OverDrive - OverDrive - February 7, 2025 - Hour 2
Episode Date: February 7, 2025Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Michael DiStefano for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Analyst Mike Johnson joins to discuss Anthony Stolarz's notable return with the Maple Leafs, Sidney Crosby's in...jury outlook and the 4 Nations Face-Off impact. They also discuss the Phoenix Open's tournament, Tiger Woods playing at the Genesis Invitational and Al's Brother gives his rankings on the Canadian teams most likely to win the Stanley Cup.
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From the Super Bowl Mike Johnson coming up here in a moment
You remember when Mike Johnson walked in from the Sports Center set and he first laid eyes on Al's brother
And he had his ear buds in yeah, that was Johnny's ear buds in his ears
That was the walk that was your introduction ever the world. Yeah. You'd never been on the show really before or anything.
I was just hidden the hole. There was no viz of me.
Mm-hmm. And then I came in to do a Jerry's cuz I don't Johnny was out doing a hit or something and
he came in. I remember it vividly too. Like I was kind of in a bind.
No one gave me any cans or nothing and I'm sitting like oh, oh I got to be able to hear it's Jerry's right like you got to hear what the G so I
just chucked them in my ears and didn't think twice about it and then yeah Johnny
comes in he's like are those mine yeah they were his they are oh he was very
happy to see you he just say after keep them don't worry about it he threw them
in the garbage he tossed those things in the garbage it is got incinerated I mean
it is kind of tough like the the earlobe things like you don't really want anyone else using those you know what I mean
like I kind of get where he's going with that where I don't blame the guy at all for that. Yeah
it's all good but that was uh that was your introduction to the world basically into this
show. We had we had had you on like he said before kind of voiceover and stuff but
Johnny's coming up here in a moment and
yeah we'll see what he says about that Leaf game last night he was calling and I guess there's uh was it Dragg's last night saying Braden Shen is a guy that could be available all of a sudden and
maybe St. Louis is looking to make some moves and maybe Jordan Kairou could be available and
I don't know like St. Louis, they kind of lost the plot.
Like it's Vancouver and Calgary, and St. Louis
has kind of dropped off a little bit.
And they still have potential to get in.
But they've just been a middling team now
for a couple of years.
What makes you wonder why,
when Armie was looking at Jimmy Montz,
he was like, when I'm hungry, I want a steak dinner, I eat.
Yeah. It's yeah, it's like
For what why were you so hungry with that guy available when you guys are kind of?
They are what they are like they've proven that they won't
All the sudden just climbing up and being a contender so yeah I don't know. I think that's a really weird place to be in pro sports because
Where's it gonna get you ultimately probably not very far and i don't know
either get in and get pumped or you're just gonna mess and you miss out on
lottery picks
you want to be brutal like you want to be in last place you could do that was
not very fun
so you want to give your fans a little bit of excitement but just
as far as actually competing and being real deal
You're not you're not that no
They're not like Utah has passed st. Louis now in terms of points
And there are eight points out of the playoffs like it's basically done. They played more games than anybody else, too
They played 55 games. Yeah, so a team like Utah with all due respect to Utah
They're not trying to sound like
Okay, let me hear it.
No disrespect to Arizona.
When they pass it, you're probably like, maybe it's not our year.
No, it's over.
Johnny's got the numbers on passing teams and making it with the...
Like, it just doesn't happen.
No, it doesn't happen.
In St. Louis, there's a Raptor connection there.
They both won in 2019. both had never won before.
Then both were competitive for a while.
Both of their coaches left.
Now they're just kind of at the bottom
and trying to figure out exactly where you're going.
And the Raptors, I guess, acknowledged that
in the last year, like we gotta go in a different direction.
Maybe that's what St. Louis is about to do.
But Braden Shen is 33, still got a couple years left
on his deal.
He's got a no trade clause. Doug Armstrong the GM would have to convince
him to go but he's a compelling compelling piece man like he's he's a
really good player he fit pretty well in Toronto and the guy behind the bench
knows him very well so what would this is the old who would say no like what
kind of package would the Leafs have to put together to get Braden Shen and how how far are you
willing to go in order to acquire him because again I think he would check
multiple boxes and that is he's got term left on his deal. It's not a rental I
think he's got two years left at 6.5 million. You don't even know because
everybody's fascinated and it's big talk amongst us, right?
Maple Leafs, but when other teams are looking at the Maple Leafs
Like if you were st. Louis overdrive, who would you be saying? Yeah, I'd love to pluck that guy off that roster
It's not Pontus Holmberg. It's not Nick Robertson. No, probably not even mitten right now. So what is overdrive st
Louis saying man, I'd love to pluck that well now I want to be at the top of the list, obviously robertson now probably not even mitten right now so what is overdrive saint louis saint man
i'd love to pluck that well cal and get the top of the list obviously
yet it is it is it is that you never know
yeah and i i also think you gotta be a reasonable terms of exactly what the
prices for bradyn shen because
you know he's he's a he's a good player he's a winner and he'd if he's your
third-line center i think you're very happy with that but he's not a guy that's going to put up like massive point production. No. But he brings
a lot of intangibles, he brings toughness, he's obviously won a Stanley Cup, he meshes very well
with your coach, there's a lot of value in that, he's got 11 goals on the season, 30 points in 55 games.
and he's got 11 goals on the season, 30 points in 55 games.
