OverDrive - OverDrive - July 9, 2025 - Hour 3

Episode Date: July 9, 2025

Join Jim Tatti, Dave Feschuk and Michael DiStefano for Hour 3 on OverDrive! TSN Basketball Analyst Jack Armstrong joins to dive into the Raptors' offseason moves, the expectations for the roster going forward and the replacement process for Masai Ujiri. They also dive into Bo Bichette's value on his next contract, John Schneider's case for the AL Manager of the Year, Ryan Reaves hitting the 1,000-game mark with the Maple Leafs in Yes Guy, No Guy and they also give the FanDuel Best Bets.

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The station that champions Canadian music. Loud, proud, and all yours. No passports required. Just press play. Tap into Made in Canada now on iHeartRadio.ca or the free iHeartRadio app Overdrive hour number three Jim Taddy, JFS, Chuck from the Toronto Star and Elle's brother Mike DiStefano So I guess you know we'll get into the the NBA very shortly. Do we want to do the the golf rakers? The golf and brolio. Yeah the the golf rakers the golf

visual I mean it's viral everybody's seen it so can we show it I guess yeah just video okay so we're not to hear the expletives. That's probably for the best. Yeah. For all our sakes. I mean, clearly there's some sort of a discussion. I think it's about slow play and woo, it launches here. Yeah.

Pretty vicious stuff. I just like, I don't understand why people go to a golf course and get to this point. No. And, and look, I don't know, it's tough to watch realistically. Well, it's, it's brutal. Like this guy's taking a couple, a couple of big shots to the, to the noggin. So the man doing the punching, that is Nick Tarnaski. Yeah. Yeah. Right there. A man who has participated in about 150 NHL fights by my count. That's a big league punch i gotta tell you are very large band of uh... really good uh...

boxing skill you know whatever the silly guys do we don't know this guy's name or is quite a certain all alligators around obviously not in florida now i get upset about slow playoffs brother right but i'm not this upset now i get a going for bob barker over here and usually when it's slow play you focus on the group in front it's usually two groups in front of that that the problem is and that's why the marshal goes around and tells everybody to speed up you up let's get this thing going yeah you know it's just a simple conversation guy drives by like you're a little slower or there's no or

he could say there's two groups in front of you that's causing the problem I'll go speak to them yeah yeah now the one thing you can say about this else brother is when you listen to the audio you get the idea me we weren't there we didn't witness what happened but you can certainly get the idea that alcohol may have been involved in the beverages there may have been more than a couple of yeah that may have been the reason why rational thought did not rule the day here yeah yeah the deem bro Leo you mean yes you know Leo yeah see we've already overused the word since we discovered what it meant we've already

and I mean I told you during the break you have to register that otherwise gone that's where well Mr. yes guys I appreciate the legal advice you know it's gonna be nice to have intellectual property since I don't have intellect. So I'll think about that's one of the perks. I had a question for for you, Dave, specifically, I think that you very qualified to answer this question. I was listening to Maddie cause earlier today on gameplay did his opening thought and he was praising prayer, Shay Gilder's Alexander Alexander and saying basically this might have been the greatest season out of anybody in 2024-25. Like he was the athlete of the year you could argue. Everything he had won he could be athlete of the year and I threw out a name to him and it's

a little bit unfair because you got to go back to the start of last season as well but like Scotty Scheffler I think is someone who might be able to compete there. Yeah, like that guy what he did What's the last you look when we halfway through the golf season this season? But like if you take it back to the start of last year and halfway through this year I mean that guy definitely has the accolades to match up to a shade doesn't he? Seven wins last year the one one the Masters, one the PGA. If you kind of go like the hybrid year like not the calendar year. Yeah like 24-25. His competitive year yeah. No you if you kind of extrapolate that for sure he's in that he's in that realm

where he was getting compared to Tiger Woods basically Saying, we haven't seen this level of dominance in this sport since the days of Tiger Woods. He's not as dominant as Tiger Woods at Tiger's peak, but he's off, he has been awfully dominant. Well, that's similar to, you look at a lot of the records that Shea was encroaching on or breaking, what was the name that we constantly were looking at? Michael Jordan.

