OverDrive - OverDrive - March 21st, 2025 - Hour 3
Episode Date: March 21, 2025Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 3 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun joins to discuss Connor McDavid and Leon Draisaitl's injury timeline with the Oilers, the NH...L general managers meetings outcome and the possible expansion in the NHL. The guys give their best advice in the latest edition of Dear Hayesy-B and Bryan hands out his FanDuel Best Bets.
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You've got March Madness continuing.
Duke just laid a beating on a 16 seed today, 93-49.
But there were a couple of close games earlier today.
Alabama was dicey at one point.
That's a two seed that ended up kind of running away with it.
But nothing too major.
Did you see the dude that's becoming famous for like walking his team out? Yeah. seed that ended up kind of running away with it but nothing too major.
Did you see the dude that's becoming famous for like walking his team out?
Yeah, you see that every year like there's some type of cults kind of, I shouldn't say
cult, but like some sort of like unique story with a unique school that takes on a life
of its own and I guess that could be it this year I guess we'll see.
But yeah, Pierre LeBrun coming up here in a moment, leaves Preds tomorrow. and I guess that could be it this year I guess we'll see but yeah yeah Peer
LeBrun coming up here in a moment leaves Preds tomorrow I guess this expansion in
the NHL is all of a sudden really starting to pick up because go for it
Houston's getting a team Atlanta is gonna get a team I think Kevin Weeks was
saying last night like maybe it'll go to 36 and I believe the PA has been told
like it's coming just a matter
of time and they're gonna make a lot of money and it's just gonna water down the league but they're
gonna add games and there's gonna be more tournaments and Houston can have like the city's massive
more tournaments what do you what do you well I mean like the four nations face off in the World
Cup and everything like every two years that that's gonna be You know that's NHL revenue right and owners are gonna make money and the PA is gonna make money
and there's gonna be more players than ever that are employed and the caps going up and
Yeah, I think if you're a fan
You know, let's say you're a Leaf fan. You're looking at this saying, okay
There's two more teams that you've got to compete with now for the Stanley Cup
They haven't won in if If they're going to have that many teams, don't you have to go like a National League
American League type format where you just periodically pop in and play a team?
I don't know.
That's a good question.
I mean, this could be aligned with the idea of them adding games in the regular season
though too, right?
That if you're going to add a couple of games, you add a couple of teams.
I don't, I'm not sure how they're going to handle that because you want to see every player in the
league come through town.
Look how many games there are.
Look how many back to backs there are.
It's like a team gets a breather for two or three days and then it's three and four nights.
Leafs are a prime example.
Couple days off, then Tuesday, Wednesday, then Saturday.
It's like, I find the schedule to be insane.
Well, the four nations face off caused that because you shut the league down for three weeks or whatever it was.
How long? It wasn't that long.
It was over the course of two weekends, though.
So, okay, let's call it two and a half weeks.
So, the schedule is just compressed and then you're going to have Olympics next year and
as you mentioned you're going to have other tournaments and stuff.
It is.
It's too many games and what happens is you get nights that are just mailed in because
the guys have no energy.
How many times we could actually run a clip of any, pick a coach in any team, where it's
like, yeah, my team didn't have
no energy tonight no nothing travel caught up to them schedule you name it
and it's more often than you think it's not the same team obviously but it's
just throughout the league it's like we talked about scheduled losses just based
on travel and all of that nonsense and it's not gonna get easier if they're
looking at adding more teams and more games somehow.
More travel exactly.
More travel.
You're going to Atlanta, you're going to Houston.
It's frustrating, I'll tell you that.
And I don't know what the next two would be.
Like those two, it's almost as if it's like a formality now.
The league has leaked it out that, hey brace for it, it's happening. It's Houston and Atlanta. Atlanta for a third time again is just a complete
joke.
Dude, I think it's a joke.
It's so embarrassing.
I will go back.
Quebec City sitting there and you're going to go to another city that had four people
there the second time around and you're going back. Really?
It's a complete joke and I know their argument is well there's a different building and it'll be different ownership. I don't care. It's the same people. It's a complete joke. And I know their argument is, well, there's a different building and
it'll be different ownership. I don't care. It's the same people. It's the same audience
that you're trying to cultivate and nobody in Atlanta cared either time.
