OverDrive - OverDrive - June 10, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! Former Oilers General Manager, Head Coach and Stanley Cup Champion Kevin Lowe on the Oilers' mentality after a defeat in the Stanley Cup Final, Edmonton's undisciplined performance against Florida and the Stanley Cup experience. Hayes and Noodles lists the top playoff performers in the last decade in the OverDrive Hut. They go around the sports world in the latest edition of Confirm or Deny and Giannis Antetokounmpo not seeking a trade from the Bucks.

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but it does come up with big hits but he's so comfortable you know home run last idea that big hit the tent last night uh... you know jay's on fire like that there's no other way to put it the blue jay's are absolutely on fire they had full control that game in rodriguez got hit and they tie it up in the night was just an unreal ballgame last night in the Jays

They're on a heater. They're back in action tonight So more on that a little bit later this hour Maybe confirm with the Nyan with whether or not Alejandro Kirk is gonna be an all-star this year Feel like there's real chance that's gonna happen for the second time. Yes. Yeah. Well the first year He really broke out. He was an all-star member. We had that OPS up over 800 He was unreal. Yeah, I'd like five guys at the all-star game that year. They did and it's funny how that's changed right you go on a heater remember two months ago it was like maybe Hoffman would go and that's it no one else is in contention and now all of

a sudden there's some chatter out there that maybe a couple other Blue Jays could be in the hunt including Alejandro Kirk. So a big ball game for him last night. Very clutch, very clutch a clutch performer Alejandro Kirk. He'd go in my hut right now if I'm putting forth great Toronto sports storylines Al Kirk is right at the forefront. Need a mini hut, tiny little hut for him. Yes well did you see him trying to go from first to home last night? Like they stopped them at third like I feel like whoever the third base coach is when they when he sees Kirk if the ball is in play you just tell your hand stop like just don't even think about it I think the third base coach has a mandate

you ever wheel him home you're fired yes no matter where the ball is I don't care where it is yeah I don't care you know ground rule double where he gets home plate. No, we're not accepting that We're gonna hold him at third. We're gonna hold him. He will be staying here I don't care what happens Alejandro Kirk never has the green light when he's on the base pads So but when he's at the plate, he certainly does many style then he looks great And it was a great ballgame and Jays are on fire right now So Danny green coming up later this afternoon as well Kevin low in a few moments Oh you announced your hut you had six guys in a five-man hut kind of like those sour keys

Like you yeah, you're trying to really in the bag there get as many clutch players in there I only had I had six instead of five I had one a one B and Sam Bennett deserves a lot of love like he does right? He deserves a lot of love for the o-dogs top player performers since the 2016 Stanley Cup playoffs So we're talking about the last ten years. Yeah, there it is a lot of great names a Lot of clutch players a lot of big performers. Yeah Yeah, Noodle's, you go and Hayes, I want yours before the end of the hour because I want that posted to see who has the better one before the end of the show. All right.

No problem. All right. I mean, a lot of the same names for me. Yeah. I didn't, in no particular order. I just went Sidney Crosby, which I think Sidney Crosby has to be there. You know, he's just a is a winner he's a guy who

even at thirty what is the seven or eight is still a top-tier player like ten years nine and ten years ago he won back-to-back cons might sackless start this time one yeah so uh... i went with cross be i went with bob ross key who is uh... you know it wasn't that long ago Florida was trying to

give his contract away and it was Alex Lyon who got them in the playoffs. But since then it's been unbelievable. And I think Bob, through the other guy, I went with two goalies. So Vasilevsky was the other one because I, you know, it wasn't long ago he was John Wick scaring the hell out of everybody. And then I went with McDavid and Dry Cytle. Dry Cytle playing hurt, the high ankle sprain, this guy's played in broken hand and ribs last year.

Like, this guy doesn't matter. Availability, he does it and he still produces, regardless of the circumstance. And McDavid is just, you know, winning the Con Smythe last year, he was a a man possessed I don't think his team was good enough to win last year I don't and I thought he dragged them to it and and you know Stuart Skinner settled in all that type of stuff but I had McDavid and I'm gonna throw one other guy in there if you want if I can would be honorable mention honorable mention would be Kuturov because I feel like he should be I I missed this though guys. I thought he won the cons might there was headman It was headman that won. I mean, let me just say this about both of our lists shame on us because there is a

Massive omission. I that man's name is Braden point Yeah, not forget what that man did every time the Tampa Bay Lightning needed a big goal He was the guy that scored it and like I just said I thought Kuturov won the cons might that your Victor Hedman got it I were oh, maybe I'm meeting him as well. You're right cuz Vasilevsky got a one-year and then headman Yeah, I had a real difficult time with mine because of that because I think you could headman headman should be in this you know and I think Braden point that first playoff run in particular I believe in the bubble that guy all of them. Yeah. All of them for sure. He's all scored. He's you know he's been great for 10 years in the playoffs is

Brad Marchand. Yes. Marchand's fifth in points I believe in playoff points in the last 10 years I believe. Like that's how good he's been and that's how much he's been the Bruins went every single year They went to a cup final in 19 You know, they go there every single year and Rantin is another guy. I thought of putting in because here's a crazy one though Corey Perry spent to what five finals in the very six years. Yeah, like again, he's not dragging the team there, but he's there man and he's contributing. Joe Pavelski man, remember Big Cool Joe? Joe Pavelski scored some monster playoff goals.

