OverDrive - OverDrive - June 16, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jonas Siegel for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Panthers' domination and the lead in the Stanley Cup Final, the winning construction of Florida's roster, Sam Bennett's role for the team and free agents that would fit the Maple Leafs. They also dive into Rafael Devers' massive trade to the Giants, J.J. Spaun's incredible putt to win the U.S. Open and O-Dog and Jonas being attacked by a bird in the streets of Toronto.

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How we doing? How we feeling? Gentlemen, let's of the athletic. How are we doing? How are we feeling? Let's be the best and I mean the best C-list celebrities we can be because yesterday I was golfing with my man DP the champ, the stinger, the 275 yards stinger and on the 18T he was talking about we were in a deep conversation about people being humble and Like not kind of acting like big league and people and right before he hit his golf ball He looked at me and he said you and Hayes understand your barely seeless celebrities And that's why people like you and I was like I kind of shook my head, but I was like

Yeah, just a kick in the pill like it hurt It hurts. I mean you could have said be like anything is pretty no the list is actually very good Don't get me wrong I think you should be more insulted than I should like you played for the Leafs and like if you're a Maple Leaf alumni That has to put you at a B list I think in Canada permanently I think Jonas what do you but let me just come with the kicker Yeah He looked down at the ball back up at me and said like dead serious like this guy is a serious dude He's a money dude like he's just he's totally totally legit

And he said you guys are nothing and you know it and I was like And that's why people like us. I don't like us because I'm self-esteem Those are the two things he said and then at the end like five minutes later. He made a birdie and shook my hand He goes great playing with you. I'm like great playing with you. Thanks, man. Nice. Nice party on 18 there Yes, here's the ruling. I don't us. What are we? What do you think people think we are in Canada? I think you are like a minus B plus and I think Hayes you're like B minus C plus. I think I'm appropriately in the same show. Yes. 40 goals. Yeah. You want a world junior goal. Like I'll grant you that know world junior goal doesn't influence your status I'm it does it does because you've been in the limelight longer than I have that in other words when you're 18 people knew

Who you were that's a long time ago. I am NOT in that same alphabetical category See is fine. I'll take see see gets your life places. You're like in the Adam Sandler group you're like David Spade yeah that's kind of like Chris Rock or like I think you say Farley you wanted to say Farley and you stopped yourself you and I'll go Chris Rock instead farly at one point if the listeners or viewers want to get involved go ahead and for the three of us on today's show, give us the comparisons of what we are celebrity-wide. The three of Jonas, you're going to get absolutely rinsed on this one. No, you'll get a lot. I think you're in the alphabet there somewhere, Jonas.

Like, you're a public figure that people are very, very familiar with. No, you're not even close to that. No way. Not even close. That's disrespectful. Don't say that. That's not funny. If me and Hazy are bees, you're a C-list celeb. I think so too. I'm being genuine when I say that because you cover the Leafs and you've covered them for a long time. Everyone that knows the Leafs knows Jonas. That's street cred. Yes. But that's the truth. If you're a Leaf fan of the last 15 years, you know Jonas and you've read something or you've seen something

heard something more than likely they totally agreed with all of it of course right totally just talking before the show we had all these agreements it was unbelievable which do you want to start with the Mika Zabinejad disagreement that you and I had 100% are you willing to say what on the air 100% I will say exactly what I said okay Okay, say it. Okay before I get to this I'm in no mood for Zemmika Zabaniyajad's Hold on a second. So go ahead Jonas go ahead with Mika Zabaniyajad. It's deeper and crazier than you think I'm talking verbatim what you said out there. Are you willing to do that? I don't know what you're referring to but yeah, say it to Jeff O'Neil. Who would you rather be on the Leafs Mika Zabaniyajad say it to Jeff O'Neill. Who would you rather be on the Leafs? Mika Zabinajad versus someone else?

So we were talking, I don't know how it came up, but we said something about Zabinajad being a fit for the Leafs. I wrote that I think he should be theoretically. And I said like Zabinajad for five more years at eight and a half is preferable maybe to Sam Bennett at ten and a half. I don't know if the context of the contract was there. I think it was. It was. 100%. You would prefer Sam Bennett over Sam Bennett. For the contract he's going to get. That's what I came over the top. Oh, you were. You were. Are you insane? You would take me because of it on the ground. You were. If he was up, do you remember the old school DDT move wrestling? I would have DDT'd you in the hallway in front of our radio studio. So answer that question. Let's say it's 10. 10 times 7.