Yeah, I think Easton Cowan picks, that's probably what you're talking about.
And if you're gonna move off a guy like that,
who's your best prospect, it can't be a rental.
And that's what makes Braden Shen unique here
is it's not a rental.
You're getting him for this year and two more, which-
The age worry you though, at 33.
Yes, and it probably should yeah it
probably should here's Mike Johnson our TSN hockey analyst joining us here in the
Maple Toyota hotline what do you make a Braden Shinn and his possible fit in
Toronto if it got to that point yeah I think he'd be pretty good let's be honest
like all the concerns are valid normal under one have them, you know, is he's played a hard game.
Where's his game going to go right now?
But if you think that he's going to be playing behind Austin Matthews for the
duration of his career or that contract in Toronto, um, he won't be cast with
those kind of things, probably John Tobaros will be around, make an interchange
depending on how things are going.
Um, yeah.
And I think, you know, you're
looking for 20 goals and 45 points, something like that, like as a two, three line center,
that's something you can finally get behind. And I'm sure it would cost a lot because of his
resume and his accomplishments, but as far as just fit, like I was sitting there a lot of days, Hayley,
and with Marner returning to line up,
and they were kind of shuffling the lines around,
and McMahon playing well,
and I was trying to sit in there with Masters Nation,
we were trying to figure out like how
to best optimize the Leafs lineup.
Because if you put Knives and Marner with Matthews,
and you put Nylander and McMahon
with Tobaros, those are probably the six best boards right now available to them.
If you put them all in the same top six, then you're left with a third line.
Who's on the third line?
In the playoffs, who's in your third line?
And you're going to count on Yarnpott coming back, because Max Dolby is not probably ideally
a third line kind of player.
Is it going to be Robertson?
Who's going to be the centerman?
It's not Holmberg.
Like you basically kneel the entire third line, depending on what you think about Max
Dolby in that role, which is part of the reason why they put Dolby on the first line yesterday,
because if it worked the way it went yesterday, Domi's on the first line,
Mar's on the second,
McMahon's on the third,
you get Yarbrough back.
Now you're sort of just one player short,
one third line center,
one Braden Shen,
one whatever, Yanny Gord,
whoever it might be,
and then you sort of have all your lines line up.
And then I think that's part of the discussion.
Like if it's,
if you're gonna have a
Third line with Max Omiya, you almost need three new players. It's initially dynamic
I think they're trying to maximize what they have and the talent available to them and not have that many needs
but certainly no matter which way you cut it I
Think to optimize their lineup
They need a third line center and matches
tried to try to do it at best he could
not as preferred or best position
and i think if they got it
at the brock nelson uh...
charlie poehle uh... bring shan whoever like it done
change the complex in the team pretty significantly
what is it cost of jodi we mentioned a lot of any of the show that were sick of
talking to joe from the bridge about his trade possibilities
It's nice to have you on
Brayden Shen, what would st. Louis say if you give us that you can have Brayden Shen? I bet he gave my first round pick
That's it I
Think a lot of people sign up for that
But I mean sounds like they want a little bit more excited dragon was on the morning show today says that they call i
the prior note it's a first round pick i'm signing up that all day from toronto
yeah i mean i i don't i don't know what they determine the contract not make
them significantly more valuable
uh... more the fact that you take a contract off their books that they
probably get rid of about for the gate
the value of
the control.
I don't know, first round pick and give me, you have a first round pick and whoever, whoever you choose is the third best prospect in this organization. So anyone but Cowherner Minton,
take that guy. And or Nick Robertson if you like. I mean, I don't just toss names around, but
you know, if you like Nick Robertson, if you think you have something there,
I don't just toss names around, but if you like Nick Robertson, if you think you have something there, first rounder and some other relatively significant piece not named Coward
or Minton, I don't think that's out of the question.
I don't think that's a homorism Toronto look at things.
Maybe a first and a second or first and a third, whatever it is.
