OverDrive - OverDrive - January 20, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' victory against the Canadiens, scoring seven consecutive goals in the game, the team's matchup against the Lightning and the Blue Jays' signing of Anthony Santander. They also dive into the Bills' victory against the Ravens, Connor McDavid's cross-check on Conor Garland, the possible suspension length and Roki Sasaki signing with the Dodgers.

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Details at iHeartRadio.ca. This Hour of Overdrive is powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Alright, here we go, Overdrive, off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker and up on TSN4, Brian Hasey, Odog, Jeff O'Neil, Jamie Noodles, McLennan. What's up?

How we feeling on this beautiful polar vortex Monday? Hasey, I gotta give you credit. I think we're all growns up because there was a phone call made on Saturday night and in the past we would have been all negative after a three nothing happy Tom Lee but this time I called you and you said all they need is one and they'll keep trucking. Is that what you said? Absolutely not. I'm sure that's what I said after that first period on Saturday. Noodles, we had a combo after one and I think we basically ripped every guy in

the team and we were so mad and then the score ended up seven to three and we didn't even have a follow-up combo. Crazy man like we got another one tonight with Tampa in town we'll talk about it it, right? The Jays are active There's a lot to get to but that game on Saturday. We hyped that game up more than any regular season game I can think of in a long time. There was some juice in the air Started off with like Ottawa Boston and you're like, okay this flip from dog days of the season to The second half push where guys know what's serious guys know they're close in the standings it was Toronto and Montreal and you just kind

of felt something absolutely and like Barube said it I believe today right like Craig Barube was evaluating the game and and he admitted he's like it wasn't just any other game it was different because it was Leafs Habs Saturday night and it meant something and the Habs were you know pushing for the playoffs and the Leafs were obviously in the position that they're in and It's one of those scenarios where if you didn't see any of the game And you just looked at the game sheet afterwards you'd say wow the Leafs just destroyed them 7-3 how embarrassing for Montreal but I said to myself in the first period if you brought someone that had no idea

Myself in the first period if you brought someone that had no idea about hockey and you said during the first period Who's in first place and who's kind of scratching for you would have said Montreal? Absolutely the Habs the first period They were so good Joseph Wall made three or four stops that were like ten Bellers They could have been five nothing six nothing and then to the credit of the maple leaves it did flip and all the sudden they started chipping away they didn't quit on it i thought the second half of the game clearly they were the better team

and uh... yet really i thought wall was great i thought the two goalies determined how that game played out more than anyone i thought her percent right monitor was a good in wall was very good i agree i mean yes montreal had to push early on and i think you know i don't like i'd hear you're being facetious but i thought the same thing after three nothing unlike if they leave show up and

get one we've got a game here like that's the way i felt anyways but wall was a little you have to understand we did not have that kind of that was not by any, that was a joke. I'm joking. Yeah. I know. I'm joking too. But what I thought it because watching it, yes, Montreal was all over them.

The Leafs looked, they were back on their heels. They looked like, but they just didn't, they didn't have it. They didn't have it early on. And then they started to flex. And I thought it was a tale of two goaltenders. Joseph Wall, you know, Brian, you tweeted it like it was a tale of two goaltenders Joseph wall You know Brian you tweeted it like it's a 7-3 win He's got to be one of the stars like I thought he was funny

I thought he was great and and got you know what he got a few bounces But he also made unbelievable saves that I love this positioning I love this boys and in the other end I I thought that's one of the worst Games I've seen Montembeball play in a long time. And there were great plays by the Leafs. Willie Nylander, but like even early in the third period, Nylander makes that move. Montalball, he's in the corner. He was in the fifth row, man.

It was a great move and Willie deserves the love for it, but Montalball usually uses edge to try and put back. He slid in the corner. It was like, okay, check please. the same thing in the matthews goal that can't like that's austin matthews i get it that's a seventy goals for it's it's ten feet inside the blue line like you can't get the middle of the net those are those are bad goals i thought it was a tale of two goaltenders and it was a thoroughly attending i mean it was a great you know that was the

beauty of it was a weird games of fun fun game when you're and by the way i sent out the most sarcastic tweet of all time i said i never care who wins and loses i just like an entertaining game and then i followed it up with rabia i got so many people that were mad at me because they said how can you not care i was like of course i care the right team went into Montreal and they won the game I care a lot in that game yeah but when it was three nothing I was looking for somebody because that's when everybody starts looking around to start watching okay what do you got when it's three nothing I thought William Nylander was unbelievable on Saturday

night unbelievable yeah he was dancing That goal where he just slapped Hudson to the side and said, watch this, like that was a big boy play. That was also a rude awakening for Lane Hudson on Saturday night. He's been outstanding this year. He got danced by Homburg the one time. He got torched, man. I think he was on for the Matthews goal. He was basically at the hash marks.

