. I didn't go that often. I'm not a heavy. But when I do drink, nobody's keeping up with Luke. That's for sure. That's a reality. So not often. But he's one of the great, great teammates.

could ever ask for. I still talk to Luke to this day. He's doing a bunch of stuff in Canada, but he was like, you could not have a conversation with Luke without laughing. Not one time. That's what made him. He's a big energy guy, man. We love him. Robert Turbin with us. And we, so when we talk to Luke, you know, generally we talk about the Seahawks Broncos Super Bowl. We try to dance around the Pat Seahawks. But, you know, it's crazy. We're here. again Seattle Patriots and obviously Malcolm Butler in that famous interception at the goal line

do you get like now that it's back and it's these two teams and obviously you guys were that close to a second Super Bowl do you get like PTSD with the fact that these two teams are playing again in the Super Bowl like I know the dust is settled I'm sure I don't know if it ever can completely but more than a decade later like how do you look back on

you got a ring but you're that close to a second one it's a good question actually having the first ring really helps you do get PTSD but you also look back at least for me you almost look back and just kind of like

laugh at it from a you know from a fan standpoint you think it's kind of funny because at the end of the day it's like I didn't call that play you know you look at it you look back not my fault

yeah exactly like hands hands off you know what like what were we even like it's hard to even upset anymore because you're like, what was that? Yeah. You know, it's like, I didn't call that in, so whatever. Yeah, we had Luke on yesterday and he was talking about it and, you know, it's, it's still

chaps his ass, but he's like, I'm at peace because he's seen all the videos, he's seen Belichick talking about their attack and what they were thinking and how much they were practicing, you know, a certain play. And so he said, like, I feel like there's more at peace knowing what they were thinking. No doubt. Have you gone through that too? Yeah, 100%. Like the more interviews that have come out and they knew exactly what we were doing based on alignment,

based on formation, based on personnel, and it's like, well, they practice too, you know? They're a championship caliber team too, and they got us, you know? Still a bad call at the end of the day. Exactly. But you got to credit them for knowing what was up. I knew right away you were saying bad call. When you say, Marshawn, you give him the ball and he takes a little. A bad call, you know.

And, you know, honestly, like, the thing that makes it worse, you know, when people ask me about it, because they'll ask me, like, well, what happened to the team after? And you probably heard, like, you know, after that, you know, it was tough, you know, for us to get back to jelling together. But it was just like, it just kind of felt like a lack of accountability. Like, nobody, you know, like, when have we heard someone say, man, you know, I was just a bad call? Yeah. You know, for the ones that were responsible.

So who's that? Is that Pete? You want everyone want to Pete to come out and say that or what? Probably, you know, somebody. Yeah. You know what I mean? But you've heard more defense to it. Well, the strategy, you throw it on second down. You've heard more strategy to it as opposed to saying, you know what, man.

That's sports, though, man. If it works, somebody's going to say that was my genius call. And when it doesn't work, you're an idiot. But you know what? I call games. I've been calling games for CBS now for four years and, you know, a team might go for it on fourth down and I may be up in the booth and say, man, I don't know,

I think you should kick the field goal right here. Right. And they might convert. But that doesn't mean it was a good call to me. I'll say, you know what? Good job, good execution, but that was still a bad call. And half the time, they end up kicking a field goal anyway. Right.

Later on in the drive. Yeah. You know, so, you know, I don't know. You're right. But I know for some folks, even if Ricardo Lockett catches that football and we win it, it's probably not even a conversation. But, you know, probably still not the best call. A lot of things had to happen to get there, right?

Robert Turbin with a Super Bowl champ. Call in games, like, does it give you a different kind of viewpoint on the sport at all? And, like, what goes on behind the scenes, the business element of it? When we talk to players, these guys play in the NHL, when you're a player, you're in, you're in your own world. But now that you're kind of on the other side of it a little bit, do you look at the game differently today than you did 10 years ago? Yeah, no, 100%.

All the stuff that goes into just one broadcast is kind of crazy. You know, I'm like, there's a truck full of cameras, you know? Like, I didn't even know, like, all of these roles existed. You know, when you watch it on TV, when there's the production aspect to it, when there's the entertainment aspect to it, then you realize actually how hard it is to do it, like on the fly, to call the play to evaluate a formation

or have an opinion or be predictive about what's coming next. And then you hear other guys do it, and they may fumble their words or they may... And when you've been in it, you're like, man, that's totally natural. And sometimes I'll see, like, on X, you know, people be like, this commentator, he sucks, or I'm, you know, and I'm like, you guys don't even understand, you know, like how difficult it is actually be up there on camera and be solid. You know what I mean?

