OverDrive - OverDrive - June 6, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys dive into the second round of the RBC Canadian Open and PGA Tour Golfer Matt Scobie joins to discuss his experience ...on the course, his impressive performance and Hayes' golf skills. They also give their opinions on Pete DeBoer's dismissal from the Stars, his next steps in the league, the Oilers looking to carry the momentum in Game 2 against the Panthers and the atmosphere around TPC Toronto.

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Starting point is 00:00:47 This Hour of Overdrive is powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. All right, here we go. Overdrive, off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app. Your home smart speaker up on TSN 2, up on live live from the RBC Canadian open there's the blimp happy be day hazy be day look at the balloons up there that's my probably the best picture I've ever taken in my life right there courtside with noodles and I thought it was egregious when they did that wasn't that they had a picture of you and it said Leafs and then it under me it said Panthers
Starting point is 00:01:25 Yes at one point that all that's when the Leafs were up to nothing and I was the Leafs at two nothing and then the Panthers Were like watch yourself because we're coming now JP just played that money song because there was supposed to be a 50 right? Right there the Indiana Pacers came back and won that ballgame last night nice 50. I don't want your money I carry it over will roll it over Indiana Pacers came back and won that ball game last night. Nice $50 bell. I don't want your money. I carry it over, we'll roll it over. I'm on Richard T. Lee this week to possibly win the RBC Canadian Open. It always makes me sick. At one point they were up by like 15.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yes. And I'm like, money. Give me the money. And then just like come on dude. You blow that game. That was insane. So the Pacers had the lead for point three Seconds just the last part point three seconds
Starting point is 00:02:10 Oklahoma City was leading the whole rest of the game outside of when they were tied to start the game and they you know We're trading baskets early Oklahoma City had a lead for like 46 minutes and 53 seconds and Indiana had it for point three. Maybe Indy's a Cinderella team man. You know what? Here's the reaction to them I was on with cause earlier I'm sure this is the way the rest of the world was looking at the Raptors in 2019 that who are these guys why are we paying attention to them okay they're pretty good sure they beat some good teams but yeah once they run into
Starting point is 00:02:42 Golden State you know the Cinderella story's up and I think the same thing applied here with the Pacers where it's but once they run into Golden State, you know, the Cinderella story is up. And I think the same thing applied here with the Pacers where it's like once you run into Oklahoma City, you're going into their building and honestly at the end of the game, Shea had a chance to turn the lights out. He missed like a 15, 16, 17 foot jump shot and Tyrese Halliburton didn't and Halliburton is a killer right now and the Pacers, all they do is storm back and miraculously win games. It's incredible. All I could think of last night was where's his old man?
Starting point is 00:03:11 Not allowed in the building. That's the best part. His son's hitting a legacy shot and getting one of the NBA finals and his dad's in a bar somewhere in Indianapolis because he's not even allowed down there. Isn't that crazy? It was crazy. It was an unbelievable night. And we'll discuss that throughout the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:03:27 We've obviously got game two of the cup final. We'll get to that throughout the afternoon. We're at the RBC Canadian Open. It is noticeably louder. Yes. And livelier here today. There is the bars. There was a couple 64 chance.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I think everyone's got to just tone it down. I think you were trying, you had turned around and you were waving to the crowd. Literally going like this and putting up a six and a four I think everyone's got to just tone it down. You had turned around and you were waving to the crowd. Literally going like this and putting up a six and a four and asking for people to chant. They started chanting. I think it's a good time to put it to bed and we move on to next year. I thought you looked like Gary Batman.
Starting point is 00:03:58 You know how Gary will wave on the crowd when the boos come on and stuff? That's what you did. You turned around and you were waving at the crowd. I didn't see a six-four but I can well I had to chew on it so we're at we're at the rink hole here 14 it's an unbelievable hole because everyone's throwing darts at this still no hole-in-ones but there's me a man of the people I was in there high-fiving just a man of the people they're singing happy birthday to you I was supposed to be. Bobby Weeks sniveled in there and took my spot.