I do think they're going to be successful this time.
How, Noodles? You explain to me how they'll be successful.
Ask Pierre how it's going to happen. Tell him to tell us how Atlanta times three is going to be how the b successful as pierre how it's gonna happen tell you how i got all that stuff tell us how
that man that i was three let's see if you're in ike appears
doesn't represent the league here so right here and he gives opinion maybe
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do you believe it later for the third time is gonna somehow pop off and be a
great success if so howl i think i think if you were president and the
government's from again when they were the jimmy dropped out you will attack
that i'm not exactly the same page of the legal back
okay we're not going to work on a few things but yeah
uh... like that one of those things
uh... we had that you know you've got a lot of you know we've been talking about I've had four fun, a few things, but yeah, like to have fun in those things.
What are you guys asking about?
Houston, Atlanta?
Yeah, I mean, listen, we've been talking about it
for years now and now the name of Dan Freakin
came out yesterday for Emily Kaplan,
Bill Daly confirmed that to me as well last night,
that he's a strong option to be an owner in Houston,
but Daly also reiterated, and I guess the league
keeps adding this and no one really wants to hear this part and I get why, but also reiterated that I guess the league keeps adding this and no one really
wants to hear this part and I get why but he reiterated that the league is not yet in a place
where they're ready to expand. I feel like I have to add that because we tend to get ahead of
ourselves but I do think it's happening and I think the way it's going to happen and this is
just me reading between the lines is that there's a few important things that have to happen before the next expansion. One is the next CBA. So that's,
you know, talks are starting in early April. The league and the PA are sending out positive
vibes they want to get an extension done. So let's say they do that without going off
the rails. So CBA extension is huge. Then the next big one, and this is where it gets
interesting as far as the cart and the
horse, what is Gary Bettman's future?
Which I asked him about Wednesday, you may have heard the exchange on that one.
He said he was going to outlast me.
But a lot of people wondering where is the succession plan?
Is it tied to the new CBA or is it tied to one more round of expansion before perhaps
there's a succession plan for
the commissioner all to be determined?
We don't know that for sure.
But I guess that's what I'm saying is I think the next round of expansion certainly at the
very least has to wait for a new CBA and then it's a question of where does it tie in with
Gary Babbitt's future.
Okay, but Atlanta in particular for a third time, if it happens happens how could they possibly explain that to people?
Yeah, I mean look tonight, you know, I've been there the last time they had a team I actually covered the altar game there
You know, I get why and you know
Listen, if you really want to have fun, you know that the league is dying to go back to Phoenix, right?
I mean you guys know that I mean that's another one. They can't wait. And the same reason they want to go back to Atlanta one day, the same reason they want
to go back to Phoenix is that they are a large, large major US market that they believe could
finally work if the team had won properly. I think we can all agree the Phoenix thing was a complete
disaster almost from start to finish. They never built the rink in the right place, shaky ownership throughout
but if you ever have a good owner and build a rink in Scottsdale or Phoenix I
actually believe for sure it'll work in Phoenix myself. I bet you if MJ was here
you'd say the same thing I haven't played there but they never had that kind of
you know solid footing and I guess that's where the
league feels the same way about Atlanta I'm not ready to say that I have no
proof of that I not spend that much time in my life in Atlanta so but that's why
and you know the other thing is you'll hear the league say this and you take it
for how you guys want guys but NHL is a unique league compared to the other big
three right we have seven Canadian teams so the US footprint NHL is a unique league compared to the other big three, right? We have seven
Canadian teams. So the US footprint, NHL-wise, is not as spread out as the
NBA and the NFL and MLB. The NHL is in 25 US markets compared to the other
league. So the idea of more expansion to places like Atlanta or Houston or back
to Phoenix is pretty
obvious.
Those are big markets and they're not there and they want to keep spreading their brand.
So Pierre, you were down at the meetings, you met with Betman, you obviously got to
pick a lot of people's brains.
Did anything productive get accomplished down there as far as what you think?
Okay, maybe some tweaks here, some changes or some thought processes moving forward that
you believe will be implemented as early as next season?
Yeah, well, listen, in the here and now, and we had another big one last night in Long
Island with the goalie at appearance, Patrick Watt, decided to challenge it and he was wrong.
