OverDrive - OverDrive - January 28, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Analyst Mike Johnson joins to discuss the Canucks' rift between Elias Pettersson and J.T. Miller, Kirill Kaprizov's injury for Minnesota and the most impactful players on the Maple Leafs. They go around the sports world in the latest edition of Confirm or Deny and the Chiefs and Eagles' Super Bowl matchup.

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Brian Hayes the O-Duck, Jeff O'Neil, Jamie Noodles, McClennan, confirmed with the night later in the hour. Roy McElroy on why he loves to play the RBC Canadian Open. We'll get to that a little bit later on as well. And Mike Johnson coming up here in a moment. The Leafs are back in action with Minnesota in town tomorrow. Bill Guerin will join us in an hour. Bill's the GM of the Wild and the American team for the Four Nations face-off. So we'll get into a number of things with Bill, right? Including two of his goalies are Hallebuck and Ot Otter within his division

Who does he want to see play? What does he want to see happen? Otter come out and say I want to start I think Otter had that comment last week I was like I love that why not course great competition. Yeah, it's a healthy competition I would think that Hallibbuck would have the inside track I mean, they're pretty deep on the US side I mean, how would it work in a short tournament though? Is it like you kind of Hellebuck would be like if there's only what is there four games max? Yeah, I'm playing all four. Sorry pal

Well, you give the other guy one doesn't go well. That's the thing That's true. Go well, like you, you have the luxury to go, okay, it's not like you're going from a one to a two to a three. Like these are all star number one, especially on the US side. These are, these are legit like number one goaltenders. So you were in Toronto and Cujo was kind of the starter and it, and Pat Quinn switched him, I think, didn't he? And went to Marty Brodeur, and I think that was the beginning of the end

for Kujo here. Didn't go well. Yeah, that, I've never heard him speak, I don't recall him speaking publicly on it, I don't know if he has, I'm sure he did, but I don't recall, but it wasn't long after that, he was like, I'm taking my talents to Detroit, right? He was out of there.

I don't think he was happy with Pat Quinn. But Pat Quinn did what he had to do. I think Cujo, if he keeps playing, they probably still win gold. I think he would have been fine. But remember in Salt Lake, they lost that first game, I think, to Sweden. I think they lost badly.

Didn't they lose 5-1 or something? I think they got beat up pretty bad. And Brodeur ended up going in, and he did what he did. And he played great, and he won. And same thing with Luongo in 2010, I believe, where Luongo was supposed to be the number one. And eventually they went to Brodeur, and Brodeur was the guy.

That was eight years apart. And Brodeur and Brodeur was the guy. Yeah. That was eight years apart. And Brodeur won his first cup in 95. Think about how long that guy was like a number one big game, you got to play him, goaltender. Legacy guy though. Crazy. It is crazy. Like you said, when you thought of Canadian goaltending, you thought of WAA, you thought of Brodeur. You know, you thought of WAA, you thought of Bredeux,

you go to Cujo. It is a different scenario now, although there's cup winners. It's Bennington, it's Hill. Now Montembaul, I was asked about it today, it's in Montreal. Would he get a sniff? I don't know. I mean, tie that. Possibly.

I mean, I think they'd rather that Dobish could be Canadian right now, get him in there and play at the Bell Center. Yeah, he's a nice goalie. It's a great story, though. It's a great story, but wait until the league figures you out. I still want to see what he is once he kind of breaks through and realizes you're an everyday player. Well, they got Winnipeg in town tonight at the Bell Center. Jets have tonight, and that's not going to be easy. That will not be easy when Winnipeg rolls through town. Now who's scheduled to start? Is it Monty or is it Doe?

I would assume it's Montembeau but I don't know. It is Montembeau. Yeah, I think he's going tonight because they haven't played for a couple of days. Yeah, Montembeau is going tonight. Anyway, here's Mike Johnson, our TSN hockey analyst, joining us here on the Maple Toyota hotline. What's happening? Johnny? It is Montembeau the starter. I am sitting here above the Bell Center Ice in Montreal, checking it out. So yes, it is... You prep these games, it'll go as it's like, and you just look at Winnipeg's numbers, and they are so good.

