OverDrive - OverDrive - March 21st, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: March 21, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Analyst Mike Johnson joins to discuss the biggest headlines around the NHL and the Maple Leafs' victory against the Rangers. Nashville Predators Analyst Hal Gill joins to discuss the downfall season for the team, Andrew Brunette expressing his priorities for the stars and what has led to the tumultuous performances and Aaron Rodgers meeting with the Steelers.

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Bell, getting a new phone just got better. Hour 2 Overdrive continues powered by FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Brian Hays, the Odog, Jeff O'Neil, Jamie Noodles, McClennan, Mike Johnson coming up here in a moment. The Leafs coming off a big win last night. And one of those nights in the NHL where there was just a lot going on. Alex Ovechkin scores again last night. What is he, seven now? Is it seven?

Yeah. And yet running out of time, right? I think he went five straight without a goal and then he scores last night and kind of a vintage OV just goes to the net and wax at it and finds a way to get in last night He needs like a he needs a he needs a garbage clean. Yeah, he needs a hat trick man Like he really needs a hat trick He needs something where it's like a game where you're right like garbage goals or just everything he throws like he needs to have a Vintage Ovi night back in the day where it's like the hat trick and you know everything he throws at the net just finds its Way in because what it what did they

Left they got 13 left. Is it like that's It's getting lean there like yeah, right you need you need six to tie them and Seven to pass them and they have 13 left So, you know, he's on pace to do that, you know The he's on pace for what 41 goals on the season give or take to go to the wire man is on the last game yeah probably those people already kind of by no is old running mate back from was like i'm if he gets close i'm gonna start traveling to see it

yet i think rutsky is planning on doing the same thing i think once he's within a handful of goals uh... how do we feel if he landed right on the number? Like if he hits 894, game 82, and then we go into the playoffs and you got to wait next year? Sucks.

It kind of would suck. I don't think so. I like what a build up to the start of next season. I guess so. I guess so. Yeah. It would be scheduled. It's like, okay, if you build it up, like he hits 894 this year and then you build it

up to the start of the season. Now it's Gretzky and Backstrom and all that. Like it would actually bring some excitement to the start of the season where they would travel with the Caps and it's like, okay, it's just a matter of time, his first goal of the season. And what if that went six games? But that's the problem, I think is the... Yes, from a marketing standpoint, it probably would be great for the league to sit on that

and get into September next year and say, the next time this guy scores, it's the golden goal basically by Ovechkin. It sets a new record. But what if he gets injured in camp? You know, what if... Yeah, he goes seven, eight games and he's slow out of the gate and things are going south and it's just like now what... It just feels like there's been such a buildup this year because he's been so good and he's been scoring at will and he overcame the injury.

I think it's tough to bet against him that he'll do it still. You know, even with 13 games to go, it's very difficult to bet against this guy in terms of scoring goals and you and you know that the team is sitting pretty so their only focus will be exactly so if he's needs four goals the last four games he's getting ten shot attempts every night. You know Dylan Strom and those guys. I can't remember, was it Utah? Dry Cytle was going for 50, and Utah's penalty kill was four guys around Dry Cytle.

It was ridiculous. You could tell what they were trying to do. And to me, I wouldn't want to be that goalie. I'm sorry like I've been enough for I've been in a couple you know record setting you know it's you don't want to be on highlights the rest of your life. Yeah one of the biggest goals ever scored when he hits 895 you know it sets a new record it it will be played forever it will be forever. It will be one of his highlight reels that will be played forever.

The puck will go to the Hall of Fame and they'll talk to the goalie. What was it like? I guess they played Pittsburgh the last game of the season. That would be anti-climactic, like against Sid. That would be pretty incredible. If he passed it, if we scored 895 against Sid You know what that reaction and interaction would be like from sick because the whole game is gonna shut down and everyone's gonna celebrate and I guess I'm back strumming Gretzky and Sid I'm sure will be there to

Celebrate him said I'll give him the the old dog handshake. He he was fired right out for right out there the howard great job he gets in there before his teammates i don't write in the scrum uh... here's mike johnson rt s and hockey analyst if all the end ends the season at eight ninety four tie with gretsky would that be a good thing or a bad thing uh... i think it'd be a good thing or a bad thing? I think it would be a hilarious thing. I don't think it would be anything.