Something like that, to me, would seem reasonable for a guy like Brandon Shen given how good
he is, but also the fact that he's he's got three more years at six and a half
million dollars on a you know declining asset as far as just because of the age
and everything else I don't think that's another question for the Toronto Maple
Leafs or any team in the league to kind of offer up a package like that. Yeah
which that kind of sounds like the Ryan O'Reilly package like basically what they
gave up to get him was like a first and a another pick maybe a first and a second
But he was expiring so like it's an interesting question in terms of the value like do the Leafs
I would think the Leafs would value a guy with term
But to your point the contract is right like yeah value you turn it about it is a good value deal right value
brady shen a ten million dollars a term of the terrible situation so
depend would you think of the six five and the president to take a cap
could be a son of it then it gets then then it starts get spicy then you got to
pay more for that but that could be worth something for the leaves
and then then
you look at him and you know cable he's made available now but you look at him and you look, okay, well, he's maybe available now, but you look at,
you know, if you think Brock Nelson is going to be there, if the Islanders turn that direction, there's
probably Coraline, probably Zach or, you know, different players like that that have term.
Um, you know, then you can also take your pick. Um, Ryan O'Reilly, I don't, maybe you can try to
course Nashville to get him back. Maybe it's a bigger trade to O'Reilly and Luke Shen
Like I think that would be you know
those would fit some pretty important foals right now like this is the thing they're exploring and
And I think everyone is sort of just feeling each other out as to what the demand might be and then what the players
Who would be getting traded if they have protection think about these things things. Johnny, I mean, you talked about Max Domi. Now he, you know, he doesn't really have a full fit
on this roster. Like, are you convinced that the Leafs want to try and make it work with Domi?
Because if you're bringing in these players, I mean, with the cap where it's at with the Leafs,
our money's got to go out somehow. Like, would that be a name that you try and move around to
try and open up that space? Sure, Amy. But I mean I mean I don't think, you know, Max only with three more years that just under
four million dollars and what did he have?
Three goals?
Yeah.
You know, I don't know if that's going to be an incentivizing move.
I mean, Max had good moments, Max had been a good player, but the way he's played so
far this year, I don't think adding him to a deal
is gonna make the deal more palatable
to the team acquiring him.
So yeah, I don't think it goes down that road.
I think Max is gonna be on the team,
and it's on Max and the team to find a squad
that gets him playing or he's a contributor.
Yeah, I think especially if you're talking about teams
that are looking to tank or rebuild or shed money a contributor. Yeah, I think especially if you're talking about teams that are looking to
tank or rebuild or shed money exactly Domi does not exactly he's not going to be a compelling
piece there but he's got to find a role here like they've invested in him they've paid him
he's got to find a role and I guess that's Borube's job as well to figure that out.
But what's kind of incredible is like the logjam now in the wings, you know, we, I
don't love the idea of Domi up the middle of the ice, especially come playoff time,
but with Knies and McMahon playing the way that they've been playing, it's really balanced
out both wings.
You know, like obviously it's always been Matthews, Tavares, Nylander, Marner, and clearly
the right wing is still tilted in terms of supremacy and talent and production but Nyes and McMahon are giving
Barubei options and they're both scoring at a very very solid rate and
They play a very meat potatoes game that I think allows
You know you to breathe a little bit easier than maybe we thought they would at the start of the year
Yeah, and and I think there is something
that like the idea of you know courses for courses like I think both Nyes
McMahon play a style that works with what Craig Borubey does. Maybe more
than Max Omi plays a style. Max Omi is very much a rush player and wants to
create offensive chances in space and those guys are more straight line
players as you mentioned front net guys and the only and the one consideration I have and I sort of like try to articulate this during the games hard to get out there quickly, but
Bobby McMahon has it's just been an incredible story. I think yesterday his goal
I think I said it was his 30th goal in the last 76 games. He's played
That's crazy for a guy that started that run on a day where he
was supposed to be scratched and he got a hat trick on just for Valentine's Day last
year.
That's right.
And I almost wonder if he is so like uniquely valuable on the third line. Obviously he's
playing better than whoever, you know, Pacioretty or Dolby or whoever else they might put in
the top six. But McMahon has a little bit of William Neal and a rhythm in that he
doesn't need sort of other people to help him score.
He doesn't need a whole system and infrastructure and support.
He's a straight line, blazing speed, heavy shooting player.
And on the third line where you get the best matchups on a team, because you're
not, you know, you're not checking the other team's top guys and the other team's
top guys are not checking you defense and otherwise like he can do things with
Holmberg in the middle and Robertson on the wing who are not really facilitators
it's just that's not what they do and not that he's lost but like you can
almost maximize your roster by not playing him with Tavares.
Even though he's clearly the sixth best forward on the team.
Like Phil Kessel and Pittsburgh, again, not the same kind of player, but the idea of Phil,
they won the cup, he's a third line winger, right?
With Carl Hagelin.
And I think that kind of idea where he's so good in that third line role that you can
put a lesser player in the second line because McMahon and his talent and the way they sort of work in the third line I again
trying to optimize what they have it seems to make right now more sense and
if you could ever get a Shen or a Koi like a quality centerman to play in the
third line then you put McMahon and that guy as a duo on the third line and
it's the team looks really pretty good down the middle. Your fourth line could be, you know, Lorenz and Camp and whoever, yard croakers, like
really reliable guys.
