OverDrive - OverDrive - June 23, 2025 - Hour 3

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jamie McLennan and Frank Corrado for Hour 3 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Analyst Carlo Colaiacovo joins to discuss the Maple Leafs' offseason viewpoints, Brad Marchand's ideal fit in Tor...onto and the team's stance without Mitch Marner. PGA Tour Caddie Scott Vail joins to discuss Keegan Bradley's win at the Travelers Championship, the perspective of caddying at the tournament and captaining at the Ryder Cup and Bryan gives his FanDuel Best Bets.

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Starting point is 00:01:00 Happy Pride from iHeartPride Canada Final Hour Overdrive continues powered by FanDuo bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score Brian Hayes Frankie Corrado Jamie Noodle's McClennan were up on TSN to up on YouTube live on TSN's YouTube channel Every hour of every show up on YouTube bunch of clips up there as well. There's gonna be a big week, man We got the the draft coming up NHL and NBA got the Jays looking to recover after they threw away two games to the White Sox they got pumped on Friday and then yesterday it just you know Jeff Hoffman starting to take a lot of heat a lot of people getting worried about Hoffman his stats are brutal. Blown save. Yeah man and his ERA like he's got an
Starting point is 00:01:41 ERA up around 5.6 you, like it's a struggle right now. And listen, good news on Scherzer, it sounds like Scherzer's gonna return likely this week, but they're gonna need some help on that bullpen, man, because if you're throwing games away against the Chicago White Sox. White Sox got two or three. Yeah, you can't have that. No one loses to the White Sox like that. Not at home they don't.
Starting point is 00:02:04 No. Not unless it's Colorado or something. So the Jays, I was getting cocky for them. Like going into the weekend on Friday, I'm like, this is a sweep. We were talking sweep. 100% sweep. Lock it up. Maybe throw away one game. And they dropped two or three. And listen, you know, the Yankees, they look vulnerable right now. The Rays have been great recently. Tampa's just a classic team that always does it right. I'm so sick of the state. Like the whole state bothers me. We don't talk about state tax with the Rays. You're right because they don't spend any money. Very good point. Although maybe that's what they've been doing this whole time. Maybe we just crack the kids. The reason they don't spend any
Starting point is 00:02:41 money is because of the state tax. They don't have to. They don't have to. Anyone wants to stick around will pay you stay tax no stadium no problem no stadium no problem for the race it is funny though that they they do build like I mean most of the players that leave are good players they don't stay in Tampa correct right they move on get the most out of their guys and then they move on yeah that's that is precisely precisely what happens. Something to chew on brought to you by Boston Pizza Canada's favorite sports bar enjoy $15 lunch at BP where you get an entree aside and a drink
Starting point is 00:03:16 and you'll get it all in twenty minutes or less. So fast lunch doesn't have to be fast food see for a $15 fast lunch at your local Boston pizza. We've been asking you know did the Kevin Durant trade overshadow game seven last night? And a large majority of people voting no. And a lot of people are saying, you know, if this was Katie five years ago, it would have for sure. But I would argue, I would say yes, it did until the game got going.
Starting point is 00:03:42 You know, and then obviously once the balls tipped off, once Halliburton gets hurt seven minutes into the game, you know, everything takes on a different viewpoint. But leading, like you get a guy like Kevin Durant, I don't care if he's not in his prime anymore, that is an all-time great, like legacy household name. Yeah. That gets traded day of game seven. Now I didn't see the pregame show but did they lead off the pregame show with the Kevin Durant news? Here's the breaking story Kevin Durant has been traded we'll get to the game seven in a minute like is that what they did? I don't believe they did because I think even you know ESPN was keenly aware like we got a tee up the game here first. Respect game seven of the
Starting point is 00:04:22 final. Yes like that's it like if this was in the first round second round if this was came three of the nba finals it might be different this is game seven of the finals remember i had the it's kevin durant remember last year game seven of the stanley cup final leonis all mark got traded like an hour before the game now lean is all marks not kevin durant but still not quite there was a uh... fairly significant trade made last year in hockey. Which surprises me because you know as Bobby Marks pointed out online because of the the the contract of Jalen Green this cannot be officially you know like rubber
Starting point is 00:04:59 stamp on the league until July 6th. So by no means did it have to happen yesterday. Yeah. Or at least you don't have to announce it. You would think Silver would step in and say, all right, done. Things are all good. Now the problem is the insiders are probably going to get it anyway. This is the leak. Yes. Leak. Someone's leaking it to shams and then it's exploding and there's no way of getting around it. But it's not going to be official for another two weeks. And yet it had to happen on the day. Like do it Saturday then.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Bad business man. It's bad business. Do it Saturday. But you know what, is it bad business or is it just like Durant got traded so a lot of people want to watch game seven all of a sudden. The big NBA day is what you're saying. Like everything kind of comes together. It was a celebration of the NBA and it culminated in game seven.
