OverDrive - OverDrive - June 2, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! Edmonton Oilers head coach Kris Knoblauch joins ahead of the Stanley Cup Final to discuss the coaching mentality for the team, the success of the stars on the roster and the redemption factor against the Panthers. The guys also discuss Jake Oettinger's removal from the game by Pete DeBoer, Scottie Scheffler capturing the victory at the Memorial Tournament, the Raptors searching for a big fish and if Giannis Antetokounmpo is on the radar on the team.

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the head coach of the Oilers. He'll join us in about five minutes, about 48 hours away from game one cup final out in Edmonton, home ice for the Oilers this year. Very significant media day tomorrow. So we'll get into that with Chris and a lot more to get into with him and We're less than a month away from July 1st in fascinating haze and NBA

fascinating to ask the coach about like Experiencing everyone talks about experience and sports so What can you actually take? So what can you actually take from last year's experience into a totally new series? Like, same team, but different characters, different spotlight players. Like, I don't know. I just wonder what the experience would mean.

I mean, maybe it's a simple big picture thing. You take it to yourself. Don't blow the first two games, or don't blow the first two games or don't blow the first three. Like is it as simple as that or is there other things? What I've talked to guys about it and it's not even so much on ice, oh, it's dealing with how noisy it is as far as like think about the off-ice stuff these guys are going through the parents, the brothers, the cousins, the uncle, like tickets and travel and like people coming into town.

Like I think there's so much distractions attached to it. And it's your first time there. So you want to bring everybody along as far as have them. Like I, I, I, like I've, I've been told this by guys going, it's an absolute circus as far as, you know, just trying to get to the ice, get to the game. And then you're right, the experience on the game and going through the, you know just trying to get to the ice get to the game and then you're right the experience on the game and going through the you know high pressure but I my understanding is like there's so much it's it's really noisy as far as getting

to the ice because there's just so much distractions and I think that's why I'm thankful Jamie my family like they would just handle that on their own. Yeah, go on. My dad and his buddy came down to watch me in the Stanley Cup final in Carolina. I don't ever think I heard a peep about it. He just went. He did it. Yeah, I mean...

Got a hotel, did it. I didn't have to handle one anything. Yeah, well nowadays, the wives and the girlfriends I've read an article yesterday. It's called Wag wives and girlfriends. They've got you know things set up and this and that like there's just so much like it's just Distraction after they have set up I don't on town. I've read wags. It's yeah wags is the acronym But did you read it? Yeah, did you read it? I read that article. I've never heard it actually pronounced instead of said wags. There's a lot going on obviously. I don't know how much that changes the second time around. I guess we'll find out. But I think that's the question

to ask Chris out of the gate because we hear it all the time. Once I got through my first one I learned maybe things to do differently the next time. I'm curious how that applies to the buildup because we don't have any access to information in terms of how it applies to them playing because they don't play until Wednesday night. But the preparation, the fact that they don't have to fly down to Florida to start the series, those are all different storylines that are right in front of them, but yeah, I'm curious how Knoblock is going to answer that question. What do you think experience is worth prior to getting there, and did you think it was

valuable for Florida last year? Because they had lost the year before, but they had been there the year before. And last year, Florida was the veteran, Edmonton was the rookie, this year they're both vets. Yet only one team knows how to win in the cup final. Only one has actually done that. So there's a lot of different things that are going to play out. I think we get caught up, myself included, in applying last year's series to this and it's going to be completely different.

You know it's just gonna be a completely different series. It never plays out the same way. But I think it's overall an exciting series. I mean when you consider it's two big boy teams, it's superstars, yes it's a replicate of what we saw a year ago but I don't think that's a bad thing. That means you can just jump right in and you know all the players. You know there there's no wading into this. Like as a viewer even, you're not trying to figure out what's going on with this team, how does

that team apply to that? You just know what they're all about. You know what both teams are all about, drop the puck and go out there and fight. Go out there and play. And keep in mind like, you know, both teams are dinged up, but you know, Zach Hyman's a big blow for them. Like, you know, and, and oh, I know you're right. Like Evander Kane is a unicorn. I don't know if there's an Evander Kane in that series. And that guy's good, man. Well, he's a great player, but like, you know, he can do it all. He can hit, fight, skate, you know, score, do, you, do all that type of stuff.

And he chirps and gets underneath your skin. Kachuk does that. And Kachuk gets more points, all that type of stuff. But Evander Kane is a feared opponent. Like he can fight. Like he's a serious fighter. Well, fight. Like he does fight, clearly.

