OverDrive - OverDrive - July 17, 2025 - Hour 3

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Frankie Corrado, and Jason Strudwick for hour 3 of OverDrive! TSN football insider Dave Naylor stops by to share his thoughts on the reinstatement of Shawn Lemon. The guys react to t...he viral Coldplay concert. We give out our FanDuel best bets.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Unmistakably Canadian. It's the music that raised you. The artists raising the bar. Hi, this is Bryan Adams. Hey, my name's Brett Emmons. I'm from the Glorious Sons. Hi, I'm Nellie Furtado. Made in Canada.
Starting point is 00:00:15 The station that champions Canadian music. Loud, proud, and all yours. No passports required. Just press play. Tap into Made in Canada now on I hear radio.ca Or the free I heart radio app Final hour overdrive continues powered by fan duel bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score Brian Hayes Frankie Corrado Jason Strudwick will get to our best bets a little bit later this afternoon the chase back in action with the Giants in town Giants
Starting point is 00:00:44 You know they've got a winning record. You got the Yankees a lot down the stretch. You got the Tigers coming up. They're the top team in the American League. It's going to be go time for the Jays right out of the gate. But I like that. Like don't ease into it. You're at home. If you're a pace car, if you're a really good team, it doesn't matter who you're playing. You're expected to pick up wins. They're going to have to do that. and especially the fact that like it's the Yankees in the Sox and and they're right on your tail It's like there's no time to be complacent It's not like you're going into this thing with like, you know I'm five six seven game lead and then you know
Starting point is 00:01:17 You can you can get complacent and all of a sudden they make up ground It's like they are right there and you got to get get going right out of the gate and I think that applies to Vlad E maybe more than anyone on the roster where all of a sudden they make up ground. It's like they are right there and you got to get going right out of the gate. And I think that applies to Vladdy maybe more than anyone on the roster where sitting at 12 home runs, he's got to be that big powerful bat that people game plan around. And right now it's not the case, but we don't really, it doesn't get exposed as much because the team is playing great around him. Yeah, absolutely, man man he's been very lucky
Starting point is 00:01:47 like if they if this team was on pace for eighty wins seventy five wins any at twelve home runs it would be nasty it'd be it would be loud and and now it's more i think people just pointing out the obvious which is justified that his numbers should be better he he has to be better uh... but he still can be better. And you have faith in that because you've seen it so often and he's still so young.
Starting point is 00:02:10 But ultimately, if you're a fan, really you care about team success. I mean, that's, I think the lesson we've learned from the core four era, like who cares about the core four anymore? How about win something in the playoffs? Like that's what Maple Leaf fans want. They don't want Matthews to just win Rockets anymore, how about win something in the playoffs? Like that's what Maple Leaf fans want. They
Starting point is 00:02:25 don't want Matthews to just win Rockets and Marner to get sulky votes and all that. It's the Maple Leafs need team success and the same thing applies with the Blue Jays. Well they're kind of patient. Fans are kind of patient. They're like those individual accolades are great but now we want to go on a run. We want to have fun. You see that in every market. Yeah, exactly. And that's exactly what fandom is all about. And ultimately, they both have to mesh together.
Starting point is 00:02:50 That's the thing. You need the individual success from your best players in order for them to really have ultimate team success. And I think that's where the Vladi conversation ultimately collides with team success is, if it's going gonna really take off in the future they both got a pop like there's just no way they're gonna be a World Series contending team with Fladdy being a good hitter like that just can't happen he's got to be great he's got to be like last year by the end of the year
Starting point is 00:03:19 is one of the seven or eight best bats in baseball and there were times where he was legitimately the most dangerous at bat in baseball. Like he was as tough as anybody to get out. You knew he was going to register hits. You knew he was going to produce runs and that's got to be revived and if it does and you coincide that or marry that with a team that's you know showing depth and showing fundamentals and playing aggressively like they have all year that's showing depth and showing fundamentals and playing aggressively like they have all year, that's going to go a long way. Yeah. And it could be one of those things where, like Jim Ducat mentioned, by the end
Starting point is 00:03:54 of the season, maybe the numbers are what they're supposed to be for Vladi, but maybe on the lower side of what they're supposed to be, there's always that range, right? Like this is a great year, this is a good year that's a that's a great question Strati because he's at 12 home runs right now there's I can't imagine he gets to 40 but he can get somewhere into the mid 30s I would think or pushing up on she's gotta be able to he's got to double his his current run home run production like by the end of the year, you gotta have 24 or 25, minimum. Like, you know.
Starting point is 00:04:26 That's minimum, that's just doing what you did. Yes. Like I think he's gotta do what he did plus make up some ground based on what you didn't do in the first half. He's very capable at doing that. Like you could, a guy like him, you get high, you could hit 12 home runs in a month.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Like no problem. You know, you get red hot, you have a couple of two run, you know, two home run games and all of a sudden the bats starting to heat up. Yeah, I agree. I think the total's gotta be 25 is the start. Like you gotta have 25 in the bank by the end of the year. But, but just like we said with the Leafs, right? Like fans don't necessarily, no one throws a parade for 60 goals. no one throws a parade for selkie votes, they throw parades for teams that win.
Starting point is 00:05:09 So as long as Vlad is pulling his weight and the team wins, we're not really going to, I don't know, we're not going to disparage it. The team is winning. It really gets exposed if the team comes out in the second half here and doesn't win and all of a sudden it's like we're a month down the road and they're five games back of the Yankees. And it's like, well, you're not climbing out of that unless Vladdy goes on a heater now. But look at Aaron Judge, what he's doing in New York.
