OverDrive - OverDrive - January 10, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys dive into the Maple Leafs' defeat against Carolina, Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner's performance in the matchup an...d Brad Marchand and David Pastrnak denying a rumoured rift on the team. They also dive into the Maple Leafs and Canucks matchup and Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen's MVP choices in the NFL.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker and up on TSN 4, Brian Hazy, O-Dog Jeff O'Neil, Jamie Noodles, McClennan, what an afternoon we have for you today. Wow, wow, wow, and Hazy, I'm expecting big things from you, do you know why? Why's that? I had lunch today and I wasn't really up for chit chats, just one of those things, you know. Go to Farm Boy, sitting along a railing, looking out, just trying to gather my thoughts. This guy sits down beside me and goes, are you the guy with the goalie with Hazy B? I go, what? He goes, are you
Starting point is 00:01:39 the guy with the goalie in Hazy B? I said, if you're talking about my job, yes, I'm the guy with the goalie and hazy B. I said, if you're talking about my job, yes, I'm the guy with the goalie with hazy B. The goalie and hazy B. I've made it, man. The guy, the goalie, and hazy B. I'm fully ready to wrap it up and like, straightforward, this is not continuing. He throws this one at me, he goes, I think Hazy B's a genius.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I just said, oh my god, dude. I need to find this individual. Now he's got my attention. I need to find this man. I will pay big money. He throws, I think Hazy B's a genius at me. So I look at him and I go, what do you mean by that? So now I want to find out what the hell this guy's talking about. I go, what do you mean by that? So now I want to find out what the hell this guy's talking about.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I go, what do you mean he's a genius? I go, we talk about sports every day. He goes, well you and the goalie only talk about hockey. He knows every sport, NBA, MLB, football. That's when I just packed it up and I said I'm out, bud. Well, listen, I'm not sure I want that kind of responsibility. Like genius, exactly. I don't need that type of labeling, please
Starting point is 00:02:45 I want nothing to do with it. I'm curious which You which label you think is more disparaging or more insulting Being known as the guy or the goalie. Yeah, which one I think they're both I think he was just a hey super fan and we were just a couple of, I'm the guy, I'm you. And he, J Noodles is the goalie. Just a goalie that happened to play at some point. Yeah. Okay, I'll take it.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Anyway, so I'm expecting big things from you because... Hey, listen. You know what? It's funny because today we're going to have to put you guys inside a locker room, a hockey room today, right? And consider what's going on down in Boston and all the reports coming out of there and how bright blue the n.h.l. has turned into days of our lives it's it is a bit actually it is great for the sport
Starting point is 00:03:35 it would be bad for the teams and it's awful for the teams but like look at the players involved in all of these controversies it's the best of the past on the island of the island was the s though i really do i think the boston one is a garbage but i think it's a guy i would like to hear and i don't know if you've done our to decide his source okay well that's who do you know what i want to hear what the guy from boston had to say do we have that yet okay do you want to ask a date do you want to get us okay as a side of the year we'll get to the leap because believe you know
Starting point is 00:04:07 who's the happiest the happiest line on earth that we're gonna start somewhere else is Matthews modernize I did I didn't pay attention I'm sorry I know they lost and you have one-offs and whatever I didn't see the plus-minus until later I did the first thing I thought about was Struddy. Didn't Struddy have a minus five in New York? Struddy had a minus five one night? Yeah, because that bastard Tom Gilbert, he said. Tom Gilbert greased him a few times.
Starting point is 00:04:33 Yeah. But when they're digging up a line from a team that doesn't exist anymore, you know you had yourself a bad night. That line would have been Danny Heatley, Ilya Kovalchuk, and Patrick Steffen back in the early 2000s, the last time you had three line mates, minus 17 or worse. That's what Matthews Marner and Nyes were last night. You throw in Morgan Rielly, he was a dash three. Collectively, the four of them were minus 20. And obviously, Tanav too, you throw the top pairing
Starting point is 00:05:03 in there collectively, minus 22. It was horrendous. That line was were they were out to lunch last night. It was awful We will get to that, but I agree I think it's more time-sensitive what's going on here with the Bruins because they lost again last night They lost to Tampa for one. They've lost six in a row They've already fired the coach right Jim Montgomery's moved on and Joe Sacco's in there now And they got their coach bump with Sacco and's moved on and Joe Sacco's in there now. And they got their coach bump with Sacco and now they're right back to being a rotten team.
Starting point is 00:05:29 That's what it looks like. Yeah, they're not playing well, yeah. Couldn't score. They've really got nothing going for them right now. And why don't we begin with a clip of the radio host on, I think it was WEI down in Boston, a guy by the name of Rich Keefe. And he is i guess doubling down like i checked his twitter account ten minutes ago and he's
Starting point is 00:05:50 kinda being sarcastic about it but i do their lunatics down there and we say some stupid stuff on this show these these dudes down there date they'd they go for it i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i I don't know what the hell they're talking about. I think guys like that though, they're not connected. That's the thing. He's not connected to the room. Well, we'll find out now. But new to us. We'll find out. Just a small point. One of them blurted out, I heard Monty's gone and Joe Sacco's in.
