OverDrive - OverDrive - June 19, 2026 - Hour 2 - Mike Johnson/Taylor Hall

Episode Date: June 19, 2026

Join Bryan Hayes, Jamie McLennan and Frank Corrado for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Analyst Mike Johnson joins to discuss Darren Raddysh's signing with the Maple Leafs, his role in Toronto and the ...boost on the blue line. Carolina Hurricanes forward Taylor Hall joins to discuss the Stanley Cup win, the journey for the Hurricanes and his performance in the run and Bryan hands out his FanDuel Best Bets.

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Mike Johnson coming up here in a few moments. U.S. Open continues. down in New York. The Jays are getting pumped in Chicago playing the Cubs. Vladi left that game injured, not a good sign. And the World Cup continuing. You got the Americans who continue to roll. Scotland's playing, which means the scenes in Boston will be electric.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Man, like there is a chance. Canada plays Scotland round of 32 in Vancouver. Like a distinct possibility. that could happen. What does Stevie Caldwell do then? That's... I'm getting at the final second wheels. What I'm getting at.
Starting point is 00:01:07 Like, that will be electric. You want to see a guy in Stevie Caldwell who maybe can't lose in a situation like that. Right. Maybe that's the way you look at it. I'm not sure, but it's on the table. It's possible. So, yeah, Mike Johnson coming up here in a few moments.
Starting point is 00:01:24 And, you know, the Leafs made a sign and trade with Tampa today, acquiring Darren Radish, signing them to an eight-year deal at 8.5 million per. They made the Joseph Wall deal the other day. They hired a coach, Jim Hiller. Like, it is nonstop. Well, they won the draft lottery. Like, they fired their old coach, old GM.
Starting point is 00:01:43 The Leafs, they are a content-making machine. They are. They never stop. You know what I really appreciate right now? And listen, there was a lot of skepticism around John Chica and him being hired by the Toronto Maple Leafs. I have not heard the word. kicking tires once when it comes to John Chica.
Starting point is 00:02:02 All he's done is pull the trigger. And I have an appreciation for that. The fact that he's willing to pull the trigger, he's not going to be half in, half out, and he's going to commit to something. Whether it's right or wrong in a few years, we'll know the answer, but at least he's going to go down swinging
Starting point is 00:02:18 and he's going to try and make some drastic swings and some drastic moves to try and help his team. I said it in the last hour, but five years away in the NHM, It's a lifetime. It might as well be a century. I don't know how you're going to clean up certain things. I don't know who's going to be there to clean it up.
Starting point is 00:02:36 But you're living in this world right now. And as far as I'm concerned, he's not kicking tires. Like he is being aggressive and I have an appreciation for it. I do too. It's probably why I got the job. One of the reasons because work has to be done here. As we said last hour, it's a clear-cut message to the fan base and to the players. they're not accepting what happened last year, right?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Now, will it work? We'll find out. You know, there's more work to be done. We'll see how the season plays out. But, you know, if there was any concern, like, what is Matthews thinking? Well, they've moved, they brought in a new coach. You know, that's obviously significant. We'll see what Jim Hiller can do here.
Starting point is 00:03:17 But they brought in a new coach. They brought in, you know, a power play stud, really, and Darren Radish. You know, it was kind of the first guy to fit that mole. probably since maybe Brian McCabe like 20 years ago with the Leafs, a guy that's got a bomb and a guy that can run a power play. And that's a bread and butter move for Matthews, right? Like they're going to have Matthews, Nylander, Tavares, Nyes, you know, let's say they take Gavin McKenna.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Again, you've got to be reasonable with what you can expect out of an 18-year-old. That's a fair amount of talent, you know, like that's a fair amount of talent. you know, like that's a fair amount of talent that you're working with. They've got to fill out the rest of the roster. They've got to get goaltending. They've got to play a system. Right. You know, it was sloppy at times last year, a lot of times.
Starting point is 00:04:05 But this team is not going to be in a position where they don't have enough firepower, in my opinion, to score some goals and to get a power play going. Scoring goals has the regular season. You can win a lot of games. Like, scoring goals wasn't the issue last year. Right. It was how they defended. It was the inconsistency in net. it looked stale, it looked slow, but even with that being the case, they could score goals.