And then, you know, you're onto something.
I think you sort of like how that looks.
Yeah.
And this is how, these are all the conversations we're going to have between now and March
7th.
And you know, this road trip, it's amazing how they're streaking right now Johnny like three wins three losses three wins three
losses like they're six and six I believe in the last 12 but I think the
most significant probably footnote of the of this trip is that Stolar's return
last night and played as well as he did and he looked really comfortable he was
tested he was up for it.
What did you see in his game that gives you comfort that they waited long enough, he's ready to go
and how would you handle tomorrow night?
Would you go back to him?
Would you go to Joseph Wall?
What would you do in Vancouver tomorrow?
No, no, no, you gotta go to Wall.
Okay, first off, he was awesome.
And it was funny being around the team
and sort of talking to the coach
and talking to Solars and stuff.
And he's
been cleared physically for 10 days but it's not like oh a wager we could go in rusty not feeling
quite right not being quite sharp and we're not going to hurt our team right like i can get through
a game and not be very good but not be absolutely brutal and cost myself a team and so get it in get
it out couple
One times on the PP punch a guy in the face
Interested yeah, that's it. That's it. That's it
But for him he's like I just don't I'm not seeing it right. I'm not feeling it right even though he was healthy
he's like I don't feel good don't feel confident and
I guess their patience was
Well justified and that he wanted to make sure he was good sharp and he was really really sharp
But I mean the first couple of shots he looked a little a little lost like he the first one hit him
They didn't where it went the second one hit a post but after that
He was locked right in and we showed some clips in the game where he was moving on that knee
explosive hard physical kind of goalt sending and he had no problem. So
brilliant that he's back. Brilliant for him that he's back before the break
because now he doesn't have to think about what I'm gonna be like coming out
of the break. He knows he's good but I don't think there's any way he plays
tomorrow. Like no way at all. It's gonna be Wohl who's played well, he's sharper,
let Solars enjoy his first game back in his body to
recover and we'll get tomorrow and then I think they almost they might go almost
like Boston Bruins style like they might almost rotate this they split them
split the remaining stretch and whoever plays better I guess will be the starter
come playoff time but I would expect them basically to play each half of the
remaining game which is a great luxury for Toronto to have.
Johnny, it looks like Crosby won't play tonight though against the Rangers, the first game that he's gonna miss since
2022. It's been a recurring theme for you to play Jerry's, a little mini Jerry's on the show the last couple of weeks.
What are your Jerry's percentages?
He's gonna be playing for Team Canada next week at the uh... for nations if not
who do you think they tab is replacement
so i'm going to pay me very real quick without knowing how it is doing
uh... i think it is
who are you know i'm not allowed not allowed it's a hard to say that it's a
very little small and i don't approve
okay although fifty one forty nine he does not like
i like it
slightly more likely doesn't play with it and i think any player
was not healthy enough to play their last game
is not helping up when that's right
whether it's quite used or city cross the private in mitch marter or whatever
you can't plan on it
friday or saturday night that you can't play on Friday or Saturday night,
then you can't be in practice Monday.
Unless it's a flu, unless it's like an illness,
unless it's a sickness, not an injury.
And if he, you know, Sid, he's a competitor,
he doesn't want to ever miss games,
he certainly doesn't want to miss this tournament,
he wants to represent Canada,
he wants to play in the Olympics one more time, I'm sure,
he was happy to as a captain.
He's a really important player for that team. So if he doesn't play this weekend then I don't think he plays. Although I saw Kips with him passing the puck. He didn't shoot it but he was
skating and passing it crisply. So I don't know exactly what's going on with him but I'm saying
yeah if he doesn't play then he won't play in the four nations as far as who gets picked to replace him.
Oh, is it Zach Hyman or Mark Scheisley?
Is it one of those two guys?
Probably.
Depending on how John Cooper, how he envisions the lineup.
Like, think about this tournament.
There's only two days of practice
and three games, maybe four.
So there's no time for experimentation.
Cooper has in his mind what the line's gonna look like.
And they're probably gonna look like that most of the
tournament because there's not enough time to fiddle with it.
So would you say Hyman with the built in chemistry
and does that shuffle what you anticipated being your
first line with McDavid?
Or, I mean you can't deny how Mark Shackels played this year.
He's been incredible.
It's absolutely so good. Do you go in that direction? Probably one of those two guys, I guess, would be my hunch.
Yeah, and it would suck for Sid because really, you look at where Pittsburgh is right now, like the rest of the way, you wonder how much he's going to play.
Like, we don't even know what the injury is and we we don't know what the
you know projection is in terms of how much time you could miss
uh... and without knowing all that it's really difficult to compare in contrast
but i do like we have chris pronger on earlier this week
and prongs was
talking about steve eismann in 02 and what he was playing through just to get
ready to play in the olympic games
and i just think if this was the o we'd be like Sid's going. Sid
will find a way to get there you can glue him together but for the four
nations he's not going to do it and it's just what it'll be one more bullet of
like what is this tournament going to be worth in terms of the conversation
afterwards right in terms of legacy building and, right? In terms of legacy building.