Yeah, so those are a lot of names that are honorable mentions. I'll get to my list a little bit later because there's a lot of a lot of i'll get to my list a little bit later because there's a lot of cross i know what you have to use snake some of the great points we just made they're gonna enter your list in a justice now i have just one on the fly yeah i know bray i know for a fact brayton points gonna go on your list the final time to say that i have a lot of you didn't i thought i'd say i forgot i got a little late

i've got about brayton point at these not my five You didn't. I forgot about Braiden Point. He's not in my five. And I have a five pack. I don't have six. I don't have one B's and two C's. I know. I added in.

Three F's and all that. I have a five pack. Next time we got to bring this up, I mean, our next guest, I played the playoffs against him. I believe he scored a playoff goal against me. Is that right? When he was with the New York Rangers in a six nothing win by the Rangers you were with the Islanders was that? I was with the well we they beat us in four. We actually lost in three. It was that bad They beat us or game sweep for game sweep. It was ugly and I do believe Kevin got me in

Game two it was okay started. Well here he is. Long time NHL, he's won a million Stanley Cups seemingly and he scored on noodles in the playoffs. There's Kevin Lowe. Do you remember that goal, Kevin? I don't actually, but I remember the series very well, Jamie, it must have been the sixth goal. It couldn't have been an important one if I scored it. Everybody was scoring, it was point night. Every night

it felt like for your team. You guys were so good. You guys just dominated pretty much right to the cup. Yeah, it was a very veteran team. You know, the Rangers really, they were swinging for the fences bringing in, you know, a lot of ex-oilers. And we weren't a young team. Jay Wells and myself and Doug Litster played the back end and we were all in our mid thirties. But it just spoke to how good we were up front and of course in nets with Mike Richter. A long time ago, good memory.

Hopefully it'll be another good memory for One of my teams in the coming week or so a little better than last night anyways What did you make a last night Kevin? It was a bit of it was just uncharacteristic And we were talking about the timing of it and you of all people have been been to so many finals Understand that you just can't have a throwaway game when you get to the end of the line here. And that's exactly what last night was. It was a gift and it was a throwaway and all aspects of the game was a mess. You had no question.

Dog's Breakfast, you know, it can happen. It happened to us before. We lost in the Stanley Cup finals 6-1 and it was, appeared to be, you know, one side of the way the game last night was. But I think there's a couple things, you know, although it was a six-one game, the game is always closer than the score shows. You know, I really thought, I mean,

the first goal was a disaster, complete defensive disaster. Everyone's scrambling around, nobody taking anyone. And, but that came just after when I thought Ekblad deserved a penalty on McDavid. And you can't blame it on the refs, but so be it, they score a goal. And then the lack of discipline really started to show. And you can't take penalties. Florida, they're feeling it right now. You can't take penalties. I mean, Florida, they're feeling it right now. You can't take penalties anyhow,

but when a team is feeling it on the power play like they are, and the worst part about taking penalties is that you're not on the offense, you're defending. So, at least in the first period, which just gives a team like Florida just all the power in the world. And Verheggie's goal was a beautiful shot.

I mean, he was just under the pipe and stuff. So it was going their way. They fought back. Of course, the ageless one, Corey got a goal for us and it was close. And then another seeing eye shot by Sam Reithart, who's been quiet in the series. And that was a beautiful shot. And then, you know, the game really broke open when Bennett ran over Pud Coles in and then the kid got up, showed all kinds of courage, tried to make a play, an offensive play. Probably shouldn't because he's probably

knocked Colder in a cucumber there. But he still, in fairness to him, he tries to make an offensive play, probably shouldn't because he's probably not colder than a cucumber there. But he still, in fairness to him, he tries to make a play because they're down 3-1. Normally if the score wasn't that way, he would have dumped it in and then Bennett's off to the races. And man, what a series he's having. No kidding. He's been unreal.

With Kevin Lowen, you referenced that you've been in the position the Oilers were in, losing 6-1 in the position of the oil is for and losing six one in the cup final game uh... i'm curious you know how you settled your nerves after that how you push beyond it and you settled in for game four because you know this is as big as it gets for edmonton on thursday night what kind of advice based on your own experience would you give this team to make sure

they're prepared for thursday well uh... i, be ready. I mean, when you... That sounds crazy, but be ready means, you know, they've got to be more disciplined. They can't be taking penalties. They've got to have their A game in all aspects. They've got to go in there. It's going to be a hornet's nest.