Like, it's across the board, everything... those like and you look at where pegs numbers and they are there's no good like across the board everything uh... down there they're just really really dominant and then you factor in the special teams where there their power play is such a difference maker for them that it's uh... it did make it makes it up not to for anybody

yeah sorry before we get into the hard-hitting questions i've got one question for you Now you're you said you're above the ice right now probably in the in the in the box where you're gonna call the game correct? Okay, so why are they not a lot? Why you're not allowed the hot dogs in there because I don't know if you've ever heard the story where we as overdrive we went there and Oh asked me for a hot dog and i had to go down there and i just need to get in my inside pocket of my coat and then i handed it to all and all goes where's where's the buster where's the catch up

i said god well i'm not going to put that in the inside of my coat is there a story of why you can't bring them from the media room into the luxury victim the press box i'm assuming it because somebody on sunday true one i got got to be the only reason right i mean i i don't know about the travel dent to the gulf of all the popcorn you're flicking on people so

uh... but in that the play go like you know i mean garnished it up with the maybe the onions on their from a lot of our a paper towel or something. I don't know. Imagine being bent down a shape. That is amazing. As good as those hot dogs are, I'm sorry, you give a hot dog with nothing on it, it ain't good. That's disgusting. No.

Yeah, there's got to be more to it than that, but the guy smuggled it in. He risked maybe a lifetime ban. Exactly. Dude, it was A plus effort, but then you're looking like,'ll get a packet all hot for a packet somewhere and also the packet along the goal all the way uh... and the attack at the play at the king for a couple of catches in your pocket yes that would help take more sense than garnishing it before but

that people service by doodle model yes try to be a good teammates and i felt like they were watching me Anyways, cuz you go to walk out there like they know something's up because I ordered a hot dog And then I put it kind of took I palmed it and then walked it out of there I felt like eyes were on me. Anyways, if I asked for packets of ketchup, they're gonna be like, what are you doing here? So I just put it on the inside. I had a Hugo Boss coat on I put a Hot dog inside the the pocket of it for this guy and then I get the complaint.

That was the thing. The complaint. Andy would have sued you if he got caught eating it. He'd say, well, that guy brought it to me. I don't know. Go talk to him. He told me it's okay. Yes.

It's a complete sewer job. A complete sewer job. Anyway, so we were talking about, well well we actually have a look at it is jim rutherford comments yet so jim rutherford who who is the the president of hockey operations with the canucks was doing a an interview with the globe and mail the columnist out there in the with the globe in vancouver and bc and uh... is now on the record admitting there is a rift between peterson and

jt miller which is just wild Like it's just you never see this in sports. You see this in a 30 for 30 20 years later, right? You never see it in the moment never comes out now It never comes out in the moment always ten years later. All those two couldn't stand each other They you know, there was a fight in the room or whatever. This is Jim Rutherford saying yes there's a rift between these two and he went asim rutherford saying yes there's a rep between these two anyone as far as to say is just simply untenable now

and something's gotta get like a paraphrasing but he basically admitted we've given it up to the wall yet is that we've tried everything we can they've tried it gets better for a bit and then it goes sour again so this can't continue but like what do you make of the the honesty and is it leading you to believe, like it's starting to lead me to believe, there's a chance both of them are going to go and it's not just one that ends up going.

So first of all, I think we should always give credit for an honest assessment of what's going on and not just doing a smoke stream. So like I don't want to criticize him. Now I think when it is so widely rumored slash accepted as some degree of truth that there is some issue between those two players. It's not he's not you know dropping a bomb on people. People sort of assume that's the case already. Then he's willing to say it. I think the entire league would know what's going on. So case already. Then he's willing to say it. I think the entire league would know what's going on. So it's not like he's making his trade any more difficult by putting that out there and all of a sudden it's a harder deal to make. So in that

sense, I guess it makes sense that he would do that. It just is, again, it's a reminder of it's just so rare that a personality problem some capacity and we don't know still exactly the genesis of it would be so significant that they can't exist together. I know how tight teams are and I get it I've played on them for 20 years but like you don't have like if O and I are not great friends like we don't have to be around each other that much away from specifically at the rink you know we don't sit beside each other playing we don't do dinners together you know you don't have to be around each other that much away from specifically at the rink. You know, we don't sit beside each other playing. We don't do dinners together. You know, you don't have to be around each other that much. But obviously that not even

that is is going to be feasible long term. So I don't know about both though is like the difficulty in trading one guy is one thing, but you're trying to pull two off and get you've already sort of accepting maybe not great value on one or the other, that would be my issue. Trying to pull two trades off around the league of that magnitude would be hard to do. Why would you make the comment though, Johnny? Like, wouldn't that kind of let teams know that,

if you kind of have the stance, whether true or not, like everything's great, we're just trying to focus on hockey, that might make teams kind of pick around a little more doesn't it kind of show a position of weakness when you say that this is just not fixable i would imagine all that everyone around the league of front office if you're at all considering a trade for miller peterson