Starting point is 00:04:28 And the crazy thing is they finished that year one of the worst teams in the NHL. They're going to pick first overall. They had really good puck luck. So, okay, let's say their puck luck swips just a little bit. They're still going to score quite a bit. And you add Gavin McKenna, who's going to get better over time. Easton Cowan's another year older. How does Jim Hillers coaching and communication and messaging
Starting point is 00:04:52 how does that resonate with Austin Matthews and William Nealander because there's an established positive relationship already with those guys and if he can get the team to actually defend the way they're supposed to you're talking about a team that's fine or be a good team yeah and add in and I want to bring in Johnny to it too but add in so they've got decisions to make an RFA too Machilli and Nick Robertson be interesting to see if they've bridged them they sign them or they walk away from them or trade them
Starting point is 00:05:22 or trade him type of thing. There's big decision because you've talked about it, Brian. Absolutely. The top of the roster, there's guys there, but that's six to 12, there's a lot of work to be done there, and it'd be interesting to see what his philosophy is and how he was going to fill that out. Here's Mike Johnson, our TN hockey analyst, joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Johnny, your reaction to Darren Radish, eight years, 8.5 million, Toronto Maple Leaf. Surprise, because it's, you know, a lot of teams might be interested in him. Surprise because he's a couple weeks out from July 1. Not surprised by the number. We've talked about this at length, right? Frankie Noodles, Hayes, we talked about he's going to be 8 plus, 8 to 9, maybe 9 plus.
Starting point is 00:06:04 So that's not surprising. We know what he is and we know what he's really, really good at, right? Elite level shooter, elite level finisher. Actually, a very proficient passer of the puck. Defends the blue line pretty well because he's aggressive. He's not a great skater. what I'm curious about is that the stuff that he's good at, you can comfortably predict he'll be good at again.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Like he's not going to forget how to shoot. Like that's going to travel from Tampa to Toronto. Right. Well, like sort of the good possession defensive metrics travel from Tampa to Toronto, that remains to be seen because that has a lot to do with the team that's going to be around him. But as long as you're okay with understanding what you got, you don't have Kail McCar or Brock Faye or Quinn Hughes or Zach Wrenzky. You have a guy who's an elite level offensive shooter.
Starting point is 00:06:49 who could play on your second pair. And maybe the luck changes this year and he gets 50 points and 14 goals. And if that's okay, then I think you'll be fine for the next several years on that contract. Maybe by the end it might not be your favorite, but whatever. You're not worried about that right now. It's so far down the road. The cap could be $140 million by then. So, yeah, not surprising that he signed somewhere like this.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Maybe a bit surprising that it's the least. But I do like it. Frankie, I heard you say it earlier. He chose Toronto. We want people in Toronto that want to be part of the Toronto Maple Leafs, live in that city, be part of that market, deal with the pressure, but also the fun and the glory and the upside and the greatness that is being a Toronto Maple Leaf. I want guys that want to be there.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And the fact, yes, I guess he's got a big contract, but he got that contract elsewhere. He doesn't got that same amount of money elsewhere. And he chose Toronto, and that's a good thing. And also, hey, John Chica will have to evaluate the moves as well. we go, coach, goalie trade, this signing. He's not waiting around. He's hitting the ground running. I give him credit for being proactive. The number one thing I have said for months for Toronto is that they have to improve on how they get out of their own end, how they advance the puck up the ice under control.
Starting point is 00:08:09 He's taking steps to try to do that. It's not going to make him a perfect team. It's not going to make them a cup favorite, but they're better at it today than they were a week ago. And that's a step in the right direction. So Matt Larkin of the hockey news tweeted this out earlier, some rising cap perspective. He said by year two of the Radish deal, the cap is projected to be 113.5 million. So his 8.5 million cap hit would be the equivalent of a 6.59 million this past season. So, you know, it's like the numbers are exploding here with the cap. It's, you know, it's a big number.
Starting point is 00:08:45 It is a big number. He's 30. And I don't think that's only going down, Hayes. Yeah. That percentage, that equivalent is only going down. By year three, it's going to be the equivalent of five and a half. By year four, it's going to be like a four and a half million dollar defender. That's a five, six right now in today's NHL.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And so how long have we been asking for a shooter, Hasey, on the power play? And good as Morgan Riley was when he scored 20, whatever goals that year? He doesn't shoot the puck that well, the sloppers, or whatever. They've not really had a threat back there. They tried with Tyson Barry, but that wasn't a good fit, even though he's a good offensive defenseman. And with Matthews there and Neelander there and the overplaying of Austin Matthews because of the way he shoots the puck,
Starting point is 00:09:26 to have another threat that's not through the seam that from the top or rotated to the side that can score, a power play that was, you know, it's pretty good actually when Steve Sullivan took over for the rest of the year should be consistently good. And that's an area they're going to have to be good. Because they're taking steps.
Starting point is 00:09:45 They're not going to be a dominant five-on-five team, but they can be really good in the power play. We saw two years ago how a power play really helped project, propel them to first place in the division. So it's a good signing. He's a good player. Obviously, he got that kind of contract. Good on them and good on the Toronto Maple Leafs
Starting point is 00:10:02 were being proactive to go get them. If you were looking at the way the Leafs Power Play was going to line up today, pre-drafting Gavin McKenna, it would be Radish at the top, it would be Matthews on a half-wall, it would be Neelander on a half-fall. For me, all three of those guys like to shoot the puck. They're not Kuturoff. They're not dishing it with the slick. you know, feathery backhand, slip pass under a stick.
