OverDrive - OverDrive - July 31, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Frank Corrado and Dave Feschuk for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Blue Jays acquiring Shane Bieber to the roster, his role as a starter on the team, his injury becoming a factor, where he fits in a playoff landscape, the Yankees landing David Bednar and Hayes' photo collection. OverDrive co-host Jamie McLennan joins to give his perspective on the Maple Leafs' roster construction, the team's goaltending depth and verifying that he doesn't have a back tattoo.

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TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker up on TSN4, Brian Hayes, Frankie Corrado, Dave Fesschuk in here. We got two more hours until we hit the trade deadline. Things are happening. Trades are being announced. People are being active. It's a beautiful thing. You called for it yesterday, and part of me, Hayes, just thought, I think Hayes is just manifesting because so many times when he's off the show, big things happen.

Maasai got fired, Tavares signs, Hayes nowhere to be found. And now the Jays are effectively the best team in the major leagues. And it's time for them to make something happen. And I felt like you were trying to put it out there and say, do something big. I'm on the show. I'm here this week. give this to me and sure enough

something big happened today something very unique happened like they acquired Shane Bieber who's coming off Tommy John but is making his way up through the minors and just pitched in AA recently the timeline sounds as if

middle of August he could be available now there'll be a pitch count on that he's not going to come up and throw 90, 95 to 100 but I like this gamble it is a high risk high reward

they just went through this with Chad Green picked up a guy coming off Tommy John, and we saw how that worked out for Chad and for the Blue Jays. It's a high risk because if this is the play you're making in terms of acquiring arms with Sir Anthony Dominguez,

who they've already acquired it. Maybe they do something else in the next two hours. We'll see. What if he doesn't make it all the way back? Like if this is your gamble for if Scherzer gets hurt, you got a guy who's coming off Tommy John. Right. If Eric Lauer returns to Eric Lauer status,

you've got a guy coming off Tommy John. There's a big time gamble in this. It's a big time gamble. It is the highest risk, highest reward you can get. But I kind of appreciate that mentality because we've been saying this for weeks, if not months. They have a pretty good rotation. But how are you going to find anyone that's better than Gosman or better than Burrios or better than Bassett? And is it worth it if you can't find somebody who you believe at their best is better than those guys?

while Shane Bieber's better than those guys at his best. So I appreciate the gamble. I appreciate it and I think it's a really savvy play. Look, I like the gamble because it's a big swing for a guy that can be a big piece in September and October, right? Forget August. You know, it might take him a while to get up to speed, but this is a guy who could be top of the rotation.

Like he could be, you know, he could be. One of a Cy Young now five years ago, but still, He's won a Sa-Young. But his recent numbers aren't terrible. Like, it's not like you fell off a cliff. No, exactly. Now, but to talk about the gamble, like, the guy has not pitched since, what, April, 2024.

Yeah, it's a year and a half now, right? He's pitching his way back. He's in a double A right now. Yeah, he's in double A. He's working his way back. And this is the luxury you have when you're the pace car. When you're the pace car and you have a four-game lead on the Yankees who are all in and they've been making moves

and they keep batting to a bullpen that's already pretty good, and it's been better today. Yankees are putting their chips in the middle, saying we're going for it, right? Which is not anyone's surprise or should not come at anyone's surprise. But when you're the pace car, I think that allows you to make a move like Bibo, you say, we'll see you in September.

Yeah. Right? Like we got it. We're fine. We're going to get through August. Everything's going to be fine. And I would assume they're going to get to end of August, if not into September,

maybe move into a six-man rotation. which I think would also be beneficial because it gives your veteran arms and they're all older guys, right, Gosman, Barrios, Basset, Clearly, Max Scher, Bieber 30 coming off Tommy John. Like none of them are 22, 23 saying, let me throw 105, 110 pitches every night or every fifth day. So I think there's a lot of benefit from the fact that you're in the driver's seat, you're the pace car, so it allows you to make a move like this. And this was also their way of finding value in this situation where, you know, we've been hearing about it and talking about it, how the prices are so high, and if you were going to have to give up

a king's ransom for something coming back, at least this has the highest ceiling of what it could be, potentially. Now, he has to stay healthy, he has to find his form. That's not a given at this point, but at least you can stomach this, you know, like your return wasn't what it was going to be for someone who is, I guess, call it healthy and playing, because there is that little bit a risk. But if it pays off, man, like these guys found a lot of value in making this acquisition. Well, and financially there's risk. It doesn't matter to fans. But let's say he comes up and he doesn't look good or he struggles or he's injured. He's got a player option next year that he probably will just pick up automatically. So there is an element

of risk on that front, I guess. But again, I like this play bringing in Shane Bieber. And again, it's a high risk, higher reward. That's how I would describe it. High risk, higher reward, because you're getting, you're getting ace like stuff if he returns to form. And maybe it's October when he does. And maybe even then you can only give you 85, 90 pitches. That's the way it goes in the playoffs anyway. Like that's the way it sets up.