Yeah, and one of them was an empty netter, which is deceptive, but he that was Willie William Nylander nine years in the league Superstar who just said basically that was like a punter trying to trying to block or trying to tackle Derek Henry Like that's what that looked like Hudson was trying to keep up with him and push him and Willie J Basically said go stand over there was a stiff arm. There was a hockey stiff arm. Yeah it was a stiff arm. It was Derrick Henry on one of the Gramatica brothers and he just he completely punked Lane Hudson and then he punked Montembeau and that was the game at that point because once Willie makes it 4-3 the whole crowd flips. That was the amazing thing about the Bell Center. I was surprised and again I'm in Toronto

so it's not an exact science it felt like there were thousands of Leaf fans there and I know there were because they were showing them but there had to have been there had to have been the the noise coming out of the Bell Center after the first period was electric naturally and it should have been Saturday night Leafs are in town Habs are on fire they're up three nothing and the Habs deserved to be up three now. They looked unbelievable the Leafs I think were credited with five or six shots in the first period I didn't remember them touching the puck that many times like it wasn't even close in the first period easily

And then by the third it had completely flipped or all you saw and all you heard were Leaf fans And the Habs fans were basically like check, please I'm out of here. I got to get out because this is getting this is flipped so drastically Where it was three nothing an hour and 20 minutes ago real time and now it's seven three and Lee found that's allowed I got noxious. It to that degree crazy is not common You never see ever happens usually a team might squeak back and win it no over time not like that now that was a collapse complete was a collapse yes i thought it was a collapse because to me and listen you know what both teams deserve credit to where to be where they are in the standings and work

hard montreal's really pushed it had a you know a great run you can see there's some frameworks of really nice players there and you know what they were playing with a lot of confidence and you know line is a great story what he's got ten or eleven now or the or two win a last night man they like to beat the Rangers last night and that's the one thing I will say too I watched last night's game because I'm doing the Rangers game but I watched last night's game to see if Montreal, if that popped their balloon or would they respond? And they found a way to respond last night, which I thought was impressive. Because it is, it's a ballsy comeback game.

You're right. But go back to Saturday night, you know, there were some great plays, you can see, and then, you know, veteran players, stronger players, certain players took over that game and Montreal didn't have an answer again you know monta ball makes two or three saves on goals that i thought that he at least give himself a chance on maybe the games not seventy three maybe that's up five three or four three or whatever you know i i'm wall conversely wall makes

it a couple unbelievable saves like if that goes for nothing i don't think we're talking about a seven three when i don't think we're talking about a 7-3 win no if they score yeah I mean that seems insurmountable I mean obviously three nothing is equal it's a massive mountain to climb and the Leafs did climb it but I think there's something to that if it's four nothing five nothing what have you or if they just the Habs come out in the third period and don't allow Willie to do what he did on the first shift and

immediately allow the crowd to come alive and the Leafs officially are back into it. But yeah there was a lot that came out of that game and again credit Montreal because they got back on the saddle last night like at home. Linae wins it in overtime they played really really well and we'll see what the Habs have going forward. I mean they're in the hunt you know it's Ottawa, Boston, Columbus, Montreal. Like it's gonna be a race down the stretch and we'll see who gets in. But as for the Leafs, I mean, that was big

the last two games because they had slid before that. They had lost three in a row in regulation. You beat Jersey in very similar fashion, right? Not as extreme, but you're down at times in the third period, you stay on it. You get the big boys come alive. You to overtime you win it and then we saw what happened on Saturday and all of a sudden you know whatever was happening before this two-game winning streak is irrelevant you know and I got Tampa in

town last night and Tampa's real in a little bit you know they've been up and down you got Johansson starting for Tampa you got Wall and net his 25th start of the year which is a career high for him and I love that he's going right back in at home against a divisional game that's weird Vasilevsky wouldn't be playing they're playing a Montreal tomorrow and he's going tomorrow I guess that's what it sounds like anyway I mean obviously back-to-back but I'm with you I don't know why you wouldn't play your best goal I just always remember Tampa in

Toronto Vasilevsky's in that, Cooper was getting kind of grilled about that and he just he said this is this the plan I don't know he kind of danced around it and said we're managing over 82 games and they're going with Johansson tonight and Vasilevsky in Montreal But yeah, you got a big one tonight. You got a chance to keep kind of pushing pushing forward if you release because Tampa's got three games in hand and there's seven points behind you do the math it's a big four point game big four point game tonight because you you're right like you can

you could separate or you you know you're right back in there you know tampa's a tampa's a team that is you know they're not montreal they're a better team the montreal but that being said you've got a player game monday night sometimes a little bit sleepy after big Saturday night games. Let's see if they have a response type of thing because that's, you know, the schedule doesn't stop. Playing every second day, it sounds like.

