OverDrive - OverDrive - July 21, 2025 - Hour 3

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jason Strudwick and Jonas Siegel for Hour 3 on OverDrive! MLB.com Blue Jays Reporter Keegan Matheson joins ahead of the Blue Jays and Yankees' series to dive into the team's thriving... streak, the trade deadline options for the lineup and Anthony Santander's injury issues on the roster. The guys dive into the Toronto Sports Quarter Century Bracket for the Most Valuable Athletes and ESPN PGA Analyst Michael Collins joins to discuss Scottie Scheffler's win at the Open Championship, his skill set on the course and the Tiger Woods' alignments with accolades and the FanDuel Best Bets.

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Starting point is 00:01:14 What a week it's gonna be after sweeping the Giants you got three against the Yankees at home Then you go to the Tigers you got four against Detroit in Detroit starting Thursday So, you know four against Detroit in Detroit starting Thursday. So we were discussing watching 12 hours of golf and how much of a commitment that is. Baseball is not far off. Every night they're playing. But we've discussed this before. There's nothing worse than being a fan of a team that stinks because the season is so long and you just never get a break
Starting point is 00:01:46 You know every night you're like, oh they're playing again. They're probably gonna lose but Conversely not much better in sports if you get a really good team that you're a fan of and they're winning because they literally play every Night, it's so exciting. You can't wait to see him play This is a way beyond yeah, exactly No, coach. Are you just here's go to it. You just you're just trying to turn like every time you know what this on you want to turn the TV on like tonight I'm going to find a way to get that game on to watch the Yankees play at the Jays. I was
Starting point is 00:02:12 going to pull us off topic but this reminds me of the 84 games with the new CBA. Does that like you guys hate it? Do you? Two games is such a minor amount I think it's unnecessary I don't I've never been in the position where I'm like man I could really use you know another game tonight at any point in the season generally speaking you know with a sport like that so physical I generally go the other way but less exhibition though doesn not a good day after after everyone else like i i think that's a the player trying to make the team i think it's hard
Starting point is 00:02:50 like i i could say i thought one exhibition game and i was good to go like you we practice so much so right now my top speed no but everyone would be the same boat you don't need aids exhibition games to get yourself up and running but i feel for the guy who kind of has an outside puncher's chance to make the team, because now you're, you know, with four games that the big guys are playing, you know, two games each, two half a team, you got to have many games to try to prove yourself. Well, from that standpoint, it is it is valid that even the regular the the exhibition games will be better, because you're gonna get better rosters quality, you know, when you Yeah,
Starting point is 00:03:23 like sometimes when using the Leafs as an example They play the eight games and like the Teams will go to Detroit. Hey, oh, it's like a man like you'd be an East Coast hockey league Basically with like with a name. Yeah, they had to have a certain amount of pros it would always be the third pairing defensemen and the fourth liners and Now you're generally going to get You know not the a team. You're not gonna get everyone playing every game, but you're generally going to get you know not the a-team you're not gonna get everyone playing every game but you're gonna get 75% of
Starting point is 00:03:49 the a-team well that's why I'm saying I bet you get almost I bet you get your lineup yeah more or less it's like I want everyone there and you're starting having your number one goalie to play probably the whole game yeah half team half team three-quarters team final team team, see you later. Yeah, for sure. I like it. Yeah, so from that standpoint, it will be, I guess, a benefit. There you go. We stumbled across something we agree with.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Go for it. 84 games, shorter preseason, we like it. Jay's Yankees tonight and Gosman on the Mount tonight, Scherzer tomorrow and Bassett on Wednesday. They're going to see Max max freed i believe tomorrow night and uh... scoobal later in the week cdf read scoobal
Starting point is 00:04:31 over the course of three or four nights this week but the bats have been red hot i think you gotta be pretty positive that the jays are gonna find a way to produce runs in come out of the break it was a significant statement we talked a lot about a last week including with our main man keegan matheson where he pointed out You got to start strong and that's exactly what they did the last three nights. Let's head down to the dome here He is from MLB comm
Starting point is 00:04:54 Part-time co-host of this very program. Here's Keegan Matheson. How you doing Keegan? Fellas I'm back in the coal mines here at my real job. It's not nearly as glamorous Right exactly, you know're we're doing well we gotta do both of them suited up to get a little fc earlier with their own do a little later so you know sweating in the suit but everything's going well guys more blue jays win the more i have to put on a tie it's a bit of a dangerous game here
Starting point is 00:05:19 not throw that you look good you feel good and uh... the the teams playing good man i mean it's it's amazing what can happen because we're we're discussing this off the top of the show keegan you look at even the lineup tonight you know get Ernie Clement leading off you got Loper Fido playing in rights you've got like a list of guys and a roster and a lineup card that if you pick them up and put them in the lineup last year you'd say well That's a team that's gonna win 76 games, which is what happened and this year they're on pace for somewhere in the mid 90s Like how do we make sense of this where you know again?
