OverDrive - OverDrive - January 8, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' big win against the Flyers, the team's winning run and the Canadiens' solid performances in... their playoff hunt. They also hand out the mood meter for Canadian team coaches in the NHL.

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Starting point is 00:00:38 Alright, here we go, Overdrive, off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app your home smart speaker and up on TSN 4 You may have thought we'd forget but we never forget that's five in a row for the Maple Leafs And that means the theme song That's the major league theme song the montage is fired up in January the least top spot knees feeling good What a Wednesday in Toronto Freezing but sunny I I'll take it. These days in Toronto, it's not hard to figure out who that song is for. That song is for
Starting point is 00:01:16 a team that is ripping. And guess what? There's only one option these days. It's not for the Blue Jays off season. It's not for the raps. That can only be a baseball these days the it's not for the blue jays offseason it's not for the wraps that can only be a bit to baseball song but it's only for one team yeah very that's not even close not even close it's not even like it you would you play the song you like okay i i get it but there could be other options to raptors are in a rebuild but it's good yeah but noodles how far away like hazy how far away are the Raps from hearing that? Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Dude, it might be years. Is it Butch Goring? Is it Butch Goring? Yeah, oh, they're in Butch Goring territory, man. They are legit, they may be the worst team in the league. What's Butch Goring territory? Well, remember, we interviewed Butch. I don't know if he was on the show at the time.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I don't know if he was on the show I don't think you were here yet He was we were doing this would have been like blue lunch 13 years ago or something yeah, and we had butch Gorman bitch butch Goring in and He was talking about Mike Milbury and what he did to the Islanders Oh, you know and how bad Mike Milbury was and we asked them Specifically about that like what was it like being around you know the Millbury era because it was not far removed from you got like the great Islanders teams of the 80s and he just paused and kind of grabbed his chest and said oh he set that franchise back light years yeah like yours
Starting point is 00:02:40 years light years he used the term light years. Dude, when someone tosses out light years, man, that's when they're pissed. They're pissed. And they really prove a point. Like Noodles, you and I, we were like, yeah, okay. Now you really hammered home your point. It's pretty clear cut at that point. Butch is a straight shooter, but both Hayes and I looked at each other.
Starting point is 00:03:05 That was a pointed shot going, this guy has taken a storied franchise and flushed it down the toilet. That was kind of, I'm paraphrasing, but that's what I got out of that. That was a wild, that's what I got out of that conversation. He has set this organization back light years. Light years. Light years. Light years. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:26 The same doesn't apply here because, you know, Messiah, the guy, and Bobby Webster, the guys running it, were in charge when they won a championship five years ago. So you know, they're never going to get the same level of attention in terms of negativity and people pouring out, but like this is a real struggle. The rappers, they have never finished last place in their history. I guess that's an accomplishment. You know, sure, I mean, it could be worse.
Starting point is 00:03:49 They were an expansion team in the mid-90s. They've come close, they've sniffed it out, but they have never finished in last place. They have a legitimate chance to do that. Well, you've come this far. Start getting rid of pieces earlier than usual, like, honestly. That's what I have to say.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Like, apparently this kid at Duke is something special So take your best shot at it, man You see I did on class night where he posterized that kid I think it was last night or the night before like he went end to end and just Posterized dude speaking at dunk. I could not believe my ears this morning Zion There was viz of Zion and the first comment was he's returning his first game since November. Dude, this guy is probably the worst of all time when it comes to being
Starting point is 00:04:35 injured. Is he not? He makes Joffrey Lupel look like an Iron Man. You just assume he never plays. That's been his history, unfortunately for Zion Williamson, his whole career in New Orleans is you just assume he's not going to play. That dude got paid. He got paid a fortune, man. Obviously he had big money out of the gate. He had the Nike money.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Then when his deal was up, they immediately locked in that five-year extension like Super Max, everything. He has probably made more money per game in the history of pro sports. There's no question. There's got to be a stat for that. There has to be. We should find that. I mean, relative terms, right?
Starting point is 00:05:18 Based on football, you only have 17 games, all of that. Everyone's calculating everything. Scottie Scheffler made 41 grand US every brownie teetered up this year that's forty one thousand u.s. for one one one eighteen for every time he gives up there's got to be some sort of relative you know the analytics people dig into there's got to be a relative you know football basketball hockey golf you name all of the big sports and who made the most based on how much they actually played here's the thing I think it would be a sneaky answer it's probably a backup quarterback yes actually win that
Starting point is 00:06:00 right and wouldn't have nearly as much money as zion williamson and others backed up in the league for fifteen years and had five starts probably made a ton of money and his money per starts would have been really really crazy but do you try to look that up because the i got a thing zions made more money than anybody in in in nba history it does of actually are playing the game.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Like I'm actually performing. I'm looking at his games played since 2019. I mean, the guys played 191 games in five years. They play 82 games a year. 82 a year, yeah. So less than half and Jay Pita said John Wall actually is at the top. John Wall's another one, first overall pick
Starting point is 00:06:43 that was hurt all the time all the time in washington was a yeah with the wizards from every other but i haven't heard that guy's name but it's not the play i don't think he's i don't think he's playing but he's a couple of that john wall the same thing he and zion first overall studs coming out and uh... they got paid and they they showed up but when they did play they give you reasons to believe this could really work out for you but uh... they got paid and they they showed up but when they did play they give you reasons to believe this could really work out for you
Starting point is 00:07:07 but uh... that's a lot of my john wall and zion most money per game you know for actual game while and and mean street clothes that would make street clothes seem like a guy who was you know i was a bill kessel that i don't know games for anthony davis exactly is an Ironman.
