OverDrive - OverDrive - January 28, 2026 - Hour 1
Episode Date: January 28, 2026Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' defeat to the Sabres, the significant problems on the roster and the direction of the team.... They also discuss the performance of the stars on the team, what changes are needed to be made, the Canadiens dismissing goaltending coach Eric Raymond and Patrick Reed returning to the PGA Tour from LIV Golf.
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What's going on?
How are we feeling?
How's everyone doing today?
I never thought that I would need stinky cheating Patrick Reed coming back to cheer me up,
but that's exactly what happened.
I saw the email.
Cheating Patty Reed is back, and I was like, I was kind of down in the dumps today.
I was like, you know what, kind of cheered me up, seeing old Patty Reed out there at the farmers one day,
just grabbing golf balls in the rough.
Yeah, he's a character, man.
He's a character.
Yeah, I'm all for it.
Bring them back to the PGA tour.
won't be playing until the end of August, I guess,
when the tour season officially comes to an end,
but we'll see him.
That means he'll be down in, like, Puerto Rico.
How is he, like, is there different levels of guys coming back?
Like, I guess Kepka just do whatever you want,
and the other guys, you've got to do other stuff?
Yeah, there are four guys they targeted.
Kepka, Deschambo, Rahm and Smith.
Basically, you guys can come back because you've won two,
you've won majors.
I think it was effectively what it was.
And Reed is very selective,
because he has won a major as we know he's got a green jacket he'll be at augusta right he'll be at augusta
dp world tour and yeah that is uh uplifting i'm i'm i'm an agreeance i'm in agreement with you on that
i like the fact that patty reed is coming back and maybe the wrappers are kicking tires on janis right there's a lot of
distractions in town right now we get earthquakes right an earthquake which i thought was very fitting after
the league game last night did you feel it though i didn't i i i had people like send me notes going
Did you feel that?
I'm like, no, I didn't feel that at all.
So I had an experience last night.
My wife is a earthquake.
Now it was my wife that played the hero move.
Okay, so we were upstairs watching a movie and something started rattling in the house.
You know, and I didn't know what it was.
And actually, I was going to check, right?
I got the tap, like, go check what's going on.
So I got up and looked around.
I'm like, as far as I know, nothing.
I don't know what that was.
Like I heard it too.
Something was rattling.
Something was going on with the house.
And, you know, I come back to bed.
I said, I don't know.
I don't know what to tell you.
Maybe there's someone in the house, but I don't know.
You know, I don't know what's going on here.
So, you know, resume play, shut the mill down, wake up the next morning.
And I get woken up with my wife going right at me.
It was an earthquake.
And I knew it was an earthquake.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm like, oh, of course you knew it was an earthquake.
Scientists.
Yes, hearing a little rattle down the hall immediately.
She always knew it was an earthquake.
I love it.
Yeah, I'm like, I don't think so.
Maybe it was just somebody downtown slamming a door somewhere,
and it shook the earth, hazy bee.
Maybe that's what it was.
You think Craig Baroube is strong enough to do that?
I don't know.
Who would cause the earthquake?
It's a great question.
Barube, Tree Living, Matthews, the fans.
Who do you have?
fan base, fan base jumping off the bus all at once.
Cause an earthquake last night.
Pissed off.
You, I mean, I was saying to, oh, we were on the panel, I said, what's this guy going to be like tomorrow?
And I said, because I tell people, you are the pulse of Leaf Nation.
Okay.
Tell me what is going on.
Because I know how I feel.
Oh, you're going to share your feelings.
Hayes, what do you feel?
Well, I mean, there's nothing positive to feel.
if that's what you're asking.
There's nothing positive.
It was as terrible of a homestand as you could possibly have.
I think Mark Masters tweeted out last night.
That's the worst homestand since 84-85.
Wow.
Yeah.
Only the third homestand of a five or more games where they went winless through all of them.
Both of the other homestands were in 84-85.
We know what happened.
that spring, they drafted Wendell Clark first overall.
That's how awful the leaves were in 84, 85.
So when you are doing something at home that can only be compared to the 84-85 leaves,
it's really sickening and pretty awful.
And unfortunately, it was somewhat predictable.
I mean, that was the game.
I think after they got beat up by Vegas, got beat up by Colorado,
they had their little leaders meeting and all that.
They got their doors blown off last night.
You know, I didn't think Wall played great, obviously, but Buffalo was better.
They outshot them, outchanced, everything across the board.
And, yeah, I think ultimately you're eight points out of the playoffs,
and they're just not a very good team right now.
They're not a very good team.
Oh, what did you make of it?
You know what?
It just seems like the way the schedule is this year,
and the amount of games, it just seems like if you don't have jump in your legs,
it seems like it's just the speed game is what's working this year.
Like just the back-to-backs and the schedule.
And when you get teams like Minnesota and Colorado, even Vegas, I mean, they're a big, strong team,
but they can move out there.
They just, they can move.
And the Leafs just seem to not be able to keep up.
It seems like the other team's skills.
Gil?
Always like dummies, the Leafs.
It's like Quinn Hughes and then Jack Eichel and then Brassimus Dahlene last night.
It was like they have no answer for it.
And they just, they seem like they can't keep up.
They get just, when that opposition cycle gets started, they have no answer for it.