I mean, you're right. But look at me, if you want to take the gamble side of it again, like, this is a guy who, in the year he won the Cy Young, went out in his first career playoff game and got torched by the New York Yankees. Okay? And that is

one of three career playoffs starts. This This guy is not exactly a proven playoff commodity. He's got precisely one playoff win on his resume. More than anyone else on the Blue Jays currently in terms of the Shapiro-Ackin's era. Just pump the brakes, though. I hear what you're saying. This guy is not exactly

this guy is not exactly a proven World Series contending guy yet. Not many guys are. It's not like there was a market for these guys. Yeah. But, yeah, like let's realize it's a gamble in more ways. Yes, of course. At the height of his powers, he came in did a face plant against the Yankees

in his first playoff start. Yeah. So he's got that in him too. He's got that on his resume. He's got that in his personal history. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen. That's his first start. He was pretty young. He was the guy who was about to win the Cy Young. He was the best pitcher in the American League at the time. Yeah. And he did

not perform when it mattered most for his team. That's all I'm saying. It's just a fact. It's a fact. I hear you. It's a fact. I agree. I'm willing to look past that for this. I guess like to Dave's point, you can't completely discard that. We can't just say that that doesn't exist. But given the circumstance where the jays are and what they're trying to do and who is available, it makes sense that this is the

swing that you take. It's a guy who has a lot of upside. And if you were just going to say, you know what, we're not willing to eat the risk. We would come on here at 4 o'clock and say they're not doing anything. And that, I think, is worse than at least trying to bring your ceiling even higher within the rotation. Don't get me wrong. I like the gamble. I'm for the gamble. I think the guy has great possibilities here. Like the Tommy John stuff doesn't scare me that much. The other good thing about the Tommy John situation that he's in is that he's already had his setback.

He was coming back and in June he had some pain in the elbow. They shut him down for a while. They kind of brought him back to Earth, reset, and now he's back on a new trajectory. So this is sort of his second go-round in terms of his rehab from this Tommy John surgery, which is so common now in baseball. It doesn't even scare. Yeah, it's not scary like it was.

GMs as much. 15, 20 years ago. So don't give me around. I like the acquisition, but I'm just saying. Yeah, no, no, that's factual. Let's not pretend this guy. Yeah, it's not Verlander. It's not, you know, Pedro, you're pulling in here.

It's not shilling. I get it. But, again, I've been saying for weeks that I didn't see any reason to pick up a number for a starter. Like, I didn't see the value in that, giving up prospects and they gave up, you know, according to whatever source you want to look at, maybe their fifth best prospect, which is a significant price. And where they could get burned is, again,

if he doesn't return or he comes up and he blows up and then Scherzer gets hurt and you say, why would you do this? Because that's where the predictable fourth guy in the rotation who you know is going to be healthy, at least he'll be available to you. But this is swinging for the fences. This is not just trying to put a ball in play.

This is swinging for the fences. And what I think you're also doing is hedging your bets in connecting with Scherzer. So if you have Bieber and Scherzer, and both have ace-like stuff at their height. You just need one of them probably to get to the finish line. That's, I think, what's important to point out here. Perfect world, maybe you get both.

Like, maybe it's October 1st. They're both healthy. They're both slinging. They both feel great. They both look great. And then you've got a conundrum on your hand because you're going to have to go to probably Burrios, certainly Bassett and say, guess what, guys?

Like, maybe you're pitching game four if we get there. But that's a different conversation for down the road. but I think that's the way I would look at this is you're basically putting two horses together that have big question marks that are banged up that are not guarantees there's no guarantees

but you're putting Scher and Bieber in the middle and say we just need one guy to get to the finish line. Give me one guy with a lively arm in October and you're happy with that and I think if you're looking at who just acquired Shane Bieber that should maybe mute a little bit of the

concerns that they may have from a medical standpoint. Because if Bieber was coming from, pick any team, the brewers, the Padres, yeah, there's, you know, there's more of an element of the unknown. He's, the guy's coming from Cleveland. Like, if anyone, you know, if anyone would have their finger on the pulse as far as what's going on with this guy, it would probably be the guys that were in Cleveland forever. Wouldn't it be? Like, I get, like, I don't want to say that's tampering or anything, but people around the league talk. There's trust there. I'm sure there would be a level of trust that, like, okay, we feel we feel a certain level of comfort

knowing where this guy is coming from and who he's been working. You would hope so because there have been examples of that, especially in baseball, and the Jays have been on the right and wrong side of this. I think every team probably has in the league where you acquire a guy and then your staff looks at him and it's like, he can't pitch. Yes. He can't go.

And, you know, that's, listen, they are prone to do that. Shapiro and Atkins, they did it again, with Chad Green. They went out there and said, we're going to give it a shot. He's coming off Tommy John. obviously Bender. Scherzer was a guy that a lot of teams last year probably weren't going to touch because they were concerned, you know, can he stay healthy? Can he get to the finish line? They will go down this road of taking a gamble on a guy who's injury prone.

