OverDrive - OverDrive - January 30, 2026 - Hour 1 - Bo Horvat

Episode Date: January 30, 2026

Join Bryan Hayes, Jamie McLennan and Jonas Siegel for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' defeat to the Kraken, the direction of the roster, the value for Oliver Ekman-Larsson and how the team can find winning ways. New York Islanders forward Bo Horvat joins to discuss the season with the Islanders, representing Canada at the Olympics and Matthew Schaefer's spotlight with the team.

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All right, here we go, overdrive off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker up on TSN4. Brian Hayes, Jamie Noodles, McLennon, and there's our main man, Jonas Siegel of the Athletic. What's going on, guys? What's happening? How are we feeling this afternoon? I don't know. I need to ask both of you how you're feeling. I mean, Hayes, you're the pulse of Leaf Nation. Jonas, you report Leaf Nation, and you stir up trouble sometimes.

And, you know, and I just kind of sit here in the middle. and I try to be the voice of reason and be unbiased or maybe unemotional. But man, oh, man, it's getting harder. I'm getting phone calls every day from people here in Toronto, my friends that are leave fans going, it's over. Where are we at? So I will leave the floor. Brian, you lead, and then Jonas, you follow up.

Go ahead. All right. Well, yeah, you might have to respond to those accusations, Jonas. I absolutely will. You will be given the floor. Jonas gets the floor today. He gets the floor today. I even read his follow-up article,

which was good too. Yes, there's a lot to get into today, courtesy of Jonas and the Maple Leafs. I do also want to say, I would love to talk about the karate kid. Yes. I don't know when the expiration on that is, but I got to get it on it.

No, you got to, you have, I think it tells 6 p.m. today. I don't think it travels to San Francisco unless, you know, it travels to San Francisco. The shirts travel. Then it's a whole new world, man. Then we open it up to the NFL, right, noodles?

And I'm looking forward to that. I'm bringing it. It's coming to San Francisco. What about getting one each for Hazen? Oh, and then you can all wear it. Now we're talking, like the idea of a three amigos vibe, because it's kind of got a three amigos vibe. Like, if we get the hat, right, noodles, you know that movie.

It's a great movie. I love that movie. Yes. Dusty bottoms. I'll be dusty bottoms. I don't remember the other two names, but Steve Martin, Martin Short, and Chevy Chase, it was unreal. El Guapo was the bad guy in that. Tell us, you will die like dogs.

He's like, you will die like dogs. No, we won't. The best. It's a sweater. It's a sweater. Remember he gets a sweater for his birthday? Anyway, yeah, well, listen, where are we out? I think we're all wearing black today.

You know, I've had people send me notes saying, are you going to play Hello Darkness? Can't do that for the regular season. Can't do it with 28 games left. I heard that song yesterday, and I was like, maybe they should bring it out. Yeah, it's too early. It's too early. There's 28 games left.

What if something they went 22 out of 28? Well, that would be the shock of all shocks. I mean, I think, unfortunately, what became a reality last night is, you know, the players have just their U-Hauls are packed, you know, at least for the Olympic break. Now, that is significant to point out that the Olympic break is a fresh start for everyone in the league, and possibly the least included. But before they dropped a puck last night, they're 10 points out.

Montreal wins, Boston wins, Buffalo wins. Before they drop the puck, they're 10 points out. And then a minute and something in, they're down 1-0. They're down 1-0. And you realize it's deflation and they're done. And it's over. And Stollars, you know, wasn't very good last night. and they actually outshot the crack in,

which is something that rarely happens. But ultimately, the details of the game, unfortunately, don't really matter right now. You know, it's the bigger picture of what's going on with the team and the direction they're going to take this in. And with every loss, you get closer and closer to looking backwards and thinking, can you drop far enough where you keep your draft pick this year?

You know, that's really at the forefront of it. It's true, though, noodles. Like, it's not. out of the realm of possibility that they could drop so far down the standings because they're already they're like 24th in the league right now. They're already in the bottom third.

But it might have to happen noodles. Yes, it might be the best plan for them is to just tank and pray you find a way to get into the top five and keep your pick. Because if not you're handing a pick over to Boston.

And Fraser Mitt had a goal and two assists last night. Like it's just The problem, again, with the leaves, is just adding insult to injury. Everything is coming up against the Leafs. You know, Fraser Mitten, I believe, promoted to the top line last night. Three points. He looks great. Boston's rolling.

Dubus in Pittsburgh are on fire. They did it again last night. They're well into the playoffs. Like, what's next? Like, what is, like, honestly, what's next? It's Keith. It's Keith will make a run. Keith will make a run.

Here's what's going to happen. Keefe will make a run. Shanahan's going to be hired to like negotiate Kuzma. He's going to hit a grand slam for Canada. And we're like, everything's going against the Leafs here. Although that would actually be positive for Toronto and the country, for that matter. But everything outside of Toronto appears to be positive in terms of the longstanding window here. And it's just not for anything leaves right now.