Starting point is 00:06:15 And I was like, wow, that guy's, what the hell is he talking about? He's just a radio guy and boss. Sure enough, an hour later, Monty was gone and Sacco was in. Anyway, let's hear what this guy had to say. Alright, so let's begin. This is what he had to say about what he's hearing about what's going wrong with the Boston Bruins right now. First of all, what we can all see is that they're a mess on the ice, right?
Starting point is 00:06:36 They've lost six in a row, but what I'm hearing is they're also a mess off the ice. Apparently, the locker room is a disaster, and David Posternok is at the center of that. David Posternok has told the team he doesn't want to be on a line with Brad Marchand and it may stem from Brad Marchand calling out Posternok for some of his play throughout the year. So Posternok maybe your best player, 60 goal score, all that stuff. Also the main reason why it is a disaster inside the locker room. They won't play on a line together.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Poshernuk does not want to play with Marshan, and they're not playing together. Oh no. So, let me just tell you one thing about that. Let me just tell you one thing about that. I don't know if that guy, I don't know that guy from a hole in the wall. And I don't know if he's full of it,
Starting point is 00:07:21 or he's just trying to get clicks, or what he's doing. But I'm not kidding, that sounds like somebody inside that locker room told him that. And I don't know if he's full of it or he's just trying to get clicks or what he's doing. But I'm not kidding. That sounds like somebody inside that locker room told him that. Because why else would he say it? Like would he risk his career just to put that out? It might be completely false and it might be a joke, but it sounds like he has intimate knowledge and that's why he went with that scoop.
Starting point is 00:07:43 I don't know if it's true, but that's what it sounded like. I think it's plausible, possible. Marchand called him out and said, you got to play better. That happens all the time. But for him to say, I don't want to play with that guy because he's hurt my feelings type of thing, I'm paraphrasing, that's where the BS starts. And to me, I think this guy, whether he's connected or not, that's where the line is like, there's no chance that passion acts like, I don't want to play with that guy because he yelled at me. I know, but noodles with what's going on in Vancouver.
Starting point is 00:08:14 That's the stupidest thing I've heard. No, that's a different thing. I'm not trying to say that this guy's right, but what's going on in Vancouver, the pettiness out there, does it seem impossible that a guy would think that or do that? You know what I mean? I agree. I just think there's, what we're seeing this year more than ever is like people in the media just shooting from the hip.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Like Larry Brooks going, like somebody gave it to him, right? Larry Brooks going, what was his thing? I can't remember. Yeah, but his thing was that the Rangers, their plan is to get Brady Kachuk. Right. Which, like those things are, remember that? There are some things, like some wild speculation things coming out, but the one common denominator is, and this is where it's easy to do, the teams are a mess.
Starting point is 00:09:03 So when teams are a mess, people on the outside are always looking for, well, it's because of this, it's because of that. So we're not privy to the information behind the scenes. That's the one common denominator. In New York, it was a mess, so Truba had to go, they're targeting Brady Kachak, they're doing all these things. You know, in Vancouver, J.T. Miller takes a leave of absence. That that's a fact. There's nothing like he left the team for personal reasons. We were not privy to that. You've got injuries, but all this stuff's coming out.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Now, Boston's lost six in a row. They've been a mess this year. Well, it's got to be Pasternak and Marchand. And what I'm hearing, like maybe this guy's dialed in. Maybe he is. We should afford him that. But maybe he's full of BS, too. And he's like, this is what Larry from the guy at the bar seat on the corner tells him.
Starting point is 00:09:51 That's what I don't understand. The guy with a platform like that, would he really go that far off the deep end and kind of risk his own reputation to come out with that nonsense? That's a pretty crazy move if he does. What we just heard did not sound like a guy that was being sarcastic or tongue-in-cheek. You know, this wasn't like a bit, hey, we're going to... And again, I don't know this guy, I don't know the show, but these are the two primary players on the Bruins. I mean, these are bit players. And what I mean by that is if you're going to say what he said which is an
Starting point is 00:10:26 Explosive report like that's explosive Report right we're talking Brad Marsh and the longest-standing Captain of the team and David pastin act the best player highest-paid player There's no way He was of the belief I'm talking about the host here because I could put myself in his chair there's no way he was of the belief of talking about the host here cuz i could put myself in his chair thinking he could say that it would just disappear
Starting point is 00:10:48 and furthermore there this is the thing about social media this is why i think the bruins decided to come out and talk about it we're gonna play them played in a middle play pasta next comments will play marchands comments is because with social media now you can't expect anything to just disappear everything brings on a life of its own, everything goes viral now and the Jones and Keefe Twitter account which is the name of the show, they tweeted this clip out and it says scoop from Keefe. Like they are
Starting point is 00:11:15 promoting it. Hey, this is what I'm hearing. This is what I believe has happened here. So I based on my knowledge because of what I just heard, what I saw and I have the same access the three of us do, all of us do, I don't get the impression that guy just made it up. It doesn't mean it's accurate, that's different. But he heard it from somebody. Someone's told him, and this is the danger of if you're not a true reporter, and I don't know this guy's background, but there's a difference between on the ground journalism reporter and entertainer
Starting point is 00:11:47 slash columnist slash opinionist, et cetera, which I'll put myself in this. I'm a part of the latter. I'm not a journalist on the ground reporting, but I also realized that when you're in front of a mic and you say something so explosive, you better be able to back it up. Now this guy's going to have to step up step up now he's not gonna tell a source just like larry brooks didn't that's also journalism whether he's gonna abide by the rules are not this guy doesn't have