I mean, whether he, you know, you think about it in a big picture, I guess you'd have more time to build it up for next summer, but it would be a bit of a, it would feel like a bit of a letdown given that he's had such a great year that he could do it this year. So I suppose it'd be a bad thing because you wanted to finish it in style with a flourish and Do it this year because if you go all summer he plays next year He's going to do it. So if he doesn't in game six next year with his first goal of the year It won't feel as you know built up because he hasn't had the whole year chasing it down. So I guess it'd be bad But give the fact that I generally like sort of chaos in the world

It would be funny especially if he you know he gets within four and then the whole league is chasing him around and Gretzky's got to travel around and what if he's traveling around for like three weeks he's got a month of his life to give away and followed Obi and the hopes that he scores his four goals so but I was also really about today, Hayes, about how big of a production will this be? Because I don't know, maybe you guys can think of a more, I guess, the last time a record of this significance was broken was a Gretsch on the goals

and Gretsch on the points. Like, I don't know in today's era, the amount of preparation and pomp and circumstance they can put into a mid-game goal, but I think you're going to test it for this one. Well, and don't you think too, when you're getting close, like this guy is capable at 39 of scoring a hat-trick. So you're right, like if he's somewhere three or four goals away, like you kind of have to have everything kind of set that it could happen potentially that night if he has a throwback night.

Lost in all of this, Hayes you pointed out, like he could have a 40-goal season at 39 years old. Yeah, it's incredible. It's incredible. It's incredible. That's why I think you got to do it this year. Not that it won't be celebrated in the. It just it's been such a build-up It's been such a great season for him for the team

Everything's worked out. Everything's been been it just the crescendo of him scoring it the last game of the year or real close It's like a chase to 50 like that's kind of it's a chase to 895 yet We've pressed fast forward. And we're at the end of the, I don't want a cliffhanger and I gotta come back for season two. I don't want that. You know what I mean? Like this isn't 24.

I don't want Jack Bauer. So actually it's the president that did it. We'll see you next fall. I know it's not ideal, Hazy, but I think it would be cool. You'd get over it about mid-summer, you'd be like, man, Ovi's gonna gonna do this like maybe we could be on site or something well that now you're talking maybe it happens in toronto or something that that could be

you're right to start looking at the sked instead of thinking okay where could it happen where could he end up playing you know speaking of records i think uh... i read the william newlander he he hit 600 points in his career last night and he is fifth fastest in Leaf history to do that in terms of hitting 600 points as a Leaf. Matthews and Marner are ahead of him. Sittler and Sundeen, the other two. So that's pretty incredible that three of them are in that group and it's you know it's Sunday and it's

sitler I don't think Gilmore played here long enough to even hit 600 points as a leave he would have he probably would have done it in about four seasons the way he was going but pretty incredible and Willie looked pretty good last night Johnny he is amazing and you know I think he's both been a beneficiary and to his detriment has played in this era with Marner's and Matthews because Offensively hasn't been as prolific as those two guys and yet when you think about it, A's if Marner resigns Then by end of their careers these three guys will be one two and three all time in goals, assists, points. Like they will own every record there is as far as longevity with the Toronto Maple Leafs

between the three of them. It's going to be amazing to think about the long history of the Leafs that William Nylander will be the second or third highest scoring Leaf of all time. Morgan Rielly might be the highest scoring defensive of all time when it's all said and done and the team still hasn't maybe had the success they wanted but individually, yeah amazing stuff. I also saw he was the sixth fastest Swede all time to 600 points or whatever it might be so yeah it's a pretty impressive stat and I think this season game after game he sort

of shows why he's such a pivotal player to Toronto because he offers something different and something that is away from Matthews and Marner, right? Different matchups, different style, a bit more individual, more puck possession, more kind of I'll take it on myself and that's a nice compliment to those two guys. So yeah, he's pretty incredible and then, you know, in a night where John Tavares gets 1100 points, that's a lot of points, guys. That's 68 in the history of the league. Sixty eight.

So he's going to play another two, three, four years, who knows, whatever. Pick up another 150 points. He'll end up inside the top. I don't know. Lurdy, not 3050, inside the top 50, top 45 all time. And I don't think I ever think about John Zemar as being a Hall of Famer, even though his international record is incredible and everything but the NHL winning he's done. But 1100 points, it sort of snuck up on you that that's a big, big number.

Johnny, what do you make of the last three games does it is it just these three games have happened or do you like the way it's kind of come together after stumbling does it change your opinion of the team and what they're capable of what are these three games for you well i think it's nothing else so they deserve a lot of credit

for playing well against good competition when there was a lot of noise around them. Now maybe they would say there's no uncertainty when they lose you know they have a kind of a rough patch there for seven eight games they drop down to third place all the market is in a tizzy that it's all going to fall apart and they're gonna come third maybe they'll come fourth the sends are gonna catch them all that stuff and they're going to come third, maybe they'll come fourth, the sends are going to catch them, all that stuff. And they acknowledge they didn't play well. They were led out of the wilderness.