Starting point is 00:07:25 The guys, he's going to play a ton compared to those guys. But you're right, you hear that Major League theme song, it's one team. Dude, one team. Because nobody else. The Jays aren't doing it. The Raps are light years. The Raps are light years. In Toronto, C might be the worst of the bunch.
Starting point is 00:07:39 You know? Like the Argos, I guess, maybe. The Argos could win five in a row, but they're not playing right now. Yeah. Keith Kelly, man, he loves those Leafs. Man win five in a row, but they're not playing right now. Yeah. Keith Kelly, man, he loves those Leafs. Man, does he love those. He loves those Leafs right now. Keith loves the Leafs right now.
Starting point is 00:07:51 And he should. Listen, last night, you know, I saw a stat today that they were outshot last night pretty substantially actually. And they are 16-7-2 when being out shot this season and now again They're sitting atop the the division. They're tied with Washington. Washington has a couple of games in hand Washington plays Vancouver at home tonight But based on points percentage, I think the Leafs are fifth in the NHL and they're legitimately in a race And I think that the one thing that Barubei's brought to the table is the ability to hang in a game
Starting point is 00:08:26 where you don't have your A stuff. It seemed like in the past that they were getting dummied in the first and outshot. The game would go haywire because their way out of it would only be one way and it wasn't really the right way. And when they tried to dig out of it, they would spread themselves out so much. The other team would pile on top and make it for nothing instead of two nothing going into the third or whatever the case may be but now it's just like stick with the program stick with the program
Starting point is 00:08:53 and you'll give yourself a chance to win with the skill you got hopefully a goaltending you getting it's it's just a different way of going about business and you see in the results that you cannot argue with the results well yeah play to win the game and they're winning games and you can't criticize a win regardless of how you come about it it's a win is a win we've always said that I believe that a hundred percent you know there's different ways of how you win the one constant with me and obviously you know where I'm gonna go I'm goalie hugger like I think their goal tenet was so
Starting point is 00:09:24 good last night I thought he was phenomenal last night but if you look at it okay the Hill the Beast you know two nights later earlier or whatever yeah he didn't like the first goal but he made some good saves like you know it's it when you have a team that has goal tending it just it allows you in games or like Bo said you don't have your a stuff early on but then you find a goal here You find a power play goal like you do some if you don't trust what's going on in the net your team plays different That has for 40. What are we 42 now 42 games? You can count on less than one hand where you're like geez
Starting point is 00:10:02 I didn't like the goalie play, you know The game in Florida stole ours put his hand up and said, I could have been better. But I think the team could have played better. Outside of that, I can't really think, man. I know I'm just blanking it in. It might be a Hildaby start, a second hurry start. Not even these guys. But we're talking of, you know.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Goal and Stolaris, it's not many. That's what I mean like the goal-tending has been really good rock-solid and then the team settles in or vice versa they get some goal support and then the goalie makes them safe but I do come back to that where you've had some really good goalie performances that just now it stems into the team and then you talk about block shots and you talk about the decore and then you talk About the forwards and some some guys are still trying to find their game
Starting point is 00:10:49 They'd be farther down in the the lineup But your top guys are getting their points and doing what they need to do So well last night like that first period was was crazy bad. I mean at least we're completely asleep I don't think they got a shot until like 14 minutes in yeah, I was I mean, the Leafs were completely asleep. I don't think they got a shot until like 14 minutes in. Yeah, it was quiet. But that's an example where Wall showed up and played. He was ready to play.
Starting point is 00:11:10 And that's the benefit of that position. And what makes it so unique is that as long as one guy is ready to play, you have a chance to win. Like when we were on the panel that night when they were in New Jersey, Stolarz was phenomenal. Like that was the best game He's probably ever played in his career. Yes, the Leafs were horrendous and in the first period they were as bad as they were last night I saw a lot of people saying that's the worst first period go back and watch the tape in Jersey
Starting point is 00:11:35 It was worse 16 won the shots at some point in Jersey It was something crazy like that and we were on the panel watching it saying, this is absurd what's going on here. They're not even awake. And Stolaris was awake. That's all you needed. They survived. They got into the second period. They woke up just like they did last night.