I mean, Florida's smelling blood right now, and they get them down 3-1. That's tough to come back, although they almost did it last year. But they've got to have a good first period like they have had in the other series where they've really come out and they've been the better team. They've been getting the scoring chances. They've been playing in the other team's end and that gives the whole team confidence, okay, we're in this one. Maybe gets the Panthers a little bit on their heels. Maybe they gotta start taking some, the Panthers take penalties.

And that's a bit of a metamorphosis of a win in the Stanley Cup playoffs on the road. Kevin, I'm sure most of the Oilers fan base wants to strangle Sam Bennett right now, but I don't think anyone can disagree how well he's playing. He's just a fantastic talent come playoff time. Does he remind you of anybody from back in the day, just a guy that come playoff time,

he would elevate and he'd be a pain in the ass and he would always be right in the mix contributing in all areas of the game? Yeah, for sure. He's playing unbelievable. Nice time to be having a great run like he's having, but he's been good for a couple of years. Ever since he left Alberta, thank goodness he's not around here anymore. I remember when the Flames drafted him, I thought, oh, we're going to have to deal with

that kid for 10 or 15 years, because I admired him. I admired the way he played and his game is really coming. The Four Nations goal was a huge goal to give Canada a chance. But a little bit of Rafi Torres. Rafi was not scoring like Sam Bennett is scoring, but he had some huge hits in the playoffs for us in the 06 run. He put McCallick out. I mean, he could skate, really skate, and the way Bennett does, you know, skate fast

and launch into guys. And you know, yeah, I'd love to have him on our team, but he's having a great series. And you know, interestingly enough, really him and Marchant are doing all the scoring I mean the you know Reinhardt was solid to the other night and and you know a lot of the other guys were silent but but I think the you know Connor what he said today I mean it's it's go time for them in game four he's announced it so I suspect they'll be ready to play so Kevin you know at the end of the the, we'll call it the last 10 minutes of the game, it kind of got a little bit old school where they were put some frustration, like Chris Knobloch

said boys being boys, I kind of chuckled at that one. What do you make of that? Is it, you're always trying to take a piece of your opponent in the finals or deep into the playoffs? Is it something that can rally the guys a little bit or is it just frustrations you're trying to get it out? Well, the games change. In our day it was, yeah, you get your pound of flesh for sure.

The score, you know, gets out. I mean, you know, you see ankles, the ankles you know doesn't matter as long as you don't get suspended but it sends it it sends a message for sure you know it's the right time to do it and I don't know I mean I don't think it's gonna necessarily carry over into game four but I think it probably released some frustration for the Oilers and and but they know they can't play that way. I mean, they've got to play a high tempo game and finish the checks the way they have in

the previous series and force Florida into taking penalties, not the opposite. With Kevin Lowe, and you mentioned what McDavid said know that maybe they haven't had their best stuff but it's coming you know and it's it's got to be there obviously on on Thursday game four you know we referenced the Ekblad hit where he got him there coming through the middle of the ice and he didn't have his best stuff you know and Dry Subtle didn't have his best stuff do you do you think that's what Florida is doing to them or do you think that that was just like last night? They just didn't have their stuff and What would you give us a projection on what you think McDavid and dry subtle a play like game four?

Well It was a good hit by eclad I mean he Connor doesn't get actually he got hit in game two on the power play by eclad I think carrying it in the zone and you hit in game two on the power play by Echblad, I think, carrying it in the zone. And you almost never see that on the power play. So I mean, Florida's defense is playing great. I mean, they, Jones has probably played his best hockey. He's been a big addition and you know, they're, they're, they're tall and rangey.

I mean, Schmidt is, guy is, I don't know how old he is, but he's just playing unbelievable. Like a guy who was sort of basically a five, six defenseman has been really noticeable in this series. And so, that's making it a lot tougher on the other forwards, but they got to find a getaway. They could really grind, not so much Conor's line. Leon's line can get it in and grind and cycle Connors usually are you know a rush type of player but the other the

other lines got to get in there and soften them up a bit and again make them playing their in a bit so it you know it get them defending get them on their heels so it opens up for for guy like Mcgavid to be able to make those you know those high-speed rushes and score off the rush. Well it is go time Thursday night game four it's going to be a fun one. Last night was disappointing but it's it's only 2-1 in the series a lot of hockey left. Great catching up with you as always Kevin enjoy the rest of the series and we'll do it again soon. Okay guys thanks. There he is Kevin Lowe. He's won again a lot lot of Stanley cups in his career six Stanley cups between the oilers and the Rangers Joining us here on the maple Toyota hotline drove drive the built-in Canada fuel-efficient fun to drive to Toyota RAV4 gas or hybrid

Models available visit maple Toyota comm Yeah, listen, there's nothing the oilers could do about last night You know, you just got to reset and get after it, but it is put up or shut up time and those are always the most fun and entertaining platforms, you know, for a big athlete, especially who we're talking about. It's make David in particular, but McDavid and dry subtle as a two pack, like backs up against the wall down to one in Florida, building's going to be rocking. Go out there and you got to have the game of your life.