you're obviously going into do your due diligence and find out what that excellent on there and so by saying it out loud, sure you and I may know concretely now it's an issue, but anyone who they're dealing with would already know. I don't think he's telling any news to the teams around the NHL because if you're trading for either one of these guys, we talked about it the last couple weeks, you would want to know what is going on. why why do you guys and political

uh... i don't think he's hurting it it bargaining position all good came to know well if you got to add in and this is a sensitive topic but j t miller left the team for a month so you you if you're trading for that asset you're gonna have to know one hundred percent what was behind that and that and if that is something that could crop up

and have to leave again. Exactly, that could crop up in the future. It's not like he's a 22 year old player. He's 31 and coming 32 in March. This is a guy who is, I wouldn't say well traveled, but now it's Tampa, it's the Rangers, it's Vancouver and if he moves on there, there's a bit of a pattern. He's a hell of a player, but you do have to do your due diligence and go, okay, if he couldn't make it work in Vancouver, and why did he have to leave?

Like, there might be a correlation with all of this, and respectfully, you have to find that out if you're trading for him, because he's got lots of term left as well. Yeah, and you're presumably going to trade for him because you want him to be good this year. And let's say it's something not sort of salacious. It's like maybe it's a tragedy. Maybe he's got a sibling who was sick. You would need to know that.

If he might not take time away again, you would need to know that. And so yeah, I don't think this is news to the league, even though it's confirmation to what everyone was widely reporting it on and guys, can we rerach the tape for Peterson and Miller when it first broke? Everyone they're like, Oh, we're totally good. We can bring that out here. We can do this together. Like, and everyone's like, I'm not buying that.

Like, what else can you say? But I'm not really buying that. And now, I guess, again, confirmation that that was not entirely truthful. Yeah, and I understand how complicated it is to make any deal. That said, the ranting and deal came out of nowhere, and trades can happen, and if you have good players out there, teams are going to want them. My thought is on the two of them, is if it's difficult to separate who the actual issue is, the instigator was.

Like if I'm an owner, I'm so mad at both of them. They've sewered my season. I've paid these guys a fortune and I'm looking more at Pederson than anything else. Miller, okay, Miller you're going gonna move on from whatever. He's older He doesn't you know reading the tea leaves. It doesn't look like he's ecstatic with the way things are going if I'm an owner in Vancouver I'm looking at Elias Pederson, and I'm demanding an explanation And if I don't like it, I might fly off the handle say get rid of this guy I don't want to I don't want him I paid this guy a fortune and look how he's repaid me. Something similar might have happened, Brian, already.

Absolutely. So, you know, I guess that's my take on it. Like overly emotional owner take. Saying, I'm paying this guy 11 and a half and every time I look at him on TV, he looks pissy and whiny and he doesn't play well and it's always grumpy and just kind of yeah I would drive you nuts drive you crazy making the case to keep Elias Pettersson To follow up on that guys. I'd be like hey If this was so I didn't hear about this when I was signing you to an 80 million dollar extension

Right here about the issues in the room and how things were uncomfortable and how it wasn't a happy place I heard the 90 million made you pretty happy. Where the hell was the news about this? There's no conversation about this. When you signed the extension, it's only after you secured the bag that now it's like, well you know what? It's not really a great environment for me. That's the part that would, if you're an owner, if you're gonna get emotional, that would irritate you. Like, well hang on. Like, you know, you got what you needed out of me, and then all of a sudden now it's a problem?

Why wasn't it a problem before, and if it was such a problem, why didn't we hear about it when you might've said, listen, I wanna resign, but I'm not resigning with that guy. Because I can't coexist with that guy. Because then maybe they would've done something differently back then. And I don't blame Pederson.

I would've done the same. Listen, I hate Jeff O'Neil, but I got $90 million coming to me. I'll probably take the contract and sort it out all later. But as an owner, if that's the case, if that's how it went, which maybe in some capacity did go that way, that again, if you're getting emotional, that would be a trigger point for you. Sure.

Well, here's the crazy part, guys. Two different things. They have a chance. I think they're a playoff team like I you know, it's between them and Calgary legitimately I mean st. Louis is right there, but I think it's between them and Calgary and Secondly Quinn Hughes could be arguably one of the best players on the planet like and they're just pissing away His game last night was insane. He's such an amazing player. He's so good. And lost in all of this is this Quinn Hughes is the captain.

All he does is go out and dominate every night and he's got to shine up what the hell is going on. Now they've won two in a row. They're one point behind Calgary. Like I say, if I'm a betting man, I lean towards Vancouver just based on paper and where Calgary was at the start of the year. I think Dustin Wolfe and all of those great stories, Mackenzie Weger, all these guys have had great seasons for Calgary.

