OverDrive - OverDrive - June 11, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: June 11, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Panthers and Oilers' matchup for Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Final, Edmonton avoiding the spotlight on the ice and Cale Makar capturing his second Norris Trophy. NHL on TNT Analyst Brian Boucher joins to discuss the Panthers' winning style of play, Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl at the forefront and Stuart Skinner's role in the crease with the Oilers and Kevin Durant seeking a trade from the Suns.

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Brian Hazy, O'Duck dog Jeff O'Neill Jamie noodles McClennon going on guys going on did I miss something what the hell's wrong with this Rory McElroy like the guy wins the Masters and I thought like Rory's back he's my guy like did I miss something that happened to this cat but like he's just in a weird head space. He's in a weird place. He seems so pissy now. What could possibly be bothering you? What could it be?

We don't have the answer. Obviously, no one's got the answer. He won the Masters. He had such a great start to the year. You're right. He's on about his driver and Oakmont and what he learned at the open and all this different stuff But listen, I think I got out there. Yeah, he tossed that out there He's like I learned a couple things in Canada. Really? What'd you learn in Canada?

Right you played as poorly as we've ever seen you play. I have no idea what he could have learned But I guess he you know showed up and talked to the media Something the oilers were not willing to do today these sneaky little Edmonton oilers and people are getting Bent out of shape down in Florida that I guess they said they weren't skating and it was an off day And there's McDavid and dry saddle burning around and just want to be left alone All that to it everybody needs a break here or there or whatever if it's February, but I just want to be left alone i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i Yeah, it's the cup final. And we're talking about what? Ten minutes of your time? And it's easy for me to say that now, but I would have been the first one to say, you know what, today, no thanks.

But the Stanley Cup final? Well did you talk in the final? You probably didn't. I remember hearing a story from a reporter where you were like, no, get away from me. Cup final? I don't talk. I don't talk from me cup final. I don't talk I don't talk Told you guys I already told you guys my

System I I got screwed over and somebody I talked to in the morning Yeah told me that I ripped the like I ripped the Hurricanes fans And I said they're all Ernie Irvin fans Yeah, some guy on Sunday put it in his column and said, this is what O'Neal thinks of the hurricanes fans. They're all Ernie Irvin fans, Ernie, Bleep, and Irvin. So I read that and I'm like, okay, game day, never again, all because of that guy. So in the mornings people come up to me,

I'm like, I don't talk to the media in the mornings. What am I gonna tell you? I'll talk to you after the game, there's nothing I'm going to say in the morning. I think you know what? In the end, oh you're right, like you build 10 minutes and I do this chat sometimes for teams and stuff like that. In today's world where you've got escrow, you've got a partnership with the league, you're trying to grow the brand, I always tell the guys try and build 10 minutes into your daily routine for the media and treat it like a bonus if they don't ask for you.

A lot of times, again, easier said than done for a guy like me who wasn't asked for the media very often. McDavid, Dry Settle, it's every day and they want him. But their PR people can say, you know what, he spoke the other day, he's not going to be available today, he's going to speak tomorrow, the day of the game, or vice versa. Like to me, it's always a negotiation. It's a bad look when they just go, no, nobody's not available. Like if anything, just say those guys aren't going to be available, but geez, you can talk

to Troy Stetcher and whoever else that is available. To me, you're always trying to find middle ground with your rights holders, with all of, again, people that are trying to grow the brand. So I think it's a bit of a miss. It's not the biggest thing in the world, but it is a miss because it is the finals and you are looking to build the brand.

And it's their own fault. They planned the games three days apart. They should be playing tonight, be honest and fairness haze I know you don't like this, but you talk to them after the game you talk to them the next day What the hell you gonna ask them today just write your own story come on should be available or somebody else should be available Well, that's the thing. So here's here's my understanding of the backstory Okay, is that the Oilers, you know because there's so much media down there and again this is the stanley cup final this is as big as it gets the spotlight

is on your league and the oilers uh... indicated that it would be an off day you know for the regulars they wouldn't be on the ice and there might be some you know black aces out there or whatever and all the sudden you know someone had video of the ice

and there's McDavid and Dry Settle and all the big boys are out there. So they're practicing and they're skating. And that's what has caused a bit of a stir down there. I understand the average fan could not care less about whether or not TSN or Sportsnet or ESPN or TNT has a Mike Boomin there asking questions. I get it.

But it's more so the fact that the Eulers, why I think it's interesting is why the Eulers felt the obligation to do this. That to me is what I find very interesting because I don't believe for a second the Florida Panthers would try to sneak a slider past anybody right now. I think the Panthers are like, you want to come to my house for dinner. Come on over Turn the cameras on let's talk. Let's play and that's what I'm more curious about like amateur psychiatrist What is it because you got pump six one the other night? Is it because you realize this is the most pressure they've ever had in their lives tomorrow night?