They're a mess in their own zone.
I mean, their coach after the game was like, we've got to find a way to keep the puck out of our net.
Yeah, they score four goals.
like yeah i mean that's the goaltenders too the the gold tenders too but we talked about this
yesterday guys like boston bruin's just looked themselves in the mirror last year and said
this ain't it this ain't working i don't know why everyone's so bent out of shape that that's
more than likely the the outcome here it's like and i found it weird i heard craig button
saying the window of like contending do they really contend is that what they did the last
nine years that were they contenders they won two rinders they won two rinders they won two
rounds.
Well, you could psych yourself into believing it.
You know, they were a really good team.
Okay.
You know what?
Like five or six of those years, they were like the Stanley Cup favorite right after the
team, the guy hoisted the Stanley Cup.
The next year, the Leifster Stanley Cup favorites.
They won two rounds.
Now these guys are not exactly in their prime anymore, so I don't really know what
the expectation would be at this stage of the game.
So it's all going to come down to who's got the stones to make the proper.
assessment and say, even if this team does get in the playoffs, they would get shellacked by
somebody.
Shalacked.
So I don't know who's going to make that call.
Like it's just, I don't know.
The Boston Bruins did it.
I'm pretty sure the Toronto Maple Leaf should be doing it.
And there was talk yesterday all, maybe just like another stature type move.
Wrong, wrong, wrong.
Like another Troy Stetcher type of nibbling around the edges move is not going to do anybody any good.
No, I'll admit I was the guy who said it or at least alluded to it.
What I'm saying is, Troy Stett, like, if I had to circle one thing that is a problem with the Leafs,
if I just said, hey, their D aren't good enough.
I'm sorry.
The whole team isn't, Jamie.
I understand.
But you know what, Austin Matthews had a goal and assist last night, I believe, or maybe goal in two.
Like, he looked like he was buzzing.
Like, if they could keep it out of their net, like they scored four goals.
I don't think their D are good enough.
They don't get out of their zone.
They get hemmed in their zone.
They get running around.
They had some bad bounces.
The first three goals, they gave up four goals in the first period.
One got called back.
Off a skate.
Off a stick.
Three went off their own D-Men.
But my point being is, if you look at that decor as a whole, where would you think they would
fit throughout the league?
Would they be the top, would they be the middle, or would they be the bottom third?
Well, I know what I do.
Very clear.
It's the bottom third.
I mean, that's a rhetorical question.
No, Noodle. We all know the answer.
And we definitely know the answer without Chris Tannave.
Right.
Like the fact is, Tanniv's their best defenseman, and he's out.
Neelander is probably their best forward at creating offense on his own, and he's out,
and has been out for a while.
And prior to being out, he was playing maybe the worst hockey of his career.
So those two guys are going to have a factor on things.
But, yes, I agree with you, Noodles.
And I think what's happened this year is, you know, a lot of the time.
lot of the guys who were relying on, they've just taken a big step back because of where they
are in their careers.
Maybe it's the scheduling, which points to what you're saying, oh, it's just it's too much hockey
and too much and too condensed of a schedule for these guys.
I know, but the follow up to that is you're just not good enough.
I agree.
Like, if the schedule dictates that you just can't keep out, then you're not good enough.
I totally agree.
Like, I think I look at this team without any conversation about retool, rebuild, all that
kind of stuff. Just breaking down the roster, Matthews, Neelander, and Nyes, up front. Nyes has
had a struggling year because of the injury. It's just been a bad year. It just hasn't worked for him,
but I still believe in him as a player. He's a young guy. I think he's a really good player. I think he's a
really good player. I think Matthews, Neelander, and Nyes are really good players. I think in Nett,
you've got to figure out who your two guys are going to be. Wall, Strollars Hill to be. I don't
know if you're ever going to trust that they're going to stay healthy.
It's a legitimate conversation.
I don't have an answer on that.
And I don't believe Tree Living or anyone else can have an answer on that, which is a terrifying
proposition.
But I do think if they're healthy, you can find gold tending there.
So if you have some goaltending and you got a few forwards, okay, that's five players.
Right.
There's 18 that dress every night.
That means, you know, do the math.
There's 13 guys.
Do the math.
You got to kind of figure.
And that's, you know, it's not fair to all of them to lump them all together.
Bobby McMahon's having a great year.
Ekman Larson's been good.
Cowan's a rookie.
This is what should be expected.
He's a 20-year-old trying to figure it out.
There's going to be ups and downs.
Simone Benoit is a sixth defenseman or seventh defenseman on every team in the league.
So that's just what he is.
You know, whether it's the lease or Colorado, it's like, all right, you can plug him in there,
play him 15 minutes, and you'll be fine.
but there's seven or eight players in the middle,
which generally separate one team from the next in this league.
That's where it's not good enough.
That's exactly right.
You look at Minnesota coming,
or even like the Vegas Golden Knights.
It's like they go from Eichel to Stone to Hurtle to Marner to Barbashab.
Dorofaya.
Dorifaya.
Colissar, yeah.
It's like they're impact players that all do different things.
and it's, there's just too big of a drop-off, and you're exactly right, Brian.
But you know what?
You're 100% right.
Like, we can sit and pick apart.
But they just went and got Rasmus Anderson, who's a top-paring defenseman.