I got to say, I'm a bit of a cynic, so I don't know if you guys listened to our hits
this week from there, but they brought the media in after the GM meetings after day one
and let us hear a version of the same presentation that GM's got on goalie interference coach's
challenge.
I don't know, maybe I just spent around too long but you know the idea is that there's a consistency
there and a clear criteria and I get it it was actually part of it was an
education for a lot of us to remember you know are you in the blue crease? How
did you get in the blue crease? Are you allowing the goalie to reset and play a
position? I get it that's a very clear criteria that the situation room and
Sean was looking at. I'm here to tell you though that I'm not totally buying the kind of unanimity that the league was
telling us that they got in all their breakout groups, so GMs on 54 different goalie reviews,
goalie and appearance reviews. I just, and I'm not embarrassed to say I shared as much
when I was with the league because, the league, because I just
think we're in for some controversies again with this come playoff time. You know, I covered that
Colorado Dallas Playoffs series last year and it didn't become as big a story as it could have
because Dallas ended up winning anyways to win the series in Game 6, but To this day, it's probably the angriest I've ever seen Jim Mill
When they disallowed that goal at overtime
And it was really a 50-50 call for sure
And I'm telling you it's still to me a pretty gray area
even with the criteria explained I just explained it but
to me if there's a big takeaway from this week is that the league was really trying to
Stress and it did a good job explaining it again. I'll get me wrong
They brought it through all the steps, but I still think we're headed for some moments here from playoff time
Here was there any GM's that avoided white dress pants down there and the fear the end of the season coming up
Anybody a little nervous about the future with poor
seasons?
Oh, good question, Oda. I didn't even think of that. I mean, yeah, I didn't see any white
pants. I'm trying to think here.
Oh, I know.
There were definitely some tee times. There were definitely some tee times. The meetings
ended at noon every day.
Shocking. Shocking, shocking.
Not for me sadly.
Yeah, I mean listen, I think that if there's still a buzz that I heard from a lot of the
managers, it's just how many trades went down before the deadline this year.
We've kind of been let down by the deadline the last number of years and I think there was still a buzz among the managers is that
they surprised themselves with how active it was and how medieval it was
and maybe a lot of it was forced by the Niko Rampen situation which is perhaps a
one-off. I mean I don't know we're gonna see a guy with a stature traded twice in
six weeks midseason but that trade itself and I had a chance to catch up with
Eric Tulsky there at the gym meetings but that's still being talked about like I
think we're still talk about talk about that in a year or two about how it all
went down and and where you ended up. With Pierre LeBrun our TSN hockey
insider what are you hearing on the status of Connor McDavid and Leon
Drysaddle moving forward? Yeah I checked into that in a lot of yards here guys.
You know, I don't think within the organization
they think it's anything too serious,
but I also don't think we'll see them, you know,
in the very near future either.
I think they're gonna be super cautious
with each superstar given that, you know,
they're not fighting for their playoffs lives
and you know, as there's several lining,
if there is at all, is that they actually rest these two war quarters before the playoffs.
But, you know, you're always worried, I think, when two of the best three or four players in
the world are injured, you know, this late in the year. But again, my sense today from the
organization was that they're just being cautious and it's not serious.
You know, if I had to guess, I think McDavid's out at least a week and then we'll see and
then Dry Settle maybe a week or two.
But I think everyone involved expects both to play games for the end of the regular season
and be ready for the playoffs, which is probably all that matters at this point.
Yeah, that's what's important. but we were talking about yesterday Pierre that like
dry settles in a heart race and an Art Ross race and if he's gonna miss two weeks that may cost him
that hardware like he may not win the heart trophy if he misses you know eight games down
the stretch or something like that. You know what trophy Leon cares about? I understand that, but it's not, you know,
this isn't a fan vote.
This is the hard trophy.
It's a pretty significant one too.
Yeah, no, I mean, that's accurate.
And the reason it might cost them
is just because it's so close.
I mean, you know, if McKinnon's having an unreal year,
Connor Hellebuck, you know,
if the Connects make the playoffs,
where do you have Quinn Hughes battling through everything?
I think there's lots of different cases to be made,
and maybe missing two or three weeks
could be the difference, for sure.
