OverDrive - OverDrive - June 30, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys dive into Mitch Marner and the Golden Knights' trade saga, John Tavares and Matthew Knies signing an extension with the Maple Leafs, Aaron Ekblad remaining with the Panthers and Brad Marchand's stock in the league. They give their viewpoints on Evan Bouchard re-signing with the Oilers, Edmonton's outlook for contracts on the team, Marchand's role in Florida and notable trades across the NHL.

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You hate birthdays and apparently Dougie demanded we play this song it's such a corny birthday song too but happy birthday to noodles there he is the birthday boy himself thank you and thank you to everybody who reached out especially online and stuff Dougie there was it was not necessary for the overdrive account to put it out there and you know what rightfully so there was a lot of people that were writing back saying asinine just the word asinine as in isn't that my clip that's your thing adults with birthdays is asinine how old are you today noodles it's I'm almost mid 50 54 man oh man wow I like that man

I like that on the right side of 50, right? Closer to 50 than 60. That's good. That's a positive sign. It's a big number, though. It's a big number. It's a big number. Like, listen, I get it. Like I just, I remember turning 40 and I was actually with some buddies over the weekend

and my buddy was like, I remember when you were so rattled when you were turning 30. Because we had a party at my house in St. Albert years ago, I was still playing. And I was like, man, I'm turning 30. What is going on here? And now we're almost mid-50s, but it is what it is. You're trucking along and seeing what you can do. But listen, it's not like we have anything to talk about today. Like that's the crazy part.

By the way, we apologize about Friday We all wanted to work Doogie and our boss decided that day of rest was best. That is true That was Doogie's decision personally. Doogie and our boss said you guys look a little fatigued Take the day to yourselves. You're right. It was maybe not the best idea Yeah, but man can we catch up and make up for today because we have lots to get into well there's and i'm fully anticipating more news between now and seven o'clock so that's like all a wire yet that's the beauty of it like we just part of is coming on if you just turn

in and aaron eckblad sign an eight-year deal with florida eight-year extension at six point one million which means he took a discount on what he had been making for the last, I believe, six years, where he was making 7.5. But I have an appreciation for that because he's not... Listen, we always hear this through the grapevine or even players off the record, while the PA is not going to be happy, the PA is going to want you to go out there and... It's your life.

That's all he knows is Florida. They've won two cups in a row he wants to stay all of his buddies are staying is like five what's it gonna take i don't think this is a state tax thing with that blood this is a lifestyle choice where he doesn't want to leave and see those like we're happy to keep you but we just don't have the money to give to you

but we can't give you eight or nine million it's just not going to work for us he's setting up his life yes He's in a great situation. He loves living in Florida and he doesn't have to worry about thinking, oh later in life like where am I gonna spend my... like he is going to be living in Florida. He's a Florida man. He's a Florida man. It's a great place to live. They have a great team. They're probably gonna be great for the next four to five years. And it's like, why not just finish up? And we've talked about it a lot over the years, guys. If a guy's, and by the way, I don't ever fault a guy for saying, you know what? I want to try to cash in and maximize the

most dollars I can somewhere else. If somebody wants to do do that it's not like you're an idiot It's not like you're selfish it they always say it is a business But he said to himself I'm not really in a position where I need to like quote-unquote cash in I like it here I can make great money. I can play here the next six years eight years whatever it is And it's gonna be great for my life I totally respect the decision. But if he said I'm going to market and I wanna make nine or 10, I would've thought that was cool too.

Yeah, you can have it both ways. And there are players that are gonna do that tomorrow that are not going to accept, I'm sure, what is on the table with their respective team. Even if it's a team they like or a city they like, but they just know that there's more money out there because there is going to be money. What I have noticed over the last few days is a lot of teams are just keeping their guys

or trying their best to keep their own guys. God, they love their own guys. They love their own guys, which means there's not like the free agent list is not going to be nearly as deep, yet there's still a lot of teams out there that don't like their guys and want to spend, which means if you're Nick Ehlers, if you're Brock Besser, I think if you're Brad Marchand. Now maybe Marchand looks at this and says the same thing that Eklad said. He doesn't have nearly as much of an intimate relationship with Florida, clearly, but maybe he's like, this is where I want to

retire the rest of my life and I can get a four or five-year deal, they'll stretch it out, I can get the pot of gold that I'm looking for I can win and everything's good that might happen between now and tomorrow at noon I wouldn't be surprised but he also may say I want to get that bag and now I can really get that bag because if you get to free agency tomorrow and it's Marchand and Ealers and Besser and Marner I mean Marner's different but it sounds like that's Vegas and we'll get to that momentarily but if it's the three of them and and Ehlers and Besser and Marner. I mean, Marner's different, but it sounds like that's Vegas and we'll get to that momentarily.

