OverDrive - OverDrive - June 22, 2026 - Hour 1 - Darren Raddysh

Episode Date: June 22, 2026

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jonas Siegel for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys dive into Brady Tkachuk traded to the Panthers, his departure from Ottawa, the shift of American players in Canada, his fit in Florida, Ottawa's next steps on the roster and the Hockey Hall of Fame inductees for the class. Toronto Maple Leafs defenseman Darren Raddysh joins to discuss signing with the Maple Leafs, playing with his hometown team and the roster in Toronto and Wyndham Clark's U.S. Open win.

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TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home, smart speaker, up on TSN. two up on YouTube live later tonight, streaming on Crave. Brian Haseo, God, Jeff O'Neill, Jonas Siegel of The Athletic in here. How we feel this afternoon? Wow, what

a day. What a 24-48 hours if you're big Keith Kuchuk. Huh? Like, what a turn of events? Son gets traded to his other son's team and then he

goes into the hockey hall of fame. Yeah. Pretty, pretty big stuff. That's just an all-time great 24 hours. They just announced this year's inductees into the Hall of Fame and Keith Kachuk, who's been waiting for a long time. He's been eligible for almost 20 years. And obviously a coincidence, but Brady gets flipped to Florida, which I'm sure Keith

is very happy about. And then the next day, it gets a phone call. Now, maybe you flushed it because it was a Canadian number. It was a 416 number. That's harsh. Maybe he flushed it. But I'm sure he called back once he listened to the message and found out, hey, I'm going into the Hall of Fame, which means they all got to come up here, right?

The Kitchucks have to come up. They've got to be an Ontario. Congrats to everybody that got inducted to, including our friend Brian Burke. well-deserved, very happy for Brian Burke. Patrice Bergeron, Carrie Price, Peca René is another one. That surprised me a little bit. I've got to be honest. Noodle's not here today, so he will have his commentary,

and I'm sure he will disagree with my point on that, but how Curtis Joseph isn't in there, I had a Pecker-Ren-A-R-A. I have no idea. Yeah, if the argument Curtis Joseph, like there's no cups or whatever the argument is, and I still believe the number is fourth wins ever from a goaltender, and he's still not in there. So I don't care whatever argument you have that he shouldn't be in there. Curtis Joseph should be in the Hall of Fame.

Absolutely. It's a joke that he's not. I agree. But congrats to Peca Renee. Yeah, congrats to Pecker-Rene, who just all of a sudden vaulted right over him. Had to get him in. Had to get him in. Had to get him in.

I just ask you guys about that process. Do you think you just need, like, one person who's, like, boosting your case? and like in these meetings, it's like it has to be Peca Rene. Like, do you think you just need like one like crazy backer? Probably someone really. But I think about it like this for Kujo's case. If like Peca Rene had to wait a year and Kujo went in this year and then Pecker Rene the next year, would anyone just be like beside themselves saying, I can't believe

that he didn't go in ahead of, no one. Nobody. Nobody. Nobody. So I can't figure it out and it bothers me more year after year. and we all know people that every we all know the people that are associate and i just strongly disagree that curtis joseph not because i know them it's just fourth wins all time and goaltending how many more wins do you got to get yeah awesome awesome career awesome goalie uh i agree but uh also

cindy curley getting in she was uh the captain of the american team back throughout the 80s and early to mid 90s uh so it's a it's a really good class and like you mentioned keith kuch is going in and he had a great career too Like every year it was, will Kachuk get in? Will Ronek get in? Will McGilley get in? Will Rod Brindamore get in? You know, there's like, and obviously Ronick recently got in

and obviously Keith Kachuk is in. So it happens. And every generation has it. And I'm curious, today's not the day to get into this because there's just too much going on. This is for like a July 28th day. I'm going to have a list of the players who are playing in the league right now that will be the future had to wait 15 years to get into the Hall of Fame players

because that's a great list. The great list, because there are guys playing right now. You're predicting they're going to have to wait. Yes, where they're not quite Hall of Fame. So can I give you a couple that just come to mind for me right away? Okay, go ahead. I love this game. That's a great game.

Brad Marshand. That's a very good one because I don't know if he's a first ballot guy. What about Phil Castle? Phil might be around there. John Tavares. John, for me, should go in right away. Like, John's a first ballot hall of famer for me. Like, he's exceptional status.

The juniors, first overall, the points, the production, captain of multiple teams. But you just said, like, 50. Is he within 10 years? Is he getting in? For me, John Tavorous is getting in within the first two or three years. You're probably right. Of eligibility.

Personally, I think John Tavorous, I would put him as a first ballot Hall of Famer. Now, if there's four other, if, you know, Crosby and Ovec, there's other guys, Malkin are all in the same class, then John might have to wait or will probably wait in that scenario. But I think Tavaros would get in pretty quickly. But you're wrong because there's just too many, there's going to be too many guys. Okay, so maybe John is going to have to wait. Like Stephen St. Like just another name that comes to mind. Like Stephen Stamco's first ballot.