And it's worked sometimes. It hasn't worked other times. But I think where you feel like there's stability in the rotation is the three mainstays who, again, are healthy all the time and are going to be available down the stretch. but it opens up questions in terms of what does happen if Bieber returns if Scherzer's healthy what do they do with Lauer do they go with the six-man

rotation through the rest of the year do they move him into the bullpen they've already got you know flu-hardy and little as left-handed relievers out there is there room for a guy like that does he fit the mold does he throw hard enough

is he a velocity guy I like the six-man rotation I do too but that's a smart move by the playoffs so that's not that obviously isn't a part of the rotation no that's not a part of the game plan for the playoffs but i mean to as far as getting there you know that the guys that you have now they're all pretty much quality guys you're going to rest guys a little bit more that have been

like we talked about very healthy like stable presences and now the guys that are coming off injuries or the guys that are prone to injury they get that extra day and they get to manage their pitch count without feeling like you have to go every fifth day i think that's like the six-man rotation i see a lot of wins and not a lot of losses when it comes to like actually implementing that like forget about what happens on the field i'm talking about like the game plan itself of having a six-man rotation well and this this will be interesting if you do put the car before the horse and get to the playoffs but let's presume health all right everything's been magical for the jays this year everything's kind of broken their way let's pretend that just continues and sure's is healthy

and and playing you know pitching well and fever's healthy and pitching well what do they what do you see happen let's say they're in the wild card How do you see their wild card rotation playing out? Good question, man. Like, I still think, I feel like Gosman probably still goes game one, I think. It's impossible to stay right now. Yeah, but then it's probably Bieber and Scherzer, are they ahead of Burrios? I think they are.

Like, if they're at their height, they certainly are. If they're healthy and at their height, they certainly are. But Bieber could easily be the number one. And so could Scherzer. I mean, I think it's more, it's kind of crazy that a guy's coming up Tommy John and currently in AA, yet I might have more faith in him than Scherzer just because of the age that Scherzer's at and he hasn't pitched really consistently well for a few years

and you know the home runs he's been given up and what we've seen lately out of him although he's been much better recently but yeah I guess you know you could see a scenario where it's Bieber game one, Scher's game two Gosman game three for sure and you know I mean look to your point about the trust Frankie

you mean it's one thing to get the report from the Indians and get their feeling about how he is doing, they've been able to see with their own eyes. You know, the guy's been starting in double A. Like he just had, like, he's, what is it, four starts on the, on the minor league trail, 11 innings, what is it, 21 strikeouts, one walk. I mean, like, these are, these are minor league hitters, but he's got command, he's thrown into the zone, he's getting guys out, and whether or not that will translate into major

league outs immediately, who knows, but they've been able to see it with their own eyes. Yeah, they've definitely had scouts down there. I mean, there's no questioning that. And I'm sure other teams of the league did too. Beaver was available. It's like, who wants to pay a price? Now, the question is with less than two hours to go, what else to the

Blue Jays do? Because I still, I look at like the bullpen arms that are flying around, the Yankees have now stacked their bullpen. We know what the Mets did. We know what the Phillies did. You know, there's other teams that are in playoff positions that are loading up. Yes, the Jays acquired Dominguez, and he is an arm that is going to pitch for them.

But I would be, I would feel very uneasy if Jeff Hoffman is still like my, my number one bullpen arm. You've been saying that. That guy just, there's something about the way the ball gets in the air and it flies out of the park. He gets barreled a lot. He gets hit hard. Yeah.

It's still, it's not the most calming thing when, when he's out there, especially in those high leverage situations. But if, if you're thinking about where the Jays need to go for. from here, it is another bullpen arm. It has to be. Like, that's, that's the route now. Now that you've got one more in the rotation, you already did one for the bullpen, you have to do one more, because

that's, regardless of who you have, you're leaning on those guys in times when you really need them to come through. And you know, we'll see what Hoffman, like what that means for him, but he's probably still going to be the closer. Yeah, I mean, realistically, who

is still out there that would be ahead of him? And yes, his numbers aren't great. He's still He's got stuff. He's aggressive when he's on. You know, his save rate's been decent this year. He's born a couple. But, you know, you got Hoffman. You got Rodriguez.

Little's going to pitch. Dominguez is going to pitch. And then I think, you know, the door's open. If you can acquire somebody else that you can fit between, you know, Hoffman and let's say, Dominguez to wrap up your, yeah, it's not the only guys. You're still going to have five, six, seven deep. You're going to have probably Fisher pitching. You know, we'll see what happens with Flew Hardy, who's been better research.

He was very good early in the year, then hit a blip. I don't know what they envision, you know, their bullpen looking like exactly, but you want to have four or five arms that you can really rely on. And as of now, Rodriguez's been really good. Little's been really good. Like, he has been very, very good. Hoffman's going to be a part of it. Dominguez, you know, I'd like, we don't know yet.

Yeah, we don't know. I'd be, I would feel uneasy if they don't acquire a bullpen arm. Between now and six. Like one more. Now you've got to keep putting your chips in the middle. Because you have to kind of picture the scenario, right? Like, do you feel good with a one-run lead, eight innings in, turning it over to Jeff Hoffman to close it out? You know, in a big high-leverage playoff game.

Because you look at it, like he's giving up, what, 10 home runs and a lot of loud out. Yes. A lot of loud out. Yeah. And you don't really want those warning track blasts that turn into, oops. everything that got over the wall in a big moment is concerning for sure

but again it comes down to like what's available what's out there who they can get what they're willing to give up I think acquisition costs at this point you would have to think the bigger names when it comes to relievers should have been

off the board by now like the guys that are more highly coveted so you're not talking about you know two prospects in a pick now at this point like it's got to be something a little more digestible for them I would think, you know, unless, again, there's someone that we're not aware of that is available that, you know, the general public doesn't know about or, you know, again, someone, someone that's currently injured, that they take another gamble on. Another one, yeah, I don't.