I was thinking in the last like few days, I can't remember. a week like the last week here where like you think of like all the crazy you know what that's happened like since Marner comes back the Nealander thing the Matthews thing the Barubei

the Barubei is suddenly like bruised and like you stitches 50 stitches crazy and then they keep losing and they're losing and all these like this reminded me of like before this era like that's what it felt like yes it's a throwback that's that's where I was going to go

Brian when we first started like this was When was the 18-wheeler? When was that type of stuff? Yeah, I think it was 14-15. Yeah, it was... Because that's when knownus gets fired at the end, and it's like, what is happening here. Right. And there are similarities to, like, Barube is Carlisle.

Tray Living is known as, you know, like hired by previous administrations that aren't here anymore, Shanahan in particular, but even Pelly, you know, being here now. And, yeah, that's kind of what it feels like. Like, they're getting pumped every night. they're 10 points out. They don't have their pick. They don't have their pick next year.

There's not a lot of hope you can be like, there's no kids you can call up where at least down the stretch you can have some fun and say here come four or five young guys who are part of the future. Was that 15, 16 when Neander Hyman Brown? Brown came up.

Kaepinin came up and you thought, okay, there's a semblance of what the future is going to look like. None of that is available to them right now. Yeah. And Jonas, like even digging into the numbers, They've given up 30 goals in their last, whatever, it is six games. And territorially, they're getting destroyed. Caved in every night.

They're getting caved in, right? Like from an analytic standpoint, right? It's not great. That's why when I look back, like, and I've been thinking about, like, things they could have done, I wonder what it would have looked like if they'd made a coaching change. Maybe it makes no difference. Like, the talent on the roster clearly is not good enough. Like, they're playing, like, no disrespect to those guys.

But, like, Max Stomie played 20 minutes last night. He's playing on the top line. Like, that's just out of place. he's not a top line winger. Bobby McMahon's not a top line winner. I'm like a contending team. They just don't have enough talent, but the coaching, I don't think, has been

there either. Well, and he's very committed to that line. He has not changed that line. They lost six in a row, and they're rolling up the same thing. Not changing anything. And he's snapping behind the bench, Perube, you know, the post game, the post game pressers, he just looks and sounds

very defeated. You know, and you can understand why. Like, they're, they've lost eight of nine and they're 10 points out of the playoffs. And they're massively underwhelming, like in disappointing. Right, like getting palm. Expectations are like.

Right, exactly. Like, and he knows the history. Like, they have been in the playoffs nine straight years. Longest in the league. Longest in the NHL. Right. Yeah. So, like, they're going to have to wear that if this continues.

And it feels very likely, again, it's going to possibly even get worse. Baroube, Tree Living, the players. They got to own that. Well, the thing is, though, if there was a chance to even just kind of change the temperature a little bit, it's Seattle into Vancouver into Calgary. Yes, that's three straight wins, potentially. Should have.

Now, Seattle's a better team than we're giving credit for. Vancouver and Calgary at different spots right now, just based on, I think, where they believe they're headed. And, you know, Vancouver's in a retool, rebuild, and I think Calgary hasn't, you know, done that. that, but they're doing it. They're going to do it by osmosis. So last night was the swing game for me. I was like, you beat Seattle and then get some momentum, go into Vancouver, go into Calgary, and then you take your chances with Edmonton who just wants to mess with people,

and, you know, here's a lead, and then we'll bring it back. You'll play for 15 minutes. But that's what that team does right now is they're not playing 60 minutes. They try and play structure, and the other team, get some goals and it's like, oh, the hell with that. Let's just go and score. Same four guys. Hyman, McDavid.

Same every night. Drive Salis. every night. 94 points. I know. He's going to win the heart. Like, I, you're in trouble. Last night, I'm sitting in bed.

I'm like, he's winning the heart. Like, he's just going to do it because, like you said, noodles. They need him so much to do what he's doing because they're down 3-0. They're, I don't know what the hell they're doing early in the game, just like early in the season. and then McDavid decides that's enough. In conjunction with the other guys who are great players, you know, dry-settle.

Hyman's on an all-time heater right now. Bouchard's on an all-time heater right now. But he is just at a level that is absurd. And I'm fairly convinced he's going to win the heart. I think he's going to win the heart, which would be well-arned. Yeah, Jonas, do you vote? I'm a voter. I do.