And I think it's going to be a fun tournament. I'm curious what it's going to look like. I'm preparing for this to be better than whatever the All-Star weekend was ever going to be.
But generally speaking, when you get to big moments like this and big platforms, like we live in a media world now where everything's about legacy building, everything's about chasing the goat.
Like if Canada wins, what is that worth in your opinion Johnny? Or if the Americans win or whatever? You know for individual players, the best players. What's it worth for McDavid's resume? What's it worth for Matthew's resume?
Does that pop up on the plaque?
Yeah, is it a Hall of Fame? Is it a mention in the Hall of Fame speech?
100% it is.
You think it is?
100% I think it is.
Okay.
Because there's been nothing else available in its place.
It's not like, oh, we won a World Cup.
Yeah, but how do you do the Olympics?
There's been no Olympics, right?
Like, there hasn't been an alternative.
So this is all they got.
And it's best on best in whatever the format, whatever the teams, whoever's in it.
You know, I think it's probably more important for North American players
than winning a world championship.
Right?
Yeah, yeah I would say so.
Fun for Europeans, but for a North American player,
would it be equivalent of like sort of World Junior success?
I mean, something like that?
I don't think it's nothing until we get into a bigger rhythm of World Cups, Olympics, World Cup, Olympics and then I think once we get in
that rhythm and they expand the format which I think they're gonna announce
like next week at the at this tournament when you get to eight teams or whatever
it is then it becomes another thing that the top players want to have
accomplished and want to have won. So yeah, I mean, it's
not the be all end all, we all understand it's a bit quirky, it's a bit new, but I think
once they get like, maybe you guys are too young, I mean it seriously, but like remember
the 96 World Cup, you guys would have been, you know, you know, early teens maybe. And
I don't remember, like I was in college when that happened,
I went to watch like the 87 Canada Cup,
which was like a little all time race,
I went to watch the 91 Canada Cup for what?
Where at Lindaros was like 17 and putting all the sandals
up through the glass at Mabley's Gardens.
I don't remember the 96 World Cup
having the sort of buzz that the Canada Cubs had had.
And yet now in the folklore of hockey, that tournament has been huge for
American hockey, for the American guys who want it, for putting in USA
hockey on a map for Brett Hall and all those guys, the Kajaks and Garret,
that Modeno, that generation, like that turned into a massive moment
historically for those players and the game
i'm, not saying this four nations is going to be like that but
If it plays out the way it could then I think we will be talking about it
And if it plays out the way it might as well
Then we will be like that wasn't what we wanted to be
I think it really will depend on the quality of the game and sort of the emotional commitment of the guys playing in it
If they play like like like it's game seven, then we'll think it's really important if they play like it's not
Then we won't yeah, the players will determine it You know, it's just like the all-star game you want the all-star game the matter
You got to try like you got to put that that effort forth and it's gonna be very easy
To pick up like if they care or not, like we're gonna know that
Dangerous compared to the author game because it's gonna be be very easy to pick up like if they care or not like we're gonna know that immediately. Dangerous though. Dangerous compared to the all-star game because it's gonna be so much better like. Of course it will be. In any capacity
it'll be remotely like the all-star game like a guy won't back check or we won't
block a shot like that's not it at all like they're gonna be fully invested
trying to win when they're out there. I think I think that's likely the case but
it's it's on the
perimeters where like you're going like if you don't block the shot if there's
you know if you don't finish the check if you don't back check like who wants
to be that guy though Brian like embarrass themselves. I don't know man I
hope that doesn't happen I hope that doesn't happen but let's say the third
game of the tournament where both teams are out of it you think they're going
all out in that game?
I don't know.
That might be different.
Might be different.
But I want to know, does Sam Bennett, Sneaky Elbow, Macklechuk in the head?
That's what I'm saying.
Macklechuk, the low log, Barktoff.
Like I'm serious.
Like this is the difference.
Their teammates today and their teammates three days after they're done but in those moments are they willing to put their club allegiances not only like on
the back burner but like at risk like I'm sorry I'm gonna have to take a run at
you in a very physical potentially dirty way because this is what I need to do to
win this game not considering what that might mean well you know well well
Mitch Marner low bridge Austin Matthews?
If that's what it takes to win a game.
I don't, and we chuckle, but what if he did?
And would you be like, yes?
Or would you be like, no?
