OverDrive - OverDrive - July 16, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: July 16, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Keegan Matheson, and Frankie Corrado for hour one of OverDrive! The guys get into the NHL’s schedule release, Mitch Marner’s return to Toronto, and the MLB All-Star game. OverDrive co-host Jeff O’Neill joined the show to discuss Marner’s return to Toronto in January and to make their picks for the 153rd Open.

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Alright, here we go, Overdrive, off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your smart speaker and up on TSN to Brian Hayes Frankie Carrotto and Keegan Matheson. Come on baby! Here we go! Keegan Matheson in the house. I like it. Happy All-Star break to me fellas. Yes great seeing you man. Happy to be here. Look at you, no time off. You just love work that much? You want to do some radio for three hours? I couldn't miss an opportunity to talk hockey you know. Yeah exactly. Good man I'm usually I'm usually slouched over on the couch when we're talking. That's that's or I'm hunched over somewhere in a stadium a back alley trying to hide from the noise so this is

a little better yeah it's pretty cool when we get you on FaceTime like when you're down at the dome you're obviously up somewhere in the media gondola or whatever and I guess there's an accepted like everyone would accept that if you're in the media you understand that people have obligations I'm sure everyone would leave you alone but what's what's the ruling like if you're on the road if you're ever walking down the street which I believe we've done with you once or twice like do you get catcalls when you're FaceTiming into our

show or any other show you're doing oh yeah to deal with that kind of stuff yeah because I'm sitting about this far away from people and I'm loudly explaining the Blue Jays Which is also their job. Yeah, so if my colleagues needed another reason to be annoyed by me that might be it But yeah, we've done this from all sorts of places. This is a little better You know being here meeting all these fine folks all these the fancy studio. So this is good Yeah, it's great to see you here and the AC broke just prior to you coming in this is great it's okay I'm skinny and I run cool no problem I am struggling today so I was outside a lot this morning took I did the shower it didn't

take and like the drive-in is so miserable and I'm in a suit because I was doing Sports Center stuff I wish I was rocking the golf shirt next time you come in golf shirt it felt like I know you're here first impressions and you know a lot of big waves and he's a big shooter around here around TSN Yeah, exactly. I was shaking hands. Oh, yeah, I saw you cruising around I need the line about who I am the first time I've got it is more glorious got it trimmed up You know, you got to time the haircuts right? Is there an oil? Is there kind of like an ointment? There is this is actually a sea salt oil today, you know, is that right? And it's seasonal fellas, you know? Is that right?

And it's seasonal, fellas. You know, when you get into the off season, that's when you bring out the spices. That's when you bring out some of that. The summer is for citrus. It's for sea salt. It's for mints, perhaps a mint. Let me guess, like the winter's like a charcoal. You get...

Yeah, you got to darken it up a little bit. Yeah, that's when I really let myself go. And that's when I tell your producers, you know what, I think we should do phone today. Yeah, that's when you... Maybe not the and that's that's when I tell your producers You know what? I think we should do phone today. Yeah, maybe not the video. Let's do phone today Yeah, like wood burning or something like it's gotta be old school. November's like cigars. Cigars. Normally off season like doing TV doing this with you guys is the only excuse I have to cut my hair and clean myself up Yeah, so it's it's good sometimes but yeah, this will be about as high a bar as I said

Well, it's great to see you and you're sitting in the O-Dog seat and the O-Dog's coming up a little bit later on. I got a note from him the other day said I want to come on I got things to say so he's going to join us in like 20 minutes. Amazing. I'm sure we'll make open championship picks we look forward to that. That starts tomorrow of course and we'll get into what we saw out of the All-Star game last night and we've been waiting for the NHL schedule to be released and I'm sure I always got to take on this. It might be a TSN game on Friday night. Like Marner's rolling into town. I didn't look at that who has the rights or who doesn't. They don't have that yet. They haven't figured that out yet. That's not done yet. Okay so. We're all waiting for that. We all got our schedules today and everyone had a very different experience with their like

NHL schedules that are close to them. Joe from the bridge right away, as soon as that Leafs schedule came out into the group chat, Marner's returning this day and the Leafs play Marner that day. Right. He goes, Oh, and they're playing the back to back in Boston to the point where I was like, I can't do the Vegas schedule here. Like I'm going to mute this group. Yeah. Joe from the bridge, like I saw him briefly as I'm walking in and he just starts yelling about Marner's return and it is on a Friday night January 23rd they're in Vegas the week before which is

kind of crazy like the Leafs and the Gold Knights are gonna meet each other twice over the course of what eight eight days I guess they're in that a lot in the schedule okay that like is there any rhyme a reason for that it's just so i don't know i'd my take on it is that if teams play like a tronno plays vegas is like the preschool everything that you did didn't go all this not like you played a team in november you don't seem again till april and then it's it's just completely irrelevant well and again as we the build up to the game is going to be about mariner like i i think i have made it clear this week and I will make it clear

as we get closer and closer to that game. I think it will be the most anticipated Maple Leaf homecoming likely in my lifetime. I mean, I remember when Wendell Clark returned, but Wendell, like no one wanted to see him go. He was so beloved. It was such a shock when he got traded for Sundin. When Sundin left, it was very different because like they were turning over a leaf in terms of

transitioning who they were and what they were going to try to build like people were hoping Matz would wave his no movement clause to acquire picks prospects launch into a rebuild very different tone this is gonna have it all like this is gonna have everything you could possibly look for and I predicted this yesterday I said at the NHL will screw this up and they did. They screwed it up because Vegas is in Boston the night before, which means they're going to fly in late, not have a morning skate. He'll play.