You guys are going to vote for him out of spite to me. I know what's coming. Definitely. Both of you're going to give him the vote, even though maybe he won't deserve it, out of spite to me. I know it's coming. Not out of spite, but I do believe if McKinnon had such a massive lead, if McDavid is very close now. That would be my rationale because McKinnon's cooled off. This road trip, Colorado's, you know, Colorado's come, I wouldn't say they'd come back down to earth,

but again, you know, Montreal handed it to him last night. Only the lease. You know, like it. Only the leaves. where they get wins, right? Like, only the Leafs. That's the truth. Like, Vegas came through, Minnesota had

challenges. Like, that's another example of, like, these other, these quality teams. They're running into Montreal. Montreal scores goals, man. Like, they're an entertaining team. They put seven on the board, like you said last night. They came ready to play and quick. Like, Suzuki scored shorthanded, then on the power play, like,

Bing, Bang, Boom. And, you know, Ottawa's putting it together. And the least are the odd man out. You know, they're just They're the odd man out right now. The one thing I've noticed, guys, and I don't know how you feel, but like, teams that have speed are giving the Leafs trouble. And especially in the regular season, and this is just very generalization

when I was thinking about it last night. The team that is built for the Toronto Maple Leafs is built for heavier playoff hockey. But then I kept thinking, you've got to get to the playoffs to be able to play that type, that style. And in the regular season on a Tuesday night, it's just all run and gun speed, no hitting, no nothing. And they are having trouble with that. Seattle skated them into the ground in the first 10 minutes yesterday.

And that was one thing I noticed. Teams that are quick, their D have a tough time getting back and making plays and getting out of the zone. And then, you know, some of their forwards, which is weird, because they're big in that, some of the forwards are shy. They don't want to get hit. And, you know, they don't want to. and the goaltender wasn't making saves too i didn't think stolars played very well you know so that again

if stolors is really good last night the game looks closer to be honest i really thought that's a closer game but i didn't think stolars had his a game unfortunately but speed man is well speed is killing them and noodles like if you're slow in this schedule where you have no legs you're you're done like they play on tuesday in toronto and then at 10 o'clock on thursday in Seattle it's so tough they did that against colorado a couple weeks ago since same thing. And actually, they won that game.

They won that game. It was the, the premium win of the season. Yes. And also the end of the 8-0-1-2 run. Like, that was it.

I think that was like less than three weeks ago. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was a few weeks ago. Then they got pumped the next night in Utah. And they blew it in Vegas. They found a way to come back

against Winnipeg and the rest has been history. And yeah, they're old, they're slow. They're a softer team. Now, they're not alone in that. Like you said, noodles.

Everyone, the league is like that. The whole league is softer. No one's scrum. There's no scrums. There's no fights. There's no hits. But all these teams look like how they used to look.

Like, I can't remember if it was like Jersey. I think it was Jersey early in the air where they just like control the puck and take away. I think it was Montreal too. It's like this is how they used to look. You remember like the early years where it was like, oh my God. They're just so young and skilled and fast. And they're ready to play and they can't wait to play. And now it's different.

They try to play that style like the top line does for sure. If you watch when, let's say, Riley and, you know, who was Riley's partner last night? Carlo. Yeah. So, Carlo notwithstanding, I don't think he moves the puck very well. But when you watch that top line start to move the puck around offensively, they can do it because they've got speed. Max has speed and good vision. Austin, I still think Austin has pop.

I really, you know, you're watching him. I'm like, this guy using his hands, he's using his body. Oh, yeah. He's just on an island, though. He's literally up. an island. Yeah. For the same, Matthews is not the issue.

Like, you can speak to leadership and all that. And he said to own that in, you know, games like game seven against Florida. You got to own that. I'm not holding. No, you made the- Last night in Seattle against Austin Matthew. I think I heard you make the point early in the week. Great point by you, by the way.

Thank you. Where they kind of became like a two-headed star team, right? For years it was four of them. And now it's two, and one of them is not here. Yeah. He's still leading the team in scoring. Like he isn't played. Well, he is. Yeah, like he's in weeks.

You know what I mean? Like, yeah. So it's just him. And he's supposed to play, is he supposed to play tomorrow that I thought I, you know, did we not say that? There's a word. Well, that's the report. Is this concerning for you that he's gearing up the Russian, you know, coming back to go to the Olympics? Like, other than like to get back, like, it must be eating at him.

I hope it eats at him when he's sitting in the stands in Seattle watching his team that. could use him. Like, you know, he's a difference maker, regardless of what you feel about William Nealander, he's a difference maker. And, you know, maybe he's a separator and gets a, finds a way to create another goal yesterday to keep the game close. And, well, instead of Machelli playing with Tavares and Nyes, it's Nealander, and, like, you guys have talked about it.

Like, Tavares is 35. Like, he's just not going to be the same. Yeah, John can't, he's not driving, you know, we took pushback for that because it's like, well, look at his points. I get it. He put up good numbers early in the. year. You know who also has put up good points? Morgan Riley. No one's supporting him. Well, and he's cooled way way. Well, of course he has. Like Morgan Riley.

I meant Tavares, but yeah. Both of them have significantly. But Tavares is really cool, though. And again, it's not about attacking John. It's just a reality of where he is, you know, where he is in his career and, you know, what can be expected. Yeah, what you had hoped, Brian, though, is to keep drawn in the mix and then and have him keep getting pushed down by others. Yes. By Fraser Minton. Remember our conversations after the playoffs. We were like they have to get into second line center now. I've been talking about this for a long time.