They've got Noah Hanof-in, who's a top-paring defenseman.
They've got Shay Theodore as a top-paring.
Like, they've got three potential, call it ones or soft ones, you name it.
Those three, where would they be on the Leafs?
Like, those would be their top-office.
That's my point.
So, again, I'm not just saying.
Oh, it's all this, it's all that.
But you don't have a chance.
Like I had somebody say to me the other day,
if you want to evaluate the Ottawa Senators as a team,
how do you evaluate them when you're not getting the saves that you need?
If you want to evaluate this Leafs team, when they're 100% healthy,
what are they?
They're probably middle of the pack.
They're going to be, you know, fighting with all of these other teams we've mentioned.
They're not healthy, and now they've been decimated,
and they're just, some of their players aren't playing.
that well. So you're like, now you are where you are. And even if you believe, I think the
Leafs aren't this bad and I don't think they were as good as 8-0-2. There was somewhere in there,
right? But here's the thing, though, noodles. This is the most important scouting decision.
There is a difference between not playing well and can't play well anymore. That's true.
And it's a huge difference.
And that is ultimately going to, that has to be determined here.
And, you know, I'll give you a couple of examples of like pillars of the organization,
one forward, one defenseman, John Tavares and Morgan Riley.
Are they just not playing well because the schedule, it's an awful year,
everything has fallen apart, maybe they're dealing with some injuries,
and it's like, you know, I can trust them that they'll get better
or can they just not do it anymore?
Because if it's the latter, you have a big problem.
Correct.
You have a huge problem because they're both locked in,
they both have no movement clauses,
and it's likely going to get worse.
And that's where the trouble starts in the future, right?
Like right now, we're still just getting going.
I just had a chat with Doogie.
I'm like, dude, you've never dealt with this before.
Like, buckle up, dude.
You've never done a 29 game grand.
rind to the finish.
We used to do that in our sleep 15 years ago, right?
When this station launched, we had arguments about Leo Kohn.
Remember Leo Komberoff was a, Leo Komberoff was an all-star, and I remember saying,
I think he's a third-line winger, and Leif's Nation came after me saying, like, how dare you?
Like, that's the thing.
But the point is, there was a time where it was like, you've got to get really creative here,
because the games aren't going to mean that much, you know.
Oh, yeah, that's fair.
If they don't have their pick, it's really going to be a punch in the face.
It's going to be an earthquake.
You know, if they hand over the sixth, their seventh or eighth pick over all to Boston,
and they don't even have their first round pick at the end of this rainbow that you can look to.
Right.
And that's another story that we can get to.
But, you know, at the end of the day, they need to make that determination.
Is Jake McCabe just not, is he a five now?
You know, is that what it is.
Is there a scenario where you can, is Nick Waugh a part of the future?
I don't know.
And these are all questions.
You're not going to get answers today or tonight or tomorrow or between now and the Olympic break.
But it's imperative they get them right.
They've got to get the answers right because if you get them wrong and you say, you know what,
chalk it up to a crazy year and it's not a crazy year, it's actually just the beginning of more erosion.
it'll be worse next year.
Yeah.
And the year after that.
Yeah, realistic, Brian.
It's pivotal.
They get it right.
The evaluation of who they have, what they have, what they need.
And it's got to be a quick pivot.
It's not easy work.
It's not easy because Buffalo's not stopping.
Detroit's not stopping.
Those teams are not going to slow down and let the Leafs catch up.
Saying it's a crazy year is just another version of writing a letter to your fans.
I think it's just a cop-out.
Why isn't it a crazy year for the Colorado Avalanche?
Yeah, Carolina's doing it again and Tampa's doing it again.
It's just this year was crazy for us.
I think it's just a cop-out, man.
Like, it's just do not ignore what you're seeing out there.
And if you think somehow you could get this group of players on the ground
and give it CPR in the summertime and they're going to be back to life next year,
I can't see how anyone in this industry would think that.
I really can't.
To be clear, I don't know.
I don't either. I think they need to really figure this out.
And listen, I don't love, like we'll play the Barubei clip.
Why don't we play it on the defense and the goaltender?
Here's what Craig said after the game about what needs to be cleaned up.
What did I learn about them?
Yes.
Well, we got to keep the puck out of our net is what I learned.
And we didn't do that here at home other than the Detroit game.
It's the only game we did.
but until we decide to do things right and keep the puck out of our net and that's the goalies included
this is what you're going to get we scored enough goals on this homestand to win games but we didn't keep the puck out of
rennet until you want to keep the puck out of your net and that's a couple things managing the game
puck play don't give odd man rushes up defend harder than we are more desperation defending and goalies
fuck that's it
they've decided that they don't want it like they're not into that
we're in getting close to february here
a coach should not be asking for that type of stuff now that's enough
they just decide that they want a wheel and deal and they're going to try to win it that
way and that's what they do so but also maybe they can't
you had meetings after meetings like the coaches tried all these different things
didn't yesterday we talk about how they had a leadership meeting
they might have had closed-door meetings and stuff.
I don't know.
Like, Buffalo is a good team.
We saw it.
They're a fast team.
They've got skill.
They might be the Leafs from three, four years ago.
Like, that's the way I looked at it.
