OverDrive - OverDrive - January 15, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' losing streak, the defeat to the Stars, John Tavares' injury during the team's practice and the booing from the fans in the game against Dallas. TSN Maple Leafs Reporter Mark Masters joins to discuss the Maple Leafs receiving boos from the crowd, the injury concerns for John Tavares and Sheldon Keefe's return to Toronto.

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What's going on? How are we feeling today? Well, let me ask you this. Would you be a booing participant last night, Hazy B? Because I found it a little bit disgusting. Oh, you were disgusted by that you're disgusted by all hands having a reaction to and i can't get a good start for us if we're gonna have a

the island three hours a year and already i know what you're gonna say all you watch the new york yankees if they don't play well to get boot like you got a first-place team they've been on a heater is it really necessary to boo? Like why don't you do yourself a favor and take a little road trip with five of your buddies and go spend four or five days down in upstate New York there, watch the Sabres

and see what they do on a nightly. And maybe you'll be a little bit like more appreciative. Here's where I have a serious issue with that. You and I, the three of us, we've been doing this show for a long time. How many times have we come in here and said, that building is asleep. It's pathetic. No one has a reaction. Last night was one of those nights. But at least they booed. At least someone came alive. So you can't complain that the fans aren't in it, the building, the real fans aren't't in there and then people actually give you a reaction

because they've lost three in a row in reg and say well that's stupid don't give that reaction at that time I actually appreciate there was some life I got no problem with that why not they've lost three in a row in reg those are expensive tickets man those are two home games in a row where they've they've gotten kind of blown out right by the third period yes i don't know if they have what you want to do like that maybe that's appropriate i don't know i just i saw it on my command is a little bit i don't think it was that harsh though like a couple of boos and it was

a really that badly satire that come on i think it's a timing of a two didn't have a power play the atlantic the power play has a big on it i think it's situational of it too. Didn't they have a power play near the end? The power play hasn't been going. I think it's situational. That's where I'll go with it because I understand it. When you sit back from 85,000 feet and you look at the standings, you look at how the season's gone and some adversity and all that, I understand that. But in a vacuum of what they've done in the last week, they haven't played to their potential. They've lost three in a row.

There is some concern. There are guys that look good, and then there's guys that you're going, geez, that guy hasn't played well in a couple weeks now. And then you look at guys like, geez, Max Domi's got three goals in the season. You know what? Game of noodles, if you were in the crowd

and a guy beside you was going, boom, would you say? Yeah, I'd boo too, pal. Or would you say, hey hey man what are you doing? No I think what Brian's saying, and I was involved in a game last night I called the Sands Islander game, they got booed off the ice in New York. They suck, they suck. You gotta answer the question for me noodles, if you were just there by yourself as a fan

and the guy beside you was Would you say yeah? That's a little harsh you guys know my reaction to sitting in the stands with the fan I like to just sit and watch games I'm a pretty quiet would you say to the guy I would boo too or would you say that's a little hard on that Okay, I'm gonna say on that particular night i you can do because you know what they didn't play that well i'm i'm sorry you didn't talk to you play that well you thought i did not talk to hazy before

they have a lot of talk but i i i what i'm saying is when you voice your displeasure it's not just pleasure on the body of work over the full season. If Willie Nylander gives the puck away and they go in and score on a breakaway, you're going to be like, geez, Willie, what are you doing? But you still are very proud of him and say, geez, that's a great player and you're happy that you're cheering for him. He's on your team.

So there is context to it, O. I understand what you're saying. It's a bit rich. But you know what? One game can turn into two, can turn into into three and then all of a sudden you lose six of eight and you know what you're not first anymore and in points percentage like Florida's right there like that's where is it like point behind them now I'm late so it's it's it's not like it's hey they've been in first place forever and it's just it's a foregone conclusion that they're going to be first in the Atlantic keep

in mind there's you know Tampa has games in hand and and this're going to be first in the Atlantic. Keep in mind, Tampa has games in hand and this is going to be all lumped up. They have to pull their own weight. They haven't done it recently on the scoreboard and that's where I'm going, oh, I understand. I don't like people screaming and yelling boo and all that. This guy sent me a message and he's kind of all over the place. He said, maybe you should live a little and actually pay for some tickets and then see what fans have to go through with prices etc well they're really set your it's good give your small head a shake by the way

good work with the weight loss hey that's a compliment thanks all the like a lot of small small head like i okay i took that in a different way i didn't like i a it's compliment i mean it was a very superficial one yeah cuz everyone said i got a giant head in the past. Yeah, I give you cause you a fat head or something Then you're like that's unnecessary small head Just like booing do you have the right fat heads fine? Whatever come on. Just give me what okay because I've a small head to me is small brains tiny You know bird brain type of thing. So I understand the weight loss part.