Starting point is 00:05:55 It's it's not all these additions from the offseason that have launched them into a different category It really is the internal improvement, which is somewhat incredible considering how much we goofed on that commentary this time last year. Exactly. It's all the stuff that we typically make fun of when you're here every season. There's going to be internal improvement. They're going to put the roster together in better ways. They're going to find advantages. what is it winning in the aggregate all of this stuff that is front office speak that you roll your eyes at and that really tends to mean nothing most years when you hear it it's working and when
Starting point is 00:06:36 it works you have to call it what it is it's working right now and most of this most of it comes from the players side they've done an incredible job of this, most of it comes from the player side. They've done an incredible job of this and playing their roles, guys. And accepting a role in Major League Baseball does not come easily to everyone. When you are a platoon guy who's going to play 100 games, sometimes the guy thinks they should be playing 150 and that affects them. I think the Blue Jays and their players have done the right job of knowing their role, sticking with it and succeeding in it. Beyond that guys, the coaching staff deserves some credit in this.
Starting point is 00:07:11 David Poppins and the hitting staff of course deserves a large share of that. I think John Schneider is going to get some buzz for AL manager of the year and I think he deserves that. It's a situation right now where this team was supposed to be about 500. They're chasing an AL East title right now. That's what gets you in the conversation for AL Manager of the Year. He's gonna be in that and it's just all working.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Guys, this is what it looks like when it all works. Not just one or two things, but the whole thing all at once and it might get better with the deadline. So Keegan, you touched it, it's all working. And one thing that I really think is that everyone feels empowered, that they can have an impact on the game. So where is that coming from?
Starting point is 00:07:52 Is that from a youngish vet like Vlad, empowering these guys? Is it the staff, the manager? Where is this success of just these guys feeling like they can contribute or should contribute every night. Yeah, that's such a great word and I love that they're being empowered to do this because I've been around teams and I know you guys have been around these types of teams in different sports where when a young guy comes up they're a little nervous. Am I allowed to sit here? Am I
Starting point is 00:08:19 allowed to get on in on this card game? Am I overstepping? Do I tick off a veteran if I do this the wrong way? I don't sense any of that guys. There's still order. It's not chaos in there and it's not a daycare, but it's a clubhouse that when the young guys walk in or when a AAA guy who comes up for one day, there's a sense that they can contribute right away in a meaningful way and a sense that they belong and are part of it. I've been around club houses where that's just not the case and it doesn't feel good. Where I can see that reliever who just came up looking nervous and awkward and left out. It's honestly guys, it's uncomfortable to be around and I've been around it a lot, but this is the complete opposite and
Starting point is 00:09:09 That allows guys to hit the ground running and like Joey Loper Fido is a good example He's been a triple-a all year nothing spectacular down there But he came up boom right into the game and he's helping them with immediately That does matter and I think that comes from the players comes from veteran guys like Bassett and Gosman Scherzer George Springer was a big part of this. But guys like Vladdy too. If you are a 21 or 24 year old kid and you get called up to the Blue Jays and the dude making 500 million bucks comes over and welcomes you and makes it clear that this is where you're supposed to be, everything gets easier.
Starting point is 00:09:41 And suddenly you are yourself again. Your shoulders are back, you're standing straight and you feel like you belong. You get rid of that week long awkward period of how do the flights work, how do the hotels work, how does my life work. You get rid of that and you're a ball player. That's how it works. One of the bigger, I mean there's so many topics leading up to the trade deadline, we're
Starting point is 00:10:03 ten days away from that and obviously that's kind of the overarching topic and then you get the yankees here they get a three game lead on them consider where they were two weeks ago but that the daily chatter about who's gonna bat leadoff uh... i think will consistently you know take place do you you know ernie clements it leadoff against my we've seen a variety
Starting point is 00:10:22 different players over the course of the year do it do you think they're ever gonna settle on a guy you know in that spot do you think that's something they might be trying to achieve between now the trade deadline what do you see happening terms of the leadoff spot you know the rest of the way i don't think they're going to guys settle on one person you'll see ernie
Starting point is 00:10:41 clements definitely can't let these people on their good fit you'll see nathan lucas they could lefties and he belongs there. That's a good fit. You'll see Nathan Lucas. They could go back to some Beau Bichette but I like where Beau's hitting now. Guys, I don't think this team's had a real true lead-off hitter the past four, five, six, seven years and at times that's been a problem and it's been a problem for example when they were trying to wedge Beau Bichette into that spot. I like bo being in spots where he has some runners on base and he can try to do some damage because bo is a singles hitter doesn't excite me all that much. Bo bachette when he's driving the ball is one of the most dynamic and unique offensive short stops in baseball which is what he needs to get back to and leadoff hitters can look a lot of different ways. Kyle Schworber is a great leadoff hitter. He does not look like the small slap-hitting, steal-a-base type of guy, but it is something,
