OverDrive - OverDrive - July 15, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jonas Siegel, and Jason Strudwick for hour one of OverDrive! The guys discuss the Home Run Derby and their thoughts on All-Star games. Steve Sands from the Golf Channel and NBC joined the show to discuss Scottie Sheffler's dramatic press conference. The guys asked Struddy for his opinion on oceans.

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Alright, here we go. Overdrive off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app. Your home smart speaker. Up on TSN 4, Brian Hayes, Jonas Sie home smart speaker up on TSN for Brian Hayes Jonas Segal of the athletic and there he is Jason Strudwick with us in mid-july how we doing struddy? Ah beautiful day here in the capital city out west we call it out west out here so everything's good how are you guys I've missed you Jonas. Likewise I missed you too I'm always excited when I know you're going to be on the show because I know like suddenly I've got an ally, somebody to team up against Brian. That's

all I ever want. Is that how you see this playing out? You two against me for three hours? Common sense versus whatever you are. Okay. That's your common sense candidate right there. That's your guy that's representing common sense. Struddy of all people. Come on, Strut. Be sensible, please, and admit that that's an outrageous statement by Jonas. Oh, I completely agree with him. He's off to a great start.

30 seconds in, he's one for one. I'm not surprised, Jonas. Yeah, Cal Raleigh. That's who you are, what it takes. You just hit and ding her after ding her this week. You watch? I have a very difficult time. What bothers me

is now they're using like everything's about again exit velocity and you know how many like how hard is he hit it how far does he hit it as opposed to actually hitting the home run you know like and we talked about it yesterday and I think as you get older you get more cynical and all-star games become less and less important for me anyway I can't speak I guess for you guys but for me it just and this applies to every single sport I just don't care nearly as much as I used to but I found it difficult to follow along I think it played out the way baseball probably wanted it to play out like Raleigh's having this phenomenal season, greatest offensive

production for a catcher in history, and he's leading the league in home runs and everything basically across the board. He goes out and does that last night. And it was, I guess, kind of cool theater, but... It was cool theater. His dad was pitching to him. His brother was catching. I know. I know. And that's what you wanted. Come on. Yeah. But how did they know that he had a home run that was...

It was like point... It was less than an inch I think. Point five inches longer. Hey watch, we gotta slow down. We're gonna go back to the tape here like just be honest and say we want this guy to move on and that's what's gonna happen. Alright. Conspiracy.

Yeah I'm a home run derby conspiracy theorist. That's where I'm going. Two minutes in. That's where I'm going strut. Yes. Conspiracy theory two minutes in. That's a new record derby conspiracy theorist. That's where I'm going. That's where I'm going, Shred. Two minutes in. Yes. Conspiracy theory, two minutes in. That's a new record even for you, Hayes. Now listen, I watched some of it and I think I'd appreciate a lot more if I was live, if

I was in the building with my kids or some buddies and I feel about that for every All-Star game, whether it's hockey, basketball, football, I'm not sure. Football's a joke now. It has been forever. Let's throw that. I apologize. I'll take that one back. Let's strike that off the record, Jonas.

And then baseball, right? So I think for that kind of stuff, I think it's really fun. But to watch on TV, it's hard to get that same sense of excitement. Now, the feel the dreams moment with the dad pitching, I thought that was awesome. You know, then I went online, I kind of read about who was pitching for who and why and all that stuff. Like I do, that's cool. But when I'm watching on TV, it just, it's not the same energy, right? It just doesn't translate the same as maybe a World Series game or, you know, whatever, a final. So I hope not. Maybe it's come to Toronto at some point that that'd be neat to be

that's what that man for cool. Yeah, I think like it was here in the early 90s when the dome opened. That's what Manfred was saying. I think it'd be really cool. Yeah, I think, like it was here in the early 90s when the dome opened, and I remember as a kid, like there was a lot of buzz, and the Jays were huge at that point, and obviously the Sky Dome was the eighth wonder of the world at that point, and I guess it's going to return to Chicago. The Cubs are going to have it, I think, is it next year or in 27, I believe the Cubs are getting it, and they haven't had it in a a long time but then the j's would be next up

and if you pump money into your stadium the way rogers just did the blue j's did you know the all-star game is coming and i agree with your your comments their stride like it just it would mean so much more to be in the park to see also the actions of all the guys like the superstar players who were not partaking in the event who are still there and kind of supporting everyone and they all have got different allegiances and I just again, I think it's I get it. I'm an old guy now and it's cynical and yelling at the clouds, but like the home run derby and the slam dunk contest, that was everything when you were a kid. And now they've

both completely fallen off a cliff. Like Mack McCl can he get a bat go and start hitting home runs but the guys not even in the NBA why is he in the slam dunk contest and what's amazing is I think he jumped over the car last year for the second year in a row or like yeah we get it whatever yeah thank you very much like move on please you guys like any events and also games I still like the three-point contest. Yeah, three-point. Three-point is quality because you can't really screw that up. You know, like it's the same what they're doing today is what Larry Bird was doing, you know, 35 years ago for the most part. I just, it really comes down to star power, I guess more than anything else. And last night, like Cal Raleigh is a star now,

but he was not a household name in years past. You don't think he is? If you ask 100 people who watch baseball, if they know who he is, 95, I bet. Don't. You're kidding. 95 people don't know who he is. If you watch baseball?

