OverDrive - Overdrive - January 26, 2026 - Hour 2 - Luke Willson

Episode Date: January 26, 2026

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN NFL Analyst Luke Willson on the Seahawks and Patriots set to play in the Super Bowl, Sam Darnold's steps in his career and Mike Vrabel's mark on the Patriots. The guys discuss the abundance of snow in Toronto, the Maple Leafs' losing streak, the Atlantic Division's close race and Bryan gives his FanDuel Best Bets.

Hour two overdrive continues, powered by Fanduel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Brian Haseo, Doug, Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McClennan. We've got something to chew on coming up here in just a moment. We've got Luke Wilson, who will join us as well get his take on his Seattle Seahawks returning to the Super Bowl, the New England Patriots getting back to the Super Bowl, and we're off to San Fran a week tomorrow. Yes. We're on our way to San Francisco. a week tomorrow.

We're doing shows live from San Fran. Right from the Golden Gate Bridge. Right on the Golden Gate Bridge. On the bridge. On the couch. On the couch on the Golden Gate Bridge. Are you sure that that was just like an area? I don't know the full setup.

Obviously, I haven't been there. Our friends at Fandul are going to dial us up and we're going to be in, I think, probably the best studio going on Radio Row. But I cannot guarantee your noodles. You missed it last week. It might be a loungey couch. It might be a round table. I saw pictures. I saw pictures of it.

Right. Because I think Mrs. Grappler sent the pictures in an email, correct? Yes. And I looked at it. It looked unbelievable. But are you guys couch guys or what? Our mutual friend here is a little concerned of the couch angle. Camera angles or what?

Well, dude. I my jean size is 30 I'm afraid of my legs first of all dangling off the couch like not even touching the ground your inseam is short pants okay short back guy long torso and then it's like you it's just like you're sitting there and your neck's like bulging oh and you boil it's just I don't know I told hayes last week I'm going to sit behind the couch Treat it like a character on Mr. Dress-Up. Like I'll just be a puppet back there. It'll be my head. The O-desk. I love it.

We can set up the O-Desk. I don't see why not. It's going to be fun. That'll be a blast. The energy is going to be great. You know, San Fran having to respond to Seattle in town, you know, it's interesting. And NFC West team is rolling through there, going to the Super Bowl. I don't know how they're going to feel about that.

And the weather, I haven't really looked on the weather. Sunday, but like the weather's nice in San Fran, but it's not 28 and sunny, right? No, but it's not going to be this nonsense. No, it's not going to be anything like it is here, clearly. But my point is by game time Sunday afternoon, you know, could be 12, 13 degrees in raining. You know, it might have an effect on the way the game is played. It's not guaranteed to be perfect. It's not in a dome.

It's not, you know, it's an outdoor stadium in northern California. I hope it's nice. Just like when I think about the Super Bowl, you kind of think a bit of sunshine and kind of nice weather and good plays. And you don't like the rain game, man. Right. You don't want to. Right now it's saying next Sunday. So it's a couple weeks.

Yeah, two Sundays from now. Two Sundays from now. Yeah, it doesn't have it. It says 18 degrees. But that's a low of 9, too. I don't think we're going to, I mean, the 14-day forecast. For us, it's going to feel like 40 out. Yeah, exactly.

What we're dealing with here, if we land in San Fran and it's 14 and sunny, it'll be T-shirt shorts and T-shirt weather for us. Right. Like what we're acclimated to right now. It is absurd because there's so much snow and it's so cold. It's not going to melt. You can't put it anywhere. Right. You know, like we have no – I can't keep shoveling.

I don't know where else to put snow. It's absurd what's going on in southern Ontario, and it's going to be like this for a long time. But we won't be alone in San Fran. Our good friend, Luke Wilson, of course. If you smell what the rock is cooking. It would be a big part of the featured event. There he is. Azy, stay humble.

Azee, stay humble. Now, they're trying to steal our slogan, Luke. It's embarrassing. Don't let him do that. Don't worry, noodles. Again, you know, it's funny how you and I have grinded. We've gone through the process. We've trusted.

We've stayed humble. we have one small blemish, a one and a half point blemish. Matthew Safer played incredible last night. We didn't calculate that someone on their team couldn't catch a punt. That's the only thing we've missed this playoffs. Right. And all of a sudden, Hayes wants to run his mouth in the group chat. No, listen, I'm just pointing out, I would be concerned about the whole mojo if I bet against my former team in a big game like that.

That's me personally. I can't speak for anybody else. but man you bet against your Seahawks and they're going back to the Super Bowl. So again, there's something a little funky here. I didn't bet against them. Well, I took points thinking that it was going to be a one to two point game. It was never going to be a one to two points.

Oh, it was a four point game. Yeah, it wasn't even close. It was a field goal game one way or the other. Who do you think is going to win? I think you thought the Rams were going to win, but maybe not. I don't want to put words in your mouth. He called it. I have 100% faith in him.