For Sam Bennett. Versus 8.5 times 5. For Mikas Abinashad. I think about it, but I'd probably take I probably I'm taking Sam Bennett every single time And I'm not even contemplating this conversation If we're talking about DNA like different DNA, yeah That's just removing the DNA that's around and putting it in someone else who basically already has it and then bringing him into the roster. Sorry No way

Jose no way This guy had 90 points couple years ago he did yes He did he was with Sam Benes career high in the regular season or in the playoffs because I think he's got 15 goals right now Is this a regular? I like I like better. I like Sam Bennett because I think he's got 15 goals right now is this a regular I like I like better I like Sam Bennett I think the contract I think it's gonna be crazy I have Rangers Florida Panthers yes a couple years that was last year and the biggest Rangers Achilles you like do you know what one of their problems was n Nick is advantage. I just couldn't get cooking wasn't like he had the wrong DNA and that's like he was

My just like you know what you know what's gonna get overrated here DNA. You know, it's good talent and now Bennett's talented But you you risk getting a little too intangibly and not having enough Tangible I think clearly you want a combination of both. I hear what you're saying, but that's always the cop out. And it used to be the cop out when Burke was here and Nones was here that there's too much on that. And then they swung the other way for nine years. And what has it done for the Leafs?

What about a combination? At least their teams were good. What about a combination? Sam Bennett is skilled. He works hard. Matthew Kachuk, skilled, works hard. Barkovov very skilled, difficult to play against in a different way. Aaron Ackblad very skilled, got a chip on his shoulder, very dirty, very competitive.

Seth Jones competitive. Like Mikhala, skilled guy, depth defenseman, but he likes to piss people off. It's just a it's a mixture and that's what the Panthers have. I don't think, moving forward, look, I can't believe I'm this pissed off five minutes into this show. Five minutes! You're looking for players that have an edge to them.

Obviously you want talent. You want a bunch of stiffs out there running around that just hit and fight and do whatever. We've seen what that does. It does nothing. You need a combination. But the most of all you need to turn and you need to turn in players Like you look at the Florida Panthers to go into Edmonton and win that game that game five

Like you got to have some stones to pull that one off some Determination to come back to bounce back to be down. Oh to to come back to be down in game five or game What was it game 4 is it game 4 now that was Edmonton there sorry game 3 Leafs Toronto you're talking about the series yes yeah down 3-1 down in the series and down in that game to come back like they got some resilience they got some jam so I think that's what we're talking about to say you just want one of anything it's just ridiculous yes they're both extremes on both ends now what I think that's what we're talking about. To say you just want one of anything, is just ridiculous.

Yes, they're both extremes on both ends. Now, what I think is gonna be interesting is not the intangible stuff, is more so what you talked about when you separate regular season from playoffs. Yeah, it's the hardest thing. And this is what is gonna be difficult because there are a lot of guys

who are really good regular season players. Really good and will help you make the playoffs. But what they have proven is that they can't elevate and change when the game changes because the truth is, as we've seen year after year through the existence of the league, the game is played differently in the playoffs. So that's the line, that's what you have to find out.

That's the most difficult balance is how do you find the guys who are capable and you know, people scoff at Bennett? Well, he's only put up 50 points. I brought up this stat earlier this year, which was fascinating to me now Vegas has not been around forever But Jack Eichel established a team record for points in a regular season and it was like 89 points And and what I found fascinating about that is no one cares about individual success. In Vegas it's about can you put a team

together that's capable of winning and they've done that the second they step in the league. Where in Toronto and a lot of other places it's well this you got to get this guy because he scores 50 or that guy that scores a hundred. Far too often it just that becomes the imbalance as you focus on the individual regular season success and that's why contracts get carried away and that's why guys get paid and have this inflated sense of worth and possibly expectation in terms of what they should be getting where I'm just really curious if this will be against state tax. There's

a lot of it's complicated. There's a lot of, it's complicated. There's a lot of complications that come into building a team. But if Florida and Vegas and these other winning teams, what they've, the message they're really sending is like the individual regular season success story is not worth as much as you think it is. But then how do you? Look at those LA teams. Look at those LA teams. Look at those LA teams. Like they...

You talk about the balance of skill and grittiness or however you want to describe it. Those LA King teams, like they never like blew everybody away and like was the Western confident. They played a game that didn't like beat everybody up in the regular season, but guess what? Come playoff time? Very dangerous. I feel like there's some revisionist history going on here in which way because I recall arguing with you two mightily during this past

regular season when you guys were telling me they're different they're playing a playoff style and I was like are they and then what happened well they choked in game seven game five five and game seven. Okay. And that's what happened. Four goals in the last four games. Okay. I don't know. That's so that's that's always letting the hill that you've died on. No, it's that they don't score enough. They literally didn't score.

But then who's responsible for that? And this is where lots of getting into the fork in the lots of people where I look at the four or five best players who get paid the most. I do too. They should have a big. I do too. And then it's always like well Scott Lotton didn't score It's like well, he got it. That would have been great Literally five of their bottom six four words didn't score at all right playoffs, but then you look at the other night I agree again big game pivotal game our chance to Bennett Reinhardt. That's the game. They're starting a hundred percent superstar players

Let me ask you another thing Jeff. Let me ask you this How much do you think playoff success carries over team to team year to year like if you're if you're in that front office in Toronto how do you evaluate if we take this player from this team and put them on our team is that gonna translate cuz like Bennett probably isn't coming here like he probably doesn't want to come here doesn't seem like it but I wonder if he did does it carry over when suddenly he's asked to do a little bit more and he's not as...