But I look at Vancouver, they could be a playoff team with all of this fiasco going on. That's I think which is the biggest spiciest meatball in Vancouver because if you trade one or both of them, you better get something back to either continue that path on or all of a sudden you're going to piss away Quinn Hughes' the prime of his career. Yeah that's what's sickening is Hughes' plan as well as his plan and it feels wasted. If you're going to be like if you're running Vancouver and you're Patrick Elfien or Rutherford and you're trying to be optimistic What you are really hoping for is that you'll trade one of the two guys?

Presumably Miller, but whoever one of the two not only do you get back whoever you get back Dillon cousins and Whatever and a draft pick but you'll also get back the other guy Like then that would be part of the story like so Pederson's been not good, sort of moping around this year. You know, sure he could dig in defensively, but he's not paid 11 million to be good defensively. I think he'd be the first guy I talk to, Johnny. He'd be the first guy I talk to. Miller goes out the door, I'd call him up and I'd be like, okay, he's gone. You better start providing what you're worth or I'm going to go nuts. You better bring it like you can't even imagine.

That would be the hope, that you're getting the other guy back as well, sort of addition by subtraction because of the friction in the room. Yeah, no for sure. We got Bill Guerin coming up just after six. Oh, spicy reaction inside. That's fast. No kidding, man. No kidding.

Well, he's not ecstatic with the way his team's playing right now that Kaprizov had the surgery I guess he's out for at least a month You know, that's a pretty spicy meatball. It's a big opportunity for the Leafs, right? Because you're getting a team That's a good team without Kaprizov that that That's a big benefit to Toronto tomorrow night Thank you pretty soft after what 25 games he would have legitimately And Capri soft after what 25 games he would have legitimately been the MVP of the league or see would have been a finalist for the heart like that's how good he is and that's how good he was playing and his season sort of come off the rails with injuries and Minnesota

has been struggling after their great start there like a sub 500 team last couple months and so yeah it's a chance to play wells themselves are trying to get it back on track and finding some pace and some goals and some wins. So anytime you get a team without one of their big stars, especially Minnesota, who maybe relies on Caprizov for their offense, as much as any team relies on anybody in the league for their offense, that is an advantage you would be irritated

if you don't take advantage of it. Yeah, big time. Big time. And the Leafs are dealing with their own injuries, but Knives likely returns come the weekend. Tomorrow's likely returns come the weekend. Stolarz is going to take the trip out west. He may play. Pacioretty, I think, was practicing today.

He may play tomorrow night. And even Cali Jarncroek appears to be getting a little bit closer. We brought up the word impact, which is somewhat of an arbitrary term, how you determine what you look for in an impact player. Is it as simple as goals and assists? That's one thing. Is it physicality? Is it leadership?

Is it special teams, et cetera? But of guys like Pacioretty, likeak, you know, these kind of veteran guys Yanni Hock and paw if he's healthy, let's presume healthy and play Would they represent impact for you? Like if you're if you're mocking out this this lineup for game one of the playoffs Which of those guys do you think could have the biggest impact on them actually winning a series? I Mean I don't want to be dismissive. I mean I don't want to be dismissive I mean I don't see a situation where it would be likely that any of them would have a

significant impact. Maybe Patcha Ready if he is slotted on the second line. Whoever that six forward is, McMahon, Patcha Ready, Domi, trade guy, that guy is the guy. Now he'd be of the opportunity, because of who we'd be playing with, because of the role he's going to have to be played. Other than that it's going to be you know physical reliable and maybe Yark Tob scores a goal and maybe Patrick Reddy you know makes a play for one goal but A's I don't know if any of those guys by the way the team works and operates that I would expect any of them to be massively impactful down the stretch into the playoffs in a series. They can be contributors which is

like really all Toronto wants them to be like be a positive contributor to our team help us win whatever that means face-offs killing penalties good four checks but I just don't haven't seen much from any of those guys I would suggest that you know to expect something more might be helpful. Right. Yeah, I think that's reasonable. Again, I think that is what...

The impact guys, we know who they are. We know who they have to be. Yeah. And they got lots of them, right? Yeah, they do. They're not lacking, exactly. If you have a healthy Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Riley, Tannett, McCabe, and a good starting goalie, that's pretty much all you can ask for. What more can you ask for? a healthy matthews Marner, Nylander, Tavares, Riley, Tannett, McCabe and a good starting

goalie. That's pretty much all you can ask for. What more can you ask for? At some point you're going to need depth players to have big moments. Impact would indicate that they have a two month run of doing that. I'm not sure that's reasonable for anybody. It might be once in a while. It might be Ross Colton scoring that goal.