Starting point is 00:12:12 to say anything about where he heard it from he might i doubt he will be might but i'm curious to see where this guy takes it from here because if he keeps doubling and tripling down that's always got a prying doubling and tripling down or apologizing, saying my source was wrong and I got screwed, I apologize. The thing is though, there is no accountability.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Like you said, risk his career. He's going on the radio the next day. He's not getting fired for misinformation. You know how many people are gonna be listening to his show tomorrow? Well, that's the thing, it is. I don't think, the one thing, and it's been proven, there's no accountability in misinformation and Twitter
Starting point is 00:12:51 and stuff. There's no. But this isn't some random guy on Twitter, though, Noodle. I understand. It's a flagship show in Boston. But how many times have we seen either our company or other companies or whatever, people misspeak? They don't, you know, like in a situation or say something and it doesn't happen to
Starting point is 00:13:13 be right or it's what they believe they heard or whatever. Like there's no accountability. He's just going to say, and Brad Marchand is going to, they're going to ice him out, which is, hey, they're right to do that. But there are things like I just don't think I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, because I would 100% agree that I guarantee you Brad Marsh and or the leadership group has probably called each other out in a in a losing streak. That happens all the time. Hey, I need we saw it on the Maple Leafs, was that in the playoffs where Willie told Yeah, Mitch on the bench, Austin on the bench.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You know, that happened to be in that special or whatever. That happens all the time. Where I have a, where I struggle with is where pastor Nat goes, I don't want that guy on my line. Well, I find that hard to believe as well. I mean, I think that's where think they lose me what I want to hear is now Joe Sacco's got to come out now He did media and I watched it I didn't see him address this which I was a bit curious about because Pasternak did and Marchand I may have missed it And if I did guys, let's try to look and find that right the next one is Sacco's got to come out and Sacco's got to say definitively this did not happen Davidid pastin act never at any point
Starting point is 00:14:26 because if he if he's not going to do that then people are gonna say okay what's going on because you know past that commercial come out and defend what if he's what if saco just says you know what i'm not i'm not answering ludicrous uh... us the accusations on the i'm not dealing with which maybe justified to because it gets to a point where you can't answer to everything.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Yes. You know, you can't, because then it's, then you're opening the door to a million different things. What about this? What about that? Some guy just tweeted. Larube's not addressing Joe from the Bridge tweets at 12 midnight. No, exactly. Exactly. And that's, but it is, it is interesting that they felt like they had to address it here. And I think I would connect that to what's happening in Vancouver because no one was talking about that publicly while it was festering and then it blew up out of control and they
Starting point is 00:15:15 lost control of the narrative to the point now where everyone's like, all right, Miller and Pedersen can't get along. Now it's like you don't even have to report on it because no one's willing to really say anything about it because you know we all believe whatever we're going to believe at this point but here's david pastana coming off the ice at practice here here's what he had to say about the the radio hit early this morning in boston
Starting point is 00:15:38 it all for a charity for practice out there honestly i've been laughing for a little bit. I thought he was making fun of me. Then he actually said it was true. So, yeah, I don't make much of it. I know how I feel about Marci.
Starting point is 00:15:58 We love each other. I have a huge amount of respect for him. So we had a good laugh about it. It's 100% false. If they said that you refused to play on the line with him, which is... Yeah, I've never said that in my hockey career that I don't want to play with this guy to coaching stuff or management and I would never do that. That's like, I love playing with Marca, I've been playing with him for so long so
Starting point is 00:16:27 I can't imagine going to coach and saying, hey I don't want to play with this guy. Yeah, so, you know, and that seems pretty honest, you know, again, we're reading the tea leaves here but he's not overly emotional, he's kind of laughing it off and you guys have been in the room, it does seem very far-fetched that a guy would walk in and say, I'm not playing with my best friend in the cap. That's where they lost me on that. That's where they lost me. The other stuff, I 100% do think it's believable because I've been in rooms where star players
Starting point is 00:16:59 have fought and disagreed and argued and said, you need to be there. You need to play better. You can't turn that puck over. That's the art of competitive sports. And especially with where they're at, where they were, and then they had a little streak after the coach bump and then now that six in a row, tensions are going to run high. People are looking for answers. I don't disagree that the temperature level has been massive in that dressing room. I find where it went too far for me, maybe I'm going to be wrong, but it's a player
Starting point is 00:17:33 going I'm not going to play with that guy. I've never really heard of it, Jamie. Maybe Mario or Wayne back in the day would have the power to go in and say I'm not playing with that guy, period, or there's going to be serious problems. Everyone talks about the old school kind of code in the NHL and part of the code is no matter who you are, and I've played with some great players. I've played with Ron Francis and Matt Sundeen. I don't ever recall them wanting or would even think about going in and saying I'm not
Starting point is 00:18:00 playing with that guy. It's like you show up and your jersey's hanging in the stall and that's the what line you're on that day. And let's not forget there is communication lines between players and coaches. So if there is chemistry issues, like I could make a logical response for this too. Brad Marchand hasn't played well either. He looks his age. So maybe there is a scenario where David Sacco goes, I can't play Marchand and Pasternak. They're together. They're not playing well enough Marchand can't keep up with the pace right now, whatever some scenario But I don't believe that's David Pasternak looking at Sacco and going get that guy off my line because I'm not producing because of him