Oh, there's all kinds of examples of a guy that had a playoff run and he goes to a different team where it's like another team says, we just got to have that. And then they go and he's put in a place where the expectations are too great and they're asked to be a player that they're not and it doesn't work out. That's every year. Every July 1st somebody steps up says I'm going to pay this guy and hope that he comes to our organization and does that. And guess what a lot of times it just doesn't happen. But I'll tell you one thing you talk about playoffs like Florida Panthers within their team. They just say every year we got to get in and we'll have

a chance to win the cup. That's the mode they're in right now. Just we need. You know what they didn't even care about the last 10 games. They didn't care about starting on the road. They didn't care. They just had to get in because they knew that their team, the way the players, their mindsets are and the way they're built and how good they are and how hungry they are that they were going to be competitive and give themselves a chance to win. I would agree with that. I think I would add just watching the game the other night, they have a lot of talent. Like they agree with that. I think I would add, just watching the game the other night, they have a lot of talent.

They're more talented. Oh yeah, they're loaded. They're more talented than Edmonton, especially without Zach Hyman. They're loaded. They just have a lot of good players. They're a great, great team, of course. And listen, we're talking about an extreme here with Florida.

They could be on the verge of catapulting themselves into the all-time great team conversations like legitimately could be doing that and I would argue that they're already here but certainly if they're a win away from officially being defined as the most feared team of the cap era because what O just said and I think what happened last year like there's been some really good teams, right? The Chicago pitch, Chicago team, the Pittsburgh teams, the Tampa teams, the LA teams. I don't recall, and this could be revisionist history, but I don't recall going into seasons

where I was like, it's a formality that team's going to win. Like that just feels like the team that's going to win. They were maybe favored. Florida last year felt like that. And this year all year, it just felt like they were toying with people and when they got there they were going to do this. And they've done it again. They're the best team in the league. They have terrorized teams, dismantled teams, cost people their jobs. Brendan Shanahan is gone because of what happened in game five and game seven. And now this DNA topic is hovering around the leaves.

Carolina completely dismantled, like to the point where they're like we have to revisit who we are what we're doing where we're going. They're in a conference final and Florida just snatched them. Same thing could happen here with Edmonton. If they beat Edmonton and dismantle them tomorrow when the dust settles you're gonna look it back on the series and say Florida dominated dominated three times and the ones that Edmonton won, they were like almost miracle breaks. I think the stat is like Florida's led for like 200 minutes.

Edmonton's led for like 30 minutes of the series. That's a scary stat. Exactly. I'm not like, I'm that nitpicker stack guy, but then I saw that one. That says a lot, man. Edmonton has barely been in the driver's seat now to their credit They're still alive and we'll get into this over the next few hours But what Florida has built and who they are and how they play and what oh just said about the way they

Like they they to me and this is somewhat shocking and this isn't intangible. It's not something I can put a number on They feel as hungry to win as Edmonton does. And I thought that was impossible. And you know what? I thought that was impossible, but I actually believe they're just as hungry as the team that's never won. Well, and their front office is never satisfied. Like, look what they did this past season. They go out and they trade for Seth Jones.

Like they traded for Seth Jones? Yeah, they traded for Seth Jones. And then they're like, you know what we're going to get do? We're going to get Brad Marchand. You know what I mean? Like they're just, and here, like we've been saying it for how many years, well they're gonna do it again? And Florida's like no we're gonna keep changing it, we're gonna trade Huberto, we're gonna get, you know what I mean? Oh they kept going and going and going and listen the guys that they have

and the guys that they can believe in, that's big and you know like Bennett's a big part of that. Like Canada announced their six players that are going to the Olympics and every nation's doing this. Reinhardt was on that list, I'm not surprised. You know he didn't have a great four nations memory moved around the lineup quite at times in the playoffs, too But he's so crafty so good. He's you know second in the selk. He can play with great players Bennett there's a very good chance. He's on that Canadian thing. He's probably a lock So there you go, and that then that's the point But if he's a and this is I guess what I'm you're not alone in saying this but everyone's like 50 points and he's a lock for Canada

So what does that say about who he is? Yeah, but and what he's worth It's not a lot to make some place like the point getter a lock. Yeah, it's good. It's tough I know you're saying and it's tough to like I couldn't think of many examples of a player whose value is so tied to the playoffs Like it's just hard to figure out he's never scored 30 goals Hmm and so like I wonder if you put a 50-point player like how does that affect your team you have to I don't know It's just complicated. I don't know Yeah, yeah, you'd be a 12 or 13 for he's playing a different role Of course if you're a if you were a team like the Leafs because I think I was having this conversation with

somebody it might have been Duffy where it was like he was talking about the regular season points and he never puts up like dynamic numbers and he's more known as the playoff guy and then it got to what team would really want that it was like well the Leafs would want that so if you were the Leafs wouldn't you pay for that if that's the one element of his game you desperately need to play devil's advocate it's just so risky to assume that that's gonna carry over and like if it doesn't suddenly you've got a 40-point center in a couple years who who just is okay in the playoffs then what you know what I mean like it puts so much pressure on him to be this every

