OverDrive - OverDrive - June 30, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Insider Chris Johnston joins to discuss the Maple Leafs trading Mitch Marner to the Golden Knights, the return of the deal from Vegas, the Maple Leafs' plans moving forward and Brad Marchand's extension in Florida. They also dive into Marner's legacy with the Maple Leafs, Nicolas Roy's fit on the team in Toronto and the Panthers keeping their group together.

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I guess it's landed Darren Dreger tweeting out that Mitch M marner son in eight-year deal with the leaves and has been traded to vegas so we just had this conversation last hour about you know superstar sign a shorter term deals there's been a lot of rumors about mitch maybe wanting a three or four five-year deal there was a eight immediately eight but also there's you know been some noise over the weekend and reporting about

Tampering and you know to the Leafs maybe have Vegas in a position where they're gonna trigger some sort of Investigation to the Leafs even have the power to do that. I'm not sure was it poker in the end Did Marner just desperately want eight did Marner potentially want the Leafs to get something? I doubt that that was a part of this But nevertheless Mitch Marner is going to Vegas on an eight-year deal So that's basically where he wraps up his career But you have to believe it's a full no move full no trade now Vegas has been known to be ruthless I was just right they have been known to be ruthless in the house said you just said he stinks for three years He'll be yeah

You just said like we have to think you'll be there the rest of his career ask ask Jonathan Marsh or so and Mark Andre Fleury and all the guys now they were free agents when they were told to leave right I agree like you're right like Fleury I don't remember the exact details they obviously pushed him down Marsh or so just signed somewhere else but you're right you're right and I caught myself but we don't have the details yet on the trade like it sounds like Nicholas Wah is going to be a part of that right that he's going to be a piece that has been attached to the Leafs coming back this way. We also don't have... What's your take on the value coming back Hayes like to get... How much can you really get man?

You can't! It kind of feels like the Kyle Lowry sign and trade remember that it was like precious a Chua and like a second round or so fans that are saying oh you're getting screwed on the trade like don't the fact you're getting anything is something yeah I mean you're right unless unless Vegas had if it's a massive deal like I let's figure out what or not figure out let's find out what the number is going to be because if it's a huge number Vegas has to throw some people overboard and it's not just Nick Hague and who else did they trade yesterday was Hague yeah Hague went to Nashville and you're right but brought Colton Sissons back and guys like that and we don't know the number just to

clarify all that is being reported is that Marner has signed the eight-year deal with the Leafs with the sign and trade in mind so he's going to Vegas but the cap hits coming out it's got to be more than what he used to that he was playing for like he's not gonna pull an egg blad here to go to Vegas and sign for less than 10.9 million per I can't imagine 12 and a half you think I wouldn't be surprised if it's the ranting and deal like maybe it's a bit more right ranting and signed signed, basically signed and traded eight years for 12 million per to go to Dallas, right?

No state tax, very good team in the west. Right. How much more can it be than Rantinen? Maybe it's 12 and a half. If it's 13, I'm thinking that's an unbelievable deal for Marner. I think it's 12, guys. I think it's 12.

I think it's been reported that it's an 8 times 12 and that's what he's doing. Yeah. Yeah. So 8 by 12, 8 by 12, which is literally the Rantanen deal, the exact same one he got. Yeah. And I don't know, like that's the thing though. Again, it was, well, Mitch is going to get the most money ever and he could be the highest player in the league. He's getting 14. There's, there's rumors that it's going to be the most money ever and he could be the all-out where the league is getting fourteen there's there's rumors that it's going to be north of fourteen and he's the next one up and it was like well lesser you know what

it might have been if he went down on or if he went to chicago or one of those teams that were willing to in overspend to come into their situation well that's not all that's coming the old that the p r spin will be common soon it will which will be interesting to try to win a p r in vegas when he never cared about winning any p r in toronto

but i wouldn't be surprised at all if that came out it could have gotten what he are a good sense what what p r when this is back to your p r thing what p r is he winning in vaga well if it gets fun he could have got fourteen somewhere else, but he took 12 in Vegas because he really liked it there. They don't care. They don't care. They think that fan base in Vegas is going to be like, oh, this guy's a hero.

Maybe they don't. Maybe you're right because they're not conventional hockey market that probably doesn't know what the hell is going on half the time, so you're probably right. It probably doesn't matter and that's why we don't even need to discuss that he could leave somewhere else. They don't think he had to go as far as saying they don't know what the hell is going on now. But that's the point.

If you're saying it doesn't matter, then that speaks to how you feel about them as a hockey market. Well, you're right. I just don't know their hockey market to be like, they really won over the fan base with that contract and those comments. I don't know if that happens at Vegas. I'm just saying, remember Tavares when he came up here. Well, I could have got 13 in San Jose. It's like that was only benefiting Tavares.