You know, like you really, you got it. You gotta just have an unbelievable game. And it's not only them, but they gotta drive the bus. I'll tell you what, Hazy, your boy, Rafi Torres, he might be driving around Coppenwood with no gear on after that compliment. That's a pretty big compliment for Rafi. I thought he was gonna say Mark Messier.

He said, Rafi Torres. Yeah, I was thinking Dale Hunter or something like that If you look at it though, I mean if you look at Bennett's playoff There's been some injuries attached to some of the stuff around him Obviously and you know Raffy had that right that kind of reckless abandon, you know He had a accidentally on purpose fall here and all of that and like that it is a pretty good comparison Rappi's just a bigger body like that's the one thing Bennett is wiry like he's not this 6-4

220 if you see him, you know on the on the street. He's he's not a Commanding physical presence. He plays like that plays a lot bigger than he is But he can get you because he can skate. He's got a great anticipation and he's got a mean streak. Like that's, and he can fight, like he can, he's a tough, tough guy. But like he, he more has the Wendell type of Doug Gilmore build. Like he's not a massive, massive guy, but he plays like it. Like he plays like he's 240 yeah that's exactly nice been right in the middle of everything man yeah he has been he's been outstanding in this Florida Panthers team has been as well

right you want me to fire out my five pack I want it I know that that's why that interview did not go that long it was great so horned up to not in the least we got confirmed coming out we got MJ coming up we got a lot by your way I I just know that Braden point was not a part of this and I am not added point Point I'm telling you I had Honorable mention honorable mention at ranting and headman Pavel ski point Barkov could Chuck Marshand Bennett Those were other names on your list. Well Okay, no particular order open the door to the hut the most clutch playoff performers in the last decade This is what let me go backwards

I have Kuturov on this list Kuturov is in the hut like Nikita Kuturov even though he doesn't want to smite you're right That guy he didn't he didn't play all season and showed up and put up a Ridiculous castings disgusting and every playoff he does it it it's not only about the three times going to a cup final It's every single time it seems like Kuturov especially when he was in the zone I had to have him there now. I kind of regret not putting headman in a head. Yeah I do regret not having headman above in front of Kucherov, but I had already submitted my list, so I wasn't gonna change it. I'm a man of integrity and honor.

I wasn't gonna do that, but I actually kinda think that's a misstep, that Headman playing like 30 minutes a night probably should have been in ahead of Kucherov. I have Sergey Bobrovsky in the hut. You're the starting goalie of a team that goes to three straight cup finals in a decade You have to be in there like you you have to be and that's why I also have Andre Vasilevsky

I've both goalies just like you noodles. Yeah, you have to those are the two predominant Goaltending performances of the last decade in the playoffs and honestly, I don't think there's anyone even close like the two of them have basically Punched their ticket into the Hall of Fame first ballot based on what's happened in the last decade Just playing every single night never taking a night off ever never a game time decision not once And you see Bobroski you've seen with his gear off. He's like 160 pounds. Yes, exactly. He's so skinny and frail but he's

in every single night. Every single night. So I got Bob Anbasilevski. I have Sidney Crosby in the hut. Now again in the last four years they haven't been in the playoffs. Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. The first two years of this 10 year run he won back to back cons might and then they went to the playoffs the year after that, I think got into the second round, he was great. I have, you have two cons mice in a 10 year window, you have to be in the hut. All right.

For sure. Now this is where I had difficulty. This is where you get stupid. I had to say one, I had to pick one of the other. Now a big, I was honestly gonna say, you have to have a Stanley Cup to be in my heart. was gonna be my thought I thought about that element too. Like if you haven't won should you be in the hut? I don't know. I think that's a reasonable conversation to have it's kind of like the Hall of Fame winning helps get you in there Yeah, this is our Hall of Fame and that's why again Headman makes sense. Rantanen's got a cup points got two

You know like Matthew Kachuk, Bennett, like these guys have won and maybe they should have been in there. I just, I guess just quickly, were any of those guys up like in the Kahn Smythe conversation? Like was Rantanen ever? I don't know. Well, Headman literally won one. No, I understand that. Rantanen didn't because Macar was such a rock star. Macar's another name. Here's another, here's a guy, only got a win with multiple teams, Petrangelo. Won in 19 and in 23. Good one. Petro maybe should have been

an honorable mention for the HUD. Add him to my list, Petro. Okay. Honorable mention. This is like the golf picks all of a sudden. Oh I know, now we're gonna, everyone's gonna have 15 guys. Before you know it Mitch Marner's gonna be in the HUD.