Starting point is 00:05:43 That's a valid point. And they did good. The ratings were good. i was in the u.s. and i'm very good guessing pretty good up here i mean listen it's a game seven you give me a game seven of but regardless of the teams the stars the storylines with a championship in the building that's always going to be a positive yap um... alright what was it twenty four years ago today the maple is selected carlo coli acavo twenty four years ago today the maple is selected carlo coli a couple
Starting point is 00:06:06 twenty four years ago today now i'm going to have to win was up there and six years ago today carlo coli a couple purchased a stanley cup ring from the same from the same lose for us that actually did happen six years ago today a lot of anniversary of a period from first up carlo coli a couple of anniversaries here he is from first up Carlo Kolyakovic happy anniversary times two thanks boys a lot to digest there before we move on to our news I was just seeing you guys talk about the rant in the NBA wasn't the most absurd news that broke yesterday was that the Oklahoma City team had already purchased parade buses before season 7.
Starting point is 00:06:48 Yes, that is, and Rick Carlisle's thought it was freaking out before the game. That is a great point, man. Do you think they were doing that in Indiana too? Do you have to be proactive in your bus preparation? Well, I I mean the Florida Panthers had their parade yesterday that was what five days after they won it? Yeah. I don't see what the hurry is but could you imagine if OKC lost? What would they do with all those buses and who would get fired for leaking that? Well that's a great question like who was you know someone was really nervous when that leaked because Rick Carlisle was freaking out the Pacers the media was jumping on it and it's true because
Starting point is 00:07:28 like they make they make championship hats and shirts and if the team doesn't win our understanding is they send it you know overseas you're not sending a bus overseas. You never think about bus procurement for the parade. Would that be wild? I don't know where the buses come from but there they are That would be crazy man. If there was an Oklahoma City Thunder Championship bus somewhere halfway around the world It is funny because yeah, they're right there Well, maybe they can use it for the RBC Canadian Open next year that all the buses they had last year
Starting point is 00:08:03 I like that. i like that idea that we need we need some like we need some chapter like forecasting of championship buses that's what i need a bright now in the congo or ethiopia summer there's somebody with an ebb and to know where their stanley cup champion hat yes i think that we are not going to work for a while so replica ringed after that i think that's an even better question. Were they making Euler replica rings before they knew the outcome of the Stanley Cup final?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Okay, can I at least put a bow on this story? I know when you guys were talking about replica rings, I was on the golf course and my phone was blowing up because you guys were talking about me owning a St. Louis Blues championship ring. So, obviously you guys know my ties to the Blues. My best friend Alex Petrazzol played on the team, won the cup, and when they were handing out the rings, they did a replica night for the St. Louis Blues.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And I asked Petra, I was like, hey, can you grab me one of those? I like collecting those replica rings. Like I have a Raptors one, I have a couple of Argo ones, I have a TFC one. And I have a Raptors one, I have a couple Argo ones, I have a TFC one and I just thought you know, blues, I was alumni, you know watching my best friend win a Stanley Cup, I'd want one of those too. So when Toronto played St. Louis in Toronto, I went to the game, I wore the alumni jacket, I handed out the jersey that night and then after the game, after the game, Petro presented
Starting point is 00:09:27 me the ring when I went to meet him. And so that's why I have one. It's funny, I wear it, man. Those things, like they look, I mean, if nobody told you that they weren't real, like you could fool some people as to like how close they look to being real. Like they're pretty awesome So yes, that's why I own a st. Louis Blues championship ring that picture is the most Carlo Kolyakovic picture of all time in a leaf alumni jacket with a blue
Starting point is 00:10:00 Probably a pair of like Sabres shoes that they gave out back in the day Flyers bag on the side that you used. I love it, man. All right. Well, that's good to know We got a hook up noodles, man. We got a hook up noodles Noodles is playing coy but he wants one of those rings man. I do not I've been listen That's two years in a row that the Panthers have won. That's right A lot of my friends. Yes, we're on that are in management and all of that type of stuff i'd i'd barely get invited to the cup parties but while i mean and i don't
Starting point is 00:10:33 i don't need a i played nine games for their organization backing up louis that played a hundred that game itself well i knew you got one for sure and we are seeing and louis Luongo owes you big time. Yeah. Sure, yeah. All right, so let me ask you this, because I think the obvious answer is Sam Bennett. If you're asking a Leaf fan, who would you like of the three UFAs down in Florida?