Starting point is 00:10:22 But at some point, Gavin McKenna is going to be there. Like, how do you kind of juggle that at some point, Johnny? If that's the guy that they're going to pick, that, you know, he's working that position. Is he power play two to start, then go in a power play one? Like, how do they work that ecosystem? Frankie, you just said an ecosystem. You go in that room and tell me if Matthew Nyes is still on the team or John Tavares. You're going to take them off the first power play?
Starting point is 00:10:48 so the first overall pick can go there, or Willie or Austin, or the guy you just gave $68 million to? I don't think so. And if you're going to take John Tavares off the first power play, then you shouldn't even have, like, that's what he has to do going forward for the Toronto Maple Leafs because he's so good at it.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So, yes, I think second unit, and I say Willie can certainly open up avenues and become more of a passover he wants to. Yes, he can still shoot it. He might not be so past first like Kucharoff might be, but they got guys that can throw it, you know, pass it around. Eventually, maybe, does when John Tavares
Starting point is 00:11:21 is two years away and then Nyes goes to the net and somebody else goes to the bumper and McKenna's there or if Austin Matthews is even here in two plus years, you can figure that out. But as great as Gavin McKenna's going to be, I don't know walking him into the first unit. I don't know. I don't know if you can even justify taking one of those guys out there in the short term
Starting point is 00:11:39 given how good they still are on the power play. So Johnny, we were talking about Radish's fit with this group. You said second pairing, whether it's first pairing, second pairing. He's going to play top four, top four minutes, right? Do you think Chica's done on the back end? That guy, I don't think he is.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I think there's one more move. You obviously have to deal with Morgan Riley, but if you move up Morgan Riley, who would you like to see, or what type of player would you like to see come in in replace of Morgan Riley? A steady, solid, two-way puck mover guy. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:17 He doesn't that be an offensive guy? You want him to be able to defend. You want him to not be small, unless he's not going to be elite, which won't be the case. You want a guy who can, you know, defend a little bit, pass the puck up the ice, and be counted on to be responsible.
Starting point is 00:12:32 You want a young Frankie Carado. That's exactly, you know what I mean? Like you want that guy. You know what I mean? But you know what I mean? Doesn't have to be exceptional at everything, but good at the stuff that he's good at because I still see
Starting point is 00:12:45 a lot of this hinges on TAN of being healthy. And if TANF, is healthy, then you can put him with McCabe, McCabe still on the team and they're really good together. And Jake McCabe doesn't get himself as many problems by doing to do too much because he has Chris Tannib there to help
Starting point is 00:13:01 him do more than enough. And then you have Radish. Who's playing with Radish? Obviously right now it would be OEL. I would almost prefer to have OEL and Andre as a third pair and somebody else, give me a second. And he can be a left-handed shot right now, right?
Starting point is 00:13:16 Because you have Tanna-Ridey and Radish righty on your top four. So he can be a left-handed shooter. A guy like Jake McCabe would be aggressive, but a guy like that to play on the second pair as well. And then you have Carlo to contend with. And Morgan Riley, it seems more likely than not. He's not going to be on the team. I don't think they're getting a good player back for him, but they're going to get, you know, they'll open up space and money to go address that one more defensive change. So play the role of Austin Matthews. How are you reacting to the wall trade? to Jim Hiller being hired
Starting point is 00:13:50 and to Radish now being acquired. Positive steps still wait and see if it translates on the ice. I like the vision. I like the idea. I like the risk execution. But we'll see. We'll see what happens on the ice. I'm assuming that he has a good
Starting point is 00:14:10 relationship with Jim Hiller because otherwise Jim Hiller probably wouldn't be here if he didn't. So there is that, but you know, Craig Barumet, he probably had a good relationship with too. And it didn't quite work out the way that everybody wanted. So yes, it's all steps in the right direction, but they still have a ton of cap space.
Starting point is 00:14:25 They're going to have more if Morgan Riley leaves, and there are several changes they still need to make, to make the team better, personnel-wise. And then the big question to me is, what do they play like? And what is their style? And Jim Hiller in L.A. was a very good defensive team. I don't know if that's because Jim Hiller is a great defensive coach,
Starting point is 00:14:45 or because that's the residue of Tom McClellan being there when they were exactly. Exactly that. Did he just carry over that kind of stuff in L.A.? I don't, not quite sure. But that's what the last piece of the puzzle to me. Like, let's see what, like, how do they move the puck up there? What's their neutral zone?
Starting point is 00:15:02 How does he use Austin Matthews? Does Austin Matthews have to take defensive face off still? It started against every team's best line still. Or does he free him up to do other things? That will also be impactful to how Austin is feeling about everything going forward. I was there when Jimmy was there, like I spent a year and a half with him. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone in those locker rooms that has a bad thing to say about him. Like his working relationship with a lot of guys, mind you, as an assistant coach, it was really good.
Starting point is 00:15:30 So I think that the fact that that is your starting point for all these guys, it's like I think it's one of those things, Johnny. You know, when you see an old teammate and you just kind of pick up conversation where you left off and you're like, it's just organic, it's nice. It's like we haven't missed a beat. I feel like that's going to be the case for the guys. there's not many, but especially those two guys that were there. And we'll see what that looks like. To your point, he inherited a really good defensive team.