Like that's just a reality you got to get it tomorrow You have to you have to have a big game you know that there's too many questions the players don't want i don't know i don't have that i i i i i i i mean it's not it's not a must to win it should win like they don't lose a pretty damn close but you know it's not a real as newtles do they have to win tomorrow you said yes or now it's not a must win because they all that i'm saying you're playing amateur six psychiatrists you say more they're avoiding the media well what Do they have to win tomorrow you said yes, so now it's not a must win because they know that I'm saying you're playing amateur

Psychiatrists you're saying well, they're avoiding the media. Well, what what else is the explanation? The point being is Florida gets zero media all season long So they're not used that's very that's you're right if they want to come to my house Go ahead Matthew Kachek goes on every podcast because he loves that stuff But the point you know if they lose six very common right now Exactly, Florida is is he if he is he on a podcast if they lose 6-1 the next morning? Probably not.

Again, that's not what we're asking. It's not podcasting. It's why did the, and I'm not saying it was McDavid that sent a trail the other way himself. I'm saying why did the team, I'm curious about this and I'm curious how the league is going to respond. I'm curious about the actual decision. Like is it make David that said to the media guy? We're not talking today. Just leave us alone Let us go play a practice and we wanted the media guy make the call and say nobody's talking coach

Who knows I think it's a mess like I said earlier I think it's a mess because what you do is you make a story out of nothing if they would have just said hey guys Are available but these two aren't talking or these four aren't talking because they've already talked enough. We're not talking about it. It's like, hey, you get at home, you get bouchard, you get, you know, and all the questions

are gonna be asked, do you feel like it's the biggest game of the season tomorrow? Who's gonna play in that? All of that type of stuff. I think it's a miss just based on the information. You make a story out of a non-story because you didn't take the 10 minutes. Okay guys, whether you like it or not, it's just going to be a little bit more prickly tomorrow morning at the morning skate, I think.

Well, they should be. They're down 2-1. No, I know. And they didn't play well last year. But I mean the line of questioning I think could get a little bit more prickly and you kind of set yourself up for that because it's got's got a stupid look to it. I don't like it. Like you said, Jamie, it's 10 minutes. You can't just fire it off for 10 minutes if you want to give garbage answers. But I don't know, it's just going to be a little bit spicy tomorrow. They're like, I don't know. You're right. The media is going to come in flying tomorrow. Yes.

You're like, why did, why did you do this? Why did that happen? Now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now,

now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, now, Stanley Cup Finals. You can mock the questioning and what are they going to ask. People have jobs to do. It's the Stanley Cup playoffs. It's the Stanley Cup Finals. Media outlets have paid literally billions of dollars for this. So you're supposed to be available. And if you're not, you're not. But it's one thing to just say not available. It's another thing to say, oh no, it's an off day day and then it's not like that would suggest that something uh... was right here and i think you're on a something

all that tomorrow now you know the usual suspects are going to get right in there and ask you know questions that that's what the story is going to be now why'd you do this what where it shouldn't be but tomorrow should be about the game itself and possible lineup changes. And ultimately it won't matter if the Oilers show up and win tomorrow night. No one's going to care.

Nothing's going to matter. But if they don't, you know, it's just going to snowball into a position where by the time they get back to Edmonton, it's going to be crazy back there about how this trip went and how this finals going for them. In the end You know they started good, and it was a coin flip in game two game three was a Debacle they played awful they need a response tomorrow That's the bottom line like but Florida's not just gonna go oh, they're gonna play better

So you know we better give them the well of course I mean or is allowed to show up and make adjustments and play and so I said yesterday guys paul maries came out with just a crazy comment saying yeah i think game four is going to be more like game one and two that is the craziest thing i've ever heard in playoff sports he wants game four to be exactly like game three why wouldn't he of course they won six one and they dominated the game and

all of a sudden it's just going to change it up. I don't know. I think he's anticipating Edmonton being much better. I was just going to say, I think he was saying, I think it's going to be more of a closer game than what, you know, you're not going to say, okay, we're going to have game four just like game three. Okay, if that's what he was talking about, if that's the storyline he was going with, just about the closeness of the score, I get that, but he's got to be telling his guys just go out there and absolutely done with them like that. It's going to be a tough chore though. They're going to respond.