Starting point is 00:04:27 But the reason is, is I was stuck on highway 10. I was so egregious. The traffic was outrageous. The traffic, like out here, they're not used to traffic, right? So people are trying to figure out traffic. And you and I were supposed to be in those seats for it to see a couple of groups come through and then I said I told Bob I'm like he's out you want in and Bobby jumped in there You talk about a man of the people that's a man and the people Bob Weeks not one cat call not one boo
Starting point is 00:04:53 I'm chewing on it people yelling at me 64. You're a fraud like yeah, like what did I do to anybody here? I'm just trying to have a good time Yeah, and we are on the verge of seeing Bedlam come through here because Nick Taylor's absolutely on fire. He is. Taylor is on fire right now. Pendous not far behind him. McKenzie Hughes, that threesome's gonna be rolling
Starting point is 00:05:13 through here in like the next 10 minutes. And then right after that is McElroy. And Roy McElroy I think might tee off, try to hit a home run and then fly to Oakmont because he's finished. He took a quad eight on the fifth hole today and dude what happened on that hole like he air mailed it he said he was in the rough and he set one into space he lost the ball they couldn't
Starting point is 00:05:34 find it like they're like that's my understanding was it was basically this thing's gone because I had when I was tracking him I was here but I wasn't at that part of the course yeah originally it came up on the app double bogey but all the sudden it's a quad and i'm like what happened over there and then he's continuing to chop it around and it's unsettling because mackerel a you know he's a big part of everything that is the canadian open right is that not one players bigger than the rest but
Starting point is 00:06:00 there's something amazing about roy mackerel right and uh... listen he came out here didn't play great yesterday today played even worse and he's going home. He's gone He'll be in Pennsylvania within the next five hours. Yeah Text me is a helicopter waiting for a canteen wine as we speak He on the bird may have taken his phone out after that quad on five and said fire up the jet may have taken his phone out after that quad on five and said fire up the jet to can't the best red you have and tell Pittsburgh PA I'm on route yeah because Oakmont is calling my name so it's not been great for McElroy but there has
Starting point is 00:06:34 been a lot of really really cool Canadian stories yeah really throughout the week we just had Mike Weir come through here and there's no one bigger than that Mike Weir is playing in his 32nd RBC Canadian Open. I mentioned Richard T. Lee who's been on fire, Nick Taylor's been on fire, Taylor Pendreth has been on fire. But you talk about a guy making his entrance into professional golf who was on fire yesterday, on fire today. He's in the clubhouse at 2 Under. This guy runs Coppenwood by the way. It's 2 Under in the clubhouse. Just be careful too. He'll be asked how many letters
Starting point is 00:07:06 He'll be comprised towards your email. Okay, Matt Scobie syrup Matt great See you have a new enemy on the set. Yeah, we're starting to know any of that but just be honest like it's I was at the club this morning because I popped in there and Everyone is buzzing. They're like what's scoby doing? What's he doing? How's he doing? Like the amount of support, which I'm sure you can pick up on, you're two under through two rounds. You're right there on the cut line. It feels like you're gonna get in,
Starting point is 00:07:31 but how do you feel like on this kind of stage? It must be incredible. It is incredible. Yeah, absolutely. This is pretty crazy being here. One of my favorite TV shows. Oh, there we go. So I'm excited to be here with the fellas.
Starting point is 00:07:43 Appreciate it. But yeah, just being out there and feeling the nerves and the pressure and you know trying to put the golf ball where you want it. How big are the nerves compared to like just just a money game where like how different are the nerves like and where do you kind of feel it is it like around the green like off the tee just how different is it on first he shot of the day legitimately my legs were stuck in mud like stuck in mud start today i couldn't move i couldn't get through the golf balls telling myself did you fan it right uh... yep
Starting point is 00:08:14 yep definitely fan it right so a little nervous start but it's um... it's just a different environment like i couldn't think on fourteen tee you know i was standing there and trying to come up with the yardage and what shot we wanted to hit and Couldn't come up with really anything Hit it on the green made a nice three moved on but yeah, no, it's a different different experience for sure So is that because of the crowd is it because you're playing with professionals? Is it because you're looking at the leaderboard? You're like my name is up there and it's above Rory McElroy's by a significant number. Like what can you channel one thing in
Starting point is 00:08:48 particular where you're like, this is what makes me feel like it's an out-of-body experience the most? Just being out there. First PGA Tour event, it's a place where I've wanted to get to for a long time. I feel like it's been, you know, six, seven, eight years coming since I turned pro and yeah, just you're in that environment, you're standing out there and you know, you have to execute the shots and play to a high level, but your brain starts going 100 miles an hour and it's a, it's a different environment for sure. What kind of support did you have out here? And family, friends, all of that.
Starting point is 00:09:19 And, and did you have to weed some of them out and say, all right, hey, like I'm trying to play here because you got an uncle or yell aunt or something in the stands yelling and screaming and all of that type of stuff. Definitely. Yeah, there were a few. There was a couple of people cheering on, some poor shots from other players in the group early on. We had to reign that in to start.
Starting point is 00:09:38 It was a little aggressive. But no, I had a really good crew. I used to work at Deer Creek as well, working at Coppenwood now. A lot of people from both those places came out. My mom's here as well. My dad was out earlier. So, ton of support. A lot of people cheering me on.
Starting point is 00:09:53 I got a bunch of Scooby Doo calls and a bunch of other nonsense in the rink there earlier. So, just really cool to be a part of. I mean, it's where I've wanted to get to, like I say, for a long time. And first experience, we're just watching the cut line quite a bit. How does that process go? I mean, do you just literally stay on the putting green on the range and wait or what?