Starting point is 00:15:58 Toronto's not a good in L.A. Toronto's not a good defensive team right now. I'm curious if we're sitting here in a year's time and we're digesting the year that Darren Radish just had, and let's say it's 10 goals, 40 assists, how is that getting graded by Mike Johnson between the benches and the Leafs pregame show? what's his defensive metrics? What's the style they play? What's his usage? Because I kind of expect him to get 10 goals and 40 assists.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I think that would probably be a good year. You know, I don't think he's going to score 25 goals. He might, but I don't think he will. That's what I'm saying. I don't think we can expect 70 points. He doubled up his career shooting percentage, right? He's going to double up his career shooting percentage. He's going to carry that again?
Starting point is 00:16:45 On a different team in a new market without the same guy passing the puck? Probably not. But 10 and 40 would be fine so long as the other stuff makes sense as well. And, you know, Frankie, you talked about it. You know, the coach coming back in. And I think, like, when I went to Montreal, I was 33, 11th year in the league. Guy Carver was my head coach. It still took me two months to kind of get a working relationship and sort of him understand me,
Starting point is 00:17:11 me understand him, because he got a lot to do beyond taking care of, you know, me or whatever. So the fact that you can fast track. that kind of relationship with the two most important offensive players you have, that's a good thing. And you need those two guys, Austin, Willie, to really buy in to whatever it is he's selling.
Starting point is 00:17:31 They set the tone now. Morgan's going to leave. Tavares is getting a bit older. Those two set the tone for how everyone feels about everything. And we've all been in rooms. When your best player has a bad attitude about something,
Starting point is 00:17:45 everyone knows. Everyone can feel it. And it sort of empowers everyone to to second guess or maybe to be a bit skeptical or a little comment on the slide talking about it at dinner. When the best player is the opposite, fully invested, fully on board, lockstep, then everyone else like, hmm, I better be that as well. So it's really important that those two players have a good relationship. And I guess it's important that they've already started with a relatively positive foundation as he arrives as a head coach. Johnny, you know, the addition of Radish, Andre, who's a good skater,
Starting point is 00:18:20 do you think you mentioned the style of the team? Now, Chica's not done yet, and I think he's got lots of work still to do, but do you think it's important for two things? He has to get younger and faster where the league is progressing too. I mean, Radish isn't a burner, but he's a hell of a player. But again, this team wasn't known as a fast team, and I think we see where the league is going. Is it important to get these signings, the next ones?
Starting point is 00:18:48 If you're moving out Morgan Riley to bring in X, Y, and Z, that player has to be younger and faster as well in a scenario. Do you think that's something that they want to get to as far as style? It's got to be a priority. It really has to be noodles. I mean, I guess there's the odd, older player that's fast, but generally speaking, once you're 33, you don't skate as well anymore. Like, you're just not as fast.
Starting point is 00:19:12 That's just human nature. So yes, Chica alluded to that when he brought in Andre. It's like, yeah, he's 24. Like we need guys in that window. We don't have a lot of depth in that sort of healthy young player that can contribute. So absolutely. And if you're trying to elongate this window, this Austin Willie window beyond two years, then you can't be bringing in all 30-year-olds who are then going to be, you know, 33, 34, 35 and beyond as Austin gets to those ages,
Starting point is 00:19:41 you need to bring in 23-year-olds who then go through their 20s. Absolutely noodles. I just sat there at the final watching Carolina skate the doors off of everyone in the playoffs. Like the one thing they do, compete and all that of their discipline. They skate across the board.
