OverDrive - OverDrive - January 22, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! Got Yer Back Podcast Host and Former NHLer Jason Strudwick joins to discuss the Oilers playing without Connor McDavid in his suspension, Leon Draisaitl in the Hart Trophy lead and the Canucks' team issues on the roster. They go around the sports world in the latest edition of Role Play Level of Concern and Scottie Scheffler's injury impact.

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Haven't caught up with Struddy in a while we look forward to that wonder if he's outraged as well yeah i mean you see the the oilers statement they're getting car for that man the like who comes out with a statement what is this great five volleyball what are we to bring you it is surprising i thought he was the statement basically say we're not happy with

this like okay what is that going to do? Yeah I don't think it achieves anything and if you're not going to challenge you know the suspension which would have been within the right of McDavid in the CBA if you're not going to try to push back on it then what is the point I don't really know what uh... i'd listen everything about the david i understand you have to be a hundred percent supportive that's your guy everything revolves around him i i understand that but uh... it accomplished absolutely nothing like there's no way gary betman and george

perot so like all the statement came out word big trouble now you know maybe strutty had something to do with that statement. We'll ask him. You're from Edmonton Noodles. You can speak to it. I don't know. Is everyone back home okay?

Is everyone going to survive? People are missed, but it was a nothing burger, the statement. I thought it was useless. It was useless. It was a nothing burger. That's the way I looked at it. It accomplished nothing. That's the way I see it.

Nothing. It's like when your parents say, oh, you're grounded. I looked at it it it accomplished nothing. That's the way I see it. No It's like when your parents say oh You're grounded and then you're like, I'm really pissed that I'm grounded and they're like, okay great. You're still grounded It's just like yeah, exactly. It makes no difference any revolt any pushback, but game one down last night Washington ends up beating the Oilers and Game one, down last night, Washington ends up beating the Oilers. And again, you got the Leafs and the Blue Jackets tonight. Columbus, a very compelling team. We had Dean Evison on yesterday, and he's a great guy to chat with.

Like, grizzle. I'm going to give him a hall pass. He called me Paul O'Neill. Okay, so one mishap. People are like, it happens to me all the time, people are like, I know who you are. I'm like, who? They're like, Paul O'Ne know who you are I'm like who they're like Paul O'Neill I'm like no I'm not Paul O'Neill Paul O'Neill used to play for the Yankees and the other Paul O' Neill is my dad that's right now here's my take on that you tell me where you stand no because you're gonna come up with something outrageous and stupid no I

actually don't think he was talking. He was addressing you as Paul. We were talking about the Hartford Whalers. I think he was talking about Paul Holmgren and stopped his train of thought. That's how I read it. No, because he was like, and Paul, you know, you played for the organization too. Oh, okay. Well, in that case, he called you Paul. Yeah.

You're Paul now. Welcome to the club. But I like him a lot and through the, you know, being friends with a lot of whalers, he's very well respected. There you go. He's doing a great job this year, man. He's coaching up a storm with those blue jackets. It does seem like, you know, we mentioned yesterday, Fandoul had the odds for the Jack Adams and Dean Evison is two on that list.

Spencer Carberry is number one into the favorite and i i have to believe if washington wins the president's trophy this year spencer's probably gonna get it yet scott arneals you know on the other side right winnipeg and it's his first year on the job and he's done a remarkable job and if they end up winning the president's trophy i would think scott arneal should be in that hunt but yeah you got you know Everson who's chasing down a Jack Adams and you've got Zach Warren ski who's

certainly in the the Norris hunt right now and Quinn Hughes might be a bit ahead of him maybe Cale McCarr but I think you can make a strong case Zach Warren ski has been the most impactful defenseman this year. No kidding. They get in man if they get in and he's who said you or Jonah said if he gets in Zach Warren ski has been the most impactful defenseman this year. Real close to it. Yeah. They get in man. If they get in and he's who said you or Jonah said if he gets in and he's got 25 cookies like that's your poorest winner. Yeah probably should be based on narrative and the you know the the the fact that you

didn't expect it to happen. Why not just recognizing how great the guy is that instead of just deferring to how great like those other guys and I don't like that either but it's finding a balance like if Zach Renske has 25 goals and he plays all those minutes and it's just a great story but don't ignore it but I also don't like ignoring greatness from the other two because there was a bunch of years where the major trophies it was like automatic nomination it's like think outside the box just a little bit, right? Right? Yeah, I I mean if they get in he's got to be at Norris

And I think you also have to think about Evison as coach of the year that this team was not scheduled to make the playoffs whatsoever and the tragedy that went on crazy I mean, it's so sad. Yeah. He, he addressed that yesterday about, um, you know, how difficult it was with Johnny Goudreau, obviously passing away with just even the whole, you know, Babcock stuff last year, which has been completely forgotten, but that turned the organization upside down. Right. A week before training camp, Mike Babcock gets fired or steps away. That was one of the craziest things that we've seen.

