OverDrive - OverDrive - June 13, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: June 13, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jamie McLennan and Jonas Siegel for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Oilers' impressive comeback win against the Panthers in Game 4 of the Stanley Cup Final, the entertainment factor of the series and Edmonton's successful game for the team. Got Yer Back Podcast Host and Former NHLer Jason Strudwick joins to discuss the Oilers' incredible win, Leon Draisaitl's elite run and Calvin Pickard stepping up big in the game. They also discuss Mitch Marner's future with the Maple Leafs and Joe Bowen announcing his retirement from broadcasting in Toronto.

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Jamie Noodles-McClennan, and there's Jonas Siegel of the Athletic. What's going on? How are we doing this afternoon? I don't know, man. I just like I don't know what I saw last night. I gotta be honest. Like I you're in Edmonton too. Were you in the moss pit last night? Just hanging out. But I mean, at the end of the day, like I don't know what I saw. Like I at your and we're all in group text, so I don't know like you know you me and an old geno or on one there's another one like there's a lot of moving parts but I was on a group text where I actually laughed because I went back on the group text to see as the game went along to see what people were saying it

was outrageous I can't I can't imagine people's Twitter feed. They must have had to go and delete a bunch of stuff because it was the weirdest game. Here's the beauty of it. Is Euler fans were at the forefront of it all. And this is what ends up happening. And I always find this funny because I have no dog in the fight. I didn't tweet anything. I didn't send anything out until later in the evening about how great the game was, how great the series was. Yeah, it was. And I've been caught doing that, like I can't believe it,

this is awful, and then it flips the other way. And then I've been kind of tracking it because it's kind of funny. You see Euler fans going back, oh, tweeted something out, and other people have tweeted things out, other public figures, and Euler fans are like, take that back, what do you think of that?

And it's like, you weren't freaking out after the first period oiler fans you weren't blasting the team and saying what the hell's the matter with these guys like freaking out more than anybody else that's what I mean like a hundred percent like if if they're you know throwing you know garbage at the people from outside the market saying take that back Can you imagine what they were saying internally internally on their own like it? It was ridiculous always I always had faith. I always knew they'd come back. No, you did it No, no, you didn't but they did and it was an incredible game man

Three of the four games so far Jonas have been all-time great classics by classic classic games I was thinking back this morning is this like the best final I've seen and it Feels like it and I was trying to think back to like previous years and I can't really think of one that comes to mind Immediately, is that like recency bias? Is this the best final you've seen? Well, it probably is, but I do think that there's a Canadian element to it. I think McDavid and Dry Settle being involved. You know, I think the the 06 final was a great one. Yeah, you know, the 2010 or 2011 final Vancouver, Boston, that's where I was going

to say that one. And I was in the building for game seven It ended up being a four nothing kind of dud but in the end like that was a good series That was a really good series good two good teams going at it Boston st. Louis in 19 was a great series Yeah, one seven, but it's I think it's different because it's a Canadian team and because of the superstars that are involved It has everything you'd be looking for in terms of a compelling Series if your own team isn't involved right like really if your own team is involved. It's gonna be much more captivating But you've got the big bad Florida Panthers who are just mopping the floor with everyone and dismantling teams as they go effectively Third time in a cup final they got these big bold figures

like Kachuk and Bennett and all these other guys. Marshand now. And then on Edmonton side of things you got McDavid and Dreisaitl and individual greatness and them trying to chase down team greatness. I think you have everything you could possibly want in this cup final. And it's the rematch. And's the rematch which which adds to it uh... and that's the thing about watching a game last night in the oilers they're not champions they haven't won anything yet they act as if they are and they perform like they are

you know like that that come back last night as bad as they were in the first they were better if they were equally as good if they were in the first they were better they were equally as good if not better in the second period yes to completely twist the game on its heels and then I thought they played really well in the third and obviously Florida's built like a champion because they are and they've got that ability to keep fighting and Reinhardt of course he ties it up and off the stick at Kachuk to Reinhardt it's tied the place is going nuts and

all house breaking loose and everything is back on the table but you know the Panthers are literally champions but you look at the Oilers man like they haven't done it yet they don't have the rings they don't have the banners but that was a championship effort and performance last night to recover the way they did well think about it okay their last Four periods after that first period their last four periods. They had been dummied Outscored just outclassed in all six scenarios Like that first period was an ass-kicking. Yeah, they got crushed that you know I sent you guys the stats and Jonas you're being a hero

So being a hero I've never seen stats like that. Never. I'm not saying they're wrong. I've just never seen them. 39 high danger chances. I've never seen that. 39 to 36 for the high danger chances, which it is insane. But I will say it. This is where I was going to come back to in the first period, Florida was so good that high danger chances were 13 to 1. Now, Stu Skinner allowed 3 goals, but he also stopped 10 high danger chances on top of it. I felt bad for him because Pickard comes in and Pickard did exactly what he needed to do, slam the door, shot in, and give them an opportunity. But that was not Stu Skinner. That was not a weak, goaltending performance that they would like, we got to get him out of there.