I'm on the positive side of that, not the negative side. That's what I'm trying to allude to here. Yes, I'm taking it as a positive. I don't have an issue with some fans, if not all fans, trying to keep a standard here. And also, I think a jolt halfway through the season isn't a bad thing let's call what it is this season has been not necessarily like

uber entertaining you know it's it's just kind of been a formal season. Oh dude, don't even, if you're gonna go down if you're actually gonna say i like where they're at but it's not that entertaining that's a clown comment well, but no, i'm saying in terms of, give me memorable moments this year. Like last year, again, we've talked about it for years now.

It's all about the spring. It's all about what they do in the playoffs. And as a result, you know, you take some shine off the regular season. Last year, I would say Matthews chasing 69, changed that completely. It was an absolute blast to see him do that. You know, this year

they're playing well, like they're winning and all that, but it's not run and gun, it's not comebacks, it's not fights every night. Well, that's what you're going to get, man. You can't have your cake and eat it too. And there's a reason why there hasn't been outrageous point totals and hazy be chasing his dreams in the stands every night with fantastic things happening it's just about methodical plotting your way along and winning games and prepping yourselves for the playoff that's right

and how many that i get the last two or three years well here's an example here's a great example for you the florida panthers running gone in first place, president's trophy and what did they get out of that? They got absolutely cooked in the first round sweep by the Tampa Bay Lightning. As soon as they slowed things down the fans were like, nah they're winning, it's kind of, they went two

finals in a row and they won it. Yeah, listen, hopefully that's what happens here. Obviously we won't have that answer for another 35 games, right? We don't know what's gonna happen in the playoffs But we do have an idea of what their reputation is in the playoffs a lot of these guys And that's that's another thing about the underbelly of the fan base is that there's a lot of fans that still look at it Like okay, it's stale. It's still the five guys who have been here forever You can sell Barube Barube Barube as much as you want he doesn't play you know i also think that that is is leading to such a visceral reaction to

the power play struggling is that it's the it's the main guys the a list guys and it is not is not about hitting and fighting and playing through toughness and in plastic its power it's a skills competition and you can't do it. That's what's pissing Leaf fans off. They're like, wait a minute, Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, let me get this straight. The five guys who have been here forever who get paid the most, they're on the power plane, they can't do it and it's crushing this team right now? That's what's

driving people crazy. But a little bit of some boos every once in a while. I mean, come on, it's the national hockey league. They've lost three in a row a little jolts. It's a good thing And that's what I'm saying a little jolt a little change of pace snap out of it, and it's all good Yeah, I'll tell you what show up or throw waffles on the ice or something. That's not happening Okay, scattered booze who cares okay? Okay? You talked me into it being It's a positive. It's a positive. It's not a positive because they stink right now They're not playing that I will tell you one thing that scared the hell out of me Austin Matthews did some media last night and his first comment was

We need to fix our execution. I almost shook my head. I said no way dude Tavares. Yeah Teen Wolf man Yeah, he's like that's their go-to crutch It's like in broadcasting people have crutches where they just say the same thing all the time Execution we are he goes execution as soon as he said that I was like no way you did not just say that That's not about execution Well, I mean go to TANF right after I didn't hear Chris Did you hear Willie today do you want to hear Willie on? didn't hear Chris say anything last night but I did hear Willie today do you want to hear Willie on the reaction you know the fans and and this there were some scatter boos on Saturday against Vancouver

as well and again last night against Dallas here's what what William Nylander had to say about the fans reaction to three losses in a row here. Good teams find their way out of this and I mean it's only been three games so what's the big deal really? Like that I'm sorry. He loves a no shirt too. That's the same as Marner from a couple days ago. Like it's different context but like Mitch was like I liked it. Willie's like what's the big deal?

Here's my take on the view. How I would react to that comment in January is that these guys are so confident in the regular season because they should be. They are a regular season dynasty. Willie knows they're going to dig out of this. I bet they went to one. Yeah, they know it. They are so comfortable and they should be they are a regular season dynasty I guarantee you you'll never hear a comment like that in the playoffs after a loss or

You know God forbid three losses in a row if they were still somehow alive because they would be terrified in that moment Because they're not confident come playoff time, but in the regular season in January that is the viewpoint of Nylander and Matthews and Martin what's the big deal it's all good we'll figure this out and they are gonna figure that out in the regular season but I also will say quickly I know I'm going here because I've been watching people and listening to people and talking to people all day trying to equate the reaction to a three-game losing streak in January and trying to apply how they react to it to something being different in the spring, to me is a fool's game and I don't see any correlation.

