OverDrive - OverDrive - January 13, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: January 13, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson joins to discuss the NFL playoffs matchups in the Wild Card round and Hayes and Bro's selection for the Monday Night Football matchup. The guys discuss Brad Treliving's comments on the Maple Leafs' search for a center and Auston Matthews' status at the 4 Nations Face-Off and the Rangers' outlook for the season.

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mcclennan there is luke wilson in studio back from his iowa's to retreat are you also merely party work i gotta stop that like we are on iowa's to parts you have been doing some goofy things i'll be honest You know, I'm all about accountability if we don't win this playoffs You might need to fire me. You might need to fire like I deserve to be it's one thing, you know We won the regular season the last two years regular seasons don't mean anything to us

We've done been there done that back-to-back But I'm getting to the point now where I like maybe i'm i took in the playoff that's one one i chose a plan in a day and do much better about your eyes a you forgot it's uh... riveting wonder one revenue and one one a couple of totals yeah i gotta get to the bottom of this okay what was the argument of the eighty five tax like what what was the rule that was supposedly changed not change and then there were some scumbag comments and stuff like that well we weren't aware that do be is da hardy's brother the the criminal referee that was

caught in the like he's a criminal he is a criminal heart see explain where do you get some self into hot water okay noodle so i'm i I'm out in Tofino, Huffin, Iowaska last week and Dougie hits me up with this kind of gray text message like, hey I'm gonna change the things. I'm like sure buddy I'm not reading this. Big novel. So I sit here and I'm like alright he's given out points for totals, he's given out two points for the spread same rules apply. I didn't go through the whole thing well after the first game they go 0 for 3 so I thought we were doing the same scoring as we've always done

here which I hate by the way but I figured we keep it uniform where they mess up we get points and all of a sudden Hayes in the chat like read the rule book buddy It's zero zero. Yes, okay Then there's more finishes. I have a lot to say I read these and there's like in fine print doogie puts this stupid new rule So I'm like, okay, no bigs. Whatever. It's your zero will be fine We fast forward where again I was awful this week. I had on that Apparently I can't play in the playoffs, but we get one point for covering a total and I'm like, all right

Well, it's one nothing Hayes and Al's bro from the Al's bro from the I'm gonna not use profanity from the cruise Yes, get into scumbag mode and I get zero zero get into scumbag mode and then I get 0-0. That's a bonus point and only qualifies if you covered the spread. Hayes was asleep in the Gimp casket and he woke up after that one man. Well here's, here's, let me, let me, let me address everything here. Under no circumstance was that ever spoken about noodles. Well, they were trying to jam me because they had the next game and I'm like Doogie and then he's trying to poke Doogie in the group chat. Doogie, Doogie, tell him, tell him Doogie. Well this is the problem okay and I'm like do you and then he's trying to poke do you in the group chat do we do we tell well this is the problem okay and this is what bothered me about the whole thing is do he is responsible for the way this show is portrayed and produced and the communication that goes out into the

world and he completely dropped the ball on this reason why I know that is because I stuck around for an hour after and I got young kids at home and I'm sitting here with Doogie and his cologne and I'm like, all right, so this is what we're doing? In order for it to be a bonus point, you got to get the spread right. The whole thing of a bonus point is that it's on top of some other accomplishment. That's the whole point of it. So you're saying you only get the bonus point if you got the other part right?

That's not, when I hear bonus, I think because we always do a spread, there's another point available to get. But then it's just a point. Again, it's semantics. It doesn't necessarily matter in the end. In case you missed it, he put it on Twitter, this is one one in case you miss it he put on twitter this is our rolling didn't put the word bonus and jack because he got it wrong is the whole point of the tweet was wrong yes that's we've got the rulebook everything that was a down right now i have a lot of guys like a lot of personal scumbag i just didn't have a man thirty seconds do you have anything

to say it because you are getting destroyed right now do you have any comment ten seconds or less? This is absolutely brutal So that is true Hayes and I stuck around we hashed out some of the rules Yeah, I can't talk around a lot of things at home Dying for me to arrive so I can put them to bed Yeah, they they had to wait for me for hours because of doogie and the incompetence, but please continue to do that I was under the impression that the spread and the total were separate. As was I! You were of the impression. That's what was on Twitter on overdrive1050 it was

the spread was two points, the total is one. So is that how we're keeping it? Well I guess it's one one. Can I ask this because I'm getting these hour-long meetings between you and Doogie I'm a little worried about. Yeah well and Al's brother was there too. Oh great Yeah, yeah He had Cruz where he was supposed to be buying that night. How are we doing the Super Bowl? I'm not doing that today. Well, let do you figure it out? We'll figure there will be a lot of picks on the line. I do you figure okay? I guess long as it's fair as long as we all read the fine print and Dougie doesn't switch up at the last minute. Right now it's 1-1 and you got the pick