If I walk down Yonge Street and I just said, do you watch baseball? That's a different story. Walking down Yonge Street is not a perfect science, but you're saying like people that enjoy the game, if you are a baseball fan and you don't know who this guy is, you're not a baseball fan.

Maybe you're a casual baseball fan. Yeah. Okay. But most casual players, like my kids are pretty into sports. They didn't know who it was. They were sitting there watching like, who is this guy? I'm like, well, he's a baseball player.

And you know, baseball, we kind of follow the Blue Jays. We're not not you know, my kids aren't wild in Washington, but they do you know, the tick tock or whatever they're watching, they should know what these type of let's players they didn't know. Whereas in basketball, hockey and football, they would know those three guys that that level of athlete like the upcoming guy, they know him more than the rally. I think that makes sense. And there were a lot of young guys, you know, in the home run derby last night, that would not be household names, and there were a lot of young guys in the home run derby last night that would not be household names.

Like young guys trying to make it. But that I think speaks to the fall off. Like if that's Judge and Otani in that last night, it is must see, you gotta watch it. The two of them are going at it. And we say the same thing in the dunk contest all the time. Like LeBron ruined that because there was a time when if you were a superstar that could jump the way he jumps, you have to go in the dunk contest all the time like LeBron ruined that because there was a time when if you were a superstar that could jump the way he jumps you have to go in the home run or in the slam dunk

contest. Was he ever in it? I can't never remember. I didn't think so. And it's like Jordan was in it like Vince was in it. Dominic Wilkins. Wilkins was in it exactly. Spud Webb was in it like all these guys that were like famous and LeBron is not known necessarily as a dunker but he is a supreme athlete in the face of the league when he didn't go in it then it just slowly you know filtered off where guys are like I'm not I'm not going in this you know it's Aaron Gordon it's Josh Smith that was going in it guys like that who great dunkers but you need the star power with it to make the event pop and I think that was an issue last night I had with the

home run derby is it's just not guys that I'm overly interested in watching in the spotlight because I don't know enough about them. A home run is a home run. Like it's still you're mashing and it's great but it it you need the kind of build up unnecessarily rivalry but you need some theater is that the best nickname in sports you know his nickname the big dumper

yeah it's not bad is it good though what were some kind of a couple of others most flattering nickname you know like the big unit or the big hurt that they have a big jumper does not just mean big ass? Yeah, that's historically what I always thought the kind of answer was. Does he have a big ass? I couldn't tell. I couldn't really pick up on that either. What's the genesis of that name?

I don't know. I haven't done my research on that. But I guess once the nickname sticks, right, Strud? There's no getting away from it, man. When the boys start calling you something, that's what you're going to be called. Yeah, and I don't know that that's really the handle. I'd want like guys. He's pretty awesome player Maybe doesn't I'm not saying that bothered me But like I'm hammering home runs all over the place the best way you guys a big dumper like guys Let's get together here. Let's spitball a few ideas. Yeah, you know this plane, right? Yeah, exactly We're flying, you know coast to coast here from Seattle to Atlanta. Let's come up with something else, right?

Well, we got four or five hours. Let's see if we can come up with something else. But I again as much as I'm complaining about the lack of star power in the home run derby last night I think there's gonna be a sense of nostalgia for the All-Star game tonight because Again, you're looking at it through the lens of when you're 10 years old 15 years old 20 years old and growing up you know in Toronto and it was always through the lens of okay which Blue Jays gonna make it and who's gonna have an impact but I do think interleague play has had a big effect on the All-Star game in terms of the lack of hype because everyone faces everyone now like remember when we were kids,

that was a big part of it. Like the Jack Morris was gonna face somebody in the National League, or some big National League pitcher is finally gonna face an American League bat. The Yankees and Dodgers are gonna face off because they never do. Now, literally you play every team in the league

every single year, so generally speaking, there's gonna be matchups that you've either seen or you know you're going to see at some point. But I do think Skeens versus Judge tonight has that kind of aura to it. And I think Scoobal against Otani is similar. So it's not quite as much,

but like Scoobal is the man right now, I would say period. Like as great as Skeens is, I think Scoobal winning the Cy Young last year and the Tigers being the top team in the American League and what he represents, I think that's the buildup we're looking for tonight. And I think that's the whole game for me.