We're 8 and 4. We're feeling good. My buddy Brian from the Roxy in Vancouver made a picture. I put it into the group chat, and Al's brothers started torching it right away. And then you guys tried stealing. We should put it on the screen, that beautiful picture that says, stay humble, my friends. And it's Luke just sitting there. I'll send it to the group chat.

You guys sound like the Iron Shee. Can I ask? I do have one question. when the Blizzard came and it was a typical AFC game that, as we said, was going to be decided by a field goal, did anyone on your team take accountability for such idiocy? No, you know what? The guy did not take responsibility. And I told him last night, Partsy, I said,

Al's brother, unfortunately, this is on you, chum. I like that. I like that. Always pointing fingers. I noticed something during that Hawks game, that stupid penalty that dude took. It's one thing to take an undisciplined penalty. But then when your hero teammate comes over and tries to give it to you, God, I just saw them looking at each other on the sidelines, Luke, and I was just like that.

That guy's more mad at his teammate for trying to be a hero and give it to him in front of everybody. I don't know what you made of that transaction. The haunting penalty and the Adam touched down the next play. You know, it was at a moment there where, especially the way the Seahawks were rolling offensively, where I'm like, this game, if Matthew Safford doesn't score here, like, this game's going to get away from them. And the idea that they finally got a stop, and then you've got to go over there. And again, I think you're fine here. I think you're fine there.

And then it's probably the last couple of things. And you can see actually there, if you were to run that back, number three is the teammate you were speaking about on the sideline, is trying to get him out of there. You know, it's just one of those things where you can see it coming kind of late. You're talking smack to coaches. You're talking smack to everyone. And then the fact that the next play is a touchdown,

double move, boom, over your head. Against him, too. Yes. And all of a sudden, the Rams are right back in this thing. It was funny because when I watch this stuff, guys, I was saying to a couple of the producers above Jay Studio, I'm like, there were moments in my career where, and you can call me whatever you want for this.

You could have said anything in the world to me, anything, and I would not have taken a penalty. Like there is nothing more important than this football team, this moment, this game in my life. So I always find it confusing when it's like, I get the edge, you want to talk smack. But like the idea that you're even flirting with the line of getting that penalty, against a quarterback like Matthew Stafford,

players like Pook and Akua, Devonta Adams looked incredible last night. Like, if they're up 30 and you want to kind of be a jerk, I still think it's gutless in a way, but it is what it is. Again, I can't bother making that decision personally. I just can't do it.

Yeah, and yet they survived in the end. Sam Darno, we talked about the last hour. Like, he's got a chance to pull at 180. He was a bust seeing ghosts. like three years ago. And now I thought he was phenomenal yesterday. Yeah, and he's been great all year. Number one seed in Seattle.

They were this close to the number one seed in Minnesota last year. So that's two different coaches, two different OCs, two different playbooks, two different divisions. And I thought he was great yesterday. And now he's, you know, favored to win a Super Bowl, favored to be a Super Bowl MVP. If he closes on this, how do you put it into perspective, like the turnaround and the reputation of Sam Darnel? I mean, it's an iconic run. It's generational. Yeah.

You know, and it's not just like one team. You know, he was pretty much cast away. To me, there's like an overarching theme here that as the NFL and football, I'd say in both sides of the border with the CFL as well, as the game evolves, it's become a game where coaches are just as important right behind the quarterback. you know, and you look at Sam, and he's a prime example where it's like, you get ran out of town and everyone talks about the Jets and Adam Gase and all that. He was in Carolina.

Right. Like we forget about the Carolina stint. With Baker at the same time. Yeah. He was in Carolina and it's like absolutely not, get this guy out of here, here. Okay. You know, I wouldn't say his time at the 49ers was bad. He just was a backup.

And then even more telling, it's like he, goes to Minnesota has an unbelievable year. Unbelievable year. It has two bad games. The final game in the season and the first playoff game. And they let them walk. And again, if you're a Vikings fan right now, you're probably asking yourself, what would our season have been if Sam was our starting quarterback?

Crazy. No kidding. Crazy. Because they finished strong in many, man. People didn't notice that. Correct. I think they were eight and nine by the end of the year. So what does that assessment go apart?

Do they just say, you know what? We didn't like those two games and we can never trust him in big moments, and they said we're cutting bait? You know, O'Dong, if you want my honest answer, and this is a bit blunt, but I'm not even exaggerating. The amount of cowardice that is in the NFL when it comes to making decisions, I'm being serious, guys. I'm sure it's in a lot of pro sports.

I know, but I don't think that that word's applicable here. It's stupidity and the wrong assessment. It's not cowardice. Well, I, yes, but why I say cowardice is because guys know, but they're afraid to say it. Because if they're wrong, they take the blame. You know, it's so easy to be in the front office and be like, Sam Donald's not a guy. He can't lead us to a championship.