And maybe this is the most important thing. The first couple of games, especially that game against Colorado, the way Austin Matthews played in that game, that might be the most significant takeaway of this stretch. Yes, it's nice. They won. Yes, they're right back in the thick of chasing down first in their division and it's gonna be up for grabs. But if Austin can play like he did against Colorado more often, that changes Toronto and their outlook for success in the playoffs. So maybe that's probably the

thing that you look to the most. Yeah, I think when you look at the game last night and we discussed this in the last hour, that top line has been outstanding. You referenced the Tavara stats, and I referenced the Willie stats. Matthew Nyes, there was a stat circulating last night, only one of three players in the league with 25 plus goals and 150 hits. The other two are Tom Wilson and Brady Kachuk. That's pretty

exclusive you know arbitrary company I get you know you can come up with like who's got 120 hits and you know 15 assists and 12 goals on the road like you can do different things that kind of isolate. Are we really gonna jack like I love the guy and he's been incredible but are we gonna jack up 25 goals like it's 47 or something? He's he's not that old though Oh, that's the thing. I agree with you if this is like Mitch Marner scoring 25. He is Again, here I am stats guy. I'm pretty sure I read this morning. I will corroborate this He is leading the league in points for players under the age of 22. I think 23 he is 22 now. Okay, so under the age of 22 and younger whatever

it is but that's what he's doing and yes he's in great company because he has to play with Matthews and Marner but that goal he scored last night like Willie sets it up but he walks in and he blasts that shot. Dude he wired it. He looked like a sniper not a power forward. Exactly that wasn't like in front of the net off your shin pad Battling like this guy came down Broadway and absolutely shelf that puck like that was a rocket and I Don't know man. I think it's pretty significant when you you consider. He is a big boy. He can hit he can fight He can cause chaos below the dots and 25 goals is nothing to sneeze at Well, we don't even have a guy in the league who scored 50 yet this year. Yeah. Well, I I think the one thing guys

And it was brought to my attention today. This is getting crazy and silly is like Would you off with somebody offer sheet him? Listen, if it's possible, I guess I don't know I hate the idea of like it never happens. If they offer sheeted Holloway and Broberg, of course someone would offer sheet them. Possibly. And look how good those guys have played in St. Louis. Yeah, they've played.

Like that wasn't an offer sheet that, well, that's a waste of money and drove up salaries. That was an offer sheet that changed the franchise for St. Louis. They've both been incredible. Well, and the one thing is, is you could, it would be a double-edged sword too. Because you're, if you got crazy with numbers, the Leafs might not be able to match it. Not that they wouldn't, you know, you would have to make a decision on somebody else, right? Like, you know, Tavares ain't coming back at a number or, you know, Mitch is number high.

Like it just, you can really throw a wrench into it. Or with the projections of what the salary cap's supposed to be, Jamie, if you're the player, why wouldn't you say to yourself, I have an opportunity, and hey, not all players think like this, but as a winger that used to enjoy playing with really good centermen, look at Austin Matthews and why wouldn't he want to sign a three-year bridge deal and say, I can go to war with this guy And be and saddle up next to him for the next three years And then everything's going up and maybe of course I'm gonna cash in again after that

I don't understand how the player wouldn't be thinking like that like it to me It's a slam dunk like you get to go play with Austin Matthews and whoever else Possibly Mitch Marner possibly somebody else But that's that's the guy I want to ride shotgun with and I'll do it for three more years and then see what happens after that I'm gonna be in a good spot regardless Johnny I I think Dylan Holloway had aspirations playing with dry saddle You know what I mean? Like that's like when you look at it I think it just you have to put thought to it, you know know because he's like you said he's 20 he'd be 23 years

old he's a big strong you know winger a guy who can show some versatility yeah listen Johnny you've pointed out and you like this is he's a surprise goal scorer for you is he not because he didn't score you at a high rate in college right yeah a hundred percent i think that they got we talked about him even before he got to you to the trolley police like we are he's gonna be good but the idea that is going to be a massive score i'm not so sure right now you know we still might end up with one fifty five point

which is a great number of you might have a thirty goals which is a tremendous season but still not maybe but the fact remains that he talked out at 21 goals in college even in the USHL which is going way back you're like 17 and 14 this is the most goals he scored in the last seven years at any level 25 so it's not like he's a proven Jeff O'Neill caliber score like he just does it everywhere at a high clip. He does it He doesn't make him not a good player. Thank you, but it just makes them not a great goal scorer So yeah, I mean yes offer sheets would be sitting floated around this summer and oh, I'm glad you're paying attention during

Trade deadline where we talked about more players going short-term Understanding the where the markets going and where their contracts will go relative to the market even if their game doesn't you know take off if he gets 30 goals three years from now the five million dollars he wants now will be seven million dollars then and it'll be there for him there's gonna be two more teams in the league there's gonna be revenues going up like it will be there for him for sure then so that is something that all teams least included are to have to kind of deal with this summer with their players and their negotiations. Let me be clear about one thing.