I'm not, I don't know who that would be. I don't have an answer or a name for you, but is there another gamble out there where, like, in a month, I think he'll be back. There also could be teams, and I feel like this happens at the NHL trade deadline, too, where they've been, like, they have this play. who they thought they were going to trade and it didn't happen yet. And they're like, well, you know what? We got to get something for someone here. Like we just, we can't hold this guy because he's probably just a rental and it's like, we'll just take a peck

just to say that we got something and the guy didn't walk for free. Like that could be an acquisition cost on someone that comes out of the bullpen. Yeah. Oh, without a doubt. Like Badner was the prize and the Yankees got him, right? And they paid a pretty good price. I mean, it was three prospects.

I mean, depending on your opinion of those prospects, It was either Brian Caspern fleeced them or, you know, they had to give up a lot. I mean, prospects are tough to evaluate. They are. They're in the eye of the beholder. They're in the eye of the evaluator. Well, and furthermore, you also have a different viewpoint if you end up winning. Right.

Right. Like we, I saw, I think it was Sports Center that was doing a hit on this, and I was reading about it online. Like back in 92, the Jays acquired David Cohn, they traded Jeff Kent. Yeah. Guess what? It was worth it. They won.

Because they won a World Series. and Cohn factored insignificantly and pitched multiple times in the World Series and the ALCS and down the stretch was phenomenal. So it's the old adage. If you win, you don't have to explain anything. And who cares what you gave up? You got yourself a parade and you got yourself a banner in the stadium.

So, yeah, all of this obviously is yet to be determined. But I just saw Mitch Bannon tweet out from the athletic. Of note, the Blue Jays MLB Director of Health, Andrew Pipkin, was with Cleveland from 16. 16 through 20. Shane Bieber's first four years with the Guardians. Hey. So, I mean, there...

Again, that's five years ago. It's a long time ago. Bieber would have been young within the system. He won his Cy Young five years ago. But he had about a three, three and a half year run there where he was fourth in Sy Young, seventh in Cy Young. He won the Cy Young in 20. He throws a million strikeouts when he's on.

So I'm excited for this play. I like this play because I, there's... These other names are not going to push Gosman down. in my opinion, or Burrios down, or even Bassett down. It was a fourth filler-type arm. I'd rather a guy where it's like, exactly, it might cost you the same price. It might have cost more. Possibly.

Because it's a live body. Exactly. They were coming in healthy, right? Like this one, there was always going to be that buyer beware and that was going to bring down the price and that's okay. And the fact that there's a connection and they know the organization and there's probably some kind of familiarity there, that's what makes it, you know, I guess, the most likely that the Js would have been

able to pull off a deal like this based on who's pulling the trigger on it? Carlos Correa is on his way back to Houston. So that's obviously where he started his career. That's where he won a World Series and he's been in Minnesota and Minnesota's traded him to Houston.

It's pretty interesting that he's going back there. I thought it ended poorly in Houston. I thought, looked that up, but anyway, yeah, there's still a lot going on man. I like this 6 p.m. deadline. instead of the 3 p.m. Give him a few extra hours, right? Days aren't playing tonight. Let everyone wake up on the West Coast.

Dude, could you imagine we did a hockey 6 p.m. deadline? That would make the day so long. Well, that is the truth, that it would be that much longer. Would we start at 8 a.m.? Yeah, 100%. We would still start at 8 a.m., right. Yeah, we... Yeah, stick with the 3 p.m. You're right in hockey. I'm fine with that. Yeah.

But... By the way, you got friends at Sports Center. You think so? I think you have significant friends as sports. Why is, why do you say that? Because the Hayes Bold Predictions intro

that comes on now when you do your bold prediction. Did you see the picture that they used for that? Yeah, they're using my court side They're using the Rico Suave Blue Steel court side picture. I did see that. I saw like Laura Dykin and Jen Hedger

were having some fun with that last night. It is totally unnecessary to use that picture. The crazy thing is we have like professional head shots that we're done. Like for that reason. Yeah. And someone at Sports Center said, you know what? Not for HazyB. I know. I got to get

Rico Suave in the mix. I got to find out who did that because I owe that person a good luck, dead of gratitude. Yeah. Yeah, it is. It's the best look I've ever had in my life. Like I'm not Hollywood. I'm nowhere close to a 10 out of 10, but man, did I look good on that court side

pick? Dude, that thing. I was so dialed for that thing rolls up and you're like you're like the stephen a who goes to a sporting event and you're the commentator but the camera's got to get your walk-in shot right like you're about to drop 30 on everyone i was so ready for it yeah look at this guy man predictions and they've got me like tanned and you know because it's not like that was like a january game i was pasty and very unhealthy just just don't lie to me you didn't ask for that picture i swear i did not because i don't believe they had that up the first day. I remember seeing it when, because

what's kind of crazy is we're in here on the show and then at 6 p.m. SportsCenters on, so we have TVs in here. I can see them playing the stuff that we've taped earlier. And the first day, I think, was just your standard headshot. And then someone called in from the bullpen saying, you got to put the

hazy B-pick. Oh, someone was like right over the top with that. And I think it's actually the second instance of someone at SportsCenter hooking me up like that? because the Harvey's hot takes. That's not me. Slim body.