Yeah. Exactly. I have Leon dry subtle is my fifth Wow final key to the hut, which means Connor McDavid is not in mine, dude I'm sorry. I think you just flushed your list down the toilet. I just is both of you guys I had a different time David in my life Okay You had both of you did because you just got listen you just say I've got to put him in. When this poll goes up, you just put yourself in last place with no McJesus.

I have said for multiple years now, I believe Leon Drysettle is the most clutch big game player in the league. I've said it many times on this show. That's not to say McDavid's not. I had a difficult time between the two. I obviously did i'd one thing i just like the goalies we talked about the position but to have them one two how can you not have a slice just think you went too far with that it's an

ask us to noodles and you try to do something about it that is in the only reason a team goes to three straight cup finals is because of the goalie that they are all ultimately it's the only reason it's goes to three straight cup finals is because of the goalie. Ultimately it's the only reason it's possible. It's not possible if you have flaky goaltending at any point and they never were flaky. They'd be flaky for games here or there. Three straight cup finals, you have to have the goalies in there.

You have to. And the reason I have Dry Settle ahead of McDavid is you look at their point, they both played 93 playoff games in the last 10 years. McDavid, I believe has 11 more points than Dry Settle, only 11. That was a bit surprising. Dry Settle, I believe has eight more goals than him. He does. So he scores more goals. He scores bigger goals. He plays hurt. Also at the start of this window, remember when they got to the conference final that first time and McDavid was banged up and he wasn't playing,

it was Dry Settle that was driving them there. That was back in 17, I think it was. That was him. He was the best player, absolutely the best player on that run, not McDavid. And Dry Settle, you know, he plays on the, with lesser wingers and like I got to put dry subtle ahead of him I got it for clutch over the last ten years I got dry subtle ahead of McDavid there's my hot five pack I add them both but I agree with you a dry subtle even playing hurt like that high ankle sprain we all watched it happen against LA. Right. Every other player in the league, maybe there's a couple, wouldn't have been able to play.

He played the rest of the playoffs with that. Plutch man. Stones, Courage. He's big. He takes on everything. I love him. I love McDavid. It's not that I don't love McDavid.

I mean clearly. It's just, well add him to your list then if you really feel like it. No, because there's only five. I'm not like you two. I don't just, hey, willy nilly, I mean clearly. It's just, well add him to your list then if you really feel like it. No, because there's only five. I'm not like you two. I don't just, hey, willy-nilly, everyone gets one. I just feel like it should have been a 10-pack. Like, are there any defensemen on this list? Well, that's why this is so stupid, that we don't have Headman in there.

I think Patrangelo and McCarr absolutely put their hands up. It's all about how you look at things. Everyone has their own vision here. Nothing's wrong. There's all about how you look at things. Everyone has their own vision here. Nothing's wrong. There's no wrong answer. I'll tell you what we could do by the end of the show to really spice this up is do the top five least clutch players in the last 10 years. If you really want to get cooking. Yeah, let's not do that. You really want to start sending people off into a complete. The fact that we have to act like this is pretty sad because we know the reason. Well, everyone knows the leaf.

There's going to be leaf players scattered on that list. I mean, we're not going to do that. Let's not do that. All you're going to do is upset some people. We'll do it on July 2nd, maybe. Maybe on July 2nd, we'll come up with that list. We'll see what happens. Oh, because one of those players might not be a leaf anymore so that you could take a shot at him

I'm out of town possibly I don't do that and I wouldn't do that alright confirmed with an eye coming up and We got Danny green in about an hour Mike Johnson coming up as well overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 2 Are you age 16 to 30 and ready to make a real impact? The Youth Thrive program funded by Canada Service Corps and delivered by the Career Foundation is your chance to develop leadership skills, connect with

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It's been my honor and a privilege to serve as the General Manager of the Toronto May Police Hockey Club. It's time for Confirm or Deny. Do you regret giving all those gentlemen the no trades or no movement clauses? I can neither confirm or deny that. I can't confirm or deny that. I can't confirm or deny that. All right, I can confirm that a massive omission was made, but I don't think it was necessarily in the last decade. By all of us?

Well, hold on a second. Now, I think to be fair to us, it's the last decade. Now, if it was the last 15 years, Malkin and your boy our boy Mr. Gabe 7 Justin Williams would be knocking on the door not ten years though I you're right. That's what caught me off cuz Nate just sent me a message saying man. What about mr. Gabe 7 are you guys nuts and I panicked I was like, you know what you're right, but it's not in the last decade He was really clutch One in what 12 and 14 didn't write and that's not ten years. No, did he know I was my mistake We should have we should have did since 2000 and then we would have had some really and he got