Like I don't care who wins and loses. I'd like to see Vladi do well. Kirk will get in there off the bench. I'm sure he'll do well. But give me Skeens versus Judge tonight. Give me Scoobel versus Otani and I'm happy that's what I want. Do you guys remember that World Baseball Classic when it was Judge or no it was Otani against Mike Trout and they were teammates yeah and it was the final it was two outs in the ninth yeah and I think was a three

two ball game or whatever like you can't script anything better than that and that was meaningful like tonight uh... schemes get a face judge in the first inning and they don't whatever yet i can see him twice but uh... still i i can recall as a kid or even not even as a kid like i i remember when like how they would be in the all-star game like i was gonna face pools tonight i've got to see this i got to see this because I need a horse

like a pitcher that has that aura and it's it's not as Prevalent in the game anymore like the 230 240 inning guy who's just mean and nasty and throws heat You know is going deep that guy doesn't really exist anymore, but Skeens feels like he's kind of bringing it back. You know, like he's got that kind of Noel and Ryan, Roger Clemens swag to him. The big unit. The big unit. There's another guy. When Johnson would face somebody, you're like, I got to see this guy. I got to see what he's got.

Yeah. And that's why I think there's still magic in the All-Star game and Major League Baseball. Well for me guys, my first memory of the All-Star game is when my dad showed me a little bit, I wasn't exactly functioning at that point, but when Pete Rose ran over the catcher. Like to me, I don't know, we'll never see a moment like that again.

To do that in any level of All-Star game, I know that he wanted to win, and he's talked about it before, he spoke about it, but I just, like to me that is It's an all-star game. You know you have a dart hanging out of your mouth waiting to catch the ball at home plate and someone plows Bed on that game do we probably Gotta get home Yeah, I'll do it myself. Exactly. He had a stretcher

prop. Will we see someone on a stretcher tonight? We'll do it. Plus 2000 and Pete Rose is, you know I'm hammering that. Like that, isn't it amazing that that's a completely legitimate question? Did he bet on that game? Yeah. And the answer has gotta be. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, possibly. Like there's a good chance Pete had some action on that. But can I ask you, I was like, do you... Shardy, I don't know if the... Has Edmonton gotten an NHL All-Star game in any recent memory? I don't remember. No, I don't remember. I think the last time was probably when, you know, the 80s. I'm just guessing. I don't ever remember it being here. There's talk about it coming here now because,

you know, the Iced Dristic is at or near completion. But no, I don't remember it in my adult life being here. Am I wrong? Yeah, which is surprising with the new stadium. Like, yeah, you build a new rink. But I was just gonna ask you guys, do you care when it comes to your city? Like, I know.

Well, it was here in Toronto last year. I know, and I covered it, so maybe it's different, but I don't really care. Here's where I found it certainly more interesting, simply anecdotally, because I knew people that were going down, and we did a show downtown, and that was cool, and we had people come by the show, and there's an energy in the city.

The Biebs was there? Yeah, exactly. Were there the Biebs on the show? I didn't care about the game anymore. It made no difference to me who won because it was in Toronto. But I do think it stood out clearly more than any other All-Star game for me because it was in the city and I know where the events are taking place and I know people that are going down and it creates some sort of energy that generally isn't there. Yeah I mean if the games in St.

Louis there's no energy in Toronto or in Edmonton or whatever but the games in your hometown that's why I think it's gonna stick around. Yeah I think people realize that I think the big corporations within the individual markets, they love hosting the events and having the stars roll through town. And you know, we'll see. Yeah. Yeah, for me, it's for the local people, the local community, the kids, and then the sponsors in that community or whoever wants to come.

I feel the same way about the outdoor games. I don't like watching outdoor games on TV. I'm sorry. To me, it doesn't get me very excited. Now, when it came here to Empton a couple years ago, I went and I enjoyed it. I enjoyed watching it. It's fun. There's atmosphere. There's a buzz, but I'm not picking up that buzz from Carolina when I'm sitting here in my house in Empton. I'm sorry. You're just not getting the buzz. So I think it's for the local market more than the wider audience. And I feel both the same way for the All-Star

game and that, Jonas, both those two events. I think you're right. I think the outdoor games are a great example of that. Like when they first started hosting them, I was definitely intrigued early on and it looked cool. And they've been to Wrigley like five times and Fenway six times. It's like, I don't need to see that anymore. That was cool when they first did it and we went to the big house and I was there at BMO in 16 that was a really cool event like that was a really cool outdoor event Leafs won an overtime Matthew scored an overtime was actually an incredible game like it was a fun game and but you're right Strud like now

you see it it's like Anaheim LA in California. Why do I care about that? There's just no way you can sell markets on it unless it's your own market. I don't think you can do it. Out of market it's irrelevant, but in the market I think that's important and I think it's important for every market to experience that so they can stay there, there, you rotate it around. I agree and Ryan saying that the last time the Oilers

Hosted the All-Star game was 1989 Wow. Yeah, that feels like a Gretzky's out. We'll give you the All-Star game There's a conspiracy theory in hockey in 89. No right now. Oh, I know. Yeah, exactly I think I'm pretty sure they're waiting for they're waiting for some the area to be completed I think we're getting I was down there had my two belts on finish up a few projects Okay, so hopefully that'll speed it up. We'll get it get it here in a couple years Yeah, get it here in a couple years The good thing with the MLB also game is like there's literally nothing else on. Like literally, right? Like there's nothing. Tonight's-