This is the sort of, this is the dilemma more than anything,
especially when it happens this time of the year
as opposed to in August where there's such a long runway
before the playoffs start, that you can kind of put any impact in this tournament in the back burner
because it won't probably impact the playoffs. Well I think you hit on
something important like referencing the 96 World Cup the reason I don't think it
it means as much up here is because Canada didn't win it you know the
Americans won it so I think. People talk like Canada won that thing they did it
everyone was like ah it was so awesome the hockey was crazy they lost won that thing. They didn't. Everyone was like, ah, it was so awesome. The hockey was crazy.
They lost to the US.
They lost, and that was the great generation
of American players.
And I think if that's gonna be applicable here,
I think what I would take out of your argument
is only the Americans are really gonna use this
as a true accomplishment,
where if they win it it Americans will be loud, hockey
fans in the states will be loud. I think if Canada wins it, it'll be awesome but you better
win the Olympics. You've won a million Canada Cubs, you win the Olympics every single year,
you win, you know, that I do think that is likely the reaction. In the states it's huge.
If Canada wins, it's okay, that's great.
Like, cool tournament, but not going to be something compared to anything else we've
done on the international stage.
But the Americans just don't have the same reference points.
They have the World Cup in 96 and nothing else.
In terms of...
Yeah, well, it's in 80.
Like, what?
I guess 80, you're right.
That one's a very significant one, of course.
But also different context, amateurs, and
we're talking best on best.
Never won a Canada Cup, never won gold at the Olympics.
Yeah, I think you're absolutely right.
The only caveat to that is that the best players in Canada, who are the three best players
in Canada?
McDavid, McKinnon, McCarr.
McDavid, McKinnon, McCarr.
None of them have won anything for Canada before.
I'm best on best.
So for them, I get like society speaking, we're like, yeah, that's good.
We won, we're once again, the best that we knew we were.
Don't worry about those world juniors, whatever.
And, but like the big ones really next year.
But for those players, I do think we're 0-1 against USA when it matters most.
They don't have a track record.
We can claim it as a country, but the players playing this can't tell them anything.
They've been robbed of the opportunity because of all the situations that we know about.
So I do think it will resonate more heavily, positive or negative, for the players involved
because it's their first time for so many of them
all right johnny
enjoy the super bowl on sunday and uh... we'll do it again soon thank you for
those have you made your pick yet hey now we're doing our picks in half an
hour al's brother and i are on the clock in half an hour you got johnny you got a
pattern with you know plus one and a half i think the line play is the
difference
i think one get the done i'd kind of agree i mean he goes myself but
that's not our pet they're gonna be picking the spread on also be picking the
spread out for the night in the total
for two hours a piece very important detail okay i'll see if i'll turn it
back to our care is there
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Super Bowl Four Nations coming up. We had a hole in one on... Wow, Johnny thinks Sid's
playing. It doesn't sound like it. And listen listen something's going on there like if he's not playing
and he's not shooting the puck or anything like he's got a real injury
well it's funny because we had this conversation here in this market with
Matthews and now we've we now that Martin has come back that conversations
gone but it was like if he's not playing like there's no way he's playing for
Canada I wonder if that conversations a little different in Pittsburgh because it's there's not
competitive where it's let Sid do what he's got to do if he's got to get
healthy like if he needs to miss a game to get healthy for Canada for the four
nations like maybe they're more okay with that because they're not going I
think there's validity to that I also you know listen Pittsburgh's probably in
a position where they should be tanking you know, listen, Pittsburgh's probably in a position
where they should be tanking.
You know, it's like maybe keeping Sid out of the lineup
is actually a smart play because they're like,
they're eight points out of the playoffs.
It's over.
Pittsburgh, it's done, it's over.
And it actually may be smart to be like,
stay out of this and actually load management
so you can possibly play for canada
i don't think sits wired that way but
he he may be willing to buy into that as well but i gotta take a night off here
so i can play next week they're closer to the basement of the east and a
wild card spot right now
there are only four points up on buffalo and
and for us always the strap on a row for the server buffalo is yet buffaloes on
fire
and i just don't understand like
i get it he wanted to stay there and try to win one more cup button they're
going to miss again and i count as you say
now let's go get a next year
you're you're gonna be worse next to that's the whole thing they're getting
worse every single year yeah like every year't want to see him go down like that
It'll be just dreadful
Jump on the bandwagon, dude. I said this last November or whatever
I was like get him out like get him out and
It's science, but it's get him out as soon as they started losing in the first round
Yeah, like they won back-to-back cups and then they got pumped in the first round a couple times.
That's same thing in Chicago, same thing in Pitt.
That's when the dream's over, man.
Yeah absolutely.
Unless you can incorporate some kind of Dallas where they have younger players that are coming
up and Crosby and Malkin and LaTang are like secondary guys.
But they don't have that.