Like that team, looking at that team last night, that Buffalo team's got a few guys that really can dominate play,
and they've got speed, and they play, you know, and the goaltender makes saves.
I don't know what Craig was trying to say last night.
Like, you know, read between the lines or just, is it simple as well?
We're not defending well enough and our goalies aren't making saves.
Well, I mean, it's just such a, to me, like, you know, it's an empty calorie statement in a way.
Like, obviously you want to defend more, but you're 53 games in.
And again, it's like, can they?
Yeah, maybe they're just not good enough.
I said it last night about the Rangers when they wheeled through townhaze.
It's like they were garbage.
They couldn't.
And I'm like, maybe they're just not a good team.
And that's maybe just the assessment you got to get to.
It's like maybe, yeah, unfortunately.
Like, I can't do 29 games of no efforts.
You know, why aren't that, you know, it's like they're, they're, look at their numbers.
They're 30 second in shots against, 30 second in slot shots, 30 second in rush chances.
Yeah.
They last in every single category.
That would speak to a lack of ability and the coach not being able to figure it out.
Now, that coach cannot get this team to top five in those numbers.
No coach ever could.
but I think Craig Barubis, again, I feel like deja vu, where we were a month and a half ago,
doesn't he have to take some responsibility for this?
Like, he's the coach.
They're dead last in everything the coach is responsible for.
How they stop getting, you know, how do you give up 30 second in rush chances, slot chances?
30 first in cycle chances?
Is that the Mike Kelly tweet?
Yes, but it's not a tweet.
It's not an opinion noodles.
No, no, it's a fact.
It's sport logic.
Like, I get that stuff sent to me, Dave.
It's a dead fact.
Yeah.
So I guess what I'm saying is, like, I'm not ecstatic with the goalies, the coaches, the players,
but I think that, you know, Craig, Barube has done a lot of, like, not my problem.
This, you know, a lot of, not my call, go talk to that guy.
I don't tell we do this.
Well, what are you doing to get them to do it?
Like, is he doing anything?
Are they changing anything?
Their pairs are always the same.
He's got Matthews, you know, like Domie and McMahon on that line.
They just can't defend.
Unfortunately, they can't.
Wow.
They can't defend.
They're not top line players.
No, exactly.
But then play them, try to set them up for offensive skills.
Like, you got to change something up.
You know, I mean, it just, it's, it's, I'm worried that it's going to be past the buck season, you know.
Yeah, that's fair.
And that's where we're going to get to that is also going to be tough, I think, for a lot of Lee fans to digest, is they're not going to come out.
and give you a raw, raw, rocky speech.
It's not how they operate.
It's not how the organization operates.
It's not how any of these players are wired.
You talking about the players coming out?
Yeah, I mean, because I've noticed, you know,
I wish someone came out and gave a McKinnon this or a McDavid dad
or someone came out and snapped or someone went out and just broke a stick over someone
and got suspended.
It's not going to happen.
You got it last night with Matthew Nyes,
but that's as close as you're going to get where he said,
I haven't even looked at the standings
I'm that confident that we're going to make it
That's like that's the top of the mountain
Right but that's like delusional more than anything
You know what I mean?
Like it's basically yeah
You know it's and I also don't believe it's true
I think it's another way of just kind of saying
Go talk to someone else
You know I don't know what else to say
But I believe in the room and I get it
You're going to say I believe in the room
And they get 29 games left and all that
But I'm just saying
If you're bracing for someone to lose it
and snap and show that they're so pissed off, that's just not likely to happen here.
It's not their DNA.
No, it's not.
But, I mean, if you're looking at it, like, what are they got left?
Six games before the break?
Four.
Four.
Sorry, these four, and it ends in Edmonton.
But the other three is, what?
Seattle, Vancouver, Calgary.
And then into Edmonton.
I mean, you know, we always set these goals.
Like, it's got to be three or four.
We set goals for this homestand.
Didn't you guys?
Well, how many games were?
I said seven out of ten.
Oh, I said seven out of ten, and they got a one spot, a one spot.
That's Louis de Mink territory.
Not the best.
That's trouble.
Not the best.
No.
It's, I mean, again, everything's must-win territory.
We were talking about it on the panel last night.
It's must-win territory.
It's January, but that's, you're looking around.
They woke up today eight points out.
Ottawa wakes up today, not playing.
They're 10 points out.
Like it's a mountain to climb.
What you need to do is go on that 80 and 2 run to get two points back again.
That's really what you need to do.
It's crazy.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, it's getting closer, though, to flipping to the other end where you're like, what are they going to do here?
Well, I mean, I don't think they can bottom out to get that bottom five.
You know, their pick is top five protected.
Right.
I don't see that happening.
I don't know how that would happen unless they shut them.
million guys down.
Right.
And that would be, you'd have to tell your coach, the GM would be in on it.
You know, that's an organizational decision.
I don't see them doing that.
But, you know, at some point, it's going to get, if they keep going down this road,
where it's like, all right, they're not making up eight, ten, twelve points with all these teams.
They've got to jump over teams.
Right.
You know, when do you just start discussing the draft and acquisitions and all that?
And it comes out you quick.
Like it comes out you quick, man.
It comes at you quick.
Yeah.
All right.
Roll play coming up.
We've got Chris Pronger on.