Starting point is 00:11:32 I think, that kind of under the radar the Blue Jays could look at at this trade deadline or at the latest in the offseason. If there's a big splash to be made for a leadoff hitter that really changes the entire look of this lineup, that's got to be made for a leadoff hitter that really changes the entire look of this lineup that's got to be attractive. They're making it work with Ernie Clement, with Nathan Lucas, two guys who I didn't think would have a single game at leadoff, but that's kind of the theme of the season. But if they would be able to find a true, legitimate number one leadoff guy, that would change everything in this lineup
Starting point is 00:12:05 and I think that would slide guys even into more advantageous spots especially platoon wise down the line up well so Keegan let's say a certain player in Cleveland Stephen Kwan is available and obviously would cost a lot because I think he has two more years do you think that's an investment they would be willing to make because obviously you're gonna have to pay to get that type of player? Isn't he such a Ross Atkins style ball player guy? Yes. And he's in Cleveland which really helps. Exactly. Like if Ross Atkins has a Stephen Kwan poster in his office already I would not be surprised. He's
Starting point is 00:12:43 kind of like a souped up version of all these players the Blue Jays have rolling pretty well right now. Now, Kwon would not raise the offensive ceiling significantly right now. He's not having his best offensive here, but it's still a menace to face as a pitcher. He's a really annoying hitter to face, which I mean in the most complimentary of ways but the defense of course fits in with what this team is doing as that hand of bad as well it fits in a lot of ways yes it would be expensive but anything cool you're gonna do is expensive and this has got to be an expensive deadline for the Blue Jays
Starting point is 00:13:20 their farm systems had a good year which essentially means they have more money in their pocket. They have some fun money to spend and man if if you win the AL East, not even if you win the World Series guys, if you win the East, if you get to the ALCS, think of those 2015 and 16 teams guys. They didn't win the World Series, they didn't make the World Series but they're beloved and they're still talked about because they went for it, man. Stephen Kwan is a player that casual fans in this city have heard of. Yeah, improving your bench, that's fun, great, whatever. But what made 15 and 16 so exciting is that people had heard of Troy Tulewinski.
Starting point is 00:14:00 They'd heard of David Price. These were stars. These are guys who had been to all-star games. When you raise the ceiling with someone that people have heard of, man, that's the ticket back to 15 and 16. That's the ticket back to this being the coolest spot in town, sold out every night. Keegan, have you got an update for the guys that aren't playing? Well, once down, Minoa and then Sauton Dare. What's the latest on these guys? Well, Minoa is the simple one and the good one. He threw two innings there yesterday, 28 pitches I think.
Starting point is 00:14:29 He's probably going to make, gosh, four, five, six more starts. At this point, I think you look at him as a bonus. If he makes it back this year, it's a bonus and you're very happy. This is more about next year with Manon, but if an injury happens and Manon comes back at the right time, A, that would work out, B, you know that the big man would lean into that narrative, he'd be all over it. That would be pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Sonton Dare guys is the mystery and mysteries are not good. John Schneider said today it's still going to be a couple of weeks until he starts swinging again but that it's still a week to week sort of deal and it's not a ton of weeks left guys So there are there eight nine weeks left in the regular season and it's been this way for two months already At this point, it's starting to feel like we might not see him play again this year We'll see on that the Jays aren't ruling that out and we don't have the info that we should yet But when something like this drags on and on and on and shoulders are complicated things many police starts to ramp up it's going to be slow
Starting point is 00:15:28 and even when he was playing it wasn't good so that's been a a mysterious one and mysteries are not a good thing when you're talking about an injury so that's uh... file that on the back to that's for now with uh... keegan matheson mob dot, so in terms of the vibes around the team today compared to when the Yankees arrived a couple of weeks ago for that four game series that the Jays eventually swept, how would you describe it? How would you describe where this team
Starting point is 00:15:57 is at going into this series? I can't imagine they sweep them again. That would be seven straight wins against the Yankees in two weeks. That seems unlikely. But the idea of them winning two out of three and all of a sudden you leave this series and head to Detroit with a four game lead over the Yankees would be massively significant. And I can't imagine they'd have anything but uber confidence that at a minimum that can happen starting tonight. Yeah, this is momentum guys. Like there's, there are not any feelings in pro sports like the one around the ball club chasing
Starting point is 00:16:35 the postseason because for the team and for fans, but for these players, like there's no time to overthink. There's no time to overanalyze and take three days to pour overwatch. You got a game and then there's a game and a game and a game. This race is such a sense of momentum right now. And it can be addicting because right now the roles have changed. When the Yankees were here three weeks ago, the Jays were two down and they were chasing the Yankees
Starting point is 00:16:58 because they're always chasing the Yankees. The Jays have been the little brother since 2016. And they've been at that kids table now they're the ones being hunted and that's a different game and if you're mac scherzer or george springer you know what that looks like but for a lot of young players they don't know how it feels to be at the top of the division and be chased and i think that might be a good thing
Starting point is 00:17:21 you know whatever play your own game and right now if the yankees they can create some distance but they're gonna get everyone's best from now on the yankees are not going to be saving relievers for whatever their next series is i don't care what it is the jay's of the team that's being chased now for the red sox for the orioles for the raise everyone's looking up at toronto and i think the Jays need to embrace that.