Stamco's getting in very quickly. Gatslap, is Getslap in? I don't know if he's been retired long enough. But he is an example of a guy, a borderline guy for me, but I think we'll get in. Corey Perry? Cory Perry will get in, I think. So we should just do a whole week. These are more locks, though.

These are, although maybe some of them will have to wait. They will. Yeah, like some of them will have to wait. Now, will they wait 15 years, 20 years? That I don't know. You know who, honestly, this is, I think, timely. Brady could choke is a great example. Brady might have to wait 15 years.

He might not get in. He may not get in. Right now he's not a Hall of Famer. No. But he goes to Florida. Wins a cup. Wins a cup or two. Puts up big numbers, plays until he's 38.

It has basically Keith Kachuk's career with a cup or two and a gold medal. I think the gold medal this year for the Americans is going to boost their resume come Hall of Fame voting time 15 years from now. I heard you guys last week. It's crazy that Brindamore is not in. He was a defining player of that era. As a player? He was not a defining player. I want a cup.

He was a great defensive forward. I don't know. He's not a defining player of the generation. Okay, defining is maybe too strong. Okay, he's in like the Trindemore era. Tier three, tier three. Yeah, the Keynes had to chime in today. Like, the bottom line is, I think he's a Hall of Fame player,

and you put him up against the numbers and the stats and the accolades of other players. He should be in. And let's close the case on the Hall of Fame debate. But can we just also point out he's currently coaching? like do you think he's going into the Hall of Fame as a coach? Like he's going to, you know, they're playing next year. They're in Florida next. Sorry guys, I'm not going to be here.

But does that mean like, let's say he retires, I don't know, 15, 20 years from now? Yeah. Does that mean he'll only go in as a coach? As one or the other, I think. You can't do both? As far as I know. There's no combo? I don't believe so.

But again, he's currently coaching. Like Carolina posted, hey, he's put him in. He's a coach. I think they're talking about the player. Possibly. But that's not kind of the indication in that tweet. Anyway, we love Rob Brindamore. I think he's got a Hall of Fame resume

his whole career, clearly, but he's got to wait. Anyway, good to see you, Jonas. Noodles will be back tomorrow, right? Let's slam the goalies then. Well, I want to get to the Brady Kachuk stuff, but I'll begin with Sergey Bobrovsky to the Maple Leafs. Have you written about that yet?

I have not. There are some rumors out there that the Leafs could be kicking tires if he's not going to return to Florida. I have a free agent. agents that I like for the Leafs. He did not make my the 10 that I have. Okay, how would you respond though if it happened? It depends what the contract is.

Let's say it's reasonable. What do you think the contract would be? I have no idea. But let's, for argument, say, give me an idea what the contract is. It's three years, seven million per. Don't like it. He's old. Like, it's and he wasn't good last year. Like, the team wasn't good, so I don't know what to make of that.

I don't know. I probably wouldn't like that. Yeah. I, I Just because you have capitalization, I mean, you should spend it stupidly. Well, I'm nervous about it because he'll be 38 in September. And I still think Wall can be pretty good. But he's not here. Joseph Wall is not here. I know, but that's like part of the exchange that you're going to end up making, right?

I know, but that ship is sale. Like, you made your decision. Wall is gone. Okay. But I understand what you're saying? No, I mean? Like, that's the trade you're making? I don't.

Well, they've made that choice. But who else is the trade they're going to make? Like, I don't see Stolar's Hilderby, Octi Mov. I would, getting them to the playoffs. I think that's tough. I agree. Be risky. Be risky.

Some people were telling me, oh, just run, like, just the stuff I hear on the streets. Like, just Hilda be in Oktiama, if that should be the Tucson moving forward. Oh, my God. Okay, what are we doing here? Yeah. So, but you're right. Is it going to be Bobrovsky? I don't know who it's going to be.

But there might be some other goaltender coming into the situation. I think there has to be. and that may include Stolar's going out, but if you're going to replace him, it's someone who you think can start 50 games. Like I can live with a true number one in Hildaby as your backup. I can't live with Stolars in Hilderby as your tandem when Stolars is just not going to start more than 30 games or 35 games.

He's just not going to do it. And then you're relying on 40 to 50 from Hildobey, who I think has potential, but he's a raw young goaltender in the league. Yes. That's just asking way too much. Do you guys actually think that the Florida Panthers are willing to try to run it back

and they've just brought in Brady Kachuk? Like if you look at the way that the configuration of their forward line, pretty stacked. Like if you want to talk about a forward group and a defensive corps that's meant or built to win a championship, but do you think they're looking at this situation without Bobrovsky in it? like do you not think they're going to make it work with him because he's been so important

and I know he did not have a great year and I know he's older but if he's not going to be the guy that gets the job done in net who are they going to get to do the job well Spencer night went to Chicago maybe the guy in Winnipegap would it scare you at all if they were just like we're good like does that set off an alarm for you at all uh what does that even mean like if it's just like yeah I think we're ready to turn the page to Bob yeah I wouldn't be surprised. Wouldn't that freak you out a little bit? Like, why are they?