He'll give his take on, you know, the Leafs and where they go.
We've got Sam Reinhardt, who's obviously going to the Olympics in a week.
So we catch up with Sam and this Janus report that he's good to leave Milwaukee, right?
He was Mr. Milwaukee there for a while.
And now they're brutal.
And he's like, I'm good to go before the trade deadline.
That's how that league works, man.
Just get me out of this.
I'm not doing this.
Yeah, exactly.
And I guarantee he's dying for a trade before the deadline.
Like, don't keep me until the summer because now it's out.
The cat's out of the bag.
Trade.
Like, get me out of now.
When you come out and say that, like, just make it easy on everybody and just do it.
Yes.
Although the organization might, like you know the old saying, there might be something better in the song.
Just who wants the crowd, everything?
It'll be miserable, man.
Yeah, it will be.
It will be.
That leads me to believe he probably does get traded.
and it's maybe moving in that direction already,
and that's why it's just getting out.
You know, like they're kind of,
it's like a soft blow to Milwaukee.
Like, letting you know before,
like this may happen tonight.
It wouldn't even be shocking to me.
So Janus could be on the move in Milwaukee,
and maybe the Rappers are kicking tires.
I doubt it, but it's possible.
So role play coming up,
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a role play level of concern
probably a game we're going to play a lot
you know there's still 29
games left like there are a lot of games
left but it's just the
leaps that homestand was so
bad
pathetic
it was so bad
and even the Detroit game they got a
point in the third in overtime
Detroit just lap them around the rank.
Like it was...
Like it happens, they just get skated into the ground and they can't move.
And for everybody that keeps tweeting me, John Tavares' stats and say he's not the pro.
He's not the only problem, obviously.
But when the pace picks up, you guys all had to have them back here, regardless of the price,
he can't keep up.
He literally can't keep up anymore.
So stop with this garbage of...
He goes on the power plate for two minutes.
every power play. That's why he's got points.
Five on five, he can't keep up.
Riley's got points. Like Morgan's got points, and
defensively, Morgan Riley is a disaster.
I mean, there's no other way to put it.
Unfortunately, it's just, it's an absolute mess every single game.
Name me a player on that roster that's had a career year.
Bobby McMahon.
Sort of, right? I mean, he's at 20-something before, right?
I would say the guys who have exceeded expectations are McMahon,
And Ekman Larson, Hildaby, who's not technically here.
That's it.
Yeah, probably it.
And there's guys who have kind of met expectations, noodles.
Like I said, I think Cowen is a 20-year-old rookie.
This is kind of what I thought.
Some ups and down, some good moments, some bad moments.
I think Scott Lawton, when he's been healthy, has kind of been what I thought he'd be.
You know, fourth-line, rah-rah guy, kill some penalties, will score some goals.
Yeah.
I mean, ultimately.
That's what I mean.
I'm going to say this about Scott Lawton.
You brought him in here.
I don't think he's a fourth-line player,
but you got Nick Waugh,
and they kind of are the same player.
They just look different and go about it differently.
You know what I mean?
Like, Nick Waugh on the third line,
it's like Scott Lawton could be there,
but he's there, so it's like it's the same player.
Now you've got a third line and fourth-line player
that basically do the same thing.
Yeah, more or less.
I mean, Waus 6-4, Lotton's 5-10.
and, you know, they play both kind of the same type of way.
But you're right, like, oh, whether it's Lawton on the third or Waugh on the fourth,
you know, what we're doing is criticizing the bottom six.
It's really the top six, if they, you know,
Boston Matthews was healthy and playing to his potential.
If William Nealander was healthy and playing to his potential,
and then, you know, you go from there.
John Tavares shouldn't be your second line center.
He should probably have been your third.
You've been able to push him down in the lineup.
if you have depth.
You know, we're sitting here criticizing, you know, players,
but maybe if they're slotted better, then they would be more suited to what they're capable of.
We have no choice, though.
There is no depth.
They're slotted where they're slotted.
There's no other option for what's going on.
You have to be correct.
You have to assess what they're doing out there.
Like, just because I wish there was depth where they were playing in the appropriate positions,
but there's not.
So that's what it is.
No, I agree.
I'm just saying we're going through it and going,
geez, I wish that we had this and that.
It's just, at the end of the day, they're short, some players that they needed
and either don't have or unable to acquire.
And, you know, it gets thin.
TANF drops, you know, TANF hurt, now it gets thin.
Or all of a sudden, you know, we talked about it a couple of years or a couple weeks ago.
Troy Stature, man, guy competes, give you everything.
You know what?
But he is.
What he is.
Just to go back to the, just to go back to.
the Vegas Golden Nights.
If Chris Tannave was in that roster and he missed 20 games, they would keep trucking.
If Jack Eichael missed 20 games, they would keep trucking.
There shouldn't be this, oh my God, we can't do it without this guy type of thing for a player
that Chris Tanna at his stage of his career.
Agreed.
That is valid.
Now, again, it's been a reality for nine years that, like the Corps 4, which we laugh about,
but those guys were capable of, yeah,
winning games by themselves, and, you know, the rest of the roster was always kind of put to the side.
Like, that's kind of what it's been.
And now Marner's not here.
And Tavours can't do it any.
Like, I'm not here to jump on John.