Starting point is 00:17:45 That's where they should be. You're a big market, big payroll. You're supposed to be on top at this point. You feel that sense of momentum every single day, man. It can snowball quickly. Sure can, man. Things change quickly. But it's going to be a fun week for this team.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Again, they got three at home against the Yankees starting tonight, then they had to Detroit for four. Big big week coming off a big big weekend enjoy down there Keegan we'll do it again later in the week you got it fellows take care Keegan Mathis and mlb.com uh yeah it's going to be fun it's going to be fun when the Yankees are looking up at the Blue Jays late in July that's always a good thing and they just won two or three down in Atlanta. And you're gonna get Rodon on the mound tonight. Set a good year, you're gonna get Max Fried later in the series.
Starting point is 00:18:31 So you're gonna face the best of the best, but that's what you faced two weeks ago. The Yankees four best against the Jays four best, and we saw how that played out. So that series kicking off tonight down at the Dome. Michael Collins of ESPN later in the hour on Scotty Scheffler and His greatness and what we saw this week and what we've seen out of him the last few years and what can be expected The next three or four out of Scotty
Starting point is 00:18:54 Also get to our best bets and we'll reveal our 16 most valuable Toronto athletes the last 25 years we're gonna cut eight of them eight of them are getting cut We're gonna continue to move on as we get closer to the end of the week so we'll do that and again Michael Collins coming up overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. Claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament. I've been visualizing my match all week. She was so focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column behind her car on her backhand side. Good thing Claudia's with Intact, the insurer with the largest network
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Starting point is 00:19:47 on Jay's Yankees tonight and Michael Collins will join us on Scotty Scheffler very routine open championship is now got three of the four majors he's won four in his career couple players he's won all these elevated events the face the Ryder Cup which is the next I mean you get the. I mean, the face of the Ryder Cup, which is the next, I mean, you get the FedEx Cup playoffs still coming, but the Ryder Cup in less than two months in New York,
Starting point is 00:20:11 Beth Page, gonna be amazing. So a lot to get into with Michael, but earlier today, we revealed in honor of the quarter century, we're obviously in the year 2025, we're introducing the TSN 1050 Toronto Sports quarter century bracket challenge. Rest of the summer, we're introducing the TSN 1050 Toronto Sports Quarter century bracket challenge rest of the summer. We have different categories, but we're gonna launch it with The most valuable division. All right, Jonas most valuable division strutty. You can contribute I know I know you're secretly a big Toronto sports fan. I know it massive massive as you should be
Starting point is 00:20:43 So in terms of the battles now this I think is gonna be there's gonna be a lot of like guarantees in my opinion I have in my mind who I think should win this and we can get to that as the week goes on but Jonas I'll throw a couple out you and you tell me where you stand okay in terms of the one versus 16 it's a little bit unfair to the 16 see because these are all great players but kawaii leonard or john to bars obvious
Starting point is 00:21:09 yes that it clearly has to be kawaii leonard right staying on the center the bracket keep this up on the t v guys now this one stop ricky ray josh donaldson ray one ray was a winner obviously as the quarterback of the argues who do you take
Starting point is 00:21:25 there? Ricky Ray or Josh Donaldson? I don't have a ton of EFL knowledge, but I know that Josh Donaldson was MVP. Yes, he was. And was like just a sensation here. And like good defensively, good offensively, I would take Donaldson. He had the moxie, man. He was kind of the face of that 15-16 team. Yeah, I would take Donaldson. He had the moxie man. He was so likeable. Yeah I would take Donaldson. As much as Bautista you know was the guy the first one here. That kind of felt like Donaldson's team in 1516. So and a great trade like one of the best trades
Starting point is 00:22:00 oh absolutely maybe in Toronto sports history I don't to. One of the great ones, you know, up there with the Gilmore trade and you know, there's, there's been a lot of great, great trades. There's been a lot of awful, horrible trades too. Yeah. Maybe we'll get to that at some point. Yeah. Quarter century awful trade list. But I would lean Donaldson as well with all due respect to Ricky and Ricky was a winner and a quarterback Donaldson, different beast. Now how about Jose Bautista, Mitch Marner? This one's going to be tough because like Bautista has got the bat flip obviously, which
Starting point is 00:22:33 I will say Bautista because of that playoff moment. Marner doesn't have one playoff moment. Like not one big playoff moment. He doesn't. Four Nations Cup? No. Yeah, but that's not a Toronto thing. You're right I mean he was trying to say Mitch being a 13 seed though seems that seems a little bit You think you'd be higher that's a Vegas gold knight play in Europe. Well, there's 25 years Right with a lot of great athletes, but Marner
Starting point is 00:23:04 Probably does deserve to be a higher rating than that but I'm gonna go about tista yeah I'm going about tista simply because of 15 and 16 half lip and the bat flip like that is the I think the most famous game with the last 25 years I think maybe the rap made a shot away yeah yeah that's yeah I mean the Raptors run in 19 obviously has to be separated a little bit because they actually completed the whole thing and won it in the end. But I think, you know, game five, ALDS, seventh inning, like that's the most famous inning of the last 25 years. Do you know what's funny though, Hayes? Like