It's a wasteland. Yeah, there's nothing going on. This is where the NHL or the NBA, both who have had a very lackluster off season in terms of creating news. Like the NBA in particular, it has been horrendous for them. Based on their standards where it's generally so crazy and there's so much player movement, there's big trades trades there's been nothing of substance happening in the NBA and I would argue the NHL is not far behind

You know, I mean there was some stuff leading up to free agency. There's been some minor contract conversations But tonight's where you need a McDavid extension strut like tonight's tonight, right? Just completely blow blow blow past the all-star game and have McDavid take over the sports scene tonight I think that'd be a brilliant play I think it'd be a great PR move if I'm the Oilers I'm like tonight's the night man we need you to sign an extension tonight or we're trading you. The 5 p.m. press conference. What's over or under August 1st before or after? I'm guessing after no one really seems in a rush here I Or August 1st before or after?

I'm guessing after. No one really seems in a rush here. I believe it will get completed. I don't know how long it will be, but I don't sense there's a real rush on it. And no one has been pretty busy, right? They just fined off fine lines with coaching staff, fine or retooled it I suppose with so many people leaving. So now I think they can get to that.

They also have to get now block ahead a new deal. So I think that it's on the things to do list. I think for Connor, like he got to kind of decompress after a pretty busy season, two big seasons actually. Yeah, well listen, McDavid, they're gonna go on his timeline. He's gonna let them know what he's looking for and what he's comfortable with. Like I don't think the negotiation is overly

difficult. Like not a negotiation? It's like, this is what I want. Basically, like if he wants four years at 16 million per then that's what he's getting. Yeah. You know, he's not haggling over no movement clause or anything like that. Like it's, you know, the Eulers I'm sure are saying, take your time, let us know what you're thinking and we'll figure it out. Because the Eulers obviously want to make it oilers I'm sure saying take your time let us know what you're thinking and we'll figure it out because the oilers obviously want to make it work and I'm sure McDavid wants to make it work and there shouldn't be any rush but what's interesting is we haven't seen any of those big 2026 guys signed yeah there's been no extensions which is it's a good point because I

don't know it's just like Capri softv's up, Eichel's up, yeah, Connor, yeah, Kyle Connor in Winnipeg, that's right, obviously McDavid's up and yeah and there's even other guys who are not superstars but are capable of signing extensions and with the way that the NHL just operated, the way they just showed their cards, like we're going to try to keep our own guys and we have enough money to do that. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw more extensions from more middle of the pack players, like a year out, which has not been the nature of the sport in the past. Do you think more guys will actually want to test free agency like Marner? I don't know, man. Like we didn't see that this year.

Like he was the outlier. All three guys went back to Florida. Well, he didn't to Florida and see right well I know but he picked his spot they worked out a deal and he wanted eight years and But I wonder if like more stars are just gonna like look at him be like, you know What I'm gonna go market see what I can get maybe take a shorter cut I don't know but that didn't happen like, you know, Sam Bennett could have done that he didn't John Tavares could have done that He didn't you know, like who else left?

but there was a big reason class kind of went well right but that would to me would speak that to more opportunity like if there's no one else like if you were if you were a big free agent if you were more now it sounds like Marner just wanted to go to Vegas like that's just what it was I'm going to Vegas and I'm gonna work off their deal in Vegas clearly it would appear basically said if Rantanen's getting 12 in Dallas that's what you're getting and he just accepted that but I would think if he if he made it to the market and actually said I'll simply go to the highest bidder like there would have been he would have got more money he would have got a higher cap hit and there would have been a lot more teams

you know kicking tires on them I don't, I'd like to see that happen next year with someone, like two or three guys of substance make it to July 1st just to see where it ends up, you know. And I don't know who those players are going to be, but it does have the potential for that next year because there's a lot of really good players that need contracts. When I look at Miko Rantz, that's the guy thought the michael free agency but did he really like dallas is a good spot to get me wrong is that really the spot he want to go to enough martin truly vegas i get it and and again about crap on dallas here

but i think he could have gone anywhere he can look around you obviously said no to carolina that's clear good at the end of that what what do you have that's that. Could have come here. Well, yeah, that was maybe another missed opportunity. But do you know what I mean, guys? I always felt when I was going to Fraynsev, I wasn't at those level, or friends of mine, I'd be like, if you like where you're at, just stay. And if not, don't just pick another place to sign there.

Here's the case in point. Bo Horvath, is he happy that he's in from Vancouver to Long Island? Now both teams have been, I guess, middling, although Vancouver was pretty good last year, but Jonas is like, why would you sign with the Islanders? Like what? God, she's so excited. You're right. He got traded there and then he's just like, yeah, I'll just sign.

It's like, okay. To me, it almost looked like he's like, I'll show Vancouver by signing with these people. Well, what do you do? You just signed your life away with the Islanders. A team that to me, even then, how could you say this team's going up? Dallas Stars, yeah, I can see it. They're a good team.