Starting point is 00:05:38 He's hitting and the team has won quite a bit with him there. Yeah. No, exactly. That's what's gonna be needed. And ultimately they need, I think the Blue Jays are in a position here, and Keegan was talking about it yesterday, where you need to be aggressive and be greedy
Starting point is 00:05:55 and be thinking of running away with the division. You know, don't just hold on with a two-game lead over the Yankees. You know, chase 93 wins 94 95 wins try to really secure your spot and not only by winning the division but maybe your top two seed in the American League then you avoid the wild card round altogether. I mean that's and that's where Vladdy factors in like everything just continues to move the way you add another two or three wins to the win column is Guerrero can single-handedly do it and Bichette can do it and if you get Varsho back and Santander back all of this could be available
Starting point is 00:06:30 to the Blue Jays and if it all comes together you're going to have a special stretch run here through August and into September. Week seven of the CFL beginning tonight and Chad Kelly is still not ready to return. It sounded like he's real close. The Argos are in Montreal. They're a massive underdog. I think a double digit dog. I think 10 and a half on Fandl I believe. Alouettes three and two, they're off to a pretty good start. The East seemingly like every other year is more watered down than the West. Here's our CFL NFL reporter and insider here's Dave Naylor. How you doing? Nail gun. Hey Brian you know you mentioned the the West
Starting point is 00:07:10 dominance over the East in the CFL. This is one of these things that I always get asked about like why why why why and I and I have no answer I've tried to answer a million times. There was a period in like the last four or five years where like for a year remember when the Golden State Warriors were just rocking like just steamrolling everybody like there were complaints The NBA had become non-competitive because of the Golden State Warriors, right? around that time for about a year and a half West had a higher win percentage against the in the cfl than the golden state
Starting point is 00:07:45 warriors did in the nba well wildcat and and i can tell you what golden state of that win percentage i can tell you what the if all that i'm not sure either and yet you get to the great cop and you know the articles with snake in a way and yet and you know what obviously you get to a one game playoff and anything
Starting point is 00:08:06 can happen. Even in the West, with that being the case, the depth, it seems like Winnipeg has just been the pace car for so long. You look at the Argos and there's been a lot of discussion about how many guys they've lost and especially on the defensive side of things. They're one in four, they're in you know they're waiting for Kelly to return as we said the East it does not appear as if anyone's going to run away with this it's still possible it's early in the season but what what do you think the Argos are thinking right now like what is a
Starting point is 00:08:37 reasonable expectation for them the rest of the way and and do you think they can get to a point the season where they feel comfortable they can and will make the playoffs you know i i think were really on the chad kelly train here and you know from from my my latest information start of the week with you know that kelly was you know friends kelly but he still wasn't running team drill so i'm not sure it's like
Starting point is 00:09:00 that close they still be a little while away you know based on on what he's doing in practice. And look, this is kind of deja vu for the Arbis, right? Because they missed Kelly for half the season last year because of the suspension. But here's the difference. And Nick Arbuckle basically was the guy last year like he has been this year. Here's the difference. Last year, their defense was playing pretty well, especially after the first month of the season, and it was also a scoring defense.
Starting point is 00:09:27 They were getting like a pick six or a fumble recovery, force fumble deep in territory, they're creating turnovers in short field. So it was a lot of complimentary football that the defense was providing to pick up an offense that wasn't really in sync. Same thing on special teams. I mean, Jenarian Grant was a machine last year in terms of giving the Argos field position. So, you know, I mean, the definition of complementary
Starting point is 00:09:50 football is basically when one side of the ball is not doing its job, the other side will pick it up and compensate. They were getting that last year when Chad Kelly was out. They're not getting it this year. That's the difference between last year's Argos without Kelly and this year. What about down there in Hamilton? Are you liking what you're seeing from their quarterback playing enough from their defense? You know, it's funny. The first few weeks of the season, everybody was jacked up to see what Hamilton would be like. They finished really strong last year, Bolivai Mitchell
Starting point is 00:10:20 had a huge second half. They go out and sign Kenny Lawler, who's maybe the best receiver in the league. And the first two, three weeks, it was like, when's the show begin? Where are the fireworks? What is this? And the last two, three weeks, it's been a different show. I mean, Kenny Lawler is playing at such an exceptional level right now.
Starting point is 00:10:40 I have to think of the last time we've seen a receiver in the CFL who's that dominant. And look, this guy was a big time player in college. He played with Jared Goff at Cal and he was a draft pick of the Seahawks, of course, former teammate of our friend Luke Wilson while he was with the Seahawks. And he's a guy who's had a lot of injuries, so they hasn't really put together that spectacular season. But the GM in Hamilton, Ted Gavaya,
Starting point is 00:11:05 was the assistant GM in Winnipeg. So he knows Kenny Lawler, he knew what he was buying, he went out in the market, paid top of the value, and that's what they're getting from him. I mean, again, it's not like he's wide open. Like this is a guy who's a contested catch guy. Like he's a physical receiver. He will go vertical and he will fight you for the football that's what we've seen in him and on the defensive
Starting point is 00:11:28 side of the ball you know Hamilton their second overall pick in the draft this year was a guy out of Windsor from the University of Windsor named Devin Varasek and he got a look-see in Indianapolis and was a little bit late for Ticac camp because he was kind of waiting to see if he gets signed in the NFL but but linebacker from you sports signed in the NFL. But linebacker from U-sports to the CFL, especially middle linebacker, tends to be a very rare path. Like Mike O'Shea did it 30 years ago, coming out of Guelph and was starting for the Thai Cats.