Starting point is 00:18:42 I think there are scenarios that when you look at individual play, but I just, that's where they lost me. Everything else I do think is believable. Well listen, the sharks are circling, right? You've lost six in a row, again you fired your coach, it was a tumultuous offseason in Boston. It's a market that always has high expectations and they're straddling the playoff line. There's no guarantee they're going to get there and they've had some they've gotten beaten up
Starting point is 00:19:06 you know a lot recently and Yes, they're again. I don't know what kind of access this guy has to the room that that's another thing about pro sports and kind of the Two sides of the coin here is that the room is so sacred and everything stays in there so what you're gonna get occasionally is some speculation or some misinterpretation of news or what have you and you know I you guys have said it before others have said it before there are times where you have conversations with your coach about who you fit with at that point who you're playing better with that may have
Starting point is 00:19:37 happened you know where it was yes when you're on the top line you get called in and yeah when I played with Ron it was called in the Paul Maurice's office and and he'd be like we got to find a mix that works here who do you want on your left wing? And that's different from I don't want this guy and I can't back with him. You know what I wanted to tweet under? Yes. Do you know what I wanted to tweet under at Hays? I really wanted to tweet this under one of these Bruin things today.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I wanted to tweet that's why nobody wants to play in Boston. Because you know how many damn times in this market where there's just a gong show, whether it be Phil Kessel grabbing hot dogs, or this nonsense, or that nonsense, and somebody will just send out a little tweet, that's why nobody wants to play in Toronto. I was this close to just writing under one of them. That's why nobody wants to play in Toronto. Yeah. I was this close to just writing under one of them. That's why nobody wants to play in Boston.
Starting point is 00:20:29 It's amazing how quiet it is up here. Oh yeah. Yeah, it's great up here in Toronto. They've had a lot of success though. You know what? Now they're living through a gong show. So not that I'm happy to see it, but it's like, why don't you guys chew on this one for a little bit?
Starting point is 00:20:44 Because there'll be people from Bayh's loves taking a shot at Toronto. Joe Haggerty, man, if there was a gong show here, it'd be like, total Toronto move, blah, blah, blah. He loves it. No, you're right. You're right. But that's the thing. This is their cycle, and their cycle is down right now.
Starting point is 00:21:02 And I don't know if they'll dig out. I think they're a good enough team to be on that playoff line. But their top players, it comes back to it every night, guys. It's top players that drag you out. And if your top players aren't delivering, that's what it is. You're in trouble. You're in trouble. Listen, Brad Marchand, too, is a relatively new captain.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Like Bergeron's not around anymore. Charo's been gone for a long time, and I think he always equates himself very well with the media. He handles the media brilliantly. He's always got something to say, and he is the definition of a player that you love on your team and hate
Starting point is 00:21:37 when he's not on your team. But you can't completely hate him because there's a party that understands you just die for him to be a Leaf, or a Hab leaf or a hab or a cent or whatever it was going to be, whatever your favorite team is. And why don't we play this? It's long, but you don't get this every day.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Where he was asked about it too, and they were set up for it. I do think it's important to point that out, that again, social media was starting to blow up that factors this, factors into this, right? A quote like this or a report like this that is very explosive. Like I don't think you can downplay the idea that there's a report here that pastor neck is a basically saying is a poison in the room is causing the problems and has stormed in and said I'm not playing with Brad Marchand anymore. That is a massive massive report.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And Marchand being the longest standing player captain of the team and really the the face and voice of the team being directly involved in the report makes it even heavier and uh... here's here's how he addressed the radio host down in boston a little bit earlier this afternoon it's unfortunate i don't have a job to do and uh... you know that job is a report on the team and usually you try to be fact based.
Starting point is 00:22:50 But when there's just blatant lies told in the media, that's where there's a problem. And the fact that this guy has a platform and he's just making stuff up is embarrassing. And there's zero truth to anything that he said on the radio this is how you lose a job very the fact that he's gonna have a job after this is insane because pasta and I are best friends we've had an incredibly close relationship for a long time the only reason we'll play together is so that we can spread depth throughout the lineup there's zero truth to him being a problem in the room. He's one of the most loved
Starting point is 00:23:26 guys in the room. There's zero issues in the room at all and the fact that he they say that he's in the center of anything is a completely fabricated lie. So this guy has zero merit to anything he's saying. It's very frustrating because this is what happens obviously we have not pulled our weight this year We have not had the season that we've wanted to have but I'm not gonna let some random guy come in the media and just spit absolute nonsense and So I mean from this point forward this guy has zero credibility the fact that he's coming over this is
Starting point is 00:24:06 ridiculous it's embarrassing and you know it just anything that he puts forward in the future is is is now not going to be deemed as truth because he's completely just making all of this up and you know it's unfortunate if he would have done some kind of fact he probably just made this up if not if you didn't if you would have fact-checked you would have found out that it's all nonsense But yeah, it there's zero truth to this It's ridiculous That now that we even have to address it. I wasn't gonna address it wasn't gonna talk about it, but I'm not gonna let it become something that it's not so this guy can go pout sand
Starting point is 00:24:47 Go back to the closet where no one knew where he was before and report on nothing because that's what he's going to do in the after this. Just a quick follow up to that stuff he said all the time on social media and Twitter media. Why was it important for you to cover this? Yeah, I don't care about what people say on social media. That's their opinion. But for him to go on the media and speak about it as it's fact and as it's truth, and to have a conversation about this, and the problem is that it reaches a lot of people on the radio station that it was on or wherever it was put out.