They've got some different range of age of players, some good players, goalie, all that stuff. But I look at Bo Horvath and I think, why? Why would you do that? Well, here's the flip side of that, is imagine Jonathan Hubertos said, actually I'll play this one Calgary that guy's on a PTO right now Maybe not a PTO, but he's not getting ten and a half and like ten and a half on a long-term deal and Everything you're saying about Bo Horvat and the Islanders you could you could clearly say about the Calgary Flames right now

Like they're not a contending team and I don't think they will be for the next two or three years. Thank God he signed. Like if you're a humanoid you're like, thankfully I took that deal and I didn't spend a second in Calgary before I decided to sign. Just take the money. Well, I mean it can go both ways, you know, because you're not wrong Strud. Like they're both avenues.

There's positives and there's negatives and pros and cons but yeah I don't know I'm I'm curious to see what happens here with the NBA and the NHL like if we're gonna see the fireworks that everyone wants to see at some point like because we kept hearing you know rumors and reports again from people connected insiders gonna be a lot of trades trades are coming well when are they coming when's that gonna happen there was Durant yeah I guess so but yeah that was a crazy trade but Durant's even lost like he's not who he was back in the day but even in the NHL like Bo and Byron just signed a two-year extension in Buffalo I presume that means he's gonna stay yeah

remember it was gonna be the summer of the offer sheet again? Yeah, offer sheets are coming, nothing's happened. I actually know. Like nothing's happened. So yeah, maybe we just need a McDavid. I like that they're shortening the contracts though, for the new CBA. Right.

So it's gonna go from seven to six and eight to seven? Yeah, if you stay with your own team, it'll be seven now and if you leave it'll be six. Better. Yeah it's it's inching towards fun a little bit more activity and possible turnover but yeah there's there hasn't been a lot of it and that's why the Marner scenario was so unique not only the market he left and the market that he went to, and someone actually sent me a picture today of him skating, he's still in the GTA, decked out in gold night's gear.

It's a weird look, man. What do you do, maybe you can answer this, Shadi, what do you do with your old team stuff? Well, that's a pretty big question because with Marner and Toronto, that was his team. So I guess you keep some, because you get a new bag obviously and all that new gear. So I think you just pack all your Toronto stuff up and just put it at the back of the garage and maybe revisit it at some point. It's not like you go down to the plate again, sporting place and just chuck it in there and say,

I'm never wearing this again. Like I think, like I still have stuff when I played a variety of teams. I just kind of, you know, pull it out for different events, whatever. Well, cause I asked like before July 1st, Bradshaw Living did an availability at their practice facility and everybody's gear,

including Mars was still at their stalls. I was like, I wonder what's gonna happen to his stuff like They just gonna like did they keep it like do they own did they have ownership over it all? I don't know because he would have taken he would have taken some gear home already, right? Right took his his game gear then that's the practice gear then the practice here Those those take it off and then the training camp will give it to a child guy. Yeah to wear right for tryout Mitch Marner gloves I remember I used to have like whoever's gloves at training camp, like, ah, this doesn't look good.

It doesn't look like I'm making the team if I'm using someone else's gloves. Some guy from, like, here's Charlie Huddy's gloves. Yeah, yeah. They're like, oh, this isn't good. Doesn't look good. It's not even modern. You're gonna love it in the minors. Yeah.

Like some guy from the 60s that played, I'm like, I'm in big trouble here, man, if I'm using this guy's gear, but yeah It was kind of like a whoa moment for me like someone sent me the pic and I'm like man That's got the 93 and because like Vegas is loud too. I get a lot of loud gloves and loud Everything and that's that's gonna be something to see him every single day. That's what he's wearing, likely for the rest of his career. All right, the Open Championship starting on Thursday. Steve Sands coming up, our buddy from NBC and the Golf Channel, get his take on what he sees coming this week.

And Scottie Scheffler, he got deep today, Scottie, on whether he's satisfied with golf, what's the point of winning? It was a wild presser. So we'll play a little bit of that, we'll get into it with Sanze. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. All right, coverage of the 153rd open from Royal Portrush on Overdrive brought to you by Subaru. Head your local Subaru dealer for lease rates from 1.99% for 24 months on Select Models, C dealer for details, Steve Zan's coming up from Royal Port Rush in just a moment, our friend from the Gull Channel and NBC. But Scotty Scheffler, he was up at the podium speaking for five, six minutes. Very existential stuff.

I loved it. Like very deep. We've basically montaged and cut this down about a minute and a half. All right, here's a taste of what Scottie Scheffler was saying earlier today. To win the Byron Nelson Championship at home, I literally worked my entire life to become good at golf, to have an opportunity to win that tournament. And you win it, you celebrate, you get to hug my family, my sisters there, It's such an amazing moment, and then it's like Okay, not now. What are we gonna eat for dinner? You know life goes on showing up at the Masters every year It's like why do I want to win this golf tournament so badly? Why do I want to win the open championship so badly I?