Starting point is 00:11:55 But most U-sport linebackers end up as special teams players in the CFL, a lot of them. And then a lot of them don't really good, if they do get into starting roles, it's not gonna be very quickly. Devin Barasek has started three games and been a linebacker for Hamilton the last three games. They've won them all he's I believe led them in tackles every one of those games led all players in tackles and has a pick six so this is a special player that is doing things we don't see very often
Starting point is 00:12:23 so they're getting some presence on the offensive side of they're getting some presence on the offensive side of the ball, getting some presence on the defensive side of the ball. I think people are feeling a lot better about the direction of the Ticats than they were the first couple of weeks of the year. Dave, you talked about knowing what you're buying and I think the Calgary Stampeters would be pretty happy with what they got in Vernon Adams Jr. And of course BC was in a bit of a bind last year. They had Rourke, they had Adams and Adams moves on to Calgary
Starting point is 00:12:46 They're four-and-one now. What can you say about his play with that team this season? I'll tell you the Calgary Stampeders must be looking at the stars going what are the chances that when we bottomed out? You know and we're ready to retool the roster and change a bunch of the coaching staff and begin that rebuilding process and look for Our next guy that Vernon Adams is available. 31 years old, seasoned, proven. I mean, if it was anybody else but Nathan Rohr, the opportunity to go to BC, Vernon Adams would still be their quarterback. And he's not just a dynamic player and a guy who can do all kinds of things at his position. He's also a guy who sets culture.
Starting point is 00:13:25 Everywhere Vernon Adams has been, he's been a leader. He's a guy who understands this league and kind of how to conduct himself off season, in season. I remember talking to Jalen Philpott, one of the Philpott twins who was a free agent last year after starting three years with Calgary, and I was talking to him about the decision to go back to the stands after they kind of
Starting point is 00:13:46 bottomed out last year. And it was clear he'd spent a lot of conversations in the off season with Vernon Adams. Vernon Adams arrived in Calgary and not only became starting quarterback, but he became the leader of the team to retain guys. And it's been dramatic. The other thing they did was,
Starting point is 00:14:03 I mean, Calgary had the worst record in the league last year. So you get the first overall pick. Okay, getting the first overall pick in the CFL is not like getting the first overall pick in the NFL. You're still probably picking a developmental player. You're probably still picking a guy who's not gonna have an impact on your roster, you know, until maybe late in his rookie year,
Starting point is 00:14:18 maybe even year two. Well, they took a guy named Damian Alford, who played most of his college career in Syracuse, but that Utah last year was hurt all year. I mean, he had, I think it was like six for one 55 and two touchdowns on, and on the weekend, second straight game, he's had a touchdown. He's a six, five, six, six guy out of Montreal. He can high point the ball.
Starting point is 00:14:38 He's got speed. We don't usually see rookie Canadian receivers, you know receivers splash like this in their first two months in the league. So, there are a few things going right in Calgary, but definitely Vernon Adams. It's such a luxury for a rebuilding team to be able to go out and find a player like that right in the heart of his prime and start to build around him. With Dave Naylor, and obviously the reason he was available was because Nathan Rourke was on his way back to BC.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And it didn't go well for Rourke last year, the transition after taking kicks at the can at the NFL and jumping around to a bunch of different spots in the NFL, obviously Jacksonville first and foremost. But the last few weeks he's looked pretty good. I mean, they just laid a beating on Struddy's Alix in his backyard, Edmonton. And he's thrown, he's very efficient in terms of throwing. He didn't have to run the ball because they were winning so big the other day on Sunday night, I believe it was.
Starting point is 00:15:34 But the previous few games, his legs look better. Like that's what he was right now, before he had that really tough injury a couple of years ago. Like he was a dual threat with his arm, with his legs. He looks like he's pretty close to being back to form from my standpoint. Where do you stand on Nathan Rourke and him possibly getting back to that MOP status? I very much agree with you, Brian. I think we saw it right in week number one in their
Starting point is 00:15:58 first win against the Alks. Then he has the injury the next couple of weeks. It's an oblique, so it's the kind of thing that takes some time to heal. And he's taken practice in first team one day, and then not the next, and that kind of in and out of the lineup thing he was working. But I thought he played very well in the game the other night. Look, I'm not surprised here.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Nathan works 27 years old, so he's not a kid anymore. He's right in the heart of his prime. And when you come back from the National Football League in mid-season, there's not much of a history of guys really coming back and lighting it up, the second half of the year. I mean, there were three prominent players that came back from the NFL last year.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Matthew Betts came back from the Detroit Lions, BC Lions last year, didn't have a great second half. Austin Mack came back from the Atlanta Falcons, the Montreal, the receiver, he didn't have a great second half, and neither did Nathan Rourke. Look, I don't know this but I'm gonna speculate that, Nathan Rourke's a kid who grew up in Oakville dreaming of playing in the National Football League.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And he got himself there and once you get there in the kind of position he was in as a free agent coming out of the CFL, you need some things to break your way. I mean, it's just the way it is. If Brock Purdy hadn't had everybody fall down in front of him in San mean, it's just the way it is. Like, you know, if Brock Purdy hadn't had everybody fall down in front of him in San Francisco, we wouldn't know who he is.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I mean, it's just, they just don't make way for seventh round picks or free agent quarterback. You kinda just need things to fall in your direction to get an opportunity. It never really did for Nathan. And I'm sure processing the end of that NFL dream, and I don't wanna say it's over for him in the NFL, but the odds are unlikely that he ends up going back.