But if it's the three of them and they're basically saying, show me the money, they're gonna get a lot of money. The three of those guys are gonna get paid. Think about the names you just said to promote tomorrow. Marchand, obviously a big name, Ehlers and Besser. But at least they played on Canadian teams

and the whole country knows who they are. Like, I get it. I understand that. And Marner's big. But Marner might be a sign in trade between now and midnight tonight. Man, there's just some weird rumors about that Marner situation where it's like, I don't know the reports. I don't dive too deep into them, but oh yeah, they might make this deal.

Then the next tweet is, oh, there's tampering. They want to screw with that. It kind of goes back and forth where it's like they want to trade for this guy. This guy might be coming to Toronto. Then the next one is they're going to try to screw these guys. And this has been going on for a long time. It's weird the contrasting tweets between the Marner Toronto Vegas connection. I've got to be honest. You can't tell me that tomorrow at noon will be the first time that Mitch Marner knows that Las Vegas would

be interested in him. Oh my god. Right? We all know that. But there is a layer of respect there is a layer You know what how do you define tampering? You know again that is the is it his friends brothers uncles or the agents friend, but you had a conversation or whatever If there is proof flat-out proof of tampering then yes, you have to look at it But I I think it's the league is small everybody talks to each other There's all sorts of you know Darren Ferris doesn't just represent Mitch Marnie represents a lot of high-profile players. There's conversations Vegas has players out there So, you know be interesting to see if it is they're looking at tampering then, you know The level of it or what was gone on. But ultimately, we'll see.

If there's a trade or sign and trade, then they're looking at. But I think a sign and trade is only eight years, isn't it? Unless it's just, you know what everybody asks me. What everybody asks me at the grocery store, or the golf courses, if he's like all hot and heavy for Vegas now, like wasn't there a deal in place for Vegas like last year something well so these are the reports again these are all just reports but the belief was that the Leafs were pushing for Shay

Theodore and Vegas wasn't interested in that naturally and if you're Vegas you're looking at it saying why would I give up Theodore for Marno when I can wait a year and get him as a free agent? Exactly. But this is where, you know, the possible, I don't see how you're going to find a smoking gun in tampering. Like unless Brad Chiliving is going mission impossible here and was tapping phones or the league was tapping phones or, you know, I don't know. I mean, maybe the league can ask for the phones of McCrimmon and everyone in Vegas.

They're not getting the agents. They're not getting the agents. They're not getting the players. The players are like, we're not doing that. So I don't know how you could ever figure this out. And again, I think Leaf fans, anyone pretending as if this hasn't happened everywhere else, it has. It's not just Mitch Marner. There's no way to control it anywhere around the league.

Everyone's calling around. You don't think Wink Wink, Nudge Nudge, the Leafs had an idea that John Tavares might have become a free agent seven years ago I think they probably had an idea so it happens all the time but I think what would what would bother the Leafs I guess and bother Leaf fans is the idea that last year it was in Marner's head I'm going to Vegas so then it was like all year was just I'm just waste I'm buying my time and I'm going to Vegas. So then it was like all year was just, I'm just waste, I'm buying my time and I'm getting to Vegas. Cause that takes on a different complexion. I think that's what bothered people in Long Island about Tavares. Not that he didn't work hard and

play hard. That's what they want to do. Like if, why, if he had interest saying, when my tenure's over in Toronto and it's going to be Vegas after that, what is so bad about that, Hayes? Well, there's, there's nothing wrong with that. Now, it does bring into question, you know, where was your head at all season? Like, how committed to your current team can you be if you've made up your mind you're leaving at the end of the year and you know where you're going? Which could never be proved. I understand that. It's not about proving now. Like, let's call it what it is. No one's going to prove that. Mitch Marner's not going on a stand

and, you know, saying, I swear to tell the truth. You know, that's not going to happen. But if that is the, I guess what I'm driving at is, again, the aftermath of Marner leaving. You know, is it possibly going to get to a point where his return is perceived the way Tavares was when he returned to the Islanders? Is that possible if this blows up, that it's like, oh, Marner's been down looking for houses and he was in Vegas So he was net the whole treat us like gods and all that kind of stuff was completely bogus They were never gonna do anything and then you get them what Lee fans are gonna do I can tell you is well

Why didn't you try to broker the deal last summer like if you're going to Vegas? Why not work something out? Why not wave and agree and go to Carolina? Yep, you're you really care about ronald anymore you made up your mind you're leaving some guy only as parents were looking for houses in vegas i was like i don't think that's true i don't think i's parents moved to the city that you play hockey in in the wild and i don't know on depends on the certain you know posse we call it everybody it's different than when we played guys you know it's it's different that nowadays the money is so big the parents are part of the package so that the you know the age and everybody is to move to the city that

you're playing in I mean as insane old world well it depends on what the parents do for a living I don't know I mean did they have a job here if they're retired anyway it's not I was just a weird comment or somebody said yeah I heard the pair like it's just a stupid is well then that's what's going to come here is and that's my point about something that can't be controlled by anybody in the least will have no reason to control it because martyrs gone so you have no reason to control the way the general public feels about them and