But that being said, it was a strategic pull that worked. And that's where Knoblock, we've talked about it, some of the things that he does, because putting in Stetcher didn't really work. Stetcher gets run over, gives that turnover to Verhege and it's in the back of the net. And I think he plays like two shifts after that. So, you know, Klingberg will go back in probably for Stetcher and where you can protect him on home ice. But that pull, I mean, it could go either way, right? Well, there's no losing at that point. I guess the point is if Pickard goes in and gives

up one or two quick, like well it was over anyway the only reason why you know you can look back on it the way that you are is because he they showed up they started playing they started scoring and it was that players you know it was it was the depth players that that scored and and you know Nugent Hopkins gets him on the board, but darn on nurse with a beauty. Um, that happened in assist and capping in with an assist. Absolutely. Um, and you know, you're right about Skinner. Now it was somewhat of a mercy poll slash inspiration to the group.

Like we're, we're pulling them out yet. You just said, you know, the Stetscher Klingberg thing, there's no way Skinner's playing again. Like there's in my opinion, well again i gave five next game he cannot start a five you gotta do i i i i never loses and i i thought he was brilliant last night he made some stops in overtime there were unbelievable uh... the Bennett one timer this one right now that's what my name will save

and i thought it was in guys i I thought they were gonna buzzer it late I thought it was gonna be one of those down-the-ice buzzers work out that way, but He made two big saves in overtime And I also think I think it was Lister ran in or Lundell in the second period was in alone on a party He was a breakaway for Lundellell, and he makes the blocker save. So I had been saying this. Stu Skinner has faced, I think, five breakaways

that I can think of recently. One with Tyler Sagan in Dallas, and then Reinhardt, Marshand, you know, a couple times, and then Bennett. And the only one he'd stopped was where Reinhardt missed the net You need to save at the right time the Oilers in the second period You know so they were out chanced in the first period 13 to 1 the Oilers had 20 high danger chances in the second period 20 to 3 it was it was insane

Well, they tilted the ice and you got to also look at Florida. They were awful, right? Like yeah, they were gotta go both ways. You can't just yell, well, the Edmonton was horrendous, but Florida was great. It was flipped because Florida, again, that's a championship team that completely mailed it in after they were up 3-0. Like, that's, I've noticed people in Florida, you know, harping on them, and I think it's deserved. Like, you're up 3-0 on home ice after what, you've got to win that game. Like, you should be a 3-1 in in the cup final and they threw that away now credit to Edmonton for for coming back and taking it But if I'm in Florida right now, I'm looking at this saying we may have just thrown away our opportunity Like it's now it's the best two out of three. There's still a very good team clearly. They're gonna keep playing I think this is probably going seven now

But yeah, you give a team like Florida a three nothing lead on home ice. That's got to be a win It has to be yes, and it obviously went the opposite way And then you know who's the guy that does it in the end? It's dry subtle, and it's a fluky Crazy bounce, but that's four overtime winners this season But that's four overtime winners this season. Four overtime winners in one playoff run. And we did our clutch shot earlier in the week, and that's why he was in mine. And I didn't have McDavid in. Because I was like, I gotta put winners in, and I'll make one exception.

And when it comes to clutch, I'm sorry, there's no one like Dry Subtle. Like the guy, he's a beast. I thought he was unreal last night. I thought McDavid was good. I thought McDavid was very good at times and had opportunities but to me it was dry subtle that drove the bus and it's I think it's fitting and justified that he gets the OT winner because it's just natural for him that's just what he does he was fantastic when needed to be but I felt bad for those guys in the first period because I thought Darnell nurse and Evander Kane did their best to almost take them right out of the game like I

It's just you know what I mean the penalties But it's the lack of awareness at the time of the penalties Evander Kane's taken like four stick penalties like he checks it I text right he will ask him but Ev Andrew came checks with a stick and and high So all of a sudden the stick gets high and like the Oilers the lack of discipline after allow after them getting four penalties In game three in the first period they come back with three in the first period Last night and you're like, what the hell are they doing now? I thought nurse redeemed himself I thought he was really good. I was like, doing now? I thought nurse redeemed himself. I thought he was Like nurse yeah, nurse redeemed himself significantly Kane. I didn't notice a lot. You know as the game went on

But now you got a best two out of three and this is probably the way it should be like three thrilling games game three was obviously a throwaway Florida just pounced and Beat up on Edmonton. But we said yesterday it was a must win for the Oilers. They had to win. And they found a way to win and you shrink the series, best two out of three, home ice. They've been great at home. Again, Pickard starts game five. I don't know what your mini Jerry's is that you're going to see Skinner again at any point this playoff run.