playoffs yes and like this that's valid This is probably not this is go. Oh, of course last year was great. He's scoring literally every game, right? Like I think anything after two or three years, I think any decisions after two or three years Like whatever happens after two or three years That's that's probably gonna be somebody else's problem like Austin Matthews has got three years left here And that's probably the window, wouldn't you think? Yeah. Well, like next year, two years after that, and that's kind of your window because God knows what's going to happen to him. I don't know if it would be like automatic. Austin Matthews is going to resign again. So I think you're looking, that's what you're looking for. So to say something like, Oh,

a couple of years down the road, you might have a Ford a couple of years down the road is all that's going to be, you know what down the road, you might have a 40, a couple years down the road is all that's gonna be. But you know what, Jeff? Like, you might have a 40 point player next year. Like, I don't know. And then it's like, can he do this again in the playoffs for the Leafs where it's like, there's no Lundell, there's no, I mean, there's no Barkov.

Well, that's another thing. Matthew's like, he's not playing with Kachuk and Verhage or, you know, like his linemates are also, there's a lot of factors. Of course, and that's a big part of it. It probably doesn't matter. Right now, it's probably a moot point with Bennett going anywhere other than Florida, but he fits there because he can trust everyone else around him to pull their weight.

That's another big part of any championship team and looking at an individual's role in that. It's, you know, the guy's going to play 18 minutes, you know, for 42 minutes of the game. Someone else is out there that's got to pull their weight. And if he's having an off game or off couple of games someone else's got a pop-up so that doesn't become a story answer this like is he one of the but i was thinking about this because i've been thinking about him as a possibility

is he one of their five best players sam bennett forget about like just it's hard because the playoffs is so well that's the whole piece he wanted their lives competition i mean you go barkov reinhart kichok in front of me and bob act lad for sling probably feel or sling

yeah i mean i mean if you may not be see might be in fifth or sixth like he's in that car that i get into what's in toronto well i'd be behind paulson matthews neanderthal they else yeah eyes Well, he'd be behind Austin. Mathews, Nylander. Anybody else? Nice? He's probably better. He's probably better. I don't know.

And he's probably better than Tanev. You know what I mean? Like it's just different. Yeah. No, I get it. And, um... The problem is like they... That's what makes, you know, any...

It's a risk. Anytime you sign any... And Florida's making the same risk. Like if they... They're keeping the band together as they probably should, but some point it's gonna fizzle out like everything's breaking their way right now and they've earned it like they are just a great team they're better than Edmonton yeah like the game the other night it's just a wild game like it's a game five swing game and they they kept on Edmonton had three

shots in the first period buildings exploding during the anthems and Florida just said not tonight. I love that about them like we always talk about all the other team didn't have this so they didn't have that and obviously looking back on it we gave it to the Leafs on their performances in game five and seven but they will lock it down and shut you down and make you look like crap better than any team I've seen in the last ten years. Yeah, well, and that's, I guess that's what I'm getting to in terms of how terrifying they are and like what they represent, how tough they are to beat, how many different

waves come at you. They'll punch you and they'll make you look soft, they'll make you look disinterested, they'll make you look unprepared. Like there's all these different things that Florida applies to their opponent that just are such like wounds to any athlete or any team or any manager or any coach when they're trying to define who their team is because they basically just bring out the worst in their opponent like that's how good they are like they like you look at McDavid and we've got a clip we'll come back and get into it and where he stands on this

He was completely pushed out of the game the other night Like that's Connor McDavid on home ice game five of the cup final and he blended into the game for the most part Played 25 minutes played a lot of minutes scored a beautiful goal that turned out to be meaningless because Reinhardt scored Less than a minute later. It's 4-1 and the lights are out. But to your earlier point, they're so dependent on those two guys to produce. Yeah. Edmonton certainly is in Bouchard and listen, they were getting it from Kane and Perry at times and their power play didn't come through.

They had three great three chances early and they couldn't get on the board. That's kind of what I like about the Florida Panthers guys. We've seen him with the Leafs and we talk about how good those guys are at Edmonton. And they're not like down and out, but they're up against it going into Florida. But the Florida Panthers are just the best team. And that must be like, if we did Overdrive Florida,

would be great to talk about the team. Yes. Instead of like individuals and contracts. Wouldn't it make you so sick though, Jeff? Like if you were with the Leafs right now and you go back to game three and you're up three one, it's like, you know, like you win that game and you're probably through and.

Well, that's it. I mean, the Leafs, they had that opportunity and I'm and truly we brought that up in his presser that not enough people were talking about game three. The killer. Very reasonable. Game 5 and 7 were so deflating and so awful and listen Florida was great but the Leafs were horrible.

But game 3 the Leafs were in the driver's seat man. Nye scores like 30 seconds in. You're up 3-1 in that. You put a nail in their coffin right there. You win that you're winning the series. Game 6 could hit Toronto tomorrow night. Yeah. Like it really could be. We could be covering. Gannagans here, who knows.