And know every fact and know the names and know how to pronounce the names perfectly. Like there's a lot of nuances that go into it and it's brought a totally different perspective. I notice going to live events that I have more of an appreciation for how big of a deal it is. I think as athletes and players, you're going into the building three hours before anybody. You don't see anybody. You go right into your locker room underground and then you leave when everybody's gone. You don't really notice. But when you're doing games, you see all the people coming in the building, the excitement, and basically how big of a deal it is.

That's one thing I've taken about going to live events. Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, I come to the game. first of all the music is blasting in the car because you know you got to get hyped up then you get to the stadium you know you get ready you put your headphones on and you're just completely oblivious

to like everything else that's going on in the world man so yeah it's brought a totally different perspective for me well and Luke was saying and I think it lines up with your career too that like went to the Super Bowl so early in his career didn't understand it like it's like well this is just the way it works this is the way it operates and you're always chasing it again and you can't get

back but they said like when he came to Radio Row like his first two years or a few years in the league he never came because you guys were playing you know so once he came in year three and four and you're a pro and you're like man look at this whole thing yeah but like the Seahawks the pats they're down in Santa Clara they're not coming up here they're just in their own world during the Super Bowl week yeah no doubt right you want to stay away from the distraction but Luke made a really great point because I always tell folks this story when I get a chance like we won the Super Bowl my my second year. And I remember like, okay, so we won the Super Bowl second year, we lost in year three, and I remember having a one-on-one

conversation with my running backs coach, you know, because I was kind of wanting to take the next step in my career, right? Maybe get more opportunity. And I was, he asked me, says, you know, we just won the Super Bowl. Why do you feel so disappointed? Like, why is your energy off? And I'm like, man, I just want to, I want to build, I want to grow, you know, I want to be a starter one day, you know. I was like, okay, you. you know, you'll get there, you know. And I told him, I said,

which I had more playing time. And he said, and I told him, I said, you know, I would rather, because he was saying, like, your commitment and everybody's contribution matters. And I told him, I said, I would rather lose the Super Bowl as a starting running back than win as a backup.

And he looked at me like, you got to be kidding me. Yeah. And I doubled down. down on it. I repeated exactly what I said. I'd rather lose the Super Bowl as a starter than win. I'd rather win the Super Bowl as a backup than lose or whatever, right? And he said, you know what, you're going to take that back one day. And he was right. Because you realize how hard it is to get to that game. I never went back to the playoffs when I left Seattle.

Right. And so you appreciate it a lot more. Yeah. And now you're like, I got the ring that could never take it away from you, right? Yeah. Robert, great seeing you, man. Thank you for doing. this. It's having me, man. Enjoy the Bay Area, as you are. It's great. Thanks for coming in. We'll chat again down the road. Thank you. There is. Super Bowl champ, NFL analyst Robert Turbin. Thanks for having us. Here, Radio Row. Overdrive continues up on YouTube live. All right, overdrive continues live from the Fandual Set. Radio Row here in San Francisco. Just over 48 hours away from kickoff. Super Bowl 60. We've had a lot of people join us over the last few days. This might be the tops. We get a pro football Hall of Fame right now.

Yeah. Devin Hester's with us. What's up, Devin? How you doing? Appreciate you guys having me, man. I got to ask you about the jacket because these guys bother me. That's like the ultimate jacket, right? Yeah. Do you wear that if you go to like a cocktail party or something like that? No.

No? Of course not. He's normal. He's normal. You don't pull that out for any kind of occasion, like nothing. So I only really wear it when I get axed and it has to be a special appearance. but other than that, I don't pull this jacket out. So this guy is a lunatic for starters, all right?

So he played for the Maples, Toronto Maple Leafs, and they have a rule where if you're an alumni, you get an alumni jacket. Now, it pops, it's a beautiful jacket. It's not a pole football hall of fame jacket. He wears it to weddings, cocktail parts, the grocery store, you name it. This guy's walking around. They're bowling this out of proportion.