And then it just disappeared. And he got off to a great start. But that was a problem and hasn't been fast. Well, if you want a case in point, you go to Dallas and you look where Sagan and Mann had slid. And for years, right? That pushed through, right? Like others pushed through so then Jamie Ben could go, I'll play left wing on the third line. No problem, right?

Because he still has game, still awards. you're still a great leader. Like this isn't about throwing stones at John Tavares. It's going, where is the depth to push him around and the, you know, internal competition to go, can he be a second line center tonight? He's got legs. Fine. If he doesn't, okay, somebody else player X slides in there because, you know, that's the case.

Right now they don't have that. And it's unfortunate because now you're asking too much out of a guy that, you know, father times Jason. That's the reality of it. He's a good player, man. It's the same. Echman Larson's like 34 and he's playing a million minutes. Like they just don't have anyone else. Well, that's, you know, again, we'll talk about the trade plans for a long time

because the trade deadline is not tomorrow. It's weeks away. But those are the decisions that have to be made. Like a guy like Echman Larson, you still have term, you know, the dollar amount, but are you risking it falling off a cliff before you trade them? You know, I think that's a big part of the conversation where I could, I could reason with, hey, you want Ekman-Larsson to, if you're retooling and you want to get back into the dance next year, he'd be helpful on that.

Sure, but you're risking, the wheels falling off. And, hey, you could have got really good value at the trade deadline last year. How much value do you think you have? I think you get a very good, like very good is relative. I'm a little dubious. Two more years? For who? For who?

Like, I've heard, like, everyone's, like, they can just get first round picks for all you guys. Are you sure? I don't think so. Well, I think Ekman Larson would be close to a first-round pick. I think that's got to be the ask, for sure. Depends on, yeah, go ahead, Brian. Well, he's a cup winner.

He's got, again, he's got term. It's not a rental. But that could be good or bad, right? Sure. But again, it could be, hey, this guy, we're bringing them in. Maybe the Leafs eat some of it, I doubt they would. But his contract's really good. He's a guy that plays pretty tough, plays pretty chippy.

He's very comfortable in the playoffs. Like, if you're not thinking you can get that, then what are you how are you selling it? Because again, I look at Brandon Carlo which the Leafs got fleeced. I mean, there's no other way to put it. The trade's going to look worse and worse and worse.

I get he's a right shot and he was younger and they ate some of the money. But Carlo is not a better player than Ekman-Larsen. No, but they got minted in a first. They overpaid though, clearly. Then you got, that's what I'm saying. The Leafs have to find the next team that is desperate. because in the moment, teams are desperate.

Like the Leafs in the moment, we're not thinking of the future. You're right. They're like, we got to get going. Yeah, we think we can win a cup. We're doing it here. I think that's what gets, I guess my point is you lose sight of that. Good point. That there are teams out there that are not thinking of the future.

You're right. They are thinking. And they get the deadline day and they're just like, oh, we got to go. Here you go. Got to have a top four defenseman or a four or someone that's got pedigree in the playoffs. You're my guy. Fine. I'll pay it.

And that's what the Leafs have to do. My worry, though, is I don't think Ekman Larson's a 4. I think he won a cup as a 5-6, right? And that's where he would fall on a lot of these teams that would be acquiring him. So I don't know if a first would be in the mix, but I think you could get something.

What if you got a young prospect? What if you've got a good young player? I think sometimes the thing is, I look at these teams that were in the retooling situation. You know, look at what Montreal did. It's like Chicago's like, we got to move away from Kirby Docs. We'll take them. You know, like we, young centermen.

Ottawa goes and gets a young centerman in Dylan Cousins. You know, for Josh Norris, it's one for one per se, you know, for the most part. I know there was a defenseman involved in it. But it, you know, for me, I look at it. These players have value to your point, Brian. I'm not sure what the value is. It depends on, it's really what the other teams are willing to pay. That's what I'm saying.

multiple bidders for OEL or somebody like that, a McCabe, then you've got to look at it. I think everything's on the table. You decide who you want to move forward with if you are going to trade players, and then everybody else says, hey, we're listening type of thing. And that's fair to say. Well, they've got to figure out a lot of things here. Like you've got to figure out, you know, is it a retool?

Is it a rebuild? What's the vision? Is it going to take a couple years? Is it going to take one off season? Who's going to do it? Is it Brad Tree Living? Is it Craig Barouba? Like that's the stuff.

They got to, that's at the top of the organization. You got to figure that out. Like is, is it, is Tree Living and Burubei your two-pack to get this thing turned around? If it is, then they have, you have to trust them that they'll figure out the right path. Because it could be, hey, we, they could sell them ownership, Pellion. Hey, it was a crazy year, condensed schedule. injuries, we believe we're better than this. Give us a deadline draft and a summer.