But I don't think he scares people. Yeah. Like Kane is a guy who will fight like he does fight clearly but i don't think he scares people yeah cain is a guy will fight like heavyweights fighting is not an intimidation factor in the stanley cup finals like evander cain's intimidation is absolutely steamrolling a defenseman and getting the puck in the corner yeah he's just so good he's a big power forward who competes and

He brings it man. There's one thing you can say a lot about him, but the one thing he does do He brings it every damn night. He plays. Yeah. Well, I you know, it'd be interesting to see like I Wonder if if Chris Knobloch in a you know, truth serum moment Felt like it would all come together because keep in mind like it, mind, two weeks before the end of the season, it was McDavid banged up, Dry-Seidel, Klingberg wasn't there, Kane wasn't available to him, Frederick was limping around. Like this was a-

At home, didn't play the first two rounds? Like this was just a walking wounded. Like, on paper, they looked good, but it never looked like it could get it together all of them playing together and it it all fell of felt together at at one point but at some point you think he would have been killed like you probably lay in a bed gone god i don't know i don't know if it's going

to come together i don't know i mean it's interesting that we haven't really looked back on the previous series a lot as we're moving forward here but what brought brendam or said at the end of the Kane series where he thought with all the players that left last offseason he wasn't sure they were gonna be a playoff team in Carolina like that's crazy you know forget making it to a conference final and maybe not feeling like you can all come together and get to a Stanley Cup final which in the end they did not I don't disagree with that

comment do you like it when either those guys left out the door is like you're get to a Stanley Cup final which in the end they did not. I don't disagree with that comment to you like when either those guys left out the door it's like you're looking at the roster and like how good are they going to be? Yeah, yeah. They lost you know Pesci and Shea and Tara Vynan left and there were yeah there were a few a couple other forwards that left there was turnover there for sure. Yeah. Now that's a different extreme than then this but i guess in the end you kinda have to have faith don't you like a new that i don't think this is the other guy that went out the door and they're doing someone else and but it was stank open yeah i think over to good player but that

he's not at that level he's not a he's not a game game changer game breaker like you leave player no he's not and who knows if game breaker like you leave player no and who knows if he ever will become that he may just be a that good player you know he's gonna be is like he's gonna top out a possibly plan some second-line minutes twenty-year-old score he might be on your third line energy guy it doesn't mean he's going to be a bad player but i don't know if he's going to

be a top-end guy yet it's not a slight them notes that it's not his fault. I mean, they swung and missed. They went for ranting and it didn't work out. Natures was great prior to that. But yeah, it's a good question. I mean, I guess once you get to the dance, you're probably always going to look back

and say, yeah, I guess I always believed. But I guess we should go right to the source. Here is the head coach of the Edmonton Oilers joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline. Here's Chris Noblogok. How you doing Chris? Good thanks for having me. Yeah, thank you for doing this we were just discussing, you know the last 12 months for your team and Even down the stretch when Connor was banged up and dry Sutter was banged up and there were other guys in and out of your lineup

Curious if you just always had belief you'd be in the position you are today preparing for the cup final. We always knew we had a good team. We didn't know if we'd have enough time to kind of put it together because we had so many guys at the end of the year banged up. As you said, those two were hurt. We knew they were going to return. We knew they were going to be 100 percent%, but there was a lot of other unknowns like Evander Kane, Trent Frederick, Klingberg, Wallman, Ekholm.

We had a lot of guys miss the last month of the season. In any retrospect, it really helped our team. We had guys step up and played really well down the stretch and they wouldn't have had those opportunities to find their game and build it if we didn't have so many guys hurt. That helped us. And then early in the series against LA, it was the first time we had all these guys together, Trent Frederick came in game two. And for me, it was like, what do I have here? Who plays well together? Because it was pretty much a new team and you know we were able to figure it out you know we almost didn't have that opportunity to figure it out but we always knew we had a good team Chris

going into the finals again we talk a lot on this show about sports in general the value of experience so Florida Panthers the finals again how does experience helping you we were just talking about it other than the fact of you don't want to go down 0-3 again. How does the experience factor come into play for yourself as a coach and the players that are returning to the final? Well I think first and foremost the most important thing that you can have is talent on your team. You want good players and then experience. Experience is helpful and I think that experience just allows your players to handle adversity, handle stress because there's always stressful moments whether it's a game one of the playoffs in the

first round or Stanley Cup finals whatever it is there's always ups and downs and I think the guys that have been around and have played a lot of hockey games, especially high intensity, high pressure games, they can handle those ups and downs a lot better. So you know, I think we've got the old steam in the league. I believe we might have been the oldest team in last last year too, which is beneficial because there are a lot of ups and downs and they're able to just worry about what's important at the moment, not the blown call or what the other team is doing or whatever it is.