Starting point is 00:11:54 They won in Jersey. They won in Philly. And you know, obviously you don't want to play like that every night, but they haven't been playing like that every night. If you're 27, 13 and two, that's not because of one position. It's not because you get lucky. It's because you're buying into a program. You got a really good
Starting point is 00:12:09 team, a deep team. You're believing in a system. You're applying that system. And with Wal Hazy, you just hope, I mean, I hope he has the same feelings I had. Right. When you become a good player in the NHL, it's like a hell of a drug, man. Like it, like when you realize that you've kind of, you've shown up and you're there, like, hopefully he just kind of really likes that and, and this is the perfect situation for him to kind of grizzle him up a little bit, I hope, where he sees
Starting point is 00:12:45 the other guys going down and he first acknowledges that there's an opportunity for him. It's just the same as the beginning of the season where Stolarz ran and took it. And he has the same opportunity now. But just for him to kind of like grow up a little bit and man up and grizzle up and say, I got to the guy, I gotta be good when I go in, and I gotta stay healthy. Like, there's kind of no option for me right now. So, I hope that he can bundle all of that up and run with it because if he does, it kind of could be a turning point in his career.
Starting point is 00:13:17 As, like to go from the promising kid with talent who's often injured but when he comes in, show skill, to be like a dependable guy in net that gets the job done. That's where I was going to go too. And we've got, I don't know when we're going to get to it Brian, but that list of happy meter coaches and that. Yeah, we've got the coaches happy meter today. It feels appropriate.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I over thought some of the stuff, but in my answer when I do have Barube on the list, some of it was just the concern of some of the health of some of his players. I think that he can be happy as pie at five in a row, but then you're going, am I going to wake up to a text going, this guy's not available, that guy, you know, that's, that's, and you just talked about Joseph Wall falls into that category based on, you know, some of his histories is now we need to see if he can continue with that durability. And it's a big thing. It's the biggest thing. And for me, it's the only thing stopping him from allowing everyone
Starting point is 00:14:15 to breathe and say that's your that's a number one. His stats since he's arrived, and it's not a ton of starts and noodles. I don't know where you stand. I know. Remember, Randy Carlisle used to say you have to play 200 games in the n.h.l. i think it was a three hundred two or three hundred as a defense where you really know who the guy is i don't know how that applies to go tending uh... you know is it eighty starts is a hundred starts i'm not sure his statistics ever since he arrived or elite
Starting point is 00:14:40 they are to leave that's what he is like the right it this year's top five in every significant category you're looking for It's simply health and the beauty of it is stole ours will return He's got this year and next you're going to continue with the tandem Because stole ours is worthy of that as well because of how well he's been playing But wall is the chosen one wall Wall is the guy they drafted, they developed, and they signed before his deal got up. Yeah, but Hazy, when he comes back, don't you think that, like it's, we always said
Starting point is 00:15:14 it was a tandem and whatever guy runs with it, and when Stollars was running with it at the beginning of the season and Wall came back, everyone was like, pump the brakes here, bud, it's his net, he's the starting goal goalie I think wall deserves the same thing I don't want to turn this into like a goaltender controversy whatever because they're playing too well and it's not needed but when Stolarz comes back it's like you're gonna play the odd time but that's the guy right now and you've got to get back in there and you've got to go on a run to earn it back well that's a part of the tandem like a chorus is my playing the best as the guy exactly
Starting point is 00:15:45 Like stores is gonna get in as he should but like I hope wall goes tomorrow and I hope he goes Saturday There's no excuse for him not to no question late No, why why not and then play Saturday against Vancouver? Like that's what I can understand when all mark was playing it would be like he'd play one game and then the next two He wouldn't when he was healthy It's like doesn't this guy know that it needs to go on a serious run here? That's what a number one guy does. If there's a day off in between you're playing the next game, you're the guy. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah. I mean, Olmark was 8-0 and won in his last nine starts and then all of a sudden comes out of the game in Edmonton and I don't have an update. Now look, now they're out of the playoffs again. Yeah. I mean, I will say this. If you ask people in Ottawa going into this nine game road trip, and some of them, like you're Dallas, you're some pretty good teams. You're playing Edmonton. And if you could have said you're 500, I think they would have signed up for it.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Four, four and one, I think you would have put your hand up. I would have obviously would have liked to see five and four or whatever it is six and three but i you know based on losing your starting goaltender halfway through it too i think you put your hand up and say okay like we we made it through the worst but that being said you know detroit's now one five in a row montreal is now and i know that i was like does what is your right
Starting point is 00:17:03 the guy to your right wants to tear down the happy talk but i do have to ask he does i'd be there on a roll there the hottest team in hockey and he said yesterday he would trade everyone does it still they got to stay on a path well they want to comment to the happy times listed there's a lot to get into because my twitter feed was grow blowing up about james dot these name and all of this type of stuff so lot to get into because my Twitter feed was blowing up about James Dutty's name and all of this type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:27 So we'll get into that. But I still believe, and I'm bullish on this and I was taking some heat early on, I think the Montreal Canadiens are going to end up with 84, 85, something with an 8 in it for points. It doesn't matter, Noodle. You don't blow it up right now they got it. You're right. I don't think you blow it up But I think you've been thoughtically and add or subtract to this team for the plan I think 18 months from now, which is a summer a season and then halfway through the following season This is when the team is going to be built for you've got the kid demidoff who still needs a year
Starting point is 00:18:05 Under his belt in the NHL before you think you know you decide if he's a hell of a player You keep adding to this group And if there are players that you can move at this deadline and the next deadline to continue to help the growth of your group I think you do it. I don't know if that's where you went Ryan That's what I was saying is it Kent you spoke today in Montreal and he he wasn't willing to speak publicly on his plan between now the trade deadline which is smart because if what if they fall off and lose five in a row then all of a sudden you have to listen on a David Savard or a Christian Dvorak or Joel Armia or whatever it's going to be. You know and then beyond that what they're going to do in the future with like Brendan Gallagher and Josh Anderson and guys like that. Like Gallagher is the longest standing have, you know all he knows is Montreal, he's committed, he signed a long term deal, he has been healthy this year which is substantial.