Starting point is 00:10:56 It's Bennett, second line center, he steps right in. But Bennett's going to be off the table. I present to you a three or four year deal for Brad Marchand at Decent Money or a five six year deal whatever it is at Decent Money for Aaron Ekblad. Who would you choose if you're running the Leafs? Brad Marchand all day every day. I mean if you're talking about like changing the DNA I don't care how old this guy is 37 years old gonna be 38 this guy changes your DNA and
Starting point is 00:11:28 The reason why I say that is because everyone gets caught up in like age when and rightfully so it's it's it's a It's a way to to compare guys careers based on their age But some guys age differently it just happens and I just think Brad Marchand is one of those guys that just is gonna age differently. And you saw what, how he can play on a team that is built the right way. And even on a team where he doesn't have to be the best player, I think he's still got a lot left
Starting point is 00:11:59 in the tank and I think there's more people in hockey that have fallen more in love with this guy because of everything he's done since day one I mean he owns the belt for the best troll jobs ever in the NHL right now I mean the stuff that he's posting on social thanking every team's GM's and every team's Social media for certain players that helped build the Florida Panthers. I mean, he's got a blizzard named after him. I mean, this guy's, this guy for me does it. And I think him in a market like this,
Starting point is 00:12:33 in a locker room like that, with that the Leafs have, I think can do wonders. So hypothetical Carlo, but let's say the Leafs can't get Marchand because he tries to stay in Florida and does stay in Florida and you can't get march and because he tries to stay in florida and and does stay in florida and you can get a glad and all the sudden the headline guys that you thought you could get you don't get
Starting point is 00:12:53 how much concern would there be on your end that the leaves are gonna see mariner walk out the door potentially to borrow his walk out the door and not have a a significant piece come in in free agency well they'd be very concerned. I mean, this was my hesitation of jumping on the old Marner's got to go train because look, I'm all for change. I think we've seen enough of this group over the last couple of years just continue to fall short. But I think there, if there was change,
Starting point is 00:13:21 it had to be last off season with the guys that are potentially walking out the door because you know And I know you know everyone argues about you know the Marner We watch play in the playoffs and and there's definitely an argument to be made there but he's still a hundred point guy and he helps you get to the playoffs every year and If you lose these two guys you strike out in free agency, that's been my concern the whole time. How do you improve this team losing potentially one or two of those guys for nothing when you've spent the last six years using every asset you have to improve
Starting point is 00:14:03 around these guys? Every first round pick, a couple other draft picks, you've thrown top prospects in certain traits to build around these guys. And then you lose in game seven to the Stanley Cup champions and you're gonna lose two key players for nothing. And I just don't know how you, and I know sometimes being different can help make you better. and I truly believe that,
Starting point is 00:14:26 but how are you gonna be different if you don't have anything 100% guaranteed in replacing these guys? I would have loved if they could have grabbed Mason Marchman, and I know there was speculation that they were in on him, but you didn't get him. How, if they're not getting the guys in free agency, how are they getting better in
Starting point is 00:14:45 the trade market when they don't have the draft capital? Yeah, that's where I was going to go, Carlo. In a perfect world, in a trade, if you can work it out, again, you're going to have to be creative because Hayes and Frankie were basically laying out. They don't have a lot of capital to work with in a trade. Who's the guy that you would circle in the late like if it's not set obviously sam bennett if he ends up staying in florida and if it's john to borrow says your third line center you know who's your
Starting point is 00:15:15 who's the guy that you covered out there in the league is that shen in st louis is it had to be in calgary you know is it it by by by c i don't think this would be the guy, but I see Colorado is getting a lot of people in on Charlie Coyle. Now Coyle is more of a three, I think, a good team, but who would you covet if you're a guy like Tree and you have to head the trade route? Yeah, I guess that just, it's easier to answer when you know who's available, but you mentioned
Starting point is 00:15:43 Coyle. I would love to see him try to target a right-handed shot centerman I mean when was the last time they tried to move Nylander there and clearly you know they see him more as a winger but that's something that could help this team is having a guy who plays the right shot as your center iceman but you know man Braden Shen would be awesome here, but they tried to do that last year. And I what are you giving up to get him?
Starting point is 00:16:12 I don't I wouldn't be parting with Easton Cowan right now. No, I mean. So it's it's a great question, noodles. I guess, you know, it's all I mean, Naz and Kadri, who wouldn't want to see him back here You know, I think it would maybe cost you less to bring him over because he's got more term and and Terry's higher cathet But he's still really productive. They're not just gonna give him away It's a it's a really good question
Starting point is 00:16:39 I mean pious suitors out there on the free agent market? Is that who you're gonna target when everybody else leaves? Again, we're talking about change with this team, but I've always said be careful what you wish for because noodles, you cover the senators, you watch a lot of the Atlantic division. The Atlantic division, the teams that have not been in it are just getting stronger and the teams that have been in these long runs. Okay. Boston, they're going through a rebuild right now. Tampa is going through a retool. Florida, who knows what they're going to be, but at some point it's going to come to an end because it just science just takes over and says, this is too
Starting point is 00:17:17 much mileage on the same group of guys. I mean, it happened with every other run that we saw recently with the Kings, the Blackhawks, the Penguins, so on and so forth. Ottawa just made the playoffs, Montreal just made the playoffs, you know, Detroit and Buffalo are hungry. Do the Leafs really want to take that much of a step back when you feel like they finally won the division and they lost the game seven in game seven to the champs? So how far of a step back and how much change do you really want to make with this group. Now some of it might not be in their hands because if Marner leaves on his own there's nothing you can do
Starting point is 00:17:50 about it but Howard, that's gonna be a challenging job for them to replace one or two of those guys when you know you've got a market that's thinning out and you've got a trademark that's thinning out and you've got a trade market that you don't really have the pieces that teams are looking for for key players. Yeah, and listen, I think it's very likely Marner's the only guy that really leaves. Where if Tavares resigns,
Starting point is 00:18:16 then it's literally Marner of impact players that is no longer, yeah. So is it possible to replace him one for one? Of course not. But is it possible to bring in two or three guys instead of paying him 13 or 14 million and spreading it through the lineup? Yes, that seems possible. And again you don't have to do it on July 1st. You don't even have to do it by opening night next year. Like I look at this, you know, you got to manage over the course of a three, five, seven year plan.