I guess it's possible if Pickard gets shelved in the first that Skinner goes back in tomorrow night. It's just like 50%. It is wild that the two of them are just jockeying back and forth over a Stanley Cup run. It's crazy. It is. Well considering like we've seen it in previous years but you've seen one guy just grab it and go right like it was Gru Bauer before Holtby it was Scott Darling and then into Crawford it was Mark Andre Fleury into Matt Murray. Who was it before Aidan Hill? It was Aidan Hill took over in what was Larry Bressoir oh yeah Larry Bressoir Larry Larry Bressoir got hurt. But Hill took it and never looked back. This is is literally just a game of pickleball between these two. It is weird and this is where it's probably a bigger conversation after all the series

is over. Because I said to somebody this morning, actually I said to my mom, my mom's like, I feel so bad for that Stuart Skinner. And I was like, mom, you know, like it happens and we were talking about it. And and but I said, you know, you only talk about goaltending when you don't have it, like when there's uncertainty, like, you know, they're not talking about Bob letting in, you know, that was it. It wasn't a bad goal.

The noodles. No, but like you're beating him high like the pod Colson just goes above the pad. But I when I look at it, though, Jonas Jonas, he made so many unreal saves that you go, okay, if one squeaks through here, one squeaks. I sent the stats to you. The expected goals were 9.6 for Edmonton last night. They could have put up a 10 spot and they got five. They had some great opportunity like Bob made some unbelievable saves in the third and overtime.

Well even not McDavid. Exactly McDavid where he walks Echblad like that's a highlight real you know goal. It was but that wasn't even his best stop because McDavid was kind of getting checked like the one on Perry with his toe was unbelievable. Yes, it was. And he made a couple of like just crazy 10 bell stops and you know you're right Bob is not even a part of the conversation with Edmonton it will continue to be but we have to believe Pickard will start tomorrow night. But speaking of goaltending the awards you know they're kind of coming out of nowhere like I wasn't prepared yeah awards to be announced yesterday and we we saw something we haven't seen in about a decade and that is connor hellebuck wins the best uh... not unanimously

uh... also was the heart and kinda ran away with the heart trophy so he did what carrie price did back in the day i think this is the right play you know i don't have a vote neither obviously Obviously he was winning the Vezna clearly, but I thought he should have won the heart as well. But I'm just I'm just checking to see what I did. I did not have him first. Did you didn't? So both of you guys have a vote for the hearts. We do.

Okay, so I actually have no I did I had him at one, I had Dry Settle at two, Kucherov at three, McKinnon at four, Eichel at five. That's what I did. Okay. And those are, you can look them up. Like I'm not lying. And they're all in that ballpark. I believe it's published, right? It is, yeah. You can see who goes. Well, what did you have, Jonas? Off the top of my head, I had Dry Settle one, which I feel good about. I had, I think I went off the board with this one that you won't be happy. I had McCarr two 0-1, which I feel good about. I think I went off the board with this one that you won't be happy. I had Makar 2. Nazem Kadri.

No, I had Makar 2, best defenseman in the league. Then I had McKinnon 3. And then I had Kucherov 4, if I'm not mistaken. And I had Hellebuck 5. Okay. Listen, my thought on Hellebuck winning it was that i didn't think the other guys like career years and separation yeah compared to what they've done in the past rice and i got a slushy like

men and a pretty good boy and second and you know i was getting into a people last night online because you know credit to anthony stole ours who was unbelievable he got a second-place votes really from somebody to win the Vesta second James Myrtle he played would have been it he started playing 40 games yeah he played 34 games three we can find out who that was I believe the executives we don't vote on so we're now I don't know if we are gonna figure that out but you know unless it's tree-living I I guess we could try to set him a tree.

It could be. I mean, someone voted for their own guy. Of course. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't you? Listen, Stoller's had an unbelievable year. He led the league in save percentage, but 33 starts to me, you shouldn't even qualify for the conversation like vasilevsky started thirty more games

installers and had a safe percentage point zero zero five points less like he's basically the same safe percentage with thirty more starts to say nothing of logan thompson or darcy camper whoever so you know credit credit to store hours and if he had a started even just another ten games ten twelve fifteen then totally justified He's in the top three or top five, but that's not you know, the story the story is hella buck and how great he was Yeah, and you know the conversation about whether or not goalies, you know

Did he have a great enough year to win the heart? And I think he did I best player on the best team all year President's trophy unbelievable numbers started a million games and again, I don't think the other guys You know did enough compared to what they've done in the past Yeah, Kucharov's the McKinnon's the dry settles the McDavid's the Nick Suzuki's who got a first-place vote by someone out there Here's the heart G shocker. Someone had Nick Suzuki Number one to win the heart on their it. It's a Montreal scribe, obviously. Like it's not...