I found it fascinating, Jamie, how it went from, I think last 10 days, I've said dog days of season three or four times, and then all of a sudden it seemed like that second level of the season, there's always the first level of intensity, or four times and then all of a sudden it seemed like that second level of the season. There's always the first level of intensity, the second and then the third is the playoffs. There might be one more in there but it seemed like everything kicked in at once where like Sheldon Keefe hates his devils right now. The Sens got a gritty win against the Bruins. You could tell that game had some juice to it.

Yeah, well you're starting to see you know the teams know the points are so important right like you're you're well you're into the second half now and I think it's a combination of a couple of different things that I've noticed the last few days there have been crazy lead changes you know a lot more goals recently for the Leafs anyway and there's fights and that goes a long way too the bigger personalities you know like we saw Reeves and Jack guy on Saturday night we'll get to that momentarily Jack guy and Rempy went last night what was a crazy fight like just two monsters going at it and Jack guy

got him and I could understand where Jack guy was going we talked about this after the first like I got it on Saturday it's three nothing the building's going nuts you don't need to quiet them down with taking on Reeves yeah there is an element of when you're this prop might be an example of you know the modern era and I'm sure there are examples of this happening back in the 80s and 90s but how often did we used to hear heavyweight say you know I appreciated that that other heavyweight gave me a go when I asked him to go you know like Bob Probert would say that all the time Ty Domi it was like it was it's my turn to go even regardless of the scoreboard we're going and Jack I had a

chance and he didn't take it well I don't mind that because it's three nothing I know that I want to get my head caved in possibly by this guy and I heard Knuckles Nylund say this he said That's fine. You don't want to take the fight But you want to start shooing him away like he's some kind of stray cat and pointing at the scorecard That one's gonna hurt that goes too far. You look stupid. You look stupid I didn't like just ignore him and act like he's not there You don't have to shoo him away like the cat especially considering who he is like reasons were in the belt for like twelve years

there's only one way that that turns out well if you win the game if you lose in the fashion that they did you look like a dumb that's a great point yeah that's great point that that's the problem i had with it they could have a conversation saying you know what not right now he but you know what jack i wanted everybody did he wanted everybody to see, I'm doing this because it's three nothing, pointed to scoreboard, like it's putting a show on. Instead of just going, no, I'm not gonna fight you right now,

why would I type of thing. That's a big boy conversation, tough guys have it all the time. To me, I agree, it's more of a show for the crowd, like hey, pointed to the scoreboard shoo away that's amateur hour i'm sorry and it hurt i would have hurt more than a few just acted like he wasn't even out there like he couldn't hear me was invisible right and i need act in the case later in the game and he just

could have carried on business as usual that would have been more insulting than the shoo away i just it's it's disrespectful in that sense. And you know what, like stuff like that, you guys know I don't like the showboating stuff, but again, that's an old man saying that, so I don't, you know, I have to understand that the game has changed. But it just, it came back to bite him in the ass and it doesn't look good. Like and Jack guy's a tough customer, don't get me wrong. You know, that, that Rempe got him with a couple early yesterday dropped a lot like he should have got he should have got an

instigator rempe should have got the instigator but jack I got him it was a great fight to cut tough customers but you're right Ryan Reeves deserved a little bit more respect on that play because of who he is and what he kind of represents but it's jack I all he has to say is, it's three nothing, I'm not fighting, you go away. But he doesn't have to point at the score card or score clock. He doesn't have to shoo him away. Give him the respect that he earns.

And same thing with Jack Guy. If Jack Guy was, he's going to in the future want to do that to somebody, somebody's not going to want to show him up. That's the part I didn't like. You don't have to fight in that situation. I just didn't like the theatrics to well and then once the rest were in the way tried the i'm gonna get you now type of routine which i get i thought was weak as well like i get away from that man yeah i see you made your bed with the

shoe away exactly that's it but once the scrum once the once the buzzer goes or whistle blows you just have to skate away at that point you can't then pretend like oh i'm pissed off and I'm going to get you and that added insult to injury if you're a Habs fan because listen he threw a brilliant hit on Reeves to start the second period and again at that point I think it was 3-0 or 3-1 and the place is going crazy and they didn't lose because of Jack I but all of a sudden Reeves gets the last laugh the Leafs walk out of there and it's kind of a message to the Habs like you're still chasing them You know, you're still you're still you talk about kind of shooing away the Leafs kind of shooed them away as the game went on But yeah, I'd be curious to in nylon