Starting point is 00:17:27 It's just the longer you're here, the older you get, the less opportunity there is to make that jump. So I'm sure that was something that just emotionally was tough for him to process last year, but he's reset himself. I thought he looked kind of burned out at the end of last year, but he's really reset himself this off season.
Starting point is 00:17:42 The Lions are a bit of a work in progress, but I don't think Nathan Rourke is. I think if he's the outstanding player at the end of this year, I will not be surprised at all. I think he's going to have a very good season and a long career in the CFL. He really looks like the guy that we saw in 2022 before he went to Jacksonville. Dave, as you know, the Elks turned to some of their alumni to fill some important positions in their organization, including GM and president, got a new coach, everything's changed. Are you seeing enough traction that this team is going to maybe find a different path into the second half?
Starting point is 00:18:16 I mean, it's a bye week in Edmonton, and I think they got conversations about what to do on both sides of the ball. I mean, the Trey Ford thing gets a lot of the attention. And just to put Trey Ford in context for people who don't understand it. Trey Ford played football at the University of Waterloo. In the last 50 years, the number of U-sport quarterbacks who have been handed the keys to an offense,
Starting point is 00:18:43 like not as a fill-in duty, but like you're our guy, out of the gate number one, he's it. Like there's nobody else. So he's trying to do something that isn't done very often. He's, again, an athletically freakish player who can make Lamar Jackson type plays at times, but he also can mess up simple plays. And that's been the variance
Starting point is 00:19:03 that people have seen in Trey Ford. I think there is a discussion in Edmonton about looking at sort of what is his first five games of the season been. It was a big step backwards against BC. They got to win. You can't rebuild a fan base once you get to one and six or one and seven. You're talking about next year. That's one conversation I think is being had and the other one and seven. You're talking about next year. So that's one conversation I think is being had
Starting point is 00:19:25 and the other is the defense. I mean, they wouldn't spend a relative terms, a boatload on their defense, and particularly the front six or seven. And they have given up the most points per game this season. They've given up the most yards per game this season, and they've given up the most passing yards this season. When you go out and spend the kind of money,
Starting point is 00:19:43 I mean, they got a couple of of lineman that are making the excess of two hundred fifty thousand dollars which is cfl money is a lot for a defensive player and it it's just not getting it done and that i don't think that makes the assignment for tray ford any easier because of the young quarterback you don't want to put him in a position where you're chasing scores in the second half and that's where they've been you know most of the time
Starting point is 00:20:03 with dave nailer tsn uh... cfl nfl reporter been you know most of the time. We're Dave Naylor at TSN, CFL, NFL reporter and insider. Week seven of the CFL beginning tonight. Argos in Montreal playing the Alouettes. So a big story that you broke this week. Sean Lemon has been reinstated by the CFL. Stuart Johnston of course the new commissioner of the CFL. Lemon famously was suspended indefinitely last April for wagering on CFL games. He's not a young guy. He's, I believe, 36. He's a free agent now. So what does this mean now that he's been reinstated?
Starting point is 00:20:37 Are you surprised at all that what seemed like a lifetime ban actually was about 15, 16 months? What kind of market is going to be out there for and yeah i would say what thirty six thirty six-year-old defense alignment suspended indefinitely that's probably the end of the career i would write it out at the time and like i think part of it was like he appealed his suspension right and the basis of his appeal i believe was essentially i didn't know you couldn't do that
Starting point is 00:21:05 and they didn't know you know that you do that was that wrong was that wrong and wagering on the hands of the uh... or or nobody formally told me you can't do that i don't know that's really his argument right case actually and he went and got independent representation for that he's the cfd the cfl pa did not in his appeal, which is pretty unusual for a guy to go outside the union and make that argument. So look, I think I know the league office was not happy that he appealed and maybe the fact that there's a new commissioner made this more possible.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I think there was also a more contrite version of Sean Lemon in this case, taking counseling, accepting counseling, not talking about the argument that he made you know a year ago but he lives in montreal year-round from my understanding the alouettes lobbied on his back in the background here and they do have a degree of interest i'm kind of surprised they haven't
Starting point is 00:21:58 signed them or make a little while before you take a copy here's the other element of the story elements or he had to gain suspension for a positive positive for banned substance so what he does can't always hold it that was a legal about not about it to be fair to shot and he was in a very good uh... everything finally about the next hour i think they can work off one of the two-game suspension tonight right uh... but uh... you'll be on the practice roster a few weeks anyway. But look, I think it comes down to precedent, right?
Starting point is 00:22:28 If you look at other leagues, he didn't bet against his team, he bet on his team. It was, I think, one parlay ticket where he played like a Hamilton Tiger Cat money line and a Calgary Stampeeder plus six for like a hundred bucks Canadian on an offshore. So it wasn't like he, you know, he wasn't throwing games. He didn't have ten grand on the game.
Starting point is 00:22:49 You still can't do it. But ultimately, you know, the league didn't decide it was worth a lifetime ban. Okay. And that's, listen, this is sticky. Like the integrity of the sports stuff is sticky because everyone's in bed with gambling. Gambling's legal now, you know, at least in the province of Ontario. I think we all know it's going to be a ripple effect throughout the country at some point. It certainly is down in the States.