Starting point is 00:23:41 you mentioned Marner in the playoffs. I had forgot this and it's like a long time ago to remember Was it the 2018 playoffs? Against first round against Boston Boston. You're gonna say when he blocked the shot Blocking of the shot. I think he had scored two goals the game before Yeah, he was good and Bruce Cassidy was was poppin his tires back then and that's like that's too long yes and did they win that series they did not did he show up in game seven of that series i don't believe he did
Starting point is 00:24:12 bautista moving on right now they michael bradley howard a or proud and you can vote on all this on twitter instagram follow at tsn ten fifty this was tougher than it looks because Bradley again was the captain of the team that won. Like they won MLS Cup. They went to multiple MLS Cup finals where Halliday was just never on a team to be that valuable. But man, he was the best player in baseball. I know, he was the best pitcher. You could argue the best player in the last 25 years,
Starting point is 00:24:43 for sure. For the Jays? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, as great as Donaldson and Bautista and Delgado were like holiday, I think you could easily make that case. Yeah. That he was like the best player period. Like he was just talented production. You just knew what you were going to get every time. He's going to go seven innings. Yeah. To give you a good start. Definition of a horse. Yeah. best starter in baseball for like a good three
Starting point is 00:25:07 or four year stretch yes like the man yeah I don't know but I can't it's just they never they were never in a position to win but what do you want him to do like he did everything he could do yeah remember those teams like they were terrible they weren't very role Mondesi and they tried they had a couple years where they pumped money in and they tried to bring in an ad agent and and and and and and troy gloss they tried to make moves and just didn't didn't fly are you put out and yeah
Starting point is 00:25:37 they're quickly let's move to the next uh... side of the bracket here get to the other seats that are available uh... where mania forget this up on the screen because I don't have it in front of me guys. Alright, we'll wait a moment. But this is going to continue throughout the week here where we've got obviously different categories and we've got different ways for you to vote. And again, you can go online at TSN 1050 Radio on Twitter or at TSN 1050 on Instagram. So there's another half of the bracket that we don't have up
Starting point is 00:26:07 evidently on TV and now I'm trying to find it on my computer. There it is. Alright, here we go. Austin Matthews or Pascal Siakam? Jonas, who would you take? So Siakam obviously won and was an important part of the team. Yes he did, played a prominent role in that team. He was a very important starter. But I'm sorry, Matthews. You going awesome. Struddy, would you agree with that? You're a starter but I I'm sorry Matthew's you going on Strati would you agree with that you're Matthew super fan I got yeah I do know I would I would go with him just as time his time in Toronto has been yes yes nine years after what they were before he arrived now Siakam to an extent as well but he
Starting point is 00:26:40 didn't represent the same thing like Matt them winning the lottery him going first overall rookie of the year Haven't missed the playoffs since he's been here. It's Matthews Matthews number one now This is where it gets interesting Vince Carter or Sebastian Javinko Javinko was the best player on those teams with Bradley and Altidora, but Javinko was Like he's he's with was the best player on that MLS Cup winning team out of spite. I'm taking Javinko I can't take Vince Like I take a nice because of the way Vince went out. I've made it so clear I don't need to keep digging this up
Starting point is 00:27:12 But the way you can't be the most valuable when you quit on the team and demand it out Like no chance the only argument in his fate. Well, maybe not the only there's no argument didn't win a thing There's there's some argument to his graduation on game seven was the maybe the most popular player in the league for like a little bit there he was definitely the most popular player here well yeah that's all he like he took basketball here to a different level or see we might not have or shame without Vince I have not buying that for a second I I hear you. Shane Gildes Alexander has to pay homage to Vince Carter. Come on. I think he would tell you that. I think it's
Starting point is 00:27:53 like come on. He was a sensation. Shane was born in 2000. Shane didn't even watch Vince Carter. He did. He was like Vince got here in 99. Anyway, I hear you. I get he was important, but I think a lot of that's been overstated personally. But anyway, I'm not taking it. We wouldn't have Anthony Bennett without exactly. There you go. You can have Anthony Bennett. The world can have Anthony Bennett. Thanks to Vince. I'm a Jonas Heiko Vince Carter. I'm not sure how this is even a, I don't know anything about Javinko one. He was international. I'm just not taking bits I'm sorry Kyle Lowry or Carlos Delgado this is a hard one this isn't that hard for
Starting point is 00:28:30 me it's Lowry I don't think that that's true it has to be underselling Delgado was a better player in his sport than Lowry by a lot not by a lot he by a lot no he wasn't. Was Lowry ever a top 30 player's not Larry ever a top 30 player in the in basketball no yes top 30 player in the league no yes you were he was an all-star multiple times in the East so how many guys go to the all-star game 30 he was he was no I think it's like 12 a conference okay so even less than that there you go I don't think I got a very good player awesome not an all-time great player though