Starting point is 00:18:58 So it's so many health issues in the past and I'm not suggesting they're looking to move him between now and the deadline. But what happens with him in the future once you know younger players start to arrive? These are all questions that are big picture that don't have to be answered right now But I do think you know listen full credit to Montreal. They've been outstanding. They have played really well. They've got great goaltending They've shored up their defensive play I still don't think they're gonna make the playoffs and I think a reality check could still be in store between now and the trade deadline and if that happens and you commit to your plan and someone's willing to pay for whatever piece you put up I think
Starting point is 00:19:31 you end up making that move but you know you you you you put something on the table yesterday which can also be accurate oh if it's a fourth round pick and that may not be worth it it's not worth it you know it's not worth it yeah if it's a we're gonna move off a veteran that's important to us for a fourth round pick, that's different. You only do it if the team says we're going to overpay for this. And David Savard's the example of that because he's a one-a-cop veteran guy, right shot defenseman, pretty big, little physical.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Maybe someone will give you a good pick for him. Maybe you'd move on something like that. Right. Well, and the UFAA make it three and a half million too, right? So, you know, and you've got some young kids that have pushed through. They went and got William Carrier from Nashville. I think that was an under the radar, nice move. He's a good player, right?
Starting point is 00:20:15 That Gouli, I think, he's a really... Got to stay healthy. I know. But Kaden Gouli is a player. Like, I remember talking to Pouli when Pouli was calling games. And he said to me mark my words Jamie This Gouley is a player and then you know Hudson seems like he's gonna be I Think he's got a chance to be a really point-produced. I don't know if he's gonna be Quinn Hughes, but I think he's got some flash and dash
Starting point is 00:20:36 I don't know what that looks like but Matheson's a good player They've got you know some players you can move off of I agree agree, if the team is willing to do it. I don't think you just trade people because you're right to get a sixth-rounder, but if there is an opportunity to make your team better or grab a prospect back from a contending team that wants your player, you do it because I don't believe Montreal is a playoff team this year. I hope they prove me wrong. They're still not competitive at a minimum, right?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Even if they get in, they're not going anywhere. Is it worth something of course but I hope that I hope they prove me wrong but my point is is I don't think they stray from the plan even though this stretch has been nice if you end up playing meaningful games which they're going to do down the stretch here I think it's gonna bode well for those young players and New Hook has been healthy and Kirby Doc it's probably the biggest biggest surprise for me because I I
Starting point is 00:21:30 Expected more from him when he arrived in Montreal and I didn't see much and now he's playing with a lot of confidence He looks like a different player third overall pick right like he he obviously was a very talented player You know coming into the league and then Chicago moved off them to tank basically and Montreal picked them up and that was a shrewd play. All right, we've got our mood meters coming up. The seven Canadian coaches, we got Ray Ferraro on the show today. Ray's coming up just after five. His take on where the Leafs are at halfway through the season.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Again, Vancouver, he lives there, he knows them well. The Canucks are in Washington we've got a couple a stadium series games next year in Florida so I am sure will be down there calling one of those maybe you'll be down there noodles who knows. Well isn't it Florida Rangers? Was it? Yes, Florida Rangers and then it's Tampa playing Boston See I'm an alumni of Florida and Rangers. Well get down there I wonder if i could play in an alumni game or something i don't think i brought teams and i would be great
Starting point is 00:22:30 that'd be the first time ever played play for both teams the alumni can we also got to get to get to do some research i heard a story at the gym today in europe faked leonel messy lookalike is wheeling around europe picking up girls and he got busted dude. I swear somebody told me that. Doogie, see if this is true. But like if you think you're going home with Messi,
Starting point is 00:22:54 isn't there like a tell? Like if he's in a 1984, if he's got a Ford Focus wheeling out of a crappy restaurant, that's not messy. Doogie, see if you can find the story and pass it on to Hayes. It's Larry Messy. It is actually true.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Not Lionel, it's Larry Messy. Larry Messy with the bus pass. Larry Messy. Let's take the bus and we'll head home. Okay, interesting, Larry Messy. Oh, remember there was the fake Drake showing up at clubs around Toronto a few years ago. I think he's called Deep Fake Drake.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah, Deep Fake Drake. I'm pretty sure Drake himself tried to put a stop to it. show up at clubs at soros you know i think he's called a great drake deepfake drake it i want i'm pretty sure drake himself tried to put a stop to it i don't know if you can't you know it's an impersonator right out of your allowed to stop that but the guys actually pretending to be like not letting people in on the joke that he's not actually you that i could see being a big concern i swear to God I watched on the Instagram or somewhere on Twitter some fake Drake was like singing
Starting point is 00:23:50 at like a boxing match or something yeah that you got to sue the guy for that you can't you can't have him out there representing you as if he's the real Drake yeah singing whatever song you're singing on your behalf you can't have that yeah it's ridiculous all right do you get to the bottom of that we want to singing whatever song he's singing on your behalf. You can't have that. All right, Dugie, get to the bottom of that. We want to find out if there's a fake messy, you know, somewhere in Europe. And race coming up, arbitration coming up at 5.30. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. your year 2020 start right with new year new you on iHeartRadio new year new you good vibes playlists like party hits chill tracks on lo-fi and motivational
Starting point is 00:24:32 podcasts to crush your resolutions from wellness finances travel and more new year new you new you explore it all at iHeartRadio.ca and on the free iHeartRadio app. Overdrive continues powered by FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Ray Ferraro in just over half an hour. Arbitration in an hour. We'll get to our mood meters for the seven Canadian coaches here momentarily. But shout out to our boy Cam who sent this in.