Like you get it. We can look that up too. He was unreal down the stretch. He was great. He was great. They're just our other players. Yeah, so were a lot of other players. I understand.

This is the thing. This is where... Jonas, I don't know how you feel about it, but this is... I think it's your duty if you vote. I take it very seriously and try not to be biased and go, okay, yeah, like I watch, you know, seven, 800 games a year. I watch the whole league.

And I don't really have a favorite team. I have favorite players and I have favorite, you know, guys that you want to see win and all of that type of stuff. But I don't have this allegiance. And it would be easy for me to cover the Ottawa Senators 50 games. Jake Sanderson, Norris, Tim Stootsla has got to be up. Instead of going, okay, let's take a look at the league. Let's dig in on numbers, impact, all of that type of stuff.

For somebody that's a Montreal scribe. Apparently, it's somewhat in Minnesota is what JP is trying to tell me. No way. I find that hard to believe. Cousin? Like who? It's not Michael Russo. Rick Suzuki from the Minnesota Star. But listen, in the nature of the award, incredibly valuable, very valuable to his team. The Habs were a shock team to make the playoffs. The most surprising team in the league to make the playoffs. And they did so in large part because of what Suzuki did the final 20 or 30 games. He was unbelievable. I could reason with like a third or fourth or fifth place vote. I wouldn't necessarily put them there, but I can reason with it. But to

suggest he was more valuable than Hallebacher dry subtle To me is is just absurd. You know it's great like McDavid didn't even get a first-place vote Which is justified shouldn't have like he doesn't wasn't the most valuable player this year Okay, but this guy's list we might have like I mean honestly I'm not gonna you guys can look up the name He goes Nick Suzuki Leon dry settle Nikita Kuturov Jack Ikel and Nico Heescher was his fifth pick. Nico Heescher okay two way center now in New Jersey. Yeah but that's something. I always like guys like to see the players. I like you see who the players vote You can't defend that Brian. No, there's no definite. There's no defining it. There's no defending it and I don't know

I don't know what I don't know what to tell you. I mean that guy that's just an absurd list. It's an absurd But I'm actually more I'm more offended by he sure at five than I have Suzuki at one. Yeah, exactly. We should take a step back. Nick Suzuki is an unbelievable player and he played amazing and had a career. They both are. But also you need context. I would love to hear this guy's context as to like how did you arrive at that?

Like, you know, how did you arrive at this list as you felt like like new jersey like stumbled into the playoffs maybe he was like okay there was no jack he was in the ended up you know that was a big part of injuries injuries injuries carried them home but i don't know what it is just i don't know again

that's why we have a brown awards right we do the loop you know brown words because a lot of voters just they don't make any sense uh... all right strides coming up in ten mike johnson will join us uh... you know if this there's this bit mitch marner reports and rumors going around

he's not coming back you know i don't know it's not news they get matters who is trying to report what it doesn't seem likely that martyrs going to be a maple leaf moving forward but you know what will discuss that with johnny and uh... you know we wait news on what's gonna happen to borrow said knives and others and jonas you can tell us about you know kinda what you see coming forward or

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opening line to the final score. Brian Hayes, Jamie Noodles, McClennan, Jonas Segal of the Athletic in here, Mike Johnson coming up. We're tracking the US Open, JJ Spahn out on the course, four under for the tournament. Thurston Lawrence course for under for the tournament Thurston Lawrence For under for the tournament. Yeah. Yeah, what a handle Thurston. I think I'm saying that right or is it Thurston even better? Thurston Lawrence I would prefer Thurston Thurston would be are you thirsty? I'm thirst now Gilligan's Island I'm I'm old enough to remember it you guys aren't but there was that show Gilligan's Island Yeah, Thurston Howell the third. All right, so maybe it should be Thurston. I'm going with Thursday and forget it

We're sticking with that first speaking of old school. Do you see that spaceballs to is coming out? They're making a space balls to and Rick Moran is coming out of retirement. He has enacted in 30 years Moranis is coming out of retirement. He hasn't acted in 30 years. I know. Rick Moranis. I just, you know what it is? I'll watch it, but it's a money grab. Of course, they all are. Happy Gilmore 2, all these old movies that were big 30, 40 years ago. Do you remember Dumb and Dumber came out? There was a Dumb and Dumber-er.

But the two guys weren't even in it, where it was Jim Carrey and Jeff Daniels, they weren't even in it and that was just a nightmare. And then they came out with Dumb and Dumber 2 and that was... Awful. That didn't go so well. It was horrible. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad.