tonight. We got the pick tonight. Now it's Brothers coming up here in a few moments. Okay, so we'll get to that momentarily. Something that Chumon brought to you by Boston Pizza, Canada's favorite sports bar. This January at BP you get delicious mouth-watering pasta starting at $11.99 every single day. Enjoy the pastas you love at prices you can't miss. Hustle with your local VP. Tonight we're asking online who had the worst wild card weekend defeat this weekend? Mike Tomlin, Jordan Love, Justin Herbert. Those three, who has to chew on it the most? Tomlin. Tomlin? Really? Really? Yeah. That's interesting. That's a good one. Eight years without a playoff win. That's a divisional game and he they got

stomped on Saturday night. They got stomped and they laid an egg tactically and that's supposed to be his thing. He's your guy. I could not believe it. You know I sit here and even early on and we did a small thing on Jay, and it's tough sometimes when it's live, and I wish we could get a little more X and O sometimes, but I'm like watching Lamar run, and I'm like, this is not a complex run scheme. This is what, day one of college, I'm learning how to run zone read. And traditionally, teams don't do it in the NFL because the guys are too fast and they can kind of do a bit of both and They basically went up and said hey

TJ why you're just gonna knife down and chase after Henry or Justice Hill? There wasn't an adjustment for that now This is a zone read where they gave it to Henry if you're watching right now 28-7 games over at that point correct, but it was like we're just gonna not have anybody like if you're gonna knife again I'm getting a little technical with the DN Generally your inside backer then has to scrape over the top to fill the gap Well, they weren't doing that again. This is like fundamentals 101 and I'm sitting here And I'm like do they not think Lamar will pull the ball because I maybe I'm missing something

But did Lamar not just pass Mike Vic for the greatest quarterback runner of all time? I couldn't believe that that was the game plan going in defensively and then the next thing is you know they're trying to run the ball early in the game and make it this like old-school Steelers Ravens kind of like hard-nosed football game which I get to a degree your run game stinks and you're playing the best run defense in the NFL. Russ is inconsistent, but you know what he's good at? Off-schedule plays and throwing go balls.

In the second half, he did it. They had a little bit of life, little bit, and I sit here and go like, why wouldn't you sit here and say like, hey, we're coming out here and we're throwing haymakers? I thought the commanders did that from the first snap yesterday. They got a couple breaks, but they're like, we got nothing to lose here. We got rookie quarterback, new team.

We're coming out here, great energy. We're gonna be physical, see what happens. Where it's like, the Steelers tried to like, almost get cute, and I'm like, this is not, this is not how you play the Baltimore. Getting cute is not a good recipe to play Baltimore and you said he hasn't won in a while the next thing I'll say why is chewing on it is where's the fix like I I look at was the fix him getting gas I

think you might be out both the quarterbacks they're gonna wipe them out again and get two different guys in there I think he might get acts this time I think he might get acts to a dog and it really I think he's it's definitely a conversation because I look at this thing and you know head coaches generally do have their hand in the pot when it comes to the roster. And I'll say this, I think Mike Tomlin, I want to be very clear, is a tremendous coach and he's a great reason why they've been there. And there's not many coaches that can take that roster and go to the playoffs, but I

think there's a lot of coaches that in the playoffs are much more willing to take risks and go for it. I mean even in the first half, the games certainly get away from it. I know it was fourth and inches, but I'm like dude this is a Pittsburgh Steelers. Bring in fields and run your quarterback sneak. Get this first sound. It's fourth and inches. But I look at this offensive roster and I say okay okay, wide receiver, you got Pickens, who's an elite talent, he's got a lot of off the field issues right now, he's clearly not bought into the program.

After that, it's very, very thin. Van Jefferson, Mike Williams, Calvin Austin, thin. The offensive line has gotten better, are they great? Absolutely not. Tight end, was a bit of a revolving door. I like Friar. Ramon's pretty good. But he was a bit of a revolving door dory didn't even play every staff it got a

little strange me i look at the runners i you know are you put nazi harris is a top ten running back so i sit here then you look at the quarterbacks and you're like okay we can't go to super old these two guys but see that that is the the other side of the coin you you also ask yourself how the hell did Mike Tomlin get them to the playoffs? I agree.

And how did that team make the playoffs? I want to be very, very clear. I agree with that statement wholeheartedly, but my next point would be what I just listed has seemingly been them for the last five years. How has Mike Tomlin not been like, okay, give me a couple more dogs and And now all of a sudden we're going to win this game in the playoffs. And I even look at their defense. Like I, when I think of the Steelers for me personally, partially cause I played against this guy later on, I think of James Harrison, that kind of physicality.