A lot of those records, right? He kind of has a similar throwback style of play as Michael Jordan. So I thought it was an interesting parallel when you look at, you know, Scheffler, you know, he's like not that he is the modern day Woods, but it's like, man, there's a guy right now in that sport that is dominant above the rest. And then you look at Shea and he was kind of doing the same thing this year. Jokic, I suppose, is in that realm, but as a golfer winning everything Yeah, but I always say with tiger tiger just elevated every part of the game

Not just not just the competition Wow the business model the paycheck. Yeah. Oh sure Redid the whole business. I think it's an interesting comparison because neither like chef was not tiger and we all know we're not saying Not as Michael. Yeah, it's not Michael. He's not even close And we all know we're not saying not as Michael. Yeah, it's not my thought. He's not even close It's a long way to go to get to that level but in terms of performance I think you're right but in terms of yeah To win the scoring title to win the MVP to win the finals MVP to win a championship this sort of ragged You know to rack up the numbers he put up And with the efficiency and with which he did it to your point without doing you know with the throwback style which does not

involve a heavy over reliance on the three pointer which is nice to see in a league that you know has kind of given itself over to the three pointer far too often in a lot of people's views including mine uh... yeah for all those reasons it's just a incredible year and you want to see more of it you'd love to see another tiger guy a guy who could redo a business model, drive technology forward and obliterate the record book.

Wow, yeah, how often does that come around, right? We were lucky to see it. We were lucky to see it. You had Jack Nicklaus and then you had Tiger. It's those generational talents. They're tough to find, obviously. But speaking of Jack. generational talents their tough tough to find obviously but uh... uh... speaking to jack jack is just good

has just completed his eighteen i'm sure he signed a scorecard and it's all official jack arms rise with us now jack i did you should i did okay we had a good time out here today i'm actually looking at toronto right now i'm uh... i'm at the niger falls country club which is my club and we'll it looks out on lake ontario in the toronto skyline so i'm look at you guys right now so it's all good

but they'll somebody's out there and we have a way to go away what do you make other actors off season today you know it's it's been quiet uh... obviously Well, you know, it's been quiet. Obviously, other than the departure of Masai Ujiri from a personnel perspective, it's been quiet. You know, it was pretty obvious they were going to resign Yaka Pertle. You know, their draft picks were solid, obviously definitely geared towards a defensive

focus and beyond that I mean the biggest the biggest news is you know Masai Ujiri's departure but you know I think when you look at Bobby Webster and Dan Tollesman those guys are you know obviously you know guys that worked day in day out for a long period of time on the side so i don't think it i don't think things changing that and we lost them to help value bill

i think what i think we should we should just by sorry jack where a problem here let's reconnect with him because he's in and out and i don't know exactly what you know what everybody's hearing or what he's hearing so we'll reconnect with him uh and his point is uh kind of a status quo offseason for the raptors which we would agree with uh there was all that talk before messiah left about big name hunting and it's not going to happen apparently right so i don't know what the expectations were because where they were and where they're projected it's okay It's okay and just okay. Yeah a phrase from a former Maple Leaf coach It's hard to get excited about this team because we just we don't know enough about this team

And I guess Jack the question is when you you started we've been we've been hearing some of the US pundits take shots at the Raptors for for building this roster of players that are very highly paid and yet also quite unproven, especially as a group because they just haven't played together much as a group. I mean, when you look at the collection of talent slash payroll that they've accrued here, I mean, how do you look at it? I look at it this year that I think they're going to be a team that makes it the next step. You know, being a kind of a 500 type team, maybe a little bit better play in playoff

type team. I think you had a Brandon Ingram, you know, you had Ingram and I think if you get a quickly healthy, I think Scotty Barnes will be much better. I think all the young players got a ton of playing chemistry. Coach Stalko has a respect of this roster. They play hard for them. They buy into what he's doing. Uh, there's a style of play. There's a personality. I think a big part of it is going to be how Ingram kind of

meshes A guy sometimes the ball will get a little sticky in his hands, but he's a terrific scorer So they're going to have to kind of figure out how to have him mesh with the group to me, you know, there was a lot of discussion with RJ Barrett be back or not, and to me I think he's played really well. I'm a big RJ Barrett fan. I think he's really improved since he's come to Toronto, and I'm curious as... Okay, well we're gonna have to do that again, the reset. Unfortunate that that happens.