Starting point is 00:25:17 And it's not going to become a story because it's not what's going on. And if there are issues that need to be dealt with, we would'll deal with them internally but that's not the case in this situation. Yeah there's things that we need to fix and there's things that we need to improve more for it but that's not one of them. When you become aware of something like that you go to David and say hey this is... Yeah we laughed about it we had a really good laugh about it you know we were making fun of each other all day on the ice. You know he even came with me after practice. We were playing keep away drill. He said you came after my pocket and then you realized that there's a story out there so you turn away
Starting point is 00:25:52 and point the other way. You know so again we have a phenomenal relationship. Our wives and our kids have great relationships so you know we have no issues laughing about that and that's what makes it a day. So, you know, we have no issues laughing about that. And I wouldn't say that. Oh, man. You don't see that every day in pro sports. And what I again, I find interesting is that he seems very relaxed in saying that, like not yelling and screaming or frothing out the mouth. He just he's trying to bury it and bury it quick.
Starting point is 00:26:22 So what does your private investigators tell you about being very calm in that instance? What's your instinct? Yeah, what's your instinct? My instinct is that the team is... Oh yeah, genius. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I'll give you my genius take on this. My genius take is that this radio host, he heard it from someone.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Who the hell that is, I have no idea. Only he would know. And instead of probably corroborating it, or obviously he likely didn't, because I don't think he went to these two players involved, or the coach, or the management, he got rolling on the radio like you're prone to do. And he said, I'm going with it.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And it got out. It sounded good. And it got a reaction. And now it's blown up. And now he's going to have to figure out how he's going to back that up. I don't know how the radio station's going to react to it, or what's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:27:04 But you said he's doubled and tripled down on it.'t know how the radio station is going to react to it or what's going to happen in the future. You said he's doubled and tripled down on it. He did on Twitter. What does that sound like on Twitter? Is he just saying, you can rip me all you want, I know this is factual? Yes, and listen, there have been examples of that. I'm not saying that's what's happened here, but a couple weeks ago, this is a different
Starting point is 00:27:18 context, different scenario, Shams Sherania reported Jimmy Butler wanted out of Miami. And then Jimmy's agent jumped on twitter and started carving them saying you're making it up that's a joke that's garbage and jams obviously kept doubling and tripling down and jams was right in the end i think probably what happened here was the bruins are a mess and they are things probably are not going well around this team and if it probably got out that
Starting point is 00:27:45 you know maybe there was something that happened between past and i can march and doesn't mean that they didn't immediately get over it but there probably was some sort of issue you know i think that you're probably not happy with each other in terms of whether plan and they probably look at each other realize it's on us to get this team out of the ditch yet and whenever you have a team that's in turmoil like
Starting point is 00:28:05 the Bruins are right now like the Rangers like it times the Vancouver Canucks you can go down the list you're you're gonna get people that are gonna kick away at it and yeah but this is side-shop stuff and for everybody involved and this is not just the first time they've had to deal with this because Donnie Sweeney went nuts at the beginning of the year for business reporting about Swainman's contract reporting stuff that he didn't think was factual. Or I don't know how it went, but he was just like, I'm sick and tired of these reports coming out of things not being true. So this is, and now it's been a gong show season there, man. Yeah, it has.
Starting point is 00:28:40 This is what, this is the guy. So this is the guy, Rich Keefe. Yeah. So he tweets out, now I got Marchand calling for my job. No one acts this way if the story is really false. Thanks for the confirmation So that's I guess that's his response to Responding yeah, but that's you guys remember when as in cadre like Bobby Mackenzie was reporting on NASS Contract or something and NAS had the tweet he tweeted out false false Bobo false Bobo yeah Bobby wrote underneath it he's like I'm
Starting point is 00:29:11 quite confident in my information nas thanks yeah well it's all about who was right in that though that that's the thing like there you know Bob may have gotten a pretty good source but nasa may have shut that deal down or whatever like it will bob i think i have to write the rule as he doesn't report anything unless he's a hundred percent certain it's true right he lives by that yeah and listen there are different reports that if they are wrong they're not harmful
Starting point is 00:29:40 you know what that's that's that the difference you're talking about earlier noodles there's no accountability that doesn't have to be forever that's the difference you were talking about earlier, Noodle, there's no accountability. There doesn't have to be forever. That's not the way reporting works. Yeah, like that's- You know, you got to chip away at stories. You're not going to get the full truth all the time. You just got to, you know, you're putting a puzzle together.
Starting point is 00:29:54 But what's different about this is the parties involved and it paints a picture of a character issue and turmoil in the room and the longest standing most important players having an issue with each other. That's explosive for the whole organization. The fourth line feels that. The goalies feel that. Management, the trainers, everyone's got to respond to it because you know it's going to blow up.