I think of Troy, Paul, Amal. It's like, I look at this team now, the secondary does have Minka very good player, you know know the linebackers Good, you know TJ watt is obviously phenomenal, but more of a pass rush guys not really like Hey, I'm gonna bow up here like James Harrison Stop the run talk a bunch of smack and just intimidate everybody on the field So I I think they've kind of lost their identity a little bit. I'll be very honest Yeah, I mean I can reason with that

I would answer this question. I would start with Justin Herbert at one Herbert was horrendous and like the intercept the first interception he threw that was the game the pick sixes The one pick six was not him his fault, but the other one was his fault But it's three not they charged down the field the first drive They they kick a field goal Then they get it back on a turnover and he rolls out on a play action and throws across the field ridiculous That is such a horrendous decision From a rookie a college quarterback wouldn't make that decision

That was the worst play of the weekend totally that one right there was the worst that when they said that when he threw that ball they were up three nothing like they're done they're gonna lose this game yeah it's a they got crushed he was awful so and this is some more like but he hasn't been awful all year Brian he hasn't thrown picks all year he they listen they've run the ball a lot more there it's it's a in the trenches kind of hardball type for all he's he's been fine he's been good but this guy's played two playoff games and they've been historically bad. The first one was in Jacksonville where they were up 27-0 or whatever. And then the other night against a Houston team that I'm sorry was dying for them to win. Like Houston was awful. They went

like, Punt, punt, turnover, punt, turnover, punt, and somehow 10-6. It was insane. And to add to what you're saying, so that play you're talking about, I don't know if we could get this up, but it's a, you know, your traditional role, right, in what you're hoping for in film and for whatever tale they had, I think it was Quentin Johnson, is going to sell like he's running it over, and you're hoping that the guy basically undercuts it, which is something, again, they would have saw in film film in in the moment he gets not undercutting space you basically turn around so somewhat of a trick play

the problem with trick plays is if they don't work you can still throw it so again i'm not under throw yes a veteran guy sits there and that'll be the real like a work they're trying to get a home run there that's why quentin's over there so he's run this over they're hoping undercuts he turns around the other way and it's like they're hoping that he's open by 10 15 yards Like that's how you draw it up, right? He's clearly not open let alone by 10 15 yards

You got to airmail that into the stands put it into the fifth row of the stands and that's not What is talked to the guy where it's like? Hey? If it's not there, if you can run, take some yards, you can do this, but we live to see another down. Exactly. Archie, let me ask you this. Your boy Hayes is just brokenhearted at Jordan,

loves performances. He was terrible too. Terrible. How many years or opportunities or chances are you gonna waste to look at this guy again to see if he can get over the hump and play better? Like, do you give him next year, if he does it again, you're like we got to look elsewhere. Like what do you do with that guy? How long do you wait for it? Well the tough part, O-Dog, for me answering that is how long do I wait for it as like

a fan? Dude, you're not a fan. You're a guy that was a tight end. If that was your quarterback, would you be like does he better do it this year why I would say yes but the problem is they're committed to this guy you know they're paid on their paid them and what's annoying about it for me if I'm in that roster is when you pay is a 55 mil when you pay a guy 55 million we all take less you know and that kind of happened with Russ when he was in Seattle as well, where it's like if we're going to, you know, pay somebody on our offense, and this is not speaking as a fan, this is a guy in the locker room, this much money, he's

got to earn every dollar of that. Basically like he's got to make me, everyone, not just me, the offensive line, the running backs, he's got to make everybody else around him better Because if we were paying a 30 million dollar guy We'd have 25 million dollars on offense to get better players Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans, correct, right? So it's like that's kind of what has happened here and I sit here and say like yesterday I Hated the amount of fight and emotion that the Packers showed. I hate that was my least favorite thing of the whole weekend.

What do you mean by that? It was funny because Tucker Kraft said something today in his exit interviews and he was like, you know, I could kind of feel this brewing. And I remember sitting there thinking to myself like, feel it brewing. Like what is what's going on in that locker room? And what I mean is well like you asked yesterday I'm gonna go to the commander's bucks game and there's a few plays in it that like jumped off the film to me Early on first play game or second play the game Bobby Wagner comes down hill smokes Bucky Irving just lays him out

Boom on a blitz. Okay commanders got to a momentum Clearly, I don't think a ton people thought they were gonna win and then Baker Mayfield came out and was like you guys think you're Warriors you guys think you battle I don't remember the scramble I want to say was in second quarter Baker just goes up the middle trucks Bobby Wagner Yeah into a first down third and short. I think that's the kind of like Holy smokes like you want to get the sideline fired up. You want to get everybody like that's our leader When he has that kind of energy, it is infectious, everybody starts rolling.

And it's an attitude, it's a mindset. I look at Jordan Love yesterday, and it's like, I'm not asking him to be Baker Mayfield, because he's not, as far as that kind of emotion on wearing it on his sleeve, but I'm like, where's the fight in this Packers team? Even late in the game, you know, the Pack at the ball back, they're down 12.

Things look bleak. You know what? As much as I like to poke jokes at Russell, we get the ball back down 12 with three minutes to go. Russell's sitting in the huddle frothing at the mouth, and he still believes he's going to get it done. And maybe we don't, but maybe in the NFC Championship against Green Bay, when we are down two with three minutes left, we get an on-site kick and find a way to win that game and it's like men you're getting paid 55 million bucks

Until this game is over You cannot be sitting out here like yeah, you know got a very nonchalant By softer vibe to him and you throw the pick late again. Hey, I'm not saying they could have won that game Well, they could I think they could have won that game No sure like that like I thought the Green Bay's defense played out well as you could ever ask them to play Yes, Jalen Hurts didn't have his a stuff They like the pat that was on a platter for Jordan love will show up and win that game correct And he couldn't do it and my next thing is like you want to talk about Jordan love and I want to be clear here

I think the guys all the Billy in the world but I look at it and I say all right it's 10-7 Buffalo Denver at the half should have been 10-10 Josh Allen came out in second half and said watch this you look at Lamar Jackson I mean he said watch this from regular season Lamar which is big for him how many times that Patty Mahomes in the playoffs in any situation be like, all right, here we go, boom. You know, if you're getting paid 55 million bucks, you need to have those moments. That's just a fact of the matter. You get paid 55 million dollars, there's got to be moments in every game where you're like, that is why we pay this man.