A country club cell service. Yeah, it's not enough bars. Apparently not. Oh, there's a good bar at that. I've been to that country club. There's a very good bar. I know, but not enough of the right bar. I think Jack is probably about to go to it once he gets off the line with us, which he

may be off of. We may drive him to that. Yes. I wouldn't blame him. But you know what, you know, the Jacks, like I sort of see it the same way as Jack. I know people have been saying the Raptors are in a really bad spot because they're committed to all these guys, you know, and really haven't got much to show for it to date.

But it does feel like, like let's face it, last year was a tank year by design. They didn't do a particularly good job of it because they didn't get Cooper flag. But Jack, you know, we were talking to you you we you serve and have a hard time hearing you could just sells in and out but you're sort of making a case that this is a a bit of a next step year where they can build into something a little more respectable in the five hundred plus range uh... it's birth

you we we will left off at ingram but could go from there and and why you make the case that this this is a team has a chance to do your say it's going to do well because i think uh... it is a manual quickly health uh... scoring who can shoot the ball stretched a floor on i think they can have options in terms of the second unit. They're gonna have great depth. 11-12 guys who can play. I think during the course of an NBA season to have the

ability to have depth where you're gonna have injuries and sickness and all the other things. They have kind of rebuilt of the organization. So I think they're at a point right now where they should have every right to feel like, now I'm not saying they're in the top four, but that next group, I don't think they should feel any bit intimidated by taking on anyone in that next tier of Eastern Conference teams. So to me I think it's a lot of it's going to come down to getting off to a good start, being healthy and developing that chemistry and kind of getting a guy

like Ingram, quickly as a guy that's going to be huge for them. I'm a little concerned with how the games are being called right now. Bremeter, they're loosening things up a little bit. He's a little slight and he's gonna have to be able to play through contact a little bit more. More of a finesse scoring minded point guard, but nonetheless i think if he is able to adapt his game and and a guy like ingram

i think they could make it a definite significant step jack what's with the strong belief i guess in a player like yak a portal with him within this rap is front office like there are many reports that he was off limits in any kind Durant trade discussions. Like what is it about him that makes him so indispensable for this team? Well, I don't know if he's off limits.

I think when you look at it, if they had a chance to get Kevin Durant and that was gonna be in play, then I think they'd reconsider. I'm sure they knew what the market was for direct and whether they could really get them or not and uh... you know you hold things back obviously when you try to do a deal and then you throw it in when you when you know you might be close to getting it done uh... but a guy like yakapurtle you know he's

looked at this some debate on the back end of the deal whether that's gonna uh... be a good return on debate on the back end of the deal whether that's going to be a good return on investment on the back end, but on the front end, the first few years, I think they'll get great return. The guy's a terrific sound defensive player. You can run a lot of pick and roll with him. You can run a lot of actions with him in the mid-post. He's a good player and he's he's a tough-minded, adorable, team guy, understands

what they're trying to get accomplished so to me I think sometimes you gotta you know you you know when you have a guy that you trust and you like and you believe in and you know you can count on him night in night out maybe you pay him a little bit more because this is a guy that's part of what you're trying to build and he's gonna help. Now is he gonna be your... But when you talk to the third guy, fourth guy, fifth guy, it's all part of putting the team together

and when you have a lot of young players that are on a deal, together and when you have a lot of young players that are on a deal you can you can pay at a little higher number the question is going to be when some of those young guys the Grady Dicks, Jacobo Walters, the guys like that their number has to come up those are the decisions that become difficult. So Jack you know in doing the games last year we were all thrilled everybody had to step up in terms of the young players and a lot of them, I'm not going to say were overplayed, but were elevated to a level that we found out they could actually handle. But now comes the tricky part, is you have to sort of back them down and cut their minutes

down and get a little more specific about what you need out of the young players like Grady Dick and Walter. And I can just go, there's about five or six of these guys how tricky is that? Jim it's a great question because it's a challenge of pro coaching quite frankly because now you got to manage egos and when you're right when you have so many guys in and out of the lineup, everybody's getting a lot of time and a lot of touches, so everybody's happy. Now, if you have a relatively healthy group, you're gonna have some second unit guys

that are playing for second contracts down the road that will have the natural inclination to wanna play more, want to shoot more and develop numbers because the numbers are insane in the NBA right now. So that's a big challenge now for Coach Starco in his third year, being able to manage all that. And again, you're bringing a guy like Ingram in, who you've paid a lot of money to,

you made a big deal to get and again you're hoping quickly is healthy those are the challenges you have right now and look at a guy like RJ Barrett you know where do his shots come from what role does he have is he better suited maybe coming off the bench a little bit or you know who's your five, is it your best five, or your five best? And that's always a challenge in terms of trying to figure that out. But to me, I think their talent base has gotten better.