One of the craziest stories. And they've had injury issues this year and the expectations just were not that high. And Columbus, they've already exceeded them and they're in the race. And it's setting up pretty interestingly that it could be Ottawa, Montreal, Columbus, any two of those three teams getting in at the expense likely of Boston and the Rangers, I would think, and maybe Pittsburgh if you included them as a veteran team that could be in the hunt. And I think that would be a good thing for the league.

Turn it over every once in a while. Get some different teams in there. Get some new blood in there. That's kind of where things stand currently in the East. All right, joining us now the maple toy the hotline here's our main man a good buddy i'm sure he's very emotional right now jason strudwick joining us everyone okay at their struddy has ever holding up with connor mcdavid

suspended for two more games oh yeah i know we we accept the punishment right i think there's maybe a little heavy-handed, but You know, you just got to take it and move on, you know, you cross-check someone now We can debate what happened before that. I mean the way that Garland attacked Connor McDavid is where I remember noodles attacking a hot dog guy when there's one hot dog left at 2 a.m. You know, so similar But but I mean the crime itself, I mean, it was

at least two games. You know, three I thought was a little heavy, but I don't know, it's one more day off for a guy who's played a lot of hockey. What do you think about the statement strategy? Like, why did the Oilers feel the need to come out with a statement? Yeah, it reminded me of the statement that Jimmy Butler put out when he came back from the Miami Heat to his agent and just said, I'm back. I don't think it really served a purpose. I don't really know what you're doing. And there was a lot of people in this market that wanted the GM, Stan Bowman, to come out and unleash on the league. But you can only

pull that so often. Maybe you hold that back for the playoffs or later in the season. So, yeah, I don't know, maybe there's frustration from the owner. I don't think it really says anything. It didn't really do anything to me. It doesn't change anything of what happened. Well, what it sets up for now is a fourth line guy gets suspended and he said the same

when is my statement to be a yeah why why do you not care as much now you got to issue a statement for the thirty four two swings is stuck in an exhibition game and it's like all of their we started with the statements and i guess if we did it for mcdavid when down they really hope that bastard gets ten games right now i feel that this is a great about the payout none of the you know just get him out of here

for ten more games but what was the read on the nachos being thrown on the ice last night was was that was that you was that's when you're aware of is that a protest what wire nachos being thrown on the ice of the time well i'll say I'm too cheap. That's like a $20 bag of nachos. I'm not throwing that out there, right? You know, if I brought my own it would be a little less, but I've seen a lot of things thrown on the ice. Jerseys, you know, squid,

or octopus, whatever, you know, all different things. Beers, quarters, but I've never seen a full plate of nachos hit the ground and then guys keep playing. And Perry shot me, that was an absolute bomb, turned it back 15 years on his shot. But I, you know what, I don't really know, like who's the guy that says I'm going to throw it out there? How drunk do you have to be to think you're in the show? And I bet you they weren't even hit, it was probably his buddy, he's like, hold this for a second, then he got mad and just tossed it onto the ice.

It makes no sense at all. No, it is such a stupid decision to be like, throwing anything on the ice is clearly dumb, but a full plate of nachos, and to your point, those are expensive, man. Like those are not cheap, and what do you think you're accomplishing with that plate? It is kind of amazing that Perry scored there.

Like you were talking about earlier, Noodle, like the fact that Thompson was like, hey, there's something clearly on the ice and he rips one top shelf. But anyway, go ahead, Noodle. Strutty, do you think Dreisaitl is the heart winner right now? Yeah, you know what? He's been so good. He just, I mean, you look at everything, you know, and people don't love it, but plus minus, I mean, he's right up there. He's scoring a ton. He's playing with different, you know, different line mates, you know, all the time. He's rotating through and helping those guys do well. I think he is. And he's, it's just

like he decided I'm going to be an absolute beast this year and I'm going to do everything I can to help the team win Stanley Cup. I'm not suggesting he hasn't done that before, but just the way that he's playing and he's very business-like and just I'm here to help the team win. That's all I'm trying to do. He's been everywhere. He's scoring, he's winning face-offs. The only thing he doesn't do is kill penalties and that's because they can't play him 30

minutes a night. So, they have to pull it back a bit. But he's playing unreal well. Now, you look at some of the other guys, Kiprasov, unfortunately, or Kaprizov, sorry, his minutes have come down, obviously, because he's been hurt. But I don't know how he's not the clear favorite right now for the Heart Trophy guys. I agree. I think he should be.