And Jordan Love had zero. He had none of it. His it his first throw the game he almost threw a pick high it's a bottle it was an awful throw he like when we do warm-ups on defense that you think down the field that's what it looks like the linebackers drop and the coaches throw right their head yeah it looked like he was doing a practice rep for the defense it was bad man like the the the numbers on him anything like seven eight yards or more down the field it was it was abysmal performance. I just keep going on this ran haze because I know you're a Packers guy. Yeah. You know and noodles and all that you guys can chime in here because I don't know anything about

hockey but one of the things that really annoyed me and like my also it was tough that I was on the spread so but your left guard goes down and he's a huge loss. Who's significant. Jenkins is a really good player. Totally. But now all of a sudden we bring a kid in that I think he had what three holds and six plays? Something like that. And then we pull him and put another guy in.

And I sit here and say like, if you're in that offensive line room, if you're a front office guy, how do you not know at this point of the year that you're that thin in offensive line? How do you not know at this point of the year that you're that thin an offensive line get some veteran guy off the street? That's like listen We know that you're not in the best shape you ever played But you're better than this rookie who's gonna come in and absolutely jam us because he's not prepped Who in that room is not keeping the rookie accountable if you're we used to say this all the time you're one snap away your one snap away from our entire hopes and dreams depending on you

and clearly in green bay that's not the message at that really annoyed me to have a guy come in again not expect to play perfect but to play that bad worries pulled after ten plays whatever was that's that discuss fifty five million you expect better than man you got you gotta get way more than that man jordan lovey didn't have a good year but he took a step back in the playoffs yesterday game was available for him and he didn't know orman what about the fifteen-yard penalties even late in the game i'm like that we got a fight here

they stop seqon i think was third down age i thought they handled seqon very well yeah and they said one guy shoves him to the ground against fifteen yards and like that smart man so stupid so i don't think that we'll get too who fumbled the ball right off the start. Dixon had one early and they had a D Lyman do it later. Yeah. So dumb. Um, Alan and Lamar, we'll get to Al's brother here in a minute, but the whole week's going to be about that game. It's the Sunday game at 630. Yeah.

Like I thought both quarterbacks did exactly what they had to do at home, took care of it. Easy win. Everyone gets out healthy. Like like it sets up beautifully Ravens bills and I haven't seen the spread I'm sure it's out is it is it a pick? It was no it what I believe it was minus one and a half for Buffalo at start you see now and it's flipped to minus one and a half. Wow how much money came in on Baltimore quick. Listen I could see if Lamar plays the way he did all year and the way he did Saturday, it's got to be Josh. Josh Allen's got to have the game of his life. That's the way I see it. I like Baltimore 1 through 53. I like Baltimore more than Buffalo,

but you're playing in Buffalo. I mean, that's significant. But Josh can equalize. Josh can be the big equalizer. And the next thing I'll say is one thing that goes unnoticed with this buffalo bills defense is that they were able to take the ball away but as far as turnover margin goes they were number one in the nfl so now what's on your sit here and if you can somehow muster up a couple turnovers and josh's plan out of his mind you're gonna win this game

but that being fit said i would definitely lean Baltimore. As much as everyone's saying, hey, this is Josh Allen's year, he's gonna get it done, the same exact thing can be said for Lamar. Yeah, he's been phenomenal, and they've been great ever since their buy.

Baltimore has been great. They've been phenomenal. They've been on both sides of the ball. Run defense, they've been great all year. Second half of the year, their pass defense has been way better, way better. Offensively, like the idea that you have Lamar and Derrick Henry in the same backfield is... And Zay Flowers might be back. I doubt it, but he could. And again, even if he's not, I mean, obviously they want him in. You know, Bateman will take the top off. You got Likely and Andrews

underneath. I think it's gonna be a great game though, man. And like the votes are in already for the MVP, so it's already been determined. that and i'd like the votes are in already for the mvp so it's already been determined and that we all believe lamar's gonna win it i think you will because of the all-pro but i will say this that if alan goes superman on and even if lamar plays great the ravens play great in the bills win because of josh allen voters are gonna look so stupid agreed because this is what

this is exactly what it is. Like what Allen can do. Are the votes already in? Yeah, they've already been determined. They're already in. They've already been cast. So it makes no difference what happens here on Sunday night. But if Josh Allen does it basically on his own, it's going to be weird to see Lamar, especially if Lamar, and conversely, if Lamar plays poorly, and Lamar and and i was just okay in the bills when it's what thing that i i i think is unfortunate uh... for both teams this can be very physical like i look at what