They just know what's important. You just mentioned about the most valuable thing for you and your players is having talent. How do you get the message across to your players that it's great to be talented but to succeed in the playoffs it's got to be more than that. You can't bring just talent to the table. Well these guys have been they've been around for a while they played a lot of hockey games and my best players really elevated and played phenomenal hockey throughout their careers in the playoffs like you look at when Leon Dreisel has done Carmen David these last two years, Evan Bouchard, among other players, which is outstanding because there's

always stars who don't elevate their game when things are difficult. It's hard enough to score and play well in the NHL against the best players in the regular season and then when it's playoffs it gets even harder harder and for these guys to elevate their game even more is really impressive but you know i think there's not you know for me coaching like the guys want to win they want to do well and it's not about

and they will sacrifice anything they will do whatever it takes to win a hockey game if it's a checking role or whatever it is. That's their biggest goal. So Chris, you know how you adapt that your in-game adjustments is very unique and a lot of people talk about it where you know you have lines to start the game but then the adjustments start. Do you have a formula where it's like you lay eyes on a guy maybe one or two shifts in and somebody's going a little extra so you want to find them some ice time or maybe

a guy is struggling a little bit and you hide them a little bit more? Is that the thought process throughout the game? I think I have a few plans going into the game. Obviously, you hope you never deviate from your plan because you go through and if you don't deviate from your plan things are going well and you just continue doing that. But I think we have an idea of all right who's been playing well together and what are we gonna do if we're up a few goals, if we're not, if we're chasing and then kind of make those changes as we go. And you know, obviously throughout the season. And we had a lot of line combinations.

You look at some teams and they pretty much have the same guys playing the same, or with the same line mates almost throughout the whole season. This year we had a lot of fluctuation, especially mid season, especially around January before the four nations. We were really trying to find out what we had from our team

and who could really step up and play in the top six with Leon and Connor. So we had a lot of things going on in that time. I don't think it was helpful for our team at the moment, because I don't think it's beneficial. They move guys up and down, line up a lot. But I think it's been helpful for us now because we know what works, who plays well together, so we have some better guidelines of what we need to move forward. With Chris Knobloch, head coach of the Oilers, game one Wednesday night in Edmonton, we've

discussed experience, kind of a more overarching experience, oldest team in the league, now it's your second cup. You're still a very young coach in the league now. It's your second cup You're still a very you know young coach in this league relatively young you've been in the league for 18 months You're in your second cup final What do you without you know we haven't got to the games yet, but what do you believe you learned? What do you know you learned from the cup experience last year that you feel you can apply? To this this cup run that you think will help your team? I think during this

tour, my time as a coach the biggest thing is you know what the other coach is going to do what's the other coach going to do when they're chasing a game or what are they going to do when they're up I don't know, just those'm no I learned that when I went from the Western Hockey League. I was in the system then went to the head coach I didn't really you kind of had an idea but when I went to the Ontario Hockey League I was a head coach there my first year or even my second year didn't really know what the other teams were gonna do and I always felt like I was a step behind and then I was head coach there for four plus

years and then you kind of have an idea, okay, this is what this coach tends to do and there's an adjustments he might make. Last year all these coaches were new. I didn't know exactly how they played or whatever. I think that has a little bit to do it. I've learned some experience of what other teams are going to do. Like we saw Dallas two times through these two playoff runs. Now Florida.

But I think also probably what I learned the most is the ups and downs of a playoff run and how you need to be able to shut it off after the game, whether it was a loss, a win, over time, put it behind you and get ready for the next one. So when you say shut it off, does that mean, like obviously you review the game, but are you trying to review the game without a pulse? You know, like how do you do that?

How do you look back on a bad loss without, you know, having that emotion or a great win without having that emotion? How do win without having that emotion how do you how do you do that well you're definitely reviewing the game and seeing what work what didn't and any advantages you think that you can gain uh... but i think it's no preparation on

uh... you know if it went really well probably not going to go that well the next game because it's a new game there's no moment on that you know i don't believe that momentum carries from game to game that after that was not it's not it's that the new game the next one uh... you know i think that that helps me like

you know whatever that messages to the players the next day or what kind of tactical uh... uh... adjustments we need to make so paul marice recently said he believes his team is better than last year and he said he believes your team is better than last year how do you respond to that assessment no no i agree that i i think of our our special defense of the guard at that

level but better you know missus zach hyman uh... i'm not sure for stronger up front but I think our defense got a little bit better. You know, we're missing Zach Hyman. I'm not sure if we're stronger up front, but I think we've got more guys that are capable of stepping up and contributing. You know, we're not gonna replace Zach Hyman. And as for Florida, you know, it's scary to think that this is their third Stanley Cup final in a row,