He's been a great leave, great player.
Great pro.
Yes, exactly.
I have immense respect for John Tavaros.
It's that, you know, he's not as prime anymore.
Like, he's not in his prime.
He can't be, he can give you, I think, four or five games here, four or five games here, four,
or five games there. I'll bet you after the Olympic
break he comes out and is
moving and scoring and looks refreshed.
I would put money on that.
But he can't over 82
games be a consistent
driver of plight.
I think that ship has sailed.
No, it's not close, actually.
It's not close. And so
that's what I'm saying. To finish
the thought of the Corps 4, Marner's
gone, and what Tavares was
is gone. So it's on two
guys, and one of them's in the press box.
not even playing.
So it's just, it's asking too much.
Even if he was in the lineup, it's asking too much.
It is.
Two guys can't win hockey games.
So who's responsible for that?
Like we haven't mentioned the GM's name.
When does he come into play?
He's a guy that, he brought back all six defensemen you talked about noodles.
They didn't make one change on the decor, not one.
No, I get it.
I mean, everybody, it was a couple of weeks ago before they went on the 8-0-2 run,
where everybody was on the clock.
We asked percentage of the pie whose fault this is, manager, coach.
Remember we had Jonas on, we had spirited, I think we had MJ OU-W-W-Den.
This might have been around World Junior time, was it?
And who's to blame?
There's a lot.
There's a lot.
Like, not everybody, I think the manager, I think the coach, and I think the players all are culpable in this situation.
but I kept saying, well, players need to play better.
And then they did play better for a stretch and it quieted down.
Now it's getting noisy again because it go 4 and 1 at critical times,
and now you're eight points back.
And rightfully so, I'm not saying it should.
Don't get me wrong.
I mean, again, yes, they need to play better, but it's like what Barubei said.
Like, you just got to defend better.
Like, that would be great.
But, you know, it's like say, you just got to skate like Bobby Orr.
Well, no, I've just said.
I've watched Max Domi make a backhand saucer to the middle of the ice.
I agree with the news.
And get picked off yesterday.
That is.
He's done that his whole career, man.
Exactly.
That's who Max Domey is.
But that's my point.
Like you, if you are...
They gave him an extension, long-term deal.
Fair enough.
But if you are in the last minute or last two minutes of a period and you're going to get out of that period tied or feel pretty good and build on it, you got to play like you're playing in the last two minutes, not playing like you're on Tuesday night at chess, chess would.
I hear you.
And that's, those are plays that are killers.
And, you know, I,
they shouldn't be on the ice, right?
Agreed.
Again, like, I'm not, I'm not letting Max off the hook.
I'm just, I'm resigned to the fact that who Max Domi is.
I know what he is.
You know, I've seen him play.
I saw him in junior.
We've seen him play at the,
seen him his whole career.
Good player.
Max is what he is.
Yeah, Max is going to be fiery.
He's going to give you some offense.
And defensively, it's going to be a real problem, you know, at times.
Like, it's just a real.
And the coach knows that.
The GM knows it.
The GM signed them and the coach keeps playing them.
So, you know, what are you going to do?
Ultimately, guys, you get some saves last night.
The game looks different.
Sorry.
You know, we always say it.
I didn't love Joseph.
Joseph, well, had some bad bounces for sure.
Yeah.
But, you know, when they were getting posts and they were getting lucky bounces
and when they were getting the goaltending, things were quieter, right?
Like, I just, I'm not laying at all on that.
It's a big part of it.
Like you mentioned Tampa yesterday.
Someone tweeted out the Vasilevsky numbers over his last 21 starts,
get a 935 save percentage.
That's why they win.
It's that simple.
If Tampa may be better, deeper, yes, for sure.
But they're not the 85 orders.
There's an example of death guys.
They've missed Headman for a bunch of games.
Keep winning.
Yeah.
Points.
Points out.
They had Paul at the start of the year for two months.
Nick Paul gone two months.
It's like doesn't even phase them.
That's what...
Kuturoff started the season poorly.
Like they...
Yeah, he's on fire.
He's not fine.
Like, Kuturoff took a while to get going.
But like, that's one situation where, like, that team, when they're healthy on paper, I thought they were...
They're loaded.
I agree.
When the Leafs are healthy on paper, I still think they're in the muddy middle.
I think they probably are, too.
You know, I think, yeah, I think they're better than O'Four and one.
We've established that.
I agree with all.
I'm just saying, you know, I'm proving your point about gold, the importance of it.
Yeah.
You know, Vasilevsky's still maybe the best in the world, you know, and he's playing like it,
and it's like they can't lose, you know, it's.
Yeah, and I think it's, but you can't ask Joseph Wall that, again, it's the Craig Barouba.
Well, just go play like Vaselowski.
He can't.
No, you're right.
Like, you know, it's not that easy.
Like, well, I just got to defend better and, you know, make more stops.
Okay.
Yeah, I know Joe's going to point to this goal.
This is a bad.
Bad goal. This is a dagger right here.
The Quinn goal goes through the body.
It's 5-3 at that point anyway.
Yeah. Morgan Riley eats a minus
on that, but that's the goalie.
Like that one, sorry.
Didn't, you know, didn't love that goal.
But I just, I come back to that
game last night. At what
any point during that game did you think
that they were going to win?