I was not paying attention to that type of thing. I know you weren't. But I just look at it in a very simple kind of situation for what he's in. The people in the city love the guy. He's having success. You guys mentioned the goal scoring. You don't think being around Austin Matthews on a day-to-day basis has kind of helped in that regard, what to do, what not to do, practice habits, the way he shoots the puck. I'm pretty sure that that's had an uptick in him scoring goals like the way

he's doing. Obviously, he's got skill, but it just seems like a fit. And if you have a great fit and you can sign a bridge deal, I don't know why he wouldn't do it. Obviously, he's entitled to do whatever the hell he wants. If he wants to try to hit a home run and sign an offer, I don't know what he wants to do. But you just look at the situation. I don't know how it could be better. Great City, one of the best players in the world at center ice and you're having a heck

of a time doing it. I don't know what would be better than that. Well, and the Leaf you can try to offer them a long-term deal, right? Like they don't. Yeah, they could. They might be wise to, because they could lock in some upside, but I don't wanna digress,

but have you guys seen the clips of that, was it Thaddeus Young talking about playing in Toronto? Yes. The basketball player? Yeah. I don't know if you guys, anyway, he was Johnny. Yeah, but custom. I understand all that.

I get it, I get it, but I tell you what, now I don't think that matters as much for Maddie Nyes, maybe for hockey players, because the idea of going to Canada seems more normal. But like this idea that going over the border is such a headache for American players, it's such an American thing to think because, you know, we live close to the border. Virtually everyone I knew growing up in Scarborough, like, you know, crossed the border on occasion, had a passport, whatever. That's not the case. But you just wonder, you know, we've seen some American players want to get out of Canada for various reasons. But just maybe think of that clip, like, I'm watching you shaking my head, like, you're in the NBA and you're complaining because, you know, your family has to go through customs

or have to get passports. It's just, it's wild the way athletes think sometimes. Well, and it, but you, you gotta remember Johnny, Johnny is people, they come from different backgrounds. Like I know of players that are American whose family don't have passports, but I don't have not come to visit them in Canada. It's like, yeah, get one. It takes three weeks. I understand that, but not everyone, but not everybody is as organized as you or I or whatever. They're

like flat out people that, like, yeah, I'd love for my brother to come. He doesn't have a passport. I'm like, well, you can't get him one. Yeah, you get around to it. They don't comprehend it. It's insane. But and not lying i'd i have a teammate that that did not their family did not come didn't have passports like it's just that's not going to be a i'd believe you what age are we talking about here is that i don't kids are thirty-year-old men back with her this is a national hockey league player whose family did not

some of them didn't have passports. So you're like, okay, fair enough. Like, Johnny, the one thing I don't understand is, and I know this is preferential treatment, to avoid the problems of the athlete, can't they like make a deal with the customs where it's like they bring a customs agent over to the where the bird takes off and they come over look at the passports and have some kind of system where it's a little bit more easy or is that just not, is that asking too much? I think that's probably inappropriate.

It used to be that way, like when I first started in Toronto and we'd fly in on our plane, the customs agent would walk on the plane and you just walk off the plane, flash of your passport and walk off. There was no forms, like literally you didn't break strike. You flash it to them like you're walking in a bar and you go off. It was two seconds, but then after, sort of maybe after 9-11, the rules kind of changed

and you had to go through the actual terminal which is a bit of a pain because you're walking. So I want to explain this to people so they understand that this is how big of a deal. I didn't find it a big deal. You fly to the private terminal, you get on a bus with your luggage, the bus goes to terminal three or whatever terminal it is, you get out in a line that's shorter than everybody else's, you go through the customs machine, get your luggage, and then you get

on the bird. It's really not that I like to wait you go through security and they they grill you and then they've got jerseys on the other side for you to sign is that true well no when I plan in Montreal like I obviously have an enormously common name yes and I would I'd be going through just like oh said, the regular customs but our own little cubicles that are just for our team. I'd walk in behind Saku Koibu and Guy Carboneau with the team and he'd be like, you know, would you have a warrant for your arrest in Louisiana? I'm like, no, I don't. He's like, give me the gears. And then

I'm like, he's like, I know who you are. I'm like, what are we doing here? I'm walking through the team. I started during the way out way out it's great you're absolutely right your kids brain you what happened in there well as the amazing thing here is americans i don't think realize that it's the american customs like that

talk to your own country about the issue that's you when you go through customs is that canadian saying you can't go down there you're going to american customs great one down there that's not a real job yeah i would have been a bit well they will be you walk back in no problem right now but like it's you know to fly to the states that's not a canadian thing that's the american are like you have to come through our process in order to come into our country

Yeah, and they're the ones that are saying I go through terminal one You want to fly in the country? You got to come in come talk to us. Those are those are Americans They're in the end. You're right. And it but in the end like always right like it is slightly Uncomfortable. I don't even know it's a pain in the ass. It's it's It is slightly uncom... I don't even know. It's a pain in the ass. It's... Comparing it to others. It shouldn't be... Small annoyance to others.