Starting point is 00:19:56 I talked to Justin Williams, talk to Rod Brinnamore, talk to everyone around that team. The number one thing they look for in their players, guys who can skate and guys are competitive. They got to go find that because on the games, they were slow. and it was kind of heightened by the way they played
Starting point is 00:20:13 they dumped it in and chased it never got there. They looked slow while doing so. Yes, younger, faster would be definitely part of any mandate they have rounding up than other three, four, five positions. And just as an aside, guys, like I don't know what's going on with Max Domey. I don't know where his health's at. I mean, kind of a scary situation for him,
Starting point is 00:20:32 but who's the third line center now? Do we... Don't know. I'm not exactly sure who's going to play that position. It's got to come from, to me, in a perfect world, it's John Tavares, because you go and find a second line set. That would be my... So who's a second line setter? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Again, I want to leave that up to the general manager to continue to do his work here. That's where I'm going with a lot of this, and that's why I brought it up earlier. He's got lots of, he's got cap space, but he's got lots of work to do to round out a lot of those situations. Because we brought it up, Brian. Like, I was going to mention, too. Max Domi's off the board. Like, that's LTIR. He might be on Robita Island,
Starting point is 00:21:12 and you hope he's all right, all of that type of stuff, but he's not available to you for any time in the foreseeable future. So it's another player you've got to, you've got another hole. He played a lot of minutes. Yeah, Max played a lot of minutes.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And, you know, Nick Waugh's gone and Lotton's gone. Yeah. Those are guys that chewed up minutes. And Max can skate. Say one thing about him. He can still skate. Like, on that team, he is one of the faster forwards
Starting point is 00:21:36 that just skating around the ice. So I say third line center because they're easier to acquire than second line centers. Nudl's wants a second line center, which is that much harder. So I don't know where they get it. You know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying. I want the flexibility. In a perfect world, I'd like the flexibility that you can push Tavares to the wing.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Because as you get older and slower and he's father times chasing him too, I would like to see him in a scenario where he could actually continue to do what he does because he's a true pro, he comes to play all of that. But being a winger, Johnny, you talk about it. There's less responsibility there. There's, you know, you can make your way up the ice. You don't have to be the first one back and go and win the low battles, all of that type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:22 That bodes well for an older player. So I'd like to see when it's all said and done. Maybe Tavaris on the wing, third line, second line type of thing. And that's where you've got some depth to do that. Easier said than done. Yeah, they've got to go find us. Yeah, they've got to go find us. What did you make of
Starting point is 00:22:37 Kevin Weeks suggesting that Radcoe Gutus could be a fit in Toronto? I've talked to Austin about it. Would you have to talk to Madness about that? Do you think they'd have to legitimately say, are you okay with it? Yes, legitimately you probably would call him and be like, hey, we're going to sign this guy just FYI. I'm not asking you permission, but I give you the respect to you a heads up.
Starting point is 00:23:02 You guys had a tough hit. You're not the only one around the league. He's done that too. hopefully like you know it's going to be fine in the room and it would be like it wasn't personal that radical went after us and he hits everyone that way right like that's what he does that's why he's still in the league and that's why he can be valuable and radco good is this frankly i don't if you dug it in his numbers but like surprisingly strong analytically for a guy you think might be just you know all grease and no substance his numbers generally in his career have been
Starting point is 00:23:32 relatively strong, maybe based on what you might think they might be. So another right shot. So if you're going to bring it in Goudis, you're going to go with you know, Tanev, Radish Goudis. So Brennan Carlo
Starting point is 00:23:45 and Fier. You know, well, Ful Myers, I don't want to be dismissed it, but like he's, yeah, he's not probably top six conversations.
Starting point is 00:23:54 That's probably, that's organizational depth, right? You know what's, you know what's, you know what's the most frustrating thing about Radcoe Gutis? Is that he, yeah, he hits hard and he can play on the edge and sometimes he's not willing to fight and back it up.
Starting point is 00:24:08 But he's actually not bad with the puck. Like he's kind of patient and makes some decent plays. And yeah, he's not like a super skilled guy. But he's not the kind of clunky ogre that you would think he is based on how we think about his game. That's what's frustrating about playing against the guy like that. My only concern, guys, you want another 36-year-old non-burner. Like you look at NHL. edge, he's below 50 percentile
Starting point is 00:24:34 in speed. Like I, I keep saying, I think they need to get younger back there as well. Or Brandon Carlo. Where'd Brandon Carlo in speed? I'd be there as well. Don't kid yourself. You're under 50%. I'm saying, like, so you're making, like, you're making a
Starting point is 00:24:50 spot, you're not like downgrading your speed. I'm with you noodles. I'm with you. And you can sort of, if you're wily, Chris Tandev is not very fast, but he, you know, gets around and is very effective. I mean, I like the player. again, you have to make the puzzle pieces fit and make sense, not just say, hey, he's a decent player,
Starting point is 00:25:07 we'll dump them in with all the other decent players and see how it goes. It has to be fitting with the other guys and fitting with the vision of how they plan on playing, which we haven't really heard Jim Hiller express directly. So we'll see what happens. Other than saying they're going to have fun. He's got hazy, fun's coming back. They're going to be. DJs at practice.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Let's go. Let's go. Balloon animals, whatever you have to find, whatever you need. I love it. I love it. All right, Johnny. Well, have yourself a fun weekend, buddy. We'll do it early next week.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Thank you for this. All right, fellas. Happy Father's Day to all you guys. Yes, you too. There he is. Mike Johnson joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline. It's time to Toyota. Check out the Toyota Tacoma and Toyota Tundra pickup trucks.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Both available is hybrids Maple Toyota near Canada's one to land on the Maple Auto Mall. You know what's that going? You know what might be overthinking? You know what we might overlook? If Tanev is healthy and Radish is here now, okay, how do you work a young defenseman into the NHL? I'll tell you, you put him on the third pair, you give him some sheltered minutes to start, and you give him the right dosage of responsibility and surround him with a good situation. What's Ben Danford going to be?
Starting point is 00:26:21 How are you going to work him into the league? You're going to work him in as a third pair guy. You hope you have a good situation around him, builds confidence, grows with the team, and eventually steps into a top four role. It's not going to go right into a top four role. So maybe we're overlooking that a little bit. That's a young defenseman who should play for this team at some point. Right shot, though, another one.