Like if they come out and yell and scream and Barube benches the guys and, you know, Willie's a healthy scratch tomorrow, that doesn't mean they're going to win the Stanley Cup. I just, I don't see the correlation between them reacting one way in January and that means it's proving they figured out to count ability and how to win in the playoffs. Oh, you're damn right about one thing.

It's like you can talk about systems and approach and overall outlook and view and how the game's played and goaltending can come up, but it's gonna come down to those guys being go-to guys and scoring the majority of their goals and big goals, timely goals. That's yeah that is one thing that has not changed. New coach, new systems, new goalies, that is the one thing. Like Mike Johnson always says it, he's like guys I get what you're saying. They didn't show up, up they didn't compete like they got bullied out of the game against the Florida Panthers but at the end of the day they didn't score.

And that's an issue for them right now like they're not scoring goals they had a great start last night you know Austin that was a beauty great pass by Marner great shot and then that power play actually looked pretty good we're hitting some post right power play starting to man Did they have like a notion where they're like we've got to get this thing on net. Yes They were floating everything on net. Yeah, but now they're they're not scoring and you know Well, I think also I guess pretty significant. They're giving goals up to like that's the other thing too That's kind of first lost on the stand. That's awful. That can't go in. Well, you're right. Like there's you know, the goalie is not going to be perfect. They've had such great goal-tenning all season long.

And, you know, they are going to have dips too. But, you know, in the end, you know, you do miss McCabe. And, you know, you're you're trying to if you're not scoring, you better keep it out of your net. And, you know, that's what's happening some Vancouver finds what was it three last night Dallas? Yeah, I know there's empty netters and all that So I you know, it kind of skews the numbers but in the end, you know, they've given up Far too many goals that they should have they weren't giving put it this way

They weren't giving up those goals when they were on the five game winning streak, you know Now you're on a three game losing streak, you're not scoring and you're giving up goals. That's the way I see it. Yeah. I mean, it is a perfect storm of both things going wrong for them right now. And it's not going to get easier because you got Jersey here tomorrow, then you're at the Bell Center in Montreal on Saturday night, the Habs won again last night in Utah, and then you got Tampa here on Monday. As we talked about the other day, they still have to go through Western Canada, you still

got to go through California, you still got to go through Vegas and Colorado. These trips are still waiting for them. It's not going to be easy. It seems like stores are still a week away. They always seem to go back to back. Like those trips seem to be like you come back for one home game, then you go right back out for the other one. Yeah.

That's what the Habs are doing right now. That's the thing. Other teams have been having to do that. It'll be their turn soon. That's why you had to make some of the hay that you did this season, because when it does get tough and you maybe hit the ditch a little bit, that's where you've banked the points and you feel fine. You know I don't know this Tavares thing, was there any... So no update, yeah we got Mark Masters coming up. Mark will join us in 15.

Mark will set the scene on what happened last night, the mood in the rink, but also at practice today naturally they're practicing their power play and Tavares took a spill in the corner and it looked really awkward his foot got caught underneath them and he left the ice and he was laboring a little bit. Borubei didn't have an answer Borubei said you know he's going to sleep on it tonight and they're going to have an update tomorrow but it didn't look good I mean it looked pretty awkward the way he went down. We don't know. The Leafs, you know, they're gonna give an answer I guess tomorrow. We'll find out if he's...

He looks like he's skating off the ice. He's probably gonna be okay. Yeah, he's probably gonna be okay. I think he's fine, but he's a tough character. That power play, man, it is a menace right now. Whether it's during the game or practice, it's taking people out. It's ripping souls away people hate that power play It is a mess right? I wouldn't have had anybody on the ice today. I think they're tired I got to be honest with you. I think they're tired, and I know there's some people that don't believe I know that That line did not go over well to world juniors with the team not practicing That was crazy. That is a date is a dave cameron type of approach i just

didn't understand it was like sure that why didn't you practice he was like we're exhausted it's like the kids have been there since the seven years old right those guys could be could run a marathon and go out and play junior hockey there's guys who didn't sleep they would eat burgers for game i used to go to wendy's when he's out on guelph there's guys who didn't sleep they would eat burgers for game i still had these when the outbound well sports three goals it's like what are you talking about this is a lot of it is it's a sanity that they're tired

yes no seventeen-year-old is tired at last like a way by i would keep him off the ice i would just be like don't show up until the park drops and thursday night against your old coach well that's it man. You got Jersey tomorrow. You got Jake Allen coming up just after five o'clock. We'll talk to Jake.

Get his take on how it's been going in Jersey. What he thinks of Sheldon Keefe. The Devils are a good team. Devils are a good team. Let's not forget that Dallas is a pretty darn good team too. Yeah they are. Dallas look really good. They're impressive.