and this is probably their best team. And you look at the Additions that they made at the trade deadline Marshawn Jones Yeah, probably is their best team so, you know, I think it'll be a great series and Yeah, I'm looking forward to starting it because there's been a lot of sitting and waiting right now Yeah Do you pay attention to any of the coaches like in all the other series that you've been a part of Chris do you pay attention to any of the the opposition coaches comments? Yeah I do because I also like

to know what you know their message in the press conference is usually the message to their players and their players certainly what they're talking about is the message that's probably coming from the coach and kind of give you a little bit of idea what's coming in the future. So yeah, there is a little bit but certainly not to a large extent. We've talked a lot about McDavid and Dry Settle but Evan Bouchard especially in your market and we know Canadian

markets can be noisy sometimes, he's a guy that's very polarizing. There's feast or famine with him sometimes where he can make a 10 bell play or he can make a mistake. In the playoffs he's found another level. What makes him able to find another level at the most critical time? Well, he's an extremely smart hockey player. He does. He has some great talent.

He can pass, shoot the puck, but he really reads the play well. And yes, he makes mistakes. Every player makes mistakes, but what he does do that very few can is you know the plays that he does make that are the ten bell plays you know the passes and getting pucks through the nets and you know that's what separates him from just the average defender and you know I think it's very unfair that he gets a bad rep about making mistakes because you know all players do but the amount of positive plays that he makes and the positive

impact he has for our team winning hockey games is tremendous. And he does that through the regular season, but like Leon and Connor in the postseason, he's even better. So are you aware, I'm not sure if you're on social media or not, but there's a guy that looks exactly like you that's behind the bench. Are you aware, I'm not sure if you're on social media or not, but there's a guy that looks exactly like you that's behind the bench. The Knoblock Doppelganger. Did you see him?

Did you lay his eyes on him? Have you met him before? Anything like that? I have not met him. Before he came to any of our games or before he was known, Gene Princebay, he showed it to me and uh... i did see a month first comment i made with one of him from young man the

that's not back there but that's a bit you gotta get him that he could see that's for tickets nice nice popular is that the first superstar there are flies yes i would be no is almost family. I have not met him yet. We got to get him somehow meeting with you, hopefully with a Stanley Cup in hand. I guess we'll get you out of here with a question we've thrown around. A repeat of the Cup final, considering how heartbreaking it was last year. Is your team more inspired this year? Is it possible for you to calculate that? Like I'm sure you guys were chomping at the bit this

time last year once you were in the cup final. But now that you're back, considering the heartbreak a year ago, because it's Florida again waiting for you, the mood of your team, is it possible that you're even more inspired this year? I think we're more prepared for it. Experience is gonna help us. You know when you're playing for the Stanley Cup I don't know if you can ever be more motivated because that's the ultimate goal. So you know we were 10-0 to 10 last year motivated like and I don't think that's gonna be any different no matter who we're playing or what it is. I think the ultimate goal is winning that

Stanley Cup and that hasn't changed from last year or this year. Well we're looking forward to things finally getting started on Wednesday night and I know if we're looking forward to it I can only imagine how much you're looking forward to it so good luck this time around Chris. I know it's a busy time We really appreciate you doing this. Thank you. Thanks very much. Thanks for having me. You got it There's Chris Knobluck head coach the Edmonton Oilers joining us here the Maple Toyota hotline Did you guys sniff out where I was going with one of my line of questioning? Which which one it's all the talent in the in getting them to elevate? Yes, I did pick up on that.

Yeah, I'm sure you did. And you notice what he said? He goes, they just elevate and get to a different level. He goes, some guys just don't do it. I was like, oh really? I had no idea. Yeah, it is quite the luxury to have. Like both coaches must look at their best players and just thank them. Like every once in a while you say thank you, thank you for

being a beast. Thank you for continuing to play the way you play, wanting to play the way you play. Yeah. Like you just never have to worry about Barkov or David. Well, Ken Hitchcock, he always, he's told us and Ken's a smart guy, he's been a great coach for a long time. Like you're messaging through your best players so you don't have to yell constantly at players, has to filter through your best players. So message from coach to the best players and then it gets to everybody else. And when you got guys that they'll do anything to win that cup and to win series and you don't have to say a word to them, it makes your job as a coach that much easier

Yeah, like it's a big time and I found his question or his answer about It basically saying he's In not so many words competing against Paul Maurice. You know like we don't really look at it that way Necessarily like you think McDavid versus Markov like he basically was saying when I'm behind a bench I'm thinking about what this guy's doing all the time. What's he gonna do next? All right they have a lead this is what he's gonna how he's gonna play it. They're chasing the game here's how he's gonna play it he's studying that all the time and you know that's smart. That's very smart. Instead of just saying oh first line second line.