Because if you're the guy who says, yes, he is a guy and stands on the table and bangs your fists, it's like, okay, we'll ride with him for a year. But if he's not, we're all going to come back and point the finger at you. So the NFL and the way it's situated in those meeting rooms is, and I think the bills are a prime, prime example of this recently. It's not really conducive to like guys sticking their chest out and demanding what they want. And the prime example is Keone Coleman. What happened in the press conference?

The owner goes, well, I was in there. Keone hasn't worked out. Bean didn't want him. McDermott did. And again, it's somewhat applicable where it's like, back to Sam, I can promise you that there are guys that had the opportunity to keep Sam, but it's like, yo, this guy's MO or his reputation, not as a human, but as a player, is not very good right now.

And I'm not willing to risk my career on how well he plays. If we go out and draft a kid, he has four years to fail, which means I have four years with him. I think that's the important point, too. they had McCarthy and it's like, you know, we can give him a year or two, right? Because he's coming off an injury and we stuck our necks out to pick him. Where meanwhile, you look at it, if they kept Donald traded McCarthy at the height of his value, you could have got something in return.

You would not have gotten likely a first round pick in return, but something. There would have been teams that would say, yeah, we had them high on our board last year. We'll give you a second round pick for him or third round pick. Now you're stuck with McCarthy. who looks like a mess. Maybe he turns it around. Maybe he's a Donald, maybe. But now Donald's sitting in the Super Bowl, man.

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Asking online with the Patriots. It's back in the Super Bowl. Who do you think is most pissed off to see them there? Josh Allen, Bill Belichick, or Gerard Mayo. Dude, let me go first part. This is a slam dunk. It's Josh Allen. Yeah, I'm on.

I would be the same way there. Like, I think it's a hoodie down in Carolina. No way, dude. I think his rep gets crushed it. Look where he is right now. He's at UNC campus. Exactly. Going to the same bars I used to, and it's all over for him.

I think it's the hoodie. I think it's the hoodie. Go ahead. Time out, man. First and foremost, I'm not a Bill Belichick guy. You guys know that because of my time with one of his disciples in Matthew Patricia. But this guy's got how many Super Bowls? He's got nothing to prove, and he's got a 25-year-old girlfriend right now.

He don't care about any of this, man. Well, he don't care. And I'll say this. Vrable is one of his disciples. The way they played yesterday, so was Mayo. It looked like, I wouldn't say Mayo was applying his. Mayo's third here, but he probably is pissed. He probably sit there South Loathing and say, well, if I had, you know, May I got him as a rookie.

Look at him the next year. If they, you know, all these kids grew, they were a young team that grew. But here's my case for Belichick is, I think he is obsessed with his legacy. I think he's got an ego like anyone else. Oh, for sure. when Brady left him, he won. And then he got gassed and pushed out. And it was like, well, Bob Kraft doesn't know what the hell he's doing.

Bob Kraft is sitting there back at a Super Bowl here. Right. So Belichick's out. Brady's thriving. Brady's winning. Bob Kraft is winning. This guy's in Carolina getting pumped. His girlfriend's, I don't know what the hell.

She's doing running his show. Cheerleading. I think Belichick. Cheerleading camp. Yeah. I mean, Alan is a, I understand your case for Alan. I get it. But Alan could have played himself into this situation, like I said, this last hour,

where if they were 14 and 3 and won the division, they'd have Chargers, Texans, Broncos. You know, they'd have a different path, and everyone's talking about that path. But this, I think it hurts Belichick that much more, that Brable steps in right away and takes a young kid and Bob Kraft back at the Super Bowl. I'm buying into what you're saying, but I think at the end of the day, Belichick can at least say, hey, I got six rings as a head guy. where Josh right now doesn't even have an AFC championship. It stinks, man.

And I'll tell you what I think to just add a little bit of insult to the Patriot side of it is to correct me from wrong here, but Sam Darnold is from the same draft class, says. Yeah, I think he went third and Allen went seventh. So it gets to the point now where in that draft class, and Lamar was in there as well, right? Yeah, that's right. I mean, guys, two years ago, if we were to sit on the show and you were to say, who's going to be the first quarterback to go to the Super Bowl from the 2018 draft class? The idea that Sam Darnel is even on that list?

Crazy. He's made it to the Super Bowl before Lamar or Josh. Well, you can throw Drake May into that. May and Sam Donald are there before Josh Allen. It's a, yeah, that's why I would still roll with like it's got a sting for Buffalo fans. It's got a sting for. And again, guys, I know I keep harping on this. I probably sound like a broken record.

but to me, you know, coaching matters. How does Rable go in here and take that team, were they four and 13? Is that correct? Yeah, four and 13 last year. Two years in a row. Two years in a row and just walk in and be like, and we barely missed the one seed, barely missed it, and now we're going to the Super Bowl. Like, it means so much in this game, more than any other sport.