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah, I hit some balls earlier, grab some food earlier as well, and then just wait to, you know, see the 70 and tie, see if it's two or three under. I was a little squirrely coming in, made a couple mistakes down the stretch. But we'll see. I mean, I made a bunch of birdies, was up there in the top 20 for a good chunk of the day, and we'll just see where the cut falls later. Matt Scobie with us, who again is two under in the clubhouse, threw two rounds, and you mentioned on 18 in particular, you put one in the water. Was that your second shot? Like, I wasn't here yet. So take us us through that approach because it's a par five and you're sitting there You I'm sure you're aware of kind of where the cut line is gonna be at that point
Starting point is 00:10:51 You're sitting at three under on the tee What made you say I'm going for this in two as opposed to playing it? Possibly a little bit safer did that run through your mind or did you have a plan before even got here? It said if I'm in this spot on this hole? This is the club I'm hitting and I'm gonna be aggressive So I cold topped one in round one on 18 laid up on purpose accidental layout So I that stayed on the plate chipped it up there made par or whatever So I said to myself bunch of four irons last night bunch of four irons this morning and they're feeling good It was a four iron. It was a good number. I really liked it. I thought I could get it over the water. It was about four grooves
Starting point is 00:11:28 too thin, so not quite the contact we needed. Came in pretty low and obviously ended up in the water and hopefully that's not the difference. But yeah, it just felt like I could pull the shot off and didn't have any of those negative thoughts kind of standing over it and tried to execute it and execution is obviously the difficulty sometimes. Has there been any, like you mentioned just being in it, it's a PGA event, it's a massive event but has there been anyone you've seen out there, any player in particular where you've kind of crossed paths or they're over on nine, you're on eight or something like
Starting point is 00:11:58 that and you're like, this guy is playing in the same tournament as me right now. Yeah there are a few. I ran into Max Holm on the putting green and sent actually an email to Rory's agent looking for a practice round. He's a little busy on Tuesday out at the West End actually. Figured I'd shoot him a note, why not? Yeah, no, it's just been a bit of a whirl to be honest. So just looking to make the most of it So last night you're you shoot 200 yesterday You have a great round and you play well in the afternoon and You're you're going to bed last night. You realize okay. I'm in I'm in the hunt like take us through
Starting point is 00:12:38 Your thought process last night and coming into round two Maybe compared to how you were feeling before you put the tee in the ground game for round one. Round two was miles better. Round one was you know bogey the first but really solid golf, bogey free afterwards and it kind of kind of settled in that you know maybe not as polished as a lot of the other guys out here and don't have the reps and the practice and what not but good scores can beat good players pretty much every day mr. 64 knows that himself but I hate that you got that off we had to bring it we had to bring we have put it to bed at the
Starting point is 00:13:14 top of the show the fans were chanting and I just said that's enough mr. back mr. sixty-four I shot 39 on the front at Coppin with this morning I I want to realize that from the gold teeth people do need to realize I will say I don't know if there's a You know a stigma out there something going on in the world, but hazy bees golf game is very high-level Thank you a lot of people Comment on it a little bit negatively and it's it's confusing But I want to ask why you're on the property guy in particular go around the property a lot, right? Yep, how many times do you see this guy on the driving range be honest? He drives up. Yeah, yeah, he drives from his car to the first
Starting point is 00:13:58 He grabs a coffee shakes the guy's hand He starts telling lies and making up his gambling game and then he plays golf Yeah, that's the best practice facility in Ontario and he doesn't even go near it still shoots good scores see I was gonna all the matters man all the matters you know all my guys none of us are ever up on the right we're coming on two wheels so we see I was gonna go the other way and say have you ever talked to him about shooting left? Because that's I put left I shoot right It's never gonna have to you the only reason he's a right-handed golfer is because we knew as a kid is that bill
Starting point is 00:14:33 Said there's no left-handed clubs in the garage. You got my dad. Yeah I think if you honestly he got him a set of left-handed clubs and he practiced and put a winter All you got to do is put a winter in you'll be you're a of left-handed clubs and he practiced and put a winter all you got to do is put a winter in you'll be a you're a better left-handed golfer than you are already did you not hear me I shot 39 I don't know on the front this morning watch him hit a driver left-handed you'll see I actually it's more athletic but it is doesn't mean more power has got a bigger back shot shot left and hockey yes we're not getting into this conversation we're bringing up old stuff the details at Coppenwood has there ever been a negative letter you know when someone gets a letter has he ever gotten a
Starting point is 00:15:16 letter for any behavioral problems at coppenwood never absolutely I mean I don't know just got started Matt just got started but allowed it is like yelling and screaming about somewhere will put music on from time to time and like we'll get out there and have fun but i don't i think we play an appropriate pace were all very cordial you know everyone's a good guy you know the guys that i'm out there with everyone's a good guy so i don't i don't anticipate any issues in the house early hope not not at all
Starting point is 00:15:44 what is your low score at Copa and you must play from the tips every single round. Yeah, prepping for this, I think it was 70 from the Platinum's back there. Okay. Pretty solid. I mean, as you know, like it plays, I'd say it plays longer than this place. It's firmer, it's faster. Greens are only eleven and a half here just because they're so slopey but copper ones are 12 13 they are so dialed in right now 100% so really good prep BS 70 not in the 60s yet from the bad guy this guy I've seen shoot from Planet Golds you shot I think 68 or 69 a couple years ago well that's what I was gonna ask how many sets of tees were out well that's the one thing that no one's talked about. You weren't here. Because if there's red and white. I will explain. The championship tees there was a
Starting point is 00:16:31 slight like black kind of tarp over it just the back of the tees. We went just ahead of the championship tees and that's where we teed it. By 28 yards? So what do you think? 6600? Like what kind of yardage do you think you play be serious look you're a professional golfer and you could you could Back me on this. I don't care if you play from the forward tees You still got to get the golf ball you still got a golf your ball so 64 is 64 I'm not disputing that but 64 from the whites is different than 60. Dude. It doesn't matter You can put sand wedges in your hands all day and people will not shoot Oh, you're not I'm not disputing that