Well, you know what I said when I was brought to my attention, I go, that's monkey business. I don't even care about that. They might've made that up. Right. Well, it doesn't matter. And Marner never got there, but I do wonder, like this would suggest, you know, he obviously was keenly aware that Vegas was in on him and he wanted to go to Vegas and the question I'm curious about is how long has he made up his mind that that was going to be the case?

Was it last summer? Was it at the trade deadline? You're really horny about that question. I'm very curious about it. Keep in mind, Brian, it might have been a higher number had they only had seven years. The Leafs-Factoringian on the eighth year is big to bring the AAV down. Yes, definitely. That is a part of it as well for sure. All right here's Chris Johnston our TSN hockey insider joining us on the

Maple Treadle hotline. So what is is take us through the timeline here Chris? Mitch signing an eight-year deal 12 million per to go to Vegas. What do you know of what's coming back to Toronto and how long has this been in the works? I don't know exactly what the trade package is. I mean it literally is a sign and trade and what's been done at this point is the sign party had to sign an eight-year contract with the Leafs, you know, technically before 1159 p.m. tonight to do the trade and so the trade call has yet to happen. I do believe Nicholas Wah will be part of that deal which is obviously his name has been attached since the weekend and you know what this does is, you know, I don't know

if there's more included in that, I mean, this is breaking in real time. You know, what this does is give Mitch Marner the chance to, you know, put this all behind him to get an eighth year, which is obviously his value. He gets the exact same contract that Mikko Rantman signed in Dallas after his trade there at the deadline. And, you know, for the Leafs, they're gonna get something back. Nothing, obviously, of Mitch Marner quality,arner quality but you know something is better than nothing.

Yeah go ahead Brian. Go ahead go ahead. CJ just as far as Marner and his tenure here in Toronto how do you think it'll be characterized? Hayes was bringing up the idea of him returning here like just this is the end what will you think the fan base and everybody in general will make of his time here in Toronto? Well, it's going to be hot for a little while, I would think. I mean, at this point, obviously, this is a big move. And this is someone who had the absolute right to free agency, of course, and he used it. But I think that it's going to leave certain you know certain there'll be some members of fan base

I'm sure that will you know remember this what will be You know thinking that that this should never have happened that type of thing and so, you know, we've seen in the past I would think that whenever Vegas plays its first game in Toronto with Mitch Marner Wearing gold that that's going to be you know, quite an occasion pretty unique site and and I would expect a lot of Visceral in the building, but you know over time these things these things tend to peter out a little bit You know I was covering the Leafs daily when Tavares went back to at the time with Nassau Coliseum For the first time after signing in Toronto, and you remember people throwing snakes and freaking out in the parking lot

I mean over the years he still gets booed there but it's not quite as passionate and there's probably a day where you know in retirement John Tavares will you know be able to do something with the Islanders organization. I think over time the same thing will happen here for Marner with the Leafs because you know whatever you think of the ending you know he obviously delivered a lot of memorable moments or times was part of a very hopeful period for the Leafs I know you know people will also remember the playoff disappointments that this team and Mitch was you know part of those but you know a lot of good things happen

here to bolt on the fifth in the organization's points list before leaving at age 28. So the tampering stuff with Vegas, where does this go from here? You know, I don't know. I think that it will probably subside too, but I can't say that definitively at this point. I guess we'll just have to see when the dots settles. I mean, this was always a unique case.

I mean, the Leafs and Gold Knights had talked trade on Marner more than once. They talked about it at the trade deadline as a potential three-way trade with Carolina that never came to pass. But obviously during the process of those conversations, it was known that Vegas wanted Mitch, that the Leafs would consider the trade, and that Mitch Marner would want to go to Vegas if it could ever happen. And so, you know, it's not as night and day or clear to say, you know, that something, you know, as serious as tampering necessarily happened.

I mean, when everybody at the table at least knew that, you know, all the things I just listed were true. As I said, I don't have all the information and I'm not sure where it will go from here. But the fact that it ends relatively amicably with getting the team to sign them to that eight-year deal, getting some kind of package back here, which we'll soon find out what the details of that are. All those things I do think suggest to me that there's, well, there might be some feelings and emotions involved for everyone here that that

I I don't know that it's going to rise to the level of anything else coming of those those allegations So we're chatting with chris johnson. It just broke that uh, mitch marner has Completed a sign and trade with the leafs in vegas eight years 12 million priorities going from toronto to vegas. We don't know what's coming back um There are indications coming in now that it sounds like Marshann and Florida are going to figure this out, CJ. So if that happens, let's presume that happens. Brad Marshann returns, Sam Bennett return, Aaron Echblad return to Florida. If you're Brad Tree Living, what do you do now? Like what is possible for him to do with what's the next plan?