Starting point is 00:26:42 That's the only thing. They've got a lot of right shot D now. I think it's important with Morgan Riley to replace him with the left shot defenseman that has a two in front of his age. Like that would be the two things that. You've got to continue to get young. There's no question now. You've got to get younger.
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Starting point is 00:28:30 See you for a $15. fast lunch at your local Boston pizza. All right, the overdraft, PJ Picks, brought to you by Taylor Made, built better, core to cover, and performance seal with microcoding, switch to the all-new TP5 and TP5X at TailamadeGolf.C. The idiocy of O and I, like, no one took Wyndham Clark. He's been playing so well. He played really well last week.
Starting point is 00:28:51 He's won a U.S. Open before, and he's just sitting there. I'm going to take him. I was off today. I'm taking him. I'm going to take him. I'm going to add him to my team because I don't know what I was doing today. Mani Petty's for the big guy. He's up to something.
Starting point is 00:29:08 Who knows what he's doing? He's probably watching the U.S. Open right now. Yeah, exactly. That's probably what he's doing. So I'll take Wyndham Clark and Oaken have Robbie Higgins. He can take Robbie Higgins, who's 16 over par right now. Is that a club pro or an amateur? I don't know who that guy is.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Bob Higgins. But there you go. So I'll take him. Higgs was up there. Harry Higgs was hunting, man. Last time I checked. Harry's won under right now. He's still on the course.
Starting point is 00:29:38 He won under for the tournament. He's in the hunt. And under PAR is really good. Under PAR is really good right now, man. There's some big names up there, though. Wyndham Clark, Xander, Fitzpatrick, three under, Columorcahu, 200, Sammy Burns, two under JT, Justin Thomas out there,
Starting point is 00:29:54 Keegan Bradley, Rory McElroy, Fleetwood's one under. Scottie Schaeffler's looking for answers on the range. Yeah, he's not a grip with his place. coach. Like, he looks like he's in a dark place. The U.S. Open does that to him, man. He never, he doesn't generally sniff around much at the open. But, yeah, really cool scenes down at Shinnock, obviously.
Starting point is 00:30:13 And really cool scene yesterday. We had Rob Brindamore on the show. And while he was on, I guess Jordan Stoll sent him a text and said, I just dropped something off in your backyard. And Rod took his camera, brought it into the backyard, a bunch of people out there, and there's a Stanley Cup, just like sitting there. And he did a little.
Starting point is 00:30:31 selfie with it, went back up to his office. Awesome. It was really, really cool. So that was one for one. That's the first time that's ever happened. We've had someone on who physically had the Stanley Cup at their house. I don't know where our next guest happens to be. If he's around the Stanley Cup, let's hope he can get a video
Starting point is 00:30:47 of it. He just won it with the Carolina Hurricanes. Here's Taylor Hall joining us on overdrive. Taylor's a cup anywhere close to you right now? Yeah. It's about 30 feet away. We're I'm at Jordan Stalls right now, and we're having a little pool party with the family and friends.
Starting point is 00:31:10 It's been an awesome day. How's the Marty party doing over there? Is he hanging in with you guys? Yeah, the Marty party's good. He's the life of the party always. You always need one of those guys, right? Oh, yeah. Absolutely, Taylor.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Is he basically the Frank, the tank of the group? Is he the guy? I mean, he's the guy that's always down to keep it going. And he's always the party planner as well. So like I said, you need one of those guys in your crew. And right when I got traded here last year, Marty was the first guy. I realized that, you know, it was one of the culture guys here and someone that would be cool to be friends with. So he's one of the guys that, among many, that I'm super happy for here.
Starting point is 00:32:04 So I can see over your right shoulder there. There's a bunch of booze back there. Like, what is... There's some booze in your hand right now. Like, take us through the last 48, 72 hours. Obviously, you're still cooking down there. Like, what... How many core memories have you made over the last three days that you can remember?
Starting point is 00:32:26 Yeah, I mean, there's been a few things. I would say... So we went golfing in the mountains of Carolina. line. Just hold on a second. I got to pause this movie that's going on here. There's kids here too, so. Okay. All right, we're good. Yeah, no, there's been
Starting point is 00:32:42 a few. I mean, just being around the Stanley Cup, anytime it comes into the room, anytime you're around it, probably the coolest thing is seeing people's looks on their face when you bring it into a random bar, restaurant,
Starting point is 00:32:58 you know, especially here in Raleigh. So, I don't think it's ever going to get old. I've seen some reports that the cup has taken a beating the last couple of days. Can you confirm or deny that it's in one piece? Is it dented? Like, how's it looking? From what I understand there, there was a staff member that kind of dropped it right after the game.