I have said that. Like that, A, it's, that's not my, like I have like cheekbones in that. I look very spelt. That's not me. It's almost like it's a zempic haze in that.

It is. And it's not my hair. Like my hair in that picture. The first time I went on with Jay doing that, that was almost two years ago. I said immediately, I'm like, I can't thank you enough.

That's a great, great picture. That is not me. It's not hazy. B, that's Hayes A.I. Yes, exactly. That's Hayes AI. That's exactly what it is. And I'll take it. No one's pulled it. They're just like, well, this is who you are now. So that's what it's, which is a shock to the system when they show that and then they cut to me in my fat face in the basement. And I just did you're a catfish in your basement. I am catfishing people. You're literally

catfishing people for six hours in the morning. I am. If the one on Jay's show is Hayes AI, the one for Sports Center is Hayes GPT. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, further ahead too. Like it's... Oh, look at the difference. They really doctored you up there. Yeah, they doctored me up. They got me it's tinted. It looks photoshop. It looks fake. It doesn't even look real. It's the smile, too, that kills me. It's so

sly and scummy. Yeah, I'm about to drop a real bold prediction on you here. It's so scummy. It's a scummy. It's a lot. It looks like that Hollywood actor, that Adam Scott dude in that, in that shot. Yeah, I'll take that. He's, sure. Yeah, good looking dude. A list. I love it. Is that the guy singing sweet child of mine

in the car with his wife and kids? I believe that's it. I believe that's the guy. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Yeah. Those bold predictions are causing a stir, man. Like, I've run into a couple people who say, can I just stop you for a second?

I've got to ask you. They're bold predictions. Right. Right. Like, that's the nature of it, right? I was asked, can you come up with five? We're doing one each day. You know, I started by a bold prediction that Aaron Rogers

and Mike Tomlin and the Steelers win the AFC North. It's a bold prediction. Very bold. Baltimore is better. Baltimore is better. is a better team. I'm not disputing that. But I think people forget the Steelers were 10

and 3 and then lost their last four games at Philly, at Baltimore, at home to Kansas City. Then Week 18 was a throw... It didn't matter. It was over. Like, they were done. The Ravens had clinched the division, so it was a meaningless game. You know, I don't need to get into all of my

reasoning behind the bowl prediction. But what I've found is it really bothers a lot of people because some of them are promoting things. Like, you're a Steelers fan, you would think that would be fun. And I guess I've gotten, you know, the majority of the feedback has been relatively positive. I had a

bill's one last night. Alan's going to win MVP in the regular season and the Super Bowl MVP and the Bill's going to win the Super Bowl. That's my Bulls prediction. That is bold. That's Bull. But it's supposed to be. Exactly. And a lot of Bill's fans, hey, I like that. Thank you. But then when you do a bold prediction that a team is

going to take a step back, man, people hate you for that. Bold prediction. Would you ding with that? I hit the lions hard with that. And the Chiefs. Oh, the Lions. I got them square between the eyes. Patman will be happy. Yeah. Patman's not happy. Dude, a whole year of you having to give the lions their flowers, that must have really worn on you. One year, you get one year.

For a lifetime. Because I've been goofing on them for 41 years. I gave them one year of positive, you know, feedback, which they deserved. And now you've got to come back to reality. Yeah. But here's, let me quick, I know we're way off scat here and way off the path here. But here is my primary reason for it. Yes, the coordinators have left in Detroit. Ragnow, they're all pro-center retired. That's big.

Their road schedule is outside of starting at Lambo, week one, week 17, 18s, at Bears, at Vikings. So within their division, those are tough games, good teams. They're at Ravens, at Chiefs, at Eagles, at Rams, at commanders, at Bengals. They have the toughest roads. That's a gauntlet. They have no layups. I think they go three and six on the road, four or five on the road,

which means I'm looking at 10 and 7. You don't win the division. That's a big step back. Big time. Bold prediction. Reasonable prediction. Bold, reasonable prediction. Get that picture back up there.

With Rico Slavae, a sitting court side. That picture back up. About to drop 30 on your head. Yes. Feeling good, looking good. Bold. Bold, bold, bold. There is.

You steal bold, baby. I love that. I got to find out who put that. together because that is a massive work-up. You need that, like, as a poster in your basement or something, like, that's got to be... You know what, you're... But the Lions thing isn't that far off, because, like, Alice Brothers pointed out on his show, Lyons get 15 wins last year.

The Vegas over under win total this year is nine and a half. Yeah, exactly. So, it's back to reality. It's built in. Thank you. So, room temperature prediction. I love it. No one carves me more in, like, my stuff online than hedge.

When Hedge, because what I do is, is I tape stuff early, Hedge will play it at 10 or 11, and then always be like, look at this guy. Oh, yeah. Look at Hazy B. Oh, and she got Laura in it last night, too, and they were just howling about it. Like, they saw the visual, and they came back on camera, and they had to, like, collect themselves. Yeah, it's so unnecessary. It's such an unnecessary picture.