It wasn't funny. They're too old now. You can't do it. The only sequels that I... I like Bonds, I like Mission Impossible's I like the the born series too like Jason What is your number one sequel of all time? Because there's a lot of good one Born supremacy like I would say born identity born supremacy like those I like the borns like those are so good

They're so good for me and like they are one of my favorite because I don't know like I always say Shawshank Redemption is one of my favorite it was don't know, like I always say Shawshank Redemption is one of my favorite. It was on the other day, I had to watch it. I don't know why, I've seen it a hundred times. I was still watching it. So the Borns I like because I feel like they, the plot is kind of the same. There's great action and I'm a big Matt Damon fan. I think he's cool.

So that's, I don't know. What other ones, what can you think of? Godfather part 2 is yeah it's always at the top of the list generally speaking Terminator 2 yeah Terminator 2 is really really good like that's a great twist you know like that's kind of what you need it like the same thing with the Godfather 2 where it's totally different it's about you know the next generation but also looking back on Vito you know life when he first gets to new york and all that kind of stuff same thing with terminator two like which works later shows up

and he's a good guy in terminator two it is wild see it is well it is such a great sarah carter yes eddie furlong members on that yeah bike like flying through the mall and everything. It's unbelievable scene. Great action. So I'm not holding my breath that Spaceballs 2 will be in the same category of kind of acceptance and excitement, but Rick Moranis, do you know that he used to be an old radio guy in Toronto?

Really? Yeah, he was like a top 40 guy at like CFTR back in the day. I know him from Honey, I Shrunk the Kids. Yeah, he was a big actor then. I believe, I want to say his wife passed away and he just said, I'm done. He stopped working. But he used to be a radio guy in Toronto. He was a star.

Like spinning hits, top 40 stuff back in the day. He was a star for me because I grew up on the sctv bandwagon sure it was john candy rick moran is martin short eugene levy katherine o'hara andrea martin like you go down the line like i like that and they would i know shot second city in toronto but they did some episodes i think i've told you that's it all the time they did them in ebbetson all the time like they were on Letterman I just saw this interview the other day come up on like my Reels or whatever and it was Joe Flaherty and John Candy talking about Edmonton like how they were filming in evidence

Billy's the model is key. He was always Yeah, I don't think they're in Toronto a lot like unless they were literally doing comedy and stuff here I think they started there. Yeah. Yeah my brother-in-law writing in Home Alone 2 great. Yeah, sequel Home Alone 2 is epic Outstanding sequel excellent. What about what about like see how back to the home? Oh, you back to the future pretty good. Yeah, solid future too. Pretty good I just with Home Alone didn't somebody didn't like a Surgeon or a doctor go through all of the things that that the injuries that could have been sustained This guy would add a concussion 400 times dude like bricks off the head of Mars head

Kills you immediately but the first brick kills you immediately Here's the scene in Home Alone 1 or maybe it's Home Alone 2 where he is literally a skeleton like you can see his skeleton that's how much he's been electrocuted and then he just gets up and chases him up the stairs it's brilliant alright here's a guy that i'm sure last night had full faith in the Eulers comeback through twenty minutes here's Jason Strudwick. Strudy, what were you saying to yourself after 20 minutes last night?

Well, it was insane. I mean, they couldn't have had a worse start. You know, okay, stand at Panley Box, get your feet moving. They did the opposite of that. And so I was actually at the watch party downtown with my kids. And I mean, it was packed, dude. The place was jammed, sold out, and the energy in there to start was packed. The place was jammed, sold out and the energy in there was great and then within 10 minutes it was gone. It was like not good at all. Kind of like noodles on a spin class, right? It goes in hot and it dies off. It was amazing. Then they started scoring again and they're like, what is going on? Why do they do everything so hard? The energy is crazy.

It's such a fun series. Such a great series. Well Strudy, this is the one thing, and you and I were texting a little bit. Have you ever seen the swings here? Not even just the swings as a team, but swings individually. Like Darnell Nurse should have taken his gear off after the first period and then he all of a sudden He's a world-beater in the second period. I you know, have you ever Seen this with individual players where it's like that guy was ridiculously bad and then all of a sudden he's

Unbelievable the rest of the game like I haven't seen it to that degree with players if under came the same thing I although I didn't think Kane had a great game, but I thought Nurse really responded. Yeah, so you look at Darnold Nurse, you take that penalty, you're down five on four. And I understand what he's trying to do. I think if I was that, I'd probably gone straight at him and not had my right leg on his left leg to clip him. You just kind of take him and kind of push him into the wall, get your stick around, hoping not to puck around. Well, steady clips the leg and down he goes.

And I get it, like he's trying to not look frustrated, but in that moment, I mean, that's a really tough penalty to take considering that Evander Kane just high-suck a guy for no reason and then a few short minutes later, Ekholm takes another one. So you go into that dressing room and you're probably thinking, man, I've got to get something going here. So you're looking for something good to happen and what's crazy is it probably comes off the guy who hasn't played. You know, Jeff Skinner, he finds, he goes and finds that puck, not a known grinder, but he grinds it out, is able to find the puck and ends up getting to nurse after, you

know, pretty quick order. And nurse also unlocks his game and scoring does help you, does get confidence. So everyone is different. You know, for some guys it's being physical, others winning draws or whatever, but it gets your game going. And I thought Darnell really got his game going. And what's, you know, if you're an Olders fan, can he now carry that through for another 180 minutes plus?