Listen, no one nylons as tough as it gets and Chris fought everybody. I'd be curious how fighters respond to when you're allowed to turn down a fight, when you should take a fight. I don't know the rules on that and there are unwritten rules. But how many times, I know we've all heard it. Guys say, yeah, it was three and other, he didn't have to take it, but the guy took the fight because that used to happen a lot. Heavyweights would be like, you know where i'm coming from and down the road you're

going to need one and i'll give you one and i just felt like especially with reeves jack guys chirped them before and wanted to go home it's like he's ready for you now at the bell center and he said no okay he said no and that's fine, but that won't be forgotten down the road and You know, we'll see what comes with the next time they play but it was an electric night on Saturday And I would expect a good one tonight again with Tampa in town and in terms of the standings and you know chasing positions Within the standings this one means more for the Leafs like Saturday meant more for the Habs because they're trying to get into the playoffs. This is more for the Leafs in terms of them pushing Tampa behind them that much more. So we'll continue to tee that up throughout the afternoon. The Jays have made a signing. Anthony Santander come on

down five years, about 92 million. We'll get into that later on. Keegan Matheson will join us. It is amazing how angry people are that this is a good happy though Well, yeah, here's here's what I'm getting two noodles is okay. Sorry guy had 44 home runs last year. They need power It's a good signing. He's within the division. You're stealing him from Baltimore. Why is this happening January 20th? Well, it's a I don't think the the timeline matters because they're not even in camp yet. Like he's gonna be a blue jays all good. I do understand that, but if it's that, I don't, probably because of what has gone on.

I think my read on it is the rest of baseball was probably holding on a three or four year deal, maybe 80 million total, and the Jays have been so embarrassed this year that they said we have to close on something who do we want? we want this guy, screw it, we'll give you the five years, we'll get the ninety like that would be my read on the outside but I, that's great, but I think that's stupid business well, that's

he's struck out on everything else and a guy with one arm that failed physicals, you gotta get him and then you get this guy I understand that it doesn't make sense that's, the concern is that you know, Platt is still going to walk maybe, Bichette is still going to walk, you're still not going to win enough games,

the front office is going to get flushed out, and then you're going to have Santander here on a long-term deal, and Varsho and Springer, and it's like what are we going to do? But in a bubble, this guy hit 44 home runs last year. Like that's a big number. He hits for power, he's 30, he's gonna hit in the middle of the lineup. This should be a win, but they're battling so far upstream that like no one can give it to them. Myself included. Like I just look at it and I'm cynical all the time. It is a win. He's a

good player. There's no salary cap. Okay, give him the fifth year. But you're like, I don't know what happened here. Why? Like you immediately go negative or cynical when it comes to what the Blue Jays are doing right now. I'd be curious to see if tomorrow you put together a mood meter, like it was for hatred of the past Toronto executives, like where these guys would would end up would it be top of the list? It's recency bias, but that's the thing. I'm it's difficult to say because we're in the eye Of the storm right now. That's why they would be so high Yeah, like JP Rattardy was not liked around here like these guys Maybe not like these guys

But what cuz he lived in boston i was a part of a yet in arrogance to own and honestly didn't win you know like there was a number of different things that we have a lot of show you every once in a while yeah i don't listen that that's just the real i'm just telling you how people reacted to him but that was a reaction here comes a guy from boston and he doesn't really want to be up here that was the vibe the j p gave off you know john fergusr. wasn't exactly you know beloved there were executives in

like the Ballard years with the Leafs that I'm sure people are like what the hell's going on here neither confirm or deny Rob Babcock he made the the Carter deal it was really not good like Babcock was in over his head yes a few there's been a few in the Toronto sports era i get it i get it but this you know what brian you're right like i would i was at the airport and a fan of the show comes out to me is like that jay's are a mess what are they lost out again on the pit i'd like they are you doing that i know i know there's some people are so

upset that this win it doesn't matter to them they're still mad and I think that speaks to how much work they still have to do is that you need to get the whole fan base back on your side what would it take to do you tell me something they could do for everyone to say I love what they've done here I'm jacked for the season I think it begins with a Vlad extension like that's the million big whatever it is. I don't know.

They got a blow of 450 million to get the fan base. Well, I think what that would do is that's a win that you kept your best guy. You know, like he wants to stay here. He's one because here's here's at the core of why this offseason has been such a struggle. Everyone looks at the Dodgers. The Dodgers are lapping the field on everybody. They're just dummying all of baseball. They signed some closer yesterday. Yes, Tanner Scott. The guys are stud. They give them four years of huge money. They're like, go ahead, we'll take you. He's like, sure, of course.

Why wouldn't I? Everyone wants to play for the Dodgers. Everyone wants to live in LA. Everyone wants to play for the Dodgers. I don't blame players for saying that's where I'd want to be. That's where I'd want to be too. It I'd want to be too The sign that you actually want to win and it's a it's a it's a well-oiled machine that's spending money So I get it. We're all jealous of it But what you're really jealous of is the success and the fact that they do it they pull the trigger on it So I don't look at it like oh Jays missed out on Otani to the Dodgers Sasaki apparently they were in on Scott Okay, the bigger embarrassment this year has been that the Cleveland Guardians have been bullying the Blue Jays. That's way worse if

you're a Blue Jays fan. What do I mean by that? Angel Jimenez, they're dying to unload his contract. Who picks up the phone? Ross Adkins and says, we'll take them on. Then you can tell the Guardians were guardians like the jays actually think they're gonna get sasaki as you want this bone i'm gonna i'm gonna throw it out there there's no way they're gonna take this but yeah i'm give you a couple extra million international pool money will you take my straw they close their eyes and rostro's done and like oh my god they broke it poll like that's a bad way or there. Apple up Twitter. Like people said after he signed somewhere out there like that's a fireball offense or

that's way worse than losing players to the Dodgers. The Cleveland Guardians looked at the Blue Jays front office and said we can get these guys to take two contracts. We're dying to get rid of neither of them can hit straws. Not even going to play for him. Him and as a plus plus plus defensive player hasn't hit in two years. And the Jays took them both. That's way worse. And that's, they keep digging themselves holes to the point where again you sign Santander and it's like, what does this mean, man? It's like the wind horse.