I think as of now, it should be basically the Hart trophy guys. I agree. I think he should be, I think as of now it should be his, basically his award to lose. Now, McKinnon's been very, very good this year clearly. Halibuck has been great. We've talked about some defensemen recently, like if Vancouver gets it on the rails and gets in and Quinn Hughes is playing the way he's playing, could he get in that conversation? I don't think Zach Warenski will quite get to that level, but Warensky's been outstanding for Columbus. We discussed McDavid and his role in this, and I guess I would ask you to clarify that study. If you see Dry Saito as the clear-cut guy, how does that apply to McDavid's pursuit

of it? What would McDavid have to do once he returns from the suspension to make you think, oh, actually, I've changed my mind here. McDavid has been more valuable over the course of the season than Dry Settle. Yeah, well, I'll start by saying this. I don't think that those guys are really interested in the personal awards. They've done it all, right? So I think that they just want the best version of each of them and then the whole team so

they can hopefully get what they really want, which is Stanley Cup. But for Connor, I mean, he's so dynamic and his ability to score and his ability to cover so much ice, I mean, I think he'd have to go in a real scoring tier. And he's up there for scoring. But I just don't think that's their focus this year. I truly don't think that they're worried about that. I think that they're thinking,

what's the best way I can contribute to this team to help them make the best version of who we are? And when I say we, the entire team that they're on. So yeah, I think if Leon wins it, Conor will be happy. If Conor were able to go nuclear, we've seen him do so many times and he wins it. I don't think they'd really care, unless sitting beside that trophy is the Stanley Cup

Strud you're a little closer to the Vancouver situation out there. What do you make of what's going on? Like it's kind of bizarre how good they were last year they Came close to taking down Edmonton and now they are where they are like what do you make of that scene in van? Well, you know when I played on teams you always wanted to keep your best players and there were some you know you don't want to get rid of them you know I wasn't thinking yeah let's get rid of Jaromir Jagger because you know I don't I don't like the other path. Okay so let me ask you this why what would happen back in your time playing when two players were beefing would it just be like suck it up and play on the same team and that's that or what? Well I

think that you try to find a mediator right so and I don't think the coach is necessarily the guy so you know who is the mediator there in Vancouver to talk between these two gentlemen is it the captain Quinn Hughes you know I I don't know that he's maybe that guy. Who's the veteran? Who's the veteran? Is it Myers? Is it Carson Soucy who's going to mediate between these two guys? I don't know that there's anyone there that's like a Jerome McGinn who's been around for

years and he's the one who's going to mediate this disagreement between these two guys because when they're both playing well, they're a very good team. But when they're not, and then if one leaves, you hear some of their turns potentially or maybe coming back, like, yeah, those are some pretty good players, but JT Miller to me is the heartbeat of that team. When I watched him in the playoffs, specifically last year,

the way that he played, he was everywhere. And the team, the fans chant his name, like he and Pedersen, I don't see him in that way. He's a very skilled player and he could do a lot of things but he's not the heartbeat guy so I would like to think that you know they can Pedersen or whoever can say okay we got to figure this out so we can move forward but it the longer drags out and you hear the rumors you're like maybe it's not going to work out and then you know do you unload them in mid season do you get the most value if you do and what does the team look after?

So everyone's looking around like, okay, great, well, he's not here anymore, but we can sure you the guy like that. It's kind of rough. And not to poke fun, but like Nazem Khaji when he was in Toronto, there's suspensions, we know some things that happened, but he's a pretty important part of the Colorado Cup teams. What would he have done for Toronto if he would have been there with the Leafs and again I'm not trying to you know to rip off old wounds here but that's kind

of how it feels with JT Miller. Yeah it kind of feels like the guy you're describing that veteran presence that could mediate is JT Miller but he's the one involved in all this you know like that's kind of the concern is he can't look in the mirror and do this. You need someone else. We were talking about a last-hour study. They're up 2-1 in the second period against Buffalo at home, and they lose last night. Now the way the West is setting up, it's very different than the East. In the East, there's a lot of positioning up for grabs.

Both wild card spots are up for grabs. The third spot in the east there's a lot of positioning up for grabs both wild card spots are up for grabs the third spot the Atlantic up for grabs it feels as if you know the West there's a lot more separation and there's there's kind of a race for one spot you know it feels like only the second wild card spot and if you're Calgary you're having ups and downs and your expectations weren't that high yet no one else is really taken off like Vancouver hasn't done it. St. Louis hasn't done it. I don't think Utah is really in the hunt.

Like maybe it's a scenario where Calgary and I think they probably should be feeling this way. If they can just plug along and keep their head above water, they might back door into the playoffs. Well, we'll think about the perspective from both teams. So for the Calgary Flames, everyone expects them to be near the bottom. And here they are fighting for a playoff spot. So they're excited about the situation they're in. Whereas the Canucks, I'm guessing they felt they could contend for the top spot in the Pacific division. And now, you know, they beat the others the other day, they lost last night to the Sabres, they played the others again Saturday. So,

you know, pretty important game. But let's say they lose that game, there's a little more space. And then you got this whole, you know, personality pretty important game. But let's say they lose that game, there's a little more space. Well, and then you got this whole, you know, personality issue going on in that dressing room, apparently. You know, where do you go from there? Because it feels like you're losing. So, you know, both teams are kind of close to each other in points, but a way different feeling in that dressing room. And I would rather be in the Flames dressing room, excited that we're in this spot and you can't wait to get to the rink. Whereas rink with Canucks and you're like, God, we're not playing very well, we're not happy with each other, we want to trade somebody and it feels like you're just constantly under the gun and not performing the way you or anyone else expects you to perform.