You know, can that, that confidence carry through his game? And you know, Vander Kane's not there. His game has dipped off since, you know, the last, let's say the last little while here. And he's got to find another gear because he can have an impact on this series. But you know, when you look at it, you know, last night the Stars of Florida,

really I thought had a good game, but there's been games where they haven't. And then same, you know, Conor McDavid last night, I thought was muted. And that's not like Conor McDavid where Leon was good. So it's so interesting to look game by game within a series how we have different players rising and falling in what they're bringing. Well you're right about McDavid I mean he had some moments but I was waiting for him to really get going and

it just it didn't seem to happen yet Dry Settle walks out of there with three points you know a primary assist on the first one where he set up Nugent Hopkins and then of course he gets the OT winner. The Gretzky-Messier years, it was Gretzky's the man, but Messier is this leader that's so clutch. Is that what we're seeing here again, Strudy, that Dry Settle, I guess what I'm asking is what is he building here legacy-wise? We keep focusing on McDavid Because he's got a chance at passing Crosby or Lemieux or maybe catching Gretzky and that's not the category dry settles in

But could he have a could he be considered a better player than Marc Messier in ten years? I guess that possible when his career is done Well, I mean I'd be insane if that's what happens, but you know, this is kind of when you're on a team with like a generational player, you kind of are a little bit under the gun or a little bit kind of hidden. I'm looking at a guy like Malkin in Pittsburgh and you know, he is an amazing player. And every other team in the league, he's a number one center except that one because you have Sidney Crosby. So I think that's similar here with Conor McDavid.

But I don't think Leon, I don't think that really bothers him. He just wants to win. He enjoys playing with his buddy when they're doing well. But the way he's playing right now is he's really doing a lot of good things out there. You know, he's scoring goals, he's getting things done, you know, five on five. He's playing with, it feels like a new linemate or two every time. Whoever wins the lottery that week and gets to play a Fleeon Drysidle, it feels like. I don't think he really cares.

He just wants to win. That's all he's driven by, is winning. His play has been elite, truly elite. I know he didn't win the Hard Trophy. I think I would, I don't have a vote obviously, obviously but he was close I thought he could have got if you maybe played those 10 extra games maybe he gets it but he has been the best player in the league this year and that counts 97 who sits beside him in the room well Hayes I think what you're getting at and maybe I'll study before I make you mad

is he the greatest sidekick in NHL history? That's the question, man. Because I wrote down some other ones I had Jagger, Messier, Forsberg, Malkin were the ones that like just popped into my head. You can make a case. He's right there. I mean, if he continues on those other guys have had the the personal success with cups and all of that. But like the hardware like, you know Dry Cytles, what is he at? He has two Rockets now?

Is that two? Yeah, a couple Rockets, one hard. Yeah, he's been in the hard chase a couple different times. Art Ross? Absolutely. I mean, did he do basically another question I think within the realm of this cup final is he neck and neck with McDavid now for the cons wife If the Oilers win, how do you see that plan out strut?

Well, one other one other do would be Jamie McClendon to Roman Turek You know, it only took four minutes to bring up his Jennings trophy. I see it all the time. We know you won the Jennings. I technically didn't win. I didn't play enough games. They didn't give me a trophy. I asked for a trophy, they're like, no, you didn't play enough games.

Sorry, buddy. Denied. Denied the Jennings. It's because you still owed money. You still owe the league money for that dirty slash in the playoffs, right? play enough games sorry buddy but i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i had a plan after i got to pay that fine like the library can't get any more books

out exactly uh... exactly uh... you know what guys i i i think we are we are just been so good for this group and i and i can only think so in different ways but i would throw a dark horse that you and this is insane i mean when i say this but you can cal pickard could even get some votes

the way he played without him he'd they're not here without his place they're not where they're at right now he never loses although someone made a great point last night technically skinner still has never lost a game four because it was just last night that's true that is true he's great in game four because they didn't lose last night. That's true. That is true. He's great in game fours.

But yeah, I think Pickard, you know, if you're doing a pecking order, it feels like McDavid Drysad will probably boost Schardt. It would have to be in that. And then it probably is Pickard, like of the, you know, the MVPs of the run, so to speak. And yet last night, you know, I thought what was necessary and important to match what Florida seemingly does every night is you need depth? And it's pod Colson scoring its wallman scoring a big goal Darnall nurse with a beauty like you get two goals from the point and then a goal from pod Colson That's gonna put you in a really good spot strut and that's what happened last night

well, you know, they talked about maybe the steps going for the orders have gone away and listen, Florida is a good team. Maybe we all, me included, I thought the order was in five. That looks unlikely at this point, but you know, when you look at the whole situation and the way that Florida, they're a really deep and good team. And the impact of Marchand, it just cannot be over or under or overlooked. He's been so important to stabilize that kind of that middle six or I guess, you know, the bottom six.