Starting point is 00:17:07 Alright, so what's your plan here? Malik we asked you out of the gate like you're too under are you gonna wait it out until everyone's in the in the house? Or are you gonna head home like what's your plan probably head home live about an hour away? So hit the road here shortly. Yeah, probably check out some of the craziness. Yeah. Yeah, just see where things fall I mean, it's like I said, it's my first PJ tour event first Canadian open Awesome, that's great. Pretty cool experience hoping for many more I hoping to you know play a lot more as much as I enjoy helping you out at coffin would be in a Pro golfers a bit better of a gig. So just a lot more of that. But yeah tonight
Starting point is 00:17:41 we'll just head home already got some practice in grab a bite and Yeah, see where we end up. Well you were telling me a couple weeks ago that you qualified to hit like a 15-foot putt kind of a squirrely putt to even get into this tournament like that must have been the prep right like you talk about nerves you must have been nervous hanging over that putt and you made your way in and now the rest is history. That's it yeah handshaking in the qualifier handshaking on the first tee, but first tee today was fine and like you say, I mean, a bunch of support, my mom, my dad, a lot of friends came out and that steady things and it's just a little bit of belief too. Like you, you know, make some pars, string some birdies together
Starting point is 00:18:18 and you start to feel like you actually belong out here a little bit. As you should, man. As you should. should to order an unbelievable score through 36 holes we're pulling for you and it's it's straddling man I don't think we're gonna find out for a few hours but we're going to see banking on that you wonder man we can't wait for it great seeing Matt thanks for making good luck to you thank you that's all right overdrive continues we're live at the rink hole RBC Canadian open up on TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. All right, Overdrive continues powered by FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. James Duthie around the table at 5 o'clock. We'll catch up with JD ahead of game 2 of the cup final tonight. Some big news in the NHL. Peter DeBoer fired by the Dallas Stars today.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I am absolutely shocked by that. I gotta be honest and I thought we mentioned yesterday that the ownership gave him a vote of confidence or something did we not read that on a tweeter there was I believe a quote floating around about how much he's won how well he's done I mean clearly something came out of the aftermath I think of the Otter stuff there's been some reports that maybe the exit meetings and some of the players didn't love some of the stuff i don't know how much of that is true or not it's a bad luck gm the owner someone fall in the sword said he's got to go luck
Starting point is 00:19:34 i think if you've been around a game a lot you realize that once that goaltender who is their franchise goaltender any makes eight million dollars a year he yanked him out of the net and said you're not going back in there i thought that was the end of it for pete because it didn't it didn't took they didn't win the game it would be a god ugly after that yeah but do me a favor jim nil or ownership or whoever the same thing happened with dwayne casey in toronto
Starting point is 00:19:58 don't let the guy go out there and do media and then you fire map to you know you're gonna fire on so fire him. That's garbage. And there's no vacancies left either. Like there's all the coaching jobs have been filled. Here's the thing though. So what's he going to do? As far as I know, I don't believe there's any openings left. But it doesn't, this smells of exactly like you said.
Starting point is 00:20:17 They're fine with it, upper management, but then they have exit meetings and somebody's feelings were hurt outside of Autinger. Another guy didn't like how Pete yelled at him and did this and that. To me it's a bad look because does it show that the inmates are running the asylum? And I get it, listen the athletes are the ones and you know they got the guaranteed contracts. They do but at the end of the day who is better than Pete DeBoer to go in there and coach your team next year and get to the next level? How about you look at your players? Wyatt Johnson was minus 18 in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Robertson just started playing near the end of the series and the goaltender I didn't think was very good. Goaltender wasn't very good in that series. So what the hell did Pete DeBoer have to do about that? Jamie Ben, Tyler Say, like go down the list of guys and yeah, Hance got hurt, but I mean, you know, Hayskinen wasn't a dominant force. But it's like every organization when this happens, they say to themselves, we have to get a piece of flesh here for something. Yeah, you do. Do you think the Dallas Stars fan base will be frothing at them all summer saying I can't
Starting point is 00:21:16 believe no one got canned for that? I don't think they would have. You know, you know what always gets said to me when it comes to like PR and stuff, they need a body on the tarmac. That's the right there you know Toronto Maple Leafs Brendan Shanahan there's your body yeah but you're right who's gonna replace them who because I will torch their next hiring if it's some whatever lab he's out there you know guys like that but you know what it just it's different like it what they might be looking is a different voice and you know what Jim Nill framed it the right way he said
Starting point is 00:21:49 they need a different voice and I get that every coach has an expiration date so obviously they felt that Pete hit the expiration date but he's a hell of a coach and if you look at the most winning in the last three years as far as games played winning and all that so Dallas starts well listen the boards are really really good coach he's he's coach some really good teams yeah right san jose was good was there vegas was good this dallas team is really good
Starting point is 00:22:16 he'll get another job because he's he's well-liked he's great with the media i know where you're going with this and he wins where do you think i'm going with this regular season wins i mean that's the question about where it goes next right right in in terms of like how how he handles it out dallas handles it you mentioned you know the market i don't know dallas well enough but the cowboys are in many camps in like things are gonna change pretty quickly
Starting point is 00:22:41 down there so i don't i don't know if this really is about the market and people freaking out as much as it was. They probably didn't love the way he handled the Autinger stuff. And the way he spoke after the game, I don't think was great. No, I didn't know that.