Yeah, and this is an example of the Canadian markets being different than southern markets. We talked about it earlier this week. Braden Point last week out of nowhere was basically suspended for a game. I'm sure in Tampa it wasn't breaking news, everyone buzzing about it. Yet if you're in Vancouver and you're having a slide like this and it's such a tumultuous, dramatic season, you can't escape it. That market is going crazy. Dude, can you imagine if a top player in Canada was a healthy scratch because of them? That would be like CTV headline news. Breaking news. And then it would follow that player around.

Like, what's up with this guy? Is he committed? There would be all these different layers to it. And that's the thing about what Vancouver is dealing with right now. They can't escape their own market because everyone is just on them constantly. I don't blame the market. This isn't me suggesting I would feel any differently if I lived there or worked there or if this was the least and it was happening in Toronto. Of course, it's going to be a constant story, yet there's no escaping a strut like you've

played there. It's a rabid fan base and a crazy media yeah I mean it was with all the good sometimes comes some challenges right and that's that's the great thing about playing the Canadian market is that when you're rolling everyone loves you then when it's not there's a lot of criticism because everyone is interested in what you're doing so you know for the for for that that group they have to find a way to move forward and whatever that looks like because they're a better team than they're showing. They've got a lot of talent in there, right?

But they're not getting it done. You look at their media avails, they try to downplay what's going on, but those media avails are so awkward. They don't like... A couple weeks ago, it was JT Mellon and Peterson. JT's like, I can bring Peterson out here and tell you... We you will tell you everything's okay but his body language in his face tell me different right away it's really really awkward and i i don't know how it's good and but i cannot see you getting full value

for j t miller peterson you know in in whatever the trade ally whatever you want to call it i i just i can't see it happening but i think that desperate to move someone out to change the dynamic that they're willing to do that? And you know, quote unquote, lose a trade. I think that Pedersen's getting a bit of a hall pass with all this JT Miller talk. Like he scored the other night, but he just,

he's not a dominant player. Not as of right now anyway. Not even close. No, he used to be like must watch TV. Pedersen in the end, like he was, I thought he was gonna have battles with McDavid year after year and like he was at that level. He's not close to that and I don't know

what the hell's up with him. Well, you know, you go back to even, when was you really himself, prior to last Christmas? Was that kinda the last time? Yeah. I'd say that was kinda the last time. That's a long time ago, Strud. That is, so, you know, well, you know, after the playoff series, it was, well, you know after the playoffs series

It was the knee, you know, we the knee was the issue now. I'm ready to go this year now He's not really saying but he's not he plays well when Miller's on the lineup or gets more points like at some point You've just got to go and play and you've got you know, you don't always love your coach You don't know if I've your teammates But as a professional and as a member that team you have to bring your best every night So it's his play has been wobbly for over a year now and so is that a drop-off is that you know so you talked about the pressure of the contract getting a deal done like you know you're gonna be a millionaire 20 times over like I I guess he just want to get it

done but if I'm a team and I'm like bud we need more out of you I don't care if you and JT can't sit together together share some jello on the plane straddling you're making a comeback uh... to play with john clain bird yeah you know what i i i mean i don't want to break the news here but they asked me first i said sorry guys uh... i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i Give this guy a chance. He's had a big fight to get back. Okay, I like that. D to D pass. Look at you, always the supporter, always out there to support the offensive guys and pushing Klingberg into the right direction.

Do we know what his status is going to be with Edmonton today? Obviously this is more of a long-term play, I would assume, like depth for the playoffs, but how much would you expect he's going to play and how much opportunity is there for Klingberg to maybe move into a top four position with the Oilers? This is a huge reward with little risk for them to the Oilers. If this guy can come in and find his game, because he's healthy, he says he's healthy,

he hasn't felt when he's hurt the least, he felt he couldn't move as well, and now he feels like he's moving really well. And if he can come in and, and, and play beside darn all nurse, it would be massive and the happiest guy in the orders, if that happens is Leon dry settle because Connor McDavid gets passes from Evan Bouchard and at home and no disrespect to the other D men on that team, but Klingberg can deliver the pass at the time and at the right place.

It's super skilled players. Like, can you understand that? Oh dog, like, yeah, there's no doubt I can make a tape to tape pass at the best of them, but giving it to them when the skilled players want it. Yeah, it's at a 12% clip though. It's a fly up, but still. Well, I was, I was a career 10% passer, but you know what I mean? So you can get it to the guy at the right time.