I mean, we asked the same questions with Rattish, right? Like, why would Tampa? But it sounds like Tampa was actually like talking about bringing him back at a certain number. Yes. And now maybe Florida's trying to do the same thing. Maybe he's pushing. I could see there being an issue there where Bob is saying, look what you just did for Brad Marchand.

Why did he get that? Yeah. Why did you give him $30 million? And that always bugs, guys, that someone from another organization just walks onto the scene. just walks onto the scene and gets the money and you've been there battling and winning championships and it's like, oh, now my contract's a problem? It bothers guys.

Totally. I could see that being a problem. But what I think you're driving at O and I agree with, they have a plan, Bill Zito. They're not winging it and getting to July 5th and saying, uh-oh, we forgot the goaltender. We better call around and see what's out there. I totally agree with that.

They have a plan. Whether it's Bob coming back, Hellebuck. Halibuck being acquired. I have no idea how they'd have the pieces to pay for that. But you talk about an explosion where, again, there's a lot of animosity to this Kachuk trade for a variety of reasons. I don't understand the animosity. You can go ahead and explain what your definition of the animosity is, and I'll give you my thoughts on it.

Okay. Well, I mean, he bailed on them. He demanded a trade, right? And after a month or two ago, he was whining about how everyone's bugging him about wanting out, which was completely disingenuous, when he came up and claimed that it's frustrating. People keep talking. I've done, you know, I'm committed to Ottawa. No, you aren't. And he wasn't dead.

He was out. He was gone. So completely disingenuous the press conference he had two months ago. There's no disputing that, though. There's no arguing against it. He was gone. There is no disputing that. And it is disingenuous.

And I don't like the fact that he went there and said, I don't know where that's coming from. It never came from my. mouth and now we're sitting here today. But the one thing people have to understand, and some guy sent me a note on Twitter, and he said, I hope you rip Brady Kachuk today for, you know, what happened in him going to the Florida Panthers. Well, what happens if Steve Stales and the organization wanted a different player, some kind of

what they deemed as an upgrade on Brady Kachuk, and they said, Brady, you're out, and he wanted to stay, and we're bringing in David Pasternak and somebody else. Would the same guy say to me, you better rip Steve Stales for what he did? There's no loyalty in professional sports at all. There isn't. If there's an upgrade or something else available to an organization, they're going to pull the trigger on it. And now it's flipped where the players, and Frank Carrado described it in a tweet, perfectly. Now the script is flipped, and now the players are saying, we got 10 years, 12 years, and we're going to do what we want.

we're not just going to say, okay, we got drafted this organization, I'm on a long-term contract, I'm from the States, I'm living in Canada, they're doing what they want, and there's no loyalty either way. Teams will get rid of you in a second, and players will just say, you know what, I'm not into this, I want to go play with my brother, or I want to play in the United States, and I want to do what I want to do. And I don't blame them for that, because my dad told me when I left my house to play in the NHL, and it was, I will say this, it was different then, because I was like, I got drafted, I'm very honored. I'm loyal to my team.

And quite frankly, I didn't have the power to do anything else. I wasn't a good enough player at a young age to say, you know what? I'm done here. I want to go play somewhere else. But he's like, you're a piece of meat to the organization. And for the most part, you are. You go and do your thing and all they care about winning. And as I just mentioned, at any time the organization could say,

we want something different and you're out. How many times you've seen a guy get drafted? He goes up on stage and they shake your hand. Oh, we love you. You're going to do this. You're going to do that. And a month later, they're involved in a. package that brings in a great veteran player because they wanted the kid that they just drafted

that they loved. There's no loyalty, man. That's it. It's cutthroat, and everyone talks about Kelly McCriman and the Vegas Golden Knights being ruthless, Julian Breezebaugh in Tampa being ruthless. They make ruthless decisions. Now players are doing the same thing, and I don't blame them one bit. You get one career, and however, if you have the ability and the power to dictate what

you want to do for the 10 or 12 years that you get to play in the NHG, I don't blame them one bit. So I get it. If you're an Ottawa Senators fan, you're probably pissed off right now. Because as you just mentioned, you described it as he bailed on the team. I look at it as a situation where he had an opportunity to say, I want to go join my brother down in Florida. And for the Ottawa Senators, you didn't win with Brady Kachuk. And Steve Stales got some assets.

He's got to flip that around and do something and try to do something better. So it can't be worse. They didn't win with them. They couldn't get out of the first round. Well, I mean, they're obviously worse today than they were two days ago. I mean, I don't, here's where I stand on a couple of things you just said. Some of it, I think the angst is against the Ottawa senators, because you referenced a team that has taken up more oxygen in this league over the last 10 years

that anyone else, and they've only been around for 10 years, and that's Vegas. Vegas just told a team in their division, no. Edmonton called up, so we want to interview Bruce Cassidy. No, not happening. And was it applauded? Absolutely. Everything you just said there was echoed to Vegas. Why? Ruthless. And then Ottawa goes and capitulates to Brady Kachuk and goes, fine, we'll send you to Florida. You know what Florida's plan is next year?