Starting point is 00:25:04 Found an updated list which includes this season this is specifically the NBA ranking the highest paid players per game in NBA history number one i feel ashamed that we didn't mention this guy this is this is the go. Why no? Ben Simmons Ben Simmons Ben Simmons has made 446 thousand seven hundred and ninety one dollars per game Take that Scottie Scheffler and your 41 grand around this guy makes almost 500 grand per game Has Ben Simmons even played this year? Yeah, he's been playing. He doesn't, you know, same kind of thing.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Doesn't shoot, shows up every once in a while, doesn't bring anything to the table. Very standard procedure. That is crazy. Doesn't he make like 35 million a year? Oh yeah. Dude, his career earnings are 163 million. Oh my God. And he's played 366 games.
Starting point is 00:26:03 That is insane. Insanity. I'm saying that we didn't think of that yeah that is shameful because but he is he is so out of your your headspace yeah that you would forget him number two is Joel Embiid Joel Embiid because his new deal just kicked in so he's making a fortune too right and then Zion is three and John Wall is four So there's your top four You were able to at least quote two of them right off the top of your head. Yeah, that's not bad
Starting point is 00:26:33 Yes, like kawaii kawaii actually had a long career before the like a relatively long career before the injuries Right and even his load management year with the rappers. He played 60 games He did play a fair amount of games that year right and even his load management year with the Raptors he played 60 games he did play a fair amount of games that year right all right rave for our in half an hour we haven't done a Canadian mood meter in quite some time and we felt like it was appropriate with the least winning their fifth in a row last night the Habs have been in the playoffs at points this week the Ottawa Senators have been in the playoffs the Flames were in the playoffs, right? They got a win last night.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Their game postponed in LA tonight. Scary stuff with all the fires in LA. So we figured it's probably an appropriate way to kick off 2025. Let's, let's recap here and let's get back at it. So who wants to start with their seven down to one mood meter? Oh, you want to start this party off? I'll go first. I have some people slotted in certain places for different reasons. Okay so I don't want to hear it from certain markets. It doesn't mean that their team isn't playing well. It might be just a look into the
Starting point is 00:27:39 future where they know they've got a good team and they don't want to be happy because what they have to prove is come springtime okay at number one I have the head coach of the hottest team in the league Marty st. Louis okay is starting number one Marty st. Louis at number Marty st. Louis probably thought this could be the beginning of the end maybe closer to the end at that team start and the fact that they went on this road trip and they're the hottest team in the league right now he's got to be saying because everybody was questioning him oh what are you doing you're drawing lines on the ice with a marker and they can't defend and they're a joke and they've getting
Starting point is 00:28:21 they're getting some goaltending, bringing in the Czech Patrick Wah, and he's got to be the happiest guy in the league. At number two, some people might think this is a little bit crazy, but I've got Travis Green at number two, because he must have took over and said, there's some good players here, we can't get our goalie healthy and they've gotten themselves in the mix. I know they've been on a long road trip but he probably thought this team just can't do it and they've gotten themselves in a position where there's going to be some meaningful games for them. Don't you think that that would make that guy happy after what they would have been
Starting point is 00:28:58 through? I have a very different viewpoint on the screen. It doesn't mean that you crap on my list. It doesn't mean. And it's my list. It doesn't mean. And it's as of today. It changes rapidly over the course of the year. January 8th. Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Number three, I've got Craig Barubate, five game winning streak. He's got to be saying, I just need to keep everybody healthy. Maybe a couple quality ads. Not Luke Shen, not Placanic, a couple of quality ads at the deadline and some quality goaltending You never know where that team could be heading. I've got our Neil After that because him and knob block I've got him one after the other Okay And the reason that they're kind of mid pack right now is because they know they've got quality teams and they know the only thing
Starting point is 00:29:44 That matters especially for the Winnipeg Jets well you can say the oil they're lumped together they got to prove it come springtime they know they're gonna get there they know they're gonna be slotted rather high and they're just got to get through the season and not lose any of their key players Ryan Huska has taken a tumble I love the guy he's done a great job out in Calgary but they started like a house on fire and they've dipped and now they could be in trouble. So he's probably thinking, oh, we're kind of back to reality. Maybe the dream is over for the Calgary flames. They did pick up a win against the junk Anaheim team.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Anaheim last night, yep. And at the very bottom, I never thought I'd say it in the next three or four years, Uncle Rick talk it. The mess with that, those two star players, it's or four years, Uncle Rick Tauket. The mess with that, those two star players, it's just gotta be Uncle Rick, and he must be looking at it saying, what are we doing here? The NHL and two guys don't get along with each other and it's causing problems, my goalie's hurt again, Rick's gotta be pissed off. I think we would all be consistent with the seventh pick.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Rick's across the board. Yeah the seventh rick's across the board i think rick's a great talk it's at number seven on all three of our rec a triple record is a little rick yeah yeah has to be uh... okay this is interesting cuz i'm looking at my close that i have got a different list and i have a very different list i just tried to put some different thinking into a guy who said to you if you want to just say uh to just say you gotta you gotta think outside the box here that's what i did
Starting point is 00:31:07 okay what no yes i can tell you think my list is crap well i i i question how much thought you actually put into it it looks like talking about alright you're calling us out for not putting any thought into it haven't seen our list yet you put thought into it you've got your list i like it mart You put thought into it. You've got your list, I like it. Marty St. Louis looks sharp. He's gotta get that goatee going on these pictures though, man, right?