Don't know because if I win it's gonna be awesome for about two minutes And then we're gonna get to the next week, and it's gonna be like hey you won two majors this year How important is it for you to be awesome for about two minutes. And then we're going to get to the next week and it's going to be like, hey, you won two majors this year, how important is it for you to win the FedEx Cup playoffs? And it's just like, we're back here again, you know? So we really do. We work so hard for such little moments and, you know, I'm kind of a sicko. I love putting in the work. I love being able to practice. I love getting out to live out my dreams. But at the end of the

day, sometimes I just don't understand the point, you know, because I don't know if I'm making any sense or not, but am I not? It's just one of those deals. You know, I love the challenge. I love being able to play this game for a living. It's one of the greatest joys of my life, but does it fill the deepest wants and desires of my heart? Absolutely not. I'm blessed to be able to come out here and play golf, but if my golf ever started affecting my home life or it ever affected the relationship I have with my wife

or with my son, that's gonna be the last day that I play out here for a living. This is not the be all end all, this is not the most important thing in my life, and that's why I wrestle with why is this so important to me because I would much rather be a great father than I would be a great golfer That's some heavy stuff. That is some heavy stuff. I can't picture Tiger Woods ever saying something like that or feeling that way ever Here's our good friend Steve sands from NBC and the gold channel live from the open championship

Sansi you've you've had a few hours to kind of chew on that what Scheffler was saying today. What do you think he was trying to get across and what do you make of his stance on all that? More importantly, I came from Tahoe last week, the celebrity event. If I have to hear, we are the champions again, whatever Matthew Kachuk stands up to the teeth, make me puke. Thank you. Good. Just make me puke. I walked up to him on Saturday and said enough already. He goes, okay, Caps Boy. Oh my God. How can they win two in a row? No kidding. And they might win a third in a row. That's what's scary, Steve. They're the best team in the league by a mile. I was talking to him. Not only I was talking about that, not only are they the best team in the league.

So it's that Maurice can coach man. I mean, he's got to figure it out. He's got it all down. They got it all going on. They've got another year or two window here in a win three, another one. It's nuts. Big time. But anyway, you know, Scottie's a fascinating guy.

Um, Scotty, I think I've said this to you guys before on the air or off, whichever way. I don't think I've ever been around a professional athlete in any sport and all the years I've been doing this, who cares less about being a star and only cares about winning. You know, stardom comes with winning in all sports and he just has no interest winning in all sports. And he just has no interest in anything other than just playing golf and hanging out with his family. And that's it. That's who Scotty is. Everybody wants him to be a fist pump guy running around going crazy kind of that Tiger era energy. That's just not him, man. He is all business all the time. Yeah, and I appreciate that. You know, I think what he says about his family

and all that, I think a lot of people would feel the same way, but he's expressing it. And yet he's the number one player in the world. He wins all the time. It's just a crazy kind of mentality. Do you remember the Anthony Rendon thing that he said? Yeah, but that was so nonchalant. Like Rendon was like, I don't want to play anymore her

but i don't think that's what scott is saying right stands he like he what he wants to play loves to play in a weird way it's like not fulfilling for him which is kind of a crazy thing to say cuz i'm sure other players are like well all take your spot then all be number one in the world when tournaments be worth all this money i'm sure i would find a fulfilling kinda crazy that but he's not

basically saying i'm never going to be satisfied with golf this is the wild kind of way to put it a couple things about one is as a diehard national sent i mean that i have a very empty red dot yes i have a little world series in twenty nineteen but let's not put it to your Don't in the same sentence, even the same paragraph as Scotty Sheffield. He's a nice, nice player, but he's not Scotty Sheffield. Here's the thing about Scotty.

I'm not a deeply religious person at all. We weren't born and raised that way in our house. I have no problem with people who are religious. I'm just not a religious guy. He has deep faith and it's not fake. And he's not someone who wears it on his sleeve too often. And I like that. I like that he keeps it to himself

and it only comes out every once in a while. He's not trying to profess it onto people all the time, which I think is a cool thing that he does. Cause he sincerely has a deep, deep faith. He's been with Meredith forever, like literally forever. And his family is, and God are the two biggest things in his life. He just happens to be an amazing golfer, an all time golfer,

best player in the world right now. And I don't even think he's close, not saying he's going to win this week, but I think he's the best player in the world, not even close. And it's third on his list. Again, name me another professional athlete who is the best. I'm talking to Gretzky, Connor McDavid,

you know, LeBron, Michael Jordan, you know, go down the line, Tom Brady, go down the line of all the sports that we all know and love and enjoy Roger Federer and all these guys know that joke of it's the tennis, the golf, the horse racing, the hockey, the, whatever sport it is always comes first when you're the best because you've got to be selfish at some point to get to that level. It's such rarefied air and Scotty is not like that.

He never has been. And I don't think he ever will be. He is satisfied being a great golfer and playing great and winning championships. But what really makes him tick is his family and his faith. And that's just something that people are going to have to understand here for the next couple of decades as Scotty keeps this up. You know, Steve, I heard it a little bit differently. What I heard from him is that he's constantly trying to win every week and once he wins, you're joined for five minutes and then you move on because you've got to prepare again

to defend your level of play or defend whoever is coming at you. So I heard more like kind of what's it, because I think he used the words what's the point. He's just like, it just never ends. It'll never end and I wonder if maybe he's not finding that a bit hard because you're never, you're not just done. You don't climb Everest and you're done. You have to climb an Everest every single week because there's people chasing you and there's never that chance to, you're not done.