Starting point is 00:29:05 God like he's not an all-time great He was like one of the best players in the league for like a little how many MVPs did he win? I think he was second one year wasn't he I don't recall that listen. He's a great player I'm not here to downplay the greatness of Delgado. I'm pumping the tires of Kyle for me. I mean for me This is a landslide Lowry, you know landslide All right last one before we get to Michael Collins Sondine or DeRosa not Sondine that's Sondine or DeRosa Yeah, I think it's Matt's I think it's gotta be for sure. I mean oh to conference final Unfortunately for tomorrow like he was valuable because he had to go he was beloved to
Starting point is 00:29:43 Yeah, well he played he listened he said the right things and I think they were genuine He had to go. He was beloved too. Yes, tomorrow was. He loved being here. Yeah. Well, he played, he listened, he said the right things. And I think they were genuine, but he realized this was a market that was just dying to be loved by a player, by an American player. And he played it like a fiddle to his credit. And I don't dispute he loved it. I think he really did. But he made sure to prop that up.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I love Toronto. Toronto's the best. I don't want to be anywhere else. Man, we couldn't wait to prop that up. I love Toronto. Toronto's the best. I don't want to be anywhere else man We couldn't wait to hear that From an American star player. It's huge But it's Sunday. All right vote online. Let us know where you take it We'll get this down to eight and we'll continue to vote as we go forward this week Let me know if Michaels on the line guys because
Starting point is 00:30:22 Scotty Scheffler Obviously is a guy of her talking, you know great athletes the last twenty five years he keeps moving up the list great golfers the last twenty five years it's obviously tiger at number one where would she ever come in after tiger like is he creeping towards to is the act to to chat about it were joined now by his being golf analyst here's michael collins a dole michael Ziat to to chat about it. We're joined now by ESPN golf analyst. Here's Michael Collins. How you doing Michael?
Starting point is 00:30:46 What up boys, but hold up. I'm listening a little bit I got a start with something cuz I got a Vince Carter Raptors Jersey upstairs right now Okay, like what was that conversation? Y'all was just having well We're talking about the most valuable athletes in Toronto the last 25 years and Vince is the most complicated athlete probably in the history of the city well years and Vince is the most complicated athlete probably in the history of the city. Well, one of them. Until recently. Yeah, well, yeah, but that's a different story. That's a hockey related thing.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Like Vince was so big, so popular, just the way he went out, Michael, was tough, man. It was tough. He quit on the team, demanded out. It was not good. So, it's complicated. It's complicated, you know? there might be some tax issues stuff You know, I mean that's one of those things people don't talk about a lot, you know that that especially for American players for American players nowadays, it's talked about more back in the day like nobody really knew about it until you got up there
Starting point is 00:31:44 You know, I didn't know about it until I was up there doing standup comedy. Really? Yeah. Big time. And then I was like, Hey man, I mean y'all messed up. You double tax me. We got this two tax thing. I was like, with this two, no, no, I ain't got no two checks. What are you talking about? Yeah. You know, we got it all up here, man. We got provincial, we got federal. Yeah. Back in the talking about? Yeah. You know, we got it all up here, man. We got Provincia, we got Federal. Yeah. Back in the day when athletes didn't understand that, they would come up there and be like, hold up, what you mean I'm getting paid in loonies and toonies and you're taking two
Starting point is 00:32:14 types of taxes out? Be like, yo, I'll go all in for y'all for a minute. But man, then you hear about how much money one of your friends is making in a state like Florida or Texas where there's not even a state tax. You might get a little rubbed the wrong way. You know what I mean? Well, that's a big conversation. People can love you as much as they want to, but they're not going to love you enough to
Starting point is 00:32:39 be paying your bill. Yeah. Believe me, it's a big conversation right me. It's a big conversation right now and It's not only up here. There's other states down there that you know, California New York that hit you pretty hard, too So it's not only up here conversation like talking like how good is Scottie Scheffler gonna be? You know, how about that segue? Am I not the greatest it's beautiful segue you've better you know me asking that you know after after tiger i'm i'm assuming michael you'd have tiger at number one on your list of our daily five years where scott is scotty is he moving towards the second best player the last
Starting point is 00:33:14 twenty five years is in the top three top five where would he be for you i think you know there and the reason that i think he's now there is because he now has other golfers talking about him the way that Tigers competitors spoke about him when he was in his heyday and That's when you want to know when a guy is head and shoulders better than people It's when they're playing competitors are like,
Starting point is 00:33:49 yeah, that dude's game, I don't, he beat me, he beat my A game with his B game. And so when he shows up and doesn't make mistakes, or like everyone said last week, man, if you don't hit the fairways here, you got no chance. And then Scotty hit what? Three fairways on day one. And was just like, he might have been Rick James.