It's a small annoyance that you should just get used to it. But noodles, the thing is, like other cities when I played in Carolina, you can literally drive onto the tarmac, get out of the car and go onto the bird and you fly wherever. Yes. Yes, is that nice? Yes, is that convenient? But if somebody's paying you $ million dollars a year like can't you just shut up and do it like is it really? Those guys that those guys for the Raptors man They're their worst players making nine million dollars a year. Well, and you're pissed off about That's an issue with that is right. Is that like that?

That young made you know a ton of money which he was entitled to that's that's where it goes in the NBA Didn't made a ton of money, which he was entitled to, that's the way it goes in the NBA. Didn't play a ton, didn't do a ton, they re-signed him, which he was willing to accept the contract. Of course. And then on the way out, he's like bad mouth in the team, or the process and the setup. And you're like, dude, as an ambassador to the team, can you just take your $40 million and not talk about it? Let's do a breakdown of what you contributed to the organization can you just take your 40 million dollars and not talk

about a breakdown of what you contributed to the organization for the money zero but it is a reality it is it is one of the annoyed one of what your time here it's the Raptors it's not you it's a Raptor who could be annoyed with your performance while you are here absolutely and I'm listening like and you got to do this 41 times it's crazy I'm like no man you don't do've got to do this 41 times? It's crazy. I'm like, no man, you don't do 41 one game road trips. Like think about this guys.

Think. You do it like whatever. 28 times, 24 times. And the whole thing, I'm just like, it's just crazy. The way the special basketball perceives this whole situation. And the other thing too is, this is one person's opinion. Like everyone else is fine with it for the most part. I mean yeah it's you know we could complain about other things but you know I saw that and I saw the reaction and I get it and you know we've all been there we've all played in

the states we've all played in Canada like you know yeah it's slightly uncomfortable certain times but in the end like that's his opinion that's what he looks back on it but there's other people who'd be like I'm fine with it man I like the city I like so exactly like we're looking we're focusing on the one guy that you know we'll call him a pigeon or not one guy who was like you know didn't like it and so what but there's a lot of other people that had no problem with it or just was like, yeah, fine, man, that's the cost of doing business. Absolutely.

Everyone's got a different viewpoint on different cities. The thing is, this one is unique to Toronto. It's the only one in the NBA where you've got to deal with it. And we're in a different country up here. So that's just always been the case. All right, Johnny, enjoy your weekend. We'll do it again early next week. All right, boys, have a good weekend.

There's Mike Johnson joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline. Drive the built-in Canada fuel-efficient, fun to drive Toyota RAV4. Gas or hybrid models available. Visit mapletoyota.com. How about Vladdy maybe liking it? Yeah, Vladdy, now he's like, hey, I'm going to be about this as well, and oh, I think you nailed it a couple days ago Like I think nervous Vlad is panicking. I think it was just you know like hey, let's get the temperature going open I don't know because it's it seems like it's all smiles

And hey looks like you know we're on the pathway to get this done. Like I think he's sensing that, you know, I might wanna sign the deal and put a bunch of money in my pocket here and not go through this. Yeah, I mean, Mark Shapiro saying what he said yesterday was that's front page stuff, man. Like we're going to sign him. Like being that definitive with it

is pretty significant messaging from the president of the club and it also might be a crock haze with opening day not far away. It could be about trying to quiet everything too. Yeah it very well could be like we got to go out there and maybe talk to Vlad and said Vlad can you go out do us a favor and you say yeah I'm optimistic too and let's just forget it because in reality if they have an awful season and they lose then it's gonna be a completely different conversation next year. Anyway, I think she pyro kind of knows that and If it's a great season and they're playing great then you know Who knows what the mood will be at that point, but they have to try and quiet this down

I don't think it accomplished that people are still gonna be buzzing about it when he goes through new york and boston or wherever it's going to be a constant conversation and he's got a post wait he's got a play well yeah i thought he that that's at the forefront of it your professional athlete you apply get a hundred sixty two games left as a blue j at least you gotta play well uh... right here the bond coming up we've got dear hazy being about an hour

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the tournament continues March Madness and We got that going through the weekend we got the Valspar we get the Leafs in Nashville the Raptors are on the way home and get San Antonio on Sunday, which sucks because San Antonio is up here for that one game and when he's not playing, you know, that would have been a big ticket for people. I bet you online secondary market, right? When you get a Western Conference team, it's like when McDavid comes or McKinnon's in town when he's the same thing and the guy's done for the year. And I haven't heard anything on him either with the blood clots and how that's going.