I'm not convinced he even talks to the media afterwards and then he's going to be out. And again, I get why Vegas wants to protect Marner. I get why Marner is like, this is amazing me get me in get me out and I get to an extent why the league would be You know sympathetic to that But as I said yesterday, you're in the entertainment business like this is a massive profile This is a local kid leaving town coming back to the biggest hockey market on earth And they're gonna fly him in like the dark night, fly him out. This is what needs to happen now. You need to get like a mustache or a goatee,

put some glasses on, and you need to be incognito in Boston in a disguise as like TSN ate the old show. Yes. Doing some kind of interview getting a soundbite from Marner. I like that. Like they're going to be Nessin, whoever the Vegas people are, they're going to be asking softball questions. And then all of a sudden it's like Ryan, Ryan Hines. Ryan Hines. Ryan Hines with a mustache. TSN comes off the top rope asking leaf questions. Yeah. In Boston. Yeah. It's going to be like though, it'll be, how do you feel about going home? Yeah. And he'll be allowed to dance around it. Right.

I think if he had some heart, he should make himself available here if he's not going to be made available as it is. Well, and that's I mean, we're projecting at this point, but I think it's in his best interest. Like if I were if I were counseling, I'd say just do it. Talk to the media and don't rush out. I get the world we're in now the irony is if you were still a leaf They wouldn't make them talk because the leaves protect these guys more than anybody else like at least would be like three questions And you're out and they might do it after the game and probably after the game you can talk to them about the game

I'm sure people will throw their questions in but PR guys gonna be from Keegan to get away And he's like guys one more and then that's it. It's over what they probably should do is say We're because it's a back-to-back Mitch is gonna talk at the hotel at 11 a.m Make a decision you want to be a leaf skate or you want to come talk to Mitch in in the morning? And I think and force guys hands basically nine out of ten guys like you you're a reporter Yeah, I guess we'll phrase we'll put that to you Keegan, like if you had that option, you go cover the morning skate, for the Leaster there before a big game, Vegas is a really good team, or Mitch is setting up shop down at the Westin, where are you going? How many morning skates are there in a season versus how many Mitch Marner's are there in a season?

82 basically. Bingo. I'm going to where Mitch M mariner is yeah and it's not going to go away either I think of this all the time regardless of the support but with mish mariner it's not going to go away if he dodges it this time or if it's dodged for him it's not gonna go away it'll just be waiting next season when he comes back it'll be waiting in the playoffs mmm and it's gonna keep following him I think it's in his best interest to rip this band-aid off and I

know he doesn't want to Evidently with how he's handled all of this But it'll keep following him and the stories and the coverage will not grow kinder I don't think as this goes and It's easy for everyone. These things get overthought You know how it goes in this and especially with the access that we get the Leafs players and you guys know Well, it gets overthought and this can be handled pretty quickly, not painlessly, but with way less pain than there's going to be if you drag it and drag it and drag it.

Absolutely. And again, it's not about attacking Mitch Barner. Like that's not what I'm advocating for. No, because guys like, you know the guys that are on the beat. It's not going to be that hard. It's never that hard. You know them all, it's Jonas, it's Alter, it's Masters. They just need to ask a certain question, like a bigger picture question. They're not trying to like interrogate your life.

Yes. They have a job. And it's professional, it's about hockey. And they're gonna do that job and it's gonna be fair. Yes, it's gonna be about hockey. This is not the old days where like anything goes. It's just not the case anymore. You're on the risk of losing access It's not that scary of a market, right? It's it's not New York at peak New York

It is not Boston when Boston's coming for you. It's not that scary of a market like when the Yankees are playing bad. Oh That must be a blood you need security, right? Like you must have seen some of those. Oh, yeah over the years Absolutely, and it gets harsh it gets personal and it gets targeted. Right. When in reality, what a lot of people are going to be looking for from Mitch Marner for TV purposes is a clip, is a video of him saying, I loved my time here. Thanks Leafs fans, whatever. Yeah. And what writers are going to be looking for is a quote to put in a story. It's not a battle. There's nothing that serious happening here. Yeah, there's a lot of hurt feelings. There's a lot of fan

emotion involved in that. Fans are gonna have their right to boo them or say nothing or do whatever the hell they want. But from the media standpoint, I think it's been built up as big scary Toronto media. It ain't that... No, it's not. I promise you it's not that serious. It's not. And you can speak to it because you get out you know this what happens is when it's your bubble you just you extrapolate everything like oh no there's nowhere else like this well how would you know you never been to Philly you're not from

Philly not from Boston New York Chicago and I think you know you bring up a good point because if Marner again we're this is all conjecture, maybe steps in and goes, I'm going to speak multiple times, I'm going to speak before the game, after the game, and I'm just going to get it all done. And I think that'd be in his best interest because again, it's not going to be that harsh or that painful. But I think it would be more important probably to speak, like from my perspective, if I could have a choice after the game, after you seen the reaction Whether it was as harsh as you thought it would be not as harsh. Maybe the Leafs do some incredible

Ceremony for him or some montage and he can speak to the emotions of that. That's gonna be interesting. Yeah Everyone gets something. I want to hear him after the game They've got we know like the the the two different worlds of welcomes that you get if you were were just a guy, you get like a picture and your name. It's like, welcome back, Timothy Lilligran. But if you are someone who is a little more substantial, you get the video. And then how long is the video? How emotional is the video? Close up on Auston Matthews face.