And you know, Hedge is listening right now. Oh, of course. Yeah, Hedge. She knows. I know it. I've watched her live, and I'm like, I'm going to take one here. There it is. Look.

Yeah, see, that's not me. That's not me. That is not you. That is not, it's not my hair. That's not, like, look at how thin my cheeks are. It looks like I've got kind of a duster there. That's not, that's like a really good looking person. That's not me. Anyway, all right, noodles is coming up. We got Keegan Matheson today.

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My phone starts blowing up saying, Struddy's just carving you. I'm like, yeah, that's a Tuesday. He carves me all the time. Yeah. Said you had a bad cover-up tattoo on your back. And I'm like, okay, first and foremost, yes, I've got 13 tattoos, but they're mostly all visible on my wrists and my triceps, all that type of stuff. But I don't have anything on my back, and I've never covered up.

a tattoo. So I don't know, is he remembering somebody else? I feel like O-Dog has a cover-up tattoo, not me, right? Oh, he's losing tattoos. Like, he's getting rid of tattoos, man. That guy's going through surgery, like, basically daily. Oh, yeah. I think it's just strutty making things up. He's looking for content. So he's like, oh, there's an easy target. Noodles. He's not on the show. Let's just make something up. I think, Frankie, I said you a note going, this guy's completely lying. He called him a flat-out liar and a content creator. Well, he did do that. Yeah, both can be true. Because it was great content for us.

Outstanding. It was phenomenal stuff. Like once he got into the cover up and how bad that looked, I'm like hookline and sinker, man. We were ratings bonanza. Well, the thing is, I was going to have a picture taken of my back and send it to you guys, but I didn't want to get upset everybody with a hairy gross back and, you know, all of that type of stuff. So I'm like, let's just leave it alone. I will deal with it when I'm on the show next.

Good man. So there we go. Well, it's good to see it. everything going good i you know what i wanted to i wanted your guys's opinion because we've had a spirited debate on vacation so i i have vacation clothes so i've worn my vacation shirt here on the show yeah so it's funny because step and i've been together what 14 15 years so we have pictures where we go to italy every summer and i bring my vacation shirts out so there's pictures from 2012-2013 with the same shirt on like it I love it so my son it's always like what shirt is that I'm

like that's number three that you know I bring seven we go on 14 days I wash I do laundry on the road so we we pack light so this is what I wear to dinner most nights this is not a bad shirt I love that shirt I love that's the summer 2013 it's a beautiful shirt that's what it is it's a beautiful shirt. So I don't know. I mean, am I the only person who has like travel clothes and stuff? I don't have that. We did Italy for our honeymoon two years ago. It was the same clothes that I have. Like I bought a couple shirts. Yeah. And to be honest with you, like, I don't think they've come back out. There's a couple of them that just doesn't make sense to ever wear them anywhere else other than there. I don't know if you can call it a vacation shirt, but you're basically Frank Costanza. You have

cruisewear that sits in an attic for 11 months of the year and then it comes back out for vacation. Last night we got home late, I washed it, I put it in the drawer, and we'll visit it a year from now. That's it. Like when I, I pull it out and the shirts come out. Now, there has been some deterioration with the shirts. I think that's where the frustration comes in because I got a few t-shirts that have some holes in them, but I wear them to the beach. Like, I'm not wearing them out to a five-star dinner. Right. This is my five-star dinner shirt. That's your five-star. Yeah, I love that. I love that.

And sometimes I do find, like, I'll get, you know, photo remorse based on what I was wearing back in the day. Like, we got engaged over in Europe. And for starters, I was still in Griff mode, so I was a disaster. The gear I was wearing was horrendous. Like, I got engaged in, like, an old Navy T-shirt. Do we have any of that pick? Like, does that stuff live in the system? Did we get it?

I don't think it's, like, public knowledge. Like, that stuff's deep in the archives. But I look back on it, I'm like, what was I doing? You know, like, what was I thinking? But it was the same thoughts as you noodles. I'm like, well, I'm just, this is what I'm going to throw in. A few T-shirts, a couple golf shirts. Like, golf shirts are my move on the road.

Yeah. If you're going to somewhere warm, warm climate in the summer, it's golf shirt at night, T-shirt during the day. And it's all good. It's all good. Well, I support you. Okay, good. Like, I felt like I don't have a lot of support with this, but it's like,

you like to travel lean. Yeah. You're not there to impress anybody. That's right. Like, that's the other thing. Like, you don't need to be all dolled up. You're going to relax, blow off some steam. You're laying by the beach or on the beach or, you know, I don't go in the water.

So I just kind of sit by the side of the sidelines, but everyone else is swimming and enjoying themselves. Beautiful. So, you know, I got a little side tan. I got, you know, basically the V tan. That's it. That's all good. That's all good. And that's the way it should be.

I love it. You know what I've noticed online? I'm sure you guys have seen it because, you know, we've been talking about it. of noodles that the NHL is just packed up shop. They are doing nothing. Like there's nothing going on. A couple guys are avoiding arbitration. Samberg signed in Winnipeg yesterday. We'll see what happens

with Nick Robertson. NBA is no different. But now what you're getting is the NHL's social media accounts are publishing like the projected opening night lineups. Yeah. And the only team in the league causing a stir online is the Leafs. Have you

seen it where they posted? They got Max told me, of course, on the top line. And so the Comments are just exploding. Marner to Domi and this team stinks and people in Ottawa. I find a humorous because Sends fans and Habs fans are jumping in. They're like, that team's not making the playoffs. They suck. I'm like, only the Leafs could generate content from a projected lineup card on July 28.