Starting point is 00:18:47 They don't have a first round pick for the next three years, which is very damaging. That's gonna cost them at the trade deadline next year. There's only so much you can get at the trade deadline if you don't have a first round pick. You don't wanna be trading picks four, five, six years down the road without having any idea of what you're gonna be dealing with. That's how you end up in a situation like they used to 30, 40 years ago. But, you know, I just, Marner's gonna go, he wants to leave.
Starting point is 00:19:12 I think they're prepared to make it, to allow him to leave. And if Tavares returns, again, you've got both goalies, six defensemen, the majority are forward still signed. It's not that different. Like I'm not expecting them to just fall off a cliff. I get what you're saying. Florida's good, Tampa's good, Ottawa... Let's say Marner leaves and they replace him with Player X, whoever that happens to be. Who's a better...
Starting point is 00:19:38 Okay, let's say Easton Cowan. Okay, who clearly is going to have some learning curves and all that kind of stuff. Who's a better team? How would you rank it? Leafs, Ottawa, Montreal? I would still take the Leafs. Okay. So then what's this big fear that Montreal is going to catch you or Ottawa is going to pass you? I guess the fear is under Craig Berube, this team won a lot of close hockey games last year and in those close hockey games last year. And in those close hockey games, you have a guy who scored a hundred points and your team leading. Right? So how do you make that up if your, if your focus is to have your team play comfortable in close games? That's, that's, that's, that's just
Starting point is 00:20:20 my concern. I understand the concern of the regular season. I'm all for change. It's just losing a guy like that for nothing is what concerns me. Yeah, well that ship has sailed. I mean he's gone and they've lost him for nothing. There's nothing they can do about that now. Brian, you make a good point, but I don't think you're trying to look down. You're trying to look up. Like I'm looking at right now. Well, they can't pay Florida with Mitch Marner. But what I'm saying is like, you're right, if they bring in Player X just to plug, but you still have a bottom six that is not good enough.
Starting point is 00:20:56 That's my point. So maybe you spread that money around. That's kind of what you're saying. Like, let's see what it all unfolds like. It just, I agree. Like I don't think they're severely weakened they'd look different absolutely but you're looking to get better you know are you gonna okay is Max Domi gonna go from 33 points to 47 back to 47 you know like that's the biggest thing you still have Domi
Starting point is 00:21:21 Lawton Yarncroke Homburg Camp like Camp, like those are, you know, I don't know. Is that enough to get you over the hump against the... Think about some of those names you just said. If you go Holmberg against Lundell or Camp against Lusatina, it's like, I think that's more where your concern lies. Are you ever going to beat those guys with it? Not that Ottawa or Montreal is going to catch you. Well, not again. Ottawa went 4-0 against the Leafs in the regular season last year. I know they beat them in the playoffs but I think they're closer. They're trying to get better. I think what you're trying to do is give your team an opportunity, yes, to make the playoffs but secondly, you're
Starting point is 00:22:03 trying to win a Stanley Cup. This is the window for Austin Matthews, William Nylander and that. This is, you know, we say this, you know, we go, hey, McDavid, you've been in the league 10 years, you haven't done like, Matthews is the same thing, Nylander, these guys, like this is their window. So you don't want to, for lack of better words, piss it away, going, hey, we're, you know, we're going to take a step back or two steps back you can you could look different but you still have to be a top tier team absolutely trying to build yeah and that's the that is the challenge for sure but the easiest the the
Starting point is 00:22:33 only way to spread it out the third fourth line is to not pay marner agree that that's just a great the truth that the big four thing what is why you have the players you have right now. Yeah great All right, Carl. Oh, we'll catch you tomorrow at 6 a.m. Thanks, buddy All right, boy. Stay cool in the seat. We will we will you too. You got it there's Carla Kolyakovic first up with Kirolnik and Kolyakovic every morning 6 a.m. To 10 a.m. Right here on TSN radio Scotty Vail coming up
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Starting point is 00:24:10 like he won the travelers but he did not he'll be back tomorrow but our main man Scott Vail I mean he's Richard today he's more of a winner today he's got to be ecstatic today I'm sure he's partying. Probably putting on a better party than we saw to the Thunder last night. Yes indeed. I think that's a lock for Keegan and Scottie and here he is now. Here's Scott Vail who was on the bag for Keegan all week. He has been for years. What's up Scottie? Hello boys. I told you a couple of weeks ago it was going to happen and here we are. Yes sir man. That's got to be grat gratifying how cool was that scene on 18 yesterday? It was just one of the most incredible days
Starting point is 00:24:49 of my life it was it was so special chasing you know chasing a win all day and it didn't look like we had a chance and then all of a sudden on 18 boom we got a puck from six feet to win the win the tournament it was so surreal it's still not hit me yet. It was just amazing. So when you see Tommy Fleetwood leave his ball right in front of Keegan's on 18, like as a caddy, that's got to just be the most incredible thing in the world because if he makes it, you got to read.