Like now why did they do that? Like what's, what's coming next here? What are they doing next? Anyway, Keegan will join us later this afternoon. Now that Santander is a J, what next? Because they're still off season. There's still a bunch of free agents and if they spend money they can bring in more pieces. Maybe everything, you know, flips around and it's all good here. And the Leafs in action tonight, we will get into what happened in the NFL as as well haze and rose back haze and rose seen the board beautifully credit words to own wilson pretty good weekend themselves what's the score is it's six five duty

six five as a child rampage hash tag rampage yeah ice i saw a little something six five on the list it was six three so you guys battle back while we had the spread last night. We had the Stones to take the Bills. The toughest call of the season. Everyone said take the Ravens, and my partzy and I said, no. We got the Stones to take the Buffalo Bills. Well, if you get a guy who catches the ball, then it looks different, right?

That's a tough... That guy wakes up tonight. Yeah, Mark Andrews is a grizzle of that like great player. I told you guys about lying asleep at night and like wondering what could have been if you were better in a playoff series or something. But that guy, that's a tough, that's tough sledding in the next, I don't know how long that's going to sting them. Oh, I think the rest of his career. There are people that are actually breaking down the throw by Lamar saying it's bonk let's get into that with luke okay looks coming up in five we've got something

to chew on brought to you by boston pizza as well on who's responsible for their laws because that's generally what it's about right how did the ravens grew up as opposed to how did the bills by the way to succeed yeah that was in his hands. I'm sorry. He's got to catch that ball. I agree.

Could it have been a better spiral? Sure. Maybe he could have led him a little more closer to the sideline. I'm sorry. You're a professional tight end and he's a pass catching tight end. You have to catch that ball.

You have to. Non-negotiable. Non-negotiable. You have to catch that ball, especially considering the moment. It's mandatory. You've got to catch the ball. You play to catch that ball, especially considering the moment. It's mandatory. You've got to catch the ball. You play to catch the ball.

And he did not. So Luke Wilson coming up just after 5. Chris Johnston still to come later this afternoon as well. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. Overdrive continues powered by FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line of the final score. You've got Ohio State versus Notre Dame tonight. Big college football game.

National championship game. Ohio State a big favorite but we'll see what comes of it. Good luck to the Bowen family but I think the Notre Dame Irish gets smoked. You're calling a blowout in favor of the Buckeyes tonight I do that's shameful for you to say that really you're an Irish guy too like come on I get it I love Notre Dame but you don't think it's gonna be a blow it's a big spread the Ohio State's a big favorite isn't Joe Boeing skipping the game tonight like is he yeah it's a national. Those guys, this is serious business. I mean, I wouldn't label it skipping.

He's not pretending to be ill. He's not calling in hooky. Yeah, he took it off, right? Yes, he is not calling the Maple Leaf game tonight so that he can lock in on the Fighting Irish, which I think is very admirable. I like that idea. It is. I love that idea. Wow. And yeah,

Bonesy's stepping aside. He's been calling games for 43 years. What would you do if the Leafs were playing in a game six or seven in a Stanley Cup final and the game started at 4 p.m.? That would be really strange if that happened. I guess I'd probably... You would say I'm not doing I prefer not to be Distracted would be the answer Now I'd also question what the hell Gary Bepman is doing having a game seven of a cup final midweek at 4 p.m But yeah, I'd probably prefer not to be on the air during that game I'll give you that Al's brother Al brother house brother be hosting overdrive the three

of us to be there yeah that's true we maybe we'd be in the building maybe we do something beforehand after hand afterwards to a little pregame postgame uh... i don't know uh... people asking us before the news comes out what we think the suspension will be for connor mcdavid i think it's very simple it's the austin matthew suspension yeah it kind of has to say simple it's the Austin Matthews suspension. Yeah. Yeah it kind of has to be.

It's the same thing. It's the exact same thing. Connor Garland is Ross Mastallin. And that's exact same cross-check so it's three games. There should be. He got two I believe Matthews right? Matthews got two. Yeah. I stand corrected. It's two games and that's what he should get and there should be no complaining. There should be no just one game because he's McDavid because the comparable is Austin Matthews. Yeah. The two game suspension. Very simple. And you know what? Regardless of who you are. Listen, Garland, I thought Ray called it perfectly because Garland could have got eight penalties before that all happened. You know, the holding, the hooking, whatever, you name it. Doesn't matter. Cross check on the side of the head. you name it. It doesn't matter.