Because, you know, six months ago, they probably wanted to keep Mitch Marner. Six minutes ago, they were hoping to get Brad Marchand. What does he do now to complete his DNA change? Well, we'll have to see. Is it on the free agent market or the trade market because you know free agency, we are still going to have a show tomorrow there will be free agency but we you know we're missing a headliner right? You know I would say probably the next best option in free agency might be someone like

Nikolai Ehrler's very different type of player than Brad Marshand but you know a proven top six winger you know that has been in the league a long time and I do think holds some appeal for Toronto, but the problem of course is that he holds appeal for other people too. And he's going to have options and so I certainly don't have enough to say what percentage chance the Leafs would have in him, but I would think that he'll at least be someone they're making a call to once he officially hits the market. And beyond that, I do know the Leafs front office has been gearing up for what could be a long summer that there might take some

time for them to get the roster to a level where they're comfortable with it. I know they're very excited about Mathias Maselli, who they traded for today. You know, not obviously a huge name necessarily at this point, but he did have a pretty big season a couple of years ago and he's still young in his career and has the ability I think to be a top six winger for this team. And so, you know, the truth is it might take some time.

I don't know that we're gonna get the answer tomorrow, but you know, the Leafs have got a fair bit of business done here in recent days, and they are alarmed with cap space to improve their team, even with Brad Marchand not available for them to bid on, and obviously with Marner leaving town. That's where I was going to go, Chris. Does that more think that they would sit on this cap space

and start to take a look at the trade market, and even maybe even into the season where you've got some teams that they might covet a player or two but maybe that team is not ready to move away from that player until you know we'll call it US Thanksgiving type of thing where you know I think there's I think there's teams that think that they're in it right now but they'll change their mind probably 20 games into the season. They know they're not in a jimmy they just want to wait until u.s. thanksgiving so they prove to their owner that they just

had to look at it that's i mean that it's fair fair enough but i i guess that my point is it do you feel like tree has the flexibility to wait to go into the season to maybe find that right player that rate fit for his organization for sure he does i mean it really comes down to that obviously the season to maybe find that right player that right fit for his organization? For sure he does. I mean, it really comes down to that obviously they have to be good enough to get to the playoffs. And I think knowing what we know of the roster, like it's not a crazy thought to think that they will be. And they might not even know who the player

is yet. I mean, that's that's the reality. They don't necessarily have to have the exact answer to this question. I realized it's not comfortable and it's probably a hard thing to message publicly to a fan base because you're losing an absolute bona fide All-Star, Superstar player, and Mitch Marner and you don't necessarily have the shiny toy to unveil and say here's his replacement. But we're moving into a different era in the NH, in the NHL. I mean, it's been a pretty crazy few days. I mean, I feel like I've been drick it from a fire hose here. And you know, we have the cap going up and I just think there's going to be more player movement than we've had in some of the recent past.

And I do believe that it's going to continue. You know, not saying it's happening tomorrow. Obviously tomorrow is really a day dedicated to signings. But you know, you get on the other side of the July 4th weekend the US teams are going to be looking for other ways to fill their needs and I do think there's a possibility Toronto's among them and more shakes out. So you know I do think that the Leafs is one of the benefits of having a GM like Brad Trilliving. He's a very experienced guy, pretty calm you know at the controls and he's not going

to force anything or make a bad decision know, at the controls and he's not going to force anything or make a bad decision just because of the emotion and everything swirling around right now. I think that he'll be patient and you know, the Leafs have seldom had cap space as we all know for a long, long time. They might actually be armed with cap space which can give them the chance to do some things that maybe they couldn't consider in the past. Yeah. Now with that, with trades means assets have to go, which is what can complicate things to an extent because, you know, to my knowledge,

they've got Easton Cowan, then there's a big gap in terms of like high-end prospects. They don't have first round picks for the next two years. That's where it gets complicated for me trying to project where the Leafs are going to go because, know the Florida guys like if they keep Bennett they've kept that blood that blood felt like it was four weeks ago it was 40 minutes ago we resigned in Florida and it sounds like Marchand is real close to a long-term deal in Florida as well so if they keep the three of them and you know again like Marner's gone like they picked up Michelli today from Utah. You don't have to do everything tomorrow. We know that.

But if it's Marner out, Michelli in, and there's not a ton of other big needle movers available via free agency, that's going to put pressure on Trela. He's got to do something. Something's got to change within this team. Yeah, but if you have that mentality, mentality Brian where it's I have to do something And if you think there's pressure to do it tomorrow, that's you just not what I'm saying. I'm not saying Okay, I'm saying by by game one Yes, you got to have a got to look different than the team that basically lost the Florida minus Mitch Marner

Doesn't it? Like isn't that wasn't that what he was saying that has to change? Isn't that what he was saying that has to change? Well, I'll say this. There's a lot of teams out there that would love to have the players at the top of their roster. Right. Like from an offensive standpoint. And I think that they don't necessarily have to go get another high end forward right now.

I think it would be preferable, but if it's not there, it's not there. Signing a bad contract doesn't work for anyone and so look it's it's going to give us lots to talk about. I think this is going to be the most interesting Leaf season in some time because it's true shakeup happening and you know look they're going to go after bottom six guys. I'm sure there'll be some signings but there might still be a bigger hole in the scoring aspect of the team that they have to address over a longer period of time. Well the Leafs just sent out an email they've signed Stephen Lorenz three years at 1.35 million per so Lorenz is coming back.