That is what Klingberg does really, really well. So to answer your question, I think he's going to play and he's going to play a ton. I think they're going to put him in there. Maybe the first couple of games kind of start him slowly, but then get him in there and say, what can he do? What can he do? He's been skating for over a month. He's got a skating legs back, not game legs.

But if they can solve that or fix that problem with this guy, that would be massive, absolutely massive. I don't know what the percentage is, but you've got to take a shot at it. Yeah, and again, you didn't have to give up any assets. We were talking about Jonathan Taves last hour. It's not that different. I mean, Taves played at the end of 2023. Klingberg barely played last year.

He patched some stuff together and what did he play 15 games and it wasn't very good and he was underwater really early, had a significant surgery. Now he's trying to jump on a moving train. It's asking a lot of a veteran, but you're getting them for free. You just got to pay him. There's no assets going out the door. So, and he's got a good team. You know, Edmonton's in a good place. Vegas has kind of hit a wall here, Strud. Like I'm, I could tell you in Toronto the eyes are on the top seed in the Atlantic. I don't see why that wouldn't be the case in Edmonton.

Like why can't they win that division? They're a point back as it currently stands. It's tough. I mean the Kings are good. Don't sleep on the Kings like that. They are. They're big. And oh by the way, they're getting a Hall of Fame defenceman back, Drew

Doughty. So that would make, because they've got some younger D men on that group that you bolster with a 25-minuter like Drew Doughty. That's a pretty nice thing to bolster with. So I think that maybe out East they get lost a little bit, but I've watched them quite a few times. They are good. And that Quinton Byfield keeps figuring it out.

I think he's going to be a really good player. Uh, but Vegas, you know, Vegas is Vegas that, that I, what scares me about a playoff series against Vegas is the skill skating a billion size of their demon. They are humongous, absolutely humongous. Uh, you know, even Washington, look at that. Their whole team in Vegas is humongous strut. They're big but they're big after big but trying to get to the net you know and and trying to get to that

those big guys they can move and pass the park to get to the net that's tough that's a really tough so it's the other two because is pretty still those top three are pretty good teams absolutely right straight we'll leave it there gets the public uh...

catch up with you as always. We'll do it again soon. Yeah, we'll talk to you guys soon. Happy New Year, eh, boys? I love the late New Year's greetings, so happy New Year. Right back at you. There's Jason Strudwick, former Euler and NHLer and part of the Got Your Back podcast. Legacy out there.

Legacy. Joining us here on the maple Toyota hotline count on maple Toyota for the right winter tire package for your Toyota trading your old tires buy a new set and get $40 back visit maple Toyota comm yeah true doubt he's gonna he's gonna hit the road here with LA like it sounds like he's right around the corner noodles like he's gonna play and yeah that's a big in a little but that's a big get that's a big bolster I do we're gonna have to revisit the TV pictures because like strategy's picture that's 20 years ago too right like I don't know what it's

not deserved like there things need to be shown and updated yes like that's I don't know I saw that picture come up I'm like that's him when he still played Yeah, exactly I can't happen these guys we give these guys, you know too much Too much, you know rope to play with when it comes to you know, what pictures they want I noticed Luke is updated his recently Well, it's if it's your pick and you see it up there and it's not right you get a little bit offended I think we're still using an old one for you. I was just gonna say oh you probably need to update your picture How many pounds ago type? Yeah, but like you think so, you know

My are you saying mine is not appropriate? No, I'm saying I don't think you would be happy with yours like occasionally though they'll flash it up on the screen like the The kind of look like what it's a stock photo and it looks it looks like 80, you know 70 pounds It's the one where I have a suit on I think so dude, tell me if I'm wrong I don't know if Joe from the bridge can flash it up and maybe we can take a look at it up on TSN for but I think it's a Bad that's not bad. That's relatively I knew you were just making that up

I'm thinking of the last one then there was there was a photo in that like six months ago That was you had the same profile, but there was way more beef like that was you had the same profile but there was way more beef like You're thinking of the quiz when they showed me beside meth in Ottawa last year. That was a bad one Yes, dude that looked like I ate another guy before I went on the set. Yeah, that was a bad one occasionally they'll show up in like my Memories, you know like something will show up on my phone or someone will send me an old Instagram post or something. Dude, you know what always shows up for me is the wing eating contest.

Oh, it's disgusting, dude. Disgusting. Here's my pizza. I don't know, you told me you loved pizza back in the day. Okay. Yeah, I did. I still am a fan. Yeah, you did.

It's not like I've cut pizza got and I just don't understand this move I had lunch and I eat boring lunches because since I started training at salad chicken. Well this guy Was asking for different types of hot oil and different oil. This guy was dumping oils on a saw Yeah, flakes and like a cheese and I'm just like eat the pizza. I know that move I'm familiar with that activity. Do you condone that move? I don't necessarily I think it's a bit extreme Like you know how much oil is on a saw to be exactly It's already really oily if you add a bunch of oil you start putting the flakes in like some people put It's not pizza at that point. It's not. What are you ordering?