Starting point is 00:23:13 It's a very different world than it used to be. Yet, I think if anything more than ever, you probably have to be that much more diligent, right, Dave? Because now people that aren't gambling are really looking at this wonder like what's going on in the sports world what what's right like it's it's a different complexion today than it was ten years ago well absolutely and and to that point about diligence and listen this is a real mystery around the CFL I've had people from teams call me and say do you know how they caught him and I mean like, like, not to tell me, but to ask me.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Because here's the thing, Sean Lemon placed that bet with an offshore, not with a licensed book. Right? So you would think, okay, you know, if I find a book somewhere in Asia and place a parlay ticket on a, or Europe, because I believe that the currency that he bet in was Europe's, so it would have been in Europe somewhere. He bet one parlay ticket on a tie cat and a stamp game and the league found it. That's what's incredible to me, is that the league found that.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And I got people to- You've got to bet in crypto now. You've got to hide it in crypto, Dave. Well somebody from the team called me and said, do you know how they did it? Because I want to know because I want to scare our young players by telling them, hey, don't try this. Because never mind betting on FanDuel or one of the partners or one of the well-known licensed books, but even if you go to Europe on an unlicensed book, obviously they can find it. I have no idea how they did it. But I think that tells you there is a level of diligence
Starting point is 00:24:43 that the league was find out big-time yet that that is very interesting and yet you know shot lemon these he sees on his way back to serve one more other suspension that is to that i'll get out of the way you know hundred and two career fact that that and like the last time he was on the field for the first four weeks last season of during the appeal and yet a product you get to the quarterback. So I expect he will be an alouette very soon.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Okay. Yeah. Pass rushing, man. Yeah. Everyone's got to have it. You got to have it. All right, Dave. Great catching up with you, man. Appreciate you doing this. Hey, awesome, guys. Take care. See ya. There's Dave Naylor, a CFL insider, CFL on TSN continuing tonight, week seven Argos, alouettesetson i love that defense and no one technically told me i can't do that come on it was that wrong yeah was that was i'm not supposed to have the plead ignorance on that i have
Starting point is 00:25:35 to read me sorry no one set it directly to me that i'm not allowed to do that what it is a pretty rose yeah i could never heard of Pete Rose? Has he ever heard of Pete Rose? Maybe he hasn't. At some point it feels not very real. I'm like, are you serious? Are you really saying that?
Starting point is 00:25:55 But if you're going offshore and betting in Euros, don't you kind of know you're not supposed to do it? Or else you would just do it on FanDuel. Exactly. You go down, if you, you're playing if you're on Fanduil You're going down to play a pro line ticket or something like that That you're calling Klaus in Germany saying throw five hunch on the Argos tonight But it's like do you go to I shouldn't go to a Coldplay concert and Be cuddling my mistress during whatever fix No one told him he wasn't supposed to do that straight. Is that not okay?
Starting point is 00:26:30 Imagine the conversations they would have been having like yeah fix you they're gonna play fix you and I'm gonna have my arms wrapped Around you and it's gonna be great. That's our song. That's our song. That's the affair song everyone Having an affair. That's the song. That's our song. That's the affair song. Everyone knows that. You're having an affair. That's the song that everyone loves. Oh, could you imagine that feeling on your stomach when that camera flashes on you? The second it went on, you could see him just squirm. Like the Coldplay guy, he just starts squirming. And now it's just blown up. Like the guy's backstory, the woman's backstory, uh... now it's just blown up like the it but the guys back story the woman's back story what what's going on with the two i guess they had another
Starting point is 00:27:08 colleague that was right beside them and she she was kinda laughing and she was the hr disciple of what she knew what was going on clear yeah that the one of the best things i saw on twitter among all the great tweeds is well who holds hr accountable now hr holding everyone accountable who that could you get that's the best part like you know someone in that business got a slap on the wrist for doing something they weren't supposed to do
Starting point is 00:27:34 in the hr woman came down and said like what do you think you're doing and now that guys like are you kidding me you with the cio at the coldplay concert like we yell yelling at me for? I'm just trying to get by here and This is like the whole company. I can't even imagine what work imagine the group chats last night. Oh You know and the head of HR were Hooking up at the Coldplay concert Out of sync they were swaying out of sync to the music. Now, if we show that one more time,
Starting point is 00:28:07 is that Mitch Marner who pops up in the background with the glasses on? It might be. It's his doppelganger. You know, you can see. So here they are, oh boy, I'm in trouble. Then this guy's got his hands up in there. Then all of a sudden, nowhere,
Starting point is 00:28:18 Mitchell Marner. There's Mitch. No, no, this is it right here. This is him. Right there, 93 for the Coldplay's. He's fired up, look at him. That is Mitch right here. This is him right there That is Mitch I think it is him I think that's it Boston I think you're right that could be Marner He might be up there in that CEO suite. Who knows what there is It does look like Mitch. He looks comfortable. He looks like he's happy. He's everywhere
Starting point is 00:28:40 Yeah, you can't get away from Mitch Marner right now Yeah, the Coldplay crew. That's a tough one, man. That's that thing is everywhere I also saw another one that was great. It was you know on LinkedIn It has that banner that says open to work or open for work It had the picture of them to hugging it says open for work open for work And just the the way they weaseled out of bringing their significant others to the concert is another... I just need to see...