It's the same team minus Marner right now. Yeah I get it it's not going to be the exact same team I know that I get the things are going to change but you know tomorrow's is back good deal for the team but you know he's he's back nice was always going to be back lorenzo's back uh... here i'm quite sure is to see what else they end up doing here the leaves well they've got nothing but time to do it that that is the the luxury here

what is if if the word DNA was used and I know, oh, you hate it, what about this team will be different as far as the DNA? If you're one player out and so far one player has been. As of right now, Hayes just described it. It's the same team with Mikko Michelli and Marner Gahn. Mattias Michelli. Yes. Yes yes you're

right all your help but is that like i don't think that's a major overhaul we've got a lot of other side of the try to say that i don't know what it was but you still have the luxury of time here i still think they're maybe i'm in the minority of the i still think you you're adding a d i still think you're adding but who is that noodles? That's what I'm wondering like you with that plaid Resign like everyone was pointing at blood the obvious ones were while see if you get Bennett. Okay, he's gone

See if you get act blood. He's got well Marshawn's got to be the guy he's gone like here's tweeting out It's basically done. It's a six-year deal for Brad March and 43 which while they're spreading the years out, right CJ to get to make the money work Yeah, I mean 43 is wild though though that's that's a new one he'll hear playing past this he will be retired down there in Florida man literally yeah but probably still making money he'll be this he'll be a six million dollar skills coach it's not six though that makes it four isn't it six times so it is what yes thirty two million total over six years right see that's what is being reported

anyways five uh... yeah related to what we have is that they're still kind of around it you know working on that capped it but i think that that's a fair number of you look he could have got four years in eight million on the open market he get the

that same thirty two million total over six in Florida And he's gonna finish his career panther. It looks like I mean there talk about running it back I mean we think the least of the same the Panthers are keeping everybody. They're keeping the whole band together That's that's a hat trick is here tweeted there for for Bill Zito It's incredible work man like he said it on the ice with Duffy and noodles and everyone is like, yeah, we're gonna try. And everyone laughed at him and he found a way to make it work.

It's incredible work in Florida. Bob McKenzie coming out of left field here, tweeting that to his knowledge, like it sounds as if it's Nick Roy straight up for Mitch Marner. Like that's the trade, a one for one. There's nothing else, no picks. Now maybe there's more, we'll see. But that's what Bob is hearing.

So why did they toss in Nick Wah, just to say? Yeah, I'm curious, CJ. What does that mean? Like, you know, is that like technically they got someone, but Nick Wah's a, what is he, a third line player, fourth line player? But he's an upgrade, I'm you and what the beliefs have down here okay i like them i i don't know how you had to select yet good for checker it's you know good for about fifteen or the year mean very useful the fine for next season

uh... and i'll tell you like we haven't even got the tomorrow yet there's gonna be some crazy deal five tomorrow so getting players on reasonable contract is is valuable way you can do it. Obviously Vegas had to shed some salary in moving everything around on their roster. And also to get Mitch Barnard an eight-year deal, they had to give something up. The Leafs were the only team that could sign them to an eight-year deal.

So I think it's a combination of those factors and the fact the Leafs valued the player. And I know you don't like the DNAna change but i still think is going to be a dna change i mean while you add in what you know what if the there there's going to be i bet the leafer targeting hard-nosed players yeah well that's not our lineup the six four and i he plays hard like that's my point is he's an upgrade on that

yarn croak and guys like that that because you know what he how we place he's heavy and he four checks and he hits and he's got a little chip to him and yeah I could put the puck in the net only I mean the average he said 15 goals twice 14 13 very consistent that's third line fourth line but he's big and he's got some bite like I I think he's an upgrade on what you have in the bottom six right now if you're asking me okay well with Chris Johnston I mean there's been so much going on here you know the Tavares deal again that feels like an eternity ago but that was on Friday nays last night now you got Marner to Vegas on an eight

year deal sounds like Eklad Marshand Bennett they're all back in Florida it I mean I'm curious what else, like how many trades you expect to see that tomorrow CJ? Like there's still a lot of UFAs and there's some good players and there's depth players available but do you expect the league to switch to trade mode now because a lot of guys appear to be kind of staying where they're at? Honestly it might, I mean normally I'd say no to that but but I just did a free agent board today for the top seven names since I published that like three hours ago are off it now. I mean, we are literally at the point of it's like the Nikolai Yeltsin, Brock Besser sweetstakes

kind of thing, Vladislav Gavrikov. I mean, it's a pretty barren free agent market because so many players either You know sign and trade like Marner's staying where they're at And so maybe teams are already because they haven't even had a chance to bid on the free agents That are gonna you know kick in the trade mode. You know look at there's been a busy few days I don't expect that to change it, but it does look different than a normal year Man, so all hell is breaking loose. Yeah, I guess you're right noodles. Maybe you call that maybe you call Yeah, get lucky blind squirrel. Well, I've called it ten years in a row What's the biggest surprise for you CJ like of what we've seen the last three or four days