Starting point is 00:22:54 He singled him out. He goes, well, he's lost on them as if the stars hadn't. Right. Like, you know, you pinpoint Autinger and it's like, well, he, he, he, as opposed to us, us, us. Right. You know what was gonna happen, but don't let him to Pete I heard he's been fired before he can handle getting fired
Starting point is 00:23:09 Do not let him go out there and speak to the media and address the team and then fire him that I agree with if you're If you're gonna come up with your your decision Which you're entitled to like Pete's a big boy and DeBoro get another job, and he's a co He's a lifer in the league. He's been in the league for a long long time He's a co he's a lifer in the league he's been in the league for a long long time he's a great coach but I agree with that like the idea of slow playing it waiting until all these other jobs are taken as well so now the Boers out there la violets out there yeah and now you get into the regular season and does someone have a slow start and I could see he jumping in somewhere in November December got a year left on his deal the other thing too too is I don't think this was a knee-jerk reaction.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Like this is now, when you look at it, it's they've seen something or didn't like something. I don't know, I don't think this is one thing that did it. Jamie, I guarantee you what happened was some of the young guys that didn't play well got pissy after with their exit meetings and probably said it's either him or me if he's still here i don't want to play here and when you got a goaltender locked into a contract like that i don't know what went on behind the scenes but that's when they probably had to make a decision everybody said it after the altercation happened the goaltender is going to outlast pete de boron dallas and that's exactly what i want and so i don't know
Starting point is 00:24:21 if the goaltender said if he's here come training camp i'm not going to be playing here so what do you want to don't know if the goaltender said, if he's here come training camp, I'm not gonna be playing here. So what do you wanna do? And that forces the organization to make a decision. I would not shock me if that's went down. It wouldn't be surprising at all if that were to happen. Now, again, they had a bad stretch in the final 10 games of the regular season.
Starting point is 00:24:39 They were down two nothing with 10 minutes to go in game seven. Like there is a chance ownership management had it drafted at that point. It's like, Oh, they survived. Right. You know, and then they survived and then it just got to a point where Edmonton dismantled them in the conference final. Right. Yet, like you said, there were a lot of players who didn't play well enough. Like hints got hurt and missed the game. Um, Robert, I got going. Not what wasn't hints. It was the high skin and he barely played. No, he didn't. It wasn't hints, it was Heisken. Heisken had barely played.
Starting point is 00:25:05 No, I don't think he played very well when he came back. No, and he was injured, clearly. I think it's more on the players than Pete DeBoer. It's 100% on the players. DeBoer's not out there giving up breakaways. He's not out there having missed assignments. It was the team, but I think what they're saying, and I agree with you, Brian, there's probably pockets of this season that they didn't like and they saw something and go this team is that up to this level
Starting point is 00:25:31 We're not gonna get past this level. We need something something has to change instead of changing 20 players It's the coach. Yeah, that's really what it is and it sucks. We love Pete the boar He is gonna get another job. I would be shocked if he wasn't employed by Christmas because you're right if everything's filled right now I think he'll be it's everything's filled. Everything's filled up now right now. I mean look at Pittsburgh hired With a muse muse. Yeah, you know so I mean Marco Sturm in Boston like at the end of the day I bet you there's a bunch of teams. I wish they Had a held on well i think it's better for the board to probably
Starting point is 00:26:07 waited out exactly for a good team that had a bad start but i can turn these guys going on he should just pull up all marisa just sit around wait he's now we got enough cake that was getting a certain idea of the other way to see what goes on maybe i think it pick and choose what opportunity happens to a percent of setup I think it's an opportunity for him to have a reset and go somewhere again to another scenario but and spotter will be there too I don't know what spotter situation but they're they're attached at the hip
Starting point is 00:26:36 yeah they've been together they were together in junior and great coaches I know I'm a you guys know I'm a DeBoer guy. We're all DeBoer guys. Yeah, we love Pete sucks. I just don't know What happened from? The end of the year if this is their evaluation. It's like okay now we got a whack them because well of the information We've gathered from the players or whatever I'll say this to the flip side of this great job to get if you're out there and you're a coach and you're still looking for a job Dallas is loaded man, they they they have everything set in terms of like how
Starting point is 00:27:10 they're built now I don't know if they've got what it takes to get over the top and that that that comes with some pressure because if whoever the next coach is gonna be Jim Nill and company are gonna say you gotta win a Stanley Cup with this team well the next coach has got to say to Wyatt Johnston and Robertson and Ottinger and Heiskenen, there's only so much like you guys are only doing so much when you get to a certain point can you elevate and be better? We're forgetting you've got Connor McDavid coming after you so what are you gonna do about it? We're forgetting one name that was Con Smythworthy and then Miko Ranton against Ebbbbinton. That's right.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Did you notice Rantanen at all? Yeah, he threw up some ninja dust against the Oilers. He didn't score the final eight or nine playoff games. But he's a guy that's there and that's my point. Eight years, 12 million. Coaches always say like it was the same thing when Barube got here. He didn't look at the Leafs and say, well, these guys can't win. He's like, I'll take these guys because I know I can get to the playoffs and I'll try
Starting point is 00:28:03 to change it. Well, he couldn't. Yeah. So, you know, I I'm not gonna sit here and predict that will happen with the Stars What I'm saying is if you get this job, you're going to the playoffs like you're one It's not a scenario where you're going to a bad team and it's gonna take you to a battle to get to the playoffs and you Win, yes to the year because you took them from you know a team that was last place and they snuck in You know kind of like the Calgary Flames were close to making the playoffs and Husker did a great job exactly this is a team loaded with talent and in their prime Jake
Starting point is 00:28:33 Autinger's 26 he has his in Harley like like like Ben's coming off and Sagan's around the corner is off the shades off they can they can continue to mold it if they want to so game two of the cup final tonight in Edmonton, I was saying before game one felt like a must-win for Edmonton and I would say it's a must-win for Florida tonight. Yeah, I think so. And we talked about it yesterday with Struddy, and I think he makes a very valid point. The idea of beating edmonton four times in five games just does not seem possible the way they're playing and especially the way they're playing at home yeah like it feels like this is put up a shot up time for the panthers now