I get it if it's a... Especially a multiple oil request. A normal one and a spicy one, he said. I just said this guy is crazy. Yeah, that's too much. The whole pizza lifestyle, it's a different world. It's a different world, man. It's a secret society. People are doing some weird stuff with pizza. I just like a thin crust back in the day and watch out. It's great. You can't beat it.

I still love pizza. I don't have any spots that I frequent. Oh, too. Because you do get snobby pizza guy, right? That guy exists. Before that panel in Ottawa, during that time frame, I could easily order a large thin crust and destroy the whole thing for fun. For fun. For fun.

Haze, you said though, in college, you would order multiple orders of pizza because you didn't want to leave your dorm room or leave your like it would be for lunch. Oh, no. Hey, that was resourceful though. That was more about being resourceful than it was being a slot. So you were like bad weather. I'm going to order two Zaws because tomorrow I'm not leaving the house. Well, wanted available or that's disgusting.

It is a disgusting behavior. I'll admit that disgusting behavior, but some of it was a look-ahead going out tonight I know I'm getting after it I need something waiting for when I get home because I'm gonna be starving or the next day You know you're gonna be hung over like that kind of thought process that is a look ahead Not saying it was healthy I'm not saying it was appropriate or anyone would be impressed by it if anything they'd be absolutely Disgusted by that type of activity.

I've only once or twice put a 12-pack on ice in the room because you know it's a big win on the road and a bonkers night and there could be a nightcap situation. Those are always... I haven't been in a position to have a nightcap in a long time. It's just not in my wheelhouse. I don't live that type of lifestyle anymore. But that was always something man you get out of the bar and it was like where we going and someone's got beers ready And you're like I could do that. It's only 230 in the morning. I got all the time in the world Where are we going? What are we doing?

That those days are well behind me now, but yeah, I'm with you man in terms of the craziness of like oils and stuff I don't stop it I don't know but I just say that if I worked at the place I'd say there's no oils available because if you go to like a chain or something I don't even know what they have available I'm sure they do the answer is nothing any of these like crazy pizza spots in Toronto there's a lot of great ones it's like a lifestyle thing like I only get my pizza from this place and do you know the story first place called to roni they don't give you anything to cut it with you're not cutting the pizza dude and you can ask for any and now

all they're gonna say you're not getting it like they will and they'll tell you to rip it apart with your hands and that's how we serve it right i couldn't believe it no utensils for a massive wheel it creates slightly arrogance attached to that there is yet it i think that it there are good places i love the place brown i didn't love it love being told that you could substitute anything i like our right like are you would have to do that your nightmare is your the pickiest eater of all time like you can hear that they're going to

be bluntly the just you're not doing that here are yeah that's what it was that you can't do it what it was you can't do that here either order get the hell out exactly what that which i actually appreciate that because they're they stick to the policy like literally you can leave we don't want your business we're not doing as we're not asking for balsamic vinegar for my salad. No get out. No They go we don't serve it like that. I go, but yeah, but it's my salad. It's my salad. It's our salad No, it's mine. It's my problem. I'm like I'd like to put this on my salad No way not happening

Alright, we got PR coming up roleplay level of concern still to come as well. Overdrive continues. TS91050N on the TS9. You can never, never ask me to stop drinking. Do you understand? I do. I really do. Alright, roleplay level of concern. We haven't done this in a while, it's always a favorite. Everyone loves to see which person we're going to be playing and what the scenario could be.

So, we all know the options, right? Pine on the patio, there's a lot of things in between, and then the most extreme level of concern of course is still Nick Cage. And we decided what Stevie Caldwell's level of concern is, it's five beers and a couple of whiskeys, but what does that mean? Is that just kind of like shake it off? I think that's closer to pine on the patio if you can believe it, right? It's just a step above that. It's just an easy night out because that's how he was describing it, right? Like that's nothing. That's just five or six beers and a cup of whiskey right

below a six-pack just just below a six-pack right you know for him and you go to Glasgow or whatever that's nothing that's that's a Tuesday afternoon right that's a lunch meeting yeah all right oh you're playing the role of Mark Shapiro you're playing the role of Mark Shapiro. You're playing the role of Mark Shapiro. What is your level of concern that if Ross Atkins goes down, you're going down with him? Oh, dude. Give me Vegas, like, Nick Cage, Stevie Colt, all of them. Play something. You can never, never ask me to stop drinking.

A couple of ice teas and five or six beers. Yes. Thank you for the combo pack. That is nuclear. Don't you think they're a package deal? I mean, I don't know if Mark Shapiro is embedded enough where he could separate himself and say that guy's ideas were pretty crazy. We got to gas him him especially at this point

because he's been right along for the ride that i don't know but i would say that this is a package deal and i know that mark has done all the renovations and i don't know there is that separation from president to gm but you would think for the PR alone, it would be like, guys, didn't work, sorry. Your unit of Shapiro-Atkins did not work. So see you later. That is accurate in terms of the way the public perceives them. There's no separation between the two. Well, what, do you have inside information that he's...