Starting point is 00:31:31 He's got facial hair cooking in 25. That green suit was phenomenal. Doogie, when this is all said and done, put a poll out there. Who's got the best list? I can't wait for that. I can't wait. All right, doodles, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:31:40 I have a differing list, but I. Go ahead. So at number one, I went Arneal, because Winnipeg, on fire little dip, but they're just I mean They're a very consistent team the only thing I would concern about Morrissey left the game last night But he it sounds like he's a question mark tomorrow, but be available the next game like health would be the biggest thing Oh, you talked about it like these top teams, and I could probably lump three of them together But I'm just
Starting point is 00:32:05 I'm going Arneal because I think he has to be happy with the consistency of his group. They've been pretty darn consistent all season long, and he's got to be happy with that. They had a four or five game stretch, but outside of that, they've been, you know, you expect them to win nightly. This was a toss up, but I went noblock. And the only reason why I went to on him is Because of how Edmonton started like that They had a poor start and then they've dug themselves out McDavid still isn't been a house on fire as far as scored last night
Starting point is 00:32:35 But he has it hadn't scored in like nine games. It's been dry settle for me who would be in the heart conversation He should be the leader. I mean we talked about yesterday Noon's on fan duel who would be in the heart conversation. He should be the leader. I mean, we talked about yesterday Noonels on FanDuel. McDavid's won. I want to say McKinnon's too. Kaprizov three. Drysaddle four.
Starting point is 00:32:50 No, I have a differing opinion on that. I agree with you. I think Drysaddle has been the best player in the league this year. Yeah, so I went with Knobloch just because he trusts his team and they kind of show up and have won in a lot of games. I think they're 13-2 and one in their last 16. And then Berube at three. Got to be happy with whatever they're throwing out there.
Starting point is 00:33:11 They're getting wins, no matter if it's great goaltending performance or it's a special player steps up. My where I was going to go and it speaks to all these coaches, but especially with Berube, just that, as I mentioned, when we're talking about Joseph Wall, he wakes up to a text going, 34 is not feeling good. You know, Joseph Wall, what goalie is available to me? I think that's his only worry. You know, McCabe, that was a scary thing the other night.
Starting point is 00:33:41 So I think it's more just the injury bug that they've had to go through all season long. That's what would worry him and keep him up at night. I will go with those Marty St. Louis in the four spot, just based on how well Montreal has played where they were a couple of weeks ago, you know, where it was talking. We were talking they were at the bottom of the league. I think you also got to give Marty a nugget because we had him at the bottom for so many times. So, if you had Marty, you would be gay. Listen.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Marty was fuming at the bottom of the league. Furious, not happy. Any team that has picked up that much points, considering, I always look at strength of schedule too. They had to go out west, they had to go through some pretty darn good teams, and they got points and that was impressive and they come home and they find a way to get it done. So I had Marty at four, I had Travis Green at five, I laid out going through that road trip losing your number one, there's still lots of concerns but I think overall he's
Starting point is 00:34:37 happy with the way his group has been able to hang in there and respond. So I had Greenie at five. Ryan Huska could be higher because I think we all expect the Calgary to be out of it and dropped out of it and some point be sellers and all of that. And they're right there, they're in a playoff spot. They're grinding away. So I have Huska at six, even though he could be higher.