Starting point is 00:25:20 If he misses it, you got to read. Because I saw Keegan looked at him immediately and said, you want me to move my mark? Like he knew what was coming. What was your, what was your view of like the Tommy Fleetwood scene around the green on 18? Yeah, a lot of the times that doesn't work out the way it should, you know, the guy will put a different stroke
Starting point is 00:25:40 on it, they'll, you know, they might hit their pots a different way. And sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. And in Keegan's instance, he had actually said to me, stroke on it, they might hit their putts a different way. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. In Keegan's instance, he had actually said to me, I was so proud of my putt, if you look at the replay of Tommy's, it wiggled like right. I think he didn't play enough break as is,
Starting point is 00:25:58 but Keegan was like, I was proud of myself for just doing my thing, and I was like, don't pay attention to Tommy's pot. I know you saw it, but trust your instincts. So that can backfire too when that happens. And he was, I had a moment, 15 minutes with him last night, just one on one time before the chaos started. And he said, I was so proud of myself
Starting point is 00:26:24 for just ignoring Tommy's pots, his pot and just trusting his instincts. So It was pretty cool though. I knew he wasn't gonna mess it. I mean, he's just such a special player with it When the chips are on the table Yeah, that's that's the amazing thing is that like when Tommy misses it You know, I'm curious what you thought what would have made him more nervous like if Tommy makes that and Keegan's got to hit it to get into the playoff or Tommy misses it and he knows okay I can win this thing now like what would he have a different viewpoint you think if
Starting point is 00:26:57 Fleetwood hit that putt? I think I mean my thoughts are when you're in that position you're thinking Tommy's Gonna make the pot on the front fringe and he doesn't make it now. You're excited But you plan on Tommy making it. It's not it now. It's a match play situation and you know Keegan's the whole time he's dialed in he was laser focused. I wasn't near him, I was just watching his demeanor and I was like, this guy's going to make it. He said to me, walking off 17, you know, he's been the chaser all day. Then he said to me on 17, do you have a ball that has a birdie in it? And I said, I do. And I went to the bag and grabbed, you know, there's
Starting point is 00:27:42 a fresh leaf and it was a number one. I'm like, here's your birdie ball. And when he, when I did that and he said that to me, I was like, this guy's gonna make birdie. There's no doubt in my mind that he's gonna make birdie. And he had the most beautiful drive, the most beautiful nine iron. You know, at that point, you don't know what Tommy's gonna do,
Starting point is 00:28:02 but I knew Keegan was going to make birdie. There were times where I just pinched myself, and it's just so special to be riding shotgun with somebody as elite as Keegan. It's amazing. It's surreal. Keegan's got, we could call it the clutch mentality mentality and you just shared some of the insight where, hey give me a birdie ball. How do you keep it together?
Starting point is 00:28:31 How do you focus and not lose your you know what when things are so tense and so exciting? Part of being a good caddy I I think it's just being even keel. Like, you know, I've been around, you know, doing this for, you know, 17 years on the PGA tour. You've seen it all. I've been on, you know, the Tommy Fleetwood end, which stinks and the heartbreak. And you just never give up. That's why it's 72 holes.
Starting point is 00:28:59 I know it sounds cliche, you know, bang the puck off the glass and get it out of your zone, you know, keep it simple type stuff, you know, bang the puck off the glass and get it out of your zone, you know, keep it simple type stuff, you know, the hockey analogy, but he's just with him. He's just such a fighter. He will not stop until, you know, the 72nd hole. So, you know, as a caddy, you're just, just trying to keep your player even keeled. But with Keegan, especially when he's on Sunday and he's, you know, he's in the mix, you just kind of just get out of his way he knows what he needs to do. With Scott Vale caddy for Keegan Bradley and you mentioned that 18th or the 72nd
Starting point is 00:29:32 hole great drive nine iron makes the putt it looked as if Fleetwood had a nine iron and went to a wedge and there's been all this discussion online on Golf Channel was it him was it his caddy I don't know if you're aware of that or what was going on there but from your view viewpoint like you mentioned he stay out of his way would you did you hand him the nine or did you say do you want a nine a wedge what like how does that work in terms of such a massively important shot where you might be in between clubs what is the role of the caddy in a situation like that?