Starting point is 00:29:15 the way that they're built the way that they're wired i would fully expect they come up line tonight yeah but it sets the scene for me where i'm more intrigued on how edmonton reacts yeah because it feels like a mcdavDavid Dry Settle legacy moment again like every night is but these two guys can come out here and put on an absolute clinic tonight first shift again Dry Settle scores that place is gonna go bananas on a Friday night Don't you feel like Edmonton should be feeling confident that they got that W in game one
Starting point is 00:29:41 and I don't even think they really had the best stuff Not the first 40 minutes. No, they didn't. They did later in the hockey game, but if they could get it to, I mean, I think both teams were accurate after the game when they said, neither of us are going to dominate for 60 minutes. But I think if Edmonton puts the pedal down, they could dominate for a lot more of the hockey game than what they did in game one.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah. Which could be a dangerous thing for the Florida Panthers. Well, if you play with the lead and make Florida do the comeback thing. for a lot more of the hockey game than what they did in game one. Which could be a dangerous thing for the Florida Panthers. Well, you play with the lead and make Florida do the comeback thing. Yeah, I mean, there's pockets of the game that I think both sides liked last game. But Edmonton, you know, the second half of the game, especially in OT, Florida looked like they had no gas left. So, again, just when we think we're going to count Florida out, like... Oh, I'm not counting them out
Starting point is 00:30:25 I'm not predicting they won't win. No, I I think I think it'll be a hell of a game tonight But I I think Ebbinton has to understand the magnitude of this game as well You don't you don't just sit back and go hey, we're happy with we won. We got a split. Yes You don't want to let your own building. You got to use that home ice. You got to use that last Change matchup too. That's the other thing. If you look at the analytics about it the other night, it's interesting. Knobloch went like, he didn't try and hide McDavid and Drysaddle away from Barkov, but
Starting point is 00:30:55 he went right at him. And McDavid started the game against them. And they went at him, and McDavid and Drysaddle, when they put them together, they won that matchup. You talk about experience ebb and ten should should understand what happened last year going down three oh and then coming like
Starting point is 00:31:10 they have to realize if we can put these guys in a whole you bury them in there as far as they can because they might crawl out in the further down they are that more difficult it's going to be for sure you want to shove them down further in their down to cut you've got to do it tonight and take a look at that's the thing right in the mentality like yes, they're champions. They're all they're champions, but they've also they play a lot of hockey and They've won before so they have their rings, right? like they're and that's like the psychology of a championship series I always find so fascinating because Last year Florida didn't have neither team had it sure there
Starting point is 00:31:45 were some individuals that have them but collectively they didn't this time to your point if you get them down to nothing or three nothing Florida they may look at it subconsciously not not publicly but subconsciously think we got ours we tried we made it here Edmonton's just buried us here and I think that should be a part of the psyche for the Reuters tonight. I mean it would be incredibly significant if they found a way to get a win. Let's see if Evan Bouchard is a difference maker tonight. I hope so. I mean he's the second or third best defenseman in the league. He better have himself tonight. I just want to say I
Starting point is 00:32:21 want to thank the supporters that I had direct messages with and conversations about supporting Evan Bouchard Oh, you're getting direct messages from a lot Gary from st. Albert some of their in the media noodles noodles uncle No, some are in the media that we have hockey conversations all the time in the first cut the first comment out of their mouth all the time Was thank you for saying that because no one has the jam to say it last year welcome oilers fans and sure take a shot of those if you do keep host them online take a look at the comments from the vancouver perfect about that the beauty of it you get at mitten on one side who are so ecstatic so i have the other side vancouver
Starting point is 00:32:58 and then you get like one columbus guys like what about sack warren ski almost like i was there on the other side of the day after you Columbus guys like what about sack warren ski and all my god stay out of it yeah there was a good idea from you well Adam Fox is nowhere close he's away play this year off the radar not even Adam Fox is not right now but again like two years ago he was body of work but he you know I will say this in fairness to oh he said right now the way this right now right now right now you know in the tiki hot macar goes in first and bouche art second all i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i completely aloof to any of the psychology we just talked about. Yeah, he's... He may show up late and just throw his gear on and be like, yeah, I'm ready to go. He's got that Drew Doughty type of vibe. Let's just go out and play. Drew Doughty late for the gold medal game.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Who was telling us that story? Prong. Gold medal game in Vancouver. He's like, oh yeah, I forgot about that. Slept in. I better find a way to make it to the rink and play 25 minutes as a 21. I don't think it was Prong's. It was Doughty.
Starting point is 00:34:04 No, no, no. Pronger told us that this guy walked in late. Pronger told the story that it was Dowdy that was late. Yeah it wasn't Prongs. Prongs had an A on his jersey and was 40 with kids. He was holding a PK meeting. Yeah, Pronger was there hours before the game. I don't think there was any disputing that. the Leafs front Derek Lalonde is yeah assistant coach here He was new. He knew Z is New Zealand alone. Yeah, and He comes out as Lane Lambert is on his way to Seattle and there was an opening for Craig Barube and his staff So I guess he won't be doing hockey night. I know buddy. Like honestly, I said this to you off air. It's a good hire He's smart hockey guy. I don't know if he was perceived more as a one or as a great associate because he's a tactical guy
Starting point is 00:34:48 You know how he talks on hockey night. You hear him how he talks like he's he's very strong tactically So if you have Barube, who's the the hammer the motivator all of that you need a tactical guy My understanding is Lane Lambert was really strong tactically. So you needed to replace that role. You've got Savvy, you got Mike Van Ryn running the D's so you've got a really good coaching staff there. I think Derek LeLonde's a great hire, like a fantastic hire and he's a good guy. Like I don't know, he doesn't take himself too seriously. Do you ever remember that article where it was like sexiest coaches in the NHL and he was third? Yeah, I do remember that.