It's so funny because I believe you and Feshchuk were just teeing off on Jonas. Was that yesterday or two days ago? Because Jonas felt like Bobby McMahon was the lock, you know, NHL All-Star that, you know, we haven't seen yet or whatever. Right. Hayes, you broke his heart saying, I'm not even sure he's in the lineup. Yeah, I know. On opening night.

It was not happy with me or Dave, for that matter. But, yeah, he took that one personally. Yeah, but honestly, you're right. Like, it is posting, but I still think there, I don't know how you guys feel. There's another wave coming here, guys, because there's some good players out there that haven't signed. And it might be the Max Patcheretti PTO, route to make teams here. Yes, Max Dome, I don't think that is what it's going to look like opening night,

but it could. You know, we'll see if Max, like, the one thing that Max Domi is capable of is playing better in the regular season. So, you know, it wasn't that, he's not that far removed. I think he got 72 points. That was probably six, seven years ago. But could he get 55? Like, I don't think that's, that's out of the round.

Especially if he's playing with 34, he should be able to. Well, you have to think someone's got to be. Like someone's got to have the purpose of saying, I'm getting 34 the puck, whether it's Domi or Micelli, like someone's got to kind of take that role and run with it because there's a really big void there now, Noodles. Yeah, I think they are going to give a long run. I did agree with Jonas on one thing is that I think I think Barubi is going to give the newcomers a longer look in certain situations just to see if they can settle in, develop some chemistry.

Micelli, I think, is a guy that has some creativity. I don't know. Like, I hate for him to have to go, okay, well, there's Marner's spot. Machelli, you fill it. Because he's going to fail because he's not Mitch Marner. But if he can develop some chemistry, like it might be a scenario where maybe Nielander goes up there and they might start moving things around. Dakota Josh was a nice player.

I like the signing. I think it's a really good sign. He's a big player who's tough to play against. Yeah, he scored, what, 18 as a career high? Could he get 15 to 20, maybe north of 20 if he gets some quality minutes with some good players? Absolutely. Noodles, if he scores 15, but he's confrontational and is a bit of an agitator and can change the temperature of a game. Like, would that not be considered a win for Dakota Joshua?

I think, like, they're dying to get 15 goals from a depth player at this point. Absolutely. Absolutely. That's a win. I keep coming back to, does Nick Robertson make the team? Like, is Nick Robertson opening night? I feel like I don't even know if he's with the organization. I think if things shake out, they might find a spot. You know, you might have to open a spot for somebody else that comes in.

You know, he's a guy that's really polarizing for me because, you know, he has scored. I think he had 12 in 56 games, something like that. Like, he can put the puck in the net, but he seems a little bit more one-dimensional. but he's got now guys that are ready to jump him on the depth chart where does easton fit in does he push for a spot does he you know joshua's in the lineup like that's the thing mchelli's in the lineup those guys they brought in for a reason nicholas wa is in the lineup like tree really likes him from you know i i you know hayes you and i talked to him yeah what was that trade deadline day or no on uh free agent frenzy on july one sorry he was raving about him

Saying, like, we think he's a matchup guy, he's big and, you know, agitating. Like, to me, this team is going to look different, and I don't mind that. Isn't that what we've been begging for? It was mandatory, right? Fast-track, like, they had, it was manned, and it was someone was out of their hands. Marner was going to leave anyway, so he's gone. Yeah, I mean, you can argue how different it's actually going to be. It was basically the big piece being Marner.

Benudos, I was going to ask you about the goaltending. You know, last year, you had the tandem. him. He still needed, what, six or eight starts from the likes of Hildeby, and then even Matt Murray got used for a couple of games. How do you feel about that third goal to any position right now? Do you think they need to get a veteran guy in there? Are you cool with it being Hild de B or it being the Actiumov kid from the Marleys? So, okay, yeah, so Arty will call him the number four, just because I'm not even going to try and pronounce his name. They want to give him a longer run. It sounds like to get some games.

I think what you need to do if you're the Toronto Maple Leafs is create a pathway for Hildebee to either be a player or not. And with Matt Murray there last year, he was taking up, he was soaking up some of the progression of Hildeby and we'll call him Arty. Because with Matt Murray there, we know what he is. I think what's going to happen is they'll start with the two up top, which they're very comfortable with,

and then have Hildeby as a three. And then at the deadline, you grab a 9.5. other guy. You have somebody in the system that has, you know, NHL, pedigree, all of that type of stuff. But I don't think you force-feed somebody into your, you know, Marley's lineup that will get in the way of Hildeby. I think Hildeby had maybe a little bit of a down or inconsistent year last year, and they need to figure out if he can be an everyday guy.

And the only way you can do it is play him a ton in the minors and give him a pathway to try and push somebody out at the NHL level. You weren't able to do that with Murray kicking around and then, you know, the Russian there, Artie. So I think you, for Hill to be, he's got to be their three. And I look at a lot of organizations that are going to start with some of the players that they have incumbent. And then they've got the flexibility. They'll build cap space in that throughout the season. I think of Edmonton.