The question's gonna be, does it all come together? Jack, the Maple Leaf Sports Entertainment folks have hired a search firm, CAA's executive search to go out there and look for the next Raptors president, the successor to Masai Ujiri. You'd be my choice, just so we're clear, Jack. You'd be my guy if I was heading this search. I'm sure you'd probably probably very interested in that job but

you got a great one as it is but it's not you jack uh... any any idea of of who they may have or who they should have to uh... take over the reins from the side well they thank you for the kind comments that nobody's come to me about it and i'm very happy doing what I'm doing. Um, but the checks in the mail, Dave, thank you so much for that. It's got a high commentary. Uh, I'm very happy doing what I'm doing.

Uh, in my opinion, uh, you want to, if you're gonna, if you're gonna go outside, if you're not going to promote, uh, Bobby Webster, the president and Dan Tollesman, the GM, if you're going to do that, that's great. If you're not, then I would say that you wanna get somebody that has a kind of a little different worldview in terms of how you build a team and how things are. I think we've seen a lot of success in our business of late where you have a guy that's been an agent

that's been able to kind of you know because Toronto it's all about not only recruitment it's retention and referral so to me I think that's a big part of it you know you look at the success that a number of guys have had in that role big big picture oriented, or do you bring in someone that's a former executive, you know, a GM, or someone that has run the whole operation? And again, what's the commitment, what's the dollar figure, what's the term, all those things come into play. And it's interesting, you look at what's happened

with the Leafs, they're not going to do a, uh, a president, they're going to stick with, uh, basically replacing Shanahan and, and just going with a GM coach format. So it's a little different. Um, but to me, I think, uh, if you're going to go that way, I think you have to, uh, look and say, okay, I've had the same people here for a long time, maybe I need to get somebody in here

that looks at things a little differently. If you're not gonna do that, then you might as well just promote Bobby Webster to president and have Dan Tolzman as your GM. So I think those are the choices right now for Keith Kelly. And again, you know, when you look at search firms, all they're doing is they're vetting candidates and then presenting a few different options to your board. And then those are the people that have to make the decisions because

they have to be the sports experts, not your search firm. The search firm only presents people. You have to do all the rest of it. Jack, I like what you said there. I mean, clearly under one aspect, if you promote Bobby Webster, you're maintaining, and if you bring somebody else in, it's fresh eyes and a different look, and maybe there's a lot of transition that follows. I guess the only question that comes out of this is because Masai was so present, almost

as a front office type, a really good sort of face of the franchise, you don't normally get that. How do you follow that up for an encore? What is the right way to go? Well, you know, Masai did an amazing job when you look at the big picture. And I think that's, you know, he'll be celebrated, you know, when you look at what happened with the Toronto Blue Jays and their top executives

winning a title in 92 and 93 and how they've been celebrated. I think you'll see that down the road as well from aside deservedly so if you're if you've made a decision to make a change then you know to stay status quo for one year and maybe go from there okay that's understandable and if you're going to bring someone in with a you know fresh eyes, fresh ideas and then an evaluation of the entire thing that's something that's interesting too but you know obviously at

MLSC you no longer have Brian Shanahan, Brendan Shanahan excuse me and Masai Ujiri yet in with the Blue Jays, you have, you know, Mr. Shapiro, who is still the president. So a lot is going to come down to the comfort level with how many peers you want in leadership and how many voices you want and who that voice is that's going to have access to the new ownership group. It's no longer a three-headed monster where you're talking to Bell and Larry Tannenbaum

and Mr. Rogers. Basically, it's gonna come down to that person answering directly to Mr. Rogers and Keith Pelly in terms of how they wanna go about it. So I think a lot of it's going to come down to the comfort level of how they want to structure it and what the term is for all these people. Hey, Jack, yesterday was the 50th anniversary, if you can believe it, of LeBron's famous decision to take his talents to South Beach.