You're just never done. Yeah, I mean look, I heard it the same exact way. I guess I'm interpreting it differently, but I heard it the same way you did. Let's put it in, like you guys mentioned before I came on, you said you wouldn't hear Tiger Woods say that. Tiger Woods was singularly focused on, and forget all the off course stuff, I'm not talking about that, he was singularly focused on being the best player on the planet. That's really truly all he ever wanted to do and be. Michael Jordan, same exact way. That's how these guys are wired. There's a big difference between being

the greatest and being great. There's nothing wrong with being great, but to be the greatest, there's just an extra gear there. And I know Scotty has that gear. He just doesn't articulate it very often. And when he wins, he truly is like, okay, I'm going to go home. I'm going to kiss my wife, kiss my baby. I'm going to have a beer. We'll celebrate a little bit and then I'll be back on the range Monday morning. And that's just the way he is and he is never satisfied Maybe it's because of the nature of this sport and you guys know it well that there's no perfection in this sport

You know, there's no crazy run in this sport that can make you think I've got it You know and look at the motivation factor of McElroy after winning It's only human nature after winning the career grand slam and that was your goal your whole life to have a little bit of a dip in your game and that's human nature. I don't think Scottie's like that. I think Scottie's just so steady and so great at what he does and is so satisfied with his life off the golf course. He's been that way for a long, he's a young man, guys.

Like, he's not like 45, 48 years old, and he's just getting cranked up here. And everything about his life is in order, and that allows him to go be great on the golf course. It's not the other way around for him. The other stuff is more important to him than the golf, because that stuff allows him to be great in golf. So Steve, is that what you think happened to Rory after winning the Masters and now

do you think maybe it rounds back up for him this week? Yeah, I think there's no question about it. There were two ways of looking at Rory's win. I think when we were all together in Toronto at the RBC, you know, when we were chatting about this, there's two ways to look at Rory's master's win. He wanted to be a career grand slam champion his whole life. It took him 11 tries to get it. And it only can be a natural,

even if he's a nice guy, well read, smart guy, has a life outside of golf, it's only natural to take your foot off the gas just a little bit. I mean, my gosh, nobody can be that singularly focused unless you're just insane. And some guys are, and Rory was not. So I think he took a natural dip, and then he did something really big. A couple of weeks ago, he just said, I'm going home. He came over here to Europe where he and his wife, Erica,

had built a really nice house outside of Wentworth near London, and they just got away. Got away from everybody, got away from everything, including golf, by the way, and kind of recharged his battery and also kind of made him miss it a little bit. So then he comes last week to the Genesis Scottish Open, had a chance to win,

ends up tie for second. Um, and now he comes in here with some momentum at a golf course. He's, you know, shot 61 here when he was a teenager, uh, grew up less than an hour from here in Hollywood, Northern Ireland. And you know, this, this thing means a lot to him. And I think he's in a much better headspace this week than he was at the PGA, certainly at Quail Hollow and the US Open at Oakmont as well. I think he's in a much better headspace this week than he was at the PGA certainly at Quail Hollow and the US Open at Oakmont as well I think he's

raring to go. With Steve Sands and like I would think if he if he finds a way to win this it's certainly the most memorable season of his career and it won't match like Tiger in 2000 but does it launch him in to contention for like the second best season of the last 25 years? Oh, for sure. I mean, look, there are only six guys who have ever won the career Grand Slam. So that's the first thing. The second thing is when you bookend a season with major championships, the first major

being the Masters, the last major is this week, the open championship. I mean, if he wins this week in his home country down the road from where he grew up, um, after winning the career grand slam and then having this big dip, you know, for a month or two, it's not a huge dip, but it was a dip for him. Um, this would be a massive, massive season for, or he already is a massive season for, uh, by winning the career grand slam, winning the masters. But if he caps this off, caps it off this week, that would be an outrageous. He just don't see guys.

Although Xander Schauffley won two majors last year. He won the PGA championship at Valhalla and then he won a Royal trune. He's the defending champion this week at the open championship. So winning two majors in a season is astonishing to begin with, uh, winning the career grand slam and then adding another major championship to your resume. That would be six by the way, five, you know, you start getting into six, you're talking about Nicholson, top 10 player of all time, Nick Saldo top 25 player of all time,

you know, Lee Trevino, you know, you're talking about some serious company if he can get to six and beyond. I'm not saying that there are a lot of people who won five, but if you get to six and beyond, you're talking serious, serious company in this sport. Yeah, big time, man. And including you won a pebble, he won the players, you know, like you, you, you win the players players the masters in the open yeah it's like man they were just a monster season for rory mackroyd uh... by the way he's the only guys ever won a fedex cup three times in the fedex cup has only been around since two thousand seven but