But the orders are finding a way to get it done. It's not always pretty. And that's the challenge, I think, for this group. Get out of your own way. Get out of your own way. You know, that the penalties, you know, trying to be a little bit too fancy on the breakouts, get that puck and get it up the ice as quick as you can. Maybe you have to use the glass. Just wait for Florida to make a mistake because that's what they're doing to you. So how do they get out of their

own way and can they do that right away tomorrow night in Edmonton. So Stroud, you know, Chris Knobloch had some adjustments, you know, the goalie pull I thought, you know, it ended up working out obviously because Pickard comes in and, you know, slams the door, does a good enough job, makes some big saves at the right time. You know, the Stetcher, it didn't work out. I mean, Stetcher, you know, had a tough shift and I think he had like two shifts after that the rest of the game. Do you think there'll be adjustments for tomorrow's game, obviously on home ice?

Would Stetcher come out for Klingberg where you could protect them on home ice with the last change type of thing or you just roll the same lineup? Well, we'll start up front and I think that Jeff Skinner stays in and I truly feel guys that this player is gonna have a moment in this and now he's got you know he didn't get an assist last night I don't think but he was you know the reason that they scored that goal nurses goal but he's gonna have a moment so I leave him in there for Arbittson on the back end Stetcher comes out I put Klingberg in the orders can play with

5d all those five guys can play north of 20 minutes so that's that's not the issue, but I want to have that extra layer of guys that if I need to, I can use them. So I think Klingberg can come in and he's played good moments, good minutes for this team, but you're right. I think he shouts them a little bit more when he goes through. On the back end, I think it's clear it's Pickard, goes in the net, but they really miss Hyman, which is a fairly obvious statement because they're looking for someone to be played it see beside Connor and Nudes and Connor Brown last night was there and you know

his game I think he maybe he's fighting an injury there's a nagging injury there but they don't really have anybody there that fits so that is the spot I'm looking for who'd he put there and then what about a Vander Cane? Cane's games dipped off does he play beside Leon they put Paul Coles in up there a bit. But do you want Kane to break up the line? The line I thought was great was Fredrick, Henrik and Skinner. That was a really good line. I said, I want to break that line up. So, you know, I think this is where they're really missing Hyman and I'm not saying if they had him it'd be a slam dunk, but the line is just set up easier when he is there unfortunately don't they got to figure out maybe Brown stays up there

I think David Strutty was Taylor Swift at the Spangler Cup gold medal game or or what? I think she was too. I don't think she was she was old enough, but she's heard the legend She's heard the whispers around, you know When she rolled through Switzerland, they were still talking about that silver medal that you picked up. Silver medals hanging in the rafters of the Strudwick jersey. Well, let's hope she's in Edmonton. If she is, who's the bigger deal out there, you think, Taylor Swift or Noodles being back

home? Noodles I love our noodles find a way to come home for a work trip. That's amazing I kind of that even But that even we're talking about like Wednesday. Have you been a while other guy? Here's the here's the other thing Stretty There's another guy who's supposed to be on the panel, but you know, he's the panel but uh... you know he's not even on a daily basis to write a new article that i thought this one at the end of the day that we could get him out of bed this afternoon so yeah i don't know if you're

going to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to spread water he was tired of the big tweet about ten people send me a tweet where he wrote that's it you know and i i i i i'd like to have him i'd be right and then it came back, I don't want to respond. I don't want to respond. I don't want to jinx it. So that was a great one. That's it. Just a minimalist.

It's over. But then he had the follow-up where he goes, I was hacked. I loved it. Did he say that? Yeah. Got to play that role. He goes, sorry, sorry, account was hacked. It was hilarious. Back on the Arliss Believe trade.