They understand and I know Jamie, you just mentioned that they came back that incredible comeback last year. To play with fire and do that again, that would awfully crazy well that's the crazy to tempt that I don't think you you want to be into that that's why I said it's must win but I don't think it's like the series it's not literally exactly like it's obviously figuratively speaking but it's an incredibly important game it's it's 3-1 or 2-2 I mean you do the math. I mean, honestly, it's a must-win in the sense that you've got to put yourself back in the

series and have an opportunity going home 2 of 3. That's the biggest challenge. Where they've been great at all. Do the math. Yeah, do the math. That's where I was waiting for that. I was too. You got to counterpunch. I just think today in a scenario, people making noise about it. A lot of it's the media members down there that they got nothing to do today, so they're going, hey, I needed a story and I wanted to talk to this guy and they're not available. Or they pulled a fast one going, hey, we're not practicing and all of a sudden you see

those guys skating out. Now I guarantee you what the PR guy is going to say is, oh well we were told they're not skating and not and 97 decided he jumped on The ice And that's gonna be they'll be dancing around it and again of course. It's not the end of the world It's a mess though in a sense. You know it is because of the platform It's not it's a great complete non-story and no one really cares that much only although again people have jobs to do and they're trying To relay the stories of the players and trying to connect with the fans wherever they happen to be around North America or around the world for that matter. But if it's in November, December,

whatever, you know, this is the Stanley Cup play. Everything is amplified, everything. And it's even more amplified on Edmonton because all the pressures on them. Yeah. Right. Like if this was Florida that did this today, I think it would be spun very differently. It would be there go those rats and you know Well, they're not talking about it or look at these guys. They're the villains and look at they're just like I'm not talking to the Canadian Media screw you guys like it would be it would be Spun differently. I think because Edmonton's chasing the series now because of the way game three played out and the pressure that's on them for game four You know, it's it's different and there is somewhat of an obligation possibly because you're a Canadian team That you got more fans like you said noodles. You're covered more significantly. There's way more eyeballs on the Oilers

Domestically than there is the Panthers right down in Florida or throughout the US domestically than there is the Panthers right down in Florida or throughout the US but you know it sets the stage for this is the beauty of the final like there's just different stories that pop up different things that happen and you know by the time the puck drops tomorrow it's not gonna matter it's just gonna be about who shows up and who plays who's ready to play and I think the Eulers you know I fully expect they respond. I think they'll be a lot better. Skinner is going to have to be good.

But to me, again, it's always about McDavid and Dry Settle. A lot of people the last couple of days have been pointing out and writing that the depth scoring was so red hot for so long for the Oilers, it was inevitable it would slow down a little bit. If that's happening, then that just puts more pressure on those two guys you know like if you're not gonna get contribution it doesn't mean they won't doesn't mean the third and fourth lines won't or they won't get offense from the point or whatever but or the big three those big three it's you know McDavid

and Dry Settle and Bouchard you know they're gonna have to have just unbelievable games tomorrow night. Well they they have to. There has to be a massive response. But you also have to take a look at it is is this group has to find their game. Like, I don't think I agree with McDavid. I don't think they've played their best hockey yet in this series. You know, they've had pockets of it, you game one, Echolme scores, Arvidsson scores. There was some support cast that chips in. But you look at it, the second period,

they were no good in that game one. Game two, same thing. Second period, no good. There's been pockets. And they can not laugh it off, but they can say, hey, both teams are going to have momentum throughout the game. There's been pockets and they can they can not laugh it off, but they can say, hey, both teams are going to have momentum throughout the game. But there was those are full periods, full stretches where they were Florida was clearly

the better team. But Edmonton finds like Edmonton, Florida was a better team in game one. But McDavid scores a dagger right at the end of the second period there. Right. It's my 16 for something ridiculous right and make David scores to make it 3-1 like that's the type of Florida Jamie like they do as much as the Oilers players got to get better and like to win this game tomorrow night like the Florida Panthers

we talked about it yet like they they can they can swarm you and make your best players kind of look average. That's kind of what they do when they're at their best. They can make you dump the puck in, you don't get it back, and they're physical, and they make guys disappear. We've seen it in all the series they've been involved in. For stretches of times, they make best players go away. Now those best players have come back and had stretches where they've dominated like the Leaf players and

Sometimes the Carolina hurricane players, but they just what they do is I think they limit it where it's like you might have a period here He might have but you're not doing it for 60 minutes and you're definitely not gonna do with the whole series Yeah, that's what they do man. Yeah, well, that's why they're in the driver's seat right now and they're in the third Stanley Cup final Yeah, you know tomorrow night the rest of the way it's on Edmonton to well there that's whether the driver's seat right now and are the third stanley cup final yet tomorrow night the rest of the way it's on edmonton to to counter that you know i i i'm looking forward to seeing what make david address i'll have

in store in particular uh... tomorrow night uh... brian boucher about fifteen minutes chris pronger today the norris was announced to anyone's surprise cal macar ended up winning up winning it today that's his second in his career that's a an interesting total like does he hit if I gave you over under 4.5 Norris trophies in his career I'm gonna say over I'm gonna the adc is at least gonna get a five pack you think so yeah what did Lindstrom have six or seven seven I think Lidstrom had yeah seven yeah his trophy but I he got so popular by the end it was like