I just think it looks nice. And if you got like a wedding in the summer, a cocktail party. I see nothing wrong with firing that jacket on. Nothing at all. Where do you stand on that? Obviously you disagree. Yes. Yeah, I mean I went, I don't, like I say, I have to get axed to wear it.

Okay. And it has to be a paid appearance. Exactly. That is a normal approach to a beautiful jacket. I love it. I mean, it's a great looking jacket, but that's exactly how you should approach something. No one's going to pay me to wear my alarm night. I'm in the safe at home.

He pulls it out. Somebody says, bring it out. Yeah. And that's it. Most definitely. Okay. Okay. I mean, that, it does pop, though.

I mean, obviously, everyone knows you. We're at the epicenter of the NFL. But what's it been like you walking around here the last few days? It's been an honor. You know what I mean? And it's different when you get this. It's a different feeling. It's a different respect from the peers, the guys that play the game of football.

the guys that's playing now and the guys that retire. It's just, it's a different vibe of respect once you get this jacket, to be honest with you. Absolutely. Well, you earned it. I mean, in terms of the way you played the game, you know, the highlights, the kick returning, everything you brought to the game. When you look at, like, the kickoff rules today, I'm curious, how do you feel about the way they've adjusted things? I love it. You do?

I love the new kickoff rule. I love it because it gets a return of opportunity. get the ball. Back when you can kick it out of bounds when I was planning and there wasn't no rule. Like you kick it out of bounds and where the ball go at, that's where they place the ball. You kick it out of the end zone, we just put it on the 20-yard line. Now you're kicking it out of the end zone. They put it like on the 35-yard line or something like that. So it's forcing the guys to kick it to the return of now, which gives you more opportunities to get the ball. So what kind of numbers do you think you put up with these type of rules? Probably the same numbers I was having before they

change the rule the first time. Yeah. Massive numbers. Massive numbers. In terms of the Super Bowl and, you know, it's an outdoor stadium, the weather can be a little bit predictable. How does that factor into prep? Like when, like, it's one thing to play in a dome stadium, it's another thing when you're like, hey, it might be cold, it might be windy, it might be raining. Isn't it supposed to be raining on Sunday?

It might rain. It might get a little bit colder. Yeah. How does that affect the player, like yourself or anybody that's prepping for a game? You know it always sucks whenever you're playing the rain. especially when it's cold. And right now, you know, the weather's around. Here's playing around about the 50s and the 60s. You put the brain on top of that.

They're probably dropping another 20 degrees, you know. And so as a player, as an athlete, as a skill player, more so the line, they don't really care. But like as skilled players, we want dry climate. We want the ball to be dry. We don't want the quarterback to have no excuse why hit the ball was late or anything like that. And then as a guy that's filthy,

you want to be able to play on dry land so you can make your moves and you're about slipping. So the famous cold outside did you put layers on? You said linemen, they'd be out there to be slowing. It doesn't matter. Yeah. Would you layer up and would you feel like it would be different for your, not your performance, but your preparation for it?

Yeah, most definitely. Yeah, I think so because any time you put on extra layer, as a skill guy, I feel like it slows me down. Any type of layer, you know what I mean? If it's an arm sleeve or extra tights or whatever the case, me to stay warm, you You know what I mean? You put on hand warmers on your toes and stuff like that. That's extra weight, you know what I mean?

So as a skill guy, you wouldn't be light as possible. But my first year in the Super Bowl, we played in the rain. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, hey, if you're a football player, you're going to find a way to get it done. Right. Yeah, and that's it. I mean, I guess the ball's going in the air, right? You've got to be ready to play.

Somebody got to make a play. Absolutely. Somebody got to do it. Pro football Hall of Famer. Devin Hester with us. Are the Bears officially back, in your opinion? I think so. I think what really changed their whole organization is the head coach. And the minute they hired that guy, I already knew that it was just something special about them because you change around, you think about Detroit Lions. When I play for Detroit Lions,

to be honest, we didn't even think about really, really like, oh, this is going to be a good game. You know what I mean? Detroit Lions just outside of Calvin Johnson, you know what I mean? you set him down, it's like they're not really irrelevant. Now, the last couple of years with Ben was there. Detroit was like one of the most dangerous teams in the NFL.

There was always winning plus 11, 12 games a season when he was there. And now you bring him here to Chicago. And it just changed our whole offense around. The mentality of the players, man. Like, I go to the Bears games probably about three or four times a year.