Alright, Strudy, enjoy it tomorrow night. Thanks for doing this. Noodles don't work too hard tomorrow. I know, what do you got, about a four minute panel for a five day trip? Well, listen, I'm waiting for you to buy me lunch though. I don't want to... We've talked about this before you invented copper wire by stretching a penny So I'm gonna have to buy you lunch

You kind of my son's like football tournament gonna be I just bought him a mouse card looks like a your cake is so big Alright strut have fun with that Likewise Alright Strud, have fun with that. Thanks buddy. Happy Father's Day. Likewise. See you boys. Alright, there he is, Jason Strudwick. Father's Day weekend out there too. That'll be good tomorrow night. Alright, so we've got Mike Johnson coming up and there's some rumors flying around about

the Leafs and there's some big news pertaining to the voice of the Maple Leafs. We'll get into that as well. Jonas is in here, Jamie Noodles-McClennan, I'm Brian Hayes, Overdrive Continues, TSN 1050N on TSN2. Are you age 16 to 30 and ready to make a real impact? The Youth Thrive Program, funded by Canada Service Corps and delivered by the Career Foundation, is your chance to develop leadership skills, connect with mentors, and gain real world experience, all while giving back to your community. Best of all, it's a no-cost program available across Ontario, Nova Scotia, Alberta, and BC. Thoughts are limited, so register now at careerfoundation.com. That's careerfoundation.com. Join today and be part of something amazing.

All right, so the projected cut line at the US Open is 6 over par, which if that's the case, you know it looks like a lot of Canadians are going to get into the weekend. Corey Connors is at 6 over, Mackenzie Hughes at 5 over, he's in, Nick Taylor 4 over, Pendreth is 3 over still on the course. So we might get all 4 Canadians into the weekend which would be great. We'll track that. We've got Jay's Phillies tonight down in Philly. Mike Johnson in about 15 minutes but a good friend Joe Bone announced this morning

that next year will be his final season behind the mic as the voice of the Maple Leafs which is just incredible. That'll be 45 years as the voice of the team. Farewell Tour, eh? 45 years as the farewell tour a Farewell tour. That's it bones II. He's called. I think he wrote over 3800 games Which is just a remarkable career and I mean, that's my whole life growing up in Toronto I've never heard anyone else like I've heard other people call some games, you know, but he didn't miss many Like I don't I don't think he's missed many over the course of his career in terms of play by play on the radio and Voice of a team Yeah, I feel like the only games he's ever missed is to go see Green Bay play or the Fighting Irish

He did that earlier this year. He's like, yeah, we're going to see the championship game and Notre Dame was playing the Rose Bowl or something He just he's like I'm out of here, which I can appreciate. But yeah, he's, you know, he is as synonymous with the team as, as almost any, any player I can think of. Like when you think of like the Maples for the last 40 years throughout my life, the first names that would come to mind would be like the Wendell Clarks and the Doug Gilmour's and the Matt Sundeans and Austin Matthews and Joe Bowen I mean Bowen is really not far behind any of those guys and it speaks to

the connection he has with the fans and how great he's been forever and next year is gonna be a Bittersweet it'll be a celebrated celebrated year as it should be It'll be an amazing year to hear him call all those games and hopefully the Leafs can actually Do something special for him that would be nice But yeah, congrats to Bonesy on the announcement and we're gonna get him on Probably in the fall of them on a bunch and we can't wait for that It'd be great. I mean, yeah, he's a legend and and certainly that's the hardest part is the next person in like that's And certainly that's the hardest part is the next person in like that's huge Phil shoes to fill like you Yeah, it's following Johnny Carson. Basically. I mean, yeah, that's kind of what it is

So I guess John Jay Leno had a good run You know, I did they had a good one Jay kind of Seward Conan O'Brien So keep your eyes on whoever the next guy is. He's shift exactly whoever takes over for Joe Bones a shifty shifty character yeah but you're right tough tough shoes to fill needless to say but luckily for Lee fans and for us we don't have to worry about that right because next year Bones he'll still be calling games yeah so there you go Jonas got anything on that you've been here you know Joe pretty well I do I do know Joe very well Like it's just unique to be able to be like a synonymous voice with a team. Like I think like Vince Scully, you know what I mean?

Like there's some people you just associate with a team, you associate Joe with the Leafs and that's pretty special. Absolutely, yep absolutely. And you know we'll see what the Leafs have in store. There's I guess Andy Strickland, I don't know how he would have had the report today that Mitch Marner, he can report and confirm is not returning to the Leafs. He's probably tight with the agent. That's what I would think. Like, you know, Andy's pretty, I will say he's pretty dialed in.

He's a good reporter. I'm not disputing that. I'm just saying he's the one that I guess has jumped out in front of the line and said that it's defined like Marner's not coming back. Now that can be seen both ways. That doesn't mean it's only Mitch has decided. It could be the Leafs. We're not bringing you back.

It could be a two-way street even if you want to return, you're not. But we'll get more into this with Mike Johnson coming up and what it's going to look. And the Marner legacy again, it's too raw right now to talk about it. You know, like what it's going to be long term. We had the discussion last week, you know, you got to wait 10, 15, 20 years before you really look back on it. But it's going to be strange because, you know, like Joe Bowen, Mitch Marner has been synonymous with the Leafs for a long time, you know, nine straight years where he's played basically every night and been a great player and local guy and people have connected to him. There's a lot of Marner jerseys out there and It doesn't seem as if he's gonna play for the Leafs again

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