We'll figure it out and next year we can get back in the dance. You can roll your eyes at it. You may say that's crazy, but maybe that is the best option. Maybe that is possible. It could be you got to give us basically two years. You got to give me two off seasons, two trade deadlines to bring in some more prospects, bring in some youth, retool some stuff, get rid of a couple pieces that we missed on, or we made mistakes on two years.

Or it could be the best plan of Scores Sturth, which that's a crazy one. That's really hard too. That could be five, six, seven years. Wow. And you've got... There's so many players on a contract. I know.

And that's the other day. That's what makes it complicated. Like everyone's throwing out, just get rid of this guy, get rid of that guy. I think... Not that easy. People can forget what it was like before this era. It's not fun to be a crappy team

And it doesn't just like automatically get better Like you have to do a lot of smart things I mean But it's also not Not good to be just in the middle with going nowhere But it's really hard to like get it right Yeah That's it

I mean you gotta It's a tough It's a tough gig right now Yes Like they don't have their pick This year or next year First round They don't have a ton of prospects

Yeah, it's tough. It's a grind. It's going to be a grind. Yeah, it's a grind. Well, they've got to figure it out, too, guys, what you know, what you're going to do heading into the deadline. So what are we at? A month, just over a month, five weeks away from the deadline, and three weeks off in that, correct? Mm-hmm.

So that's the plan. You've got to go, what are we doing at this deadline? Yeah. Are we going to trade a couple around the edges? or, you know, Brian, like I say, who's going to be able to do that? If Pelley believes in this group, or sorry, believes in chief and tree living, then it is those guys. But if not, you know, decisions have to be made.

Yeah, it's tough. It's tough. All right, so we got MJ coming up. We got Joe Brady coming on today, the new head coach of the Buffalo Bill. So Joe will join us in just over an hour. The Olympic break right around the corner. Bo Horvettes going. The Islanders beat the Rangers back to back, home and home.

home got both of them. The islanders are in a really good spot. Bo Horvott's been great this year. He's going to the Olympics for Canada, so we'll catch up with Bo, get his take on what's going on this season, how he prepares for the Olympic break. Lots to get into it, Bo Horvett. Jonas in here, noodles. I'm Brian Hayes overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN4. With corporate traveler, you get a dedicated travel expert and 24-7 support. So business travel feels effortless.

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Joe Brady, new head coach for the bills coming up in an hour. Mike Johnson will join us. Bo Horvac coming up. Lots of games in the NHL last night, one in the NHL tonight. And, man, there was some wild stuff. Like, again, the Oilers end up winning in overtime. They're down three-nothing.

They score three in a third. Marner scores in the last minute to tie it against Dallas. He looks pretty happy. He looks like he's having a good time. What's that word? Is it Chodenfried? Something like that. He's having some of that for a year?

that again it's just like death by a thousand paper cuts man like you lose twice to marner you know mittens on the top line like the mitten stuff again it's just i've i've said this before and i'll say it again i think this ownership because it's only the owner that can do this he's riding so high after the blue jay run and deserved all the accolades that he got you want to get some positive press you stipulate today that your team will never make a trade again with the Boston Bruins. Never, ever again. Like you literally decree and you put it in paper,

you send it to the athletic and the star and the sun and everyone, and you say, I am issuing this statement today, and it will stand as long as I am owner. We will never make another trade with the Bruins. Like the Yankees Red Sox? Yeah. They ever trade.

Well, after the Babe Ruth deal, it was like, we can't if you're the Sox. And guess who are the socks in this scenario? from Tuka Rass to the Phil Kessel deal. There's not one that I could ever think of... What did the Leaves get back when they traded Thomas Cabrilly to Boston? Is that a first round pick in Joe Colburn or was it? Yeah, it was Bill Colburn. No, it was first in Colburn, I believe, but I don't remember what that pick turned into.

I don't either. Probably wasn't. Probably like Tyler Biggs or something. Tyler Biggs, yeah. Like 100% it didn't work out. 100%. And Cavalier was there. They won the Cup that year. Oh, true. Right?

So you kind of boosted them in the direction. of winning the Stanley Cup. So just make that announcement. I'm begging you. No more trades with the Bruins. Can't do it. Make it easier for everybody. The one team that has destroyed your dreams

the last 15 years. Going to the playoffs again and possibly getting a very high pick. And Mitten looks like a really good player. Stings. Yeah, he is a good player. It's unfortunate. He's a good player.

But at that time, you were looking to add to a group that had a chance to do something. It's unfortunate because in hindsight we can go back and we can throw stones at it and go, geez, this guy looks good, this guy looks good. But what you're hoping is if you get by Ottawa, you get by Florida and you have a run, then you don't apologize for these things, right?