mitch may not care i don't know maybe doesn't care maybe sorry i think he doesn't brian doesn't care maybe so i would think he doesn't brian doesn't care possibly not possibly my question is he is from here any's you know likely to live here and be happy you know what it's like when you're mentally committed to just saying i'm done with that place you don't care what anybody thinks in your out the door and you want to start fresh some so let me let me

ask you guys let's project not ronald's not a, it's not a vindictive town. Canadians don't act that way generally. When he, let's say it's in Vegas, he signs in Vegas, he'll play here once a year, the rest of his career. So he's not gonna be here a lot. Let's say he's here next year, January 23rd. What do you think it's gonna be like in that building?

That's, honestly, that was the question I was coming with too, and I was asked that today I can't tell you the answer until we know the outcome So you're saying if he signs with Vegas, correct? This is either a trade sure regardless of whether there's a sign of trade or not okay, let's just say he's out of here and he's in Vegas and You know then stories start coming out Maybe we can't even go there because then it's projection and who knows what the hell is actually going on

I'm going to say this by judging of the last ten minutes of that game seven against the Florida Panthers where he was booed touching the puck and it was kind of like isolated where you could tell when he touched the puck this might sound like some amateur fan but I don't think it's going to be roses like oh great I I think fans just I don't know and I'm just going off of like Twitter where people are like oh Mitch did this and Mitch did that at the end of the day I don't know if the fan base is going to be capable of saying you gave us some great years you were one in the franchise best player I'm gonna give you a standing o I really don't know if it's that simple I don't know I don't think

it is I think it'll be a conflict crowd I think that's the best way you could describe yeah I work crowd again with Tavares and it's different I get it but with Tavares it was a hundred percent vitriol and nasty and like screw this guy like how dare you turn your back on this team which again was screw this guy because you screwed us yes exactly where if it's true that Marner last summer was like I'm out of here I'm going to Vegas I don't think Lee fans are gonna respond well to that I don't think they should be expected to respond well to that it's's his life. It's his career

But it is sports and you know people have different reactions I just I we all know Toronto and Toronto sports fans are not wired like New Yorkers and New York sports fans like New Yorkers are crazy about stuff like that and It just got to a point where like when Tavares went down there. I was one of the craziest things I've ever seen Yeah, like it was insane when he went down there, that was one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Yeah. Like it was insane when he went down there to play the Islanders for the first time. I think it's 50-50. Don't you think it would be 50-50, the reaction, like a lot of boos and then some people would be like, ah, let's move on, depending on how the team's doing too.

Well, that's true. The other thing too is if the team moves on and is chugging along, I think people are like, yeah, you gave us nine years, it didn't work out there happy you know things look differently I think some people will have that thought process haste the minute he leaves they hate him and that's it they want to kick him in the ass on the way out the door I think it's a 50-50 and what is what is the man exactly what is different is my understanding again not being from Long Island or being an islander islander fan is that a large majority if not

everyone wanted to ours to stay where this is different there's a large portion of the leaf and based that is waiting for mitch to leave like wants to change you know like just wants a different feel that it's been nine years some's gotta give dna this dna that if you want to leave go for it and and that's why do you think it'll be split it's that I think a lot of people will just say hey it was the best for both parties like that's kind of where I

stand on this like and there's no you just got to go like it's you're gonna go if he ends up in Vegas and it sounds like it he's picking a great spot his credit like that's a team that wants to win and it's a very good team and sounds like he's gonna get a long-term deal. And one of the biggest things about it was the timing of it. His deal was up at this particular moment. If it was the other way around and it was Morgan Reilly or it was William Nylander, it probably would have been them. But it just so happens that Mitch's deal's up and like you say, it wasn't the whole idea of you're the one that's got

to go. It's probably time to do something different. Yes. And he is the one that's up. It's not just about the player. It's about allocating money too. And maybe having two players at $6 million as opposed to one that makes 14 or wants 14. That's all it is.

It's very simple stuff. Well, and what you have now, because of the contracts that the Leafs have signed over the last few days, John Tavares on Friday, a four-year deal at $14.3 million with deferred money, which is a huge, like, team-winning contract, right? Now, John's going to be 35, right? Like, we'll see what he is in two or three years, or maybe it's appropriate. I think that's important to point out. I think right now it see what he is in two or three years, or maybe it's appropriate. I think that's important to point out.