They're a good team. What if they won eight of their last nine noodles? Like they're on fire right now. Yeah. You know, Ottawa got them in the back to back, but outside of that, like they are, you know what they are? They're just tight. Like their systems are tight. They know how they want to play. Their goaltending is good. They've got skill on the back end. Their forwards, they've got a good the back end. They're forwards. They've got a good balance of young and old. I was talking about it. I mean, that Matt Deshane comes on our show and then he starts doing stuff like that last night.

That was a great goal. It was a beautiful goal. Through the legs. That was a great goal. I'll be honest. That was a really nice goal. But they've got a nice mix. Dallas is no joke. They're a serious team. I think they're a cup contender. I think the West has got four or five of them. The East has four or five of them too. But Dallas is no joke.

They're a serious team. I thought the Leafs were going to get them. Like early on that top line, even though Dallas turned that puck over on the Matthews goal, Matthews, his first shift, he had a big contact. He has a big contact in the corner, good hit. You know, he seemed to be jumping, seemed to be buzzing. He scores, I'm like, okay, maybe they're just, you know, they're going to have a night where

it's a 5-2 and then Dallas just shrunk the game and the Leafs kind of, I don't know, they just couldn't push through. Well, that's the, and that is the concern, whether it is tie or whatever, is again, we're talking about the playoffs and everything's about a precursor for that That's what it felt like last night. It shrunk and the best players couldn't break through it Like they just no one could they're not getting any any Offense from anybody at this point. They have nothing going on. They need to find like two things They need to find like a line and a deep airing a goalie and a power play

Like they need two things out of everything to show up for them to have a chance. Power play would go a long way. Like that's long overdue for them to rip home some power play goals. And you're right, get one line cooking where you can throw them over the boards and you know what's coming.

And at this point they don't have it. And according to the lines of practice, and we're gonna catch up with Mark in a moment, it doesn't appear as if rubies changing much you know like steven lorenzo lasted what nine minutes last night barely played whatever the hell that was uh... and now knives i think is back with them in the top line in the land

is going to be with the barson they're just gonna circle back where they've been and just kinda waited out uh... so come back and and we'll catch up with mark will play craig berube's comments on on the reaction from the crowd last night tf the game with jersey in town tomorrow a couple games in the n.h.l. tonight including edmonton minnesota which is obviously a big game and uh... we got jake allen coming up to staff the five jerry's percentages in

just over and our overdrive continues t sSN 1050 and on TSN4. Overdrive continues powered by Fanduil bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Jake Allen will join us just after 5 o'clock Jerry's percentages at 530 Mark Masters coming up here in a few moments couple games in the NHL the Raptors are at home They're a fourteen and a half point underdog at home to the Celtics tonight Two touchdowns at home I mean the sending camps so but Hayes don't don't don't say it because I think opening night you're like, that spread's too big at home

and they got crushed. They did. They did. Listen, I'm not saying anything, man. They played Boston two weeks ago. They lost by 50. I wouldn't take the points tonight. Did you say 50?

Yeah, it was 54, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. The most ever. 54 points. It was historic, man. It was historic. say fifty yeah fifty four wasn't it yeah it was a host ever fifty four points it was historic man it was historic it was I'm glad I was at the world you're at the world juniors because I came on I can't remember which day it was I came on to gloat about hazen bro because Al's brother was on with Feshtruck and I came on to talk to them and the rappers had played an afternoon game that day I guess it

Was probably on probably a New Year's Eve. I think it was and they lost by 54 I believe that day which is just great. I was like that's are you booing 54? Let me ask you that no, I'm in my car, dude. Okay, that's a bit gets to 30 It's silence cuz no it's crickets. Actually, that's a better guess. A 30 silence. It's silence because no it's crickets actually like there's nobody there. I actually worked the next day with the Raptors stats guy Johnny rusted and he was like, man, it's like he's a very level headed guy. He just is like, stuff like that. I can't remember. He said it wasn't a guy doesn't it get goofy at that 40 like people start cheering for the other team and stuff like that. Like, It's tough. I can't remember. Doesn't it get goofy at 40?

People start cheering for the other team and stuff like that? There's no fight. Remember in hockey, the scorer would get lopsided, there would be a brawl, there would be something. That doesn't happen in basketball. No, you just play it out, man. Play it out. Get the bench out there, guys try to put... What is the best?