That's the problem. You have to go back and go ahead. I was just going to say, if other parts of the roster this season were better, he probably looks better. The trade isn't like they're a better team. Well, exactly. If they're handing over the 24th,

overall pick. Like they make the playoffs and they went around and, you know, but it's the fact that Minton has looked very good and it's the first round pick that could be very high. You know, that's that has parallels to the castle thing

where it's like we didn't think the team was going to be like this. Precisely that. And it's almost like the Bruins sniffed it out. What's the worst case? Like, is the worst case scenario that the Bruins get the sixth pick? Of course. It's what, top five protected? Top five protectives.

So they end. Yeah, sixth overall. Minton goes on a playoff run like you've never seen before. Waring 93? Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. The reality is, you know, we're digging in here.

But if you're the leaves, you just, it's gone. It's done. Like you can't get it back. So you have to move on. And you've got to figure out what you're going to do next. But credit the Bruins. Like they, you know, Marco Sturm has done a really good job there. You know, and obviously Swamen has gotten back to.

what you would expect and they've they've had a lot of injury problems last year but morgan geeky has been phenomenal for them pastinac has been exceptional and they just yeah they kind of reset they got a new look and a new feel and look what they're doing now you know who else has been pretty good for them it took a year to settle in was lindholm the forward right not the defenseman the defenseman's a good player and they missed him dearly last year but the forward they traded for him and he was not, he did not look comfortable there last year. It looks comfortable this year. So again, remember we had Barry Trots on?

Barry Trots said, you know, he had talked to other managers that when he signed Stamcoast and Marcia's always said, sometimes it takes a while for guys to settle into their new environment. It took all last year, Stamco's and Marcia's so. Stamco's been great. He's had a good season. Yeah, he really has. What, 24, 25 goals?

Like, if you look at it, I, I, you know, Lindholm is settled in. That Boston Bruins team, I was watching that game. I don't know if you, like, they play fast, they play heavy. You know, that Zadoroff is a pain in the ass to play against, that lower rise back into the lineup, that young, big, left shot defensemen. Like, they've got some, they've got a good mix of old and new there. That's the one thing is they've got, you know,

they've turned that roster over pretty quick. Yeah, and that's ultimately what it is. You need an infusion of youth and speed and, you know, that's the modern game of the regular season. You know, it really is. Like you just, you play so many games. There are no hitters. And it's who can fly, who can skate, who can kill penalties,

who can execute on the power play, get some goaltending. It sounds easy. But, you know, that's what is needed. And, you know, there's been a lot of turnover in the league this year. Like in the East in particular, it's crazy. Like Detroit, Buffalo. Alex Tucker is talking about winning the Stanley Cup now in Buffalo. They haven't even, you know, punched their ticket.

it yet to the playoffs. And he's like, we're not just thinking playoffs. We're thinking cup. They haven't been in the playoffs in 14 years. I love it. But Detroit's and Buffalo's in, Pittsburgh's back in. And the New York Islanders are in a playoff spot as it currently stands. And they have won three in a row.

They just beat the Rangers back to back. And man, they're feeling good down there. You're talking about gold ten. And Sorokin has had himself a season. He has been good. He's so good. So good. Patrick Waw has been really good.

And we got a guy in a line who's, been great this year, and he's not just doing it for the Islanders. He's about to do it in Milan for Team Canada. He's going to be a big part of that team. Here he is Bo Horvett joining us on overdrive. How you doing, Bo? Good. How's going, guys?

Thanks for having me. Absolutely. We're doing well. I mean, you guys, how much fun was that the last couple of nights beating the Rangers? It's always good. Yeah, I know a lot of smiles in the room. You know, obviously, Rangers are a good hockey club, and have been for many years, but to get the those two back-to-back wins against him definitely felt really nice.

So, Bo, is there something different this year than maybe last year's team? I know there's been a little bit of different roster construction, but is it as simple as everybody knock on wood has been healthy and playing to their capabilities and maybe an 18-year-old stud that's jumped in on the back end that's helped? Yeah, no, that guy's been really good for us to come. And definitely a big reason of why we are where we're at right now. He logs a lot of heavy minutes for us, power play penalty kill, five on five minutes. I mean, yeah, no, he's a big reason of where we are right now.

And obviously, Ilya has been playing unbelievable for us too. So, yeah, but I think everybody's just pulling on the rope. I mean, when guys have gone down, you know, palms going down, Romy going down, other guys have just stepped up in big ways. And yeah, no, it's just been overall. really good team efforts before this year. Well, you mentioned Schaefer. I was wondering, like, he's 18.

Has there been, like, can you pinpoint a moment where you're like, man, this guy is making me feel old? Yeah, right away. Yeah, no, I, yeah, you know, he's just, he is, he's such a little kid around the rank and around the room, but then all of a sudden he gets on the ice and he looks like he's a 30-year-old hockey player, you know, and it's his first year. in the league. Like he said, he just turned 18 before the season started.