It was one of those things where it was announced and then it all disappeared. The player, the talk about it, it was kind of a weird vibe. Yeah, really strange. I mentioned the Valspar, man. People are losing their mind at the Valspar. I saw Saheed Tagala tomahawk chuck, like, chuck his club into the woods today the guy yesterday kicked his putter 30 feet in the air I saw another guy chipping around the green missed it and then took three chunks out of the side of the I was just like what is going on here then Justin Thomas said he was complaining about waiting to see if he's making the cut or not.

And I was like, dude, you're not playing any good. Yeah, no kidding. Like, dude, watching him and Jordan Spieth right now, it's something else. I know Justin Thomas had some unbelievable rounds at the players, but those guys aren't the same, man. They're not the same. Have, have you guys, I mean, this will be a list. It'll probably be more of a sports center,

but Hazy, maybe somewhere down on a slower week, a list. What's the top five meltdown? You guys have probably seen some stuff on the course. Chucking the club, that happens all the time. Have we seen snapping the club? I'm talking from pros. Off the top of your head. Have you seen an absolute reaction that you're like, I didn't see that one coming?

I mean, I don't know if you can ever necessarily say that. You're never going to see a guy who's in the lead or contention do that. That's not going to happen. It's always the guy on Thursday or Friday who's probably going to miss the cut anyway and will snap a putter. Like that's happened at, I think, was it Siwoo Kim that happened? I think at the Masters he snapped his putter. He didn't do it intentionally, but it happened.

Once you lose it, you can't replace it. You can't replace it, right? Exactly. If it happens on a fluke, like if your driver breaks in a swing they may let you replace it but if you personally do something that causes that type of malfunction you're out and this guy's wrapping up like going through a man corner at Augusta putting with a wedge which was a little bit strange but so Heath here I've never seen so he yeah that's wild. There's fans over there too.

Oh yeah. I think they're just, I don't know, maybe it's getting to a point this season that's, I don't know, maybe around the halfway point where things are getting on their nerves. I heard some crazy talk from Victor Hovland today too. This guy won the FedEx Cup, like, $20 million a couple years ago, and he was talking today saying, I don't know where my golf ball's going, and the guy's leading the tournament. He's at the top of the tournament. It was bizarre listening to him.

Yeah, he's five under and in the clubhouse, but you're right, this course is playing tough. I think it does every year, doesn't it, Innisbrook? I'm pretty sure it has a reputation of kind of crushing these guys yeah because the leaders seven under which on tour is not something you see very often so these guys yeah they're not feeling it man Billy Horschel had the same commentary last week at the players he was like he was like I want to get it to the house that just get me off the course I have no idea where this thing's going and that is a terrifying thought one that I've had many times but I'm an amateur these guys are pros. All right, Pierre Lebrun coming up,

Dear Hazy B in just under an hour the Leafs are in Nashville tomorrow here is former Leaf and Preds analyst Hal Gill joining us. What's happening Hal? Hey guys guys. How's it going? Doing pretty well. We were talking about that team down in Nashville and just how disappointing the season's been. Now Andrew Burnett came out after the game last night and said that he needs more from his veterans and the guys on long-term deals and they need to be more professional and show the rookies and the young players how to operate. What is your interpretation of that and do you think it will see will see any change from the predators as of tomorrow night

uh... you know i think that's a long time coming uh... shiite i i feel like it needed contributions up and down the lineup and the veterans iron supposed to start it right there you know they have fifteen games left, right? They're trying to at least establish identity so that they have something to go in because let's face it, they got good players. Like we got some guys that can, they know how to do the hockey and they're not doing

it and so they need to come together because I think Barry Trotz is looking for who wants to be part of this and who's part of the solution and right now there's just a lot of problems. It's just it's not good. It was a lackluster effort and I think you have to look at veterans. You know sadly it's a tough spot for those guys and Bruno said that. Like, hey, it's a hard spot you're in. You're used to being in a playoff hunt, but now you've got to find a way to dig in and help the young guys along and that hasn't happened. Skalzy, how dangerous would it be for Trotze to kind of bring back all the same kind of players and then you know we'd