Exactly because a lot of coaches it's like don't worry about them boys keep playing our game like it i don't i don't get the impression he was suggesting the players should worry about palmer resorting like that but he studies slurred article right exactly what are they going to do if they got a lead in the third period what's marie's gonna do and how do i tackle it now there's still there's all different like like I remember having a conversation with Craig Button about

a playoff series. It was just about matchups with Neuendijk and Modano and just against Sackick and Forsberg and how the coach had success one time and then he switched the matchup to totally give it a different look. It's fascinating stuff, all the things you can do and explore and look into. Big time. See what works works you know what I mean and understanding that you know things are going to be different the next time out and you know even what he said like I like to listen to what they're saying over there because that's the messaging being sent to their players

well I hope Paul Maurice doesn't hear that because he'll be just blabbing away tomorrow Paul can't help himself anyway. Maurice is gonna Maurice. Oh yeah. He's gonna be on his throne and he'll be on fire. He's a quote machine though. How many times, but it's great because how many times have we been dying for some personality behind the bar? Yeah, but Noodles, he's gone a little bit too far.

I get it. I mean, oh, we haven't been together as a show since Edmonton beat Dallas and and our buddy Pete the Boar, you know had some comments for the goalie and like it You know, it's it's it's amazing the wild swings and I was thinking about this yesterday Ten days ago Pete the Boar like this guy doesn't lose in game sevens. No. Jamie, I gotta be honest with you. I'm glad he made the comments because it's like he could have kind of weaseled his way around it and was like, oh, I got best guys didn't have. He thought

that like the goals I found were weird. Although there were two shots and one was a breakaway, the goalie just didn't look competitive to me. I'm sorry, he didn't. He didn't look competitive. He didn't look ready, he didn't look competitive. And he had enough and he said, I'm not doing it with you. Although the other guy went in there and he wasn't much better, but it was like he just said I can't do this with you right now. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. How the relationship's going to be moving forward, I don't know.

But I don't blame the guy. I don't disagree with you. I thought you pull the goalie, you read the riot act to the group, but then you put the goalie back in a couple shifts later. Because if you're going to read the riot act to the players who are out to lunch, then they get an opportunity to wake up. Oughton-Jurr sat there beside Ray, not getting the opportunity after he got yelled at to fight back. Now again, Pete DeBoer has way more coaching experience than all of us, but the point being is he saw something

and he even pointed it out and kind of doubled down afterward and said this guy's lost seven of eight against this team. Like the sample size is there, which I thought was you don't need to share that information at the end of the season. The thing is, you know who's also lost those games? Pete DeBoer, that's that coach of the Stars, and Jamie Ben, and Tyler, like everyone that plays on that team has lost, not just Autinger. My experience tracking coaches and the way they handle goalies, De Boer just has no faith

in Otter. That's my opinion. Is that he was waiting for him to fail and when he saw it he said, I'm not doing this. You're out. I don't think he was waiting for it. Every coach is optimistic that the guy that's high priced and highly sought after and highly talked about is going to get over the hump and he didn't do it.

I don't think he was waiting for anything. When I say waiting for it, I'm saying in the back of his mind he's concerned about it. Not predicting it, not hoping it happens. He's just seen something. He's seen something and he looks at them and he doesn't like it. And he let into and then he called the timeout and pulled them. Right. Like Andre started skating back in. Well he called the timeout and was yelling at the group so that's why I was saying pull them, yell at the group, then put them back

in and say I need to see a response from you. It's like a challenge and he didn't get that opportunity. Now he might have come in and still allowed you know they've given up for whatever it ended up in this game. Edmonton was gonna win that game anyway but but the point being is okay fine I just he made a point after the game to talk about it and then kind of double down on it where the series is over he could just go listen our best players that didn't feel like they had it but we're gonna be ready for next year and it was like no no I'll just make this point like you're seeing what I see seven of eight and all of that. So at the end, it's funny how when you look at it, 10 days before that Dallas was, you

know, a rock star team. Like and all of a sudden now people are like, wow, Dallas is like San Jose. They can't get past that. You know, the second, the third round or whatever. There's still a really good team. Really, really good. They just got to get over the hump. Carolina's a really good team.

The Leafs are a really good team. There's a lot of really good teams. They just got to, they can't, you know, it's tough to get over that hump to your point. Yeah. It's tough. All right. We'll come back and catch up with Karlo Kolyakova. We've got uh...

something on the chase as well a little bit later in the this afternoon in terms of what they're up to recently they've won five games in a row and also there's a scoop coming out of doug smith of the star about yannis toronto yeah raptors will throw that out there and it's possibility could be a big month in the city man while. Well, your boy, Tommy Fingers, he was talking about it too. He's sniffing around that the Raptors are kicking tires on things. So we'll tell you about that. We'll get into it. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 2.