Starting point is 00:29:10 I want to hear that. Because you know it was some... You know the guy had to say something like, oh, it's just for work. We only got enough tickets to bring some of the crew. And I wish I could bring you. And meanwhile, these two have a big plan for when fix you is being played and just great song though. Yeah Listen, they're not that they're okay. I get it. I could take it or leave it with Coldplay, but they're okay. They're not yeah Yeah, anyway now we got to see if they could top that and like what's gonna happen in the future like I'm guessing
Starting point is 00:29:43 They're in Boston for four nights. I'm assuming like they're probably there for three or four nights. Oh he's gonna be making jokes like crazy. What's his name Chris? Chris Martin? He's gonna be making jokes like crazy. He's gonna you know pan over to people like hey you'll be working the crowd. You have a significant other at home or is that your wife? He'll be working the crowd.
Starting point is 00:29:59 It'll be a yuck yucks type vibe I would think for Coldplay tonight. But think of the people they're gonna go with their you know They're a fair people like those plans are broken. Oh like for sure I was planning going like hey, babe We can't go some guy had a plan tonight with her shirt piece and he's like all bets are off. You're out not happening We're not can't risk it all play tonightot happen. Might have saved some marriages. Yeah. Well, that's true. Maybe these two-
Starting point is 00:30:27 That's the good that comes out of this. These two had to sacrifice themselves for the betterment of everyone else's marriage. They were slain on the altar of misery so other people could enjoy the rest of their summer. That's right. The big winner in all this, the CEO's soon-to-be ex-wife as she cashes in. Oh, it's going to be. And possibly the CFO who's like, I'm coming, I'm going up.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I'm moving up because I don't know if this guy's sticking around. This guy's a loose cannon CEO. He's out there with his mistress. They don't want this guy leading the company. You can't have him representing a publicly traded company. No chance, man. Someone's going to step right into that gig and send a check. Kuralnik and Koliakivu, they do winners and losers
Starting point is 00:31:09 at the weekend. We already know who the big winner, the big winners are. Whoever is second in command at that company, the Bobby Webster of that company is like, let's go. Let's move here. How about if there's like, you know, how companies send out memos and they don't address like who they're actually trying to address in the memo, but you can kind of
Starting point is 00:31:33 fill in the blanks. Yes. What if there's a memo that goes out and it's like, just for everyone's clarification, we are very against inter company relations. Anything in public, please disclose with HR. Just a reminder to everyone. From the second in command with HR, because it can't be the one that's running the show, clearly. Those are the best.
Starting point is 00:31:57 I used to get that all the time, not all the time, but the passive aggressive emails from daycare when I drop my kids off not follow some rule i was supposed to follow you know like you're not supposed to come in through the side door and then it email like twenty minutes after i left just a reminder to all parents of like that's me just just send it to me right like you don't have to include everyone else i know you're talking about me
Starting point is 00:32:23 i came in the side door you were standing there we locked eyes you were not happy you have to send the passive aggressive email send me a text give me a call to say don't do it again i get it don't drag everyone else in this uh... right best bets coming up overdrive continues t s and ten fifty anon t s and two season
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Starting point is 00:33:03 Even if you're a total newbie. Stream This Week in Gaming on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, coverage of the 153rd open from Royal Port Rush on Overdrive brought to you by Subaru and Scotty Scheffler three under. I think that's very significant. McElroy one under. The Canadians, the four Canadians all over part. None of them played well. But um... for me, you know, a dream scenario is Scheffler, McElroy
Starting point is 00:33:37 in the hunt. That's what you're looking for. Like, you're looking for those two guys. Um... ultimately the the the the number one, number two guys in the sport, McElroy back in Northern Ireland, Scheffler wondering why he wants to win, you know, his little existential commentary earlier than a week. It'd be interesting if he does win because you know a media guy immediately is going to say, what are you going to have for dinner tonight?
Starting point is 00:34:02 Like, try to be funny and kind of crack them up. But yeah, it's day one. And it's a different vibe, isn't it? Like, these guys are going out at 5.30 in the morning. I woke up at around 7.00. I looked at my phone, and guys are on the back nine. It's just a totally different golf experience than anything else we're going to see over here.
Starting point is 00:34:22 They're grinding. Like, every year, though, it's the're grinding like every year though. It's the elements It's the rain. It's the wind you get, you know all kinds of variants within the round But the fact that they're playing these six really six six and a half hour rounds I think that that adds so much more like even even us we go out there. We play around that's four and a half hours You're drained. You're like I'm losing focus here I need to eat these guys are they got to keep it locked in for that amount of time under those conditions that's that's tough big time let's spread it over four days right it's not just the one day where
Starting point is 00:34:56 you guys are out there hacking it up right for five or six hours you're doing four days that's a lot it's and then the wear and tear of the body it's yeah it's the survival right a battle of surviving sure Yes, dude. Let me ask you guys something. I played in one of those charity scrambles on Monday. It's always it's nice You know, they've raised a lot of money. It was great, but long round whatever six six scrambles, but it's all good It's all good. Oh long. I was in I was in a great group young guys We had a great time but and we respectable, like we weren't dead last, but we weren't minus 18, like some groups will say they are,
Starting point is 00:35:31 we're like minus eight, minus nine. But we weren't doing the big woos and cheers when we were making our birdie putts. And it felt like we could hear it from every corner of the chorus, like those guys are screaming, these guys are screaming, and we're like are we doing it wrong
Starting point is 00:35:47 and what what is who are they just making forty footers everyone around us and we're not i i don't know where you guys are at you guys must chair it play in those charity scrambles like are you yeah open it up high i don't know what not so i think it's more who i'm not so right like if you have someone that's you know clearly I think it's more who does it, right? If you have someone that's clearly not a golfer or someone who's kind of been struggling and then they do something that's very beneficial to the team, then I think that calls for a
Starting point is 00:36:15 hey, all right, rah rah, great stuff. You hit a putt that we needed. You haven't brought anything else to the table the whole round, but thank you for that putt. But just doing it every single hole it seems a little bit extreme and there's also no context to it because who knows are they like if it's an eagle or something like if you're on a two and a par five and someone hits a 20-footer sure like show some emotion but if it's like a little pitch and putt course and everyone's got inside 10 feet for birdies, that just doesn't seem like you need to go that far.