Or it's Bogdanic Man. Pop up there out of nowhere two goals and you might not hear from again the whole series, but doesn't matter in that game He was a difference maker. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's gonna have to happen at some point and Again, they got Minnesota here tomorrow then they're heading out West later in the week All right, Johnny enjoy Montreal and we'll do it again later in the week I'm going to smuggle a hot dog into the booth just for you. On a picker, it didn't happen. Be careful, man.

They're on high alert out there. Be careful. As an alumni, I can do these things. That's very valid. They can't do anything. What if they catch him though? What if they catch you and be like, sorry, you're not doing this? What a story.

I get kicked out of the game and I can't do the game tonight. That would be, that might be worth it. That might be. Is it money? Have him go Vince Scully tonight. Just called by himself. Listen guys, Phil Bork, the color guy for the Penguins last night in San Jose, had to call the game. Their play by playplay out West came up ill and Phil Bork Basically was a play-by-play slash Vince Gully Wow Johnny could you do it tonight?

Oh, I know, but you like I I would struggle like we know the players But like the cadence and stuff like that we mean I would be all I would be a mess No, I'd like to think i can but i know i can't expect yet i'm all to be all hit me on the uh... t v and try to make no i got nothing i am not capable well i have to fill out our job that's so tough as i read the article that i thought i can't believe you did that i didn't hear

about that story i can't either lost i want to listen to it like is it boom goes the dynamite or is he pretty good? No, you know what he's doing The old two-niner came through Wow a Phil Bork. What a stud. He's a beauty that is a beauty I love that guy. That's awesome All right, Johnny. Well, good luck, you know, it's all right He shows up tonight if not, you're you're on man. You can't pull the shoot now. Phil Bork did it. You have to do it.

The bar's been set way too high. Exactly. All right, thanks, Mike. Howdy, Mike. Mike Johnson joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline. Count on Maple Toyota for the right winter tire package for your Toyota. Trade in your old tires, buy a new set,

and get $40 back. Visit mapletoyota.com. That would be terrifying. Didn't we try and do it on air one time, the three of us, didn't we? Yes. We tried to do it. And it was awful, awful.

Yeah. And we actually, you know what we tried to do was a sports center. We tried to do a sports center highlight reel. Remember we had Kara I think come in, and Kara did it with us. I wasn't on that show. I could do that.

Like I feel like I could do that. I don't think you could, man. I think it's tougher than you think what believe me i said beside them there's i wouldn't say that i would be great at it but i feel like i could do it you'd have to you have to work at it but i'm watching them work every night when i worked with them you know you where it's really there and i think they're really not mark roe like all of the other days give us a teleprompter

and a highlight pack on Thursday, okay? Okay, we'll see who can just read off the prompter obviously. It's gonna be a piece of paper and just a random NBA highlight or Gotta be something and we'll do a J at the end of J show you always got that you blew it You can hand out like you blew it you butchered this you did that like there Would be ugly there'd be a lot of us and play by play would be way worse Because play by play just it just goes like you have no idea what's coming. There's no preparation for the play you don't know what's gonna happen and

Not sickening man. That is a sickening feeling for Phil Bork I can't believe you didn't say you got to just pick up the the other feet pick up the sharks feet You know call them up and see if you can take that. You're sitting there, you might as well try. I don't know, like I say, there's no chance I could do. Thursday night, Gorth just goes south, I would be up there. We got to get some snippets of Phil Bork. We got to get some snippets. Is there anyone out there? Look for some Phil Bork. Yeah, that would be my favorite. Exactly, Garth Algar. I'd be Garth Algar

Right, like it's I'm having a good time You start talking but I just following the play Like I think what you do is you you if it goes to say it's Washington the game on Thursday I give it, you know over to Prodish back to and you're looking okay That's Sandeen, but you're late already because it's gone from saying over to Carlson You go over to Washington Washington back to the point shot like you would have to be general you there's no very general You could be picking players out very very general Crazy very general and what would be crazy is people would be flipping it on not knowing the backstory right?

Thanks, like who's this guy? What the hell is he talking about? This is awful. It would be. It turns out it's Phil Bork. Alright, Confirm and Deny coming up and Bill Guerin will join us just after 6 o'clock. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 4.

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statements are made we confirm them or we deny them confirmed that i chris tanner's should be the replacement for alex petrangelo at the four nations face off i'm going to do a hybrid confirm it's chris tv or Mackenzie Weger it's one of the two it's it but what I just I don't know if you're

you're gonna be playing such great players and asking them to do like a Minute left in a one goal game. Aren't you putting Kailh McCarr on the ice? Or are you gonna look for a shut down guy like Chris Tana? You tell me what are you gonna do? Well, it depends on what the score is. Kale McCarr is looking back at the defense coach kind of saying I go out at this time. Like don't you put him out? He might. He might play 30 minutes. He might. And if you're down one obviously Kale McCarr is on the ice. If you're tied you might have him on. You probably do.