Starting point is 00:33:25 There wasn't any of the boys, I'll tell you that. You can ask Phil. I think we've been pretty respectful of it. but I don't really know I think this is the party Stanley Cup I think this one is you know if it does get dented a little bit it's not the worst
Starting point is 00:33:43 not the worst thing that happened but we can't bring it in the water we can't really have it get wet so that's something I didn't know before having this thing so Taylor take us through you come into Carolina and kind of what's the difference in the other stops that you had as far as maybe system
Starting point is 00:34:02 dramatic play or having to buy into what Rod Brindamore was selling as a coach and an organization. Yeah, I mean, the style of play is one thing. A lot of detail in the system and the way we play on both sides of the ice. I mean, I would say there's as much detail on the offensive side of things as there is on the defensive side. Like, you know, everyone likes to make us out to be a defensive team, but, you know, we had the second most goals in the league last. year. We've really worked on that, you know, side of things. And I think there's been a freedom in how we're able to play offensively and off the rush. Like, you know, I've been other places where you get, you know, you get yelled at for mistakes offensively more than here. And then I would
Starting point is 00:34:51 just, you know, there's off the ice has been a really cool experience, obviously. There's, there's some really good players here, but a ton of good people, you know, led by Roddy and its coaching staff and the organization and you know you never know what a place is going to be like until you get somewhere but it's been uh it's been incredible obviously and for us to you know take a step last year and make the conference finals and then you know ultimately finish the goal this year it's been it's been so much fun and really a dream come true taylor that group that's been there for a while now they've also you know they've had some tough playoff losses did you always get the sense that this group was just poised and they were going to find a way to get over it
Starting point is 00:35:31 Or did you sense any frustration? Like, how was the mindset of the group when you first walked into that room? There was some frustration, and I got the sense that, you know, it's great to have a nice regular season and get 100 points and win your division. But ultimately, if we couldn't get over that conference final hump, I don't think that the season would be looked at as a success. So there was that kind of anxiety, especially. when we lost that first game in the conference finals against Montreal,
Starting point is 00:36:06 we were all just kind of, you know, a little bit pissed off at how that went. And I think that was just rust overall. And once we got over that conference final, you know, once we got that and we were in the Stanley Cup final, I think we were all just, you know, super excited to hopefully take that step. And it was a great series for us. I just watched the replay of the series last night. it really could have went either way in so many of those games. And I imagine as a fan, it was pretty awesome to watch.
Starting point is 00:36:39 It was an incredible cup final. When you say you rewatched it, like, what do you mean by that? Like, how condensed was the whole thing? How many hours did it take you? No, I mean, there's like a 40-minute replay on YouTube with all the goals and whatnot. So, yeah, there was like, you know, we could have won that first game. could have won the second game. We could easily won that third game. The fourth game was a one-gold game as well.
Starting point is 00:37:09 And just there's, you look at any series, I guess you could make the case that that would happen. Freddie, do you mind turning that down for me? Thanks. I don't even know what movie. There's like a family movie on here in the background for some kids that are here. Priorities. Well, yeah. It's. But, yeah, no, I mean, I've been consuming all the content I can on our Stanley Cup win, honestly. So before bed every night, I usually watch a show or whatever, and now I've just been watching YouTube highlights of baseball.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Well, that's amazing. We're chatting with Taylor Hall. How about your own performance? You know, I guess take us through the goal in game six. I mean, ultimately, you end up scoring the Stanley Cup winning goal. He guys won three-nothing. It looked like you let, I think it was before you scored, you got hurt or something. It looked like you were kind of getting to the bench, like you were holding your shoulder or something.
Starting point is 00:38:09 But have you, like, take us through that goal, and I'm sure you've watched it, clearly. And what do you make of it? I was kind of cheating a little bit. I was hanging back a tad. Our two fours did a really good job of cutting their, you know, their rush off at the blue line. And then Slavo, Slavo is an underrated passer. And as the playoffs went on, you know, in the regular season, I wouldn't play a whole lot with Jacob Slavin because how we match lines. They were always matched up against the top guys and our line was not.
Starting point is 00:38:48 But as the playoffs went on, on the road, you really couldn't control matchups. So I started playing with him more and more and realized that, like, if he gets the puck on a stick, he can make a play. He can make a long pass. You can make a stretch pass. So I, you know, I read that. And my dad was kind of on me as the series went on to have a bit of a quicker release, get my shots off as fast as I could. And I had a few point blanks on Carter Hart. And that one I managed to get off, I think, pretty quick.
Starting point is 00:39:21 So you were, you were. So, yeah, I mean, yeah, it was a, it was a great goal. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm super happy that that was. the game winner, but the job wasn't really finished there. It was a complete effort by our whole team as the game went on. And that third period, I thought, was a real, like, you know, kind of defensive clinic on how to, you know, not give them any momentum. Father's Day this Sunday, I'm sure your dad, one of the happiest guys in the world.