like the players it's become one of those things it's on the resume he's got five majors two players in three fedex cup like that's that's the way it's starting to work in golf now. And if he plays well this week, only two events left before the FedEx Cup playoffs next month, Minnesota and then Greensboro. And he could very well win this week

and then also win the FedEx Cup, which, you know, you had two majors and a player's in a FedEx Cup. Oh my gosh. It would be an incredible season. Yep, an incredible season. Sanzi, enjoy yourself over there. It's going to be a blast, man. You guys crushing it like always. It's going to be a lot of fun. It's a great, great tournament and we love having you on and we'll do it again soon. Thank you for this. You guys are

the best. Anytime, though. There he is, Steve Sands, NBC in the Golf Channel. The final major of the year at Royal Port Rush. And yeah, I think the McElroy story would be certainly the most interesting story, like the biggest pop if he goes after winning the Masters, having this dip that was pretty wild, and then he returns to form and wins, you know, in his home country, that'd be incredible. Schaeffler getting his second of the year, that would be big. And then beyond that, you know, for us, it'd be incredible. Schaeffler getting his second of the year that would be big and then beyond that you know for us it's like will a Canadian contend if there's four of them in the tournament. Yeah and we'll see. Will any of the live players show up? John

Rahm show up? Does Cam Smith who won the tournament a few years ago at St. Andrews show up? A lot of different compelling storylines. I wonder if more players don't feel how he actually feels. Scheffler, Scheffler. Yeah, like I don't know, like you get to the mountaintop and it's like, this was it. And then it's like. I think of Kevin Durant when he won with Golden State, where I think he thought he would. I mean, who knows how he feels, but like that it would feel different.

It would cement something in his career. And it was like, didn't, and maybe because it wasn't his team and all that stuff, but I bet that's probably more common. Like this was it, especially in golf. Like it's not like with the cop where like, it's like a party for a month. And you have teammates and there's different people

that you share with. Exactly. Yeah, I think for individual athletes, like in golf and tennis, and especially once you start accumulating, like when you're got like Scheffler, and like the first one, I'm sure the Masters, that will always stick out and be different.

But once you've won multiple majors and multiple tournaments, and it becomes routine, which is kind of astonishing when you think about it, that it would be routine to win. Like Djokovic, like many exactly 24 something yeah like and even now you look at like sinner sinner one it was amazing but he wasn't like over the top we're going to US open right like and it's almost also like you got it you got a hit while you can because it is fleeting you're not doing it when

you're in your 40s and 50s and 60s another Nate you know the nature of sport you're not winning a major when you're, like 10 years from now, Scotty Sheffler will be certainly out of his prime, but maybe not even contending anymore. So you kind of have to like take advantage of that and that kind of pressure, like the clock, like Father Time is fighting you too.

Like that's gotta be, I would think, probably stressful as well and something else you're kind of contending with Alright Eric Cosmer coming up in about 15 minutes confirmed with the nigh later this afternoon overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN for all right Eric Cosmer coming up. He was in the all-star game back in 2016 He'll join us to tee up the game tonight That's in about 15 minutes confirmed with the eye coming up later in the hour Maybe it'll be strut or dud.

Probably should be strut or dud, right? If Struddy's on the show. I think that's appropriate. Yeah, we can try not to give it a shot. Okay, we'll go strut or dud. We'll get the oven started. Heat up the oven, we'll get going with the strut or dud. Struddy, I need to know, are you anti-water like Hayes over here? Not drinking water. Swimming. Swimming and natural bodies of water. I'm a pool guy. I love pools. Shower every day. But oceans, no interest. Lakes, not a lot of interest. What? Yeah. No. Oh, no. I love it. We've got a river running through our

town, our city, and I will get a paddle board, a couple whatever with my buddies, and we'll just ride down and a'll paddleboard down, jump in and out of the river. I love it. I love water. I love water. Really? The river in Edmonton? I couldn't think of a worse body of water that I would want to be associated with. Oh great. What's the river called, Strud? Gretzky? The Messier River? Oh, the North Saskatchewan. I've heard of that. The Curry Creek. Okay. Curry Creek. I got you.

Is it like fast moving or is it like a lazy river? It looks, no, it doesn't move very quickly. Now, obviously as the summer goes on, there's less and less water, but I love it. The first time I did was a few years ago with my kids and they're like, this is so great. You're not alone. There's a lot of people in there floating down and there's no flirting turds or dead bodies. It's really quite clean.

And I tell my friends that, if you guys ever come out, I'll take you out paddleboard. I got a life jacket. We'll cruise down, look at the downtown. A's would just be happy standing on the shore, just nodding. Happily. I'll wave and take pictures and videos for your Instagram. I'm a good swimmer. I'll rescue Jonas. It's not even deep Jonas. I'm not worried. Jonas is a water guy. I love water. I'm not a water guy. As we learned yesterday, just... But I can swim. Like,

swimming's not an issue for me, but I just, I prefer not to. Like the North Saskatchewan River, prefer not to like the north saskatchewan river no chance uh... like i have a lot no no visions of ever stepping foot in that without the picture i do it i'm sending it to you and i wish you were here that's all right wish you were here that

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