Cross checking the side of the head. And Tyler Myers should get two as well. Now, Myers was a weird one because that kind of came out of nowhere in the corner. It was like, here, take this with you after we just won the game. I thought that was a little bit more like that's right in the face, like right square on in the face. And I don't know but I think both of them are gonna get two games I might be wrong but I think it's warranted

regardless of who does it whether it's Austin Matthews Connor McDavid or if that is Matt you know Pizzetta somebody a fourth-line guy on any team that that's it's got to be suspendable you got to take that out yeah you have to I mean you have to be in control your stick i know he's frustrated uh... but i remember saying after the matthews one i kinda liked it and i i kinda feel the same way here with mcdavid like you were not going back to messier in the eighties recordie howe like those guys were they they controlled everything because there was nothing was

on tape and nothing got reviewed and they throw vicious elbows to let everyone know Just stay away from me because I'm not in the mood for you, but I kind of like Every once in a while the best players in the game still having a short fuse and deciding you know what? I'm I'm gonna give you a reaction you want one I'll give you one and this is what you get right and Credit to Garland because he took a cross check off the head and just he didn't drop he didn't pretend like he got shot but do you think the message would would go through the league like a

Messier elbow would like do you think in the future like the where the game is now guys are gonna say man I better stay away from that mcdavid because you would have been what of what he did it garland i don't know if guys you would even think we may be not but i'd i guess i guess my my point is i don't i don't see a downside in it and either i guess that's what i want to like a take the suspension the team will be fine but it was kind of like law

when we were playing that like don't go near Wayne Gretzky like don't go near him and don't go near any of those guys it was like they're you're playing against them but if you deck them or you elbow them or you cross check them like it's it was just like it was like you got to do your chin strap up to start the game it was like in the letter of the law. Well that but but oh there was a toll to be paid. You went near Gretzky, it's McSorley, it's McClelland.

There was a lineup of people that'd be waiting for you. I hit him I hit him in Greensboro one night Jamie and he fell down and I was just the whole game I was looking around I'm like what what did I get myself into. It wasn't a malicious hit. I just rubbed them out against the boards and he went down and I was like i was waiting for all night i'm like somebody's common when i'm not looking but it never happened but the games changed you know i think there's frustrations out there

i agree brian like carter's a human he gets hacked and whacked all the time he'd be gets frustrated uh... we see it he showed some frustration i thought he went too far and you know people in ebb and turner like the hour but this and what about that doesn't matter you gotta try your own stars penalties on either side and and and you have to control yourself because i always say

remove the players just look at the act because if somebody did that the car mcdavid rost and matthews there'd be a summit we need to be here it's there be all sorts of things or top players we know we try to protect top players but the end of the day those guys deserve the suspension for what they do either way i was somebody else that six games like they could be a very very thing if you're the league you want to pump the breaks a little bit like i was i would i do think that the matthews one

is just so clear-cut it's's the same. They're both superstars They're they're they're in it against guys who aren't it didn't do anything malicious But you know the intention of Dahlene and Garland they're there to piss the guy off and they're trying to clutch and grab And they got a reaction out of them. You got to control your stick two games I would I would guess it goes the other way if anything Maybe McDavid only gets one game as opposed to two, but it's right there. But I think you're right. Like if that, that's Arbor, Jack, I, that's Jack guy. It's maybe five games or something. And you're like, wow, you're malicious. You're

crazy out there. You're a wild card. You know, the game, the league is naturally going to be uncomfortable with this because they don't want to suspend the best player. Like it's not good for business but you have to do to keep some sort of semblance of integrity in your sport you can't you can allow the tivet to get away with it blatant cross check ahead and there was already noise about his little four-arm shiver there on marcus

yohansson right in a soda right like that was uh... and little accidentally on purpose type of here, take this with you on the way out type of thing. And you know what, like these guys like that, Joe's shown it on the screen there, you know, and it happens, you know, it's a little pop there. And I don't, that doesn't rise to any level, maybe a fine or something, but I just, I think it's more, you do have to have, I come back to yourrian like the accountability like you get the if mcdavid gets nothing in myers gets to that would be yeah exactly outrageous exactly like yeah they're both

blatant cross checks to the head of an opponent and uh... yeah you can have that so and mcdavid he's he's having a hearing he's getting he's gonna get some sort of a suspension clipped and the lease around are out in Edmonton I think five games from now he's not gonna be out for that clearly he's at most he's getting two games but he won't be suspended for the first time in his career and anything that happens to Connor McDavid is always gonna be news and we're gonna see it has I was thinking about it like