Justin Williams in there Willie. There's a lot of guys drew and outy Kopitar oh, yeah, all the Chicago team caves key. Oh That's when you start getting crazy you get post post basically Post lockout man, there'd be a million different guys that would be knocking down the door to the hut. Yeah All right. Anyway, my bad shouldn't have even brought it up because it wasn't an omission. We're fine. We're good Yeah, all right confirmed or denied to of Marchand Bennett's and or ekblad will leave the Panthers in free agency. At least two of those three guys will be leaving the Panthers in free agency. I'm going to confirm it because I just talked about an hour ago them getting together and

saying guys let's keep the band back together. But you go back to back cup. I think there's a part of you that says, that's off the list, and I want to cash in. And if they want to cash in, I don't know if Florida can do it. And I, as soon as one of, either one of, I forget which one of you said that, but it just makes sense. Like you go back to back, like unless they're literally going out for beers saying, we got

to stay together for the three feet. And do you also want to stay together for the downturn of it like we saw with Tampa it's like you did it and then there's kind of some weird stuff that happens after where you think you're still really good but you're actually probably not whether your regular season tells that to you or not so do you really want to be a part of it? I'm going to confirm this. I'm denying it. I think two of the three stay. And I think it's, I think Marshann leaves and I think Bennett and Echblad stay. Echblad's been saying all along, Florida is the only place he wants to be. So Florida, the Panthers will say, okay, prove it to us. You know,

take the deal that we're, you know, fine not gonna pay him twelve dollars like he'll do you think that number is for him it's not at least start with an eight for craig eight times eight you know something like that and i think same thing for bennett like that those are those are really good numbers for that's a lot of money for a lot of players like and and think about it. Again, it's not my money and it's not my career.

So I shouldn't be like if Sam Bennett is going to get 10 somewhere else on a seven-year deal. But if you can get another year, that adds in a big thing. You take some money off. I know the tax-free thing. Nobody talks about Tennessee. Well, go to Nashville then. There's tax-free there. There's other tax tax free thing. Nobody talks about Tennessee. We'll go to Nashville then there's tax free there You know, there's there's other tax free states. Texas has one too. It just in the end

I think florida is building a program a lot like tampa did like we're gonna pay our guys But we're not going to go overboard. Do you want to be a part of this program? This is where you fall into line and and these guys are going to make a lot of money I I think two of the three stay personally. Yeah, I will confirm it as well. I'm not convinced Marchand is done down there either. That's true. Because they seemingly have unlimited amounts of money. Now, where it will be interesting is if these guys, if Bill Zito and company say, we want to keep you, we'll give you the money,

but we don't want to give you the term. I'm not convinced they'll give Benet eight years, or Echblad eight years. They may say, listen, we love you, we'll give you five at eight million, because that's when it's gonna hit, you're right, O, it feels like they're unstoppable right now, and they're invincible. It just doesn't, that's not life,'s not pro sports no like the wheels fall off yeah it goes it goes

away yes and at some point that'll happen and if you wake up in two years and you and you're like man we're not who we once were and we've got eight guys on term for the next five years with maybe that's a part of Florida's master plan where they're like, we want to keep evolving here and get younger. And Lundell is going to be our second line centerman and we want it that way because we want to just keep trying to evolve here. Well and understand the cap's going up.

So Ekblad at 29 years old on an eight- year deal at 34, you'll still be able to trade him with term left on the deal. Unless he gets the no move, no trade. Like that's the thing, Noodle. I hear what you're saying and they might just make that awkward. But if these guys are like, I'll give you a deal,

but understand, I'm never leaving. Like that's, if you're getting your deal, and they may kick it down the road and say, that's fine. That might be smart. You know, if you pick off another one and It just if you commit to everybody long term that's you know, it takes away any flexibility in the future I agree I just think there's I think there's so much more flexibility now as the cap going up and these are good players that aren't

This isn't 37 year old players like March and it's different March and pushing for a four-year deal at 37 somebody's gonna give it to him but you have to be mindful that you know listen Corey Perry at 40 still chugging and producing but he's making a million dollars exactly but it's also where you play in and who you play with all of that type of stuff but March and is in great shape and he is a guy he's a lot different than bennett and act like because those guys are still in their twenties right it's already eight-year deal would not be

a problem for an organization for the the panthers if they were stretching out and trying to get the dollar down a little bit like yet that's that's term is what you're trying to do is bring the AVV down so we kind of established this rapid-fire conformity denied game four is a must-win for the Oilers absolutely mandatory must win especially if they get pumped again then you're just like don't even go back to Alberta I I you you said Edmonton was gonna win this in five three days ago like

He's the floating bag you just everywhere it goes like credibility like I Literally said Edmonton was gonna Error and my quote was the oilers are gonna spank them. That's what I said Yeah, I said I had a really good vibe about the oil. I had no idea they were going to go out there and play like donkeys like they did last night. I didn't see that coming. And my guy Chuck Knobloch, he's probably more disappointed than I am. Yeah, but it's one game.