Starting point is 00:34:57 And then, you know, Taukeed, I don't know what to say other than he's a brilliant coach and he's got a goaltender that we're not sure in and out of the lineup with Demko, although the other guys play, like Kenneth's played really well. But then this, this fiasco, Pedersen, Miller, Kutcher, it's just very noisy. He can't be happy. So that's, I thought my list, I thought it through. You could easily change, interchange some of the top guys, but that's the reasoning why I put it that way
Starting point is 00:35:25 I hope you didn't say that I thought it through as in I didn't well Oh, I'm not saying no I insinuating we weren't going no When you said you were like, I don't think you put a ton of thought to that. I was insulted I'm like, oh, I thought I thought outside the box. I it is I think both of your lists are very reasonable. I think they're both wrong because I have my list coming up here in a moment, but I think they're very well thought out and reasonable. I was of the impression you were going on the premature attack or premeditated attack. I thought it through.
Starting point is 00:35:59 You guys weren't going to think it through. I think I might have overthought it. My thing is where I slaughtered guys, I might have overthought it. My thing is where I slaughtered guys, I might have overthought it as basically injuries and where guys are available to them. So that's kind of where I went. Well, you can see it both ways on that. So, okay, here's my list.
Starting point is 00:36:16 And this is the coaching happy meter, the seven Canadian coaches. At number one, I have Craig Borube. I have the Maple Leafs head coach at number one. His team has won five in a row in Philly last night, his hometown, and they're sitting atop the division. They're tied in points in the Eastern Conference. That never happens with this team. The Leafs have never had that type of history, ever, in terms of actually chasing the division. That had to be the messaging in camp. Is set yourself up well well avoid the two and three
Starting point is 00:36:45 seed. Now it's not over yet but this is when we're starting the list on January 8th and as of today I think they've accomplished all they could possibly accomplish especially considering Matthews has been out but that's the flip side of your injury comment noodles. I think he's got to be happy that 34 is back and has looked great but he looked pretty good again last night. Skating well anyway you know he's skated But he looked pretty good again last night. Skating well anyway. You know, he's skated well. He looks pretty comfortable the last three games.
Starting point is 00:37:08 I think that's very comforting if you're Craig Barube. So I got Craig Barube at number one. Wow. Yeah, I mean there it is. Captain's return. He's got how many points? He had two points again last night. You know, five, seven points in three games since returning for Austin Matthews.
Starting point is 00:37:25 That's pretty good. That's going to make Craig Barube, I think, very, very happy. So I got Barube at one. I have Marty St. Louis at two. All of that noise and you got him at two. You were acting with the other guy like you had him at six. No, I have. I'll tell you, I have it six. He copied my list. I did not copy your list. I have Marty at two I think he can make a case for Marty at one I do think you have Marty you just
Starting point is 00:37:53 For Marty st. Louis, that's not true. I did not ridicule you for Marty st. Louis It was think that who you had at three I think is where I actually disagree with you and I'll get to that momentarily The Habs I I thought coming into the season would be the worst team in the country and the first month and a half I was patting myself on the back like a lot of people and they have shut me up ever since line A returned and now he's not even available to them every night. This Lane Hudson kid has been phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:38:23 They've gotten gold tending, they're back in a playoff race. They're healthy Defensively, they're playing way better. Yeah, Marty's at two for sure I got Marty Marty st. Louis at two Chris Knobloch of the oil is at three because of the start I think they're chasing Vegas Vegas won again last night Vegas has been really really good But Edmonton they could win that division still. Like I would lean Vegas as of January 8th, but it's not a foregone conclusion. Edmonton's red hot. Skinner was really good last night. I got Husker at four. Calgary Flames, again, I had Montreal's the worst team in the country and Calgary is the clear cut second worst team. And they are
Starting point is 00:38:59 still as much in the playoff hunt as Montreal is. So yeah, they've had dips and ups and downs, but I'm sorry, at any point during the season of Calgary's within striking distance of a playoff spot, Ryan Husker should be ecstatic, ecstatic with his team. And they continue to do that, winning last night in Anaheim. I have Scott Arneal, the Jets, at five, in large part because it started 15 and 1, and it felt like you got a chance here at some Bruins history from history from a couple years ago and that ship is sailed now, right? Like it's gone. I don't know if they're when the division you got Minnesota on their heels
Starting point is 00:39:34 Dallas has struggled but Colorado's look good. Mackenzie Blackwood noodles has looked outstanding. Yeah, he's been great for them He's been really good. They won last night, but part of that they had lost three in a row They've lost to Anaheim a couple times in the last week or two Again, it's Someone's got to be at five. I got our Neil at five. I got Travis Green at six In large part because of the All-Marx situation like all mark when he was red hot two weeks ago noodles You were with them. They were on fire beating everyone It was like they had a they had a big it felt like a gap between them and the second wild card
Starting point is 00:40:06 and the Pittsburghs and the Columbuses. Then he gets hurt. Now a week later they're out of the playoffs again. They're not technically in the playoffs on January 8th. I think point percentages they are. If they started the playoffs today. But you're right. We're semantics.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Sure. They are. All right. Okay, fine. But based on points percentages, we're semantics. They are. All right. Okay, fine. But based on points percentages, Travis Green is happy. But if I'm green, considering what I'm dealing with here, where they need everything they can get to get in, they need everything they can get and they need Omar. Plus, plus.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah, maybe. You know, again, I think they should look around the other teams they're competing with and feel like they can beat them, right? You should be able to keep up with Columbusumbus and which is not a real idea you gotta do it this is your year to do it and again this may change in two weeks but as of today compared to where they were two weeks ago i i can't imagine travis green is as happy as the five guys in front of all i guess is the way to put it the
Starting point is 00:41:01 process of elimination i mean the canadian hockey fans are very fortunate right now they're all in the hond's they're all basically the playoffs are real close to it it, the process of elimination. I mean, the Canadian hockey fans are very fortunate right now. They're all in the hunt. They're all basically in the playoffs, so real close to it. It's a great time to be a Canadian hockey fan. And then triple Rick at seven. I got Rick Tuckett at seven. That said, Vancouver's still in the playoffs right now.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Like he's foregone conclusion. That's the thing about it is... So there's my list. Which is, you know, we all have different opinions which is great. Thoughtful. There's Craig, he looks great. Craig Barube looks miserable. He doesn't look that miserable in his face.