mentioned earlier trying to add to it like don't they need to completely try to mix this thing up as much as they can in the summer because it's been a disaster that's what it's been. Well yeah it's tough I think and Barry Trotz is pretty honest talking about Andrew Burnett and growing as a coach you know Trotsky's been through that he's been a coach and he's he's had to change his ways and you know you think you have all the answers as a young coach and you want to play this way and then your personnel doesn't match that way and then you have to you have to adjust and I think you know Burnett has tried to do

that he's straight maybe a couple little trying to do that and he's trading maybe a couple little adjustments here and there but he's got to get the buy-in from the guys and I think you know you look around and you say blow up the team and and start fresh but honestly I look at all the guys that they have and they should be good. They should be a lot better and if they can play together, they're going to be good. It's a couple pieces here and there and free agent signing and using some of the draft picks and maybe getting some young guys to step up and then they could be right back

in the mix. So I think you have to be careful with either blowing it up or a standing pat. And I think it's a valid point that you kept, Barry Trotz kept Ryan O'Reilly and Colton Sissons and Michael McCarron, didn't let those guys go at the trade deadline, because I think he thinks we're gonna need those guys sooner rather than later and those guys will hopefully be part of a winning mix next

year. So, Hal, what have you seen? There's guys that have been there for years, the Forsberg, guys like that, Yossi, I know he's banged up, Tsarous, that type of stuff, but what have you seen specifically from Stamkos and Marciusso? And how difficult has it been for them to really adapt to their new environment? We had Trotze on the show earlier a couple months back and he said, he called them legacy players from other organizations and it's been a tough adjustment. What have you seen specifically from those two players and how tough it's been and really

the difference in their games from where they were in their respective organizations before? Yeah, I think it's tough to try to, you know, you say, okay, I'm going to plug this guy in here and you have you know a guy like Steven Samcoats hey he's gonna go into a spot on the power play and you have Roman Yossi at the top and it's gonna be perfect and then you know when it all plays out it's a different path that Victor Hetman gives him a perfect pass exactly where he wants it and then Roman Yossi is a great player but he doesn't put it in the same spot and so Steven Samco has to adjust to it.

You know, Marcius is always used to playing a certain style and then it's a different style on a different team and he's got to figure it out, he's got to adapt and so yeah, you know, I think a lot of it comes down to confidence. You talked about Philip Forsberg, and Phil is a great player. He was playing some great hockey in the beginning of the season, and he was just missing the net. He wasn't scoring. And so then he started changing his game. And then, you know, if you don't score, you change.

But he was doing all the right things. And so he lost a little confidence and then the game slips away from him. I think that's happened with a lot of guys. And so I think it can be as quick as just a little adjustment and then they start going again. But we don't know until it actually happens. With Hal Gill, Lee Sin-Nashville playing the Preds tomorrow, you see all these teams in the central as a Preds analyst and it's loaded with Winnipeg and Dallas and Colorado, then

you got Vegas and Edmonton and LA in the Pacific. As a guy who is in that conference that watches it closely, do you have a team in particular that you think is clear-cut, you know, the best of the bunch in terms of pursuing a Stanley Cup? Like, who would be your Cup favorite out west right now? I don't know. They're all going to beat the snot out of each other. I think it's going to be fun, but I hate to say it, I'm a Winnipeg Jets fan right now because, you know, I like Luke Shen, played with Luke Shen in Philly

and we had him and he gets traded off through Pittsburgh and ends up there and I think that's a deep team. Just watching them and the way they play, there's not so many gaps. The goal-tening all the way throughout, they have the depth and they have the size and the skill and speed and it's going to be tough to beat them but the shame of it all is I think Colorado and Dallas are going to beat each other up and sadly one of those teams is going to go home early and that's the devastating part about this whole thing is all these teams loading up and what could be great playoff cup runs are going to be cut short just because they're going

to have to go against each other. So I would go with Winnipeg just because of the depth, but you know, it's hard to cut out like Dallas and what they've done has been exceptional. I Think Colorado you got a McKinnon in my car. How can you count them out? So I Don't like predicting but I think What I'm seeing it might be one thing here Great catching up with you how we appreciate you doing this Yeah, you got it guys. How gilled. I don't know where he was. Was he

sticking his head out of his Jeep on the way on the highway? Ace Ventura style. Uncomfortable at times there but great catching up with Hal we always appreciate it. Yeah listen you got Colorado and Dallas likely playing in the first round and that's the nature of the beast. That's the way the setup goes. And Joe from the Bridge pointing out if the Blues get in, it could be Braden Shen versus Luke Shen in the first round because it would be St. Louis versus Winnipeg, which that would be a pretty cool story.

But we're getting close. Things are going to shake out here. And Winnipeg's been the best team pretty much all year. Them and Washington are just leapfrogging each other basically every night for that President's Trophy at this point. The most consistent. I believe Winnipeg has lost three in a row the whole year as far as losses and all of that.