And Marner's probably coming back. Maybe. Maybe they don't know. Maybe not even that would find a way to keep Mitch around. Alright, more on that. More on McDavid and his stance going into tomorrow night. We had some crazy news in baseball and golf over the weekend we get game five the

nba finals tonight the chase got pumped down in philly they're off today back in action tomorrow i warned you you were all gone home and i a d s of the phillies are a great team and i think they are great to you they they will have a little jay got pumped out they got pumped they they did they lost three straight the aggregate was out of control it wasn't control. It wasn't a good series. I like that word. The aggregate? I'm learning, Jonas. That's why I'm a C-level. I might be a B-level celebrity

based on language alone in different kind of terms I'm trying to incorporate here. All right, Jonas Siegel's in here, the O-Dog Jeff on the on, Brian Hayes. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050N on TSN 4. Alright, Overdrive continues powered by Fanduo bringing you everything from the opening line of the final score, Bruce Boudreaux in about a half an hour, Ryan Dempster on the Rafael Devers trade, Boston to the Giants and Otani making his debut on a mound tonight, which is big. Also the Jays, again, getting pumped,

swept down in Philly. But 38 and 33, still chasing that wild card. They're in a wild card spot right now. What the hell with the Red Sox? I just don't understand that. You gave that guy all that money the face of your franchise, and then you brought in Bregman. Bregman was basically sitting on some kind of high-end scrap heap in the summer and you said All right, come on over and then all of a sudden you start slapping around the face of your franchise saying you're not playing there You're going like I don't know Maybe they did it

Maybe they saw something they didn't like and they did it on purpose to say this is how it's gonna piss them off And this is our way out of this. That's all I can think of. That is a deep deep thought. I kind of like that because there I do think there's a number of possible things at play here. The Fenway group there's some concern that they're either losing money or trying to get out right they invested big in the PGA Tour there's all these rumors that they're gonna try to you out of pittsburgh they on the penguins maybe get out of the roads red socks i doubt it but to some capacity of pop money and nba expansion which we think is coming

in the future there's a lot of different balls in the air as relates to devors now i do think it got to a point where it was untenable moving for his devors was becoming such a pain in the ass around there but i think they created that many ways no care if i had a good stuff my conspiracy theory is they saw something that they didn't like and i don't know who the person was that saw it it was probably somebody smart

well we're going to find out how smart they are and they said we've got to find a way to make this guy insufferable where it's just like healthy scratching a defenseman where it's like, no you're not, then all of a sudden he just says, get me the hell out of here. Like they might have did it to say, we're gonna piss this guy off so much, we will make him insufferable

and both sides will say that's it. Well, I don't know. Yeah, it does sound as if Devers effectively gave them that ultimatum. Like, you know, either start doing, treating me this way or I want out want out. Um, and you know, they traded them and some people are comparing it to Mookie Betts. It's not cause Mookie is Mookie Betts. Like one's way, way, way, way worse. And all that was was simply money.

Yes. Like they just were not going to pay. And then they took the money and just gave it to Devers. Yeah. More or less, more or less exactly.. At that time, you were gonna have to give him 300 million or something like that, and that's what Devers ended up getting. Wasn't there one more high-priced talent that's moved on? Like, if somebody sent out a tweet. But that one actually worked out,

because he's not good. Yeah, he went to San Diego. No, I know, but somebody sent out the tweet. They were saying, Mookie Betts, Devers, and Bogarts, if somebody had told me this would be the end of the line, I would have said you're absolutely insane yeah well they all went to california

right san diego the dodgers and and now the giants the movie that's one is the crazy that's all high-end group like yes like the original is obviously them trading paper to the yankees and in the course of the band you know all that possibly what Betts represents to the modern Red Sox fan. Now Devers is different, but he's 28, he can mash, he's putting up good numbers like he does basically every year, like he can hit. But I'm guessing like, so they try to get him to play third, he's like, I don't want to, or no, they had him take, Bregman takes his spot

at third, he's like, I don't want to play first, so like, okay. He was immediately aggravated with everything that Bregman. And then Tr they're interested causes their first baseman gets her know i can you play first and it's like no and so suddenly it's like is is going to be a d h for the next eight years that's like how good kit can you be on that contract is a d h for the next eight years i got well and that's the thing you look at and baseball's the king of the numbers

in the end of the numbers and the analytics Yeah, and his contract actions are not great. His contract has been labeled as you know He's underperforming the deal and the contract is underwater quote-unquote like it's a big baseball term But then get something like do this in the offseason gets like they didn't get anything But what they got was completely off the books of the money, right? And that and that's the thing the Gi are like, we'll take on every penny, but we're not going to give you that much in return. And they just swept the Yankees.