Right. Like where does Mitch Marner land on like the just a guy to you were an absolute hero because on paper If you didn't know anything about the saga of Mitch Marner, you would just look at the numbers and how long he played here and say Like that deserves a hero's welcome. Yes. Yeah, but I know we know too much. We know what happened We know that you were gonna go to Switzerland because you weren't getting your money and we know that you were talking to people about Vegas now and the playoff record. So it'll be interesting to see how the organization handles it because they are always over the top.

It's always first class. Well, how over the top are they gonna go for Mitch Marner now? That would be interesting to get a read on that because Shanahan's not here anymore. And like Shanahan was connected to him more than anybody else. Yeah.

You know, like he was the godfather of the core four. It was his image, it was his philosophy, and he was diligent in continuing it. And Shanahan's gone, like Wickey's been gone for a long time, but he was here I guess, you know, at the start or at least when he got drafted. You know, it's a different ownership group. Cannon bombs even. Cannon bombs like not to be in the same spot like he was. So you're like, that's really what sticks out in 2025 is like it's the year of change. Like Shanahan, Ujiri, Marner, Bell, Tannenbaum. Like it is a, this is a year we're not gonna forget. Like you just wrote a book, the 2025 Toronto sports scene is gonna be a fascinating one because on top of it,

the team that has held the most consistency has been the team that was taking the most heat. That was the Jays. Like six months ago, they were getting crushed. No one was talking about Shanahan and Messiah. They were just over there doing their own thing. It was Shapiro's gotta go, Atkins gotta go to go, what is going to happen here? Are they going to pay Vladdy? Tickets are too high. And now all of a sudden they break out of the all-star

break and they're sitting at the top of the division with a chance, I think, for Ross Atkins to really redeem himself over the next two weeks leading up to the trade deadline, where if he hits a grand slam, even a a triple and let's say Santander does return and I know you you mentioned on our show a couple of days ago you're not necessarily bracing for that but let's say he does return let's say Scherzer stays healthy and has an impact all of a sudden Scherzer he sign Santander he sign they acquire a piece or two, they win the division, those two pieces play a big role in that.

The 180 from Ross Atkins on March 15th, 2025, to what it could be on October 15th, staggering. Man, you can't buy that PR. Staggering. It's amazing. And the thing is about Ross Atkins in these last few years, when I look back through all the trades he's made, there's no disaster. When I look back through the contracts that he's handed out,

there's no disaster. There's no Baltimore Orioles, Chris Davis, oh my God, we're still paying this guy type stuff. But they've been missing that magic. And I think they've got that this year. The roster is not notably better by any means. It's about who they were. We talked about them being a 500 team a lot of times, but you just need that magic, man. And when it

all comes together, the 92 and 93 teams, that wiped away a lot of what people felt about the 80s when they were close, close, close, couldn't quite get there. You just need that to come together at the right time. And for Ross Atkins, man, you hear, dare I say, people saying good things about Ross Atkins in this city right now. It's strange for me. I didn't hear that for years. And you know what's crazy is we would all say certain things about the team

and they would say stuff that was essentially like the complete opposite. No, we believe in this, our numbers tell us this, and we're sticking to the plan. Everyone's like, are we the ones taking crazy pills or is it you? And then in a year like this, it kind of proves them right. They were-

Brother preach. I tell ya. They kind of did know what they were doing, but it just never came to fruition before. Or is it just a one-off? Or can this be something that they parlay into year after year after year? I'll tell you this though.

Like you find yourself atop the AL East, you gotta- Well now you got to hammer home. It is full gas pedal because you don't get chances like this where Yankees are missing a little something, Red Sox are underachieving, Razor well behind you, Orioles are a disaster. It's gotta be full gas pedal now.

Like this is the one where you say, we gotta push our chips in. You have to. When else are you gonna do it? That's all I keep coming back to. When else are you gonna do it? There's never gonna be a better time. They have money, they have players,

they have prospects, it's sitting right in front of them And this is this is the deadline and this is probably year six of me saying this whatever forget the last five This is the deadline they'll be judged by because you cannot imagine a better setup than what they have right now And this is not a year to complement the roster I do not care if they get a number seven reliever a number five starter a lefty bat, I don't care. This is the year to raise the ceiling. This is the year to stop acting like the little Toronto Blue Jays and start acting like Toronto. So you're saying big city. 2015 exactly like go get Toulou, go get Bryce. Act like LA because that's what Toronto is. That's how they

spend, that's what the city is. It's right in front of them, man. And has there been a little luck to get here? Sure, maybe. But it's all come together and they've got that magic they were missing when they probably had better rosters. I don't know how to explain it, but it's here and you can't let it go. Yeah, it is and you know the spotlight will obviously be on the players as it should be once they get back to it later this week You got to play you got to perform You got other teams that are right there with you red Sox have won 10 in a row Yankees are a couple of games back

You know They're gonna be active like there's pressure on Cashman in New York to do things and try to improve that team and help out Aaron judge But yeah, it's a real opportunity and you're right in terms of what they're likely to get i mean there's names you know there's different rumor mills of who could be available and who who could not be available it comes down to more what they're willing to stomach in terms of giving up right because of let's say player x is available that makes a lot of sense if player x is available for the jays is available for all the other teams in baseball that are competing right now there's a lot of teams who think they have a

legitimate shot. So you're gonna get them, but you gotta pay. So that's what it's gonna come down to. Like, do they have the stomach? Atkins, Shapiro, to put in a big piece, like a big name that that is in the system. And this is where they can get a piece like that because you're not doing the free agency thing where it's up to the player looking at five or six different options and he says, well, I got LA, I got New York, I got New York again. And you're like, well.