Is there anything that sticks out to you that maybe you weren't anticipating? You didn't think Florida would keep all three players participating and then they're going to be all three players in a lot about that but you're going to have all the uh... you know what and get the product free agent market would would pull them away now the animals are not provided by marlin with a good city it took a

complex intern and hello dash a drama added in over the weekend but you know kinda ended up i think roughly where i would have thought uh... with him you know it's it's been a pretty compelling time i'll leave everyone's still trying to win there's just not enough teams trying to be bad at night that's kinda shaken things up and made it a little you know more unusual season uh... for for the offseason activity

big-time right well uh... we will see where this takes us we've got uh... less than twenty four hours until free agency opens but i don't know how many players are gonna be out there now but if you are like if you're best sir in your e-mailers like you said earlier cj they must be thinking man come to papa but what do you know i want nine piece who wants a piece of nick eilers for

ten million a year yeah that's not, I mean. I don't know. I mean, CJ, is there a team out there that needs to get to the cap, that needs players? Like how many times have we talked? Well, Chicago's got to get some players. San Jose's got to get some players, man. Utah's going to be crazy.

Utah's dying to spend money. Well who was the one team the other day that needed to spend like 30 million to get to the floor? Well, San Jose has 50, but I don't know what their floor is. So who was the other day that he had to spend like 30 million to get to the floor? Well, Santa Jose has 50, but I don't know what their floor is. So who are they spending it on? That's what I'm saying. Like maybe they do just say, hey, forget it. We'll give you 9, 10 million. Like we'll just, we'll take you. I don't know. We'll see. All right, CJ. Good stuff.

I think there was about 10 significant signings in that one radio hit. I know. That's an all-timer. I'm sorry if I was distracted signings in that one radio hit. I know. That's an all-timer. I'm sorry if I was distracted. My phone, it just melted. I can imagine what you're going through right now because, yeah, Marner, we didn't even ask you about Evan Bouchard, which was again 20 minutes ago. That guy signed a four-year extension at 10.5 million.

That's old news. Old news. But like, what do you make of a shorter term deal for bush are dead mitten as opposed to either a true bridge a two or three year deal or uh... seven or eight year extension i mean what they would love to sign up for a but they they just didn't have the cap room and and

in a rising market like this for the caps going up guys like that i think there are going to be less likely to take the longer term deals and so they did what they could and that if i'm in edmonton today and i'm covering the oilers every day i'd say that now their window right it's it's the four years that they're guaranteed with bush are they have dry title signed and now they got to get to work on ninety seven at some point here and and you'll get away to get him him extended as well

ivan prover of resigning seven years, 8.5 million with Columbus, according to Pierre Lebrun. And I'm sure Chris Johnston, if we weren't wasting your time here, but so Provarov off the board, like I saw Frankie Corrado going through his tray is like free agent list. He's gonna he's gonna attack three hours ago, the guy was running through his board and now like 10 of the players are gone. Dude, he's not good. He can just mail it in and do something tonight. No, now he's got to really work, dude. Now he's going to be talking about guys on the

fourth line playing in Finland. Dude, that's shrapnel. Nobody wants an update on what they deserve or who's going to sign those. Right now the Quizmaster is calling Frankie Carrotto off the hook. Absolutely. And just saying, what are we doing here what i was in shirley as he said you know what that's how i can see jake buckle up because i guarantee a sports center's recall you in thirty seconds and say whenever

you're ready to come on and you insider trading so let you go and recalibrate will do it again tomorrow alright guys and you didn't even get to the biggest news of the day was that what contact home or walk away you're getting me didn't give a to the biggest news of the day. What's that? He needs to let Pontus Holmberg walk away. You're kidding me. Oh no. Didn't give him a qualifying offer. Pontus era likely over.

That guy was playing in the playoffs every night. Second line, second line left wing. What changed? Like Greg Borube, I'll bet you that's, Treloving saying, Borube you're not getting them anymore cause you kept playing them. Like Borube loved playing Pontus Holmberg.