It might have to take your licks. Yeah, when the young guys get out there and then they stop playing the system and they just start jacking shots back it's worse and that everyone's embarrassed and uh... so yeah i would i would say fifty plus you're in your car but it probably is worse there's just no reaction like if there's just nothing

you know like you're getting embarrassed your awful everyone is just standing there and saying nothing that's probably where you probably prefer some booze it would fill in some of the space yeah like just yeah add some sort of energy into the building but yeah the Leafs got booed a little bit on Saturday at home against Vancouver and they got booed last night and here's what Craig Barube had to say about that Everywhere they do it in every ring don't they I mean it's part of the game You know they pay good money and they come to see hockey they want to see us win So that's you know, that's the way it goes. I like that answer bang on

That's that's the answer right there go say that to willy go tell Marner that that's what it is like a lot of times there's simple answer it's like Todd McClellan talking about Justin Hall last night that's that was I was hoping we had that sound because that was wild it was straight up he's like the guy had a terrible night what do you want me to do and I will be talking to him about it tomorrow this go ahead play this one this is a simple approach to this instead of going around and around and talking about stupid nonsense it's just getting right to it

it hurts but here's top mcclellan i don't think we saw justin hall and after the federal that just something a little bit of a message after the term well sending a message he sent himself a message. And I think that's pretty obvious. You can march him in here. I'm not going to sit up here and BS Worm.

He had a terrible night. And that's just the way it is. So whether he got on in the last five minutes or not, it really doesn't matter. He knows he can play better. And I'm telling you before I'm going to tell him, but I am going to tell him that tomorrow. That's up to him to fix. I know he's a better player than that.

Okay. I like that. See, this is my confusion, okay? The Red Wings have won, what, seven in a row? Yeah, eight of nine. Eight of nine on fire. We love that the coach is like, like he's terrible he was awful tonight the leaves they get booed by a few people and it's like how could you boo

what are we doing why are we but like now i don't like there's a connection there it's like be honest say what you gotta say it's it's it this is the pros man is the national hockey league in justin i't watching that game last night they obviously lost but they've been read hot recently time i think was i don't know i obviously i'm with the fans usually i'm part of lease nation but it was like first place to

burn them off the ice i don't know about that but i understand the context that this is not like the sabers get booed where it's like, what are you guys doing? You're the worst team in the league and that's a message to management and ownership and everything It is obviously different here with the Leafs, but you know, I think having high expectations It's good like they got a hold on to this top seed man. Like you you don't want to you don't want to slip Play in Tampa or something the first round like imagine imagine you're going down to Tampa for game one. That's nightmare fuel. Exactly.

So figure it out here and get going again. You know, like you got to hold on to the division because the other teams aren't reaching out to grab it. Florida's been inconsistent. Tampa's been inconsistent. Boston. Like if the Leafs just put the pedal to the metal, they could win this division by 10 points.

They're not going to, but they could. Like division by ten points but not going to but they could but look at one of the pay they don't slow down washington's got a huge huge advantage now in the metro i decided i'd plug in along yeah i i mean it's going to be i've i've said it all along and going to be consistent with it i think the land that is going to be an absolute dogfight right to the end well you know yes i think i hear you

do those but it doesn Noodles, but if the Leafs played better and more consistently, easier said than done, I get it. Well, they're saying that in Tampa, and they're saying that in Florida, they're saying that in Boston. Of course, obviously. And all those teams are built exactly like the Leafs. Sure. One of them can step up, but my point is you don't need 120 points to win the division this

year. That's what I'm trying to say. Like these guys, they're on pace for like 105. It's going to be. I think that's Jerry's percentage, or that should be on your list or something. Like to me, I think what wins this division is something 105, 103, like in that range.

I don't think it's going to be 110 or 112. It may not be. I think it's's gonna be a lot more bunched up Like I think it's gonna be right down to the end, you know scheduling head-to-head all of that type of stuff I do believe the Leafs play Tampa late in the season. Yeah, well, they still play them all a few times I believe you get Florida more you got Boston. Yeah Here's Mark Masters are maple leaf reporter mark uh... the group the booze last night like how how many are we talking like visit that significant if you're leaving the building would you even of known that

it was happening and really and not going uh... it was that i thought it was louder on saturday which may when they can't remember out your crowd they got they got shut out in that game but i didn't noticeable I thought it was louder on Saturday, which would make sense, a bit of a rowdier crowd, they got shut out in that game. But I think noticeable to the point where players were getting asked about it after the game and they weren't saying, like, what are you talking about?