They're not chasing Montreal down. They're not chasing Tampa. I'm not sure they even care about Buffalo. They're chasing the team that backed toward into the playoffs. The Ottawa Senators. and so you referenced, yeah, it's a players league, they're ruthless too. The reality is it's actually not, it's flipped too far the other way because these guys are, they all have no movement clauses. They all have no trade clauses.

But wait a second. So Brady, who hands those out? The team does, yes, I get it, but everyone's got them. And that's, the reality is every team doesn't now because literally every team doesn't. And it's on the league to figure that out. I think it's a serious issue that the league has to rectify. Because everyone's saying right now, and believe me, I've been an advocate. kit for movement in the league, but it's got to be equal.

Everyone's referencing the NBA. Let me quickly finish this point. That's how everyone's describing it. It's the NBA now. It's a false equivalency. Do you know how many people in the NBA have a no trade clause? Two. Two players.

Do you think Luca Dodgers had one? No, he didn't. Brady Kuchuk is not a power broker in the league. If Connor McDavid goes, I want out and I'm going to Florida, you're like LeBron, man. I can't really argue against this. This is like Austin Reeves saying, I'm only going here. This is Julius Randall saying, nope, only going to this team.

And then the team actually buckling and saying, okay, fine. Like, I look at Ottawa. I'd be pissed if I was an Ottawa fan at the front office. How you didn't get Anton Lundell or at a minimum that 2029 pick completely unprotected is a joke. Like, you didn't have to capitulate to this guy. He has two years left. You want out? All right, we'll see.

we're not just sending you to Florida. Like, how dare you just go to Florida? Why? Because Matthew's down there? So what? We paid you. You got a contract. You can ask out, and we might conclude we have to get you out because now it's poisoned, and it probably was going to be. But you've got to give me more teams. And you got to allow me to flip you to a number of spots where we get equal value.

And I just don't see that being the case here. Well, that's something the league's got to look at then. Because if you're going to have a situation where it seems like all these guys have come together, whether it be any player, American, Canadian, European, whatever. And it's like, I don't know, many must have a hell of a program. They've thrown themselves in the mix. It's like mini, Vegas, Tampa, Florida, and whoever else, the five. And it's like that's where we'll go.

It's like, so the league's going to have to look at this and say, how are we going to maintain a competitive balance where all the sudden alarm bells are going off in players' heads now where it's like, well, I guess that's all you have to do. You just say, I want out, and basically that's the team I want to. Or maybe you could just, you've got to do your homework and find out the teams that don't have the assets to get the deal done and just throw them in there too. Because you just know they can't get it done. And that's what I think there's some gratuitous, hey, well, we'll sprinkle these couple teams in there too.

But Steyo said it at the pressories. Like basically it was Florida. that's the only place he was going to go to. So again, I understand what you're saying. If I'm Brady Kachuk, I'm living my life. You're in South Florida now. You're playing with Matthew. The reality is what has changed this whole conversation too,

but it's also not exclusive to Canada. But there is an element of, I don't want to play in Canada anymore, which is concerning, right? And I think should be concerning for the league. I don't have an answer on how you address it. You can't force it. You can't bring warm weather up here.

get the government to change taxes. And the reality is if an American is an American, this is always a foreign country. Doesn't mean they don't love it. They don't mean they're not comfortable up here. It's not their home. But it's not exclusive to the Canadian teams in terms of Florida and Vegas, maybe Tampa,

maybe a couple other teams. The Rangers aren't in on this. The Bruins aren't in on this. Detroit's not in on this. Chicago's not in on this. Buffalo just had a magical year first time in 15 years. They're not in on any of this. Like some big,

big hockey markets in the states are also not in on this. And Steve Stahill said it in his presser. He was like, I would have liked to seen this through. And going back to the Stanley Cup finals, Brian, you mentioned Jordan Stahl in some of his comments where he said, some guys want to jump ship. And we talked about Jordan Stahl, how big of an impact he was in the playoffs and how Vegas viewed him. And they said time after time, we're having a big time problem with Jordan Stahl.

And we said all these teams in free agency are going to look at and say who's going to be the Jordan Stall we can find, the big guy to go in front of the net and bang home goals. Well, guess you that could have been for the Ottawa Senators? Brady could Chuck. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead.

Yeah. Jonas, where do you go out? I got to tell you, like, your two arguments, if you guys ever go into the Hall of Fame, those are your arguments. Because you both make great points. Like, I actually think I more agree with Jeff than I do with you, not surprising. Actually, that is kind of surprising. I just think there's been a double standard that he's talking about forever,

and we've always just kind of ignored it. We're always just like, yeah, it's cool for the team to play to trade you whenever they want, but when the player doesn't want to be there, it's like, oh my God, how can he possibly do it? How disrespectful? How can we never say that about G.S? He's right. I can't believe that he screwed that player. Quickly here.