And I was curious how you see the latter days of LeBron's career plan out because he's got the one year remaining on his deal with the Lakers you know his agent recently released a statement talking about how you know he wants it to be clear that LeBron's trying to compete for a championship as if as if the Lakers aren't uh... i'm wondering how do you see lebron james is last act playing out you think he's gonna and the run in l a does he have another move in the cards any any speculation kind of feeling about

where this uh... all-time great will his nb a career well he's an all-time great and and you know the interesting factor is you know you look at what the Kevin Durant transaction was and you look at LeBron, you know both in the last year that contracts and what the value is I think people you know obviously the folks in Houston felt like Durant could make a difference in pushing them forward. Is there a team out there right now that feels like if they add

LeBron James, uh, he can get them over the hump. Now based upon watching him play, even though what is he 40 years old, the guy is still one of the top 15 players on the planet. So I guess you have to decide whether you know, you're all in and you think this guy can do it at 41 42, because I think Houston making the deal they made from a signability perspective and they had no state income tax. I think they feel like KD has another year or two left to make them a contender

for two to three years. So I guess the question you have to have is can LeBron James in those years beyond this year do it for you? And if not, I don't know if you're going to be able to give up Lake is they're going to get that much for him they'll get they'll get a good amount but will they get what they really want or do they just play it out and clear that cap space but nonetheless they're going to have cap issues regardless so to me I think it's a difficult, pro sports is so different now particularly the NBA in terms of I think the action now happens in the February

trade deadline more so than it does in the summer and I think with the luxury tax, the first apron, the second apron, our new TV deal. The landscape has changed dramatically from a standpoint of of how you build teams. And quite frankly, your windows probably three years. And I look at Chet Holmgren getting that new deal in Oklahoma City. And obviously, she goes to Alexander, both guys well-earned, well-deserved. And we'll see how Sam Presti continues to try to put that together and keep that together in a small market That's going to end up facing the first second apron pretty soon It's fascinating how all this is going to play out because it's a new landscape for everybody and a guy like LeBron James

Even though he's one of the all-time greats the system has changed so much compared to what happen when they have we had the decision where you could break your you can have uh... dwayne wade there and yet you bring chris bosh from toronto and lebron james from cleveland uh... those days are over jack thanks very much uh... remember sign your scorecard. Oh, it's signed already. Now I've been holding off. Now I have to go to the 19th hole. Is

that okay? Yeah. By all means, I think an escort is waiting for you. Well, I just got off the course and now I'm going to become the club champ after a struggle on the first 18. Thanks very much jack the well alright guys they gave thanks for the uh... the props there you know if you can be if you could be my representative kind of deal for me to be great

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cars and drivers and of course when you're doing this standard message rates apply, full details at TSN1050.ca. Coming up next, going to talk baseball, Dallas Braeden, former Major League pitcher will join us and you on Overdrive live on YouTube TSN 1050 and TSN 2. Overdrive last half hour for a Wednesday Jim Taddy Dave Festrech from the Toronto Star now his brother Mike DiStefano with you gonna talk baseball very shortly with Dallas Brayton former MLB pitcher host of the baseball's dead podcast and A's analyst. Jay's losing 2-1 today. Not being able to generate any runs. Cast and A's analyst Gays losing to one today

Not being able to generate any runs streak over done at 10. Yeah, so close to franchise another one Yeah, the one second half right? Yeah. Yeah, it's what they did in 2015, right? Yeah, they were able to generate another one They won 11 again. So we'll see the blue J's try and hit 10 one more time It would stink if they like a skid came off the end of this one though Like you've got some very winnable games moving forward. You would just hope that they still end up with a winning record You know coming out of this Chicago series and going into Yeah, even though they've won more games going to the all-star break than they ever have but i agree with you you know what i visit the agent and come out of that losing the syrians would have been

definitely lately it's like that you did that two weeks ago then you went on to lose four of your last five games that won't look good now and you can't take the is likely right like the uh... they just get a raising to good hitting tea well they just say just later ten one beating on the braves yeah in their most recent games though yeah yeah they can hit. They beat the Giants 11-2 the other day. Yeah you're right they've got some pop in their bat and if you used to come in sleeping on them even though you're going to sleepy Sacramento in a well minor league ballpark there's every reason to sort of underestimate

this team. They're near the bottom of the standings for sure. I think you do that at your peril, because they do win every now and then, and you don't want it to be against you. So I was just looking at a yes-guy-no-guy we didn't get to while we're waiting to hook up with Dallas Braden. So here's an interesting one,

and I don't really like the wording on it, but I'm gonna ask it anyway. Bobashev will make 300-plus million on his next contract with the Jays do we know he's coming back no no guy if you've put in the qualifier as with the Blue Jays I'll no guy that yeah I'm not even sure he makes 300 million dollars they baseball is interesting now like he does play a premier position at shortstop but how many teams are gonna view him as a shortstop moving forward?