Up one or up two I'd have Chris Tano on the ice Yeah, there's also the Bouchard kid who I thought he played pretty damn good in the playoffs last year. He did play pretty good They're getting better. He's getting better. The others are chugging man. They won again last night I'm gonna deny it. I'm gonna say it's Bouchard or Uyghur. Okay. Yeah, I'm denying it too because If you're looking just to replace that player Petrangelo has offense in his game. So that's more Bouchard or Weager. If it was a stay at home defenseman,

if it was Pareko who's morphed into more of a stay at home, then I lean Tanev. But if you're replacing the player, Petrangelo, I'm going with We or bouche art or somebody in that ilk if it's replacing break or whatever i'm going in that mold i'm going to have so i'm denying it i'm saying the other two or other yeah i i still think that this is crazy

i know other people but this true dowdy have any sniff he's just been out for so long i know it doesn't matter you know i think you got a good i think you you gotta watch and and Cuz maybe you don't replace Petro Angelo for 10 days and just have a sniff at what drew doubt He's doing there's a chance apparently that he will get three to five games in before the break I don't know what if that's true or not two weeks to figure this out, right two weeks But if he hits the ground, like Drew Doughty seems to me like a guy who could not train

all summer, pick up a stick and just play 30 minutes. Like that's just how, now coming off that injury, we all saw it in the preseason, high ankle sprain, whatever, it was ugly, but it's Drew Doughty. Like I, you know, I want to give him. I think it would be very compelling. It is compelling. It would be very interesting to see him there. I don't know if he'd want to be there. He's not a young guy.

He's won before he's done it all. Patrangelo's not going. I don't want to speak for him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was like, hey, let me just get going here. LA is a good team. They're a playoff team. I will confirm it because you're right that Patrangelo represents something different. I also think we're, aren't we talking about the seventh or eighth defenseman now?

Like whoever they take will not likely step right into where Patrangelo was playing. Does Sanhaj move in now and Pareko move in? Like are we talking about whoever the replacement is is the guy that actually won't dress? But they have offense. You know, McCarr can supply it and Morrissey can supply it. I think Theodore can supply it. They obviously have forwards that can supply it. I think the way Tanev is playing and defending and the way he can play with great players,

I'd be intrigued by that if I was Canada. But it is an opportunity to make up for... Listen, Bouchard played himself off. Let's clarify this. Evan Bouchard was awful at the start of the year based on his standards He didn't play very well but the way he played last year it seemed like a lock this guy was gonna be on it and They're they're playing well now and you know, he's a really good player man Yeah, I mean it'd be hard not to look hard at him, but he has for sure, you know Edmonton's now like creeped up

What are they a couple points back from the right on the top? Yeah, they're top in the West like it's that's right, you know, so to me I He has to be looked at By the way, that turnaround is incredible. I was like These guys maybe they just can't get it together after going to the cup final and now they're sniffing around the top of the division What a turn around Again, they're third again HL like their third in the NHL. They're three points behind Washington and Winnipeg So that's it. That's an insane turnaround for Wow again second year in a row. Yeah

And you know like either of now ahead of Vegas by one point with the same amount of games But I still think there's gonna be some jockeying down the stretch. There's still yeah There's a lot of games left to be played for sure All right confirmed that I Logan Thompson of the Washington Capitals will make the Olympic team in 2026 for Canada Who I'll confirm it. He's got to be one of the guys if he continues to do what he's doing and that how could you ignore it and other guys are gonna

there's two things other guys are gonna fall off but there might be some kid that emerges from nowhere not nowhere but kinda just makes himself known that he's a go-to guy but i'm gonna confirm that he's gonna be a part of the mix i i that he's going to be a part of the mix. I think he's 100% part of the mix. A lot of that could tie to, you know, what if Bennington stands on his head and Canada wins?

All of a sudden they go, okay, we don't really have, you know, quote unquote the crisis in the crease crisis or however we like to term it or whatever. You know, then all you need is one, Montembeau's not going anywhere, Aiden Hill's not going anywhere, Stuart Skinner's not going anywhere based on their age and where they are and the teams they play, but Logan Thompson has to be there. He has to be in that conversation because he's 27 years old as well. But will he make the team?