One thing, I will say this, I think it's beyond egregious for any athlete to consider themselves a piece of meat. you're millionaires you're treated like gold like you're not but it's still your life like i understand you can still just be sent anywhere and this idea that it's like you're you're you know you'd be here at two in the morning you're going to clean up the room like you know let's let's relax maybe maybe maybe piece of meat is an aggressive term and it could be interchangeable piece but it was like 80 20 before and now it's maybe closer to 50 50 50 you probably think it's 60 40 no i'm like this is again this is very new in the NHL. It's Quinn Hughes.

I think it's probably for the better. It also makes the league more interesting. Like we have trades now. We have some intrigue. Players aren't just going to sit tight and be like... And then you have players who trust their teams to make good moves. And like, look what happened with McDavid. Like, do you like the things that they've seen well?

What about this element of it, guys? What about Brady Kachuk and the idea of... And I know I just mentioned the words from Steve Stales where he talked about seeing it through. What about his belief in that? happening. Two first round appearances after not making the playoffs in a long time

and they lost in the first round both times. Second time around was a four-game sweep to the Carolina Hurricanes. Maybe there was a belief there that he just didn't know if that was good. And I know, Brian, you talked about jumping ship and sticking with it. Maybe there's a belief that he feels like he's got a better chance

of win in Florida. Well, I mean, you can't, you can't, that's the elephant in the room, is that if you're talking about winning, going Florida or Vegas is a very smart decision. So maybe it's as simple as that, as opposed to just... It's the same in Vancouver. Like if Vancouver wasn't a tire

fire, do you think he was asking out? Like maybe, but they were on fire. It's the great unknown. Listen, they're all different situations. When he's left, Vancouver is the worst team in the league by a long shot. Now, Rutherford came out after and said, we've known for... It didn't matter. He was gone. Who knows? You know,

Dylan Larkin hasn't been in the playoffs in 10 years. He's from Michigan. An American. And in America. So you can't play the wallets that he's living in a foreign country thing or taxes thing or whatever. He wants out. Brady, though, to me, it's like you just made the playoffs the last two years. Ottawa's not some tire fire. They're a pretty well-run, pretty good competitive team.

Two first-down exits, like if you're trying to win, I don't know. Okay, but Jonas, like one team wins every year. But they're not, like you can't say they're close, can you? They're closer than 20 other teams. But not that team. Okay, but again, that's a separate other teams. So then why doesn't, like, why doesn't McKinnon won out? Because they're really good?

Are they better than Florida? They haven't won a cup? Florida won recently. I mean, they just won the president's trophy. They're pretty good. I don't know. Like, come on. Hallibuck, they won the president's trophy two years ago in Winnipeg.

And then had a terrible year. I know, but you can't. The point is you can't. They've also had no playoffs. That's the, because of Hallibuck. Yeah. Like, that's what's amazing. If I'm in Winnipeg, I'm looking at this, say, wait a minute,

you've been horrendous in the playoffs when we get there. But now it's our fault? Like, and now we're the ones that need to placate you, if that's true, and he's going to want out? I'm not, I get, I don't, Florida has to, they don't have to explain themselves at all. Nor does Vegas. They're incredibly well-run organizations. And they, you know what they have going for them? And this would be what I would want to get to if I'm running a team right now, anywhere else in the league.

This isn't just Canadian teams. I'm talking teams throughout the league, including the American teams. you need your players to recruit for you. Matthew Kuchuk is the best hype man in the NHL. That's kind of a one-on-one. I get the impression. Ikele's doing it. I get the impression.

What did much Martin say when he came back from the Four Nations? Who was he talking to? Mark Stone. That's a complicated situation. Mark Stone. What's it like in Vegas? What do you make of it? You don't think Mark Stone was leaning on him?

100% he was. They have players that are pumping the tires of the team, the market, the lifestyle. You got to get your players to do it. You got to get them to recruit. I mean, Jeff would know. Doesn't that stuff just happen naturally if a team is good and has a good culture, a good room? Aren't you just going to be like, what's it like in Carolina?

Oh, it's amazing. I think people are asking last year. But if they ask Quinn Hughes, what's it like in Vancouver right now? Oh, my God. It's great. He's obviously gone. You don't even get, if the team's garbage, you don't even get to the culture. Of course. It's the whole point.

No one's asking. This team sucks. Why would I even care about the culture? wasting their time on questions like that. If you see a rusty old piece of junk car on the lot, you're like, you don't ask how the sound system is inside of it. It's a piece of garbage. But what do you think of Joe from the bridge's idea saying if you ask out, you've got to avoid

your no movement clause? But the players are never going to accept that. I mean, obviously. It's collectively bargained. Like the reality is it's got to be something that they bargain. So we have to talk about this. What do you do? Because you said what the league needs to do something?

What the hell do you do? Well, you got to. you can only have X amount of no movement clauses per team. There's some kind of modification. To get through that process involving the PA and the owners, that is... 300 players in the league

have some form of trade protection. The Oilers just signed guys and gave them like no trade clauses. Like Connor Murphy. Like, it's crazy. Anyway, Pierre LeBron coming up in just over half an hour. Darren Radish coming up. He wants to be up here.