I didn't hear it. They heard it. So it was at least noticeable to them for sure. Certainly resonated in that way. And the reaction, I mean, that's kind of been the role that I feel like the way and the reaction i mean it that's kind of in the role that i feel like the media and the fans have been playing this week is reacting to postgame commentary that's what this week is defined by mitch marner on saturday

and you know borough bay after the game last night willy today what what do you make of how the beliefs you know as a as a whole are kind of approaching the way the fans are reacting to the recent play of how the beliefs as a whole are kind of approaching the way the fans are reacting to the recent play? Yeah, I think the fan reaction is just a lot of familiar things, right? You know, a dip in play, the power play struggling, the scoring going away in the middle of the season, kind of the dog days not putting together a chance to grab hold of the division as you

guys are talking about. In terms of the players, I mean I think they're probably looking at it and in terms of the system that Rubé's got them playing, which is you know obviously they want to be really tight defensively, they don't feel like they're giving up a lot and you know they've reiterated today that you know challenges have not been going their way. Rubé's pushing them to make their own luck here but from the player perspective, from the the team perspective They don't think these last couple of games have been as bad as maybe it's looked at times It's maybe the score is locked as maybe as some of the fans think And the fans are just kind of sitting there and saying man

It looks like a similar movie that we've seen in the past So I think that's where you're seeing some of the the frustration creep in Mark what about some of the injuries we saw John Tavares, you knowavares limp off. We're looking for an update to maybe tomorrow. Even a guy like Stolarz, any type of news? Is there light at the end of the tunnel for a guy like that? So Tavares, that was a bit of a scary moment. Nylander called it scary. He said he was scared to see that because Tavares doesn't usually leave like I can't recall Tavares leaving a practice like that and just the way his legs kind

of split with that awkward collision with Chris Tanev didn't did not look great we'll see where you know if we will get an update tomorrow it happened right at the end of practice so you know we didn't get a chance to see how they're gonna adjust the lines or anything like that if the bars misses time so fingers crossed on that front Jake McCabe full participant today gated on a regular pair with Chris Tanna if he said afterwards he's good to go in he it'll be a coach's decision Barube says that they'll see how he's filling in the morning you imagine they'll be pretty careful considering this is the

second similar type injury in a row for him. As for Stolarz, I haven't seen him on the ice, but I did see him on the glass right before practice just watching, watching the practice. So nothing really big or development on the Stolarz front there. Mark, I haven't really heard a coach or a player talk about this, but I think it's a factor. And obviously you don't want to bring up excuses, but played a like a ton of hockey like do you think fatigue is kind of set in here even watching them play it's like they don't really have a ton of juice they don't have that you know second chance offensive opportunities because it just seems like they have no gas. Yeah I mean we're in the dog days here and that's Rubé was talking about that today

he said it's a second and third effort league and we haven't had those second and third efforts and it's tough this time of year. He talked about life and energy being missing on Saturday. I mean if any team should have been tired on Saturday it should have been the Canucks who had played the night before and not been able to travel in until the day of the game arriving you know at 2 o'clock to their hotel according to Rick Tauke. And maybe that was part of the booze that we heard on Saturday as the fans knew the storyline. They knew that Kanuk had lost forms, like in a row had been struggling and they come in there and shut out the Leafs on a Saturday night. So I'm sure that maybe plays into the Saturday

crowd at least. But yeah, they've looked a little fatigued at times for sure. I mean that's just the nature of the schedule and every team I think is grinding through their own tough hardships in the schedule just with the four nations this year. So I don't know if you want to make it too much of an excuse, it just might be the reality of it on some nights for the Leafs this season. With Mark Masters, our Maple Leafs report a Leafs Devils tomorrow. Are you looking forward to seeing Sheldon Keefe?

I know you missed him down in Jersey because you were doing the World Juniors at that point. What's your first question for Keefe tomorrow? Yeah, I remember Sheldon was on your show and you guys were talking about how he was going to see me and I was yelling at my radio. But no, I'm on my way to Ottawa and then I ended up watching his interview with Claire Hanna from Pearson while delayed trying to get to Ottawa. But what's my first question for Sheldon? I think just being back in the building, like right, like they played the Leafs twice but he hasn't come back obviously and I think that that will be an interesting dynamic. I imagine they're gonna recognize him on the scoreboard. I mean you know he had a good

run, he's the winningest head coach in regular season history for the Leafs and he brought an AHL title to the city with the Toronto Marlies and he's a local product from Branson and you know he went out on a classy note with that video I imagine they'll recognize him and give him a warm ovation I think he'll get I think he'll get a nice cheer tomorrow night if they do that so I just kind of curious where his mind's at walking into that building tomorrow seeing what he said last time the best goal-tending in the league that beat him

with solar so we'll see who the Leafs start tomorrow and i'll be curious to see how they finally, how he wants his team to play because they haven't been able to solve the Leafs in two games this season Masters in all the interviews you did with Keith, did he ever say to you before you started rolling, like, I'm in no mood for this today, don't even think about asking me certain things, or like I'm hungover and I don't want to deal with you, so just make this quick? No, never. It was always pretty similar.