Starting point is 00:39:51 He said he was giving you pointers throughout, you know, the cup final throughout the playoffs. Has that been consistent throughout your career? Like, how often do you check in with your dad? and does he give you feedback on how you're playing? I mean, yeah, we talk on the phone before every single game. And after every game, I would say 30 minutes after, there's a short text on, you know, a couple thoughts of his. And, you know, when you win one of these, those are special things for not only you,
Starting point is 00:40:24 but your family and people that have contributed to everything that you're doing. And maybe none more so for me than him. my wife and my mom and people that help us out a lot of her parents are all kind of really involved in this but yeah my dad it's been it's been pretty cool to share this with him the last the last week you did a lot of winning prior to your nchl career starting two ohhl championships two memorial cup championships was it as hard as you thought to win a stanley cup yeah yeah i mean I mean, yeah, it was definitely hard. The joy that you feel afterwards is nothing like I've ever felt before.
Starting point is 00:41:11 So, yeah, it was hard. That last series was very difficult for us. I thought we made it look, you know, a little bit easy at times, but it wasn't. It took every single guy in our team, like, that's kind of the cool part of this, is when you look back on the games and you kind of watch the replays and the highlights again, and you see plays that guys made that, you know, really contributed to this whole thing. And it's so cool to see. And it's going to be, you know, awesome to celebrate here.
Starting point is 00:41:40 So, Taylor, you, it's a long ways away from, you know, your start in Edmonton and having a mentor in Jason Strudwick, having passes like that come to your stick. And you just laid out slave in passing puck. So I'm sure things have come full circle for you in Big Strud. Yeah, I mean, I had a nice visit with him this year when we played in Edmonton. He's a great guy. That whole family is awesome. Yeah, I mean, I got some of the worst passes I've ever gotten from him, right?
Starting point is 00:42:16 So if you can, they always say you can't, you know, a good player will take any pass. And I think that that really led me to this point. but no i mean strutty i always laughed that he always says he's a multi multi goal scorer you know multi year multi goal scorer yeah that's valid one of the best and probably one of the only few guys in the world that's that have won more memorial cups than you too i think i mean strut i think had three of them i believe in his career
Starting point is 00:42:51 that's tough to beat man three yeah i think he got three i think he might have got three i think he might have got I think Darcy, him and Darcy Tucker, they always talked about it. And Nashra, I think, had three, too, I think. Who knows. Yeah, they had a lot out there. From Strudwick to Slavin. What a career, what a run.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Congrats, Taylor. We can't thank you enough. Get back to the party, and we'll do it again down the road. Thank you for this. All right. Thanks, guys. You got it. There's Taylor Hall.
Starting point is 00:43:19 That's awesome. Just enjoying life. That was a refreshing drink. That was a refreshing drink. That was a refreshing drink, whatever that was. It was. Very refreshing. That's getting you over the hump that drink.
Starting point is 00:43:30 That's just a little. I got to find a nice soft spot here. That's a I can't drink beers anymore, drink too. We've had enough. They've probably been around the pool for three or four hours. Yeah. Come do a quick interview. But awesome guy, awesome story.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Awesome career. First overall, one of the truly great junior players ever. That Windsor team was unbelievable how good they were. and, you know, he's won a heart. He's won a cup. He was chasing down to Kahn's Mait. He was that good. And awesome to hear from him, Taylor Hall.
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Starting point is 00:45:22 Scotland is electric right now. Boston, they're literally running out of beer because so many Scottish people are down there having a great time. The Scots are partying more than the Carolina Hurricanes. That's hard to do. It's very hard to do, yet they've played one match in the group stage. And I think they get a draw here, paying plus money. Best bets powered by Fanduel.
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Starting point is 00:46:18 Leaves are active. We'll see what else comes out of it. We'll see what else they do between now and time. July 1st, forget, you know, October 1st. Let me ask you this then. By Monday at 4 o'clock, do you think we have another move? I would be surprised. Or another significant move in the leak, not just leaps. Let's just say, do you think there's one other big move by Monday at 4 o'clock?
Starting point is 00:46:40 I wouldn't be surprised. I would say yes. I'm going to bet yes on that. I think a lot of teams are waiting, you know, you're waiting for the Cup final teams to get out of the way. and GMs have been talking for months. What are we going to do? Who's available? I think that's going to happen in the draft next week, right? This time next week, we've got to believe Gavin McKenna is getting drafted first overall. I think we'd all be very surprised if he didn't.
Starting point is 00:47:05 You know what it is? It's a lot of house cleaning stuff for teams leading up to the draft, right? Like they want to be at the draft, well, whatever, in the draft, able to make a move that they want to make, not saying, I got to clean this up or clean that up. That's like that kind of sets the table right now. Yeah, we'll see. Melon Friday brought to you by Boston Pizza.
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Starting point is 00:47:43 Thanks for doing this. Thanks, boys. Nice to see you. The O'D will be back next week. And next week's a big one. the NHL draft coming up, and Jay's again playing, the U.S. Open full recap, and we'll see what comes out of the World Cup as we move towards a massive game, Canada versus Switzerland next week out in Vancouver.
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