they were just handing it to him like he was I mean such a great player but I I always challenged that I thought Niedemeier should have had more I thought Pronger could have but it was just Lidstrom he got a lot his career a lot he went on that crazy run in his mid-30s. Right. And it was, yeah, he won some, I thought he won three or four in a row. I looked that up, but like, Whitstrom had a run where it was crazy. Yeah. But he, you know, he's an, he was an unbelievable player, but he was a unique player. Like a lot, he wasn't physical. He was just really smooth, didn't get hit ever. You talk to players who could never hit him. He literally never got hit. Like he was just so elusive. He was just a very smooth 30 minute a night player,

distributed the puck, quiet, great leader, good person, all of that type of stuff. But he got that mantra. It was like, remember Shea Weber was always a perennial, Mike Packer was always a guy. Now we're seeing Barkov. Well, it's Barkov with the sulky, exactly. Yeah, it's just like Barkov gets it, you know, handed to him every year. Not that they don't deserve it, but there were other people that are in there or should be in there that conversation. And feels like Makar is creeping towards that. Right. If he's healthy, it's just like, well, he's the guy. He gets it. He put like

he scored 30 goals and 90 points this year. Like it's he was definitely a deserved 30 goals and 90 points The guy is unbelievable hockey player. Yeah, but I think that's one thing about the award Hayes where I Don't know like could Jacob Slaven ever win a Norris trophy. There is so much of a focus on points. It's like you could almost say the guy, the defenseman, the highest profile defenseman with the most points is going to have the best chance, which I don't know if I necessarily agree with, man. Well, there should be two separate awards, almost like an Art Ross for the defenders and then like a Jacob Slavin type of thing, a guy who's an action like Gus Forsling like

Forsling should be a guy who would be in the conversation of best defenseman in the league defenseman yeah like a guy shot when you go from Gus Forsling to Kale McCarr Kale McCarr is gonna win out every time a hundred because McCarr maybe it's fair that McCarr just wins five in a row yeah but but I guess I think you could have two separate awards. One that actually a guy who is a rover, because you see that's what a lot of these DR are rovers up in the play creating offense, defensively that's what I would look at the Slavens, Forslings, guys like that who are traditional defensemen, defensive defensemen. There should be an award for

that gets complicated at brian haze award that's yes i'm there to stay at home just start defenseman out i like that idea i'm i'm for it ok uh... brian boucher later this hour chris pronger coming up jerry's percentages at five thirty were tracking the j's we've got a u.s. open picks as well you know oakmont i'm i'm worried that there's such a build-up

It's like that movie that's coming out like greatest movie ever you won't believe it that you're gonna be disappointed If someone shoots three or four under the course doesn't hold up because it's almost like Augusta in a way That this story is more about the course how great Oakmont is and every player sands the toughest thing they've ever seen Where these guys go out and torch it Will that be somewhat disappointing? We'll catch up with Scottie Vail in a couple of hours caddy for Keegan Bradley good Friend of the show big leaf fan Scottie in a couple of hours and again tracking the Jays in game three the NBA finals tonight Oklahoma City a five-point favorite five five and a half point favorite going into game three tonight. Overdrive continues TSN 10 50 and on TSN for squinting

through bright days. That's a no struggling with glare. Also, no. What about sunglasses over regular glasses? Big no. But prescription sunglasses from Pearl Vision. That's a huge yes. They're a must have for enjoying the sun in style. Choose from designer frames like Ralph Lauren, Coach, Michael Kors and more. Arrange an eye exam at pearlvision.ca and get 40% off lenses. Some restrictions and exclusions may apply. See participating stores for details. Maisy I saw a tweet today of an activity or a festival this weekend that you probably destroyed back in your heyday the taste of Italy I can't imagine you

wandering around hammering Peronis and eating penne. Yes, exclusively penne and gnocchi possibly, a lasagna. Although I bring my own lasagna. You know I bring my own. Dude, if you set up a Hayes lasagna booth at Little Italy Fest, they would kill you. Yeah, it would honestly be the end of me. You'd never see me again. You know those like, you know like Borat,

those just obscene like things he would do where people were so grossed out? They would kill you. I think it would be a similar reaction to Borat. I think it would be. Like if I showed up totally ignorant to it, thought, okay, I thought everyone brought their own thing. Like it was kind of a potpourri of like Italian food. And I set up with my lasagna with all the ingredients that would probably bother everybody.

Cottage cheese. Oh yeah. Just stuff like no name sauce and stuff that would really bother people. You would rattle a lot of nonas there though. You'd rattle a lot of people if they were there. I would, noodles, until they actually tasted my lasagna and then they'd say, you're in. Put a vowel on the end of that name, hazo. I'd be hazo from now on.