And not just from an X and O standpoint, from a culture, getting to buy. in understanding what the coach asks you. Like I loved watching Vrable at the end of the half yesterday. He's screaming at somebody to get down so he can call his final time out. Literally sprinting down the sideline. He's completely clued in. Third and nine with three-ish minutes left in the game. Or all sitting there like, oh, they're going to throw it and get a first down.

He runs wide zone and accepts getting zero yards. And then he's screaming at the offense to get off the field. This guy understands what's going on here. He couldn't have been more in tune. with what he needed to have happened. His whole thing yesterday was, I am going to go down if Stidham beats me in a blizzard, but I am not going to go down by us fumbling,

us throwing the ball errantly, any of that. And it was like, beat us. He kept saying, beat us, beat us. Again, third and 11, just zip it out of bounds. Don't care. Third 9, 3.38, we're watching it now. I'm like, I wonder what they're going to do. Here's wide zone for everybody for a total of zero yards.

Run, run, run, punt. and then get off, look at him, get off, get off, get off. I'm dying. I'm dying. Amazing. Do you think the quarterback, I know, like we talked last week where it seemed like everybody was worried about Drake May saying he's young, we don't know if he's ready. And I know the weather was bad yesterday, but good weather, good conditions, he's going to have to make him a lot more plays. A lot more plays. Do you think he's capable?

I think he's capable, yes. but I really think if you want to ask me to preview this whole thing, I think that Seattle is heavily advantaged here, but there is a caveat. You got to be honest though, part. No, no, no, hang on a sec, Jamie. You might have the pet.

No, no, hang on a sec. You got to be honest, parts, because we already know our move. We've had meetings, we know our move. Let's just talk ball. Be a ballard. I would heavily lean Seattle on paper, heavily.

But what gets strange, and I do bring it to my Super Bowl, the one we lost to, not the one we won, the one we lost to the Patriots. I would say that that Super Bowl as well, talent-wise, we were much better than New England, across the board. But what New England has, and they have shades of it from the Belichick era, are these games or they just seem to steal moments, steal plays, situational football. You know, it almost happened to the end of the half. I just mentioned with the variable timeout.

If the Seahawks come out and have a Tarek-Wollen moment against New England, Vrable knows how to manipulate game. They say that he's like the greatest knower of the rules in the NFL, just knows everything. So coaching-wise, I love the Seahawks. I really do. I think they have a tremendous staff. But Josh McDaniels has, you know, the O.C. there has played against a lot of great defenses. He was the O.C. that played the Legion of Boone.

and managed you to find a way to score 24 against us in a Super Bowl. 28, excuse me, lost that 28, 24, I believe. This guy's got two weeks. Vrable, on the other hand, like, they're not going to have a big margin of error availability to beat Seattle. They don't have the guys to do it, O'Dong. But the way they play, and you saw this yesterday, they don't make mistakes.

So if Seattle comes out here and has that turnover, or they have that moment, that penalty, I could see this thing getting flipped on its head. That's where I love the matchup on paper to go Seattle's way, but this is a greasy staff. It's a veteran staff. It is a staff that is loaded with Super Bowl winners. So I think that coaching I would give a slight edge to New England, which matters a lot.

Yeah. Well, I guess because of the weather, they're playing, you know, they were basically stuck in Denver last night. And it sounds like Braebel said, no curfew tonight. Go have a great time, but the bus leaves at 8 a.m. tomorrow morning. If you're not on it, you don't play in the Super Bowl. Yeah. I love that messaging.

Go have a great time, but Super Bowl prep starts tomorrow, 8 a.m. You'll be there on time. This is something that I think would be a fun combo, because I do hear, you know, even when I was playing out here about the hockey world. The hockey world is very infamous when it comes to curfews and road trips and things of that nature. The NFL is just not like that, Hayes. it's like what you just said where it's like, hey, because the majority of guys

don't have guaranteed contracts. Like we always love, oh, the top five free agents got, you know, 60 million, 70 million, you know, whatever. It's like the majority of the NFL are making great money, but it's like I signed a three-year deal and one year's guaranteed. You know, and if you want to be that guy, it's a very clear message in the NFL. First of all, we don't have road trips

because generally, like you said, you leave right after the game. so there's a curfew everywhere on every team I've been to. We have curfew when we fly in and we fly out immediately. Snowstorm, you want to stay the night? They got a win, they got a week off, go have a night out. But if you're not a bus at 8 a.m., you're probably getting cut. And like, not if you're Drake May. No, and there's always wiggum.

40 of the 53 guys in that team, like it's just understood. If you want to double cross this team, go do something illegal tonight, and your name's not Stefan Diggs or Drake May? Like remember here, and this is going back to the Super Bowl they lost against the Eagles, no one knows what happened. Malcolm Butler. Malcolm Butler got bench or a Super Bowl. Yeah, something happened.