Starting point is 00:30:19 And you guys can probably speak to this. If you're in the room and you're on that team, you know guys are driving home and their dads are calling them, their friends are calling them, saying, what the hell is going on in Boston? Like, what's going on with these two guys? But then that's the thing. They know the truth. That's the scary part.
Starting point is 00:30:34 The guy's in the room and if they're going, man, this is a joke, and the guy, like, what I didn't like is Marchand saying this guy shouldn't have a job. Like, you don't lose your job for for making a story up or reporting what you heard. There's there's a million insiders outside of the real credible ones that wouldn't have a job on blogs or on some some other reputable papers. But the bottom line is like Marchand's just pissed at that going like this guy has no credibility. That's a fair statement that like, like, this guy has no credibility.
Starting point is 00:31:05 That's a fair statement. Like, your credibility is shot because that's not what's happened. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. That's the thing. It's difficult to answer because we're not in a Bruins room. You know what I mean? Like, it's a report where it makes you raise an eyebrow because you're like, man, things are really ugly there.
Starting point is 00:31:22 You know, and what do you always say? Oh, like, it kind kinda smells like something's wrong and that like there's someone that doesn't like somebody you know i was like there's something wrong there my old man yeses exactly and and that's again i i'd i think you're probably right noodles it's probably something in the middle i'd i'd doubt that you have every single detail but you know i i would it i would expect the players to come out guns blazing the way
Starting point is 00:31:44 they did and now we're losing the way they are the Boston Bruins a proud organization who have been just a You know a real solid old standard Standard in the division and when this is going on you expect people to be pissed off But I don't know well just seen and this is the thing if you're again you bring Toronto back into this They still might back door into the playoffs and at least might play them in the first round You better take advantage of this like you you better be willing to bury them, you know if they're available to you All right. We'll get into the leaf lost last night in Carolina and speaking of circuses
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Starting point is 00:33:49 weekday mornings, six till 10, on TSN 10-50. You ain't first, you're last. All right, Overdrive continues. Powered by FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. We're gonna have our picks for the first weekend of the year in the NFL Playoffs wild card weekend. Get to that a little bit later on. The nail gun coming up. Buffalo Denver on Sunday. Six games this weekend. Can't wait. Leaves back in action tomorrow night. And again, I think if you're one of the 31 other teams in the league not name the Boston Bruins.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Today's a day to do whatever you got to do, right? You're gonna wave someone, you're gonna healthy scratch somebody, bad skate. It is literally the ultimate National Hockey League news dump. You could fire an assistant coach plus a head coach and get rid of all your scouting staff, do it today. Today's the day because all eyes are on the Bruins and that's another thing that comes out of this.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Regardless of any fact checking or fake news or whatever this this commentary from the radio host in Boston and then the reaction from the team has put all the eyes on the Bruins where you know a lot of people just kind of get caught up in their own teams in their own markets and I think what this is going to do is shine a light on you know what's going on there they've lost six in a row again they fired fired their coach. That's what I take out of this is I don't know what's going on in that room. I find it hard to believe Pasternak again. I'm not playing with that guy. I find that impossible to believe. You know what they can use?
Starting point is 00:35:16 But it's ugly. Yeah. They could use a 1980s blockbuster trade. And I don't think Pasternak or Morchan would be involved in it, but they need a freshening up. They tried to get Lindholm at eight. They need a freshening up, man. I'm glad you said that because I was thinking about it last night watching the Leafs, and I'm not using this Leaf team, but Matthews and Marner both minus six last night, which is horrendous
Starting point is 00:35:45 like that's that I know plus minus doesn't count for what it used to that's really embarrassing like that that's crazy that they were on for every single goal against last night. It's hard to do man. It's really difficult to do to put that into perspective. The last time two Maple Leaf forwards or minus six in the same game was Daniel Meriwold and Mike Bullard on Boxing Day 1991. They lost I believe 12-1 that night to Pittsburgh and apparently Lemieux was just on fire that night. 12-1? They lost 12-1 that night and Mario had like six or seven points like it was embarrassing two weeks later
Starting point is 00:36:31 The Doug Gilmore trade took place two weeks later and that speaks to what you just said Cliff Fletcher watched that game and said I can't do this anymore Something's got to give and 30 years ago. You could pick up the phone and say I'm trading five guys You give me five guys and we're gonna change You can't do that anymore. I know, but the thing is, the only thing I would say to counter that is, if the Boston Bruins are trying to make a trade, I guarantee you there's lots of managers that go, hey, we'll help you out here. We'll take Mason Lora.
Starting point is 00:37:01 Nobody's helping anybody out. No one's helping yet. But I bet you there will be another team, Jamie, that would say, I need a little freshen up too. Well, that's where you just brought in that Toronto trade or whatever, because Calgary needed a freshening up too, right? That's why that trade happened. Right. A couple years removed from the cup and they were like, we've got to figure this out here.
Starting point is 00:37:22 You're right. You find a dance partner to you know either trade players that are Under-achieving all of that type of stuff to shake up the room thing is though the Bruins already shook the room up They fired the coach yet next you write a player or two will go or whatever But I still come back to it. You don't want to have problems You don't want to have people talking about your organization, your culture or whatever. Play better. Like that's... Jeremy Swainman got the contract. You know, I'll be honest, in watching these games, he's not the problem. I know his numbers aren't good.