back to one percent just quickly back to one percent he's missing two days all of us a little bit of a just a line on his chances of winning the heart trophy of the to take yourself out of the lineup likely for two games he goes back down to one percent i got a cut it in house camp can have that kind of behavior what about one point five you shave a half a point off for two games i'd find a good one point five did i think he got one point five he's gonna go

nuts after this it is and i think that i might have a question though i did it looking at superstars this cross be ever been suspended i'd like off the top my head of my computers acting up here but cross be a battle back shit up's going to spend suspended i believe but it was missing an all-star game on your has he

yes i i i definitely have no all the missed again wasn't really a suspension it was like a formality thing where he chose not to go and then he had to miss again or he was injured and it was one of those like if you're gonna miss the all-star game because of injury got a missing in we game when you Come back, so it wasn't necessarily a punitive thing But right that's a good question. I don't have the answer do you look that up? No, no one's been suspended Sid or Ovi neither of them have been suspended So there you go Austin Matthews and Connor McDavid have both been suspended

They've got new generation on the fan dual odds for the heart like hide with dry sidle I think he was like miles behind him wasn't he? Yeah well he was 15 games ago he's always been in the hunt because who he is. Of course. If you're a fan duo you're always terrified this guy's gonna do something crazy for 30 games and that you got to protect yourself a little bit but it is gonna be a race you know like you mentioned earlier this hour that like switch gets flipped and all of a sudden we're into the race here towards the finish line. And the same thing is going to apply here with the heart discussion because I guess

McKinnon would be in the driver's seat right now, but I don't think that's a very secure position to be in. And I think there's a lot of different players who step up in and take it so there's a lot on on the line here coming down the stretch the art ross the rocket to a lesser extent i think we under i saw the likely wins that but uh...

there's there's gonna be a lot action in the nl thirty five games and what a dry side of that now see at thirty thirty three goals to in that last yeah 33 yeah so he's a pretty good buffer man he's he's in the driver's seat pretty substantially for that rocket but you know listen there's there's guys that are gonna be on his heels a lot of games to be played I don't Matthews is out of that hunt now he's just he's missed too much time but you look at Austin he scored again on Saturday night and I think he scored in seven of the eight games since returning and he's on, you know, like a ridiculous pace in terms of what he's been doing

the last eight games, seven goals, 12 points, shooting percentages through the roof, everything's going in for him but that was going to balance out because he was missing out on a lot of opportunities earlier in the year that he usually talks home. I like some of the juice after the recent goals he scored, like that reaction of the goal in Montreal you don't really see that that often from him. Reaction in Jersey, reaction to Dallas Stars like he's coming around man. He looks like himself. You can tell he's feeling better like I don't know again I don't know the nature of the what he's fighting through but he looks more comfortable out there like he looks like he's got some pop again i didn't

love the goal that he scored up from a goaltender standpoint i thought that hit the middle of the net but it it just the you know he's got some juice in his game uh... we have a correction out of that skins with suspended three times i don't know what money brian mooder just said be that he's like Alex Ovechkin's been suspended three times. I know, Brian Moodrick just sent me that. He's like three times. I'm like, didn't we just say neither one of them has been suspended? Sometimes you got to rely on Doogie to step up when he... Okay, Doogie,

take us through the suspension list, please. Let me just backtrack here. Is it in the notes that McDavid or none of them have ever been so well we just asked do you know fly we said do you have sid or ov ever been suspended we gave it a few minutes looked over at doogie and doogie said absolutely not they have not been suspended and now two minutes later do you said incorrect oh he's been suspended three times what are the suspensions please do boys I'll take it on the chin he's been suspended three times. What are the suspensions, please doogie? Boys, I'll take it on the chin. He's been suspended three times. One for charging, one for boarding, and one for a knee-on-knee.

Okay. 2012, 2010, and 2009. Okay. So earlier in his career, it's been a while, which you can understand that. You got to really scroll down the page. You were close, man. You were close. He's in the ballpark. Dude, three times, kneeing, charging, elbowing, as opposed to none. It's all the other guys and your close he's in the ballpark if you're going to times mean charging elbowing and i'm not here on

it's all the same thing it's a round here all good man all are you sure sit is not been suspended positive your own heart is not positive i don't know where the god said that's not like that and maybe uh... yeah i feel like he has to i don't know if there's been a suspension or there's been like arguments about it like he should have been suspended for that or whatever and like do you think is just doubling down

nope nothing i have a song i hope so badly sits in suspended like what kind of computer are using that like is that an etch a sketch like do you know all the google stuff yeah well we're still figuring that out right to do is getting to the bottom of things. He hasn't been here long. It's only been over a year. He's figuring things out.