It's, you forget sometimes how young he really is. But he's just been such a stud for us, and he's a great kid off the ice as well. With Beau Horvada, the New York Islanders, another change that didn't happen this year, but it did happen recently would be Patrick Waugh taken over. They need a camera, like a live barn of just Patrick behind a bench, man. Like, he is so intense. You know, who is he going at? Was it Ranting in earlier in the year?

He was freaking out when Ranting and knocked out one of your guys. And, you know, he's been intense his whole career, clearly. But, you know, how is that factored into the motivation of the group? And how has it maybe affected you in particular playing for a guy like Patrick Waugh? Yeah, I think it does. Like, he's, you know, it's contagious. Like, his passion for the game, his love for the game is, you know, he just wants to win so bad.

And it's like, like I said, it's, contagious. It rubs off on guys and guys kind of want to do the same thing. You know, it's just, you know, it starts with him and it kind of goes all the way down through our lineup. So he's been, he's been great for us, you know, and just his motivation. And actually, he's super positive, too, you know, like we could be down in a game, you know, three nothing going into a third period. And he still believes that we have the team and we have the group in there to come back. and win the game. So his belief and his passion for the game

is just rubbed off on us in a big way. Well, you mentioned Sorokin and how great he's been this year, but it's got to feel a little bit like when, you know, Gretzky used to coach, and we've interviewed players where they're like, man, it was weird having Gretzky behind a bench because he'd see something and think, like, why didn't you make that play? And the guy would be like, well, I'm me and you're Wayne Gretzky.

how have you kind of picked up on the relationship between Juan Sorokin, who again, Sorokin's been great, but Patrick was one of the all-time greats in that. Yeah, like, I mean, it would be intimidating for sure as a goal, especially at the beginning. And so you kind of got comfortable, but, you know, like if I was, you know, if I had Wingretti coaching me, I'd definitely be intimidated. But, yeah, I think they've, you know, I think they've, you know, Patrick's nose when to say something and when not to, and I think they have a really good relationship that way

of, you know, the kind of give and take, and, you know, he's been so good for us all year. And ever since I got here, he's been, he's phenomenal goaltunner. We're so lucky to have him. With Beau Horvett. Sorry, how special was it to get the call for the Olympics and where were you?

And what was the reaction in your first call afterwards? Was it to your family or what, to walk us through that? Yeah, it was a pretty special moment. It was actually a crazy story. Like we got a weather delay coming back from Chicago the night before. So we ended up getting stuck on the plane basically all night and flew in early in the morning and got, you know, we probably, we were up all night. We didn't get home until 7.7.30 and I got home and obviously didn't hear anything. as of yet.

So I'm like, I'm just going to try to get a little bit of sleep at least. And literally, it's just as I fell asleep, maybe like a half hour into my sleep, my phone rang. And it was, uh, it was Don Sweeney giving me a call. So I was kind of like half asleep when I got the phone call and all of a sudden, yeah, no, it was tough to sleep after that. So I was running on very little sleep, but, um, you know, it was, it was a pretty special moment for me.

I mean, yeah, I just told my family, all my friends and family right away. and yeah, tried to get a little bit of sleep after that, but it was tough to get that done, but it was just, I couldn't believe it, and something I'll never forget. Yeah, so how do you prepare for something like this? You know, there's so many of you outside of Sid and Dowdy, I guess. None of you have been in the Olympics.

So do you rely simply on Sid and Dowdy, or are you going to have to figure it out among yourselves? What do you think the plan's going to be in terms of kind of wading into Olympic life? Yeah, I mean, I think, yeah, a lot of kids. questions, but yeah, I got Slough with Sid at the World Championships this past year, and you know, he's such a special person, special player that, yeah, I know, he's super easy to talk to and to lean on and to follow.

So, yeah, I'm definitely going to be asking some questions, but I think, yeah, just soaking it all in when you get there. There's so many of us that, you know, are going to be first time, you know, being at the Olympics, and I think we're all just going to have to bond together right away because you don't have very much time to be together as a team before your first game. So just jelling together as quick as possible and get ready for game one. Was there like an event you want to sneak over and go watch when you get there? I honestly haven't really thought about it too much. I honestly, I just can't wait to start playing

some hockey and playing the games. I think those are just going to be the special moments. and, you know, you don't know how much time you have outside of, you know, preparing for the games and preparing for your next opponent and practices and stuff like that to we'll see if we can get to anything else. But, you know, for me, I just want to focus on playing hockey and, you know, the task at hand. What's the intel that you're getting on what the rink looks like and the ice conditions and all that? Are you getting all the reports out of Milan that we are? Yeah, yeah, I was just trying to follow along on the internet

Of what different guys are saying A buddy of mine Who's actually playing over there Had one of the practice games on it And he said it wasn't It wasn't too bad You know, there was definitely Still had some work to be done

But he said it wasn't as bad as everybody's making it out to be So that kind of gave me some hope And it doesn't matter We're all going to be in the same situation And we're all going to be playing on the same my service in the same in the same rank. So we've got to, you know, we've got to

do whatever we can to win. Absolutely. With Bo Horvath, so it's interesting when you look at, you know, the different club teams that are represented, obviously you know, there's different players from all over the league, but also junior players like London Knights

alumni, is there still a connection with the Knights? You know, and as you go over there, Marner's going to be over there. Obviously, he played and Matthew Kichuk, He's not going to be on your team, but he's a night. There's so many knights throughout the league, and there's going to be knights represented at the Olympic Games. You know, how much connection do you still have to your junior team?