And they're a game above 500, they're a half game out of a wild card spot. And it's Boston, it's the Red Sox. It's very confusing based on what we saw 20 years ago and what they were and what they represented. But what goes around comes around in pro sports, you know, for the most part. And you got Otani again making his debut on the mound tonight. So that's coming up with with Ryan Dempster in about an hour. Our boy Steve stands as well. He was down at Oakmont. Just an incredible story yesterday. JJ spawn making now I will say this. I'm not I'm not trying to not trying to rain on the parade of the no pun intended. I'm not I'm not trying to not trying to rain on the parade of the pot no pun intended I'm not trying to rain on the gate of the pot, but he didn't have to make it to win it

He's 64 feet. Yes. It was an unbelievable But it was a look at the screen two putts to win it was a lag putt the one in Even I think the guy I think your boy Ricky Hovland who seems to just he's got some golf issue I got golf issues with stuff that guy has been through ten coaches in the last three years yeah well my point he gave him a good line unbelievable he was basically he said Rick do you mind if I stand right behind you while you putt this yeah well and they called that on the telecast which was a brilliant catch like the second like Spahn was on the green and Hovland

Was a foot behind him. Yeah, usually it's like you got to keep your distance And then you jump in behind when the guy putts I'm telling you that's the closest I've ever seen a guy Yes, he and Hovland blew it past to give him the give him like a perfect read. Well, that was more important I think the pace as opposed to the read like he watched how hard he hit that putt But I think Sam Burns was it Sam Burns who started karate chopping things in the locker room No, or was that it was Wyndham Clark I believe Wyndham Clark just sent an apology for his behavior at the PGA Tour Yeah, or at the PGA championship. He smashed his club and threw his club and he said, I'll never do it again, I'll be better.

Then he gets into the clubhouse at Oakmont and starts wrecking people's stalls. Crazy. Crazy behavior. Dude, those old codgers at Oakmont, I don't think they'd take a liking to that, man. Well that is someone's... Yeah, dude. That's some rich, famous dudeers some guy From a family that's been in the steel business for like 200 years yeah, Wyndham Clark just karate kick the thing and

And I don't you know, I don't think there's gonna be any repercussions because he's a US Open winner He's always gonna come back. They're not gonna kick him out of future us Oh my point about it is once you send out the I'll be better tweet and then a week later You start smashing things in Yeah, and apologize again, but there are guys lose like McElroy was losing it Shane Lowry is a disaster out there like Shane Lowry is a mess McElroy and Lowry wanted to light the course They were so angry and just they want to go back go home Like get get over to the UK or whatever and get ready for the open

championship. That's what they're looking at. I remember the one time I played that course and it was kind of a, it was a bizarre tip that my buddy Mike Zygomanis told me playing the course because he had played there before and it was so bizarre and you can't even really apply it. But he said to me, he said, oh, off the tee, if you're going to miss, you might as well really miss, meaning if you're going to blow it left, don't be in that ditch, be on the other fairway. But you're not going to say to yourself on the tee, if I'm going to miss this one, I'm

going to banana hook it into the other fairway. But when I walked off the course, I'm like, that was kind of amazing advice, but you can't apply it. know i mean course that you're trying to fairway exactly you're trying to hit the best shot possible the man like a bit of big miss was way better than the op the ditch with that like the the armpit high grass in the ditch like this at that point a little bit too much you know i don't mind some wispy fescue that you can hit a golf ball out of, but that stuff was nonsense, man.

Listen, I love that that was an old school US Open, though. I totally flipped. I hate it. I love it. I don't. What do you want to see? A guy shoot 32 under like a Kapalua? This is the problem.

We get that every week. No, no. Here's my point. They said they don't want to torture the best players. They want to identify them. Do you think they identified the best player? So what does that mean, though? I don't want to torture the best players. They want to identify them Do you think they had they identified the best so what does that mean though? That's I don't know so win every week Like I don't know that's not the way it should be just have a look at the top 15 Did they identify the best players or maybe they just want to identify the guys that are playing the best for the four

I think that's what it should be. I think that's They did that I just I was watching it and I'm like really these pin positions? Like there would be just a little part of the green and it was like you had to tuck that pin right there. They made it as difficult as they possibly could. I thought it was too much. I thought that if you were viewing it, I didn't I didn't enjoy it that much. I was like really man these guys are the best players in the world and you're torturing them I don't know. Yeah, but again, it's it's literally once a year like they go ask you guys Yes, I don't know anything. How bad do the conditions have to be to get it postponed? Well, it's raining. Yeah, like I turned on it was like you could hear it like it was it was like biblical rain

It was crazy that rain and there were Ryan Hayes The Marshall went out and told Sam Burns No, not getting relief. That's a lot wild scene that he didn't get really that guy But what he was so angry yet? He spoke with the media afterwards to any listen he blew up post rain delay Sam Burns was on fire then the rain delay hit and he melted and it wasn't just because of the ruling on 17 He was out of the tournament No, it was on 14 or 15 and the guy said no you got to hit it from there And he blasted it left and made a double and that was this that was the beginning of the end of him

Okay, I thought it was on 17 that he didn't get the ruling anyway, whatever But listen JJ spawned to his credit he shoots 40 on the front 32 on the back and to his credit he shoots 40 on the front 32 on the back and birdie 17 after driving the green and then that birdie putt on 18 finishes under par was just an incredible story what a drive on 17 unbelievable blind like of all those players that munch it he was that was the best drive I saw of the later groups like it was incredible yeah it was brilliant and and it was soft man cuz guys post rain delay we're having a tough time running it

up onto the green on 17, and he pulled that off. It was incredible. It was an incredible story. And Steve Sands will join us a little bit later this afternoon. So these Olympic six packs have been released today. And I got to say, I think this is a massive miss like doing it now I just feel like people are hockeyed out in many ways and it's like, you know the end of the cup final I would have started right before the season right when hockey's back