Something happened. But if a guy goes out and has a good time, like say they go and hey, let's have a good time, but somebody gets overserved, don't you think that the leaders on that team would make sure that kid was up? Like I've been on a team where a guy was buckled and was going to miss the bus, and they brought him out in a shopping cart. There was a guy from the Falcons back in the day.

You're flipping through the yellow pages the night before the Super Bowl. Yeah, that wasn't San Fran too. That was the tough. I don't know who it was, but he just won the Man of the Year, and I think he was clipping through the Yellow Pages the night before the Super Bowl. pages. Dude he was. Doogie, what was that guy's name?

Because it was a big story. I think I remember that now. I thought the one guy went to Mexico, didn't he? No. This was the night before the Super Bowl. He was playing for the Falcons, man. Almost positive. That game was in Santa Clara.

Almost positive. We could do a little tour. We'll go take a look at where he was, where he got clipped. But noodles, just answer that. What we would do in what happened in Seattle quite a bit was our coach, would be like, hey, Eugene Robinson. Eugene Robinson. He was up to no good, man.

Listen, through the yellow page. Oh, yeah, guys, I want to be very clear. Guys are up to no good in the NFL. Of course. But it's like understood that like you can, you can be up to as much debauchery as you want to be. But when the meeting time is there, you are there and ready to go. And when the game, the ball's kicked off, you better ball out.

Yes. Like I'd say this to team, won the Super Bowl with in 2013, partied more than any, if you were to take the amount of partying that team did, I would almost combine it with my next seven years and say that

first year we partied more than the next seven combined. But it was like, even me as a rookie, I would be afraid to go with some of the vets because I'm like, dude, this is like, you better buckle up, Luke. I'm 23 years old. I know this thing, I'm not used to this guy. I'm just not about

that yet. Veteran lifestyle. Yeah, and like they'd all be in the steam room at 6.30, 7 a.m. on Saturday, because Friday's the big night in the NFL. And, you know, and they'd be kind of stretch and tell in the steam room, letting everyone know what happened last night, piecing all together. Stretch and tell. I love the veteran in the steam room the next day. So hungover is my favorite guy in pro sports. Yeah, stretch and tell noodles. Yeah.

Oh, you used to say that, the old grizzled vets in the steam room or just in the bike and doing whatever. Just so hungover, but they're there. And on Sunday, they balled out. Yeah, got to be there, man. I think one of the greatest beers in the world is after a win, and you just get a cold beer and go in the steam room and hammer it, and it's just a really nice thing in life. It's beautiful.

You know what was fun for me? This NFC championship win yesterday brought me back to this moment, and it's unfortunate because it's closed, but in Seattle, we had this bar that was really like a Mexican restaurant, It was called pesos. And there's nothing special about this place. And you guys love going there.

It was the greasiest place in town. And it was like, we're in the locker room after the game. You know, the media's in there. They get out and everyone's like, Pesos like say hello to your family. Do what you got to do. But like it is a absolute race to Peso. But they probably left you alone there, right?

They probably left you alone. And it was like a whole area was kind of blocked off for us. I remember the wildest Pesos. night was after the it was after the NFC championship against Sam Fran. That was a wild one. I'll leave it there. I'm not sure we can get into a more store.

Save those. That's where they... I already know the scene. The owner shuts down, turns the lights up, but keeps it open for you guys, whatever you want. Hammer beers, other goonery. It was, uh, yeah, a lot of, I wondered, I'm like, I wonder where the the guys go in it, because pesos is shut down.

I'm like, I wonder where they go now. You know, I would know. That's disappointing. That's the support. The young guys just can't keep it alive, man. It's unfortunate. We've got a Super Bowl intact. Seattle, New England. We've seen it before.

We saw it, what, 12 years ago. I know. I'll see you guys in Santa Clara. Yes. I'm a little confused here. I'm hoping Dougie can chime in here. So it's 8-4, and the number is 14. So there are 14 points up for grabs in the Super Bowl.

All right. It's not over, man. I'm not saying. That's why I'm saying humble. It's not even close to be in over. Stay humble. I don't understand if the win number's 14. Well, I'll explain it to you.

Okay. Because it was a total, there was 26 points up, like, total in the whole thing. And if you get to 13, it's tied. I think tied would probably go to us, right? Like, that's kind of how the Ryder Cup works. You've got to knock out the champ. You've got to beat the champ. So the Super Bowl is...

Amen to that comment. Absolutely. Two points for the spread. Two points for the total. So we will pick which one we want. You guys will get to. the other one. And then there's five props each were the point, right? So we're each accounting for seven points, but it's the way we're doing it throughout the playoffs is if you get it right,

you get the point. If you get it wrong, it swings the other way. So this is my only question. He said two points of the spread, two points of the total, there's four or five props. We're at nine. Five props each, dude. That's ten. That's ten total. And then 14. So we're each going to do a quarterback, each do a running back, each do a wide out, each do a tight end, and then there's going to be one other kind of yes or no prop that we get to determine, right?