That's the question. Him and his representatives clearly they've told it's been noted here in Toronto he wants to remain in the middle of the diamond at the shortstop position but going forward you go into free agency how many teams gonna pay that way? I'm not sure. I'm a no-god in that one. Seems a tad high. I i still probably leading towards him still leaving then staying but i'm curious like if they find success this year they go on a deep run

will that change bo's mind is it felt like he was ready to move away at it just it seems like he's ready to go i just think with him market values market value of the jays don't want to pay that the news out on no doubt about it i mean that's a possible look he's kind of flip-flopped right last year it sounded like he wanted to be anywhere but Toronto long-term this year you know you've heard some interviews he's given where he's been he's been saying it's gonna be very tough to leave because

he's always had this connection with Vlad and he's always wanted to see it through to a World Series in Toronto so who knows but look his market value is gonna be high because if you take out last year and just chalk that up to injury which it largely was I mean you look at this guy's this guy's led the MLB in hits in 21 and 19 sorry 2021 and 2022 he was right up there in 23 he's back up there again this year I think in the top five in hits all this guy does hit i mean he knew he knows how to hit right this year is on a on a pretty good power pace of twelve home runs uh... so you know he's back in other words this is the he's back in a

contract here he's going to have suitors cuz your point of the really plays a premium position if not at a premium level defensively and so the blues got to pay, I don't know, 300 million sounds like it might be about,

right, I mean. You think? Well, it could be. Well, how many years is that? That'd be a lot of years. Yeah, but what's the- Like the AAV won't be- It's gonna come in 25 or 30, right?

On AAV? Yeah. Yeah, he probably could command that, so you'd need a 10-year deal at that point to make that happen, 10 years at 30 AAV. I don't know if I'd be interested in that. Well I'm just looking now in baseball. I mean the highest paid short stops are in that range. Well Trey Turner signed his deal and that was a couple years ago and his ticket was 11 million through 11 years at 300 million. Yeah. So that's 27 and a half. I mean most of the guys look at the premium

short stops. Trey make it twenty seven million you know amy swanson twenty eight million lindora with the Mets is making thirty two mookie bets is making twenty six so it's yeah it's a twenty five million dollar that kind of proposition that's where I got to market value I mean you know and and so that's if you're trying to sign somebody and you want a deal I just don't see that happening in major league baseball He's worth this much 25 27 you don't want to pay it. He'll get it somewhere else. I don't think anybody worries about that

It's not like Vlad. He took a hometown discount now stay in Toronto And I wouldn't expect Bo to be doing anything of the sort So I just question if he's if teams view him as a shortstop of the future Like and that's gonna affect the the dollar I don't know that I'd run out and sign him to a 10-year deal. I Might consider five. Yeah, but then he's not going on. He's not getting 300, right? Yeah, but probably whatever the market dictates You know

I think everybody has that a little chart that says what the guy's worth and if you want to pay it you pay it And if you don't you move on. Look, the bottom line is here, there's a lot more money for him to make in the second half of the season. He's got to keep going here. And also elsewhere too, isn't it? Well yeah, it could be. There's need out there, right?

There's always need. Okay, let's continue on with an unplugged yes guy no guy, which means no intro. John Schneider should be in the lead for manager of the year. Ooh, Tony Hinch is going to be up there. I think Hinch should be up there, but. I'm going to say yes, guy. I'm going to say yes, guys, that there was less. Usually it's like when it comes to whether it's baseball, basketball, hockey,

doesn't matter football, it's like it when it comes to whether it's baseball basketball hockey doesn't matter football it's usually alright what coach got the most other team and what team surprise right at the blue jays you could argue have been a much bigger surprise than the detroit tiger side i'm gonna go ahead and say yes guy favor over a jay hinch over a jay hinch i mean look the tigers have been the story the american league obviously there you know, you want to make the case for John Schneider. This was a team in major disarray last year. They finished last. People in this town were writing this team off. We were talking about how the, you know, there was no chemistry in the locker room. We were talking about it was