You get them and bring them in. You know, Toronto's like fifth on that list. So I'm gonna go to one of those. Now it's like, no, no, we're willing to pony up. We can afford you, we want you, we're making the transaction with your manager And then we're trying to bring you in so like this is this is the one as opposed you have control over the yeah trade deadline The agency this is the one where they can actually land the big fish or have a much better chance of landing the big fish

Because when it comes to free agency, it's always like there's some kind of wart that comes with it It's like yes war bird or Scherzer's here He might not be able to pitch very much. Right. Like it's always that type of there's a tax that seemingly more of a tax, you know, or you got to you got to build up your own guys like Flatt. You know, you got to you got to find your own guy. You got to basically develop your own guy, let him pop. And then you got to pay him, which is what happened.

But, you know, the All-Star game last night, I thought it was a resounding success for Major League Baseball. Full disclosure like I said yesterday the the only thing I really wanted to see was Paul Skeens, Aaron Judge and like Skeens was hitting a hundred like he was it looked like he was barely winding up and he hit a hundred on a gun like he I don't think he threw anything off speed I'm not sure he did though and Judge you know dribbles one up the middle he did get a bat on it the previous two guys couldn't but that's the show man he got run support he actually yes he finally did two runs of run support must feel nice I don't think he's had two runs of run support in the last like two weeks now for him that's

why I wanted to see him keep going and I get it the Pirates like no and skeins is young and there's other guys who want to go in he's going back to Pittsburgh man that's they're not winning anything they're not competing for anything there's nothing important let him go like seven innings last night if the three not get really let us see it let us see skeins go through every single all-star that was the big American League because when you tune in an all-star game you want to see something rare that's what all-star games and the Pearl Bowl are battling scarcity right now if this game happened 15 years ago I would be fired up because that would be my shot to see Fernando

Tatis and Shohei and Kershaw guys on the West Coast who aren't on my TV channel every night right but now I can open this laptop here and the first 50 things I'm gonna see are a Paul Skeen's gift here's his two thousand four hundred blah blah rbms but it's in your face constantly you can hide from an interleague play you're always gonna see them too you're always gonna see them i can flip on mlb tv tsn and watch these games and it's easy but skeens against judge that's a little rarity the derby the swing off that was great and that was fantastic yeah because it added something new something

that you don't see every single night now if I have seen looking through you guys like Corbin Burns face a good hitter before it's cool it doesn't do a lot for me it's not gonna keep me up late at night but jeans versus judge that's special the derby swing off, man, it's, the fact we're talking about an All-Star game the day after, is a compliment to it. It's a win. We all like it, but you know the way like baseball purists are. Is there a corner of like the baseball purist world down in the states that hates this swing

off and doesn't like what happened last night? There better not be for an all-star game. For an all-star. Like eventually this is going to get thrown out to complete games in the regular season. I don't know when it's going to happen, but it's going to be presented and they're going to debate should we go nine innings if it's tied we do a swing off. That will upset the purists. That will upset the purists.

I'm not prepared to get there yet. Like I think they've made so much change over the last few years i i don't want to see that last night as runners in the regular season in yet exactly there's one and i think clock we love it that we're moving in a pretty good clock it's an extra beer night felt that and the best thing that's happened now so here's great but this will be one that gets brought up and is treated semi seriously

it won't happen what but it's it gets people talking about stuff they want in baseball, which is a good thing. But maybe you work it into the All-Star game next year. Maybe after the fifth inning there's something that you jam in there and make work. But it's good. Well, another element that you have to remember is these are All-Stars. If that's happening in the regular season and you have Colorado playing the White Sox and you got some guy trying to get the ball out of the infield you're like this isn't going to fly for us. Like it's one thing if it's Schwaber who has so much moxie he's got such an

aura to him man like the fact that he's on the same team as Bryce Harper so lucky if you're in Philly like he just mashes he's got a Fred Flintstone vibe to him. Perfect Philly guy. Perfect Philly guy. Kyle Schwaber might be one of I said this this morning on first up one of three baseball players I'd want to watch play baseball. Yes. And he is not in the top 50 players in the game maybe he's on that edge but man what a player yeah and he's a throwback he fits Philly so well and man if bench is clear number one pick oh that guy would destroy people he's a wine barrel like that third one he went down to get it and it was like the old guy at the pitch you know

what i mean like the old guy trying to finish off like the softball season and he just went down to get it and he sat there and watched it you're like three for three is phenomenal to close it like it was just a great way to end the game I thought it was perfect for the All-Star game but the crowd was great I thought what they did with with Hank Aaron like commemorating him passing Babe Ruth was unbelievable I wasn't prepared for that but that was that was incredible I thought the whole show was really good I was disappointed with the derby the night before but I thought the All-Star game was great and it lost in all of it is like it's a crazy comeback too yes

which kind of gets buried under everything else that happened. Big time, big time. All right, the O-Dog's coming up. He'll give his take on Marner's return. We know when he's coming back. A Friday night in January. Get his take on that. Get his take on certainly the Open Championship. We'll do some picks. He's going to be over the phone. So maybe we keep it to five picks, seven picks, a Canadian each. I don't know. I know where this is going. You gotta see where he goes.