Starting point is 00:37:53 They are a mess in front of him. Like he's... He was making... Like the Orders beat them 4-0. That should have been 10-0 the other night. Like it was ridiculous how poorly they played in front of him. Like that's what's shocking. Like if you look at their decor and their goalie, what the goalie's supposed to be, you're thinking like, you know, these guys are going to be so locked down, you're not even going to be able to get close to the net, but they are getting dummy defensively, which is shocking for the Bruins. The shots they give up and the opportunities, it's crazy. I've never seen that from that team. They only, like they miss Hampus Limholtz.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Like he's a, you know, he's one of their top defensemen. Still, James. But you can't, you take one guy out, it shouldn't fall apart. That's my whole thing. And that's the role Jake McKay plays on this team. It's very similar. Right. And you know, that was what was, you know, the forwards putting them aside, it was ugly.
Starting point is 00:38:44 You know, I would assume they respond to more and I don't think we'll ever see that ever again from Matthews or Marner any of them and not all of them their fault but a lot of them like they were they were out to launch last night like none of them played well but I thought the defense pairing was as concerning and we talked about it yesterday like Morgan Raleigh's got an opportunity Mo really struggled last night like he he got beat off the wall a bunch below the line a bunch some dog park defense in front of the net like where am I going and that's something they got to figure out you know like I think when McCabe returns McCabe will play with Tana that pairing was incredibly successful and I think that makes a lot of sense. That's your your 1a pairing
Starting point is 00:39:26 Come playoff time, but Ekman Larson looks like he's hit the dog days of the season, right? Like he's played a lot of hockey's an older guy. You know a good one last he didn't play well last night You know, and I think he's hit a bit of a wall here, which is fine reasonable But we keep talking, you know third line center third line center Which I do think is something they're going to try to attack and try to acquire. I still think they need to figure out who is Morgan Riley going to play with. And, you know, he gets the benefit of the doubt come playoff time because he is a guy who stepped up in the playoffs in the past. To his credit, Morgan Riley has always shown up in the playoffs and elevated a step or two and he's a gamer come playoff time
Starting point is 00:40:06 And I believe he will do that again because he's earned that reputation But it does seem like a pretty consistent conversation like all the time Who's he gonna play with it last night was a big opportunity you're playing with Tanov. Tanov's been great He's been steady. He didn't have his best stuff last night either, but it's like I don't know if he'll play with Tanov tomorrow night I've after watching that if I'm Baruba like I got to switch that up together that was tonight together for that gas like that's where I was gonna go I think you can come back maybe I'm wrong Brian I didn't come back with that exact same lineup and it would just be it looked like they just sometimes
Starting point is 00:40:42 you have an off night you're allowed to do that for sure. The goalie didn't make the saves, the top players didn't play well defending. They were standing there and the puck would go by them defensively. That never happens. Marner and Matthew standing in front of the slot defending and the puck goes by them for a one time, for stall the skate right through. That's a stoppable puck. You need to make that same there.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Wall didn't have a great night. And Wall had been saving them the previous couple of games. He did not have a great night. None of them did. Willie had a good start. And that was about it. I think you come right back with them, the same lineup and go, guys play better.
Starting point is 00:41:21 You're on home ice, you've had a long week. And you'll get a response. Sometimes I don't think you need to try and reinvent the wheel. It's like, we're going to throw the game tape out and say, nobody played well. And we're going to go right back at it against Vancouver. And that's the way I would treat it. That's reasonable, Noodle.
Starting point is 00:41:42 I guess that's reasonable. I don't know if it answers the question of Morgan Reilly and who he's going to play with, but I can reason with that. Listen, they had won five in a row before that. It was an off night. They've struggled against Carolina. Carolina has just been an Achilles heel for them, but you get spotted a two-nothing lead seven, eight minutes into the game. You got to close that like you got to find a way to walk away with a point But it got away from them it happens, and I think that is reasonable Veteran team who's been playing pretty well winning a lot of games. We're throwing it out, but if it happens again Then that's gonna be it
Starting point is 00:42:17 Then you're gonna start looking forward to empty netter yeah, three to four to empty netter game over But that's a rod brindle more team, man They're not gonna quit and they're fast and they check and they're they're gonna try to wear you down even when they go down to cob Yeah, I mean it's wow Jordan stall still doing it like at his age and you know hat trick last night It's pretty incredible like the three of the brothers all played over a thousand games. They've all played 11 12 1300 games It's incredible all right darren pang in 20 minutes his take on the leafs going into the game tomorrow night the canucks are rolling through town this is going to be a big one i believe they're playing tonight demko and peterson are expected to play so take that for what it's worth you know vancouver again
Starting point is 00:43:02 will be on a back-to-back there in Carolina tonight which is pretty interesting considering the Leafs were there last night and then Vancouver will be up here tomorrow. So if Dampco is likely going tonight then you probably got Lanken in tomorrow for the Canucks and Patterson will certainly be playing as well. So we'll start looking ahead to that, get Panger's take on this Bruins team and where they're going to go from here and we will get to our NFL picks today a lot of people wondering Alice brothers on a cruise right now Guy wins the season and then decides to completely mail it in and Luke's on a flight So it's me and you pal the genius versus the guy You versus the genius we're making picks today old school old school
Starting point is 00:43:42 Hazen bro versus T-Mone Wilson. And we got to pick some totals too. So we'll get to that later this afternoon to set the scene for a wild card weekend. Overdrive continues, TS91050 and on TSN4. 2025 is your year. 2025. Start it right with New Year, New You on IR Radio.