Starting point is 00:30:05 I mean that The role of the caddy is to you've got a bigger percentages You got to know, you know what your players feeling we had 139 yards to the pen He gets his pitching wedge on her and 44 the wind flicked on 17 on our approach shot like almost dead end and The wind flicked on 17 on our approach shot, like almost dead end. And so it was 18 was almost dead end. And I, you know, as a, as a caddy, you're getting the yardage and you start thinking, what's he, what's he going to say?
Starting point is 00:30:33 What's he going to hit? And, and I'm thinking, you know, pitching wedge, probably it's not enough. We were Wednesday practice round. He's like, Scott, this front bunker is dead. It's a downhill lie. You can't see it unless you're down in the bunker. And so you think about these things, you just want to give yourself a chance. So, you know, we discussed pitching wedge and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:30:57 it's just not enough Keegan. And you also have to take in the, you know, you have to take in like the adrenaline, you know, there's so many things to take in the adrenaline. There's so many things to take into account. It was a hard shot for Keegan. Not many players with adrenaline pumping can flight something and chip it. They'd rather hit it full. Tommy hit a full pitching ledge to the front left of the green.
Starting point is 00:31:24 You've got to get a feel for your player and you're just so happy when your players on the same page as you and Keegan knew it and he was just kind of like get out of the way Scott. I got this. That's some of the best you know when you hear that as a caddie you're like, oh I don't have to do much. Scotty, can you take us back to the 14th hole? It feels like it was a bit of a pivotal moment in the round where Keegan overcooks a 125-yard shot. Fleetwood's got a chance to make birdie. He misses, he makes par.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Keegan's gotta go sideways out of a trap, ends up making bogey. Can you take us through that whole process and maybe what you guys were thinking walking up to 15? Yeah, not much was said. You know, walking off, kicking so good at, you know, those yardages and it was a nice light sand wedge and he had struggled that on that 14th hole for whatever reason it is. He's been leaving it out right all week the first three days. Pin high right. And the pin was on the right. He's like, I'm going to be aggressive. He
Starting point is 00:32:29 told me that last night after the fact and just pulled it right at impact saying, I'm not going to miss this right. But there wasn't much chatter on 15. It was back to what club do we need to do? We didn't say anything, do anything. And, you know, at that point you're in like fourth or three back, but there's a lot of stuff that can happen on those holes. So it was just. Keep plodding along and see what can happen. Keep fighting, you know, Tommy hadn't won, you know, on the tour.
Starting point is 00:33:00 So there's pressure with that. And you just never know on those final four holes there. It's such a unique golf course, you know on the tour so there's pressure with that and you never know on those final four holes there it's such a unique golf course you know was scott bill uh... caddy for keegan bradley so immediately after he wins the rider cup is right in his face of what's this guy gonna do is a captain of the team and now i'd i think is yet the number seven in the world scottie i believe he is a reset now yes so i mean he is or he's seven. Yeah. So I mean, I don't he's going to probably play his way into it anyway.
Starting point is 00:33:29 But can you give us any insight here? Like what is I know Keegan would like to play. But if he if he plays and I think he's earned his way on to playing, I don't think he'd have to explain it to anyone. I don't know why you wouldn't want Keegan Bradley on your team the way he's been playing. He's a northeastern guy. It's in New York. But does he intend on playing. He's a Northeastern guy, it's in New York. Um,
Starting point is 00:33:50 but does he intend on playing and being captain and how complicated could this be? Yeah, I, I don't know. It's been such a whirlwind. I, you know, we haven't talked about it's been the elephant in the room all year and you know, he's like, I'm just focused on being a captain and, and being a golfer. It's, you know, he's playing with these two roles. And last night, it's the dynamic has shift now. I don't know what's going to happen. You know, we'll see how the next six weeks play out.