Hazo. You're right though, man. Taste of Little Italy, the taste of the Danforth used to be my go-to, man. You'd be cruising down the Danforth, the food was phenomenal. Great festivals in the city, right? We've reached that part of the schedule or part of the calendar where there's a lot of

great activities every single weekend. There's something else going on somewhere in the city. We need a little overdrive festival somewhere. Where would we set that up? I don't know. Boston Pizza. I guess Boston Pizza. Yeah, I guess we could do that.

You know. A tour of Italy there. You know, some pasta, some pizza. I think before the NHL season we have overdrive fast at Boston Boston pizza. I love that idea I love that idea and we need to we did what the hell are we gonna do? Are we gonna have like a Jerry's percentage booth? Precisely that I think it'd be great we're all set up in different spots throughout a Boston pizza and people just kind of cruise through with their

plates full and You know I take a hot take station hot take station. I'll be there you throw a mini Jerry You got a confirmed with an eye in a corner noodles is yelling at people about his brother and that house brother with some football picks Picks and chakurri station with Al's brother yes yeah you can't miss that man that would be a grand slam. A hot take station and Hayes is just yelling at people with hot takes and right and they're countering with their own hot well that's the beauty of it that it just keeps going until like I close the doors. It's got to be like a hot take machine like the much music member that much music machine

or the corners yeah blasted and they'd go out downtown speakers corner and they would get crushed and then wheel in there and they'd be like they would be so trash we should hear we should have an overdrive speakers corner where people just go in with their hot gas after a game or so I like that I set up set up right outside a leaf game and people just go in and say, this guy was great. Yeah, and then we get to watch them and play it the next day. I love where we're going with that. It would be hilarious.

I like the thought of that myself. I do. I think the wheels naturally will be in motion here. No, they won't. Probably not. Yeah, probably not. There was a picture that circulated online. I thought that's what you're referencing.

We'll get to that a little bit later later on we need to break it down based on what i saw earlier today uh... jay's inaction retract about the jays are hot they did it again last night they're the hottest team in sports right now step aside for the panthers step aside you know anybody in the nba finals the blue jays are on fire i have to believe it's like

forty five degrees down in south Florida right now like how hot would it be trying to prepare for a hockey game tomorrow night. Here's a long time NHLer, you see him on the NHL on TNT. Here's Brian Boucher. Give us a weather update, what's it like down there Brian? Oh, unbelievable. 89 degrees, no thunderstorms uh... the pool is uh... it's been fantastic all day

changes taken over but uh... a remarkable two days off here in here in for lauderdale so would you splash some water on your face or would you ask jake walman to do that for you uh... we have a say about that boosher was that is a test to use it between the better and the work

and i i'm embarrassed by truthfully i thought i would be in a bit of a baby there like i had the one squared i got many did it like two and three times and i don't know why i i i reacted i reacted like a dad almost like i was banging on the glass like telling my kid to cut it out, you know and Immediately right after I had complete remorse. I was like, oh man. What did I just do? Actually, you know you guys know how it is like it's their game. It's there It's not about I shouldn't even be you shouldn't even know that I'm there and I was I truthfully I was embarrassed that I did that.

But he came over and apologized at the start of the third period. He was totally cool about it. He's like, I'm totally sorry, because I was mad because they took my glove and stuff. I said, I'm sorry too. So it's all good. He was a big boy about it.

But I wish I could have gone back and played that differently. Boj, from what you saw at ice level, that 6-1 kind of thrashing there the Panthers put on the Oilers How far of a distance that the Oilers have to travel to? Kind of take game the next game because that was a beatdown And people are talking about the ice being tilted the series being tilted Like how far do these guys have to go to kind of make a statement and take game four?

It feels like a long way, truthfully. Just the way it went down. You understand third period is garbage time you're taking. You try and get your licks in. I get all that. But aside from that, I haven't seen like Nugent Hopkins to me, I haven't seen him in this series so far and he's playing hurt. He doesn't look right. They took him off the power play there in game three. The depth that was there in game one that I was so impressed with, like Kaepernick

and Podkosen and Arvidsson, you know, not as noticeable, probably partway through game two, now into game three, and it feels like that gap is widening. It feels like Florida's, that annoyance and that ability to get underneath your skin and get you off your game, and it feels like it's growing. At least at ice level, that's what I feel like. Maybe the two days off is perfect for Edmonton

and they can kind of regroup, reset. But unless some other guys get going, I mean, it's going to take huge games from 97 and 29 to get this thing back to even. And they got to stay out of the box. I mean, you can't take the penalties you took in the first period. I understand the penalties were even, kind of,

but the reality is what if Edmonton has? Three to one power plays in the first period in it and they score and they get those guys going They took penalties that I thought were careless penalties And I thought it took them out of the flow of the game and they never could catch up With Brian Boucher the NHL and TNT game four Cup final tomorrow And you know Hyman's not walking through that door. Like you said, Nugent Hopkins clearly is not at a hundred percent and And for me and I think for all of us like our focus goes to McDavid and Drysidle Because they weren't very good the other night either and everything was out of rhythm for the Oilers

But you know, how much can you expect out of them individually tomorrow night? And if you're Paul Maurice and the Panthers You know, it's impossible to completely neutralize them if they're on their game but Florida does a really good job of finding a way to poke away at superstars what do you think that's gonna look like for McDavid and Dry Settle tomorrow night what do you what would you expect them to be you know facing in terms of how Florida is gonna attack them tomorrow night? I think we're gonna see more of what we saw in game three where they just very little space dry settle had very little space.