a team run by spreadsheets and the fallout from the Brio's incident in 2023 had carried into 2024 and really, really hurt the team and hurt the morale and hurt the feeling between the front office and the manager's office and the clubhouse. So there was dysfunction there and for whatever reason, and I think John Schneider is a big reason, they've patched that up and they've, we've we've been hearing what we've been here in a locker room the lines of communication are more clear now they're more open retreating people you know with a human touch rather than a computer's touch

and we're hearing the players saying were were group of brothers were better brothers uh... managers got us up to do with that though he does go from worst to first is always a good storyline If you're looking for an award Well, especially for manager of the year if it was in the NHL be coach of the year to be hands down of the worst The first story the Tigers are 59 wins. Nobody has more than that. So that's got to be worth something. It's worth something It's I mean asterisk is the AL Central but they've you know, there's they've they've got a 15 to 5 record against the Alees

So they're not yeah, 15 to 5 record against the AL East. So they're not just making hay against those guys in small ball central land. Fan Duel's got A.J. Hinch favored heavily in this one at minus 2200. John Schneider plus 750. So the market, the books believe that A.J. Hinch should be running away with this one. But I wonder after the last two weeks here,

what we have seen like will schnider start to really close that gap if it continues into the you know back half of the year and i guess it before i don't believe the tigers have been on any kind of a a swoon so maybe that's in the second half for them could be at some point of a skid that'll even things out so this is kind of a

not really yes i know that but aside bybar we were talking about LeBron playing football and I think I think you would agree with me you could because we've had examples of this football or sorry baseball players playing football basketball is kind of an interesting sort of intriguing thing we've had Michael Jordan played baseball but do you see hockey players I mean you sort of just you're a hockey player I mean I guess some of them have played baseball but you don't really see them playing football, do you? Golf. I see a lot of them golfing a lot. Definitely golf is a... The guy that sits in this chair shot a 64 at the venue of the Canadian...

And some people have the audacity to question the man's integrity. Exactly. Unbelievable. I don't know who that was but yeah I mean they look the hockey guys we always heard about Wayne Gretzky's incredible lacrosse career you know he's been a great lacrosse player there's no money in lacrosse so we didn't stick with it he was you know if you saw him in those you know battle of the athlete the network ours or whatever they call it yeah he

looked like a pretty good sprinter he could do a lot of different things, right? You know Wayne Gretzky was a hell of a multi, you know, so played baseball During his youth. So, you know, I think great athletes generally can play a lot of different sports But the idea of playing, you know more than one, you know the Bo Jackson's of the world the on Sanders of the world is just It's gotten so tough to imagine just given the physical toll it takes to play pro sports these days. Then again, Shohei Otani comes onto the scene and does something that none of us consider possible, be a dominant

pitcher and a dominant hitter, which is essentially playing two sports. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's just two positions. The difference, I guess, would be that it's, oh, I guess it's physically taxing in its own right but it's not like baseball's not a physical sport whereas basketball football hockey very physical sports. Tell that to the arm surgeons who you know repair destroyed pictures are. That's me it's physically different in a different way it's it's it's more of a stress on your body than it is like being physically injured by someone else. Yeah, fair point. Self-inflicted is what you're saying.

Or you can take the fastball to the shoulder or the noggin or the spleen. You're right. Yeah, no, look, it's a different deal. You're right. I do think the guys who keep saying that basketball players can play football, they can, but there's a reason they don't want to, right? Like, like a, shorter careers and, but B, like you have to be a special human being to want to take that beating, to sign up to go over the middle and say, yeah, I'm going to get hit and I know it and I'm still going to do it because you know

how the NBA is. I mean, you touch a guy now, you know, everything's a flagrant. And you know, it's not what it was in terms of toughness, right? And now that the money's so big, the players are even more and more sensitive to the idea that you're gonna deign to foul them hard, right? The hard foul basically does not exist anymore.