We're going to have 12, 15 guys, half the field to be picked probably in the next segment. We'll get his take on what Scottie Scheffler was saying the other day too, about just trying to find satisfaction in the sport. So the O-Dogs coming up, we got John Gibbons on the show today. Darko Ryokovic coming up as well. The Raptors are just, they're a juggernaut at Summer League, man They don't lose they create turnovers. They look great. The kids have been great

So catch up with Darko get his take on what's going on down in Vegas Roleplay level of a concern coming up Keegan Matheson in here with Frankie Corrado on Brian Hayes overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 2 Seasoned gamer or just video game curious? This Week in Gaming is the podcast for you. We break down the latest in the world of video games from basics to beyond. The hottest gaming news, insight and industry leaders and more weekly. Join me, Naomi Kyle and stay ahead of the game with all the latest updates. Even if you're a total newbie.

Stream This Week in Gaming on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, overdrive continues powered by FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Brian Hayes, Keegan Matheson, Frankie Carrato, the O-Dog, Jeff O'Neal here in a moment, his take on the Open Championship which will begin tomorrow. Sneaking a few picks. Why not? Be rude not to. Yeah. Be rude not to. Like the little midsummer check-in with the O-Dogs. Yeah just check out what's going on with him. He's got to be like not bored but tinkering

with stuff. Like I feel like he tinkers around the house different putters different things around the yard. Yes. Big tinkering guy. He's a tinkering with stuff. Like I feel like he tinkers around the house, different putters, different things around the yard. Yes. Big tinkering guy. He's a tinkering guy. We think it's useful tinkering though. Is he fixing things? No, he's useless when it comes to anything like that, but he will find a way to make it look as if he is being useful, which is a masterpiece. Like that's a veteran move if you can pull it off. Yeah, if you have people believing you're accomplishing things, without actually having to do it, that's-

Mostly just your wife. It's, let's be honest. If we're gonna streamline this, yeah, it's basically one person. Can I ask you something? Yeah. You went to Cabot, right? I was out there, yes, out in Nova Scotia.

In Nova Scotia, beautiful Nova Scotia. The island, you take the ferry across? No, drove straight north. How much did you spend on merch and how much did you tell your wife? You sent on there we go Questions a lot the first answer is a lot. Yeah, cuz I like both Both pro shops are awesome I have the two different logos like the links is like the ship and then the cliffs is the lobster. Right.

So they rope like, you know, again, it'd be rude not to accomplish both. You gotta get both. So I hit the one, I went with like, I had a hoodie, a belt, head cover. The guy was buying Peter Millar this, Peter Millar that, and then Dormy Workshops, which is a great Canadian out of Halifax,

great Canadian company they had really cool stuff i'm like i'll grab some of that and i went down to the other one i bought a t-shirt i bought a ton of stuff but i didn't give the exact total to my wife i just said a fair amount she knows what's coming like she hit me you would understand that like there's like there's a bill coming and let's clarify when i went to augusta when i went to the masters blew everything out of the water. So this was a level or two below that significantly, but still. Do you buy her something?

Is that part of the strategy? I bought my kid something and I got her a bag. Which was gifted, but she doesn't need to know that. Anyway, anyway, here he is for the mid-July check-in, the O-Dog Jeff O'Neil. Over FaceTime, yes! Wow. What'sTime. How about Keegan in your seat man he looks like a million bucks I'm not gonna lie. Some respect to that chair some respect in the chair Keegan it's great to see you there pal. Good to see you dog I heard they brought me in just to keep the looks and charm rolling here so i'll do my best

yeah it's good stuff you guys hazy you just you don't change pal i had to sit there and listen to you guys talk about that for seven minutes and i was shaking my head and i'm like these guys sitting here listening to your silly stories but good to be with you guys good to be with you and uh i guess we'll begin with the the nhl scheduling which has been a big topic of discussion for us Mitch Marner, he will be here January 20 30 plays in Boston the night before You know, you've been in a position like this I don't know when you went back to Carolina, you know If you were playing the night before or what have you but what would you expect this to look like? For Marner when he finally gets back to Toronto

Well, I think it's like for me going back to Carolina, it's a really nerve wracking experience, Brian. Like you just, you played there for so long and I know we joked about my attempt at like being prepared for like acknowledging the crowd and there was no acknowledgement was a bit of a bummer. But like, I honestly guys, Acknowledging the crowd and there was no acknowledgement was a bit of a bummer Like I Honestly guys

I honestly think I might be the only player that's ever played that didn't get some kind of tribute video on their first game Back I was it was so bizarre, but you're just wondering like you're gonna get booed And it's just a really weird feeling because you're playing against guys who you're so close with. But for Mitch, I mean, I don't know how it's going to compare. We all can remember the John Tavares experience going back to Long Island where that got pretty ugly. Like it's still ugly every time he goes there. And I don't know. It's just, I just, I can't put a pulse on Brian maybe you can or all you guys like where the fan base is gonna be at because you know, I thought it was weird how Mitch kind of Admitted to looking into Vegas and was asking about Vegas and everyone was like where was this guy's head at during the playoffs?