I thought a 2-1, Matthews is
scoring and, you know. And he was flying.
I thought he had jump.
I thought,
at the end of the period where they gave up that,
that whatever it was,
the three,
two goal,
that's over that.
That was concerning for me.
Yes.
Because they had allowed four goals in that period.
They just got,
you know,
they had the callback goal.
That was concerning for me.
And then you end the second period with a goal against
and then start the third period with a goal against.
That was terrible.
That started the third.
It was a weird breakdown of a play.
But,
like,
you know,
there's Max and there,
you know,
it's just,
it's not,
it's not good, man.
Again, it's unfortunate, but it's where they're at right now.
And, you know, they've got, they've got to find a way to stabilize.
And, again, the GM, the president, Keith Pelley, they've got to figure out what they're going to do here in terms of trying to turn this thing around.
All right.
Come back.
We'll get into role play.
All right.
We were just about to do it.
Sorry, man.
I think I side tracked us.
No, I'm with you.
I'm actually keeping my cool.
I've had people say, oh, the old haze is coming back.
It's going to be old school.
No?
I'm not doing it, man.
I can't do it for 29 games, you know.
I sent you guys a tweet.
Did you see the panic meter and it was on his head?
Craig Verrube's head is a perfect image of the whole operation.
It was crazy.
That head is the homestand where everything got crushed.
Sorry.
It's still upsetting.
It's upsetting to see him.
It's very uncomfortable to look at a human being who is so damaged.
And yet he's so tough.
And he's just going about his business and talk.
You know, he didn't miss a game.
Just didn't miss a press conference.
Like, yeah, I'll go talk.
Yeah, what do you got, guys?
Where's Mark?
Master?
Hey, Mark, what do you got for me?
Like, what?
It's incredible how tough he is.
Yeah.
All right.
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We'll get to roleplay into the next hour.
Some live golf roleplay in there because your boy, Patrick Reed, is making his way back to the PGA tour.
Cheating Patty Reed.
He kind of made me smile this morning.
I woke up.
I was pissed off and I'm like, cheating Patty Reed back at Torrey Pines?
I can't wait.
Well, he's got to wait until next year.
No, I know that.
You remember that rough at Tori Pines and he was digging his fingers around in there?
Was it a mask?
Did they ever declare that he was cheating on that?
No, did he get, you didn't get penalty strokes?
No, I don't believe so.
He's been hit before, but I think it was McElroy who was asked about it.
And he said, he was kind of like, I don't know.
But Reed won that tournament.
And I am a little bit skeptical that this is 100% I just want to be on the PGA tour, right?
His deal was up.
And I wonder if Liv just said, thanks, but no, thanks.
Dude, he can still play, man.
He just won in Dubai, man.
Yeah, he did.
Oh, he's a player, man.
And he's a character.
And whether you love him, hate him, you know who he is.
I'll go watch him.
Yeah, Patty Reed.
All right, there you go.
Back on the PGA tour by the end of this season.
So now you've got to wonder, like, if you're DeSambo, if you're wrong,
are you looking at this saying, we got to get out of here, man.
I have to.
We got to get out.
But the thing is, Deschambo, they're going to offer that guy so much,
they're going to give him a, like, three-quarters of a vote.
billion dollars what's the point though like if you're live you're kind of like what is what does
the shambo even do for you you know like no one cares about live no one's watching live like with
it without the shambo nothing yeah like they keep saying they that they're dumping money they have an
endless pit of money but if it's just sooner or later some guy's going to look and say this is just
this is over yeah got to be but if you would you put 750 in your jeans well your dischambo yes
That's a different conversation noodles.
You're right.
I wouldn't blame him for asking.
I don't blame that guy for whatever, you know.
I hear you.
Cash is king, right?
I mean.
Cash is king.
Have at it.
He may ask for it.
You can ask for whatever you want.
What you're going to get might be a different reality.
But, yeah, we'll see.
It's a wild scene.
We've got to get to some of those farmer picks.
We'll do it in the next hour because Tori Pines, man.
It's a great place to watch, right?
We're going through that California swing.
We got pebble.
We got the waste management coming.
up.
Got a lot of great turnies.
Riviera.
They're back at Riv this year, which is awesome.
So, yeah, that's going to be a lot of fun.
And, you know, more games in the NHL.
And last night, you know, the Habs fired their goaltender coach today.
I saw that.
Which, yeah, like, that's an interesting move this deep into the season.
Well, obviously, they're seeing something there.
Guys, like, I mean, if they needed to shake up or if they identified, that's the situation.
I mean, Leaves fired Mark Savar.
What, was it, 30 games in, whatever it is.
Okay, you can fire the goalie coach,
but if I don't see an improvement, like, with these goalies,
who they've been siebs for a lot of the year and they're still winning,
if I'm that goalie coach, I'd call them up and just say,
how's everything going with the new guy?
Because I don't know.
I get it.
I think sometimes what you're looking for,
and I'm saying this respectfully,
is you need a body on the tarmac.
You need, like, you need to show,
and instead of firing all three goals,
Bulletiners, which you can't.
It's like, hey, we're going to do something different, right?
We're going to bring in a different voice.
That's all it is.
And that's what it is.
It's embarrassing.
The players don't perform, and somebody's got to lose their job over it.