I think right now it's a great deal, and I credit Tavares. We talked about it extensively last week. We were yelling and screaming about it. I think it's in his best interest to do exactly what he did. Get out in front of it, sign the deal, make it look like it's all about the leaves,

team friendly, spread the money out, and just kind of continue to be yourself and do your thing and fade into the background of significance and importance with the team, because a lot of it is based on how much money you make right a lot of the analysis of the team is who's making the most money and what are the expectations of that guy John is not going to be in a very different spot than what he was the last seven years but you know in two or three years maybe is a four point three million dollar player maybe he's a three

million dollar player I a three million dollar player i don't know the nice deal is more significant because it's it's a six-year deal seven point seven five millions good ticket the lot of money for guys play the league for two years he wanted to stay he didn't want the offer sheet stuff

he loves it here he loves being with Matthews. And again, I don't think like he could have played hardball here. He could have played a tougher hand of poker than he did from my perception. And I appreciate that greatly because I think it was long overdue. And I credit Brad tree living first and foremost for saying we want to be treated like the other the 31 other teams. There's no Toronto, you know, boost because we're the Leafs and it's so crazy here and all that kind of stuff and this is just two more examples and I know I'm droning on here two more examples of stuffing the players don't want to play here garbage in the locker which is where it deserves to be right because you're hearing that now with

Mark Wop players don't want to be here ran fans run and people out of town no john tovarez and matthew nice to work and i signed please i've died of the may believe but that's the reality there are some players that love it some players that don't but there's there's no this is too too crazy your fans are too crowd the pressures too much i can't be here i was completely bogus

i got a ton of respect for matthew nice we talked about it near the end of the season or the idea people were tossing out the ideas of the offer sheets Who the hell doesn't want to play in a great hockey city play with Austin Matthews and be the first-line left winger and It's not like he's making chump change. How long is a big number six years six at seven seven, right? Yes, seven seven five. Yeah, like six at seven, seven, right? Yeah, seven, seven, five. Yeah. Yeah. Like six at seven, seven, five. Last time I checked, you're set for life after that.

And then you could go with the king daddy topper after that one's over. Like life's going to be great for you. And he could have said, like, let's just get some offer sheet on some team in some area. I don't care less what it would have been and I'm just gonna move to take the cash how happy would you actually be and I love that just like you said Hayes wanted to be a Maple Leaf, he wanted to play with Austin Matthews and he wanted to get it done I got a ton of respect for both of those contracts as far as the Tavares contract I do like the idea they said look man I just want

to play here let's make something happen so it's great he's in the fold but I just have to ask this in the I hope this is the last time that I have to discuss the jaunt of art it's great he's in the fold but I want to know in a game five game four five six and seven how are you going to win a playoff series with him on your roster that's what I want to know like how is he going to be a main contributing positive factor well it's great you got him at a number you wanted but that's my next question how what I want to know. Like how is he going to be a main contributing positive factor? That's great you got him at a number you wanted but that's my next question. How are you going

to win with him on your team? Well I think there is a different mix a little bit and it depends on where he factors in. He's still going to be one of the main guys Jamie. It's not like he's going to be getting spot duty. Well that's I guess the million dollar question is if the team looks a little different next year because it's not gonna look amazingly different, but you are gonna have to allocate Mitch Marner's money to Upgrading or at least they got money that they're kind of gonna weaponize here, right? Like they got flexibility for the first time in a long time

And and the team is gonna look different or feel a little bit different without Mitch Marner there But it comes back to the comment that Hayes said at the start of the show. A lot of teams are keeping the players that they have and saying, you know what, maybe Florida was the outlier. Maybe Florida is just, hey, we don't run into Florida and we're a pretty damn good team. That's kind of what you're seeing the message throughout the league is everyone's dying to keep their own players. Because either the side is...

That is crazy. Honest to God. Yeah. You're seeing the message throughout the league is everyone's dying to keep their own players because either the side is a cost to god yet you're saying that what it sounds like it like when a pegs trying to keep dealers and night I don't know about Vancouver and Besser but we know you know Florida's trying to keep March and sounds like Demko sign an extension signing an extension there and but here's the thing about that question and you're not wrong though but I think it has to apply to the other guys as well it doesn't have to be you ask austin matthews first yeah but forget john to bars austin has a one anything but he hasn't i guess brian you can start with that question right there

austin matthews you're going to be our captain the man leading the charge the man making thirteen million dollars how care how are we going to win with you being our lead guy that's that's where it starts the packing order john cast to answer as well and Nylander and Morgan Riley and you know all these guys. Very fair. It doesn't start with John and I think again with the contract being what it is he's still an important piece and he's got to outperform the number. That's the equation that's necessary in a hard cap system. All of your players and the majority of them

have to outperform with their cap numbers. So he can't play like a 4.3 million dollar guy. He's got to play like a 7 million dollar guy. Then you got real value. But the 13.5 million dollar guys got to play like a 15 million dollar guy in the biggest games. So it starts with Austin. You know, I still I'm curious what what Tree Living is going to do here. Like there there does appear to be the connection to Brad Marchand and they have money they can they can throw out eight million a year maybe nine million that's a big price big price to pay a 37 year old I'm not doing that all that is just that is so that is so desperate to want that in need it's it's almost