So if you want to do coin flip... Now, are we still rocking this? We're like, if you guys have, let's say, a tight end prop. We will call the over. 100%. And the underhits, we get the point. You get the point, yes. And we're canceling out, Doogie. We're not doing like coin toss or

like blue Gatorade this year. One of us could pick a coin toss because it's It's a black or white. You know what I mean? Like you can't do one like Gatorade because it's just there's seven different options or whatever. Right. You got two options. Yes, exactly.

So if there was a fumble total, you could bet that if you wanted to. This is where I get a small bit annoyed here, boys. Well, it was explained weeks ago. Yeah, I'm just saying, noodles. It was in the email. You want grease. You want grease noodles. So we've grinded, you know, five and one.

We stayed humble. We've grinded. It's eight, four. lead and now all of a sudden the game starts and we get the length of the anthem wrong. You can do that. You can do that. And they get that coin toss right and it's

all of a sudden 8-6 before the games even, the balls have been kicked. That's exactly what we plan on happening. That's so greasy. And then we're going to win the spread. We're going to win the total and we're going to win this thing by 16, 17. That's not very humble you. Well, I'm not pretending to be. I don't like that slogan.

Listen, we'll be fine. We'll be fine. Fine. We need to stay humble. There is that. Stay humble. I'm going to go Iron Sheik. I'll make you humble. Make you humble.

There's the Iron Sheik old school. This thing's wide open. We're wide open right now. All right. All right, buddy. Well, we'll do this again later in the week and we'll catch you in San Fran. Can't wait. There is.

Luke Wilson joining us around the table. Again, we're off to San Francisco. We're going to be there at the Super Bowl next week. Of course, the game on CTV, TSN. You can listen to it on TSN. Back into the Leafs, what happened to them over the weekend? what we can expect with Buffalo in town tomorrow night. McDavid and Bouchard, their games over the weekend.

Lots going on. Lots going on in the sports world right now. And your boy, Scotty Shephler, does it again. Overdrive continues. Unfortunately, the Leafs were supposed to have that outdoor practice today and the weather just completely uncompromising. Impossible. He couldn't ask people to be outside.

Downtown, it's so crazy, man. There's nowhere to put the snow. Yeah, that weather certainly affects a boys weekend when you're 50 boys weekend just like it's not a whole lot going on anymore you go grab a dinner we were going to go to a callingwood blues game in town nice

one guy on the way there said boys turning around weather's not even going to make it the share where when the guy's 25 he would have driven through anything yeah to win a peg to win a peg dude yeah yeah so he

to pull the pin, he goes, it's too dangerous. I'm not going to, I'm pulling the smart move, I'm turning around. So that forced the rest of us. We sat on the couch and looked at the weather for Sunday, and we said, boys, we better get home. Let's pack this up. And everybody left. I love it.

I was like, this is so pathetic compared to, like, you're, back in the day it would have been, the weather's going to be so bad on Sunday. We're staying Sunday night, too. Yes. Yeah, you'd roll it into the positive. Yeah. Because you're not, there was no weather at back. You're not looking at your phone.

You would just wake up and be like, oh, no, it's bad. Those were the best nights. The ones that were unpredictable, and you're like, I guess we got to stay. Are you staying? I guess we got to stay, and we might as well. That's usually the go-to night, like the most memorable. Yes. The one, you had no business staying, but we were, it was a one-night thing.

We had, like, dinner. We watched the Leaf game, and then the next day we were like, guys, we better get out of here, man. Looking at your clock. Yeah. Got to go. Yeah. That's smart. I'm telling you, go Friday into Saturday.

And then Sunday, that's where our buddy strutty got the night train. He'd go and take a, let's go take a peek on a Sunday night. I'm like, are you crazy? We just went out two nights in a row. Yeah. Got to go take a peek. Sunday night at the sidetrack cafe. Yeah.

We'd be there. Sneaky nights, man. There's a guy in Raleigh, North Carolina, unbelievable golfer. His name was John Day. This guy's favorite night of the week, I'll never forget it. Monday night. was his time to shine. He didn't like Friday.

Monday night was his time to find something to get up to. It's usually an industry night, right? They call that industry night. So anyone that works in the bar scene or the entertainment scene, they've been working all weekend, right? Monday night, and they are veterans of the scene, too. You find a place that's rocking on a Monday. Those are people committed to having a good time.