I think Stan Bowman is going to just kind of sit on the guys that he has, see if some young players can jump in. And if they don't settle in, then you start making moves. And I think that's where the cap flexibility comes in for a guy like Brad Tree Living as well. You can take a look at it and go, okay, let's see what we have here. And then you can continue to add to a really good team. Yeah, I like that idea. Listen, he said it to us on July 1st. He said it to the general public and media that he'd probably prefer players,

like Tree Living, I'm speaking of. If you have the money, maybe can grab guys. They wanted maybe to chat with Marchand, Sam Bennett. There were others. They never made it. So if they don't make it, don't just spend it to spend it. You know, you don't have to spend every penny you have, especially in July and August. Wait it out, see what opens up.

And, you know, you mentioned there's a second wave coming. And I agree in terms of PTOs. And there will be trades. There'll be trades in August. Guys will get moved. I don't know if there'll be blockbusters, but there will be deals. But what I think we're mostly bracing for around the league is signings, right? Like, when does McDavid go down?

Does Caprisov re-sign? Does Kyle Connor resign now that the Jets kind of know what they have? Is he willing to do that? Is he going to play it out? Like that's what I'm curious about noodles Like next year Jack Eichols up There's a lot of big big like superstar players How many of them signed before opening night

You know listen I I follow Twitter as much as you guys You know I saw Bob Stoffer talking out to Edmonton Saying that he was confident that That he felt that there was going to be You know some signings in Edmonton You know it's at home it's guys like they've got They've got some house cleaning to do there still

Get guys that they want their core under terms So, you know, I look at Walman. I look at Echholm. I obviously McDavid, McDavid just controls. Like, he- It's whenever he wants to. Exactly. He makes a phone call and says, okay, knock this out at four or five years or whatever number they come to an agreement on.

Right now, it looks like he's in France with dry-siddle. I think dry-sidels getting married, right? He is, yep. Yeah, that's right. I don't know. You're right. The next wave is going to be some PTOs, but it will be some, I think, probably some massive signings. All right.

I don't know when we have Struddy on next but we'll have him create something new and then you can respond to it in like a month Content creator Stretty Yeah, he is The thing is you guys just bought into I love that story I bought into it completely

I know you have tats I didn't know you get a back tatter We know you have tattoos So it's like Yeah you can have a bad back tattoo Strady's just kind of exposing him He sold it man and he kind of said what it was Dude didn't he say it was a bird or something

Which really makes you feel like All right he's got details on it You know what I mean? I hate birds Yeah, exactly. Why would you get a bird? All right, noodles. I don't know. All right, guys. Stay in touch. We'll see you soon.

Jamie Noodles McClennan checking in. All right, we've got Keegan Matheson coming up, and the Jays, again, continue to push towards the trade deadline. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on the TSNF. From tariffs to trade deals, the markets are changing. Is your portfolio ready for what comes next? For all your questions, you need a money guy. Calvin, the money guy, will help you develop a. a financial plan that includes the right levels of diversity.

The best way to navigate uncertain times. With strategic advice from Kelvin, you can not only protect your investments, you can grow them. Don't wait. Call 416-457 plan or visit ask kelvin.ca. All right, Keegan Mathis in about 10 minutes. Kegan's had the suit and tie on doing a sports center thing all day. The Blue Jays acquiring Shane Bieber, who is coming back from Tommy John,

currently pitching in the minors such a baseball trade guys coming off Tommy John like I'll take that I'll pick that guy up Sy Young winner back in 2020 so we'll catch up a key

and get his take on that and we're just over an hour away from the trade deadline and again it does appear as if the other team like you know the Mets have been active the Phillies have been active the Dodgers have made moves but Seattle has gone all in for the most part Houston continues to

Porsche. They just picked up Correy. It sounds like they're in on Dylan C's and possibly more than that. Yankees have made multiple trades. Bullpen. Bullpen in particular, and their bullpen is pretty stacked right now. So the Js, they have made moves. Like they've brought in Dominguez

and now they brought in Bieber, but you're the pace car right now. Keep going, man. And you know what? I like the thing about this Bieber trade is that, for me anyways, it's like the Jays are thinking big. They're thinking, what happens when we get into October.

How does this make us better for then? Yeah, you'll, I think the team will play well enough that they put themselves in a situation where this will be a useful acquisition. That's what they're looking at. So I like the fact that this is not just playing it safe. They're thinking big. But you do wonder, like the Yankees

maybe beat the Jays and everybody else to the punch by filling out the bullpen. David Bednar, they got this Jake Bird, who's a very serviceable, very serviceable arm. They got a really good bullpen. Guys that are already there. Yeah. And they had the guys already.

So they probably do have the best bullpen in the American League East now. Yep. And, yeah, their rotation is what it is with call out for the year. But that's a big advantage. Yep, yep, absolutely. A freed Rodon can get through four or five innings and turn the ball over. You're in a pretty good spot. Like the Yankees know.

Yeah, they know what's coming, man. They got the play of experience. Judges healthy. They're not going away. Absolutely. Hour two coming up. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN4.

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