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Starting point is 00:44:18 Explore it all. Feel brand new. At iHeartRadio.ca and on the 401 at the 427. The left lane is blocked there by a stalled vehicle. Good news though on the westbound side, in the collector's past Bayview that crash has cleared away. And eastbound on the QEW approaching Dorval had another crash blocking the HOV lane that has also cleared. Although if you are on the 4-4
Starting point is 00:44:49 in DVP you will find things slow moving northbound from approaching Bayview Blore to York Mills and southbound from Finch to York Mills. United Way needs your help fighting poverty in the Greater Toronto Area any way they can. Learn how your donation can make a difference at unitedwaygt.org. From the Newstalk 1010 Traffic Centre, I'm Christina Galli. All right, so the NFL playoffs get started tomorrow and I'm sure you guys saw online the All-Pro team was announced today and I don't know if this is more inspiration for Josh Allen, if it's even necessary if he needs it.
Starting point is 00:45:29 But Lamar Jackson was voted the All-Pro quarterback position. You think that has a factor in the MVP vote? Big time. It's the same 50 voters that vote for the MVP that vote for the All-Pro. No way. Yes. And I read this morning, whoever has been voted the MVP that year, they have been the All-Pro quarterback every year for the last one year.
Starting point is 00:45:52 What's he going to do with his necklace? That's a great question. Dude, his lineman got him a blinged out necklace that said MVP on it. What is he going to do with that? I guess win a Super Bowl MVP. Isn't that the play? Isn't that the ultimate mic drop? Like that's the mic drop. Dude, that's weird though, man. When it's a slam dunk, you're going to win the MVP and
Starting point is 00:46:12 then all of a sudden you're not and you don't? Yeah, listen, obviously it could change, but it seems unlikely. 30 of the 50 voters voted Lamar and 18 of them picked Josh Allen two of them picked Joe burrow which is interesting because burrow was phenomenal this year like statistically he was great how does the bang bangles coach get a hall pass and again great question great great question but what like you talk about a team that's supposed to do something in expectations where there's serious reasons for concern and a possible,
Starting point is 00:46:46 I don't like seeing people getting fired, but you would think that guy seeing that gong show to start two or three seasons in a row, why isn't he fired? I don't have an answer for you. I would guess it's a cheap owner. Like I do think there's a history of that in Cincinnati. You don't want to pay a guy not to coach. But you're right, I mean, Cincinnati,
Starting point is 00:47:04 we have this impression of them as this Super Bowl contending team every year. They don't make the playoffs. And they stink in September. They lost to New England at home in week one. New England at home. Do you know how hard that was to do? That was more difficult than minus six last night.
Starting point is 00:47:22 They don't show up until seven weeks into the season, man. It's outrageous. Yeah, it's every single year So I don't really have an answer for you But I am curious to see because now the now everything flips right now you're into the playoffs and the Lamar Jackson In the playoffs has been horrendous throughout his career not himself man Horrendous like you look at his numbers that that's not hyperbole like it It is really really ugly and if you're about to win your third MVP and you can't do it in the playoffs. This is gonna be
Starting point is 00:47:51 almost impossible for him to explain like You better come in with the heat man And they got to go through Pittsburgh then probably through Buffalo then through Kansas City just to make it to a Super Bowl But if you want to see if you want an MVP three times you better be able to do that Right like that has to be the expectation I don't care what the rest of your teams up to if you're a three-time MVP winner you better Drag your team to a Super Bowl if my house that scoff at that murderers row Then you better be able to exactly because that's what's happened with him, right?
Starting point is 00:48:23 I think I think my homes has three MV. I'm it last year at super bowls exactly did he go down to baltimore down to buffalo absolutely he did that's exactly what he did yeah so that that's expected of lamar yet if i'm if i'm betting money on who i think will play better this weekend and throughout the playoffs i think it's josh allen i think allen's getting robbed here a little bit i think he was the mvp should have gotten it you know, I guess we'll see what happens when it officially comes out But it Josh even had the tweets coming out or Losky did it a couple other guys did it the MVP race is over Yep, and usually those are true man. So any of those media members gonna lose their jobs Very very different obvious what's his Twitter account saying is he still talking about the guy down in Boston?
Starting point is 00:49:08 I don't know. I will do he's on the case do you track with the guys get him on? Let's hear what the guy has to say the thing. Yeah, but what don't come okay? We can but what else is he gonna unless he's willing to say this is where I heard this from Yeah, this is the this is the difference like. And if he's a lying lunatic, we're associated with it. Then it's like, do you really want this guy on the show if he's just popping off and talking about what he's talking about? But more on this into the next hour with the Leafs in action
Starting point is 00:49:35 tomorrow night, Vancouver in action tonight. Darren Pango joins us, Dave Naylor and Picks coming up hour two next. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050 and on the TSN app. Time now for TSN 1050 Time Saver Traffic. We are still seeing a problem on the eastbound 401 at the 427 worst old vehicle is in the left lane. Things are still slow moving if you're on the 404 and DBP northbound from approaching Baby Blur to York Mills and southbound from Finch to York Mills.
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