Starting point is 00:34:15 But I can tell you one thing, if there's 12 guys on the team and Keegan's down on the team, I think, you know, that's I mean, if the fine playing on the team, I want Keegan on the team. I want him playing in the moment at Bethpage. I don't know, I don't know what'll happen. I don't know if he knows what'll happen. It's a, it's an interesting dynamic, you know, and I think as, as players, the guys, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:41 that are gonna be on the team, I think they have such a respect for him and his ability to be in that moment and you need guys. Beth Page is going to be a different animal. New York, they're going to be loud, they're going to be raucous, they're going to boo the home team if they hit bad shots. That's the way they are. So it's going to take a special kind of player and Keegan's definitely that special kind of player. I don't know what will happen though. I think that's a good point that
Starting point is 00:35:07 you bring up about the location of it right? It's Bethpage, it's New York, it's Rowdy, they're raucous and Keegan he plays golf with passion and you can't say that about every player on the tour. Like some guys they just kind of go about their business robotic and there's nothing wrong with that but something about the Ryder Cup and the passion that brings out it's almost like like don't you feel like Keegan's kind of made for something like that? I do I mean I'm biased and you know I love the guy he's my boss but I mean he's made to be the captain as well he's made to be the captain he's made to be the player, he's made to be the player. I mean, you can never
Starting point is 00:35:45 doubt this guy. His whole life people have doubted him. He went to St. John's, it was the only place that offered him a scholarship. He was always the chip on the shoulder and doubted him. And even when he got named the captain last year, I was one of them. I was like, how much is this going to affect your golf and he's been better you know he's playing the best golf I've ever seen so I don't know what this guy he's see I know one thing you never doubt him so I would want him on the team you know if you're gonna put your best you know your best team out there and try to win. I mean I would pick them on the team but we'll see how you know the next six weeks goes and figure it out.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Who was in charge of the celebration last night? We didn't do much you know they're not always some nights they're celebrating but you know by the time he was done media he was done it nine and the other family there and and i had couple beers in a book quick like the and i dropped them off of his rental house and he was on his way home and i was uh... at the airport this morning to fire detroit so not much but we'll have a good dinner tomorrow night maybe sip some uh... red wine and uh... i'm gonna get after once i'm done with this phone call though that's a fact that we gotta get you out of here that i don't know how to go wine and uh... i'm gonna get after once i'm done with this phone call though yes
Starting point is 00:37:05 we gotta get you out of here on that note i love it calling your shot man going babe ruth alright scotty good luck tonight pal keep it on the rails as much as you can i'll keep it in between the rails attaboy congrats thanks scott thanks guys there he is scott bill uh... yeah it was a cool scene man. Like I, you know, I feel for Tommy Fleetwood, he's, the guys now has 42 top 10s on tour without a win.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Top 10 Tommy. Hey, it's a good living. That's what he is, top 10 Tommy. The good living. Oh, he's not a champion. Never won. And he had it. Like he's, he had it all weekend. He had the lead after 36 holes, I believe, certainly after 54 holes. You know, he threw it away early in the round yesterday and I thought this guy, he's missing pots, he's nervous, it's over, and then he gets it back and he had a two-shot lead again on the back nine and it just, it got away from him.
Starting point is 00:37:58 He's got the lead on 18 and he hits a great drive. Like that's the nervous shot. If you got the lead and you're like, I just gotta find the fairway here, please, and he does it and then leaves it short. And all you gotta do is you're thinking two putt at that point, horrible lag putt, misses the putt which you knew he was gonna miss.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You just knew it. You're like, there's no way he's making this putt. You missed it. You're jittery, you're nervous. You can't believe what you just did. Like don't forget, these guys are the best in the world. They have a putt like that. It's not something they're really accustomed to doing. But that moment, it's like, what? Like you're thinking about it the whole time you get there. Right. Yeah, of course, man. Yeah. And then, of course, Bradley just steps up and it's like, interesting you said he didn't, he didn't watch Fleetwood like he trusted his own read because if you look at it there's video out there that looks like Fleetwood's ball like hit something
Starting point is 00:38:49 like a ball mark or something like that and it kind of veered right and Keegan was I guess like I'm going inside left and I'm gonna trust it I'm not gonna overplay it because his went right and and he just nailed it man. You know what kind of stones that takes because if you miss it and you're like, I trust my own line, and then you miss it, every around the green guy is saying, well, you just saw what happened, right? How many times has that happened to you in a round where you see something happen,
Starting point is 00:39:15 you're like, ah, I don't believe it. Meanwhile, you should have believed it. Right. It would be crushing, man. Crushing. Crushing if you overcooked at rights in your like the guy just showed you that that's the wrong line anyway shout out to scott bill that might be a first we've had a guest come on and say
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Starting point is 00:41:11 I was gonna call them Los Angeles Ducks, like the Angels. I wonder if they'll ever do that, just follow the baseball team and say, we're going by LA now. Now, the LA Ducks. I like Anaheim. Yeah, you're good with Anaheim. Yeah, I like that.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Because it didn't work in baseball. They're like, we gotta get rid of Anaheim. doesn't work by why wouldn't it have worked in baseball what's the difference i don't just keep it as anaheim that's that i guess marketing that stadiums night like frank you've been out there on the house if you've been there and i like i like anaheim it's actually don't mind it at all like there's good restaurants is you know it doesn't need forty minutes to downtown l LA like it's not like crazy no no kidding man like Hamilton right like
Starting point is 00:41:49 Hamilton to Toronto it's like they just built a new practice facility there too because when I was playing we had to practice at the old Ducks practice rink and we're talking like wood and roof type of thing I think I got a nice one now yeah and I'm just gonna be an interesting team like again they move off Segrist They get Ryan Pelling and some picks back and it's you know, it's they didn't get a lot Segrist was a guy his name has been out there for a long time I think they feel like that might be addition by subtraction like, you know, I'm he makes five point seven five It may be freeing up some money. I talked about what are they doing or whatever,
Starting point is 00:42:25 they gonna go big fish hunting. But he just, he's 24 years old, he's got skill, but there's a lot of flash and dash there. I don't know if his game suits what, certainly what Q is selling there. Like Q is gonna be. That's the amazing thing. Like Joel Quinville's back in the league
Starting point is 00:42:41 and back behind the bench. And like Jonathan taves is back joel quinville's back uh... anna hymes a you know young team that really has not been competitive for for a long time like they were talking five or six years i think since they've really been a competitive team i think they're gonna be knocking on the door to a playoff spot yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:43:02 and they have a cold tending to die like we have that your guy does not have those tells you about it that's the guy member the sun was like no name guy no name goalie makes those eight hundred saves in one game back it is good and he's okay so they got the goalie there got a couple of their might have there might dark horse team to make the playoffs next year i'm gonna say that even just having quinnville there is like five points to eight points minimum. Same roster. If you have an interesting spot for Marner then.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah. Give Marner, you know, jumps on a moving train, feels like they're moving in the right direction. California, great place. They've got some young players there. I just, I don't know. I don't think they're a playoff team next year, but I think that they are they take steps again We're in June. Let's see what they do in free agency and trades and stuff like that I do believe that they are trying to head north instead of just kind of you know Accumulating young guys they've got to add and we kind of forget who they have like Leo Carlson is gonna be a good player Mason McTavish is an RFA. They're like he's a good player that you don't talk about but he's good he just plays out in Anaheim we don't we don't talk about right Troy
Starting point is 00:44:12 Terry Ryan Stromes there oh gee a cutter go to a trend yeah go chase like you know we we talked about it a lot because he didn't want to go to Philly but he had a really good year like did he not make the the rookie all-star team yes I believe yeah right he did. Yes, I believe he did. I believe he did. He's a good player. They got some good young blue liners, too.