So. If you wanna define. I don't love the argument that that that you would have been a good football player for your basketball player because you gotta have that dog in you as they say yet to be that kind of player and to be a football player and i just don't think a lot of basketball players have so we'll get to a yes guy no guy here after i read this ryan reeves

on his nl future in playing with the lease i still want to play in eighty three games away from 1000 I'd love to hold on for another two years hit that mark and ride into the sunset Yes guy no guy. He does that with the Leafs. Oh no guy with the Leafs. That's that's a that's an easy no guy I'm not sure he plays another game with the Maple Leafs, but 83 is kind of far away. If he was like 15, 16 games I could see that being you know that could that could be a realistic goal but he spent most of last year in the minors. I don't remember if he reported

but he definitely was like on the AHL. Under the new CBA you have to if you're sent down you have to play a game. And he, see what he does. Does he report? Or does he decide to hang him up? Do they find a trade partner for him? Does somebody want to give him an opportunity? I'm not sure. But Ryan Reeves, look, you know, he had a good career.

He had a good career, but I think it's probably the end of the road for him. Yeah, I mean, it's, I guess there's a scenario where he could find a home in the NHL on a team that is in need, but it's hard to fathom. He did play a few games with the Marlies last year. But you look at it, he went from playing 49 games in his first year in Toronto, 23-24, to 35 games last year. Didn't even score a goal last year.

I mean, had two assists. Just really didn't contribute a goal last year I mean had to assist just really didn't contribute enough on the offensive side of the puck to justify his presence right and then the skating is another issue we look he 83 games yeah the number yeah I mean that's really two seasons worth to see it have to be yeah even if he stayed healthy played a single game he still would have to come back and get a contract from somebody to come back. That's right. One game.

One year left with the Leafs. I mean I guess. Oh yeah I see what you mean. Right. But the counter, you know the counter argue with a guy like this is. Really? You know he's a fifth round pick. The odds of a fifth round pick playing a thousand games.

So he's nine hundred and whatever he's at. He needs eighty eight games? Even more or less likely. That's right. I mean he's defied the odds before right so yeah he's got 912 by my count yeah okay so 88 games I'm just reading what he actually said so yeah maybe his math is off or maybe maybe the official records off right now and he knows something that we don't but sometimes

that is then it is two years yeah it's probably two years right given his recent participation he's played 80 games before but not since you know 2019 when's the last time he played more than 40 games I mean yeah we played a combined 73 with the with the Rangers and and Golden Knights in 21 22 so 22 sorry 22 23 22 23 so four years from now that's been a while and he played you know played good career Ryan raised a great career you know and for considering that the enforcer had been phased out for a little bit but it's making a resurgence will find out

but like he found a way to stay in the game that regard against you at that house and that you know if the knowledge that he found a way found away and and and nine twelve that's a good number if he doesn't play another game in the n.h.l. he can be should be happy and proud that he made a found a way to play 912 and stay as long as he did. I think the one of the intriguing things to track in the new CBA when it hits a

year from now is if you have to send a guy down, you can't do a paper farm anymore. The guy has to play a game in the American hockey league. I wonder how that changes having that sort of floating body around. Of course, the gap will be higher, but well, how much you think that angers a guy like Brandon Pridhamham who was like a king at finding a couple extra bucks in the CBA but his little paper moves that he would do on a weekly basis. Like someone like that I find. I'd love to pick their brain on how's this gonna change how you do things.

It's called find another loophole. Yeah. That's what those guys do. Those capologists are really good at it. Yeah. So what you're saying here is I can actually do this. I mean I'm sure they bounce all that stuff off the league capologists to make it official. They'll figure it out. Oh without a doubt. Yeah so they'll go through it all. They'll get that new book and just rip right through it and find something else to do. Yeah you figure it. I mean look that new

CBA doesn't come into effect just yet. So September 20, 20 cents. So we got some time. They've got some time to figure it out. And yeah, Brian Reeves had a great career. I mean, there's but there's a reason they brought in Michael Pizzetta, right? That is making 800000 Ryan Reeves at one point three five million. I mean, they kind of both play the same role. You can do the math on that.

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Yeah. I'm just going with the money here boys. It's no offense to the Blue Jays who got their win streak snapped today by the White Sox, but they're rolling on to the athletics. Gotta build up that bankroll to buy more cologne. That's right. Well, especially the price of the bottle he told us, 600 bucks. Oh, it wasn't the bottle I had in the bag today, boys.

No, of course not. I can bring it in to show you guys. You keep it in a vault or what? No need to. It's right on my shelf at home. It's just looking at me all the time. Sorry to hear that. All good.

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