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Shout out to everyone's favorite, Wyndham Clark, for winning his second U.S. Open. Ridiculous that people couldn't stand that guy. I sent out a tweet to people complaining about him. I'm like, Tiger Woods is playing Grand Theft Auto in a neighborhood, rolling his car, and nobody cares, but this guy broke two little pieces of wood in a stall, and they hate him. It's bizarre.

I mean, it was a really weird weekend down there, like really strange. And the J's back home and in action tonight, Dylan sees on the mountains. so Bieber will start tomorrow after the rain out yesterday in Chicago. But it's been a crazy few days in the NHL, and the Leafs have been active. They made a trade. They hired someone, then a sign and trade,

and they brought in a good Toronto boy. GTHL alum. Here's the newest Maple Leaf, Darren Radish. How you doing, Darren? I'm doing good. Thanks for having me. Absolutely. Who did you play for the GTHL? I spoke to the Toronto Marley's growing up in Marl.

Marlboros, there for seven years. Yes. So George Bell, was that your home rink or what? No, it was a Tobico Canlan. Okay, so you're too young. Before I got there. Too young for George Bell. But you referenced that in your press conference today,

like playing in that league, being from Toronto as a reason why you'd want to be here. Like, why is your history, the way you grew up here in the city, why was that a part of the journey to get back here and ultimately? play for the Maple Leafs? Yeah, I think, you know, just, you know, growing up watching, watching them every day. And, you know, you always wanted to be like the guys on TV and, you know, getting the opportunity to play in the NHL. It's a special one. And I think, you know, every time you do come back to Toronto, it's always fun and it's always, it's always special.

So, you know, to get to do that every night, it's a dream for me. And, you know, I'm just looking forward to the opportunity. do. Darren, what was the first thing that entered your mind? I would assume when your agent first brought to your attention the possibility of playing in Toronto. Was it just being home, playing in front of friends and family? Was it putting on the jersey?

Is it this crazy media that everyone talks about these days? Like, what is the first couple things that entered your mind? I definitely was thinking about family. You know, the last year's been pretty tough for my family. and my dad was a big part of that. And he always grew up watching hockey and wanted us to play hockey. And it was always a dream of his for us to play in the NHL. And for my brother and I to get there, that's special.

But to play for Toronto, it's something that I cherish. And, you know, I'm looking forward to living out his dream and getting able to do that. Just a follow up on that with the media, you played in Tampa. like what was like what were the conversations about the media in Tampa versus the Canadian market because it's much talked about now with guys playing in Canada and what they have to deal with like what is your interpretation of what both markets can present? I think they're similar in their own rights. You know, obviously talking about bigger in Canada and in Toronto especially. You know, that's what everyone talks about. And probably so.

It's, you know, everyone here loves the game and everyone wants to, you know, everyone wants to see the team do well. So, yeah, you know, the markets are, like I said, pretty similar in their own rights, but, you know, hockey definitely takes the cake here in Toronto. With Darren Rattos. So in terms of Tampa and leaving Tampa, you had such a great year last year. You know, you put up 20 plus goals, 70 plus points. You know, you had been in Tampa now for a while. but what was it about last year that popped for you? What allowed you to kind of explode,

especially offensively the way you did last year? I think it was just getting an opportunity. You know, playing on the first power play, getting to play a lot of minutes. That helps and, you know, just, you know, trying to make sure you're doing the right things. And, yeah, you know, the opportunity that I got was awesome. And, you know, you just try to keep doing,

try and take a day by day and make sure you're giving them the best version of me yourself and, you know, I think everything just clicked in Tampa there and, you know, just fortunate to play with a lot of good players. Well, and your shot is something that, you know, a lot of people buzz about and it's been well-stated. Anyone that's seen you play, they've seen you, you know, take clapper after clapper after clapper. But I understand you were talking about this today that, you know, it's, you're more

than just a big shot on the point. Like, do you take offense by the fact that people continue to reference your shot? And, you know, how else would you describe your game beyond that for leave fans that are excited to have you in town? Yeah, like I said earlier, I think I'm a two-way defense man. I take pride of my own end. I like to, you know, playing the old is on a lot, but, you know, defense comes first. And if you're playing good defense, you know, the offense will come. And, you know, I really, like I said, I really take pride in my own end.

And I, you know, try to start from there. So we'll get you out of here in terms of, you know, I think something you were saying earlier today would a lot of people seem to believe could be happening here with the front office, John Chack and Matt Sundin, how active they could be over the next couple of weeks. Are you anticipating that? Like, is it your understanding the least are going to continue to make moves? Yeah, I think so. I think, you know, what they envision for this team is, you know, to get back to where they want to be.

and I think, yeah, I think, you know, there's going to be, there might be some change, but, you know, I'm looking forward to it. And like I said, I'm just excited to meet everyone. I'm excited to get to know all the guys and to get down there and, you know, get the season started. Well, congrats on the deal. Welcome home. It's going to be a lot of fun to see you play as a Maple Leaf starting next year. So I enjoy the summer.