I like the guy, I don't know. To be fair, you can still sign a guy out love plan pot is home i i i like the guy i don't know any very cool final guy out if you don't give a call for not free just a free agent now need to choose to come back to the front of the president of the don't need another small guy they'd they'd they need that there's your d in a arranging well yeah i know it's a piece god do you think i guess quickly will keep there's so much going on

yard crow camp like don't need to think how deep could go or tree living decides to move off Scott, do you think, I guess quickly we'll keep, there's so much going on. Yarncroak, Camp, like Domi, do you think, how deep could it go where Tree Living decides to move off players that are currently with the Leafs? I mean, look, I would be surprised if both Caps and Yarncroak are back, but you know, it also depends on other things, right? It depends on how much cap space they need, but both those players have a signing bonus due tomorrow,

which after the fact, I think it would be easier easier to move it just means they have left salary owing after those are paid We'll have to see I mean there's there's a lot of Those the waiting for some dust to settle here I mean even haven't fully processed the fact that they're out on March and so they're probably gonna have to regroup and figure out their Own plan. All right CJ this time. We'll really let you go. Thank you, buddy. See you, boys. Chris Johnston joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline. Drive the built-in Canada fuel-efficient,

fun to drive Toyota RAV4, gas or hybrid models available, visit mapletoyota.com. All right, to recap, Mitch Marner just signed and traded with the Leafs, eight years, 12 million, gets the exact same deal Miko Ranthan got with the Stars. And that's appropriate, that's the level he's at that's the comparison which again and what we got a lot of time to talk about it that comparison wasn't applied to the Leafs when he was up six years ago it was Austin Matthews

was his comparison but that's neither here nor there now the the Mitch Marner core for gotta get mine era appears to be over here in toronto so mitch marner's way to vegas for nicholas wall that's what they're getting the lease are gonna get nicholas walk uh... big body can play probably third or fourth line center wing uh... evan bouchard four years ten point five to stay in edmonton brad marsha getting a six-year deal at thirty two million total to stay in florida so bennett act lad mars million total to stay in Florida. So Bennett, Eklad, Marchand all stay in Florida. Eklad was an hour ago. Hazy, let's take a break and just give us a refresher when we come back over the last hour.

Okay. Just give us a full doogie, get a board, give us the whole... We gotta go through it too, like weigh in on what we like, all of that. Okay. There is one little nugget that I want to throw in there on Florida. Okay, a nugget on on florida will get into that who can possibly be florida with them running it back and

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No, Puce. Yeah, Souter, the center out in Vancouver. But the fact that he's in the top five is an indication of what's happened here. So to recalibrate what has happened, I'd say even in the last three or four days, because again, like John Tavares signs on Friday, and there were other deals over the course of the off weekend like Noah Dobson being traded that seemed though you're you right hey those seems like three years ago that that could you could if you told me those happened last year I'd be like yeah that sounds right yeah we already

know that we haven't even talked about the draft and how that all looked in transpired and I was down I felt bad for the Haggins. Was it the Haggins kid? Haggins. Yeah, to Boston. Thanks for drafting me. Guys, I just have to say, for anybody in the National Hockey League, and I know it's not our people doing it, we don't have the rights for it anymore, but if you are going to do

something outside the box, and I'm being dead serious when I say this, you've got to go to James Duthie and give him some money and say, you've got to tell us. Like, you've got to have that guy involved. Him and the people that he works with at TSN, whether it be the Quizmaster, Lanez, those are the guys that know how to do this.

You can't start wheeling around with secret rooms and video route you have no idea what you're doing duffy knows what he's doing like i high ike bras on the guy and we screw around that guy knows what the hell he's doing you like somebody that was horrendous man well like the league tried something which i will give them credit yeah they have been creative and tried different things in the past. And it was a decentralized draft and they wanted the connection between the player and the in the green room.

And by all accounts, the G is Gary was just doing right. Yeah, no, it wasn't the leaders. The GMs were pushing for it. They said to Jerry, we want this. And Jerry gave it to him and said, suck on that one. How do you like that now? That was. But here's the thing.

You're right about Duffy. I echo everything you said. That is an impossible job for those broadcasters that were involved to try to get something out of an 18 year old hockey player. It has, it just is never going to say anything. Yeah, it's really great. I'm so excited. Like that's all you're going to get. And then the GMs who are 2000 kilometers away, they're not the big personalities. There's no GM in the league that's a big, they're just, hey, we're great to have you. Welcome to the club, great to see you.

Exactly. Welcome to the club, young man. You know, it's like, oh God, like really? You were born to wear black and gold. It's just the lamest stuff. So it's the GM's and then it's not the players fault, they're kids. But you're not getting Anything creative out of either parties. It's an impossible job

You could you could put the greatest stand-up comic of all time With a mic in front of that 18 year old kid and it would die on the vine It would be a horrible horrible product and that's that's ultimately what it was Anyway, forget the draft who cares about the draft this hour mitch marner sign and trade with the vegas cool nights i think everyone was prepared for this but we had been you know talking about it for months where's he gonna go what's the best fit i will say this i think it's a great it's a great fit for marner

like vegas they're very good team uh... they have high expectations he sets he'll step in there i think i calls ahead of them clearly on that totem pole right like i call play the role of matthews effectively so i think i'll be comfortable with that yeah mark stone is a great leader but so i could rangelos plan anytime soon so he won't be around

but the adores their hurdle like there's other big dogs there he's players a lot of good players, a lot of veterans and what I'm driving at is he doesn't have to go there. Like if he's going to Chicago, it'd be like you're the man now. You're the guy. You got to drag us somewhere. He doesn't have to do that in Vegas. And he gets, I think an appropriate contract gets paid a fair amount of money. And he gets as far away from Toronto as you can basically get. I would bet that would be a massive thing because I played a long time in Carolina.