They know where to go, too. And they're dialed up. Diled. free or you know you've got a wink wink with a guy who runs another bar and all that it's just right in right to the bar free drinks everyone's having a great time round here though never fails i saw a couple dodged neons zooming around yeah that's how they are crazy they can't wait they love this weather there is people with little like your go-kart car that zoom around doing 140 in a blizzard and i don't know how they do it i don't know what wheels they have on their car

Like big pickups are going 50. Yeah. And these weasels and their tiny cars are booming around. I don't get it, man. I don't get it. I was driving in a blizzard last night in Ottawa back from the rink to the hotel. And I'm not lying. It wasn't a neon, no.

It was a Toyota Corolla. It came bombing by. The left lane hadn't been, you know, they graded. Like, everybody was behind, like, the guy doing the highway with the salt and the greater or whatever. This guy blew by in, like, the HOV lane. Of course. It was all snow and everything. He just blew by everybody.

A black. And his windows had snow all over. I'm like, how the hell is this guy even seeing? There's one. There's always one, man. That's the 25-year-old guy who's like, I'm still going to party. That's right. He's going to a guy's weekend.

Yeah, I got a weekend I'm getting to. Awesome. Well, some of the stuff online, so funny. Like, you know, like my door-dash delivery guy opened my door. and it's like rocky trying to get through the snow and stuff. Like people ordering food yesterday throughout the city is such a greasy play. No, it isn't, dude. It's like if you're a greasy play.

No, it isn't. How else you're supposed to eat? You can't leave your house. Well, you prepare for it. This wasn't a store. This wasn't a tornado. Everyone orders a wheel or door, whatever, man. Everybody isn't that.

You know, if you better tip, though, it would not be a jackass. You're right. You better. You can go ahead. Tip. Big tip. But I'm telling you, though, like, I hear you. Oh, but like there's a lot of the big thing in the city now is like bikers.

You know, there's bike delivery guys. Yes. Like that guy mowing down Young Street. I'm not kidding you. I ordered Uber Eats in the fall, and a guy came on a one-wheel thing. Like he was standing up on a one wheel. Nice. An electric one.

Yes. He was standing up and the wheel just turned and he was. He went right across my front lawn on it and stopped and delivered the food. That guy's probably a five-star delivery guy too. Like he gets wherever he needs to. Nothing stops him. But some of the stuff online was hilarious. Like Uber Eats delivery guy trying to get to the front door and all that

because the weather was just so crazy. And that was the thing about the Leaf game yesterday. It was a pretty good crowd, like really good crowd by the end. It's disappointing. It was the next-gen game. And I'm sure a lot of people. just said, you know, can't make it or try to get rid of tickets or whatever. But to go down and watch, I guess, McKinnon and McCar put on a show,

or in this case, Brock Nelson put on a show, is, I guess, one thing you could walk away from and say, at least I got to see them play. But, you know, you look at the Leafs here. We've talked a lot about the weekend. In the 4 p.m. hour, we discussed a lot about what's going on. They have five games until the break. What is the minimum amount of pay? points you think they need to get for tree living to at least contemplate standing pad or maybe

being a buyer at the deadline seven seven of ten points that's minimum i think you got to you got to win four or five or you guys didn't we just say this last week yeah we did say yeah we did we've had the exact same combo we're like with this homestand what do we need and we're like they got to play 700 or And the most they can get is three now. Most they can get is three. Yes. So you've failed it by, if they win tomorrow, they've got three out of that ten. You need, like I'm saying 700 hockey at home and you've got to be 500 or better on the road.

Like that's, it's, they're in one, other teams are in one. They're in the mix, though. I keep saying they're in the muddy middle. Two weeks ago they had to go on a run just to put themselves back into the muddy middle. And, you know, the teams above them are winning. constantly every night you're going all well that team chasing that team and no they just got two points and Tampa

Tampa I feel like has played 82 games already they're playing again tonight Yeah they played 50 Like they actually have games and hand out teams They were catching up though that's the problem They've been playing a lot of hockey recently But you look at it You got to take care of what you can control

I heard the same comments coming out of Ottawa You're looking up and it feels like a mile ahead everyone's ahead You've got to win games and then at least put yourself in the conversation of challenging for a spot. They have 30 games left. They need at least 40 points, which is a very daunting task. I don't know if they're just, I don't know if they're good enough.

You know what I mean? Like I just don't know if, like, Colorado, I would say is probably good enough. Vegas is good. The least with the injuries they're dealing with and the way they're built, it's asking a lot. It's asking a lot. But that's kind of what you're hoping for right now. I think you've got to get to 97 points, probably to be a wild card team. That's a lot.

Men. Yeah, like there's been other years, 89 gets you in, 91, 92. It doesn't seem likely this year. It seems like you need a lot of points. So, you know, again, I think it's going to come down to gold tenning. I didn't love Stolaris on Friday. Didn't love it. Walk me through, like him, the, the,

story coming out. Did he demand to start? Did they want him to play in the minors? Again, what's being reported? Well, what's being reported, and what has been confirmed is that he didn't want to play in the minors. You know, because Craig Baruba was asked that, and he kind of passed the buck again. So it's not my call. He's not my call.