There wasn't a lot of small talk. There's not a lot of small talk with Barubei either. Babcock was like mind games all the time, right? Like he'd come out and say, are you going to screw this one up today or what's going on? And if it wasn't the shoes, it was why I left my wife in the cattle car on a plate. Like it was always something with him. You'd always have something to say before the interview started. So Sheldon was straight up pretty much. And that I usually take my cues from the guy you're going to interview to see what kind of

The mood they're in but it was always pretty pretty straightforward And I think he always that's what we appreciate in Toronto He always kind of was one he felt like you know as a local guy He wanted to really let the fan base know what was going on, so I appreciated that but there was no he was never like Let's just get this over with or anything like that I actually think he kind of like that to talk it out a lot of the time that was just my sense of them here

yeah he was always willing to talk for the most part wasn't it like sheldon you know and and i think he's handled his exit very very well like it the video he shot he said it today is like you know i'd i'd get the job done we didn't get the job done changes happen it's easier for him to say that because he got right back on the saddle and he's got a good team in New Jersey and you know a good setup there and Listen, he had a long run between the Marlies and the Maple Leafs How many how many first-time coaches in the NHL get thrown into the the NHL with the Maple Leafs?

you know as their first job like that that was a You know a big opportunity for him and and he certainly sees that in terms of i think handling himself in terms of the way that the team played at times certainly through the regular season hey he's on record it's he's the guy one of one one around the last one before it was pat quinn like he'd be was a coach of the team here that actually won around unity

and appreciate like they could tell how badly he wanted it in hell you know you could be when he had frustrated after games like i told me that i got let's just say i think he's reaction after a lot like saturday against the connoisseur even black night i think would have been different that craig brubay uh... you know shelton was a little hot we got the putting their i don't think we've seen

that really from brubay much this year um he's been pretty balanced when he's come come out to the podium anyway he got Keith in trouble you know a few times in Toronto but I think the fans appreciated that they they sensed how badly he wanted how frustrated he was at time um and I think he handled it well you're right like it's not an easy spot to get thrown into you come in you're a place a a guy who's a Stanley Cup winning coach, a couple gold

medals, you know, you come in, the expectations are high right off the bat. You know, you're unproven at that level. You have all these big personalities and stars in the league. And I think just going around and talking to people around the league, you know, there's a sentiment that he handled everything really, really well. And obviously he's off to a good start in New Jersey. So we'll see where things go. The Leafs and the Devils are pretty close, kind of in the standings here.

And we'll see if Keith can find a way to get his team a victory tomorrow night. I thought he handled things really well. And you know, especially down the stretch last year, I thought he was more honest. Like he shot from the hip. You know, he just seemed like he was kind of more comfortable in his own skin and realize it was kind of all or nothing And I'm just gonna speak my mind Where I wanted to go Masters is the difference between you know Mitch Marner and Chris Tanev's Interviews you know I don't know if you were front row to them and right in the mix there

But what do you make of you know I guess even differing opinions of how the players viewed certain games? What's your reaction when you're in the scrum to that? Yeah, well, Marner was the first one to talk to us. Just the way he said it, we talked about the boos coming and I wondered if that kind of influenced him and obviously he was coming off the minus six in Raleigh and I'm sure you know Minus six kind of jumps off the page I don't think he was quite as bad as minus six would suggest in that game against the Hurricanes But you know you're coming off that performance probably took some heat probably sense that and then you know

The team loses by shut out you get booed off What boot off the ice in that game and you're sitting there thinking guys we're in first place it's not as bad. So that was his and Tanev that's just kind of those are just the two personalities right that's kind of how Marner is and Tanev is kind of like that after a bad loss. That's what he said a couple of times. He just calls it the way he sees it and they're coming from different backgrounds of course one is a hardnosed defensively, the other is a top-line winger. It is jarring, I will say that, when you're going through the scrums and you kind of sit down afterwards, you're like, how does this team feel about this game? We usually don't hear that. They talked about being disconnected on the ice and there was a bit of a disconnect that

felt like off the ice in those in the strums afterwards felt uh... yeah it did they did pop for a lot of it in the media were kind of look at each other after the the media bill wrapped up into that was that was interesting with mark masters uh... mark i want you to put your tennis hat on here for a moment because uh... the australian open of course is underway right the first slam of the year and few canadians still make in the way through lay low

big big comeback victory last night she's through uh... chapel still kicking around uh... dental medvedev is one of the great you know on court quotes and the guy he basically just shoot from the head he said this i believe it was yesterday and i'm curious if you can attest to this is the lifestyle of like high-end players

to work is what medvedev had to say about beating his opponent yesterday these kids coming through they did they'll be much ready on that from the start and not every match because i was just matches and i didn't see this level so i was surprised but Yeah, I mean he plays like this every match. His life can be good money, girls, casino, whatever If he plays like this every match if he doesn't then he's not gonna have it maybe maybe maybe not in tennis