buffalo did yesterday and i think that one of the things i talked about flows are offensive line really strong very very healthy all the time so it's like talked about in Buffalo is their offensive line. Really strong. Very, very strong. And healthy all the time. So it's like you got a great offensive line going up against a very, very good defensive line. Again, number one run defense in the NFL wire to wire here. And it's like that matchup is going to be a bloodbath. And on the flip side, you're gonna have Ed Oliver,

you're gonna have the Bills front seven going up against Lamar, Derrick Henry, and still a very good offensive line in Baltimore. It's going to be like, I would assume, we'll see how it plays out, a heavy hitting slugfest, you know, Ali Frazier type situation. And then whoever wins that thing is gonna have the Chiefs, most likely after playing CJ Strav. Houston. Houston. Like they might win that by three touchdowns. have the Chiefs most likely after playing CJ Strav. Houston. Houston. Like they might win that by three touchdowns.

Chris Jones is going to be salivating being like these boys are beat up coming down an emotional high and I'm not nearly as. It's not going to be easy. Is that a trap? Oh, here they go. Oh, noodles. Noodles. Imagine you're on your own show getting cut off by a guy who just left the cruise.

That's all right. What's he going to be wearing right now? He better be a cruise wearer. I'll be very disappointed. You're on your own show getting cut off by a guy who just left the cruise What's he wearing right now? You better be a cruise where I'll be very disappointed with a shirt on his house, but well shirts are optional Brother what's happening? Alice brother your cruise was it a success or what? Oh Can't hear we had no audio from al's brother. That's great. This guy, get him out of here, man. That's not good. Turn the mic on. Can't even figure out this guy's mic.

What is happening? This is your partner. You get a chance, man. I know. You want to talk about Killer Instinct? There he is. There he is. We got you, Al's brother.

Oh, here we go. Here we are. All right, buddy. It was a fantastic gentleman. It was a fantastic cruise. I wish the picks went a little bit better, but the tables it went swimmingly fellas. I like that okay all right well let's get right to the action here because we have the opportunity to pick up points tonight right because of Doogie's fine print it doesn't flip over

to you guys if we miss tonight at worst Alice brother we're going into the second weekend tied so we have a real opportunity tonight on Fandl it's Vikings minus two and a half the totals 47 and a half let's begin with the spread where's your head at it's all over the place hazy be it is a little all over the place but recently I went i dug into the information and i'm liking it the minnesota bike i thought you know i will be able to go to favor it's no i like to know if you're too uh... i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i that that's what they are. They've been the better team. They've been a much better team all year long. You look at road favorites, they're seven and one on a Monday night football against the spread too. But ultimately it's top five offense, top five defense, and you look at the win rates,

they are across the board a much better team than the LA Rams as well. And ultimately I think that TJ Hawkinson, Luke, your boy, he's going to be the difference maker in tonight's game The Rams given up over a hundred yard a hundred catches and over 1,100 yards the tight ends this week this year He did not play in that last game that they played so I think that's gonna be a big difference in this game I think that Minnesota wins this one. Okay, so you like Minnesota. We've been going back and forth I have no idea why we picked this game. We had we had that it's so dumb so stupid it all of the other a very little top now i listen i i can reason with this because of for a couple of reasons one neutral site game i do think is significant i think a ton of viking fans are going to be there

darnell was awful week eighteen he concerns me darnell versus stafford is very very concerning but i'm willing to look past one bad game and him Regrouping and Kevin O'Connell putting forth a game plan that is going to lead to some success here They have been better collectively throughout the season Rams are healthy now you do have to consider that but I'm okay with laying the points here. Don't love it I think it's a coin flip game But I'm okay with going with our original thought. What's the over under? What are you guys doing there? The total is 47 and a half. Fells Brother,

where is your head out on the total at this point? This one I'm definitely more confident in. I think it's going to be a shootout. I think both secondaries are very weak going up against two elite receiving groups so I think this is going to be rather high scoring game. So I lean over 47 and a half in this one. Yeah, I see 28 24 Vikings tonight kind of feel that's such a degenerate play when you're guessing the actual score Dude, I just it's scary when guys toss that out man. I know it is like it like and you try to see it You're like, yeah, I see a touchdown here We're on the Vikings in the over tonight doogie lock it in with your point system all right everyone happy everyone's on the same page I'm not happy I wish you guys

were on the Rams you I like the Vikings you like the Vikings one team I'm pulling for like personally doesn't Sam Darnold terrify you and that's saying I just tell him I like I'm writing Sam Darnold emotional standpoints well like I'm pulling that they pull some upsets in I think it'll be a fun story it would be and now they actually they're gonna go to Billy Billy which is big you're gonna give us that game right I'm I can say this I think we're gonna avoid the Bills and Ravens next week out we'll see but I think we're probably gonna avoid picking that game we'll find out we'll see. But I think we're probably going to avoid picking that game. We'll find out.

We'll see where we're heads at as we get later in the week. You're going over and... Over in the Vikings. So I need the Vikings to win on a last second field goal today. Yeah. That'd be nice for me. Yeah, you'll see what happens. Okay.