Starting point is 00:34:12 And just been like, I'll get a new couch. Right, didn't matter to him. That's what I'm saying. And then the fact of what he said during his press conference, you know how many athletes are now on the phone with a sports psychologist trying to figure out why they can't get to that mentality?
Starting point is 00:34:35 And I've been saying it for a long time. Like when him and Ted Scott got together and became caddy and player pair, I told you this is gonna be very dangerous. And this also where I give his dad, Scott. Scott Scheffler has been saying this for a long time. I'm not, I was never trying to raise world number one golfer.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I was trying to raise a good human being. Well, mission accomplished, dad. You know how many parents right now that have their kids in some kind of travel sport and they've gone all in on one sport for their kid? You know how many parents don't wanna hear something like that, right? Because they're like, I gotta go all in for this kid
Starting point is 00:35:18 for him to have the best chance. And then you're like, are you creating a good athlete or are you trying to create a good person? Because a lot of times it looks like you're going for the athlete. And so you look at Scottie Scheffler's dad, Scott, and his mom and their family, and that family dynamic is why he has a baseline that puts him in a place that a lot of other athletes, not just golfers, but athletes can't get to. And he's the greatest compartmentalizer of life since Tiger, except when it comes to
Starting point is 00:35:56 like all of his stuff away, he's the most vanilla dude. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's crazy. One thing I feel bad for the tour is because they're like, yo, we got our guy, man. It's going to be awesome. He's going to represent. He like, you know, I'm not really.
Starting point is 00:36:15 I want to do that. You know, hey, man, let's go do some of these off course things. Now, now I'm good. I might be like, um, you're going to help us promote a little bit? Nah, I'm just going to win. I'll be, I'm fine with that. I'm going to win and I'm going to hang out with my family.
Starting point is 00:36:33 So when you look at him, obviously he's had an incredible run and he's obviously found his game. Why is he going to be able to continue this dominance? Like we saw, maybe not quite with Tiger, but we've seen other players drop off. I'm thinking of Spieth and Rory. Why is he different? Because, and he said this in the press conference that he had, and he's said it before, golf is not the end all be all for him. You know what I mean? If you remember in that presser, he also said, I don't know why these tournaments mean so much to me, why I want to win them so badly, but they're not the end all be all.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And you know what the rest of the golfing world, the professional golfers thought to themselves? Well, we wish you'd figure it out and then stop. But he ain't there, right? He's a dude who loves, he loves getting up going to work. And then when he gets to the place where he's going to compete, he loves the competing. And it doesn't matter whether it's for free at the Olympics or whether it's for $20 million at the tour championship. He just wants to win. And he even said, and after I win, it's awesome for three minutes.
Starting point is 00:37:50 But then it's like, meh, all right, what are we doing for dinner tonight? And then what's next? I'm gonna go, I wanna just go back to the grind. Man, let me do all my work and try to maintain and be good. Where other guys are fiddling and fixing and I'm gonna change this a little bit, change that, Scottie not doing it.
Starting point is 00:38:09 So when you say like, oh, you know, how about the run he was on? No, no, it's the run he is on. He is not doing anything that would make someone go, oh, yeah, he's working on tweaking his iron game just a little bit or wants to do something different with his driver or three-word and stuff. And when you see a guy who's not doing that,
Starting point is 00:38:30 you need to be very afraid of the future because he's not changing what he's doing. And that means the results aren't changing anytime soon. What do you think it means for golf though, with what you're talking about with extracurricular stuff? Like is it good? Is it bad? Is it neither? Well, it's a double-edged sword. It's good for Scottie. And the reason it's good for Scottie is because golf is coming back to a good place where it's getting popular slowly but surely again. If you remember, there was a huge drop off
Starting point is 00:39:12 when this big PGA Tour live fight all started happening. People were like, you know what, forget that. I'm tired of millionaires fighting with billionaires. Yeah, I'm good. I don't need none of them. I'll go play golf with my boys at a muni for 68 bucks and Hopefully get a free hot dog that ain't been there for four days When you got a guy like Scotty camera, what's got a camera when you got a guy like Scotty Scheffler?
Starting point is 00:39:35 He's now dominating in a fact where people are like I might be check this dude out Like I ain't watch golf in a minute So let me turn on golf and see if I can see what this dude is really all about. So he brings eyeballs back. Now the flip side of that, the other side of the, the other side of that sword, as you were saying, is it good or bad? The bad news is the other dudes who aren't winning, like Scotty is, they were doing all that extracurricular stuff, like helping promote the tour. And if they stop doing that, then the tour is gonna look around and go,
Starting point is 00:40:10 hey man, you know all these signature events that y'all bitched about and complained, and now we got these things with no cut, so you guys at the top can get your bags too of cash. Well, you're not doing anything to promote nothing. And so by not promoting it, how are we bringing sponsors? Like how are they getting value for their dollars? And if they're not, then guess what happens to your money?