pathetic to need that in your locker room so bad. All they've done over the years. Oh, we got to get Marlowe. We got to get Thornton. We got to get this guy. We got to get that guy. That intangible should already be in there with the money that's been allocated to the players in the past to 37 year old four years times eight or nine million. I think that would be insane, man. Well, even if I love Brad Marchand. I agree, but the one thing too is they don't have to build their team tomorrow. They've got till they've got lots of time to do this. So it might be a hold on and you wait 10 games, you wait 20 games to see if there is you can

keep flexibility to see if there's a team that thought they were good and then realized they weren't. And then you go, okay, we'll take your eight or nine million dollar player off of your hands and like you have, this is the one thing that these managers, there is going to be some overspending and some craziness that happens tomorrow. We obviously want that. We're going to be sitting there for seven hours. But you can also go, we got a really good team here and we might have some flexibility when a team decides to move away from player X, player Y.

Or maybe a team goes nuts tomorrow in free agency and goes, I got to dump a player. I need to dump a seven million dollar player overboard to make the numbers work by the start of the season. Then you put your hand up and go, we'll take that player. Yeah, I think that's important to point out. Like the having flexibility is a good thing. You don't just have to spend to the cap tomorrow. And the inconsistencies with the Marchand comment or conversation about his contract, it's conflicting because I'd love to see him here. I mean, like first and foremost, I think I, oh, you would say the same thing, noodles, everybody who would not want him in Toronto like the idea that player that Personality what he's represented what he just played like he's punted the Leafs five exactly and playoff series like the idea of Marner out

Marchand in is the ultimate like leaf fan distraction right like we're Marner For ten years I always felt very uncomfortable with the media always very you know felt just very uncomfortable like just expressing himself and talking I'm not taking shots I didn't take during his tenure said that forever I'm not talking about his on-ice play I'm just saying how he dealt with stuff how he talked how he spoke how he handled things Marchand will come in here, put his feet up, and just be like, let's go. I hope the Leafs allow him to, right?

They better know what they're getting. They better not put a muzzle on them or tell people you can't talk to them or whatever. Let him be himself, and I think that immediately would be the biggest change in terms of just the voice of Marchand from Marner. But we just pumped the Leafs' tires for making sure Tavares took an

appropriate deal, you know, making sure Nise took an appropriate deal, which Nise got paid, like I didn't think it was a massive team win, I just think it's a good deal, I don't think, you know, put it this way, six years ago Nise probably gets six years at ten million, and they're like just pay them, get it done, whatever, that was the attitude of the previous administration is changed here so how do you stay consistent with that and then get to march and say what's it gonna take

now and you know you're overpaying yeah but that's your right you can't go from i say don't even think about asking for that because we don't play that game anymore yes that was not our deal and then it's like brad what it just read nine million ten million fine would just give it to you when you know it's an overpayment that's how i don't think you can't do that and like that's not honestly that eight even at eight at thirty seven years old like i don't know that is the challenge that that i think you're going to have years no way i am

but that's the thing what if it's a big number at a smaller term i wouldn't be shot guys at the boston brewing said know what, maybe we screwed up by not offering that guy like this or that or whatever. And they circle back and say, we're going to make things right. I bet you that's on the table. I think it's on the table, but I don't think they screwed up. They bottomed out because their year stunk.

They traded Brad Marchand to Florida and got a first rounder for him because they won the cup. They got a second rounder. No, it was a conditional that turned in. It converted to a first when they went to the cup. But with that in mind, Noodles, you're right, but by all accounts the reporting's been out there.

He was basically begging them to meet in the middle. He wanted an extension. He's not begging anymore. He's going to be like, whatever I said I'd take two months ago up that by three million That's tough to justify if you're in boss saying is there they they were they bottomed out last year and they moved an asset And got a first rounder for him. I guarantee you their circle back with him. Yeah, the numbers changed, but it's still the same player It's still their captain that they traded away and he he could seamlessly slide right back into that organization, went and won a cup and they continued to retool on the fly.

You're going to have a healthy McAvoy, you're going to, you know, like to me, you'll have Swamen not battling through a contract, now he's hit the ground running. Like, they could absolutely get Brad Marshand back in the mix. Yes, I believe the number will be different that it was at the deadline but i i think they're going to be an end yet so i'm sure definitely is possible and you bring up an interesting point come back and continue to touch on marsh and the lease in his he the guy now

like you see the one with act blad resigning in florida you know you talk about a big personality a game changer in terms of style and all that kind of stuff. Who else is out there that's available that would represent that for tree living? And the idea that maybe it is a shorter term deal at a bigger dollar. Like if you have some money for the next two years, is that the play? We'll come back and discuss that. We've got a big series start tonight down at the dome. Jay's Yankees for four. Jay's take two or three down at Fenway. You got Max Scherzer back on the mound tonight. Carlos Rodon's been great for the Yankees.