I think Wash is the same thing. So they've been the most consistent. They haven't had as many ups and downs, but I still think there's a nine pack. Like you could make an argument for eight, nine teams type of thing to go, okay, I could see this. I could see that if it all comes together. I watched that Colorado team live last night.

Man, they are good. Man, they blow the doors off all of us last night. 5-1 was generous. It was generous. They stopped playing that 5-0. Not stopped playing, but they just. It was over. I didn't particularly think Colorado

played that well against the Leafs the night before. They're big guys. but I last night they were Who that my car was? Everywhere's McKinnon had a another level and that that Nelson kind of came alive. He's a for me, he's a guy who's in and out of the game a little bit, but he's Began saying that I'm playoff time just chip in some goals like you did last night. That's some high end skill, man. I'll tell you, as much as hard heavy hockey is the way to go come playoff time, those

guys, I don't know, man, they're dangerous. They're D move. That Malinsky skate, they skate. It's not just McCarr, like Gerard, they move. That D, you're right, it's not, they got a bunch of trees back there, it's like they move and they're in the play and they're up and like it just,

they had a game, put it that way and Ottawa was no good, but it was, I thought, jeez, that's a hell of a team. That's all I thought of. Yeah, and they are unique, you're right. Like they have an identity and it is, they are gonna skate you into the ground. It was, I thought, jeez, that's a hell of a team. That's all I thought of. Right. They have an identity and it is they are going to skate you into the ground. They move. Yeah, they're fast. That Matushkin is a, he's a horse.

He's a beast. He's a big boy and he can move and he can get shots off. We saw that in Toronto, man. In tight spaces, that guy can, he can make plays. And that's it. the McKinnon McCarr two-pack when they're on the ice and they're in the mood it it is impossible to stop it's basically impossible to stop and yeah Ottawa you know they had banked a lot of goodwill and a lot of points and they played great prior to it

but now they've lost two in a row and they got to get back on the saddle well they got to play better like that's it you know it got away from them in the third in Montreal and you thought okay? Well, there's a response But you know Colorado was pissed from the night before and and they they they came to play but Ottawa You know you can't just say hey We had a good week and like you can't go through these inconsistent stretches you there's teams chasing You know the Islanders won't go away right exactly, exactly. The Habs got a point last night. All you're doing is... Who does Ottawa have up next?

Jersey tomorrow, I believe. And Jersey will be pissed because they pissed one away last night, right? Jersey's a weird team, man. They got a weird mojo going right now. But yeah, Ottawa's on the road. They're at New Jersey, then at Buffalo, at Detroit. That's a big one. They're at New Jersey, then at Buffalo, at Detroit. That's a big one. And then Columbus is a big one, too. Their schedule, like we did it, you control your own destiny because you're playing against teams that are chasing you or you're chasing them.

So it's like you got to win games. That's it. And I think their probability is still decent, but they got to play that. Yeah, it's still high and they've earned that. But you're right, they play Columbus three times Yeah, and I'm spot. Yeah, so they're you know, it really is gonna be up to Ottawa You put yourself in this spot with that many only so many games to go. You just got to close You got to get to a certain number. You got to pick up some points and it'll be fine Pierre Lebrun who was down at the GM meetings earlier this week

We'll join us in about 15 minutes dear hazy be at at 630. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN+. Mail It In Friday is brought to you by Boston Pizza, Canada's favorite sports bar. Enjoy $15 lunch at BP where you get an entree, a side and a drink and you'll get it all in 20 minutes or less. A fast lunch doesn't have to be fast food. See you for a $15 fast lunch at your local Boston pizza. All right, overdrive continues. Aaron Rodgers was down in Pittsburgh meeting with Mike Tomlin and the crew today.

Uh-oh. Yeah, because the Vikings have said thanks but no thanks. And I think that's what that was all about. I think he was waiting for the Vikings to come calling and Kevin O'Connell and company said, no, we're in the business of JJ McCarthy we're in the JJ McCarthy business Aaron so you're not going to be a part of this. I think that's risky too man I don't know why like I said that like Donald was unbelievable

last year they kind of had some kind of chance but he floundered the last game of the season and in the playoffs but that kids never played never played was not like an all-world and American injured injured in a bad injury And I do think it's a gamble. We'll see what he's got But Rogers I guess down there is down there in Pittsburgh and he's being wined and dined and I don't know what he's slow playing This for Russell Wilson probably wants to snap because he's waiting for an answer on where he's gonna go and where he's gonna play but we'll get more into this into the next hour because it does feel like the Steelers and like that's a legacy franchise man and that's a franchise that expects to win expect

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