Starting point is 00:41:31 He's never had a big smile on his face even though he's very funny and quick witted but he always looks miserable even when he's the happiest guy in the building. That's him in a nutshell. But I think there's an argument for a lot of different guys to be at one. The only difference is seven. I think we all concur that Rick's in one just based on the other stuff. But it is good to be watching these teams play meaningful hockey, including the Montreal Canadiens.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Because, you know, a month ago it wasn't and the thing is is a month from now it could be different. I've said this all along and I wholeheartedly believe this. Five wins in a row or five losses in a row and you're in trouble and especially in the Atlantic. That's what you're seeing. What are you laughing about? Can you put O's List up again, please? Joe from the Bridge. Please put up O's List. Why?
Starting point is 00:42:32 I want to confirm. Because this guy Fletcher just tweeted in and said, O looked at the map of Canada. It ranked from east to west. And it's true. Dude, that is the stupidest thing you went Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary, Vancouver you went east to west the fact that you didn't bypass that tweet and you stopped and acknowledged it and thought it was funny Fletcher picking that up this is a really astute observation funny
Starting point is 00:43:08 This is really a student by the way no Because if it was going more east wouldn't it go Toronto Ottawa Montreal or no no or no no that's Other way you're good. There is something to to them and i think you looked at a map of the uh... right through the whole dot look at the map of canada that's that when you would not go i acknowledge that he probably said that dumb bastard just looked at a map of canada and he was a pinch any just start repping up uh...
Starting point is 00:43:40 like he had thirty seconds and pulled up it like he he basically said who are the teams in canada right you'd you block that it's a lot of you that's a lot of that kind of block and report him that's a use of behavior and that is i want that deleted from the after the podcast don't put that up on youtube so i don't forget i acknowledge that yeah uh... so yeah go, the mood meters.
Starting point is 00:44:05 We'll see what Ray has to say about that. Ray Ferraro coming up in 20 minutes. And again, Vancouver is in action tonight. We'll get back into the Leaf game last night. We'll play that Joel Farabee in-game commentary about his fight with Connor Dewar last night. That was cool. That was really good. It was a good tilt, man.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Like Dewar, I knew he was a Western boy. I've never heard of the town. He's from somewhere, Manitoba But you it's one of those things where you do judge a book by its cover You look at the town he's from you're like he can fight yeah, I know how to fight because that was his first fight as a leaf and Yeah, he's from the paths the pod PAS the pop the palm and it's over you can fight he knows how to fight dude i'll be a hand in the right look at that guy's bio in the bathroom like
Starting point is 00:44:51 that's a no-go man that's a sneaky guy that you think i'll take care of him and then you realize where he's from and you say he's a guy with the office job that just doesn't say boo to anyone in life sees them in the penalty box saying, thanks for the fight. And the guy goes, yeah, no problem. He doesn't know what to think. Only in hockey, right?
Starting point is 00:45:11 That's it. You're there for the night, free tickets, and you're like, these two guys just beat the hell out of each other and they're thanking each other. So we'll play that. We've got Buster only audio from the morning show this morning of first off, talking about the Blue Jays and what they're going to do with Vlad E and how disastrous this awesome
Starting point is 00:45:31 situation has been so far. I'm glad he said that instead of someone in the market. Yes. Buster's, he's got no skin in the game. No. Completely objective on the outside looking in. So we'll play that. We'll get into it later this afternoon.
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Starting point is 00:47:11 it's all necessary. They need some more golf commentary. Like they need a guy like Fax, a guy Fax on there. Yeah. Because they got some ESPN personalities where it's the golf, you know what golfing people are like? They're like, they want to hear a golf guy. Yes. where it's the golf, you know what golfing people are like? They're like, they want to hear a golf guy. So I think it was kind of cool, it's different. The one thing I picked up from it was, and that should be applied to regular golf,
Starting point is 00:47:32 is the shot clock, where it doesn't take that long to hit a golf shot, man. They had 30 seconds, you put your ball down and you hit it. People take way too long, and I know I play fast, and everybody says, oh oh you're a moron But these guys like they had 30 seconds We had a shot man. He plays faster than anybody on earth. Yes. That's why he was so comfortable last night So I think too he just got up there and fired away man. And yeah
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