It's crazy stuff.
But that's what everybody does in pro sports.
It's like, that doesn't work.
You see in the NFL all the time, bad offense, like the Dallas Cowboys were like
our defense.
They fired their defensive coordinator.
And in this meeting, their head coach was like, you know, the defense is just,
it wasn't working and it's just like defense wasn't good now so people get fired all the time
but a lot of times the manager are from above they might say we need a change you need a shakeup
do something and it's like okay that guy's sure but it's just gone in that respect to the pros
it's gone zero to a hundred as far as firings and just the what it comes down to is there's no
accountability for the players because they've got all guaranteed contracts and they just say
ah piss on that it's not my fault it's somebody else's fault
That's the main part of all of these coaches getting fired.
The players have taken no responsibility for it.
Because you can't fire them.
You can't move them, yeah.
Our buddy Pete DeBore, hell of a coach, right?
Like, had to go in Dallas.
I know.
You know why?
Because Jake Cottanger couldn't make a save in the playoffs.
And it was like, see you later, Pete.
Pete finally said piss on it.
I'm pulling them.
You can go sit on the bench because I'm not watching it anymore.
But that's, again, you need something.
You need a statement.
And, indeed, whether it's right or wrong, it's unfortunate.
You know, I don't know I'm not behind the scenes.
Something, they saw something there and needed a change, whether, you know, it was a goalie coach or goalies or whatever.
Montembourg's already gone down and played some games.
You know, Fowler was a young kid.
Dobish is.
Those three goalies are good goalies.
They're just not playing to their capabilities.
And like you said, Montreal's still winning.
They're in the playoffs.
They beat Vegas last night.
Like that's what's kind of crazy.
Like the difference was Savard, it was the Leaves were out of the playoffs and losing and not playing well.
Power play was dead last in the league.
You know, this is, I understand they have issues with their goaltending.
Like they've given up a lot of goals this year.
Like to put it into perspective, the HABs have allowed 177 goals against this year.
Tampa has given up 130.
Like that's a 47 goal difference.
And they have 30 games.
games left to play.
So, you know,
goaltending is obviously an issue.
The Leafs have given up more than the Havs,
hence why they're in the position they're in.
But, yeah, it's just, it is an interesting play.
And, you know, the haves are them, Boston, Buffalo.
Like, I think you look at this Eastern Conference and you think,
and this will be, I don't want to keep bringing it back to Leaf fans,
and it's so depressing.
I've got a lot of people texting me, emailing me,
tweet.
saying, dude, this is crushing.
But there's a chance
of Buffalo goes on a run.
Like, literally gets
in and
well... You made a playoff run?
Dude, they're going to play... If it started tonight, they play
Detroit. They can't beat Detroit.
And either way, Detroit
maybe goes on a run. My point is, there's a team
that's going to, like, get in that doesn't
have the history of the playoffs,
Buffalo, Detroit. Montreal's
a little different. They made it last year. They were in the
cup final in 21. But
after 21 they really bottomed out like they committed to like a kind of rebuild retool and you know
is it going to be tough to get through tampa yes if florida gets in will that be tough obviously
but on the other side it's pittsburgh the islanders
like just keep adding there you know i think they're here you but i'm just saying like the
mainstays are tampa and carolina right now that's it like those are the those are the mainstays in
the east well go ahead oh let me ask you
of this, Hazy B. Will you jump on
board with a cheat team? Because
me and your boy, Donnie Nichols,
we want a cheat team, and it might be the
Sabers, and we'll go down to some games and
support the Sabres. Don's not going to like you saying that.
I think it's a greasy place.
Will you join us? Will you join us?
Will you join us? For Buffalo?
What if Buffalo gets
to a conference final?
Me, you and Donnie, get the truck, and we
go down to Buffalo. For the conference final,
I'll get down there. How sickening
would you be that if the
Savies.
These guys, these teams,
Good for them.
These teams have arrived.
It's taken them years to get to this point.
Now they are writing their own story.
So whether they go on a long run or they get in and they just learn, you know, the lessons.
Totally.
This is their story now and it will be interesting to see how far they can take it.
And what they're going to do at the deadline, keep in mind, these teams that feel that they are that close and could go on a run,
they're not just going to sit idle at the deadline.
They might go all in because they buy assets to do it.
I want all the teams that Hazy B called irrelevant and the city's a dump and nobody cares about it.
I know.
Someone's going to, like, you're going to hear it.
Like, I just need to.
No, I got a lot of them here.
Utah's in there right now.
I've taken runs.
Obviously, Buffalo's taking some of the Islanders.
Pit, man, I was yelling for Sid to get out of there two years ago.
Yeah, good on Pitt.
Yeah, there's a fair amount of them in there.
and they still got to get in.
All these teams still got to close.
There's a lot of games left to be played.
Fair enough.
Yeah.
I'm just saying, you know, when you look at the East,
it's Tampa and Carolina are the mainstays and Boston,
but they're a different team than they were.
It's not the Bergeron, Charra, Marchan Bruins anymore.
It's the two mainstays and then a lot of turnover in the East.
So someone's going to get through in the second round where you say,
man, I didn't even think they'd make the playoffs.
You know, that's likely to happen.
All right, Chris Pranger, role play coming up.
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