And we'll catch up again in the fall. Thank you for doing this. Appreciate it. Thank you, guys. There's Darren Radish. the newest member of the Maple Leafs. What's with all the digs at the media, Jeff? Jeez.

It's just topical. It's talked about now because I got Patty Maroon on my rear end about this. I always give it back, but I always wonder what the player's thoughts are. That's all. I'm in the media, Jonas. I know.

I take digs at the media. Here's another layer to the Kchuk thing. That again goes both ways, because Radish could have stated. He could have gone to a number of teams in the league. He wanted to come up here. And this has been a reality in the league for a long time is that there is an opportunity for players

to be completely anonymous in a number of markets in the United States and live a lifestyle as a multimillionaire without anyone following, knowing you. You walk into a CVS tomorrow and no one knows who you are. No one. No one cares who you are.

The other part of that is, if you have a crappy day at work, nobody's asking you, why are you so bad yesterday? Now, and again, the reason for that is, and this is where it falls on deaf fears, because I know there's a lot of Leaf fans, a lot of Canadian hockey fans that are anxious about this. The media, this, the media, the media's got a job. They cover the team. You know why they cover these teams so much? Because they're so popular.

Yes, fans are interested. If those teams in the U.S. were equally as popular, they would be covered. To the same extent. Dallas Cowboys. Exactly. Okay, but let me just say this. The Chicago Blackhawks are covered and scrutinized. Not to the same extent as the Bears.

Not the same as the Cubs. What about the Philadelphia Flyers? Not like the Eagles. Not like the Phillies. You're telling me the New York Rangers, like they don't get covered like the Giants, like the Nick. Not even close, dude. Like not even close. They get covered there, but you go listen to WFAN in New York.

Go down and listen to them for two weeks. Tell me how often you hear the Rangers. I would guess zero times in two weeks. Now, right now it's particular because they're talking about the Knicks, the World Cups in town, but they'd be talking Yankees and Mets every single day. Every single day. You go to Philly right now. They're talking about Jalen Hertz and whether or not he can get back on the saddle next year.

They're not talking about whether or not, you know, the fly like how. How Joseph was. Tone should be the future captain. That doesn't, and I'm not saying they don't get covered. They do. And there's a lot of incredible journalists and reporters down there that cover them. But it's not with the same passion as it is here because the Leafs are the Leifes and the Oilers are the Oilers. And the Habs are the Habs.

Where in Florida, like you played in Carolina. They cover college basketball more than they did the hockey team, right? Why? Because that's what people wanted. more. Like that's, and I tell you, like Duke is bigger than the hurricanes from

someone who's there every day. I just have to tell my one story again about the one game where I asked the one guy. I came out and he was there and I don't want to say his name because he's such a great guy. And I said, did you think that was a penalty last night?

Like where I got tripped there and they got the puck and he scored the goal and he pulled me aside. He goes, come here, I want to talk to you. He goes, don't tell anyone, but I watched the game from my couch. I didn't really see the play. Exactly. Exactly.

There was, like, there would be a lot, I think there was a lot of days where there was no, there was no media. Like, there was, nobody wanted to ask any, like, it was nothing. And if you grab the sports page, and it was UNC football, it was NC State football, it was Duke, like, and then there would be a little blurb on the canes in the back, which is just, that's how it was. covered when we first got there. Nobody wanted us there originally. We just showed up.

It's because it's supply and demand. You know, like that's, and there's nothing the league can do about that. Canada's not going to stop. People to be interested in your product. That's good. Well, yes, but I want to ask you this because I do think this is where I wonder what Betman and company are thinking

because they're never publicly going to say anything. They're going to, hey, it's competitive league. And a lot of it is cyclical. I think that's important to point out. Right now those teams are hot. It'll spin out. he wanted to go to Florida when Florida was bad. And it'll spin the other way. Vegas, a reckoning is coming at some point.

If they're around for the next 100 years, they're not going to be competitive for every single year. They're not going to go to three finals every single year. It's not going to happen all the time. So sports is cyclical, but a Canadian team has not won a cup in 33 years. Players are now, you know, through reporting, kind of actively saying,

I don't want to be here. This is a cash cow for the league. It's Uber, like it's Uber. popular up here and if it starts to dampen, that should be concerning for your brand. It's such a small... It should be very concerning. You look at what's going on with the personnel alone.

Quinn Hughes is gone. Brady Cichuk followed him. Who knows what happens with Palibok in Winnipeg. McDavid's got a year and a half left or two years on his deal. And then Austin Matthews, it's like, what kind of future are we heading

for Canadian markets? And as much as I described, I think the players, you know, you got your career and you go and do what you want. And I'm happy for Brady that he gets to play with his brother and it's great for the family. But Canadian organizations or any other market has got to be saying, okay, we just got to stick to draft and develop and we've got to draft good players and develop them. And, hey, as you've spoken in the past, six months about how important the draft is for any organization.