Starting point is 00:44:31 They got pieces there to make it happen. Yeah, is it that Lacombe kid who was really good down the stretch last year? Yes, Jackson Lacombe. Yeah, Jackson Lacombe. They got the Russian, Minty Okoff or whatever, Yeah. And Hellsend, Schellwinger. Goodes and Trouba on that team. Well now they have a little bit of the New York connection. Right?
Starting point is 00:44:50 So what do Trouba and Kreider who it didn't go well for. Philly they make deals with. Yeah. It didn't go well for anyone in New York last year. But who's going to bounce back out of all these ranger players, the guys that went to Anaheim, the guys that stick around, like if it's a Banajad or Lafreniere or that Keandre Miller didn't have a great year, does he have a better year?
Starting point is 00:45:11 It feels like a lot of those guys, based on what happened, could be having a bounce back year. That's where I wonder about this labeling teams are blowing it up or retooling or rebuilding or everything's you know up for sale You know, you may not be able to find a ton of teams that fit that mold But there are a number of teams that might be looking for change for the sake of change, right? Which is where the Leafs come into play where you know, maybe it is the Rangers, you know, maybe it is You know check or some yeah exactly like is Like is it a team like New York?
Starting point is 00:45:47 Is it a team like New Jersey who felt like they kind of stumbled in and do they need to make a change for the sake of a change to kind of reload? And Sheldon Keefe is aware of a lot of these players. You know, is there something, a deal you can make with a team like Nashville had a horrible season. Yeah. You know, I don't think they're gonna blow it up or anything, but are they looking at it thinking,
Starting point is 00:46:07 we gotta make two or three changes for the sake of change because we don't like what we saw. Like maybe Ryan O'Reilly, who doesn't have trade protection and by all accounts they went to him and he'd rather not come up here. Maybe in the summer, Barry Trotz is like, sorry dude, we just, we gotta move you. And Alicia.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I think the only thing is, you need a center man coming back or else, who's playing center there? Well, I'm using him as an example. I'm just saying that maybe it gets to a point where you know There it's players that are good players on teams that are looking for a change of pace Yeah, the problem is who are the Leaf guys that represent that caliber? You know, it's not Max Domi, you know what I mean? It's not now a defenseman possibly That's where you mentioned a guy like Brandon Carlo
Starting point is 00:46:46 Yeah at a lower ticket because Boston's eating some of the money money Maybe the least eat it again and it's like you got him for a couple years at like two million dollars I read today, you know Buffalo's looking for a top four defenseman for JJ Perturka, you know like that Pertatuka, he's getting a lot of attention. I'd be circling Tuck. Like Alex Tuck. That's a captain. He's got one more year.
Starting point is 00:47:12 But I'm just saying, what's Buffalo doing? Are they trying to add? Are they trying to move pieces around? That's the fascinating case study for me. That's where all my eyes are on teams like that. Pittsburgh, Buffalo, what are they doing? Detroit is a prime example. I had a buddy just send me a note saying like JT Comfort, maybe he's in play out of Detroit. He's a nice player, cup winner, that type of stuff. It'd just be interesting to see what these managers
Starting point is 00:47:42 are willing to do and who's available and who's not. Columbus too, like think about it Columbus was pretty close to making the playoffs this year, it kind of fell off at the last second but I'm sure that they think they're right in the fight so how are they getting better or what do they do to get better? Yeah, that's a very good point. Yeah. Alright, well we'll see what comes of it man. Day one of this week, We'll see where we're at tomorrow. I wouldn't be shocked if there was more action between now and four PM tomorrow. You know, another trade assigning UFAs got to be signed within the
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