Only three of them go. That's the question. Will he be one of the three that goes i'm confirming but i a it's a and a little hybrid canary and that's a fan i'd like to have a look out for the a m and then what uh... i'm gonna confirm it as well and i was a hundred percent confidence of what

but i will say let's let's put it this way and against this doesn't applied to this question because this is about next year if they were announcing the four nations faceoff team tonight logan tobson's on that team i think logan tobson's on that team brought the question is who would they take off you know with the they probably take montembeau off montembeau's been a little bit inconsistent the last little while

i think they want someone from montreal on that team but anyway it's irrelevant it doesn't matter the team's been set it's all good but i i'm gonna confirm because he's been so good he needs a really good playoff performance doesn't mean he's gonna cop but even if they lose the first round it can't be because of him but if he shows up in big games down the stretch into the playoffs i think he'll be i think you'll make it all right confirm it deny both Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen will win a Super Bowl in their careers I'm gonna deny

that one I'll get one of them one but I just don't I don't see life just doesn't work out where it's like hey I was great I got a Super Bowl doesn't work that way I'm gonna give one of them one and It's crazy as it sounds it. I'm gonna pick Alan over Lamar Really? Yeah, I am I can reason with that Alan's been closer Alan's played better in terms of his play out perform I just don't like the energy and the vibe that Lamar has in the playoffs I mean that he kind of gets through that first game and then he just kinda

he depths yes there's no other way around it yeah but who knows but i'm just gonna say one of them simple tonight for me yeah yeah i'm denying it because he said my homes is what twenty nine twenty nine years old back in the end with every night i thought of an analogy last night because I've been saying all year I can't win every year is not and then here he is again in the Super Bowl. We probably said the same thing about like Federer and Nadal and Djokovic you know it's like well they can't

win forever and they just did. They just kept winning. Literally. It was like Nadal well he can't win the French Open every year. Yeah, he actually did just keep doing that. It's different because it's a team sport and it's a violent sport. There's different elements to it, but it does seem likely that Mahomes is just going to go there every two years at a minimum. At a minimum, he's going to cut your opportunity in half, him existing. Then the two of them have to battle out. And who's to say another quarterback doesn't, like Justin Herbert figures it out at some

point. Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow, exactly, gets a defense behind him and all of a sudden Burrow's a guy to be reckoned with. I hate to say it, but I think I'm going to deny it. And I hate feeling that way because I love both of them as players. I love watching them. They're both entertaining guys, easy guys to like. You're saying neither.

I'm going to, no, I think one of them will. Oh, okay. And I kind of lean towards Allen, but Allen, man, he like oh and four against the Chiefs. They've been in the league for a long, for a while now. You know, it's You just got to hope that that Red Sox thing pops up one year. Exactly. It's like they're down big in the fourth and they just have a miraculous comeback and they go on to win the Super Bowl and all of it's over.

Right. Because for years, the Yankees are the Yankees, the Yankees, and they dummy the Red Sox. And then the Red Sox were down three Cobb and they came back and won it and won the World Series. Yeah. Yeah. Well, exactly. And this is like the conference alone. Yeah, you got to get through Mahomes.

Maybe you got to get through Borough at some point. Maybe CJ Stroud keeps growing and that's really tough. You know, like there's just so many different variables in play and different things that get in your way. But I think one of them will. I wouldn't, you know, obviously wouldn't be shocked if both of them did. But at this point i'm gonna deny that they both do as of today

uh... all right this is one that we picked up on yesterday continuing with the theme of the four nations face off confirmed that i alex patrangelo will be on canada at the olympic games in twenty twenty six hundred percent on the team next year. Confirm. Confirm. He's a great player.

I know. I'll confirm it too. I don't think this is the Nick Suzuki situation where they're going to be like, I can't believe you're doing this. But it's strange. I literally want to go Fergie on this one, but I'm going to have to go confirm. I'm kind of like a hybrid, but I'm not want to go Fergie on this one, but I'm gonna have to go confirm I'm kind of like a hybrid, but I'm not gonna do Fergie again, okay

It's Alex Petrangelo. He's not a young guy though anymore. Let's not I know but but it's Alex Petrangelo This isn't a guy. It's a first-time hockey Canada thing This guy's been there done that that, won cups, been a captain in the league. He deserves the respect. And if hockey Canada, I said this yesterday, is too petty and they're going to play the petty game and oh well you didn't do this so we're not going to, then shame on you because you're trying to win games, you're not trying to win a popularity contest or whatever or the inclusion contest. What you're trying to do is, is win gold medals and win these things. So if they're holding a inclusion contest, what you're trying to do is win gold medals

and win these things. So if they're holding a grudge, then they're idiots. That's what I would say. So they are. They are. I mean, for sure. But you could understand why they there would be a grudge here if they're fully committed to this term.