We're launching back into the season everyone's in pools again and all these different things are happening Like I just who is dying to hear about the six players going to the Olympics on June 16th yeah it just or game six of the fine yeah it's like you're the Stanley Cup final why what are you trying to overshadow the Cup final I get that there's days off and they're maybe trying to fill you know news cycles and stuff to me it was just a massive miss I totally forgot it was coming out and i saw it at noon on twitter as a guy and that's kinda interesting and they

get like who cares build it up in the in the fall that's what i don't understand like they're trying to with the four nations they're trying to keep this international stuff on everybody's mind but first off i don't care how far the travel is in the finals guys these two days between games it's it can't happen anymore moving forward I'm sorry

It's going to though cuz he is Every other day, dude every I that those series. I think it was the last Semi-finals that were just every other day That's the best kind of investment that the fan because it's like a day off and you know They're I think people are getting lost man It's starting to get really hot out really summer vibes Yeah, although two days ago was people were wearing winter jackets where I live and I'll tell you later about the bird that attacked me in The problem that's going on. I had the same thing happen to me, dude. You did. Yeah, you guys are getting attacked by bird

Yes, dude. I was jogging and I Wanted to bring it right continue Yeah, you guys are getting attacked by bird. Yes, dude. I was jogging and I Wanted to bring it right continue Yeah, you're up for a job. At 6 45 a.m Out of nowhere this black bird jumped on my head and I screamed at the top of my lungs because I don't know what the Hell was happening. I was being attacked by a bird I didn't want to bring it up on here because you guys would have just said that's insane Yesterday and you can find the tweet, CTV News said people in Lake Shorytobaco are

being attacked by red wing blackbirds. Yes, that bird. Yes. You guys are both getting attacked? I looked up on the wire. It went up to the wire and I was like, it looked like a Baltimore Oreo. My mom always called it Baltimore Oreo for her kids I was like I didn't know Oreo birds attack people and I saw the tweet CTV news red-winged blackbirds are attacking people where I live and I wrote I Wanted to talk to the news out front of my house. I was attacked get someone there get like Omar Satchadena to your house

personal breakdown of a bird attacking you and Jonas like obviously they're very territorial birds clearly and the two of your models are very aggressive well I think we were I would have been jogging around one of the nests yeah because they don't like people around their nests okay so did it just come once or did it come back again once it like grabbed on to my hair and like bit my head a couple times and then went back up to the roof. I'm not kidding.

Dude, you shouldn't get checked for that. Like you get bit by a bird, man. You might grow a third eye or something. I was walking down by the waterfront. I was walking by the waterfront and all of a sudden I felt something by my head. I was like, what the heck was that? And then I look up and the bird's coming back and he's bombing at my head. I'm like, what the was that and then I look up and the birds coming back he's bombing on my head I'm kidding no and so I started running and I was it was a red wing blackbird and it came back wow so that birds got it out

for the two of you and other people evidently but you in particular are really bothering that have you ever seen that movie the birds yes Hitchcock brilliant crazy crazy that woman's just cruising around it's like why are those and why would you go to that house with all those birds you know what I mean like when anyway there's one that there's no way doogie knows who Hitchcock is or the birds for that matter but aren't you now on alert Jeff like when you're gonna go for your next run you're like I gotta look around is that bird coming at me Yeah, I guess you gotta run somewhere else

I this is embarrassing to say but I chose to man up and just not let it affect me like I can't I can't Worry about birds. You got your path. You got your running route. You got to stay on it I have I went back to the scene of the crime and I just barreled through I was like I'm not letting this bird affect my Life. Yeah, that's true, man. You can't let the birds get to you Can you imagine though if you have to like call in sick because you got attack by a bird? Don't give him any ideas. I could totally see it.

I think I have bird flu. Why isn't Jeff coming in today? Oh, he was attacked by a bird. He's got bird flu because he was running. I'll Google red wing black bird bird flu and I'll come out with something. You let me know. You come up with something, Doogie.

You let me know what the symptoms are because now I'm concerned about being around you, Jonas. You might be patient zero. Doogie, Google, do you have to go to the vet if a red-winged blackbird bit your head? Because I might have to go in. Yeah, I would look into it. Why would you go to a vet, though? Where do you go? Well, you go to a real doctor, like an actual doctor. You realize you're not a bird. If a bird bites you, see you gotta go to the vet

We actually should start outsourcing some of that like animal if you have an issue with an animal the vet should have to step up But you realize that's like what are you doing here? This is not a hospital That's cold call a vet and say look I got bit by a black bird or a red-winged blackbird Yeah, I see you or my family physician Okay, doogie call up a vet and ask that straight-faced and just say it's a call I've had a topical Kingsway Animal Hospital answer and tell us that we have we need a We have a human patient Anything tomorrow morning? I have an answer so red-winged blackbirds are not known to carry rabies

So you don't necessarily need to go to the doctor. Okay. Any side effects from them biting or like digging into my head? Just minor pain, redness or small puncture wound. Okay. So that's what you might have. We might need like a full MRI from a vet. Just get the ODOTG to get the full treatments.