Ideally to win by three. Yes. To win by three with you. No, down one. Go 28-24. 28-24 tonight. Al's brother, good to see you again. When are we going to see you again? Yes, the win by three without down one go 28 20 or thing 28 24 Tonight I was brother good to see you again. When are we gonna see you again later in the week? I guess on Friday with more picks So we'll be making the picks on Friday. Okay, when's your next cruise?

I know you always have one book before you leave the previous one. When are you going on another cruise? I Did win myself another one while I was there so I got to book one in the next 30 days. Doing what? Possibly March. What did you do to win a cruise? Possibly March? What did you do to win a cruise? I gambled a lot. That's what I did. And they're like, please come back onto the boat. Win some more. Al'sboro, are you a slots guy? What's your game man? No I'm not. I'm a blackjack guy. Wow. How much coin do you have to lose on a cruise for them to invite you back? alzbrough you a slots guy what's your game and now i'm not a blackjack guy how much coin do you have to lose on a cruise for them to invite you back to see if it is with a number man like this is a problem care

it's not a little more than people are i'd survive it's all about how much you just play if you win lose win lose if you believe the crews even i got one like a few hundred bucks by the end of the weekend but you need even and you get a free cruise. Man, you're set. That's why I cruise all the time. You hear that, Hayes? I have a rule when I go to the casino. If I ever am close to being even, I walk into the bathroom and I say, I ask myself in the mirror if I'm a coward, and then I go back out there. Go back and double down.

Imagine going to the casino to get a tie. Dude, you know how many buddies I have? What their signature move is all of their winnings, it might be 25 grand. On the way out of the casino, they'll put it on red or black and try to double it all out. And they don't care what happens. That's the sickest, stupidest move I've ever seen. No, it's not, oh, dog. That's the way.

That is the way to gamble. There's guys that sit there in a diaper because they don't want to leave the table. That's the most disgusting thing. You see a guy, I will go for dinner, go out drinking all night, have breakfast at four o'clock in the morning, walk by that table. That person's still sitting there. Hasn't moved. Holger players. Well, that's a casino on land. Can you imagine the debauchery on a cruise? Guys in a bathing suit. Like it's just got to be debauchery. I love how they give them 30 days to dump more money into the crew. You have 30 days. What, if you book it in 31 days, they're not going to take your business out? That would be the grossest table. Like wet bikini farts up your back hair. like wet bikini farts up your back hair. Awful.

After a cruise buffet for the fifth time that day. Can you imagine what's happening in there? Speedo farts on the cruise. Good luck, Al's brother. We'll catch you Friday and we cannot wait for that cruise in March. Good seeing you. Absolutely. There's Al's brother. Skool! Skool, let's go Skool tonight. There you go. catch you Friday we cannot wait for that cruise in March good seeing you absolutely

there's Al's brother Skoll! Skoll, let's go Skoll tonight there you go Luke, good seeing you pal, good luck tonight Bart C next weekend we rebound Rampage

Rampage starts next weekend next week all right, Brad Trelivant spoke today, what did he say about the least pursuit of another centerman and Austin Matthews possibly going to the Four Nations face face off we'll get to that next all right Matthew Shane coming up the Dallas Stars are being town tomorrow night that two Shane's a pretty good center pretty good player center wing kind of moves around at times but stars are in town for the only time tomorrow

night and the least beat Dallas in Dallas a few weeks ago they played Dallas very well in the past yeah and listen thes I would expect to have a much better effort and be ready to play tomorrow and Brad Treeliving decided to speak with the media today. I'm not exactly sure why today was the day but he came out and... You know why? Because he probably figures if I don't and another couple weeks goes by then guys like us are going to gonna say we never hear from brad so he probably just gets out of the way why not i guess yeah i mean you had forty plus games come on out and speak and uh... he was

asked about the pursuit of a center i mean that's what a lot of people's focus has been on right who's who's gonna play center on the third line for the leaves down the stretch into the playoffs here's what uh... trey living in the same now the guys at the top of the food chain a pretty darn good like austin and and you know the how can you talk

uh... in the positive your john's had really sort of say you're going to go and get somebody about that it's just not you know i don't think that's realistic is there ways that we can you know continue to look at that adding to that? Sure. I think there's some depth there.

Is that an area that we'd like to continue to look at? Sure, it's one. If there's one out there that fits, reliable on both sides of the puck, certainly somebody that can add offense, all those types of things. Like I said, what you want and sometimes what's available is two different things. So we'll keep looking. Yeah, I don't know what... I didn't hear the question, so I can't imagine anyone suggested they'd find someone better than Matthews or Tavares. It

could have been a scenario where Tavares in the past had moved to the wing and, you know, there's some thoughts coming into this year by the end of the year could Tavares maybe be a third line center but he's played so well I guess what I take out of that is Trevon is basically saying John's their second line center come the playoffs you know yeah like that's that's what's happening here is they're not looking to move him to the wing he's not gonna move down the lineup it's Matthews one John two and they'll figure out the rest. And they're probably looking guys, it's gonna take teams I would guess quite some time to