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he went on a streak where just the way he approached it because he kind of loafed around the course and it was ho-hum, he would rip it 340, put it onto the green to 15 feet and make everything and that's what Scott He's doing right now Like he just kind of floats around the course where he looks so under control and he doesn't look Anxious at all and his ball striking is so good This guy's crushing everyone and for everybody he uses the claw

Like he uses the claw like he uses the claw yet to putt Yeah for everyone that thinks you're a loser to use the claw the best player in the world by a Big margin is using the claw within 10 feet Yeah, and he just kind of wheels around and he just he's a god like he's so good man No, he is and he listen is it is it kind of a boring personality? Yeah I don't know I don't care Hayes I used to love the guy in the red shirt on Sundays that was a must watch but I'm just as fascinated watching this guy because just because he always gets it done.

Right. Always wins. And ultimately that's what really matters. What made Tiger, Tiger was he won. Now he won at an even more extreme rate yeah i would have flop shots and shots out of the rough yes and that and it was excitement level that's why it was amazing he would see and i won over people's heads and you go how's he gonna get out of this and he would hit it the deepest rough on seventeen with a one-shot lead and hit a pitching wedge from two hundred and twelve that would go to eight it was just like what yeah and sheffler doesn't do that that's why honestly he like Spieth was saying over

the weekend the guy had his club control is unlike anything anyone's ever seen he hits everything perfect and what I think is terrifying for everybody else on tour is now that he consistently wins and he's won so much he's not he's never gonna get more nervous he's gonna get more comfortable. So it's not a scenario where he's gonna get the whiskey mitts on 18 somewhere, he's immune to that now. Like this guy is just gonna hit the perfect shot

every single time, and if he has a lead after 54 holes, he's like Tiger Woods, it's over. You're not beating him because he's not gonna shoot seventy five he's gonna shoot a sixty eight asleep for seventy in his sleep and he's the more he wins the more compelling he becomes right that's the truth the more you win the bigger the aura becomes and uh...

shout out to scottie schaeffler in the overdrive pg picks brought to by tailor-made but he did more performance, and speed from your golf ball, it's time to switch. Learn more about the all-new TP5 and TP5X at TaylorMadeGolf.ca. So Doug Smith wrote in the Star yesterday, I believe, that he has been told there's mutual interest between Giannis and the Raptors. Now it's pretty obvious why the Raptors would have interest in Janus. I mean clearly the flip side of it is Janus who he will control where he's going to go.

Right? He's he's all the everything is in his court. If he wants out of Milwaukee, he's going to say it and he's going to tell them where he's going to go. So this is going to be different from the Kawhi Leonard scenario where Kawhi didn't have that kind of power. I guess he could have technically gone public and said I'm not showing up, I'm not going to do it. But San Antonio flipped him, they didn't ask him, he didn't have any say in it. This will be different. Giannis is not just going to wake up one day and be told you're going to Toronto. Do you think there's any connection with this possibility and the fact that Masai is still

sticking around to kind of nurture this relationship where they were like... Keith Pally? Well, they probably were like, hey, you know, you're probably next. And he was like, oh yeah, well, to be honest, you think he's coming here without the relationship that I have with him? So they kind of step back a little bit. I think it's the ultimate power move if you're Messiah Absolutely, but you got to get them Well, and that's the thing like yeah now there's you know a belief that you'd have to flip Scotty Barnes in order for that

To happen like why would like Yannis is maybe the best player in the game. He's certainly a top five player He's 30 it's gonna be a top five player probably for the next five or six years So Milwaukee kind of want him coming to join Scotty Barnes? That's where it gets interesting. I mean, deals in the NBA, you know, we mentioned Kawhi. Look what the Clippers gave up to go get Paul George to appease Kawhi Leonard. It was one of the worst trades in the history of professional sports. One of truly the worst trades of all time.

Well, if they're asking for that, then you just don't do it then. That's the question. But what I would say is if Scotty, and I don't think Masai would have the stomach to move off Barnes, because I think he really believes he's continuing to develop and grow into a superstar. You got a whole off season to make multiple moves.