Of course, they want to win it. Like, obviously, you want to win. Right. But, you know, they've they've extended him the invite He's decided not to go. He's still playing for Vegas hurt Yeah, well, yeah, it's playing injured. That's the thing. He's 24 minutes the other night But it's still you know what like oh you were looking at him yesterday He had a bad attitude that hates like you were looking straight

I think I'm a straight shooter on this. You had a bad attitude. He's irrational, too. I'm concerned about the attitude of all the players. So you're denying it? I'm going to deny it from a standpoint of he'll be 36 as well. You still got to earn your spot on Canada. There's no guarantees.

Obviously, there were examples. Like in 2010, Prauner was there, Niedermeyer was there, they would have been over 35, I think at that point. So it's not an impossibility, but maybe Drew Doughty is back in the fold, right? Hopefully he is and healthy and it's like, do you pick one, do you pick both? Maybe he's competing with Doughty, maybe they take Doughty. And maybe he's not a part of this and they play really well without them and they go well we've got other guys who have replaced you or are in a better

position or again it's possible they're they're not going to be happy about this i don't know if they will or they won't be but it's pot i mean it's not an impossibility for them to say okay faggis is a higher priority no problem we're moving on. I wouldn't hold that against hockey Canada either if that was their mentality. I understand what you're saying noodles but I could just see him playing ahead of Travis Anaheim and ahead of Colton Pareco.

Yeah. Just based on that. When hockey Canada's mandate is going to just bring the best players moving forward I would think that would be at any level. It may not be the worst idea. Yeah, exactly. Okay. All right.

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Looks like a million bucks. I don't see any illness there from Al's brother. Tiny bit pale, not going to lie. Little bit, I guess. I did contact him yesterday. He finally got back to me, said he was not feeling great, but it's good to see he's back in good spirits. And we'll have our Super Bowl picks in, I guess, a week and a half right nothing this Friday That's kind of depressing first time in a long time no NFL picks to look forward to right no football this weekend Yeah, it's tough man. Oh, man. Very well you guys are Listen you guys are down to the short strokes now

You got to figure it out and I I want in at least to help doogie and oversee things because I just feel like There's gonna be a lot of bitching and complaining from one side when they lose, right? So I want to keep the integrity of this the right way down the middle. You're not going to help them out. You're fully taking over. Well, listen, I will advise. Because the other guy might go nuts.

Well, can you, and you need to confirm this as an innocent bystander, someone objective, these two complain more than anybody on earth. There is a lot of complaining, remarkably aggravating to hear these two idiots complain constantly. I think it's, I'm not, I'm not trying to be goofy haze. I think it's a pro athlete mentality where it's like, if you're not complaining, you're not trying. And if you're not trying, you're not trying to win how really you know i mean i'll rather not be a good sportsman no i think that

you guys just like brush it off and you're like the loser mentality is now and cares to see the next in a month if we don't do that i'm serious like there's a there's a there's a pro athlete mentality to know it's like there's an old saying if you're not cheating you're not trying and we just we grasp at straws like we'll go down fighting at every last turn. An old saying in Tennessee, maybe Texas, LaSalle, Ontario, I'm sure there's an old saying here in Toronto.

If you're not complaining you're not a pro athlete. That's right. What a statement. Those two complain a lot but there is a competitive nature to them. And I think the two, the ones who complain the most, it's Al's brother and it's Luke. Yeah, of course. You know, those two go at it. And Al's brother complains a lot.

And he's more fiery in there. It's just a backhanded comment. Although he went for it. Al's brother complains about the referee calls and it's like what what's the sense they're not going to reverse the call because the owls brother sitting on his couch our group chat is going to lead to some other universe reversing yeah everything going our way but yeah it's you know it's I'm curious to see what Josh Allen and you know what the bills what they do from here because

I'm sure they're still just sick about it, like sick about the fact that they've got to watch Mahomes do it again and what's on the line for Mahomes, what's on the line for Jalen Hurts. Like if you're Jalen Hurts and you're watching Mahomes do what he's doing to Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson and everyone else in the AFC, you're looking at this thinking, who's beating this guy? Like Tom Brady beat him. Joe Burrow beat him once in the playoffs. Jalen Hurts, it is a massive legacy moment for him. If he can be on record as a guy that beat Mahomes, it is so significant. That's going to be a huge talking point over the next two weeks.

Obviously, the greatness of Mahomes, what what's at stake but we all know that what's at stake for for jalen hurts pretty credible and when you think nick falls who did he be he'd be brady the pads they put it on as one has he he beat the goat and now they've got full circle and jalen hurts and and the eagles have the opportunity to do the same thing to kansas city uh... right bill g Guerin will join us.

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