Starting point is 00:35:26 And all the coaches were like teasing him and stuff. He's like, finally, I get my just do. Yes. Like he's a, I really like. I've enjoyed them like doing, you know, panel work and stuff like that. I obviously don't know him personally, but he's got great experience working with good coaches like down in Tampa. He was on Cooper staff and then obviously he was in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:35:43 He knows the division very well. I think that is a real advantage as well you're not bringing in a guy who's coached in San Jose Exactly and is our American Hockey League guy who's trying to catch up to the league like he knows everyone he knows everything about every system especially in the Atlantic division I think that's really significant. It is it's a good hire and you know, we talk about coaches and stuff like that. You ended up grabbing a good guy available because whether he's associate or assistant, I didn't read the fine print. But he's a, you know, your staff was lesser with Lane
Starting point is 00:36:16 Lambert leaving. Right. Now you fill that role with somebody who's equal or better. And relatively quickly and you found a guy that can step right in there. It's big. It definitely is big for the leaves alright date to the rbc canadian open a bunch of canadian flags at the top now cameron champ went low again today was four under on his days in the club house at twelve under richard t lee nine under canadian
Starting point is 00:36:38 so you got nick taylor who's still out there he's at nine under shane laurie is going low. Pender is at seven under. You got Corey Connors in the mix. You've got Mackenzie Hughes in the mix. Like the big those are the big four right of Canadian golf. Those are the big four right now. And of course, Mike, we're it is just this haze of fraud or Oh shot 64 combination. Well, there's one that says 64 is still a fraud, but I love you, oh dog. And the other one is, I can't read it, Hayes is still a fraud, but we love you. Okay, we're getting a lot of love out here. Your love in particular.
Starting point is 00:37:13 Getting a lot of love. All right, we're live at the rink hall TPC, Toronto, Osprey Valley for the RBC Canadian Open. James Duthey, this is highly anticipated. Oh my God. In studio in about 20 minutes, Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. Mail It In Friday was brought to you by Boston Pizza,
Starting point is 00:37:31 Canada's favorite sports bar. This playoff season, Boston Pizza is planning the parade. It has a new all-star playoff menu for you to enjoy. For pizza, pints and puck drops, visit your local Boston Pizza today. Thanks to the fan that sent this message in and it said, tell Brian that Adam Hadwin is playing well too. Oh, there we go.
Starting point is 00:37:52 My mistake, my mistake. Yes. How could I possibly forget about him? We love Adam. You know who I played in the Pro-I'm with last year? Tommy Fleetwood. Adam Hadwin. No, it was Adam Hadwin.
Starting point is 00:38:03 It was Fleetwood the year before before so it's another example of when Someone comes into presence with me rolling the rock they generally play well might take them You know let me ask you something what I don't understand about you is when you plan the programs with these guys Do you not develop personal relationships where you exchange numbers and then no I don't bother people is that what you're asking you? I guys antisocial yeah, I go I talk I I say hello and then it's hey great to see you Have a good time. I know exactly. I know what you're saying. Hey, can I snap up as soon as the I'll take a picture. I know and then you act away. You don't even want to talk to anyone. That's not true I'm happy to do it. These guys are all they're busy that you gotta understand because you don't understand these things
Starting point is 00:38:42 Canadians come to this tournament and they are pulled in every possible direction. That is the truth. They've got family, they've got events, they've got dinners, they've got all these different things. So I'm not in a position where I'm thinking, okay I'm gonna bother you to come on. Now Mac Hughes comes on all the time, Nick Taylor comes on all the time, we just had our boy Matt Scobie come on, that was amazing. Thank you. We're gonna get a lot of different people. Scobie, you know what what I'm really that guy I have made the cardinal let's fire things up he took the five minutes to come on with us I'll
Starting point is 00:39:09 support that guy any day of the week the thing you do it because you know those people don't want to be bothered he'll ask can you get me a tee time at like with these pros yeah that there was the guy last year where he's like hey I need a well we were we had Johnson Wagner the President's Cup and this guy was asking for a Scotty Cameron specialized like prototypes and Wagner was like is this guy serious right now like your conversation with him was why there was about ten conversations there were some wild things going on at this one that was the tea time conversation about going to saag. Yes, the tee time
Starting point is 00:39:47 conversation was outrageous. I don't have what it takes to do that. I don't have what it takes. But I'll get his pendee on it one day, my boy. I'll get him on and we'll get Hadwin on. Because you're right, I've got to mention him. He's been lights out. I was concerned that he was going to go, I need to come at Coppinwood. I need this and that. Well, we're going to get out. We're going to get out we're going to get out with him we come out every year his number I'll play golf with that guy anytime okay well I will I'm gonna try to get Aaron Rodgers on the show at some point do you send a request to the Steelers to see if we can get him in one-year deal he played his card so beautifully here because mini camp is next week and it's a mandatory
Starting point is 00:40:22 so he's coming on Aaron Rodgers no I still coming on Rodgers is coming on sorry I forgot that's only high profile it's Rick Rodgers we get it we can get his uncle on recluse on Pasadena we'll get Rick Rodgers on he'll come on and talk about his high school performance back in the day uncle Rico this guy played his card so beautifully He's been probably on some ayahuasca retreat for the last three months doing you know, whatever Everything everything what's the money? It's I don't I haven't seen the number. Do you know the number do you look that up 20 million?