I always like to walk in the locker room for pregame. And it was just a different, different atmosphere. Like, everybody was smiling. Everybody was happy from the equipment guy to the training staff. You know, everybody just seemed like they had something special in that locker room when it came to him. And when you get a coach like him that's fired up, taking off his shirt and pre-game warm-ups and things like that.

Yeah. That's the type of, as players, that's the type of coach you want to play for. And that's the type of coach you would run through a brick wall. Especially when he said he just loved beating Matt Lafleur. And they had those exchanges. Like, the Chicago fans absolutely. ate that up, man. Yeah, I love that.

You take all of his shirt, you got your six-pack popping, chest. You flexing on them, man. You're like, this is my type of coach here. That's what you're looking for. And then you brag, you know what I mean? And then after the game, you're like, yeah, Matt, you're doing all that talking. Yeah. Quick hand say, I'm a part of here.

That's right. That's what I want. You know what I mean? He iced them pretty quickly, man. He iced them pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah, it's interesting you say, like, you could feel the different kind of energy in the building. Yeah.

And it's generally from the coach. There's a lot of people point to the quarterback, obviously, too, and Caleb had a really good year. Yeah, yeah. You know, where does he factor? And is he right behind the head coach? You got to quarterback that status? I think the way Caleb played this year had a lot to do with Coach, Coach Ben.

Like I say, he's a unique coach that can utilize his players and their special talents. He's not one of the offensive coordinators where they're like, this is my playbook, learn it, whether you like. or not. You're going to be a sit-back three-step pass or five-step pass or sitting in pocket, throw the ball. No, okay, we know you like to use your legs. This is the reason why you're drafted as a first draft

pick in the NFL. You wasn't drafted to be a pocket passer. You, when you got, when we rated you, you, you got rated as the number one quarterback in your class in the number one drive pit because you use your legs to make plays. Why take away from it now? We're going to utilize

what your strength is, put it in my playbook, and we're going to figure out how we can work together on both parts. What makes you great? What makes me great? And we're going to combine it. And that's what he did with Caleb this year. Like, you can, the throws that Caleb made this year, you would be like, wow, these are like Aaron Roger Prime.

Yeah. Passes. Like, you know what I mean? A Tom Brady, no look pass types of. Like, these are those type of pass that he's throwing. You know what I mean? So it's special to see how this guy is going to be four or five years from now. Yeah, he's got a lot of town.

They're going to be special, man. Yeah. What about the Super Bowl this year? We got Seahawks, Pats. You got to lean one way or the other? I just like Seattle. I feel like what Seah was doing right now. The offense is playing good.

The defense is playing incredible. They got a great special team. And it's like they're hot right now. And it's always like that every year in the NFL, you have one or two teams that you're like, wow, they play a good football. You know what I mean? And I would say like the last eight games of the season from playoffs to regular season, But you can tell who is a team that's just playing good football right now. Like a team, like, you would say, like, Seattle would be a team that,

you'd be like, I don't want to play these guys when they playoff time. And I'm pretty sure, like, a lot of teams would have said that. Like, Seattle is a tough team to play when it's playoff crunch time, and I don't want to face those type of guy, and that's how Seattle playing. Yeah, that seems to be the everyone's lead in Seattle right now, man. Like, do the patch feel like a big underdog to you, though? They do. They do.

I appreciate it. Like, as players, you read this type of stuff. You look into it. When you're in your hotel room and you're preparing for the Super Bowl and I play for the Patriots, I want to hear what fans are saying. I want to hear what the reporters

are saying about us. You know what I mean? So, like, they're reading it. They see it, and they know right now they're the underdog. You know what I mean? And they feel like they have some approved. So we're going to get the A game.

You know what I mean? It's not going to be a blowout game. They're not going to lay down. Now it's up to us whether or not we capitalize and do what we need to do to win the game. Right. The players, do you guys know the spreads?

You know the spreads. And you take issue with them sometimes? You're like, how are we a four and a half point dog? We're better than that. Yeah, most definitely. Like, you know, the points bet, you know, you know everything, the odds, the favorites, who's going to score this, who's supposed to score this many points? Like, I knew the bet when I was going in the Super Bowl.