pack it in this year because of how bunched up it is, especially in the East. Like everyone's thinking we need a couple good weeks here and we're in it. Yeah. Like we're not selling anything, so you got to just keep your nose to the ground and keep sniffing around on what you want. Like who's going to start selling assets right now and do that to their fan base? Nobody. I don't even know if the Jimmy Rutherford move is available right now. I just think that there's the parody and then like the insiders have been saying, there's

two breaks here. There's the four nations and then there's the trade deadline. So I think you're going to see a lot of stuff after the four nations. I don't think you're going to see stuff before it. To your point, teams that are clogged up, and there are teams obviously at the bottom, but those guys, if you're Seattle, if you're Buffalo, if you're Nashville, if you're San Jose, you're Chicago, those are teams you certainly have been scouting for a long time. I think managers are going to wait closer to the deadline because they're going to try

and drive their prices up. So even if you call and you're looking for, I don't know, let's, Ryan O'Reilly, well, Barry Trotz isn't going to move him tomorrow just for the sake, unless the offer is ridiculous that you try and get ahead of it. I think there would be a marketplace for players like that and the closer that you get to the deadline I think the price goes up. So I'm I I yeah I think that's that that is the concern is you named it. It's it's Buffalo Chicago, San Jose, Nashville, Seattle five teams that Realistically know their season is done and they're not they're

not going to make it. I think you could throw Anaheim in there I think Utah's close Philly's close the Islanders are close yeah but you know look at Ottawa yesterday they went they win both games over the weekend and and now they're alive again and Detroit Detroit's won eight of ten you know and they've won seven in a row yeah so Detroit like Detroit's not moving off anyone the Habs certainly aren't like the Habs aren't gonna do that right now. Habs are on fire they're getting points every every night there there are two points out of the playoffs so and the Rangers you know if they haven't done it by now they're not gonna it just it's a process of elimination

they're just are not that many teams. Do you guys think the Rangers are like gonna get back on track and be comfortably into the playoffs? Do you think they're going to do that? I don't think comfortably at any point. They might make the playoffs not comfortably. I think they'll go on a run, but I still think they need something to jar that room. What?

I'm telling you, they jar the room. What else do they need to jar the room like they got rid of the captain They got rid of cackle. They've had all this trauma But the captain's a four like they can and cackles what a third line guy I'm saying noodles you got to give me an example of something that could happen So why did you add for somebody like their top player like their top centerman like Z Zabaniad for player X throughout the league. I know everyone's like, hey, there was rumblings at Vancouver, they sniffed around JT. What team is going to give up their top centerman for Zabaniad in return?

All they have to say is one statement. We watched him enough in the playoffs last year where it's no thanks. So I mean, Zabaniad is a very good player, not having a great season. But I think I'm not saying trade him. I'm saying it's a jarring move where, you know, I think it's unfortunate, but Jacob Truba was a dead man walking this summer. So they put him in a bad spot. You know, he was a captain that they tried to move and it didn't work out.

So now it was only a matter of time. Kako, nice player, but not impact. Maybe it's Kreider. Maybe I'm pointing at the wrong guy. Maybe it's Chris Kreider, a guy who has been the heart and soul of that team, Mr. New York Ranger, something like I'm talking as far as a shot across the bow, like this is the trade. Like we are jarring. That's what I think because they're not firing the coach because if they would have they would have done that two weeks ago or a month and a half ago when they when things started going south to me it's it's within that room and I don't know if Chris Drury is saying I'm I'm waiting for that that trade but something's gonna come and all of a sudden you do need a healthy Shesterkin too because Jonathan of the Quick looks 40 years old

and Spicy Pork Louie is winning games for them the other day. Well Shesterkin's been activated I believe right over the weekend he's playing and one thing I would say is this Todd McClellan Detroit Red Wing thing may change the La Violette approach. Like I do think it's strange they've gone this far with him uh... even though he's only been there for a year and a half you know he's he hasn't been there that long and they have filtered through coaches and and obviously they are averse to it they don't want to do that yet look at

what mcclellan is doing immediately with detroit do you have a similar coach and we always say it's ridiculous as we talked about last week it's crazy, the coach. And we always say it's ridiculous. As we talked about it last week, it's ridiculous, the coach bumps. But the reason they always do it is because they get the coach bumps. You see someone and it happens. But the thing is, they only get it for like a year. Look at Labby. Last year he took him to the conference final and then all of a sudden the next year you're

on the hot seat. That's insane. It is crazy. That's Jim Montgomery. You know what I mean? Like that we are seeing now it's easier to fire the coach than to trade players that have no move clauses. That's really what it is because Jim Montgomery is an elite coach and that's why Doug Armstrong said I'll fire the guy I have in place right now because he's available. Like that's that's are saying. This isn't Labby's fault.

He doesn't go out there and skate around with dry hair like Panarin and can't make saves and can't go out there. LaFrenier has been struggling. They all have been. Right. Like it's not Labby's fault. Yes, he has to own some of it. The coach does, but that's the easiest pathway.