He's going to go to a grocery store and a gas station and not one word, nothing. Yeah, it'll be a totally different lifestyle for him. Yeah, I bet you after two or three months he'll say that to me is one of the biggest factors. I don't know. there's something about being a celebrity in Toronto where you're like, hey, you know what's going on? Don't tell me that no not everybody like gets a kick out of that like well He just his life will be different Oh a lot And that's part of the appeal to him probably Jamie, but there'll be pressure within the organization noodles Of course, I like he better pull his weight to help them win The business of hockey has not changed there and put it this way

Vegas is in winner-winner lose or winner bust mode as well And they have been since the minute they stepped into the league that league that team made the finals in their first year They won a Stanley Cup in their sixth year. They're trying to get back there and they felt they had a really good team last year that came up short. Now they didn't have their goods against Edmonton and Edmonton played very well but that team's really good and regardless if he's got eight times 12 or whatever the pressure is on him to perform. It's just a different type of the business of hockey is still the same. Everything that comes perform it's just a different type of the business of hockey still the same everything that comes with it outside of it is going to

be a lot different yes I think it's listen the lifestyle is big but I'm not sure the grass is going to be greener on the other side because of a couple of different things in Toronto like his experience as a Leaf, he was granted an easing in process, right? Like when the four of them arrived, the three of them arrived, Matthews, Nylander and Marner, they were, it was so celebrated that they were here, the team had been a disaster for a decade prior. It was hope. It was hope and they didn't have to do anything for three or four years. Nothing. Like they made the playoffs their first year and that's

all that had to happen. The second year, thanks for going back. Like once they got through the third or fourth year, then it started to change. The tune started to change. You're not going to get that in Vegas. He's aware of that, but you're not getting an easing in process in Vegas. You better hit the ground running also There was an element of protection from the other guys who came in with him, right? Matthews and Nylander then Tavares there were in the Leafs did a very good job of protecting him In Vegas like you're the big fit. He may be the highest paid player on the well He will be 12 million. It's the highest paid player immediately. Yes. So if you're again again I'm not talking the fan in Vegas, I'm talking the organization saying there's no, you know, Foley. Yeah I'm not going to talk to that guy. Mark Stone's won already.

You better do it. You got to do it. Mark Stone's won for me. Jack Eichel's won for me. What are you gonna do for me? Because Bill Foley, you just mentioned the owner, I just gave you more money than I've ever given anyone in my life. You better step in and play. You're not going on the ice with the best goal scorer in the world in every shift anymore. Eichel's a great player. He's one of the best two-way players in the league, but you're going to have to make some things happen out there. I'm curious to see how it's going to play out because he's been so good here for so

long, but he hasn't exactly been going out on the ice with a bunch of turkeys like well he's been going he's played with either matthews or tavaras basically his whole run here for the most part it'll probably be either eichel or hurdle which are two very good players very good the other thing too is keep in mind this is something that i know you guys may scoff at a little bit the west plays a lot different style than the East. The West is bigger and more physical. The East is skill and people are going to say, well, the Stanley Cup winners are physical,

100%. I'm just saying the Western Conference as a whole, that style is a lot different. That team, that Vegas team is they're big, they're physical, he's gonna add skill but his game might have to adapt a little bit to the way that Vegas likes to play. Bruce Cassidy is gonna say this is how we forecheck, this is what we do. It's a different style, it's a different thought process the way that they play hockey in Vegas compared to Toronto. It's not right or wrong, it's just different so he's going to have to

there's going to be an adjustment period to where he's going to want to make a play and they go out what we'd we do this okay well that's an interesting connection like their coach bruce cassidy he was the guy in boston in eighteen and in nineteen right when boston beat the leaves there there's also you know with

Toronto I think there the hope always was that he would stay here his whole career be a legacy guy number retired you know legends row all that kind of stuff and eventually win a cup here Vegas I don't think well they don't have the same loyalty built in like it, the clock starts immediately and you gotta pull your weight. And Mitch will be great during the regular season. That's not up for debate. You gotta grant him some time to find his way and all that kind of stuff. Like, he's still a human and he's going down there. But he's a great, great player.