Washington's kind of rebuilt on the fly a little bit and uh... like they
know i mean go but it's not that they just had guys come i mean they did have
i guess dylan strom is a nice pick up a couple years ago that's flourishing but
that i like to protest kid carmen michaels played really well but they
also went inside and trade for the right guys
i think i wanted to get more correct a record record score of options been unbelievable and
that for them charlie lindgren they brought in a year ago a managerial work
great coaching work dot story like that's all around great
executive work in behind the bench with those guys who are kyle's got in a
that was not on that
it's it's not going to be easy man
is not going to be seen all the notes it's it's call
he resigned for no move, no trade,
nothing's gonna happen until he decides
I don't wanna do this anymore,
and who knows if he ever will.
We have a hole in one at the waste management on 16.
16.
Dunked.
Well we gotta try to play that if we can,
and we'll track what's going on out there.
And again, get to our picks with Luke
in about a half an hour
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Talking about the intensity of the upcoming Four Nations, there was a documentary on one
of the dream teams with Kobe and LeBron and he was like, he was like, did first play the
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have a list for us momentarily we do have a hole-in-one at 16 at the waste
management Emiliano Grillo where they dunk and a great reaction too right like any home and
one on tour is always gonna be a great reaction but this guy goes nuts it's
always a little bit awkward like the playing partner is he into it is he
willing to go crazy with you but it did happen they both did the the hug in the
air the caddies are going nuts the the weather's beautiful just looks amazing
it's great dude there's only one hole in one that will top anyone that ever happens on that hole.
Where's that?
Tiger Woods at that hole.
Oh yeah.
Right when he first started out on tour, he played this event and he hits the ball and
the announcer goes, if he makes this, this place is going to go nuts.
And he makes it and they were throwing toilet paper like
he was right Tiger Woods was raising the roof it was insane. It was amazing. Did he win
that tournament? Was that his first win on tour? No his first win on tour was in Milwaukee.
No sorry his first win his first start was in Milwaukee. I think his first win might
have been in vegas
yeah i don't remember i i remember that horn one i was a famous one in ninety
six i guess and i was early in his career yeah and i think they didn't even
have the stadium set up like they do now
but i don't know that's what i don't understand like tiger never plays can he
not just sneak out to the waste management in my crank that tournament
way up by playing
one time?
Well, he's playing next week, right?
He committed to the Genesis.
It is his tournament.
He does host it, but he is playing.
He'll be playing, and it's an elevated event.
No cut, I don't think.
Or does Tiger put his top 70 make it, and there's like 10 guys that will get cut?
Are we done?
That'll be interesting, because he's always hated the no cuts. Right right and it's torrey pines those always love that course are we done
hyping it like maybe can make a comeback like me
or is that going to be
i don't conversation next week i think he's he deserves the respect of the
attention and the hype of him playing
but expect like look at who is going up against like shephers on fire today's
back in the honeunies t8 dude
He's tiger woods man. Yeah
He was looking like he was gonna miss the cut and ended up the round yesterday minus two only I
Swear, he's the only guy in the world that could have pulled a minus two out of that
Yeah, did he go that out of the bunker yesterday?
I think it was coming down the drill that home from the bunker and then on 15 which is a
I think it was coming down the stretch. He drilled it home from the bunker and then on 15, which is a jargantuan hole for mere
mortals, he had driver four iron to 10 feet and drills an eagle.
It's like that he's one under and then he clips away one more and it's like, that's
just how good he is, man.
Anyone else?
Well, the guy he played with did it.
Max Holme finished up five over.
That's right.
Holme is in a bad place right now.
Shoot, he is.
Bad place.
But there's a lot of Canadian flags up there too Adam
Hadwin's eight under he had a great day
today Nick Taylor's t20 at five under on
the tournament he's four under today
Adam Svensson seven under and I think
he's through his rounds so there's a lot
of Canadian content down there it's gonna
be a great great weekend to see what
happens and yes Scottie Shepard's out
there doing his thing. All right we'll
come back else brother you have a power ranking of the seven
Canadian teams based on who you think can win the Stanley Cup. Yes most to
least likely to win the Stanley Cup this season. I love it. So this is not who's
playing the best as of today, this is a projection for who can win the Stanley
Cup. We're going to
come back and Al's brother's going old school. We haven't done this in quite some time. And Al's
brother, Canadian team power ranking. We'll get to that. Luke's coming up. Pick's coming up in 20
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a pair of tickets to see leaf sharks March third where have you been all week
else brother I was down at st. Lawrence market St. Lawrence market I don't think
I've ever been there no good spot it's good sign to one I'm not like my wife's
a downtown person
I've been to Kensington Market. Yeah, never st. Lawrence market. You gotta get there man. It's the one of the coolest places Oh, yeah. Yeah and like as someone who appreciates a good board or two you can get yourself set up there
They have tons of the best. He's is olives the best
Show we did down there that one time if you consider that to be the st
Lawrence market then I have been there but that's the did we do a show at st. Lawrence market one
When did we do that dude? It was a long time ago, man
We did a show down there. I don't know inside that big building. Yeah, they got those female bacon