Like, I knew the odds of me taking it to the house was like 100, like, no, I think it was either 100 or 1,000 or 1. Yeah. Like, I knew that. You know what I mean? So, they're like, sure, I got a lot of money on them. I got motivation. So, you know, at the end of day,

when you have those type of odds and those bets going against you, man, it's like it makes you want to accomplish. Absolutely. Pro Football Hall of Famer, Devin Hester, with us. And so you've been doing the rounds here, porkrines.com. You're working with them? Uh-huh.

So what are we got here? So it's on their 17 anniversary, right? And they started up 17 years ago. Mike Dicca kind of started it up. And it came from a lot of guys in his era, right? They played football. And we know back in the days that guys who wasn't making the type of money they're making now. And for guys that don't know, after five years they're retired from the NFL, they take away your insurance.

So you're like, it's like, you know what I mean? You work at a job. And then after five years you get fired from it. You don't have no pension or no insurance. So those guys back then, they're struggling right now financially. You know, and I was able to sit in the room when I got inducted to the Hall of Fame, and we had a room where it was just only Hall of Famers. And all the older guys were just so frustrated on how the league is stepping in, helping out,

benefit-wise, when it comes to insurance and health problems. And there's so many guys when you're in the Hall of Fame. All those guys play in about eight years on up. So you know injuries occur. And they didn't have the technology back then to fix a knee or to replace a shoulder. You know, we just didn't have the technology back then. And so those guys that had the surgeries done back then, it was probably open it up, put a piece of tape on it.

Right. Try to stitch it up the best you can and stitch it back up. You know what I mean? And now those surgeon injuries and the surgery's coming back up. Well, man, I got to get my whole knee replaced now. And so now you're talking about a guy that's saying, man, and it costs $15,000 to $20,000, replace the whole knee with no insurance. So now they're pouring up and they're raising fun.

The pork rinds selling them and try to raise fun and it's benefiting to give back to those guys. And I feel like right now in the situation that the league would just step in and say, hey, man, the best we can do is to give retired players insurance. No kidding. That's incredible. That's the least you can do. You know, this is a billion dollar industry. All players that least pay, just say for five years, you qualify for life insurance. That's a big help for everybody.

That's amazing. That's great stuff. Well, Devon's great seating, man. Thank you. We can't thank you enough. And rock that jacket more, man. Take it out, we're ready. A little bit more.

Cotter parties, whatever you got. We appreciate it coming by. All right. Thank you guys, man. Thank you guys, man. There's Justin. Safe trial with two, Max. You too.

There's Devin Hester. Pro Football Hall of Famer. It is a good-looking jacket, man. It is. Cocktail party, anything. No. He laid it out for you very clearly. I'm not pulling it out of the closet

unless somebody... Someone's paying me to bring it out. I love that. Yeah, that's outstanding. Because he's not going to the grocery store and putting it on. He knows he's a Hall of Famer. Yeah, exactly. That's the beauty of it.

When you have the cachet of a Hall of Fame career... Will you wear Al's brothers getting married? Are you going to wear the alumni coat to that? I don't see why not. I think it's mandatory. If we get the invite, I mean, there's no guarantee. He might not. If you guys lose this whole thing, he might disown you again.

Well, we might have to do the same to him. We might actually decline the invite if he doesn't have the right info coming up. had a lot to say this morning you too. We had a good check on the text? No, we're just trying to, you know, we're trying to connect and confirm what's the right play. Luke and I had extensive meetings yesterday

about our picks. We're ready to go. Drinking is when you had your extensive meetings. Okay. And late night meetings. That's what it was. All right. Well, we'll see, man. That's coming up in about 15 minutes. Mail it in Friday brought to you by Boston Pizza. This is a big weekend for Boston

Pizza, too. A big Super Bowl. weekend for Boston Pizza. But yeah, Hester, it's interesting what he said about the kickoff rules too. Like he's the greatest of all time when it comes to that. And now they'd force you to kick to a guy like him. That would be terrifying him and his prime and this guy's winding up and you're trying to chase him down. Didn't he take it to the house in a Super Bowl? Yeah, I believe he did. And that's why he knew he knew the odds. That's why I love how he said. I knew they were. They were betting against me. Yes. I knew exactly what the odds were. I knew exactly what the spread was. And he brought up Mike

Didka. Remember one of the famous clips on our show or in the history of our, I guess, station was when I asked Mike Didka if he knew what the spreads were when he coached and played and he almost shoot my head off through the phone. He was furious. He was so mad at you. He was furious.