Aside from McDavid's first shift to game three, I, you know, it looked like a frustrating night for him. You know, they, McDavid's gotten hit twice in this series. He got hit in game two in the middle of the ice. He got hit by act glad last game. Like it just feels like those guys are trying, but there's just not enough behind them. The way Florida has that depth and the way that they've got

such responsible players on Florida that can, they can do it at both ends of the ice. There's, it's, it's committee that they can put out there. It can be Barkoff, it can be Lundell, it can be, it can be Bennett. And it doesn't have to just be Forsling and Ekblattic. So they've got so many different people that can shoulder the load of trying to shut those guys down

and unless Edmonton can find some depth contributions, I mean, it just feels like, I know it's exciting to watch 97 and 29 together, but it feels like they've gotta do it separately and they need more from other people in order for those guys to get to be effective and yeah you can put them together at certain times and obviously on the power play but if you go with to it too early I just feel like it's a I think it's a death trap for the Oilers and I think you know somehow they got to get some other guys to help

them out. Bush the last time I checked none of us four are filing any stories this evening. If that's correct, I don't think any of us are reporters. We don't care what players talk, players don't talk. What did you make of the Oilers kind of not having the guys out there to talk today? Is that like no big deal? That's their choice or what do you make of it? I don't have a problem with it. Um, I, you know, I think, you know, playoff time, you've got to find a way to keep the guys fresh.

And, you know, I think if you can, you know, with the two days off, it's kind of weird too. It's, it's not like it's a typical. It's not like it's a typical off day. You know, you've had a couple of hours, you know, yesterday was the day. So I don't have a problem with it. I mean, it's just odd that you have two to two off days in one city without travel. So I can understand it.

These guys have got to get, they've got to reset. They've got to find a way to find some energy and they got to win one game. If they can find a way to do that, however you need to do it, get this thing to two, two, and it's the best of three and you got home ice. Maybe you know, them keeping them away from everybody is a good thing. Bush, what do you make of the goalies? I mean, Stuart Skinner didn't have a game, obviously, but you know, Bobrovsky, what do you make of his game?

Your ice level? And I thought he was really good early on last game and then didn't really have to contribute after that. But overall, you know, what do you make of that matchup and how it's unfolded? Yeah it's unfolding probably the way I think you know everybody would expect right Bob is a guy that's at the height of his game his focus is impeccable his preparation he stays out of all the all the nonsense he doesn't get caught up in a lot of extracurricular. And he's doing what I think we all expect him to do.

Skinner, unfortunately, this was the big question mark coming in, what Skinner were we going to get? And game one was encouraging. Game two, I thought there was signs that there was some cracks and I think in game three, we saw what we saw early on in the playoffs and then to me that's troublesome. I mean, just the idea that some people are talking about,

boy, they should go to Pickard for game four. I don't know what you think, Noodles, but I mean, you go to Pickard, I mean, it's over in my opinion. I give I give Skinner one more shot here like I let's see what he can do here in game four I mean I know he's got like great game four numbers I don't know what that means but maybe it means something and win one game but and if he doesn't you're down 3-1 and you want to get desperate and go to Pickard and have the guys fight for the backup I get it but I think turning to Pickard right now would

be a panic move and I think unnecessary I think yeah Skinner wasn't wasn't I don't blame it on him he you know would he love to get a couple of saves like maybe fight off for Hagee's great shot or find a way to you know fight off Reinhardt's maybe get a big save on the Bennett breakaway it didn't happen I'm not blaming it on him but certainly he's been outplayed by Bobrovsky so far yeah I agree I think it's just you know the biggest thing for me is is I thought it was pretty even the first couple games last game he got exposed but so did the rest of his team so if it was that his team played well and he was no good then

like game one I believe it was game one team played well and he was no good, then like game one, I believe it was game one or game two against LA, where McDade, what was the big comeback where Mcgave won? Where they stormed back. Yeah. Like that, that to me should have been a one game by, by the Oilers to storm back. And I didn't think Skinner was good. I thought their whole team stunk last game. So I think you come back with Skinner saying everybody gets an opportunity for retribution and if they lose then yes, then you start throwing changes into the mix to try