And he'll fit in and he's a guy that's capable of, think playing with almost anybody but you're right it's a different system different style different expectation now your highest paid guy on the team they have an uber uber attraction to winning and dedication to that and you know he's he's going somewhere where he's just he's not familiar with it so dedication to it is a non-negotiable thing Yeah, either do it or we're think about the like, you know how they have those like Real time how things have changed like time lapses like that team like since their inception like first year all went to the finals and then it's like let's change this and then they won a cup and

They move fast man, like well, here a large man like they're getting at the biggest guy mitch marner was number one on the free agent frenzy list they got him you know that vegas just never stops you're right they just keep moving on and moving on and uh... you know if you're the leaves you get nicholas one return who's uh... third or fourth line player good player third line okay you think of plan the third line you can play you're the leaves you get nicholas one return who's uh... third or fourth line player good player

their line okay you think of plan the third line you can play center on the third line or a plan the way third line third line right winger if you ask me right that's where i got he can take draws and i think but he's like to use a good player he's like a good solid player big body and that's an effective player but he's not like he was not A needle mover kind of game changer. He's just a real solid player. Well right now on the Leafs depth chart

On the third line right wing, you know, take your pick. They had Nick Robertson. They have a yarn croak He's an upgrade over either one of those no Robertson's more of of a smaller, tries to goal score type of guy or shooter type of thing. Nicholas Wah knows how to play. He's an up and down heavy player who can score. He's got hands and stuff. So I think he's their third line right winger. Based on how the team is constructed right now.

And again, they're not even, let's give it two months, two and a half months, because I still think trees just getting going here. Yeah, and the question will be, again, what they're willing to give up to go for right now. Like if you're the Maple Leafs, if you're Brad Tree Living, because again, the cupboards are not overly stocked. Like you've got Easton Cowan,

you've got a couple of other prospects within your system, but you don't have a first round pick for the next two years. How are you acquiring these other guys who could be available? That's what I'm curious about because it's not David Camp, Callie Yarncrook in a fifth round pick for that second line player you want. You know, like that's not going to because you know again this hour Stephen Lorenz has signed a three-year deal. Debt player but when you look at the roster like they got Matthews, Nylander, Nyes, Tavares those four are playing. Max Domi I'm not sure

what they're gonna do with him I don't know I mean I think he I think he stays but my mini Jerry's on Max being here opening nights like 80% 85 it's not 100% but you got Domi you picked up this Mattias Macchelli today from Utah he's gonna play clearly and then you got Scott Lawton, Steven Lorenz, Bobby McMahon and possibly Nick Robertson if they decide to keep him like there's again if you're moving off Yarncro, if you're moving off David Camp, Brian Rees is going to play. Is he like an RFA or something? Yeah he's an RFA so they got to go back to the dance with him and figure out what you're gonna pay him. I mean those are things they're not gonna be concerned about tomorrow but and then you got your

sixth defenseman locked in, you got your two goalies locked in. Like the Leafs even without Marner, they're still a there's still a really good team Like there's still a good team, you know, and like you said noodles There's an opportunity here for Brad tree living to keep going So I keep going but also he doesn't have to do this tomorrow. He can Find out what Buffalo's doing find out what? Find out what Buffalo's doing find out what? Pittsburgh's gonna decide to do like I've said this many times and CJ just said it in the five You know the beginning of the five o'clock hour

There's a lot of teams that think that they're you know a player or two away Or they're selling to their own or all that type of stuff, but when the dust settles they might go Yeah, we are going to retool this year and then you start going to look at that organization and go geez that's a really nice player is he available that's right I think that then that is big now there'll be other teams that might be willing to do that too and that's where I my point of if you don't have enough to trade for those guys right you know if you don't have first round picks and you don't have high-end prospects how are you get most guys i don't know

uh... i'm more on this is we move forward again there's a lot going on all three of the free agents returning to florida brad marshan signing this hour six-year deal at thirty two million per erin act like eight years at six point one million per pro-vr all's back in columbus evan bouchard four years at ten point five million to obviously stay in Edmonton. There's a lot going on in the league here right now. So we'll continue to touch

on it between now and seven o'clock. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on the TSN out. The biggest songs in the world. You've heard them countless times. Now, learn the details of how they came to be. Join Ruby Carr for Encore, the stories behind the songs you love. New interviews and newly unearthed archive footage make for a fascinating weekly deep dive. Stream Encore, the stories behind the songs you love on iHeartRadio or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, so it's been a pretty crazy hour here in the NHL. The Florida Panthers have resigned all three of their big boys. Sam Bennett was last week, Aaron Ekblad was about an hour and a half ago, eight years, 6.1 million, and Brad Marchand has returned to Florida on a six-year deal, 32 million

per, or full. He's 37 years old. He's 37 years old. Well, it's interesting the viewpoint, because this is anyone else that gives them that deal. Crazy, stupid, how could you, that's so dumb, overpaid, but because it's Florida, it'll be perceived as shrewd and smart and you can't miss and of course they made the right play. And they deserve that reputation right now Yeah, like they they deserve that reputation, but how would the rest of the league respond if the Leafs gave this guy a six-year deal?

They'd be like are you guys insane exactly? Telling me man back at the elbow You don't have to apologize when you win they but but they've already won noodles Yeah, you're right. They if they win next year or any of the next six years, 100% right. But they better win in order for that to be true, because you're right. But they already got the best of Marchand and they got to ring with him. All right, more on this coming up into the next hour. How the league responds to Florida, what the Leafs do.

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