Well, I mean, I would use a guy like Bren Brendan Shanahan as an example where he's gone through multiple GMs and the president has a political vibe to him, right? And a different relationship with ownership and I would not be surprised if Shapiro told ownership all I've had is, Atkins, he's the only guy I've worked with, give me another GM. Let me have a chance to work with someone else. I don't think it's Nick Cage for me. I do think it might be you know, a Stevie Caldwell or something in the middle It's not a pile of patio. I can guarantee you that yeah but don't there is a separation between isn't there a PR element and you just don't fire people for PR elements or for an

Optic yeah, but wouldn't you think to kind of settle things down you would just do everyone a favor in the organization especially the fan base and say we got to move on? I would think that's reasonable but it doesn't reason doesn't always factor in. Then it turns into stupidity sorry. I think you have a clean sweep if you do anything and the other thing you mentioned is Brandon Shanahan Regardless of the lack of success in the playoffs. They've had a ton of success success in the regular season have the Jays. Yes, my question Well, I mean they they would argue they made the playoffs a few times and yeah one game dude. I hear you

I listen I understand that but I'm just saying there is generally a separation between the two and I understand that, but I'm just saying there is generally a separation between the two. Shapiro, Shanahan, Masai, they all do a good job of being like, no, GM does that stuff. Like publicly they try to let everyone know I'm not involved. It's completely bogus. They're all totally involved. Nothing happens within their organizations unless they sign off on it. But anyway, Noodles, you're playing the role of team canada team canada was your level of concern logan thompson not being on the four

nations face off is going to blow up in your face stevie called well i call west season five or six years you need to see just a one guy in a fitting to do it that you move to the next guy then you move to the next guy but you know what like if Logan continues his terror and his teams at the top of the league and he's not on it it's it's certainly concerning because we'll do revisionist history just like we did at the World Juniors. That's exactly what's gonna happen you just know it right if whoever's in that Bennington or whatever

plays poorly and they lose it'll be look at Logan Thompson Canada does it again why don't you bring the best players. Hey it's gonna happen with everybody Mark Shieffley like if Seth Jarvis or Nick Suzuki's Hagel don't work out they're gonna be like why there's like especially in a market like Canada especially after the World Juniors if they don't win and I don't know what the caring level of this event's gonna be but they don't win there'll be vultures circling that's for sure. Absolutely there always are going to be when it comes to hockey and especially considering we've been starving for best on best for a long time. There might be vultures even if they do win they'll still say well that guy

wasn't that good they should have brought this guy. Yeah, you're right. That's true. I mean, if a guy plays poorly, it would have been an even better success if Shifely was on the team. It's been great all year. And again, Suzuki's been really good since they announced the team and others. All right, I'm playing the role of Lions head coach Dan Campbell, who lost both his coordinators and became official today.

Aaron Glenn taking the job in New York with the Jets and Ben Johnson of course with Chicago. What is my level of concern losing? Both of my coordinators will lead to a down season next year. I'm gonna say Rick Bushwood on this. Six Bush lights, six Bud Light and I love them tall boys. Yeah, I think it's gotta be a six pack on both sides and I love it because listen, this is all he's known. He's worked with these two guys

the he has propped up their ability to run offense and defense and Dan Campbell's a rah-rah Like run through a brick wall for me type of coach. I think he needs help with the courtiers It doesn't mean he can't replace them He very well could he may bring in the next two guys and they're still going to have a very good lineup and you presume health next year and they'll be expected to win a lot. But this is a big change for Dan Campbell. Like you miss, both of your coordinators are leaving. You're not firing them because it didn't work. They're leaving because they have opportunities elsewhere.

This would concern me greatly if I was Dan Campbell. He's still a confident guy. Again, they're going to have a really good roster and I would think they'll be a playoff team next year. But I think this hurts more than people understand because these two guys are really good at their jobs. They worked really well with Dan Campbell and they're both out. And that's shocking, man.

You lose the only playoff game you plan and both your coordinators leave that's a big hit in Detroit man. It's tough. Tough. I mean it's again it's a testament to the program they've built. Use it as motivation Hayes. Like you lost your offensive coordinator with like if you get the main pieces back you just say let's just run it back fellas like just stop making excuses oh we lost this guy we lost that guy you're still gonna pieces back, you just say, let's just run it back, fellas. Just stop making excuses, oh, we lost this guy, we lost that guy. You're still gonna have the main players in place, are you not?

And getting guys back that didn't play in that game because of injury. That's big, yep, defensively it's big, and again, it's a compliment to your program. When was the last time multiple coordinators for the Lions had head coaching opportunities? Never. Never in my lifetime have there been people saying I've got to get that guy from Detroit.