and get back into the series. Well again, I'm with you on that. Yeah, I think he's undefeated in game fours like you said Brian. I don't know if it's worth anything but you know it can't be a bad thing I don't know if it's worth anything, but you know it it can't be a bad thing Necessarily that he shows up while in game fours, and you know it does feel like that's just always an underlying story You know we're talking to it and when they win It's you know Skinner is not a big part of the chat when they lose He is a big part of the chat yet the combo of Skinner and Pickard You know they've been to back-to-back cup finals. And I'm curious, you know, you experienced that in your time

and you know, you got Bob on the other side who is just this invincible figure that can't be stopped and can't be beat and you know he's playing every single night. On the other side, the two guys have jockeyed back and forth for a couple of years, but that's the nature of the NHL with 32 teams. You know, there just,

there aren't that many superstar stud goalies, so patchwork is almost necessary for a lot of teams. It's gonna take a big effort from their group, everybody. Right, I mean, they've got two of the best players, and they have the best player, and then maybe arguably the next best player, but it's gonna take a group effort in order to help out the a group effort in order to

help out the back end in order to help out the goaltender so that they can give themselves a chance. I think stay out of the box. I mean if you can like I understand you want to play in your face like you can't be taking stick penalties. Keep your stick down. You can't be you know those are just they're bad they're momentum killers especially a team like Edmonton that I think they feast off of getting on and getting on the power play and they get buzzing.

If they can do that, allows Skinner to kind of settle in. I still felt like it was a game though. It's funny, like in the second period, they were right there. I could sense they were getting frustrated in the second period and obviously they took that late penalty at the end of the second period. And I know it was garbage time in the third, but they were right there.

Even if they were as bad as they were, man, if they just get a power play or two and you pop one in and there's life. But it didn't happen. They got to find a way to reset and hope that their goaltender isn't the story the way it's been in the story the way it's been uh... in the series who do you have as the cons my favorite on the florida side of things uh... bennett

and the made that's got to be done it now uh... this one with how many rolled over a real gold you have a deal like twelve or whatever i have spent only guy that can catch him is marsh and marsh and has to have tricks or something crazy here possibly but that's what it'll take for him to dethrone them because it's been at

it's been at all day long yeah i mean twelve gold in the play and and on the road remarkable and just you can even quantify it's not a statistic that you can put the leg that shift smokes two guys and then scores on a breakaway you kid me it's like like magic yeah it's an incredible story and it speaks to the

depth of Florida that the leaders in the clubhouse through three games are the second-line center and the third-line left winger like that's who we're talking about as the cons might blocks that's all true death you have kind of good players up and down your lineup you have guys on your second line in your third line that could win a con smite

that's true depth that's exactly what it is uh... by brian great man. Stay cool down there. Get back in that pool and thanks for doing this. We appreciate it. I'm heading right back in the pool right now. Thanks, guys. Oh, boy.

There he is, Brian Boucher, the NHL on TNT. Yeah, I mean, when the dust settles, again, we still have more games and we'll see how this plays out. But if Florida ends up winning this, that will launch into the conversation of where do they stack all time? There are always different eras that you have to consider. Post-salary cap, I think, is important.

It is a completely different world, completely new era. If they're two or three years away from another cup or two more cups or whatever, then you bring in the Islanders of the 80s, the Oilers of the 80s, the Habs of the 70s. All of a sudden you start talking, you blow past the salary cap stuff. I think what we just stumbled across there is the best example of it. There is a very good chance that either the second line center or the... which has happened before, like Malkin won a Conce Smythe in 08 you know there's obviously it's happened it's not you know as if it's unheard of but I think Marchand is a third line left

winger with a chance to win the Kahn Smythe and in large part because of how well he's played but also because it's not just Barkov it's not just Reinhardt it's not just Forsling or Ekplad just Reinhardt. It's not just for Slinger eggplowder Bob It's the whole lineup like if you watch the Panthers like we have like you are you are familiar with everybody Like Luz de Rhinan is like a household name for hockey fans. It's a guy on the third line You know like it's yeah, you just Nate Schmidt is a guy like we're with other teams But I'm peg one to g gasm they're like out here but but you're right for a patient is down there is is exactly like your

slotted in your playing well like they can each met you know was playing either too high in winnipeg or the team above him wasn't as good as the the panthers that's an accurate story about that guy got there and he tried some stupidass pass and he got this is just who knows How these stories float around but it was reported he got back to the bench and somebody grabbed him and said we don't make that Play here. That's a stupid-ass play and we don't play that game home. We don't play that Yeah, well, that's you know The old culture thing and even the whole discussion about the cap and getting guys to buy into it and take less money part of it estate tax of course

i don't think that's culture brian i think that's just winners like winning hockey a winner a smart hockey team guys that know what works and what doesn't i i don't know like this term culture yet so encompassing idea i get what i think it's just like that we didn't go anywhere yes we're so ready brand of hockey where you do stupid ass stuff, you're not petulant about it, you don't go, oh I tried, like I thought there was a good play there. You just, somebody says to you, which used to happen a lot in the NHL, that's garbage, don't try it.