If you acquire Yannis, then that puts you on the clock to win immediately. Maybe then you get into free agency in a different way than you thought you would. If you're going to acquire Yannis, then that puts you on the clock to win immediately. Maybe then you get into free agency in a different way than you thought you would. If you're going to acquire Yannis, obviously that ninth overall pick is going the other way plus multiple picks. But they have some assets, they've got all their picks moving forward. It may be a complicated trade, but it also may get to a point if, and this feels a pie

in the sky type of scenario but if Yanis decides he wants to come to Toronto that is advantage Toronto in terms of what they're what they have to give up in that scenario right if he wants out Milwaukee decides it's in our best interest to move on but he only wants to go to Toronto kind of hand you know ties your hands if you're Milwaukee in terms of demanding what you believe you need to get. Would you do the trade if Scotty Barnes was going the other way? Like if they insisted on Scotty Barnes?

I think I would. I think I would. Yes. Yes. Yanis is a top five player. He's Yanis. He's 30. I wouldn't do it for Kevin Durant.

Like no chance of doing that for Durant. But is Scotty Barnes ever going to reach the level of Yannis? I don't think so. I don't think so either. I think it's not reasonable to expect that. Yes. He's a good player, a very good player. It may be a perennial all-star. Yeah. But if they're going to get really stupid, because if you look at that trade with the Clippers and OKC, it wasn't just Shea Gilder's Alexander. It was like five other guys and Picks, I believe. And Picks. Yes. For Paul George. It was a crazy trade, man. It was a crazy trade with of the society and or it was like five other guys and pics and pics yes it was Paul George it was a crazy trade and it was a crazy trade with the Clippers and

Steve Ballmer and cut Kawhi just they fell into the trap of we got to have the two guys we got Kawhi we got to have George that's who he wants he's from LA too just give him whatever and the clip and the Thunder Sam Presti just pulled a magic trick out, basically. They just danced around the Clippers and Lawrence Frank and everyone else involved in that front office. Yeah, so I guess the way to put it is if Yannis is available and he wants to come here, everything is available.

Everything is on the table. Love Scotty, love RJ Barrett, love all these... You do whatever you have to to get Yann honest and then you make them happy and you build around them And hopefully you're competitive because the Eastern Conference the Pacers are in the NBA finals right now You know good team not a not a all-time great team the East appears to be wide open And I think you think the Knicks do you think the Knicks diehards are just devastated that they lost to the Pacers or the chance to go to the final? Yes, that one's gonna sting man. That one's gonna sting because you know, Indiana's not it's not Boston It's not Miami. It's not this like perennial powerhouse. They've got a really good run. They're a really good team

I think they got a chance to push up on Oklahoma City, but That was your if you're in New York it's like what more could you ask for? You get the Pacers, you got, you know, this is your opportunity and they couldn't take advantage of it. So yeah, I think this will be an interesting month like between Yanis, maybe Kevin Durant, maybe others on the Raptor side of things and then on the Leaf side the next month we're gonna talk about Marner and Tavares and trades and Sam Bennett and everything else. Well it's interesting you bring up the leafs you talk about an opportunity like up to nothing against Florida.

Tampa Bay is gone. The Boston Bruins are gone. It's like there was no real monster after that. There was an opportunity there man and i've got my shan overtime that's a great and that is something true living said on thursday where everyone's focused on game five and seven for obvious reasons but he he made a point of reference in game three european nothing in three one in that game

you gotta close that game out yeah you win europe three nothing now maybe when you're sure comes back and wins it anyway they might because they're that good but probably not and You know anything could happen against Carolina, but I I think they probably win that series and I think they're in a great I know right now, but how do you think LA is sitting there now? Like you know same type of situation up to nothing in their series against Edmonton and got an opportunity to get it out By field and Bouchard bats it out of the air that was her or i believe right because i would have made it three one of that sir yes that would have made it three games to one like a curtains like

they're just so many different tsn turning points in a series in a playoff run in the season where that that you're right like we could focus on games five and seven because they were awful like there's no describing and getting around it but you know the least had an opportunity in game three like things could have looked a lot different you know that's that's really what it is and and you know Florida finds a way and then they get

their legs underneath them and the rest is history. But that's, you know, you can say who coulda, woulda, shoulda, but it's unfortunate because there was a real opportunity there. You know, for the LA Kings, for the Toronto Maple Leafs, for teams that were damn good teams, like, you know, really good teams. But something came up short. Now they gotta find, they gotta regroup and,

you know, we'll see what a guy like Tree has got up his sleeve here well a lot of pressure on him man like i would say more pressure on messiah if we're talking about the two teams because of what's happened with shanahan and what's going on with MLSC and the raptors you know they've had a few years here where it's been ugly they gotta start moving and i think messiah's gotta make sure you can sell it and land it like this is what i can do and this is

what i'm going to do But tree-living you know has is starting in a better position in terms of the talent He has on his team how good of a team they are what they expect to do they expect to be in the playoffs It's mandatory got to make the playoffs, then you got to build from there All right, Carlo Coli Acovo coming up Tim Kirchchgen of ESPN at around 6.30 on the Jays being red hot recently. We saw Yankees Dodgers over the weekend. The Rockies are 9 and 50.