If he was asking everybody about Vegas Like I don't know. I found it really weird that he would admit something like that. So where the fan base's heads are going to be at when this guy returns, it's going to be something interesting. I know it's a Friday night game. I'm not sure if that's a TSN game or not. I'm sure we'll find that out later in the summer. But if I'm not working, I'll definitely be in the building just to get a sense of what's going on. Me too.

It will be interesting because I feel like there's different age demographics that would relate to Mitch Marner and not relate to Mitch Marner. Like if you're the young kids, the YouTube generation, like you kind of like Mitch Marner and like the goofy dances he was doing and the facial expressions but if you're a boomer you hate it. You're probably booing him, right? Like so I feel it's not going to be as visceral as the john to bars thing it's likely going to be somewhere in the middle

which i don't know how i don't know how that's gonna land when it's all set in that be a win for marner it's in the middle it's a water that'll be a win and i mean i'm thinking he'll be anticipating it being loud and crazy and nasty if it's anything short of that i think he'd be ecstatic with that and well the the it's not just going to be a simple as and i know die her jones talking about a prime

where it's like all he was a great player so when he steps on the ice just cheer like this there's a lot of different deeper levels to this guy coming back into the building you know just the you know working out the trade and not wanting to get traded during the season and all the contract stuff like this isn't just a guy that stepped in although he was a hometown kid and he you know embraced the city and for the most part I think the city embraced him there's a lot of different layers to this guy returning and the reaction is going to be

fascinating because he's Mitch Marner he's a polarizing guy and you saw the presser and the parents out in Vegas I don't know it's really going to be a fascinating night when he steps foot in that ice that's for sure I'm curious guys to like the long-term deal of this too like Mitch Marner if you hate him right now you'll hate him that night if you're on the fence you'll be on the fence that night but how this sets up how we to like Mitch Marner, if you hate him right now, you'll hate him that night. If you're on the fence, you'll be on the fence that night. But how this sets up how we talk about Mitch Marner at the end of his career, 10 years from now, he's played it out with the golden Knights. He's finished wherever he finishes. I think of guys who are remembered as Leafs alumni and you have the big names, you have the Gilmour's, Sundeans,

you have the Wendell Clarks. Who's Mitch Marner 10 years from now, 15 years from now? Is he in that box wearing a Leafs jersey? Is he an alumni that people hold up? And I think how he handles these next couple of years goes a long way to start that. Right now the reaction will be what it is. People are emotional. But you're talking about a guy, fifth all time in points in this organization, and it's been around for a while.

How does he get remembered? What type of alumni is he? Does this stick to him? You know, he can control that. It's a great question. Yeah, it's been around for a while how does he get remember what type of alumni is he does this victim you know he could great question that yet's a great question is a great point to guys because i bet you there's some people this summer that when they heard that he was looking into vegas any kind of new this was common or somebody that heard that he blocked the red and trade and didn't want to get trade in the middle of the season

i'd like to know some people that are going to flip work on january they're going to be like i don't hold any grudges against this guy and I just don't care enough to still be mad at him and there will be still people that have been frothing at the mouth that that will still be mad but I guarantee you just to your point Keegan there'll be a bunch of people that are like I just can't care enough to just still be mad at this guy and I thought I was gonna boo him and maybe I'll cheer him and that's just where it's at right now.

Yeah, and you're right about the amount of time that will eventually pass. There's examples of guys who are leased for a long time and now you don't really think of them that way. I'll give you an example. Zach Hyman was kind of a homegrown, yes not drafted, but a choir, played for the Marlies, was a leaf, really good leaf. He'll be an Euler when he retires. And you know, like our buddy Matt Stage, and Stage was a Leaf for a long time, but he's

a Flame. Like that's what I think of him as a Flame. Do you think Mitch Marner will be known as a Golden Knight when he retires or a Maple Leaf when he retires? I'll tell you what can change that whole philosophy or idea, Brian, is if they win two Stanley Cups in his tenure there and he's a Con Smythe guy and he's one of the major contributing factors because it's whatever as a player you can fall back on. If you go to a different place and you kind of stink the joint out, it's like, I'll be known as a whatever where I was a better player. That's what kind of

players do. They're like, I was a better player there, so I was kind of more of a Canuck. For me, people say, oh, you played for the Carolina Hurricanes, but when you're in the Toronto market, they're like, oh, you're a former Leaf, and you cling on to that because it's a lot more of a big deal in the city of Toronto So but if he goes there and he's a big part of winning and he plays his tenure out there He'll be a Vegas Golden Knight, which seems really weird to say right now. It does man What would you make of seeing the schedule come out and it's the second half of a back-to-back in Toronto And then the game in Vegas Vegas is playing the second half of a back

to back. So there's really, there's not a lot of time for reporters to kind of get time or access with Mitch Marner with those two games this year. I mean, what do you think you're going to get? I mean, I know that the media loves to ask the questions, but you're going to get, I loved my time here. It was a dream of mine. I embraced every minute of it And it just didn't work out now. I'm in Vegas and I couldn't be happier being in Vegas So that's what you're probably gonna be missing out on it's not like he's it's not like he's gonna say I just can't wait to stick it to these guys and You know