Yeah, it's all good. Okay. But what we do know is Austin Matthews has been suspended and we think Conor McDavid likely will be. All right. Luke Wilson coming up in about 20 minutes on the four games over the weekend. A lot of focus obviously on the Bills Ravens game. The Detroit Lions are out I told you I warned

you I know man you I owe you a lot of gratitude I guess and a lot of foresight there on your behalf I just smelt a rat I just I just smelt something his fault though wasn't his fault he's like it's all my fault no I don't like the crying after I don't either man I want my guy to be emotional but to be like no I fault like dude what are you doing day yeah well you can't go from fighting kneecaps to sobbing sobbing cuz you lost like I'm sorry man there's a disconnect there yeah you can have you could have some tears flowing down because when he said things like to know

What they put into this and how they get back up and get locked in totally But you can't go down the road of it's all my fault. Yeah cannot cry saying it's all my fault I know that I was I was a little bit taken aback by that from Dan Campbell because I just feel like he's all he's a Showman like a lot he loves talking and he gives these incredible speeches and he's a very likable guy but it was ugly man like they got they got I wouldn't say blown out but it was ugly on Saturday night and credit to Washington because that was a great great win so Luke will join us on that we got Keegan Matheson on the Jays signing today the Jays offseason so far and whether or not

they can turn things around. Chris Johnston coming up as well and leaves Tampa tonight. We're waiting for McDavid to see if he gets suspended if so how many games and there's a bunch of games going on in the NHL today. Overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. All right, Luke Wilson will join us in about 15 minutes. His take on what we saw over the weekend in the NFL. We'll get to something to chew on, brought to you by Boston Pizza as well. Jays are making things happen, which is always good to see.

Always good to see the Jays getting active, getting people back on their sides. So you think when they, if they can lock down Vladdy, you think everybody goes to opening day singing the management's praises? No I don't think there's anything they can do to get everyone singing their praises. That ship is sailed. The only way you're gonna get people back officially is if they actually win. Wins wins will ultimately prevail in the end if you win people will come around and be like actually this was a pretty good move and who cares about

Otani and who could you know it's difficult in the offseason because there's no ballgames like there's no no box scores there's no standings like nothing's going on you you need to win games in order for everyone to eventually you know come back around but I do think them signing Vladie would be a big sign you know it sounds as if they're still on on Pete Alonso I don't know how that all works you know Alonso and Vladie and Santander and who's gonna play what positions and who plays first and who DH's but it sounds as if they're still looking at that they need pitching in my opinion they still need at least one starter at least one but there's still guys available you

know that's the thing it's a weird offseason in baseball man it happens every year the big guys go early and then there's like 50 quality players who just sit there until spring training starts and that's kind of where we're at right now so if they add another piece or two go and win some games all will be forgotten fans are fickle in every single market that's the nature of the beast man they just want to win yeah but this one is a little bit different man it's it's it's ugly they really got away they place a lot of the blame on missing out on some of these players I think I just get to I think it's embarrassing

now because it's like oh jays are in on that didn't get them Jays were in on that didn't it's Almost like the meat some of the American media men Why is it all in on why is it always the J like there had to have been other team aren't being listed So it's almost like team bits insiders are goofing on the J's Well, that's what it feels like that they and I think not to get too heavy here But at the core of this for Blue J fans, is there's always some insecurities and an inferiority complex that it's the only Canadian market and we're different and it's just a reality.

And there's always this concern that we're viewed upon as, wow, that's the Canadian team and I think- We're a screech. We're screech powers. We're screech standing. Dude, that was a dirty tweet. Dude, that was the funniest thing. I was laughing out loud. I think screech That was the funniest thing I was laughing screech walked into that

Classroom and saw his girl doing that on him Lisa turtle and Zach Morris making out and screech was waiting for a Date and thought he had her and that like I was howling my kids were trying to fall asleep My kids are like, can you shut shut up what are you doing out there and it's not like they would you can even explain can't explain screech saved by the bell but that's basically what it is like all these players are like you're screech get out of here like the jay's are screech isn't there a scene in a movie where someone says dude you're screech yeah there's actual screech there's a famous that in the movie Made,

it's Vince Vaughn and Jon Favreau, Screech gets into the club before them, and Vince Vaughn goes, you just let Screech in, and you're not gonna let us in? Like, basically, are you, like, Screech took the money to go and be in the movie to get goofed on as Screech. That was basically the punchline. Try to and be in the movie to get goofed on a screech. Yeah.

That was basically the punchline. You gotta try to find that. The movie's made. Yeah. Let's play that in the next hour. He's like, you let Screech in. Yeah. There's the time.

Like the Jays are Screech, man. Screech powers. Look at how happy he is when he opened that door. And Zach Morris is just absolutely all over the place. He is on a riding John Deere. Screech, he's got a six pack on a riding green John Deere mower and Screech is devastated. Screech is so heartbroken and that's Sasaki in the Dodgers and the Jaser Screech.

Yeah, Sasaki and Dave Roberts. And Ross Atkins is sitting with a bouquet of flowers and a tux on and Sasaki's like Screech, get the hell out of here. Alright hour two coming up overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. You've been listening to overdrive powered by FanDuel. FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score.