All these guys now, they're like, well I thought I saw somebody there, it was a good try. I said, no, it doesn't work, so don't do it right What's using your head smart place once you start winning man? You can get people like you can sell the discount because they've won right like it's not easy to do that elsewhere Like please take a little discount so we can win when everyone's looking around saying I don't think we can win with this group where in Florida It's like yeah, we they will win like you can win and they're they're on their two wins away from doing it again And it's on the orders to you know get back in the series and make that

Basically not a possibility because you know It was this would and I don't want to put the car too far before the horse But it would be crushing to lose to the same team two years in a row like just crushing dude you do a lot of sleep well you look at it you look at it they've actually lost I think four years in a row to the cup fight the cup champion have they not Edmonton yeah I don't know I know the least did that a lot if they live if they lose this series which again it's two one i know that i have a lot of people that

are forced to err don't grave already but i don't understand that indian during that if they are lose how i want to have a lot of people are you are not going to nobody point that but if they lose in this one and then the year before i think it was they lost to Vegas and then they lost to Colorado I think those are the last yeah or

That's a very leafy thing to do is they lost to Tampa I mean it's not in the first round. That's the difference That's the if the oilers are saying hey we lost to the cup finals then I'm in the least you know if that's the if the oilers are saying hey we lost to the cup finals then them in the least should know i'm not a good thing hands i'm saying like that's the day if you look at it the pathway like it it's they would be frustrating to see very much that eventually that was my point this one in particular because you're literally in the cup final right there it's right in front of you you just you gotta get it

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Chris Pronger Jerry's percentages coming up in the next hour Game three the NBA finals tonight, Oklahoma City, five-point favorite. They never cover on the road. They haven't been great on the road. We caught up with Danny Green yesterday, he pointed that out. So we'll look ahead to that game a little bit later this afternoon. We'll get to our US Open picks. You know, it's about to break loose in the NHL end in the NBA. You know, when the finals come to an end, you roll right into the draft and free agency. Yeah. And I found these Kevin Durant reports very curious the way it's being worded.

Everyone's reporting it the same way that Kevin Durant and his business partner are looking over possible trade options. Like not as a mean. Yeah, why is his business partner like i've i've never really seen that before like is this about winning is it about marketing is about you know making more money can all that is james harden they just gone to the well too many times man it's

like stop it's right like stop it's what is this? You're not that guy anymore, man Well, and that's the truth is like Katie. He can still score. He can still shoot. He's still Kevin Durant He still scares the hell out of opponents, but come playoff time, you know He hasn't really factored in in a long time because he's been on bad teams And I just I don't know. I found that curious like his business partner What does his business partner know about whether or not Kevin can win if he goes somewhere else that is weird

You know just it's it must be just framed the wrong way More depth to it than that yeah like just as business partners looking at a trade like right is that his buddy who he? Deems his business partner? What was the guy? Is it Guerrero whatever, that Tom Brady's guy? Yeah, that was the TB12 guy. Yeah. But he was like his training guru. Life coach.

Lifestyle guy. You know what? We're dealing with one. Oh, there's a guy that, what if every time we made a decision, like, oh, it's like, okay, my life partner and I. My muse. What's your life coach? So your life coach. Isn't that what it's called? okay, my life partner and I, what's no, life coach. So you're life coach. Isn't that what it's called?

The use of life coach. My life coach is great though. Like I ask them about fitness. Like what should I do? I know, but let's say we want to do something with the show. Let's say we have a meeting on overdrive and it's like the three of us and you're like, yeah, my life coach has to be in there. I'd go get the hell out of here.

You guys would both say, you go work somewhere else because i'm not doing that i'd be the next week conversation i don't know that we're in a meeting and you said guys before we make a call this i gotta bring in this guy would say noodles i don't ever want to work with you again i'm sorry that's how it would offer directs whatever his causes for his business partners is in the middle he's a basketball player what the hell business partner does

That's what I mean. Let's what we're talking about. It's insanity Do you want to win or are you looking for side deals and endorsements? You know and tickets and stuff Yeah, like I would think KD would be like and I'm obviously he's gonna make the final call like these guys are Businesses within themselves. They make so much money and they're so marketable and all that But I just I don't know. I don't get where the business guy comes into play on You know surveying all the different rosters and the different potential for winning, you know in the future for for Kevin Durant Chris Pronger coming up Jerry's percentages and James Duffy found a picture somewhere online that was posted on Twitter today.

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