You got Max Fried tomorrow for the Yankees. Four best pitchers on both sides. Both teams playing well. Jay's three games back. We'll set the scene on that a little bit later this afternoon. There's all these rumors in the NHL and the NBA. We get a lot cooking this afternoon.

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Ever since Duthie was sitting on the toilet playing that for the opening of Free Agent Frenzy or Trade Center, I hate this song. And then the Oilers were playing it and then the Panthers started playing it. God, I hate that yeah and the reason i'm is it was this your call again do you are you in there yeah just play regular music yeah okay we don't need like getting creative it was noodle's birthday we played the birthday song we're playing this now because evan bouchard is signed an extension with edmonton so do he's being very creative but very it is the hot just got an interior makeover new furniture and the whole nine Report the deal hazy. Yes four years, which is interesting a four-year extension at ten point five million per dude

How does anyone in their right mind? I get it whatever the cap is going up, but how does no anyone's in their right mind not say You want to give me eight of that now take it Your well, obviously Edmonton would have loved that but I'm sure Bouchard was saying if it's gonna be eight clearly It's got to be 13 or something like that I mean, that's just the math of it for a guy that is that is young You know, he's he's clearly a big part of their program i guess that this kind of feels like what again the lease kinda went through remember when matthew sign a

shorter term deal and that could have been eight but instead it was eleven point six and it would have been more money and they were in they were in it to win it up against the tight cap let's like that's back there but that's what edmonton's trying to do here like they're trying to stuff everything together and try to keep guys in capping and got a one year deal. They're trying to find a way to get what? $2 million for Corey Perry.

They may not be able to find that money. You know, they're gonna find a goalie. Maybe not two, but whatever. One, one, five, whatever it is. I mean, you gotta give them something. You gotta find a goalie. There's a lot going on out there. Got lots of time to do sorted it out but you know what Bouchard at 10 and 10.5 is

pretty standard wouldn't it be that's a pretty good deal for both sides like he's what is he top 10 good I know after we had the hut discussion people were like to cut the next couple games he made some donkey mistakes they didn't were like the hot sucks whoever had the idea the idea, the Hut, this guy sucks. He is a valuable part of their offense, their power play. Give it like, just puck distribution with McDavid and Dry-Sidle. He's a big part of their offense, man.

A massive part. And the cap's gonna be 113.5 in two years. Like, that's the thing, the cap's going up. 113.5 in two years. That's the thing, the cap's going up. The short-term deals are coming because, yes, as much as we all want eight-year deals, I'd be shocked if McDavid signed anything longer than four. I know, but Jamie, these guys, I give them credit, they got a lot of stones. You get injured, man.

Well they all have disability policies that I'm sure pay huge money if they end up blowing their knee out. Yeah but I don't think you're saying like injured to the point where you can't play ever again. It's injured to the point where your game falls off a cliff. Like that's... Your game can fall off a cliff like not everybody's guaranteed to just be awesome every single year. Yeah like McDavid's a different beast than Everett, clearly. Obviously, he is the exception where he is going to be McJesus regardless. But, and Bouchard, you know...

Bouchard's 24, isn't he? Like, how old is he? I'm just looking it up right now. We're not saying that that is a possibility of it falling off a cliff, but it's just... Yeah, that guy's good at playing. I guess what I'm just trying to say is there's no guarantees. Well, if he plays to at least 36, he just signed to at least 29 and he can sign an 8 year deal at 29.

I think that's what these guys are saying. There's so much money out for the top players, he's one of them. So unfortunately you're right, Edmonton would have signed him to 8 years in a heartbeat because he's part of their core. But he said I'll take four at a lower number and they're trying to fit him in because it's still the caps only 96 next year and then it's gonna go to 105 or whatever it is and then 113 like it'll be 125 in four years

by the time you get there yeah you gotta get there but you're right there was I hear you saying but now with this deal it sounds like they have what between like a million two million to play with I get it They have a full summer all that Bob Larson being traded. That's another four Okay, but every team in the league can play that game Like you still got to fill out a roster like you got a you got to figure out who else you're gonna You know who else you're gonna acquire and wait It's not that we didn't know this was coming like back by her

Bouchard was gonna get paid and dry settles deals kicking in You know this this was inevitable. This was going to happen whether it was a four-year deal a one-year deal or an eight-year deal He was going to get a lot of money. Yeah, but it's just you know There's a there are some GMs with a lot of flexibility in the league and there's some that are up against it and Edmonton's got to figure out what else they can do here. But I think it plays on both sides. You know, like you're in a window here and Bouchard's a big piece of it. You got to make adjustments. You got to be happy that you at least got it done.