Starting point is 00:36:49 But I guess it's about the camaraderie, I don't know. We were just hearing it a lot. We were like, let's see, we've made like eight or nine birdies. Like we've made like eight or nine birdies. We're not, you know, we're acting like we've done it and we're just hearing it from everywhere. Yeah. Sounds like a culture issue. birdies, we're acting like we've done it and we're just hearing it from everywhere. It's too much. It sounds like a culture issue. You guys had no energy and that's probably why you finished average like everybody else.
Starting point is 00:37:12 You don't want to finish first. You don't want to finish first in those things because then everyone starts to ask questions like, okay guys, big time. Scramble winner. How many mulligans? Yeah, net 48, 45 or something. How is that possible? It's always nice to win.
Starting point is 00:37:26 And I have to win often. But I always love it, there's always one person in the group who has to get their drives in. And you can just see them sweating it out. Because the ones I play, you usually have to get two or three drives in each and the others are open. And that one guy is like, oh my God, how many holes are left? I've only got one drive, I've got to get two. I'm like, don't worry, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:37:45 And he's just like, just awful off the tee. You'll be fine, James. You'll be fine. You're just yelling at him. He's so bad. And then he hits just terrible. You've got a par five and you're hitting from like 20 yards off the tee. Like it's fine.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Don't worry, we'll get it there. Like that's the guy I love to play with. Yeah. Well, that's the guy. It's awkward because at some point everyone else has had the conversation to tell him to just take a seven iron out and try to hit the fairway. You know what I mean? Like we have to use your ball. You cannot keep that driver on earth. Do us a favor, hit a wedge and just get on the fairway and we'll take it from there we have to right you're killing us here man yeah I was playing go first that guy's gotta go first has to go pressure just but he knows it play the worst
Starting point is 00:38:33 worries if you're the guy that's always going first you know you're it's everyone's just like you're you're wasting people's time you know I mean like right don't do your practice swing routine. Don't waggle the club. Just hit and move, please. The first time you get to the green, you try to figure out who the worst putter is. You're like, Frankie, go first. Because you just see the guy just driving right through. You're judging everyone based on their posture, how they've played so far, but hey,
Starting point is 00:39:06 just run it up there, see what it looks like. You're right. Show us the line. I think you're the worst one. Yeah, show us the line. The issue is the first guy when he's a horrible putter, he's going to blow it three feet wide and eight feet past the hole, and you're like, I have no idea what this thing's doing still. I see Snakey downhill putt, He just hammers it straight.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Like, dude, that did not show us anything. Please. My buddies tell me not to leave a birdie putt short. Well, you haven't been close to any putts all day. Just hit it halfway there. So at least we get a read halfway there. Some opportunity to learn something from you. Please.
Starting point is 00:39:41 You're a black hole. You're killing us here. It's true, man. I'm doing a scramble next week. I haven't done one in years. I have a pretty heavy proponent. You're a celebrity? No, no, it's a TSN thing actually. There's a bunch of the newsroom guys are throwing stuff or whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Frankie, you must not got the invite i was just thinking that for you know i just get a little bit i'm busy that day yeah frankie's actually working i got the invite i live in emittent yeah you'd believe that i think you would be a ringer of what i'm anticipating happening here but i am a big proponent of play your own ball, but that's not the rules.
Starting point is 00:40:25 And you know, you can't come in and be like, I'll just play my own ball. But it's a grind to scramble thing. Like if you get people out and four golf balls in four different directions and I don't know, I don't know what to expect. But you gotta have, you gotta have a good group that you're cool to hang out with for six hours. And that's, I was, I, that's what're cool to hang out with for six hours. That's what I had Monday. By the time the six hours was done, I was like, this was great. It was a long day, but you wouldn't even know because you're with good people.
Starting point is 00:40:53 That's what you need on a day like that. The guy that hits his ball and never watches it till it stops and never has any idea where his ball is. Did you see where my ball went? Yeah, it went at the third tree. I've been watching your ball for the last eight holes. Just watch your ball till it stops rolling. I don't understand why you don't do that. No, I gotta go over and get their ball and then I gotta go get my ball. Like it's so annoying.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Here's another thing. Do you go just straight to your ball? You're like, I know my ball. That's my responsibility. I'll see you guys at the ball we're using. No, you gotta help people out. Like I think it's important to help people out because you need them to help you out because I'm guilty of what you just expressed there strut because I might get especially off the tee like I'm not generally with any other club but I'll get pissed off if you snap Hawk one you're like you and then if you move your eyes for a second it's gone and then I know I aggravate
Starting point is 00:41:44 the got my buddy so I I play with because I think they're like, dude, why are we watching where your ball goes? Which is totally reasonable. Obviously I should be the one following it. It's my golf ball and I might want to find it and actually play it. The amount of times I've relied on buddies to be like, was it here? I could tell they're like why do you not know this no but that's in a normal round in a scramble scrambles different I guess in a scramble you've probably been given a sleeve of balls that you're okay to lose for the right you're swinging out of your shoes like you're
Starting point is 00:42:17 not gonna spend five minutes going to look in the fescue for your ball in a scramble or maybe you are very I feel like in the scramble it's like guys let's just go, if you see it, okay great, if you don't, let's just go and we'll hit. If you're that far off the path, they're not using your ball anyway. Exactly. Forget it. Leave it there and move on. It's like you just don't want to lose that $3.50 ball that you have.