Dude, that would be embarrassing if you did show up at the vet and they were like, no, guy. Yeah, you realize a real hospital. You're a human. I'm not going to lie. That would be that was my first instinct. You got to go to a vet. Yeah, I guess again, I think there's something to that. Like, I feel like we should be able to like ask more of the vets in society So in the Sopranos, don't they always go to the vet? Yeah, do they go to the vet? Isn't the doctor like Something like that. I don't think it was a vet. I thought that was a real doctor You're talking one like junior would always go and maybe for like bullet wounds. Yeah, actually, I think you might be right

Maybe you're right. Maybe it was a vet that used to like do stuff for them I don't know. I don't think Tony was too worried about birds attacking him. I don't remember that being a part of a script It's gonna happen to you now things come in three. I don't think so. I don't run and I'm I'm not around birds. I Avoid birds not a fan Not not a fan of birds. We have a mutual thing. They leave me alone, I leave them alone. All right, Bruce Pujo in 20. Connor McDavid asked about the significance of the game tomorrow night and the significance of him chasing the Stanley Cup as the best player in the world. We'll play the question, the answer, we'll get into it next. Every once in a while you get an update and you don't know if you're getting set up. But one of the senior people at TSN sent me a text saying, the doctor in the Sopranos

was a peen doctor. A peen doctor. Yeah, okay, I think I know what you're talking about. And people have been writing in that the trailer park boys used to go to a vet, apparently. And then remember there was that Seinfeld episode where Kramer thought he was a dog like started acting like a dog and was coughing like a dog so he went to the vet and then that kind of spun out of control

yes okay text to read it was a penis doctor yes that's what the guy was okay I got you I think I remember that Sopranos the finale was like 20 years ago last week or something. Where do you stand on the finale? Hmm still not very full. Well, not a fan. Well the black screen not a fan So did he die or not? Well now they're claiming he did like the creator David Chase Said, you know, oh, yeah, I thought everyone knew that like that's what it meant But then why not just do it?

You can't do that. You can't say that. Yeah, exactly. You left it ambiguous to make it ambiguous. Easy to say after he dies in real life. Exactly. Exactly. Like just, why didn't they just do it?

Yeah. Like, why not just kill Tony off and then that's the end of it? This is not as, I don't know, interesting. Nobody's talking about it, I guess. I think everyone would have talked about Tony getting clipped. Breaking Bad? I've never watched Breaking Bad. Oh, that's a big mess. Jeff, have you?

Never. I don't have time for that stuff. I have time for it. I don't know. Breaking Bad was never one I got into. Okay. They're like almost out of spite because everyone, everyone I know is like, you gotta watch Breaking Bad. You should. Well, whatever. Out of spite, I'm like, actually, I'm'm not gonna do that. There's no it's totally Ridiculous reason but anyway, I said I want to spoil. Yeah, don't spoil it cuz maybe someday we will Can't spoil a show that came out 15 years ago

That how long it's been something like that That was Watley to Wally from Seinfeld Seinfeld another kind of disappointing finale not bad But not great two-parter lot brought it back a lot you know, former characters, which I actually thought was pretty cool. Alright, so we'll play the McDavid clip to start the 5pm hour, but game six tomorrow night, I think everyone understands, biggest game of his career. You know, and he's not alone, dry, subtle, the rest of the the team but obviously when you're talking of a superstar of his status and I didn't love his game the other night. I really didn't love his game in game three Game four was more dry subtles night. I thought he was pretty good, but not great like that's three games in a row It goes back to like when we talk about the Florida's

Like when we're talking about their wins or their loss, it's like we talk about the Florida's like when we're talking about their wins or their loss like we talk about the team yes no I understand Edmonton similar to the Leafs it's like we always seem to go and that's why I said it earlier I love it that it's about their team like their third line dominates there they got you know different players that contribute and it's about their team where we just go to McDavid and Dry-Sidle it's like one of them and I guess if that's what they are and that's how you're built and that's what they got to do but who knows if it works man like they got to have you

got to have depth and the more bizarre thing that we'll get in in the next hour is who the hell knows the fact that we're talking about switching goalies again is bizarre a world well ever happened game six of the final we don't know like it's just craziness like Who the hell knows the fact that we're talking about switching goalies again is bizarro world Well ever happened game six of the final we don't like it It's just craziness like it's too skinner gonna get off the mat and be like I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna come back from the dead again All right more on that in the next hour Let's get into it because it's a great question that literally no one has an answer to right now

Who is going to start and who should start tomorrow isn't it it crazy that we're going to be doing that? Game six cup final your life's on the line. Oh, we'll see. We'll let you know. It's the old like Sheldon Keefe. You know, it's like, well show up at seven and you can find out who's starting. Bruce Bujo, Ryan Dempster coming up in the next hour. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and up on YouTube live. You've been listening to Overdrive, powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Hey, this is Ruby Carr, the host of the podcast Encore. Choosing the perfect song to release

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