Now you move on to 97 and then you move on to rounding your team out. Like I think there's going to be some changes around the edges there. They'll move some players around. And you know, you go right back at it. But I think- What do you think the length of McDavid's deal will be some changes around the edges there. They'll move some players around. And you know, you go right back at it. But I think... What do you think the length of McDavid's deal will be, Jamie? I told you, I think it's four years. I think he's got the same age in his Matthews, because it'll be a four-year extension in

my opinion, which would be five years because he's got a year left on his deal. So a five-year, like that's a long time in hockey. Like plus he's put in what, nine already? How many years has he been there? Yeah, he's been there 10 years. No, he's played 10 years in the league. That would take him to 15 years with the same team. It's a long time. Like I think, you know, we are focused, but that is going to, the league is already with this new CBA trying to shorten the length of right of max term anyways i think this is just that what you know is that of course but what i guess the

point the counter to that is that's the league saying we want shorter these are players saying we want shorter which is kind of interesting because but i don't know what's gonna happen with marnor we've heard conflicting reports as you want a four-year deal does he want an eight-year deal of the sign-in trade of the new year do I guess we'll find out, you know, relatively soon. But I guess it comes down to the mentality of players, you know, betting on yourself and because there is an element of security that comes with eight years,

full no move, I know where I am, I know where I'm going, sure I could have made a little bit more money, but I don't have to worry about it anymore and I'm just done. Like you look at Florida, you Bennett maybe Bennett's not to the same status but they're all like just give me eight years and so I know I can just stay and I'm done and I'm not coming up again and it takes you know a different athlete I think to be wired that way it's like I'm comfortable playing for count contracts and playing for the next one that's coming up. The only thing that's different though is like Ben it's 29 and never really made huge money so he'll take the eight years.

These guys are 25, 20, what's nice 24, 23? They're like yeah I'll take six, I'll take four, whatever because they know this isn't their last deal. True. That's it. True enough. That's why it makes it unique. You remember Look at the Ottawa like they sign what how many guys at eight years like it was Brady. It was Stoots. It was Sanderson

Montreal same thing. Yeah, we call field and Suzuki and those schools are gonna look amazing Dobson just signed for eight which is a that was a great I don't know if you get what you guys thought what a great acquisition for Montreal Like that was yeah He's a good player. He's just adds an element of talent and skill and a guy in his prime I like that from Montreal's end. It's like you're gonna you don't want a you don't want that guy your team We'll take him on our team right shot defenseman that can play in all situations Yeah, take him take him wanted to be in Montreal, right?

Was like craving that spotlight, wants to be there. You have him and like that Gouli's a hell of a player. Like he's and so is he. Got to stay healthy, like that's the big thing with him. But I mean. Well you think of that decor, yeah. They can put together for the next five or six years. Those are some good players, man.

Really good. Yeah, they got that Rheinbacher kid who blew his knee out or whatever last year but they took him for fifth overall a couple years ago Logan Mayhew kid yeah obviously they're gonna flip someone like at some point I would think because they got a lot of bodies now in the back end but it is a shrewd move by Montreal like smart play interesting to see now what is the Islanders mentality you know what are they doing there because that's that's that'll be a team to see now what is the islanders mentality. You know what are they doing there. Because that's that's that'll be a team to watch.

Now are we are we in all hell's breaking loose like did I actually call it this time remember I've been calling it for 10 years straight. Is really all hell's breaking loose. I don't think we've reached that level of insanity yet. You know like Dobson was that's a big big deal good player moving on and but you know again there's a lot of re signings you know a lot of like avoiding of offer sheets and stuff like that we'll see what comes of it tomorrow if if Marner just goes to Vegas that's not like crazy it's just kind of anticipated now.

Well, it'll still be heavy to talk about. Yeah, no, for sure. Marner signing and putting a different jersey on and showing up at some presser will be Newsy, Newsy. Well, and Brad Marshann as well. If he gets to the market, that's, you know, kind of legend of the game who could be available and what his contract looks like and where he wants to play I think it'll be very interesting

What about what if would it be more crazier if Marner went to like Anaheim for 14 million? yeah, so that would that would blow the doors off everything if all of a sudden things break down with Vegas and Then he goes screw it. I'm going somewhere else and it's Anaheim or Utah or something like that, yes, then that would be different. But I always anticipate craziness being trades. You know, like that's what I'm waiting for. Maybe the Islanders are that team. Like maybe Barzell, maybe Horvat, maybe other guys.

Maybe with Darsh there now and Loo out, they're like, we gotta reset. We just took Matthew Schaefer, they just had a lot of pics in this draft there's a very old and i take it down a little down the well then sorokan maybe becomes available well that's where everyone in edmonton's like i was there and people like also or could sky go out first of all

what are you trading for him right atop like top five goaltender in the league in my are close to it if it but he's one of them put it that way what is he make nine million he adds eight something or nine yeah it's a lot of it's a big ticket how you know i don't know one of those guys that haze and jonas attacked when you're gone that's not true we saw how that i don't believe so i don't believe that's

accurate jonas might have but not mean that. It was actually Jonas. It was Jonas. He's a top tier goaltender. And if he ends up looking for a change, it's just how do you afford him? And what do you trade for him? Like if he's a, let's call him a top 10 player, top 10 goalie in the league, okay? You're not trading the rights to Connor Brown and a seventh defenseman. You're going to get a king's ransom back for that. So it's dumb to just link him somewhere unless the islanders are actually going scorched earth. But he's a good goaltender.