Yeah, no, it's awesome. I mean, it's just like a pro factory over there in London of how many guys have come out of that organization. And, I mean, it's a testament what the Hunter brothers have done, you know, to that organization, to the players that have gone through it. It was one of the best times of my life. Yeah, there's lots of excellent night players that are going to be over there, and Mitchie, including, is one of them.

I got the chance to play with him in his rookie year, and he was unbelievable. He was on my line for a lot of it, and help me score a lot of goals that year. So hopefully we've been repeat that in the Olympics. We get the opportunity. Absolutely. Well, you still got a couple games until you get over there,

but good luck with those and safe travels, and we'll be rooting for you. We're looking forward to seeing what you guys got. As you know, the whole country will be behind. you. So congrats on making the team. Good luck. Have fun and thanks for doing us. Awesome. Thanks, guys. I appreciate having me. You got it. Bo Horvett of the New York Islanders.

Yeah, that's back in 1314 with the Knights. Max Domi actually was the leading score that year. Domi at 93 points. Yeah, there was, Bo Horvett was on that team. Mitch Marner. Josh Anderson was on that team. Nikita Zedorev was on that team. That's just loaded. Yeah, Christian Devorak was on that team. and they were loaded.

Anthony Stollars was their starting goalie. Wow. Wow. Yeah, they had. That's impressive, though. That's impressive. 49, 14, and 5. It's a pretty good run. Pretty good run.

You know, when I was going to bring it up to Bo, he talked about the Palmieri injury. Do you remember Paul Mary's last shift this season? He blew his knee out and made a backhand saucer on the way to the bench. You should get Joe from the bridge to pull it up. It's an unbelievable. He got an assist as his knee was blown out. He was limping to the bench, and the puck came to him,

and he backhand saucers it to somebody. It's one of the greatest plays I've ever seen. The guy's done for the season. That was his last play with a blown out knee, and he limped to the bench, and they carried him off the ice. It was unbelievable. That Paul Mary is a pretty good little player. He is, man.

He's an old-school guy. Yeah. Any guy with a beard. Like if you have a permanent beer, like he's always got that beard rocking. You're like, all right, I know how this works. All right, so thanks to Bo Horvett on his way over there. That's awesome. We'll catch up with Joe Brady.

We'll catch up with Mike Johnson and Jonas. You're going to get the floor at five, right, to respond to your article yesterday. Brad Truliving came on yesterday. He wasn't overly ecstatic with it. So we'll give you the chance to respond. We'll get to that in about 10 minutes. Best but still to come as well. Overdrive continues.

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Love it. Yeah. We need a big, big run. Big run. Alice, Brother. Oh, myself, we need to really connect here. Really connect. But, yeah, we're looking forward to that. We'll be in San Francisco next week. We can't wait. Obviously, the Super Bowl on CTV,

TSN. We'll be a lot of fun. The NBA trade deadline next week, right? Jonas? I'm excited. I think Janice is getting dealt. No. Feels like it's too... You don't think so? I just think it's too complicated of a trade. That's the problem. Like, the money involved.

Where he wants to go. Yes. What that team has. Like, it's really... It feels like he wants to go to the Knicks. Yeah, but what are they trading? Yeah. Like, what are they giving up? I love the NBA, though. Like, there's always a superstar trade.

Yeah. Always someone available. Yeah. Like there's even other big names. Like even LeBron, I don't think he's going to get traded. No. But it's possible, right? Like the whole stuff with him and the bus family and everything, you know, it's possible that he's working something behind the scenes. And, you know, it's... Anthony Davis is still out there. Which is, like, he had radically...

Surgery. He's on IR and he's going to get... That's so fitting for... Anthony Davis to be traded while he's injured. But it does seem... Hospital bed. That's actually a possible property. You imagine he gets traded here at FaceTime and he's in a hospital bed? That would be awesome.

A.D., give us your take on once you get out of the hospital how you can help the team. That'd be a great interview. I'd love that interview. I don't think the Raptors are going to do that. But it's possible. Anything's possible. They could trade for you on us. Who knows?

Yeah, they'd have to get real creative with that one. I mean, ultimately, it's actually not that creative. It would be like Scotty Barnes. No, I don't think it would be. I do think it would be a million pecks and players. But why would Milwaukee do that? That's a good question. Why would Milwaukee do that?

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