They have nine wins. So it's the obligatory Colorado Rockies conversation we'll get to as well with Tim in about 45 minutes. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. All right, Tim Kirjian coming up. I had another moment yesterday where I proved why I hate review and It was a goofy one that George Springer play a third where he's hopping around and he gets tagged out

I know that was stupid. It was and I don't believe the story afterwards I find it hard to believe that he was stretching or he had a hammy issue, so he was hopping around to test it. I think you got caught, George. I don't know what the hell you were doing. It was silly. They were rallying.

It was the fifth inning. In the end, it doesn't matter because they won. They won the game. It doesn't matter. That's amateur hour for a veteran guy to be doing that. Give me a break. Yeah, it's silly. It shouldn't happen. He got caught.

He was staring at the dugout. Yeah, he was embarrassed. Yeah, and Schneider said, well, it's because he was testing. And that's why he started going into a stretching routine, which is a vet move to try to come up with some reason why you're doing that. Would you be fine with Vladdy started stretching at second base against Seattle? Right, when he got picked off at second. Yeah, that was Minnesota. That was Minnesota. That's what it Minnesota? Yeah, sorry, it was the Twins.

Ah, just stretching, shoulder issue, got a labrum problem. My favorite thing, I'll never forget Vlady getting picked off. As soon as he got picked off, he did the horn signal. Yeah, call it in. Call it in. And that was like, you weaseled, They're not like don't do it. Yeah, he was out It was so embarrassing that is an issue in sports man the amount of players in baseball and in basketball that start going Hey review it. Yeah, and then then you look at the tape and like what are you reviewing? I was doing it's ego. It's so ego like they literally tell themselves I'm not out or I didn't do this and it's like how stupid could you be to think that they weren't gonna call that Well, and that was a big issue with Luca

Remember with Jason kid a couple years ago in the NBA final when he was yelling about you better review that you better review that And then they reviewed it and he was wrong in the end. They're like dude. You're so petulant You're stupid like what are you yelling about stupid? You stink out here, but listen, I i'm not i'm not letting spring off the work he's he's the veteran of that team can't be caught doing that but what are we reviewing that for yeah like a guy safe at third who like you know he's jumping around like the on called it safe and you go back and review it date that's why we have review to review about

a guy jumping around the back, not like sliding and going through it, but that's different. You know, like some guys slides into second base, it happens and he's got too much momentum and he blows past the bag. That's a baseball play. Yesterday wasn't. He was safe. It wasn't even close. It was a cutoff guy. I don't even think he knew the ball was there clearly and he's hopping around doing whatever he's doing. He's goofing around. Yeah around yeah and it's just to me that is I guess I'm letting him off the hook a little bit because I hate the review process necessary and it's not even down to review that oh he was a mill you know

exactly in the air jumping right a play at the plate a play you know whatever a bang-bang play that's not what that was if he's sliding into third and you think he's got on the review it that was like a a hidden ball trick type of review which to me is uh... somewhat of a waste of time if you were named as are of all future reviews in all of sports and you were the like the brainiac that everyone brought in and they said what is your big picture idea for review moving forward in all the big sports?

What do you say? Oh man. You can't have a blanket approach to every sport. They're all different. Would it be simple as let's tone it down a little bit? Yeah, so 100% I would tone it down. And certain ones I would just simply get rid of. I would just simply get rid of.

Like I can tell you the offside rule would be gone in the NHL for me Go on the offside rule is very simple for me. I don't know why Jerry doesn't adopt it Ongoing rush if if they don't like it's got to be that play any puck that hits the goalie the boards turn back Whatever, it's one shot and anything after that you're not reviewing it. Yeah, it's very simple I don't know why they don't adopt that even I don't like the high stick 40-seconds earlier that happened in medicine hat last night Yeah, or one would have been four to mechanic scores and they go back and like I can eat Frankie and the guys are like Where is this from? What are they reviewing? Oh same thing. I stick on that exact play. Yeah, okay

I look at that. You're not going to look at it something. No, you're not finding anything. I hate that rule I hate it. So there we go. We all see it the same way Final hour coming up Carlo Coli Akavu Tim Kirkjohn and our best bets overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 2 Bold, vibrant, and diverse as you are. I Heart Pride Canada. From dance anthems to pop icons. Let's celebrate diversity and love. And hits from 2SLGBTQ plus Canadian artists. Be yourself and stand proud. It's your soundtrack for Pride and Beyond.

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