Starting point is 00:40:38 It goes down too. Because now sponsors are like, maybe instead of five million I give you two. And sponsors are not like standing in line being like, oh, I instead of five million, I give you two. And sponsors are not like standing in line being like, oh, I'll go five million in here. Like we don't live in that world anymore. And so golf has to be professional golf. It has to be very careful.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It's a very thin and dangerous line that they are walking right now because it's like some guys, like George Speed, even said, you know, when Scottie Shepard stopped doing all that off-course stuff looking to his success and other guys were like maybe I should do that too and like well be careful like if you're part of that crew that wanted to get all of this extra stuff because you didn't get the bag to leave the tour then you still got to do
Starting point is 00:41:21 that extra stuff to make the big sponsors happy so that they keep sending jets With Michael Collins now we turn the page over to the Ryder Cup now that the majors are over You know, we got the FedEx race and all that but the Ryder Cup in New York Scheffler is the face of that like is how big of a moment is this for him? You know, it's kind of the face of American golf but up in New York where I would think it's you know Bradley's gonna be a forefront. There's gonna be other guys Bryson's gonna be on the team. Yes Yes, Scotty. This is the thing too. Scotty doesn't have to be the face of the Ryder Cup, right? This is Keegan's show This is the thing too. Scotty doesn't have to be the face of the Ryder Cup, right?
Starting point is 00:42:03 This is Keegan's show. That's the thing. So Keegan is going to be the show. And then we heard yesterday that Bryson's on the team regardless, which is a really smart move too, because he's so beloved period around golf and outside of golf as well. So for Scotty, first we'll say for Scotty.
Starting point is 00:42:22 For Scotty, after what happened at the last Ryder Cup seeing how emotional he was about it I expect Scotty to perform even better than he did last time and probably have more input on Hey, listen, I'm I'll play with whoever you need me to play with and we'll make it work, right? I think this is not a buddy's trip. This is a business trip too. As much fun and as crazy it is for New York, this team does not want the European team
Starting point is 00:42:59 and this is going to get played a lot when we get close to the Ryder Cup. People forget. Go back and hit your YouTube and go see what Rory said after they won last time when he was in that winning presser and he was like adamant about we're going to New York and we're going to win there too. Like, oh really? Oh, okay. And you thought you had a little beef with La Cava before also a Connecticut guy close to New York, bro Okay, this is what's been so awesome about the Ryder Cup. It's the only event like it There's nothing there's nothing that compares to the energy and Wow this over the Ryder Cup and I I think both teams are gonna be extremely motivated.
Starting point is 00:43:47 I think the danger, the only thing that I'm nervous about is a little bit of if the crowd goes a little overboard and is like, hey, we wanna be inside the ropes and affecting outcomes. And I'm hoping that that doesn't happen. But as a Philadelphia Eagles fan, it's like, well, I've been there, done that. Like I said, sorry, not sorry. Let me see that ring real quick.
Starting point is 00:44:16 But yeah, I just expect Scotty to have a better rider cup than he did last time. Um, but I believe Keegan is the face of this team and I'm hopeful that as someone who is named captain right now that when he he's gonna play on the team he has to play on the team. But in playing on the team, then he cannot be captain. So what the PGA of America needs to do is to promise Keegan that he will be a Ryder Cup captain in the future so that he can focus on playing and then someone else can step in and be the captain.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Well, we've got a month and a half I guess give or take to figure that out it's gonna be a front stretch run to get down to Long Island. Thank you for this Michael really appreciate it. Yeah I mean come on. Can I just tell y'all how much I miss Canada right now being in Florida and just Come on up, man. We're waiting for you. I know man. I'm like Avenue on Bloor Bathurst and feel like coming to hang those. I this is my It's my top three cities in the whole world love and I miss it. I'm not gonna lie man. I miss it Well get back up and when you do let us know we'll catch up Appreciate you doing this. I know you know some golf. Yeah, you know some guys. I got some golf hookups
Starting point is 00:45:51 Yeah, we got a look look. Yeah all day man. We'll hook you up. Go no problem Thanks, Michael. Thank you. Have you fellas you got it Michael Collins of ESPN. I like that man You don't see too many guys reference like streets. You know people say I love Toronto. It's okay but that's that's pretty good man. Avenue and Bloor. And Botherson Steeles. Yeah Steeles he threw in there which doesn't really connect but he's a Yorkville guy clearly. Alright best bet powered by Fandall coming up. Jay's Yankees tonight. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. Claudia was leaving for her pickleball Yorkville guy, clearly. All right, best bet's powered by Fandil coming up. Jay's Yankees tonight.
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