Absolutely sewer the Leafs and the fans and they can all suck on it after this game. It's not like it's going to be one of those things. No, it's probably not. But there's always that, like with Marner, there's always that like weird slippage. It's like, yeah, we were like gods here. You know, those kind of quotes that you're not expecting that people grab and really run. Well, even a few of those. Even the yeah, we were talking to people about Vegas like you know I wonder if you got off the stage and I

should not have why did I say that why why did I have to say that publicly because now people in Toronto are gonna attach themselves to it hold on just just to jump in on that like that is normal conversations that happen every single day in the NHL you know much time guys spend together like you're on the bus you're on the plane you you're at the arena. I know Frankie, but to drop that in the presser was a little bit kind of wow. It's like you could have left that part out and then that's the thing. There's a bunch of stuff that always can be left out which he chose not to.

With the O-Dog Jeff O'Neil, I'm sure you heard Scheffler yesterday. Oh my God, dude. Like where's this, do you like where's this do you think there's a Chan Scheffler within the next five years just packs it in and says screw it I'm not playing anymore? Like it kind of sounded that way yesterday. Yeah it was real like people were praising him which was like it seemed like the total opposite of a Tiger Woods presser where he basically would let it be known to the world where it would be like

I want to rip people's faces off and Rip their hearts out on the 18th green when I putt out to win and I want to see them bleed to death when I'm Done doing that and this guy was like I don't even know I like doing this and I don't know why I like winning because It's for two minutes, and then I want to know what's for dinner, and I love my I'm a bit of a psycho I love practicing, but I still don't know why I like winning because it's for two minutes and then I want to know what's for dinner and I love my I'm a bit of a psycho I love practicing but I still don't know why I do it. Fascinating words and fascinating thoughts on everything but it kind of makes you wonder that if in three years and he literally can't make a putt he just waves to everyone and says you'll never see me again. Yeah like that's kind of what I took out of it like every

athlete has a different viewpoint. I think he was trying to say, I think it was a multi-layered answer. Like he was getting into a number of things and he really wanted to express the importance of his family and all that, which is understood. But it did seem to open the door to like one thing happening off the course or on the course. And he's like, I'm cool with basically saying I'm out of here you know which is kind of which is wild considering he's the number one player in the world. You know why you can say that when you've made that much money you're not thinking about... I was just gonna say Frankie yeah this guy's got a hundred and eighty million in the bank

yeah like some guy that's scratching and clawing that's got four cents in his bank accounts like I gotta bust my ass to try to put food on the plates of my family and this guy this guy's basically what he's just said Hayes and maybe you his bank accounts like I got to bust my ass to try to put food on the plates of my family and this guy this guy's basically what he's just said Hayes and maybe you guys disagree but I just kicked everyone's ass in a three-year period and made so much money where if it ended tomorrow maybe that was the gist of the whole thing if it ended tomorrow I just wouldn't give a you know what yeah exactly like that Like he says he's made so much money over the last three years It's got to be over a hundred million on the course of our course where he's just like

If anything happens and I just I'm not good at this or I don't want to play then I probably won't be doing it Yeah, I don't exhausted. Yeah, that is down and exhausted And it's when I think of like athletes at very, very top of their sports, you think of MJ, you think of Brady, these great, great, great athletes, they kind of have the ability to turn the heart off. And it's that gene that makes them great but is also kind of problematic at the same time. And maybe if you can't turn that off, it's challenging, man. He sounded exhausted.

Yeah. And what is he? 29? Yeah, you're in his late 20s. I think the word he left out, guys, was just the reason he practices and the reason that he loves doing it. It's just competitiveness. Like I just mentioned, he's made so much money that he probably doesn't even think about the paychecks. Like he said, I think about it for two minutes, and then the conversation goes to what's dinner and he just basically forgot the words to describe why he does it and loves doing it. It's competitiveness.

He loves going out there and winning. And I think he just forgot to mention that or kind of got lost for the right words and forgot to say it ultimately. Well, it's such a luxury when you have that much money that you can blow that pot five feet past and don't have to worry about lagging to make a cut or lagging to hold on to the money you have you know what I'm saying like if you're if you're a grinder you're like man if I make this pot I'll make more money but if I if I three putt this I lose money so I don't even want to make it I want to lag putt it. Why do you think

Tiger Woods for so many years a seven seven foot downhill putt, he would just cream it right in the middle? Exactly. Because the guy didn't care. He was like, if this doesn't go in, either I'm going to make the next one and if I don't, I don't care about that one either. I'm either winning or not. That's what matters. And you know what's crazy? Tiger will always be one of one. But think about what Scottie has done in like a three year span. He has blown Tiger's earnings out of the water in that period. Tiger had to keep going and going and going just to make whatever, it was a lot of money.