I know. That's why I want them to make me look better than I look right now because I am getting just absolutely crushed on Twitter everyone was like all the Oilers are gonna spank them. Are you're an idiot? I'm just like yeah, it was a mistake right now So right now mistake listen you weren't a you were alone in the spanking, but I like the oilers coming in I like them a lot after game one because let's not forget they were losing 3-1 going in To 3-2 going into the third or 3-1 going into the third 3-1 Yeah, and like we know all the stats Florida never throws that away. They get to overtime they win

Perry scores with you know under 30 seconds to go to push it to OT and game 2 you can play the You know analysis game both ways, but it could be 3-0 in Florida right now. Yeah, I'm going to confirm this though, must win. You have to win Thursday night. You put yourself in that spot. You've got to tie the series up. You had to get a split in Florida. That was always the case. Yeah.

I'd confirm it too. I think it's important not only just for the games and in having to sweep out if you lose it but it just for the the mentality of it is bouncing off a loss there's no moral victories if you end up losing 2-1 in triple overtime on Thursday. You've got

keep in mind that Edmonton could have won that the overtime game as well. This gonna go the other way for them. So it's yeah, it you know, the series was Very tight and then last night was a blowout and Edmonton needs a response, but I do agree with you I think it's must win confirmed than I Rory McIlroy will make the cut this week I'm a hundred percent confirming this as soon as you think a guy like that's down and out, he'll come back. It's not like he's, you know, maybe it's a little wake up call and he'll be dialed. Like still one of the top players in the world on top of his game, master's champion. He's kind of been sideways a little bit, distracted.

I don't know what the hell he's had going on, but he can find his game and he can find it quickly. And I believe he makes the cut. I think he makes it but I'm concerned about something you said oh like you in in watching him here when we're at the course the other day he looks distracted he looked like he was not wasn't even there. I know he looks like he's not going to see somebody that's got something like bigger than like I don't like the way my club my seven iron looks.

It looks like there's something up there. That's what concerns me. I'm denying it man. I don't see him making a cut. Not at this place. Not with his mentality man. That was embarrassing the way he played on Friday. It was.

Yeah and I'm glad people are calling it the way it was. It was horrendous. Yeah they were like that was a complete joke show what he put on there. Yeah. He gets paid all that cake and goes here and has a little hit and giggle and he wheels around my golf course and talks to people and shakes hands and kisses babies and then he act goes up there and acts like it just didn't didn't mean squat and he played like that. It was embarrassing. Yeah it was and you know we call out team sport athletes all the time like Rory that was awful. Yeah he made an ass of himself in Canada. Yeah it was brutal and you know, we call out team sport athletes all the time like Rory that was awful Yeah, he made an ass himself in Canada

Yeah It was brutal and he's been great in the past and he's been very gracious to the tournament the patrons and all that in the past, but it was it was an awful performance and It was bad before he got here man Like I get what he did leading up to the Masters that is where it changed And to me it just looks like a guy that doesn't want to he doesn't really want to be playing right now again not because of anything nefarious or anything like that it's just you won like it's the equivalent of winning the Stanley Cup and then it's like hey we're

gonna do a little all-star shootout on July 10th you want to come play and you're like no I don't what why would I want to do that but you have to okay fine I'll put my gear on you think those you think those guys are burning around, dying to play? Like it's going to the World Championships after your season. That's probably the best equivalent. And that's what it feels like to me. I get it's a US Open, but he's got the slam. Oakmont's playing so tough, he's not sharp.

And I don't think he's been working on his game. You can't show up at the u.s. open with these conditions and not be ready to play i'm concerned it gets really ugly form they hope not i don't think he's gonna make the cut uh... by confirmed that i one of these three things will happen in the next

five years has been a complicated one one of these three things will happen in the next five years lane hud a bit of a complicated one. One of these three things will happen in the next five years. Lane Hudson will win a Norris, Dustin Wolfe will win a Vezna, or Macklin Celebrini will win a Hart. I'm going to deny it. I just think it's, they're really good young players, but there's so many other dialed in rock stars that are going to be primo for the next five to seven years so it's much it's I think where

you're going with this is because you're so young and you're a stud and you look like that you're automatically guaranteed other successes in the league and that's simply not the case not the case I I would deny it. The only one that I could really like that wolf is a hell of a goalie. Like you could invest in the next five years. Five years if that team continues to turn around and like they need to be good in five years when they get a new building. It's tunnel vision thinking Hayes.

It's tunnel vision. No it's not. No on Brian's part. Why I just asked a question. No, I just said, I know, but like, can I see Hudson? Because Montreal is headed. That is a television question. Hudson is heading in their, like Montreal is headed in the right direction. Right.