So basically, go-ass tree living. You know, he's kind of going, putting a spotlight on the GM. But the bizarre thing is we talked about not just because of Mitch coming back to Toronto, just the magnitude of the game. and it's like that's your first game to play in? Yeah, it's weird. I mean, they stunk in front of them, but it's like, why that game? The problem is, you know, Colorado would not have been better yesterday.

Yeah, like Colorado and then into, now you're into interdivision. Who do you think plays tomorrow? Is it wool? I think it's wall. I guess. I think you can go back to Wall. But if you brought Stolars back, you know, you got a bank on them getting hot, don't you? I mean, it's.

I'm going to say it's not. Solar is going back in there to try to get some, something's got a light, a fire under somebody. Fair, fair. Tomorrow night is going to be very telling their body language because I think Craig Button and all three of us know because we were a player. The players, you guys, we all know first whether you stink or not or whether you're going to have a chance.

Like we talk about whether the Leafs could make a push. Those guys in the room know better than anybody what the real deal is. So their body language tomorrow will be very telling on how they come out. It was, I thought, very telling on Friday and Sunday. It was like the urgency. Really bad start. Yeah, really bad starts. Yeah, it's like it's desperation time.

You're fighting for your life, and those were your two efforts, and your coach is meeting with you on a Monday to describe how important the next series of games are? Well, that is crazy-ass stuff, man, to have to detail how important it is. Guys, look at the standings all the time. All the time. It was the interesting part for me, the Vegas game. game is Vegas plays a certain style. And I thought the Leafs kind of got pushed out of that game.

And Vegas, the way that the Leafs are built, they're supposed to be more Vegas style type, physical and that type, with some skill. Vegas leaned on it. And, you know, like Cowan looked his age in that game. I thought, you know, you look at some of the players kind of got pushed out of that game. And Colorado is just another tier. I'm sorry. They're another tier.

Not even close, Jamie. Not even close. And I've seen them live now twice. I've seen them play a bunch of times. They're just another tier. There's five teams in the league that I think maybe five, maybe three or four that could challenge Colorado. But the Leafs were not in that. They're not one of them.

Vegas could be. Like Vegas is good, man. That would be a hell of a series. They're really deep. They're a big. Yeah. They're a good team. some good teams, but like I say, you look at Colorado, they have a little bit of everything, right?

And then if the goalie gets going too, like, you know, McKenzie Blackwood hasn't had his best, he's come off of injury, Wedgwood is coming, you know, back off injury. Like they, if they get healthy, that's a serious team. Yep, for sure. All right, best bets coming up. We'll put a bow on a busy afternoon. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and up on TSN4.

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NHO games are available in the Fandall Sportsbook Gap. Please play responsibly. 19 plus physically located in Ontario. shout out to scotty sheffler who just won his 20th pGA tour event dude it's not even funny man as soon as you think like he's got the tiger vibe it's like oh maybe this guy maybe siwu kim is going to take him down now he was at like 29 under and everyone else was that 22 23 he he dunked one on 17 and it didn't even matter he just laughed no i know like it fanned it and yeah like but everything else dude they had a somebody i think dan rap

Port posted his birdie putts. It was like two feet, two inches, two feet, four feet. It was, he's a domination. Oh, yeah. He just hits it so good. And he's starting to putt with that claw. He's unbeatable right now. He's unbeatable.

Yeah. And like he's, you know, third fastest ever to 20 wins. Only Tiger and Nicholas Moore. He went 0 for 70. His first 70 game, you know, tournaments on tour, which is crazy. Remember that was the story with him. It's like, is this guy going to figure it out? And then he won the waste management like five years ago,

and it's not stopped winning. Yeah. And the separation between him and McElroy for the second rated ranked player in the world is, like, crazy the gap. Like, this guy is legit going to be number one for years. I know. I don't see how to stop. You tee it up at a U.S. Open or Augusta National. I don't think there's that big a separation.

I agree with you. And that was probably. with a difference with Tiger, although Phil might have got him sometimes. DeValle at times. Ernie L's got him sometimes. You know, I would say if the best are ready to play, McElroy can get him. Shafley, if he gets back where he was, you know,

Deschambo in certain courses. But it's just a massive gap. Like how much he's won and what he wins by and how, like, every year he wins six, seven tournaments and laps the field a lot of these. It's unbelievable the way this guy plays. Yeah. Crazy. How good he is.

All right. Leafsaber's tomorrow. So we'll have that teed up. We're getting closer to the NBA trade deadline as well. The Rappas were a big win yesterday. Shout out to them. We'll see if they end up making an acquisition. Looks like they could possibly look towards a big.

We'll find out. And we're getting closer to the Super Bowl. This time next week, we're gearing up for San Fran. It's going to be a blast. All right. Thanks to everyone behind the scenes for up and out. We appreciate it. Everyone for tuning in today.

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