He's gonna make it otherwise, but yeah, I wish I wish he can play like this every match in tennis, he's gonna make it otherwise. But yeah, I wish he can play like this every match. Money, girls, casino. Is that how you live when you're covering tennis or what, Mark? Yeah, I mean, not me, but it sounds like a very interesting, fun life there. Isn't Medvedev great? He's an easy guy to cheer for. Awesome. Just because of the, you know, he's a great personality you know on the court so that yeah he's he's must like must watch a lot of times and much must listen to when he's in the new in the news conference room or on the court like that's yeah i haven't heard i you know that is not my certainly not during grand slam maybe nick curio I think Nick Curio's once

talked to winning a tournament in Acapulco and being out every night during that week and like you see him the other day he was just standing at the baseline and he was just backhanding shots and he was between the legs he is outrageous that guy yeah yeah he's at home down there too right like it's very very relaxed but uh... yeah yeah we'll see what comes of the mark i'm at uh... enjoy yourself

enjoy say hi to show them for some more night as well with the against them i was wondering if you had a message for john if we're sitting beside each other here at the least practice well i say by messages i see johnson off that to face. I save my messages when he's on the show. You're playing Battleship. Yeah, exactly. What are you guys playing down there? Any cool games that you guys have cooking

or what? We're not playing Battleship. We're not playing Trivia. We're sitting with a... we're very... looking very soft here with a big warm heater beside us as we type clackity clack away here trying to make sense of the latest uh... coming to going to your butt yeah we're aware of reminiscing about team course the in the days were together on that on the tribute the yet you think we need a rematch writing any any time you're ready man all i will will bring it back we we started crystal of the belts of the

care and was he came in but they cheat so that they don't clearly cheer were ready anytime and i know what he does friday you want to party friday let's go here on friday john yeah should we get back together that would be the radio event of the year uh... really when they handle us is what you're not that's probably not uh... yeah i listen friday i think the practice they look they're flying to montreal so we'll be here but i'd i'd

good old scoot down they are not as big as i was i don't want to force you guys that you sound very it's only if you really want to engage let's all i know i want to set up a date works for everybody i don't want any excuse well alright team course he was the right test is coming back i cannot wait for that i was gonna be outstanding i'm arctic i don't think it's for get shelving keith said it's on the house and uh... with the answer outstanding. All right, Mark, say hi to Jonas, I guess. Forget Sheldon Keefe. Say hi to Jonas for us and we'll do it again soon.

All right. Thanks, guys. There's Mark Masters, our Maple Leaf reporter. Yeah, I like that, man. Money, girls and casinos. If you play well on tour. It's like I watch this guy. He basically said this guy, I've watched him, he stinks. He just played really well one game. You want to play like that? Go ahead. You can make a bunch of money. You want to play like you have been you can make a bunch of money i don't know if you want to play like you have been playing now you do it somewhere else like it was he was just shoot from the head such a

i don't know if they're trying to say you i guess i was but not tennis yeah not planned like he usually does that there are still the guy didn't win the match kiss medvedev obviously found a way to win it yeah but uh... so yes that's pretty good, man. Money girls in casino. I love how the casino sneaks in there.

Like, where does the casino come into play when you're on the road? But I guess Medvedev's into that kind of thing. So Jake Allen of the New Jersey Devils in 20 minutes. Jerry's percentages still to come as well. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on the TSN app. podcast to crush your resolutions from wellness finances travel and more new year new you explore it all at iHeartRadio.ca and on the free iHeartRadio app

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just never know all right Raptors in action Leafs in action tomorrow with Jersey in town getting closer to the divisional round in the NFL as well. Mike Golic will join us later this afternoon. He's a former Notre Dame fighting Irish too. He got Notre Dame versus Ohio State national championship game on Monday. So a lot of good football still to come. And we'll get into this Tristan Jarre story as well, where he's been placed on waivers by the Penguins. He's got this year three more at 5.3 million per on his contract. And it sounds like Dubas has had enough. Dubas signed him.

One of the first things he did when he got there was sign this guy. And it hasn't gone well for him. It hasn't worked out. I like him as a goalie. I just, if he hasn't played well, that team stinks defensively. Like they've got a lot. Like Eric Carlson I worry about him like you I don't know if you've watched pit play at all

like there's some times where they rely on him for some stuff and he's just I Don't know. He's a very casual guys norris's got his money He's doing his thing man The thing is is when you're casual and it doesn't go well people get pissed right because they think you don't care And he almost takes it to the next level where it's like yeah, watch me try that like he's Watch this it's not it's not the right way to go out for that guy Just go down as one of the greatest defenseman ever it's cut the crap and playing like that He's too good a player man. Yes well

Yeah, we'll get it We'll get into it in the next hour Darren Drager more on that as well later this afternoon. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050 and on the TSN app.