But how fair is it to an organization? And I understand in pro sports, nothing's fair. But you draft a kid and you develop them and then what? three years. It's already started. Cutter Gochier got drafted by the great Philadelphia Flyers organization. He goes, you know what? Screw it. I'm not playing there. So it's like, what are you going to do?

You draft a player, it becomes good. And then all of a sudden you get two years out of him. He's like, I'm out of here. I don't want to play here. It's a tough scene, man. Totally disagree with you both on this. Okay, explain yourself. Okay, number one, it's too small a sample. This is like three or four players.

And some of them are American. One of them's Canadian. You're talking about Carmen David's Canadian. He isn't even, anyway, that's one part of it. The other part of it, those teams generally, like, if you manage your team well, you'll be successful, players will want to stay. They haven't been for the better part of a lot of these markets in the last 30 years.

Like, who's been the best run team in the last 30 years in Canada? And how do they stack up against the best run teams in the States? They just haven't been at, like, Montreal's very well run right now. Toronto had like that, Toronto had a good decade of being well run. They couldn't get over the top. I don't know. It's more about how you run your

100% I agree with you and ultimately that I'm sure would be the message from Betman to the seven Canadian owners get the right people in there don't suck make smart plays

don't suck but I'm talking about the fans here where if your brand is getting hit or taking shots that is the job of the commissioner to be concerned with that

but is the brand taking shots like what you don't think hockey Canada yeah you don't think NHL Hockey fans in Canada are more rattled today than they have been in a long time. What if he was Canadian? He just said, I want to leave.

And the four teams he wanted to go to were all American. Would you feel any different? He's not. But, again, he's not. I hear you. But, like, I think we're about to see Hughes Halebuk-Kuch-Exchuk exit the country. I think that's around the corner what Jonas just mentioned. There will be a Canadian guy that stands up and says, I'm done. Yeah.

Yeah. But, again, I'm not even talking about the players. Because you can't control that if you're the league. You can't. I don't think you can control this at all. What are you going to do? So then what is your message to Canadian fans? Yeah, exactly.

Well, I mean, to the fans, to the fans, I don't know. What do you say to the fans? The Winnipeg Jets won the President's trophy two years ago. What are you going to say? Is that be better? You guys have told me forever, like, what about the playoffs? We talk about it here all the time. I know.

They've had, like, less success in the playoffs generally than the team here. If he does walk, he is a fascinating case study because he's the one guy in the playoffs that doesn't play very good. And then all of a sudden, he just says I'm out too. So that one's interesting. Yeah. Okay. Peer LeBron coming up in 20 minutes.

He'll have some answers. Yeah. And Radish, interesting. I think they're bracing for the leaves to remain active here. Well, like, I'm waiting for the Riley trade and what that looks like. And then the nice one, I just think, like, if I were a leaf fan, I would be, like, on pins and needles. Like, about the likelihood of it happening? Yeah, and the likelihood of, like, it not, I don't know.

Not producing like a great. There sure is a lot of smoke around that guy for just a good young player who, like, plays hard, his points, goes to the net. Like, there's a lot of smoke around that. I guess I'm not smart enough to figure that one out. Okay. Well, we'll get into that and more coming up. We're marching towards Wednesday, Canada, Switzerland. Can't wait for that match on Wednesday.

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I think I gave you Harry Higgs or something like that, and I took Wyndham. But you know what I noticed? Outside of the fact that the crowds were terrible, like all weekend, they stunk. And then they were just ruthless to an American, which is weird. Dude, Eam and Lynch, what do you think? think of this haze, Eamon Lynch on the Gulf Channel said Long Island after the Ryder Cup

after Shinnock and there was something else out there along. He said they don't deserve another event. They're just, they've gone over the top. Yeah, I don't deserve it. I wouldn't disagree. You know, the crowds were brutal, but what stood out to me, you took

Sheffler and he finished top five. I took Sammy Burns, he finished second. Sheffler, to me, what became pretty clear to me this weekend is He's starting to get the Tiger treatment where everyone's just rooting for him to win every week. Why wouldn't say? I think that's awesome. I agree with you.

But, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, Tiger got to a point where everyone went. They just wanted to be able to say, I see, I'm here to see Tiger win. Yeah. But I think they've been looking to gravitate to something, and it's Scotty Sheffler because he's got the game, and he's been winning everything in the last five years. So they're like, okay, that's the guy now. Right. It's like I'm openly rooting for Sheffler and rooting against anyone that might stop him.

But I thought the commentary from the crowd on when the park was. Outrageous. Cheering bad shots that went in the bunker, that's like, if I was ever with somebody, I would just walk away and be, I'm not standing near you. That's disgusting. When he rolled in that birdie putt on 16, I think it was. He was like screaming. It looked like he looked back in the crowd, like, chew on that. Like it was almost a shooter McGabbard.

All right, hour two coming up. Pierre LeBron will join us on Brady-Cuch going to the Florida Panthers. What else is in store throughout the league? Jay's back in action back home tonight. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN2. You've been listening to Overdrive, powered by Fandul. Fan duel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score.

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