Starting point is 00:42:43 But the big hitters just swing for the fences every time. Then you got your single guys, they hit it up one eighty and you see how it goes after that. If you're a big hitter and you hit it off into the trees, just leave it. I don't even go look for it. I'm like, it's fine. Take it. You gave me that ball anyways.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Take it. I'll be leaving it to you. It was probably a range ball anyways, eh, Stratty? Oh, I love the range ball. Except when the compression's like eighty, then I can't use those, right? I gotta get the nice ones. But I've been known to take balls out of someone else's bag. If I'm going for the deep hits, I just take it out of their bag.
Starting point is 00:43:12 They don't know. That's so greasy. That's one way of doing it. How do they know? Because everyone parks their cart, and I walk by just reaching, grab a ball out of their bag, and I just crank it. Because why do I have to pay for the balls? No, you think about it, I'm like... Well, why do they have to pay for the balls? Well, you think about it on like…
Starting point is 00:43:25 Well, why do they have to pay for the balls? Yeah, why do they have to pay for your errant shots? So, no, but listen, so there's 18 holes on the course. Let's say there's 10 where you can just go for it. So why do I have to pay it? I use nice balls. Do I have to pay my $5, $6 for a ball every time I crash into the trees? No.
Starting point is 00:43:41 So I reach in there and oh, jeez, who plays pinnacles? Throw it back in, play it out and I get whatever and I just crank it. So yeah in a tournament I'm sorry to be telling everyone but I have stolen balls that are someone else's bag. I refuse to lose mine That's a huge that's a huge There's is what you're saying like you know, you're losing a ball So you're gonna lose your buddies golf ball, so it's okay to lose lose your buddies pinnacle, but not your tailor-made TPX 5. Yeah, that's right. Because I've been losing them.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Because I'm trying for the team, right? I'm blocking shots for the team out there. They're not. The pinnacle guy's not trying. He stinks. You look down on the pinnacle guy. How dare you? Yeah, don't look down on that guy.
Starting point is 00:44:17 He's like, Struddy, come on Struddy, hit it deep. Yeah, I'm trying. And I'm swimming right out of my... It's all I can. I put everything on to this and sometimes it goes a little crazy. So why do I have to keep losing my ball? So I dip until Jimmy's bag, pull it out, ooh pinnacle, I drop it back in, grab another, oh there it is, Pro V, launch it, bang. See you later.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Okay. I'm not proud of it, but I've done it. I might do that myself next time. Am I the only guy who's done this? You've never done that, Frankie. I've never heard of anybody stealing golf balls from somebody else. I've never experienced this before. But if I saw someone rifling through my bag, I'd be like, can I help you? You not have any golf balls possibly a confrontation
Starting point is 00:44:52 I saw so I don't I'd happily loan you a golf ball if you need one, but just stealing it is Steering stream. It's the only call play card the team. You're like a play guy of golf is what you're establishing It's like sharing tape at Mets like hey, I like a play guy of golf is what you're establishing here It's like sharing tape at Mets like hey, I don't have any tape here Frank. No problem. Here's the clear I mean wrap it up. So this is I just here's the ball They don't know that was another thing when your kids like there was always the one guy that never had tape We're looking right at him guaranteed probably never has exactly some road tourney You're playing six games in three days and strutting every single game Strut go buy some tape. Yeah mix in a roll here, please
Starting point is 00:45:34 Best bets coming up I wish I could have bet on that men's league game in Newmarket last night McDavid and dry saddle apparently they got pumped Not a good sign for the Oilers moving forward. Oh, like David and dry shuttle They can't even win a men's league game better make changes I just know first you have to give here Oh for a skate. I'd be cool. It looks good though Just got we should we should put a little maybe we should put a team together. Hey hazy Yeah, get strutty out. We'll get noodles and net look at McDavid just getting stoned all night. Who's that goalie? You guys supply tape? Yeah, that's the least e-bug next year.
Starting point is 00:46:08 If you come out here and come for a skate study, I'll bring the tape. No problem. Done. I'll bring golf balls. I'll supply you a couple sleeves of balls. You don't have to tell me. Just leave them in your bag. You know I'm going to steal them out of there. Okay. Best bets powered by Fando. We'll get to that next. songs you love. New interviews and newly unearthed archive footage make for a fascinating weekly deep dive. Stream Encore, the stories behind the songs you love on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, today's Best Bets powered by Fandall. Make your picks and assemble a same game parlor in seconds on the Fandall Sportsbook. Yeah, I'm going to take the points with the Argos
Starting point is 00:47:02 down now. It's down to nine and a half, they're desperate. They're one and four they have to compete. They're coming off a bye week You've got to be in this game tonight nine and a half is a big number. I'll take the points Argos on the spread tonight best bets powered by Fandel again Assemble same game parlor in seconds on the Fandel Sportsbook. Yeah, please play responsibly 19 plus, physically located in Ontario. Strudy, happy birthday. It's been a blast. Thank you. Happy birthday, buddy. Thank you guys. And I apologize to those I stole balls from. That's all good. It's not none of us. We don't care. Yeah, just just you don't have to do it here. You can just text Rashad. It's okay. Yeah, sorry about that
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