Starting point is 00:40:59 Oh, it's probably more than that. I mean, it's oh, I got I think it's a 40 40 He's not he's still Aaron Rodgers and it's a one-year deal it's not a huge commitment and the quarterbacks are getting paid he's not he's not playing for cheap like that's not gonna happen but the money's irrelevant to him he's made so much money it's a one-year deal it's him and Tomlin the thing is it makes maybe the most interesting division that much more interesting because even though the wheels have kind of fallen off he's not New York anymore the Steelers make the playoffs every single year Tomlin wills them to a playoff position
Starting point is 00:41:30 every single year and you got Joe Burrow you got Lamar on the Ravens right you get the Browns and maybe Chidur Sanders like the AFC North is crazy when it comes to quarterback how do you think he's gonna work with Tomlin though I think he'll be fine because Tomlin's are largely a raw rod defensive guy and I think Tomlin understands he needs quarterbacking like he tried it with Russell Wilson he tried it with Justin Fields you got to trust the guy right like you got to have a quarterback especially in that division and the truth is Tomlin they might butt heads but Rogers is not gonna you're not changing this guy's stripes man he's
Starting point is 00:42:04 gonna go out and sling it and play ball the way he always does but Tomlin looks like a guy who stuff you in a garbage can if he doesn't like what he's saying I don't know how that works just looking at the dynamics of both of them Wow there could be fire I think there's gonna be some fireworks but he looks like an intense guy yeah he is like and he's not gonna take any nonsense and Rogers with the smirk walking off and that like he might just scissor kick him once on the sidelines Well, you could try that and Rogers, you know what? I'll do is say I'm out of here
Starting point is 00:42:35 quarterback for you anymore That's true. Like that's we talk about Jake Ottinger in Dallas Yeah, I'm zapped by a million when it comes to a quarterback in the NFL Yeah, it's like the not by a million but the profile of that position the importance of that position a guy of that stature Like Aaron Rodgers, you know, he's got kind of a Phil Mickelson thing going where his his reputation has changed later in his career Yeah, but he's an all-time great like he's the Phil Mickelson of football. It's actually a perfect comparison now There are you know, they're in the news for different reasons right and for different approaches but can i speak the guy can play in the air and save his reputation we're
Starting point is 00:43:13 talking about phil can phil save his reputation by air and phil can on the course anymore is fifty five he's done is not gonna play anymore he still committed to live there still paying them i don't know what his deal is up that's gonna going to be interesting. Fascinating. Like if Liv looks at Phil and goes, what did you really bring? What did Mikkelsen bring?
Starting point is 00:43:30 A lot of those original deals are up after this year. Well, what did Mikkelsen bring? Like he brought eyeballs, but ultimately what like he didn't bring eyeballs. He brought attention. I don't believe he won one event. He might have picked off one in the first year. I don't know if he has. What did he put in his jeans though?
Starting point is 00:43:43 Oh, he got paid a lot. He probably put a hundred million dollars in his pocket dollars more than that. I think we I think more than that I think he got two or two fifty out of the gate Okay, so you put a quarter billion dollars in your jeans like I I put that in my jeans and see well I'll do anything. That's the truth like morals get thrown out the window. I'm like 250s in front of you You want to 200 boys, it was 200. 200 million. Doogie from the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Doogie off the top turnbuckle, great insight. There's a Doogie cam, we've been here for three days. When did Doogie get his own camera? It's just been on my camera. Doogie, this guy's a stud. And trying to be a hero too. Put him on more Gapman, put Doogie on more. I'm gonna add on him though, his hair's all fluffy.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Doogie looks phenomenal right now, get thing on your tinder profile and start making this happen. Dude just that little video clip just say here's a glimpse into what I do. Look at that man that is money. You'll have clicks left right center. Doogie is going to be overloaded with DMs this weekend. It's true. Doogie have your A stuff ready.
Starting point is 00:44:43 U up? Is that what it is? U-up? Yeah, U-up. Little U-up question mark? There's going to be a lot of U-ups saying your way. Doogie's going to be on fire on whatever app you're using these days. Yeah, whatever these apps are. We need a Canadian open app just directing ladies towards Doogie and the Doogie Cam. The Doogie Finder. Just put him on a map and have a hot zone where he is yeah look at doogie man just a million bucks ratings through the roof whenever the doogie cams on why are we just learning about that on Friday we've been here for three
Starting point is 00:45:11 days they haven't had him on once all right do you're getting a lot of action the next two hours great job and theapman is just crushing it back there too. The whole crew, man. Usually in his van. He usually is. Really freaking people out in his creepy van out there. Can I throw a break? Sure. Why not? I shot the round of my life and one of my colleagues, James Duffy, tried to tear me
Starting point is 00:45:40 down. He made up a fake score sheet. He drew things on it. Question my integrity. He did up a fake score sheet, he drew things on it, questioned my integrity, he did all kinds of bad things. Canadian Screen Award pictures. That's crushing. That is awful that he put that up there. That's crushing that they would do that to me, of all people. Forget you. Anyway, the apology is coming up next. You've been listening to Overdrive powered by Fandual.
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