He's been up and down under Patrick Wa. Jamie, what did you make of the other guy getting traded, John Gibson Gibson It feels like John Gibson's been rumored to be traded for so long I don't even remember John Gibson like playing and Playing elite where you're like somebody should trade for this guy. Well, like I don't remember those days He had a good statistical season last year Lucas Dostell was better than him and the day he's gonna solve Detroit's issues in net I think he's if he's healthy he's better than what they've had put it that way But I will preface my comments saying we could this will be one of your list Brian or one of our Jerry's

Who will play more games John Gibson or thatcher Demko? who will play more games John Gibson or thatcher Demko because it sounds like Demko's looking at an extension potentially in Vancouver and again that's a a guy when he's on his game is a top-tier goaltender I think Gibson is outside of that top 10 but Gibson I did that stat guys he left the net 19 times in 18 months yeah with injuries and polls and all of that but like that is that's crazy Detroit is just so desperate for goaltending times in eighteen months yeah with injuries injuries and poland all that but like that is

you know crazy detroit is just so desperate for goaltending what they do that he did yeah there there they look at who they've acquired over the last three or four years are just in the eiserman era uh... it's it's just been crazy and now gibson's the guy i mean i don't think people in the east are overly concerned about that i really don't i i don't think anyone's like all now detroit's a real player

because they are john gibson but he it with the weird thing is is i'd look i thought he was like thirty five he's thirty one it's just he's been around a long time and you know mileage all that type of stuff but you're right like i think he's a good goaltender but detroit needs to make some more moves in that uh... yeah for sure and for sure they do

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we've been asking online about brad marshan and uh... as this is an area where the we should try and sign in regardless of the price that is what is being asked it's very close to a split online there are some people saying no matter what the cost you put him in the full yeah i mean i i think within recluse and i can pay a fifteen million a year you know but i think you've been it's eight nine million that's a big that's a huge price of the laws but you say if tree calls you and

said hazy be what do you think about four years times eight brad marshan yes or no you doing it i'd be very i would be very uncomfortable yes or no the is very uncomfortable stuff yes yes fine yes answers yes i'm just gonna do it now it throws everything else i just said out the window about the bars and eyes but here's the difference to emotional you know it's not about a moment is not about a lot of you know what

it's too much i can't do it i think it's a big you go you go let's plug pontus home burke there or matthias michelli maybe Macchelli steps in I had to YouTube I had to look up his plays on I'm not embarrassed to say it I had to YouTube him the point being is I say yes you know why because Brad Marchand does move you know what the word is for the summer DNA and he's a difference maker well he moves the needle significantly I'm also I you got gotta understand i'm looking at this through

the eyes of the and you know we're in the entertainment business and we're at we're not a lot of content all moving deals in the past how they turn out a year after this i understand and that's that's the gamble that comes with it i by here you it's a big gamble man

because you know there's reports out of florida and throughout the league that he'd very well could just stay and what is you know if he's reports out of Florida and throughout the league that he very well could just stay and What is you know, if he ends up staying there for five million a year Then you know Florida's running it back and we keep saying this every all these teams try to keep their are trying to keep their players The one team where it makes sense is Florida like obviously they're trying to keep their team intact because look what they're doing to the rest of the league, but It's a huge price.

It would definitely make you feel uncomfortable. But he's still got a lot in the tank. He's still a great player. He brings such a different energy and voice to the team. And the idea of like Marner and what he represents out, Marchand and what he represents in is such a shock to the system of the team right and yes it's a raw rod dna intangible thing but he can still play i keep you just proved that now what he can do for four years

no one's got an answer on that are the wheels gonna fall off at the end of this year next year the following year i don't know eventually they will but injuries pile up absolutely not so big gamble in a big part of the concern he just you know obviously if you ask me this three or four months ago i'd have a different answer but look what this guy just did

like he was unbelievable for four five-year in the finals and the hundred percent for the players hundred percent he was big difference maker to the way that that team looked in reinvigorated he helped settle down their depth member matthew kichuck didn't have his hundred percent early on right Matthew kichuck built as the playoffs went on Jamie I was scary about that team he never got to a hundred percent and he was still a

difference maker and they still won next year they're gonna have Matthew kichuck at a hundred percent they're winning the Cup again next year. Okay, let's come back and get into that. How scary this is for the rest of the league. I dare you to get into that with me. Alright, I'll get into it with you. Let's do it. Chris Johnston coming up as well. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050N on the TSN app. You've been listening to Overdrive, powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Unmistakably Canadian.

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