So I got great like chicken parm's down there. They got great sandwiches. It's a phenomenal
spot. Phenomenal. You can't you got to get down there. Al's brother, you're taking a
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Seven Canadian teams. How are we ranking these based on who can win the Stanley
Cup yeah all right take us I guess from seven down to one okay brother take it
away we'll start off obviously I think it makes a lot of sense for the Montreal
Canadians to come in at number seven I mean they had their nice little run
around Christmas time good story line they came back he was scoring all the
time that since dried up really ever since the 7-3 drop into Toronto it's gone downhill from there there three and
seven cents they're allowing 4.1 goals per game it's not a good situation now
and they're gonna start moving some pieces they got no shower they're not
wearing no no no shot to win a sign like a over next on my list I have the
Calgary Flames coming in at number six and
they've been a good story. The fact that they're in a playoff race kind of
surprised me compared to what I thought they were going to be. But ultimately I
still don't see them as a team that's ready to compete for a Stanley Cup that
might sneak into a playoff spot. I like the moves they made last week, Brigadon
Frost and Farah B adding a little bit more depth to their team but ultimately
i'm just not sold that they're going to be able to compete with that bag is is a
colorado arguments here calgary at six who do you have a five the ottawa
senator
coming on a lot of number five you know i i i'm offended by that
offended you believe the ottawa senators can win a stanley company
that uh... i'd just think they're in a positive cycle right now in your
action like taking a massive skydump on it
and i don't appreciate lenis all marker favoritism back in feeling pretty good
great looks like that's the problem i think in ottawa is they rely way too
much on goaltending when they don't get it they don't win any games well
there's a lot of teams are-fifth in the league in
scoring a five on five
thirty-fifth in the nhs right now it's not a good recipe for success alright
you got a lot of five and i really have
who do you have it for tells you before the vancouver canada coming in at number
you have them ahead of all the water to surprise and considering how
like tumultuous their season has been. But they moved on from the situation, right? JT Miller's gone. I think you could get addition
by subtraction. Hopefully you get Elias Pedersen back into the fold. I think the team that's
been underachievement, they made it to the second round, took Edmonton to seven games
last year with Archer's Shelovs as their goaltenders.
Well, have you told Demko that he's supposed to be playing better recently? Has Elias Petitkin actually got the message? I'm glad you
asked about Thatcher Demko. He's figured something out the last couple weeks.
Last four games, 9.52 save percentage in a shutout in his last four games. He's
starting to come alive. They won 2-1 last night I think in overtime. 2-1 last night against the Sharks.
That's a big reason for why I believe they have a chance to at least be
contenders. I don't think they're necessarily in cup contention, but I think that they'll
be contenders. Vancouver at four, who do you have at three? This is where it gets spicy.
This is where it gets spicy, but I've got the Toronto Maple Leafs coming in at number
three. I think the Leafs come in at number three, and it may be one of those, I got to
see it to believe it, but look, this team hasn't had playoff success. So how can I sit here and say, yep,
this is going to be the year they do it. The Goaltending has been great. Stowellers came
back last night, picked up right where he left off. Joseph Walls played well. The defense
is much better. I think when you look at the team right now on February, I would say the
seventh, this may be one of the best Leafs teams we've had at this point we'll see what happens at the deadline but I got them at number
three right now because the two I just have more belief okay so let's get to
number two then who do you have Winnipeg or Edmonton the Winnipeg Jets I got a
number two best in the league this year at number two best team in the league
but similar to Toronto they fade in the playoffs yes they do fade in the
playoffs i mean
you look at it
carter helbert's been arguably the best colt under on the planet the last two
three years
but they get to the playoffs is last two seasons to innate with an eight seventy
five c percentage
i'd just i need to see it to believe it every year we buy in
when it takes got the roster top the bottom and they flame out in the playoffs
so they don't deserve much more many more props than the Leafs. No they're no different than the Leafs.
There's a Western Leafs. No different than the Leafs. Which leaves Connor McDavid's Edmonds and
Oilers up in the top spot and I truly believe there's a team that was one game
away from one of you Stanley Cup a year ago that little taste they got in their
mouth I think that is going to become more rabid and rabid as we get closer to April. Those two, Leon, Connor, they're
going to absolutely go beast mode come playoff time. I think they're going to get back to
a Stanley Cup. And just like Sid did years ago when he lost in his first cup final, came
back the next year, figured out this is what didn't work
this what we have to do
went ahead
won the following so you're saying that i wanted to tell the club that's your
call right now okay
yeah i can argue that meant to be a one
the spread the wealthy look at the middle the ice it's mcdavid dry settle
nugent hopkins henry
why is there one flight of four
and you know defensively darn all nurses has been better this year there's always
question marks about Skinner always going to be but I think that's reasonable I'm you know I might
put Ottawa ahead of Vancouver just because it feels like there's dark clouds in Vancouver right
now but other than that I think he probably hit it Al's brother good list all right there it is
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