If Demidoff ends up hitting and they continue to progress and they found a goalie, they got some stuff, right? Like you could see them in the playoffs, you know, perennially. You could see them, Hudson being a difference maker Celebrating I've said this to you guys before I believe San Jose is gonna be good That's the guy about me or your has the best chance like you're telling me when he's 23 That's when the prime hits for hearts for points and that team turns around and they have an unbelievable season and he Hits a hundred and something points and McDavid's 33 and doesn't care anymore

You know that's the one for me Yeah, I'm gonna confirm it cuz I got three I got 15 get three chances. Yeah, I got three players times five I got 15 different tickets. I'll confirm that one of these guys who all three of them had a great rookie season Yeah, they're all gonna be the man where they play for the next five years. I'll confirm it. No tunnel vision over here. I love that. Guys, tunnel vision thinking you had a good year, you're guaranteed one of these other

little nuggets over here. It's like there's a nugget trail in your mind and you automatically pick them up. Okay. Tunnel. Tunnel. Well, how far could I expand this for you to jump on board? Let's say I add Bedard wins a heart in the next five years. Would you take that?

If I added that to the list, if I threw the Leafs, win a cup in the next five years. But those are like... Stop me when it becomes something you'd say, yeah, I'm on board. I can confirm that. You know what? I can't answer that question until I know what the roster looks like for next year because I have no idea what's going into it. The Bedard one seems like it's light years away.

I'm sorry. I feel bad because I just think I'm hoping actually he's on the Nathan McKinnon plan. Where McKinnon in his first couple years it was, you know, feel the league out and then get to that next level but but dar just Underwhelming even though 60-point guy and as in your teens, it's still impressive But not the generational that we thought he was gonna be Possibly right. Maybe that's Addison barger, right? Maybe bargers the guy who's got to wear that crown rocking it for the Blue Jays after they won again last night Alejandro Kirk four for five last night clutch hit hits a mini hut

He's in the mini. He's in the mini hut. He's in his own mini. Hut. He's in a mini igloo That's right and Bassett's on the mount tonight. I saw the stat Like basically when gossman burrios and Bassett play they're like a 90 plus win team when someone else pitches Not that's not the best and without frances in particular pitches they're basically colorado but uh... once they sell that everything's all good some more the jays later this afternoon danny green at

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All right, Mike Johnson in about 15 minutes. Danny Green coming up as well. Those Yanis rumors lasted about 48 hours, and now it like he's gonna return to Milwaukee. So that was fun Yeah, it's good. It's fun. Like it's the dragon the Raptors fan base at Jolt Yeah, just get people on board with the honest wanting out wanting to come here. Like no we love doing that man Man, we love doing that. Yeah, I'll wait till next summer. It's ridiculous though Like it's just like is anybody like it's like the Dragons then guy Yeah, I'll wait till next summer. It's ridiculous though. It's like the dragons then die.

We're waiting for Yanis to get off and now it's another. Like what the hell's going on? Are any of these people that are linked to Toronto ever going to come? But Jamie, it's almost like it starts with a guy at the local 7-Eleven that starts a rumor and it literally filters mainstream It's just like it blows up and I like I pray It exists disrespectful for the Euler fans and and everyone in Edmonton that does not happen with McDavid I don't know when he's eligible. Is it this summer July 1st? It's coming if they lose in the final, you know what that's coming Joe. Oh, yeah to be tweeting now going not

if they lose the final you know what that's coming joseph i had to be tweeting out going out there and i'll tell you about this is going to tweet out i'd talk to my cousin who knows his brother and my his brother puts his winter tires on mcdavid's brother's car and does it there's a chance he told me he told him and andy then he's coming so it's well that'll be that'll be beyond anything man. That'll be Otani plus Soto plus Yanis plus Kawhi. Especially if you're 0% that's happening. You know that

right? Zero. You're you're I know that's your insight. If he goes John Tavares and says this is just business, I'm going to wait. I'm sure I'll sign here and he doesn't then it'll just like he almost has to sign or just come out and say I'm going to wait, I'm sure I'll sign here and he doesn't, then it'll just like, he almost has to sign or just come out and say, I'm not signing here because then it'll just be a circus. You're talking about Edmonton. What are you saying? Zero percent he leaves Edmonton.

Zero percent he's coming to the Leafs as a free agent in a year. That's what I'm saying. Okay. It's asinine to even think. Why do you say that? Why would that, why is it 0%? Because his best friend is in Edmonton and signed an extension. You don't think the two of them are going to sign together?

I figured that would happen. My guess would be signs and extension with Edmonton close to July 1st. There won't be July 1st to let it play out. That is nothing to do with Toronto. That's more about him staying in Edmonton. No, but you're right. Like that's my point. As I, it could be, you could say Vegas or, you know, but it's just, it's, it's, it's the John Tavares thing coming home and the DJs are... Well, Tavares did that.

He did, he did come, he did come home, but... Pajama time. Didn't work out. Didn't work out. Didn't work out. I'm not, I'm not, I'm i might get there but i will say this i will happily if a year from now we're in this position

it's gonna get crazy that doesn't mean is leaving edmonton are coming here but if he hits free agency there'll be nothing like it nothing like it if they don't go see if they lose oilers can't get it done he needs a change you think it they think the leafs getting it done that's well that's not a solution to just ask the leviathan is texas in the group chat

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