And that speaks to what Dan Campbell's accomplished there and what he's done. Campbell's still there. He's the face of it, the heartbeat of it. They still have really good players. But I do think it's an adjustment. I would be concerned in January about what could happen moving forward there All right. We'll come back with a couple more role plays. Oh, you're gonna play the role of Scotty Scheffler noodles You're gonna play the role of the Vancouver Canucks

Noodles I love that set up beautifully for him Pierre Lebrun coming up in about 20 leaves Columbus tonight overdrive continues TSN 1050 in on TSN for Here's run still to come best bets powered by fan duel Al's brother with another clue right on a Wednesday We've got another clue from Al's brother. We'll get to that but Roleplay level of concern continuing. I was thinking about making you the farmers insurance They call us the open or invitational? Guys are pulling their chute like crazy at Torrey Pines.

And the reason they're doing it is because the Genesis, which is an elevated event, is going to be at Torrey Pines. I get it, there's chaos in LA, but you can't find another golf course to play that event on other than the one they're playing right now. Right. And I don't understand why you'd want to pull the shoe. Wouldn't you want to play it, get a feel for the course? They all know Torrey Pines.

But I would think get there positive vibes, feel good about yourself. Like everyone's out. Morikawa pulled the shoe. Well, dude, what do you think farmers are saying to Monahan right now? Exactly. What kind of joke do we have going on here? You think this is funny? Well well that would be my thought exactly like the pga tour is it not a good place

people are leaving it ratings are down all the players like we got to do something about it how about don't pull the shoot on a long standing sponsor in a great this is a day after justin thomas is begging everyone to do interviews and stuff right guys pull out it's like a great day after justin thomas is begging everyone to do interviews and stuff right guys pull out it's like a great message it's awful wills all

dollars for the shoot today yeah i mean guys upon the shoot left right center it's crazy but i really do you get those guys are saying there's a stomach bug around yeah i did see that report that there was a fact that i think there was a replacement that ended up pulling the chute. I think Ryan Moore maybe replaced like Morikawa and then an hour later said, actually I'm not feeling well, I'm out.

Which, I don't know, I find that hard to believe, man. This is a big tournament. It's on, it's, you know, anyway, it doesn't matter. You're playing the role of Scottie Scheffler. Scottie Scheffler, oh oh what is your level of concern this hand injury and surgery will throw off your whole 2025 season? Pint on the patio, that's it. Do you know that I dummy everyone every time I tee it up? I'm in tiger mode in this little blip on the screen making spaghetti. Ravioli. Sorry, Ravioli is just a blip on the screen making spaghetti ravioli sorry ravioli is just a

blip on the screen and by the way here's a little nugget I'm not even hurt I just wanted a little break. Oh interesting a little sneaky commentary there from Scotty. Yeah can we get him a chef like why is Scotie Scheffler rolling ravioli and breaking glass and cutting up his hand because you know he's not playing this week it doesn't sound like he's going to be ready for Pebble Beach next week he might but I'm not sure that guy should be having ravioli flown in from Venice from Tuscany straight from the hills of Tuscany alright noodles as promised you're playing the role of the Vancouver Canucks.

What is your level of concern even if you move JT Miller, Elias Pedersen is not guaranteed to turn right back into a superstar? Rick Bushwood right now. Six Bushlights, six Bud Light and I love them tall boys. The question is what are you getting in return it's so good so what do you get in return for j t miller that's my concern because you have chemistry at that new player we know what j t miller is as a player is a hell of a player peterson if he gets his act together he's a hell of a player but the new

player i'm concerned about that's my biggest worry well jamie i wouldn't move him i would just say you guys think that you're going to take advantage of us because because you think we want to make a move? Not happening. So take your Zabenegets and other nonsense and we're just not doing it. We'll keep them. Yeah.

Why would you do? Well, I'm sure what they're contemplating is like if our season is going to implode, what does it matter if you have JT Miller or Elias Pedersen? If you're not going to win with those guys, maybe you need something fresh to try to savor whatever you've got there. I have to think that's what they're contemplating right now because if JT Miller doesn't return to form, then it doesn't matter what he was a year ago or two years ago. He's not playing well enough, then he's killing you. The same thing with Pettersson.

If Miller goes, man, Pettersson, the light's going toer goes man peterson the lights gonna be shining bright on him make me better be ready to play a play big sooner like every time since i've been doing this job you look at a team in this problems is not not winning it's guys not playing up the capabilities and it's your highest paid players you look at them co peterson miller who are the three headed monster that are supposed to be the superstars they

carry the load you look at Marner Matthews wall Neelander like those guys carry the mail and if your guys aren't carrying the mail You're gonna be in a position that the Vancouver Canucks are in big time Yes, just in the salary the way it's structured you pay your best guys And you they got to make it work for you, or you're screwed absolutely Alright, Pierre Lebrun coming up in the final hour our best bet still to come as well overdrive continues TSN 1050 soon to be up on TSN 2

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