Yeah, here's has to right off the bat. Start in the Super Bowl, man. First play on the Super Bowl house. And they went on to lose that Super Bowl. I wasn't going to bring it up. That was Rex Grossman, was the quarterback back then. that was trouble, but that was Erlocker was there and Riggs. They had a great defense and Lovie Smith was a coach.

And Hester was just a one-man show. Awesome. Awesome. Yeah, I love that. But, yeah, that was a lot of fun, man. That was a really cool thing. And he's on Seattle, right? Like, it does seem to be a pretty consistent theme around here that people are on Seattle.

You can't give it away, but are you guys going to. We'll let you know. We'll let us know. We'll let you know how we're going to play this out. I mean, one of us is going to be on the total. One of us is going to be on the spread. Right. And then there's going to be props, and we'll find a way to figure it all out, right?

I'm fired up for this. We're working it out. We talked to Teddy Bruske last night, and we're picking his mind on maybe what we should do. Teddy wanted nothing to do with you. I told you in the past, I think it's crazy how you and Al's brother go down different avenues where you think certain things are just going to all of a sudden happen, a late score, this or that.

It's like you're trying to visualize the whole. And I think that's crazy to be it. You have to do that, though. That's the beauty of football is that there's such a buildup, and the fun part is trying to visualize how it's going to play out. The problem is you talk yourself into it like it's the truth. Yes, that is true. You get into a bad place.

I don't know how many times we've said on this show. It's like, well, we've already established that this is going to happen. I'm like, that's not true. It hasn't happened yet. Yeah, you're right, because that's exactly what it is. It's like I see 27, you know, 10. We've already established the game that's never going to win. whatever you said.

You've already a stat, you know what I've... Never a hard, never a scoring title. But you took it back. You actually said like... Well, I wouldn't say I've taken it back. Now, it's interesting you bring that out because I was punching the numbers on McDavid. Oh, yeah?

Because now he's at the break, right? And what does he play? 58 games, I think. Yeah. I think they have 24 games left. He's sitting at 96 points. So in order for him to hit his record, he's got to put up some big numbers.

His record's 153 points. Right? So he needs 57 points in his last like 28 games. That's asking a lot. And he's sitting at 34 goals. He needs 31 goals in his last. I don't think he's going to get his career numbers. Were we talking to?

Was that us that was talking about last night? Coming out of the Olympics, are they going to get a break? Or is it like what we saw of the 4-Nate? McDavid won the Four Nations on a Thursday night. He played Saturday at noon in Philadelphia. whatever, 38 hours later. Like, to me, these guys coming back from the Olympics, are they going to get a little bit?

They're going to get a couple of days, but then it's go time. But I would argue, you know, some players should take a break. The thing is, if you're Tampa, maybe you can do that. Exactly. You can't if you're Edmonton. No, you can't if you're, you know, Matthews, Lander, all of these guys. You're not in a playoff spot. You've got to play.

I told you guys my favorite Olympic story. Is Matt Sundin won gold in Italy, I believe? And Fergie was like, we don't want you to go to Sweden to the parade and the celebration. We need you to get back. Come on. Sundeen went. That's a cap.

That is ridiculous, though. I love that, like, basically, Fergie, I'm giving you, I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you The gratuitous ask, like, I don't really care what you have to say. I don't, I think Virgie just might have piped up and said, Hey, we need your back. Forget about going to Sweden, just come straight back, and Sundin went. Yeah, actually, that's not happening.

And I think he went from the basement of a club in Sweden, Stockholm, right to the rank in Toronto and put his gear on and played. Legend. Legend. Well, that's Matt's. In Sweden, it's like Salming and Sundin. He was the captain of that team. He was the king.

It wasn't Forzburg. It wasn't... Matt Sundee and Sweden is the king, man. The king. All right, we got Luke Wilson coming up. We got Al's brother joining us. So we're going to get to our picks in the next hour. We're moving towards Super Bowl Sunday.

The flip of destiny, we're going to reveal, are we on heads or are we on tails? Make sure you download the Fandrel Sportsbook app so you can take part in that. We're looking ahead of the Olympic Games. The NHL is officially on a break. Raptors winning big last night. They didn't make any moves. So there's a lot going on in the sports world. Hour two, final hour coming up, live from the Super Bowl, Radio Row. Overdrive continues.

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