But Scotty made such a massive amount of money in such a short period of time that he could look at it and say, the $4 million that's going in my bank account next week doesn't do it for me anymore. Which is wild to think that. Crazy, crazy. All the sheets going in your bank account doesn't do it for me anymore Yeah, which is wild to think that crazy crazy. He's going in your bank account doesn't do it for big time All right coverage of the 153rd open from Port Rush on overdrive brought to you by Subaru You want to knock out some picks here because we got you

I'll give it you want to do your you have McElroy got Shepard you want to get that out of the way right off the bat Absolutely, I'll take Rory McElroy and I love him this week in Ireland. Okay and I'll take Scheffler. I'll give you, you go ahead, you can knock out your picks, you can do whatever you want. It's your it's your rodeo and I'll follow suit. I gotta go with Ludwig Oberg. I love a Ludwig Oberg right now. Yeah Ludwig's. I'm gonna throw another guy at him that you that you we hate his clothes but I love him on this course Bobby McIntyre. I love Bobby Mac. I was gonna pick him. You know who's got the worst actually the worst gear on

tour and I was watching with the Scottish? Fitzy's got the worst gear. Oh yeah? Not Jason Day? No. Jason Day at least he's like trying to perform. He's he's got a style that he's trying to put forward like fitzies got a gray pant with a off-gray shirt that's Size 23 sketches Yeah, but okay, let's have the weirdest look man. It's the most strange gear going is fitzy All right, you got Ludwig, Bobby Mack, and you got

Rory. I'll take Scotty. I'm going to take two Liv guys out of the gate. John Rahm and Tyrell Hatton. I'm taking John Rahm. Those are good picks. John Rahm and Tyrell Hatton. Go ahead. Give me two more. I got to go with Xander. I think he could be trending in the right direction. Zander I think he could be trending in the right direction and I just I don't know why I'm addicted to this guy. Yeah, you know what? I'm not gonna do it I was gonna take JT, but he's just so inconsistent. No, I know Yeah, and I guess so also I actually thought about I won't do it though. I'll go I might do it Don't take speed. You're not taking speed. You know, he's not winning. I Know so I just took

Xander, I'm gonna take Morikawa, I don't know. I'm gonna take a couple more guys, I'm gonna take Spieth and I'm gonna take Tommy Fleetwood as well. You're taking Tommy? Yeah, Tommy Fleetwood, he might choke it away on the last day, but you know what, maybe, because he finished second the last time the tournament was here and throw in Shane Lowry for me, too All right, you know and then give me a Canadian and then I'll wrap it up from there. You make it a Maybe Cory Connors a lot of wind. I think he can strike the ball Good wind player Cory Connors. Okay. I'll take fitzy with his great gear. I'll take fitzy if he's standing there I'll take Nick Taylor

I'm gonna take Patrick Cantlay who I don't love but he's gonna be a contention and Keegan Bradley. I'll take Keegan Bradley to wrap up my picks. You gotta give me Keegan cuz Scotty Vail will be texting me. You gotta give me Keegan and scotty veil will be texting i know i'm gonna give me keegan i'd take any can take one of my guys they don't get any keegan and take one other guy you take keegan let's clip this yeah let's just let's look for me this is good stuff are you arguing over it okay you take keegan keegan matheson keegan bradley

uh... whom i'm missing here although i'll take bryson i'll take bryson and if i have an aspect all'll take my boy Taylor Pendreth There you go lock it in. All right, I think we've covered everything Everyone's made your picks. Go ahead. I want to give you a date hazy on the way out here August 10th about Because I might have the poncho back on my right shoulder is getting done now on August 8th so on the 10th, I might have to throw the poncho on and uh...

Come back man, La Bamba. Yeah, come in with La Bamba, we'll come in hot. Alright, put it in your calendar, August 10th, La Bamba, The Old Dog will be back with the poncho. Good luck with the wing, good luck with the picks, we'll do it again soon. Alright buddy, see you guys. There he is. The Old Dog, Jeff O'Neil, of the one hundred and fifty third open from Royal

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So we'll catch up with Darko and get his take on what he's seen out of some of the young guys and you know, life without Messiah. I saw that there were pictures circulating last night that Keith Pelley's down there he's in Vegas he's in Vegas yeah I guess he was there last night I believe it was last night now what was interesting suit guy in Vegas which I think if you're like if your president CEO of a major corporation is it mandatory suit like if you're gonna be out in public representing the company or could Keith not get you know I throw on a golf shirt. It's Vegas

Relax a little bit you could but I kind of like that If that guy's not gonna be suit guy all the time who is gonna be suit guy all the time, right? Like yeah, you got I guess it's kind of perma suit guy Yeah, if you reach that level of status. Like I always am like I can't believe like the older people like you know my grandfather's generation they just wear long pants and button-up shirts every day. Oh yeah. What? Oh yeah.

35 degrees. That's just what they do. That's what happens. Crazy. That's how you operate. I want coaches back in suits. I want that NBA sideline suit. I agree man.

I don't like the little athleisure. It's way too much like they get it in COVID the bubble and then they're all like, none of us are going back and they'll collectively just agree that I want NFL coaches and suits again. Big time. Give me that serious. Big time, man. I totally agree with that. Suits, it's just, it looks, it feels more professional. It looks, it's the big time and you're in the NBA. You're wearing a quarter zip. hockey like the the relaxed dress code now for hockey Yeah, don't do it guys are gonna wear suits to games. You should what was the wording on that adhering to modern dress standards? Is that how it was something ridiculous? I'm sure Gary Batman was like pardon. What is it? Fine? Just give it to him Our to coming up overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. You've been listening to Overdrive, powered by FanDuel.

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