And Labby's a great coach and if they fire them it won't be because of you know him underperforming it's his team is underperforming and they need a change that they're gonna like I said I you know I would have called Joel Quinnville and say we want this job like I mean to me he's an elite coach out there that you know a guy who would only come back if he has an opportunity would win would take on the Rangers right now? I honestly don't know if he would. They're a pretty damn good team on paper.

They're just not playing well. That's the thing. You get an elite goaltender, you get Adam Fox, so you got Norris, Avesna, and some pretty darn good players up front. Not playing well enough. That's what it is. That roster's not junk. They're the like i that rosters not junk they're they're pretty good players and it's it just they're not playing well

like if you've you guys have watched it yeah i've watched the bus i guess jimmy with a concern is like how could you where how how is there that great a fall off like how is did you guys look like a real competitive team against that got to florida and how are you all of a sudden this like what has happened to you for you to get to this that you know what it's a if I had the answer I mean if Chris Drury had the answer or whatever like I think they they know what the answer is or think they know what the answer is there we're not privy to the stuff behind the

scenes we've talked about it we talked about it at nauseam last last week about the three organizations that were struggling you know it was vancouver for one reason it's the rangers for others like you you're looking at at at teams that have been struggling and you're trying to find answers for in vancouver's a pretty darn good team they're just trying to get their act together and health wise as well say i think the rangers like you watch them you like there's a lot of good

players there but i guess a lot of underperformance yeah that's what it is under a lot of it is on a performance uh... yet you know we're in the second half of the season now so you're just you're running out of time and if you can keep waiting and waiting and waiting and the rangers they've they could they could still make the class the four points out but there's a lot of teams to get a jump over and there's other younger hungrier teams that are ahead of them right now

including Columbus and Ottawa and Detroit and now Montreal I mean that that's kind of where things stand in the East Brad Tritham spoke on Austin Matthews before the four nations face-off will come back and play that Matthew Shane coming up Chris Johnston still to come in our best bets as well. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. Alright, we sent out his brother out into the world with a pair of leaf tickets. You have to guess where he's hiding for your chance to win them. Four clues. This is the first one of the week.

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on friday with the correct location wins a pair tickets to see the lease take on the lightning again next monday finals brother brought to you by mccall pine ford in aurora our family the ford family in you i'd let's hear brad tree living uh... early this this morning on uh... the four nations face off the more austin Auston Matthews comes into play on that. Yeah when we get there, I mean again, there's nothing right at this point to make me worry about that, but we still are a month away or so, so with all the players you look at

where they're at at that time, but hopefully there's no setbacks and everything keeps moving forward alright kind of a non-answer answer but that's a very simple answer if something comes up right before the four nations he ain't going yeah exactly if he's clear to go then he goes yeah exactly if he can play for us then it'll be his decision if he wants to play for the American team and I think that's basically what tree living just said is you know if he's all good

and he's playing then he wants to go play he's gonna go play and that's how I've always read it like they're they're not gonna be they can't stop the guy so it's gonna be on Austin Matthews to make that call that simple and like you mentioned if there's no setbacks I mean mean, again, we don't know the nature of the injury, but if he continues to play, they're playing a lot of hockey right up to the Four Nations. I mean, he'll decide how he's feeling, plus they'll be monitoring what they're having to maintenance.

So I think it's no decision is made now because you're still a month away. That's why you're playing it by ear. Right. He wasn't going to make an announcement one way or the other today anyway. I mean, that's ultimately what that came down to. Yeah. You guys seen those McDonald's commercials with Matthews and McDavid? Yeah, I think they're good. You think they're good?

You don't like them? I mean, you know, the acting is just never going to be great. It's not great. Guys are insane, man. What acting is involved with saying I'm gonna go off the post bar down like it's not like they're in a Like they're in a okay, so like they got a script and they got a we there is a Allow to play them like are we allowed physically to play a nugget of a man? I don't know from the bridge thing. Here's why I think had to say you guys would comment on the acting was sitting on that talking about their sitting on the bench talking which is that the either one of them

it's their strength what i would say is put that beside wayne gretzky on young and restless and say that right now that way the grads wasn't exactly bringing home a an emmy i hear you know it was equally as painful that uh... this is wayne from our our Edmonton organization, right? Oh my god I mean listen, it's it's that's that must cause McDonald's a lot of money They have it but you could you can't get it anyone like I've never seen them do anything like that together

I know they've they've probably done like bio steel style. It's like there's Gretzky and Sunnys back in the day That wasn't great acting either yeah i guess you got a yeah this going to happen see i have a thing of my buddies i don't like my body like i try to tell my buddies to get mcdavid and math used to do they're not doing that for less than five hundred grand all they're making a fortune on your track that's mcdonald's that's a yeah i like that they're not doing that commercial for less than a

million or five hundred bucks but yes i think it's a lot or five hundred grand yeah i think i think it starts at that i don't be my assumption to yes and i i wonder why they can't wear their own jerseys but maybe mcdonald's isn't the official league yeah maybe that's the case uh... all right final hour coming up matthew shane will join us chris johnston as well overdrive continues to yes and then, soon to be up on TSN 2. TSN Plus is taking game day to a whole new level

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