I'm just saying, though, that I bet you
that's not really front of mind for him right now,
given how close they got last year to winning it all.
Given how close they got last year to winning it all. Yeah, I agree.
I mean, it is what it is, but unfortunately, he can't control that.
And I would think McKinnon probably has a slight edge anyways right now.
Halibuck should deserve a lot of love.
I don't want to overlook the goaltender.
But you're right, Dry Subtle has to focus on what's important to them.
You know you look at these playoff races Pierre, I can't you know it seems like it's daily
out west I mean where all of a sudden St. Louis is there.
I mean did we.
They're in the spot right now in the second wild card.
Is that the team or is it Vancouver is it Calgary who came back against Jersey like this might
be flat out down to the last day of the season and I know the league will be fired up about
this but you have to think there's some owners and the fan bases will be pissed to say you
know we've been talking about this 16 teams making the playoffs 32 teams in the league
and it's been like that for a hundred years and Gary is so bullish on not expanding it.
Yeah, and I asked that man again about whether or not
he considered changing the playoff format.
I knew what the answer would be,
but within that answer, he added a little kicker,
and we have our own version of a play-in
with these races on both sides,
so he understands what's being written
and commented for sure.
He knows what you guys are saying on Over sides. So he understands what's being written and commented for sure. He knows what you guys are saying on Overdrive. And he's, listen, he happens to be right this year. The races on
each side are phenomenal right now to get in for, you know, especially for eighth spot and on both
sides. You know, the blues, the kicker for me on the blues is that, you know, we know for a fact
that a month out from the trade deadline, Doug Armstrong was telling teams, hey, you know, we know for a fact that a month out from the trade deadline, Doug Armstrong was telling teams, hey, you know, you may call, stop my core guys, I'll listen.
And then I kind of wondered sometimes when that happens, because you hear it from other
teams, does he want that out there just to wake up his team? Like, did he maybe never
have any intention to trick any of those guys that now they've found, you know, they've
rallied and they found they're playing their best hockey
of the year.
I love that stuff, looking back versus I was hard to know the truth.
But that was a team a month from the deadline that was like, I'll take the playoffs for
real for us.
Whew, I mean here they are.
And some of it is that Calgary and Vancouver backed up a bit.
No one's running away with it, but still it's pretty compelling stuff.
And, you know, I always look at it this way, which team would scare you the most
if you're a top seed, right?
Um, and the teams that I always would hate playing if I'm a top seed is the
teams that feel like they've already won the Stanley cup just by making the
playoffs and like, for example, if Montreal hangs in there, don't know if they will they have the really tough schedule here in
the next couple weeks but if the Habs get in and that's the prize for
Washington I don't know man like I obviously I'm gonna pick Washington but
I'm just telling you that would be a Habs team going on some kind of mojo
where it's like we've already won like nothing we do now could change the
script as far as our expectations and I just if I'm a number one see that's
over exceeded like Washington that's an unsettling feeling for me. Pierre we were
talking about Matthew Knizan about how he's come into his own this season it's
been fantastic for the player of the team. How would you guess that his next contract goes?
Like what would you predict happens here?
Oh boy. He's kind of in the waiting line. That's part of the problem with your Matthew
Nides is that you're not on the on deck circle. I don't think.
Should he be?
Well, I mean, he's an important contract,
but listen, until the Leeds have an answer on Mitch Marner,
it's really hard to start committing major dollars elsewhere.
And you know, at the end of the day, Matthew Nyes is RFA,
so it's not like you're concerned
about him going anywhere either,
so time is on your side there.
But I just think that before you know what you want to do there, you've got to answer the market question for sure in my mind, but, um, you know, what
I love about knives is that, um, I feel like every couple months he's, he's
found another level in this game.
Like it's a nice gradual progress.
And who this guy's ceiling can be. And with
not a lot of regression, it's been a real steady climb for this guy since he's come
into the league. And I don't know, you know, a lot of players like to say that, but not
a lot of them can. I really like Matthew Nives.
Well, it's interesting, the pecking order, you referenced that he's not on deck and that
would be Marner, but I would put guys ahead of two bars
from the maple yes all my
dot not even a crash not even a question like sorry like this is working
get sticky where you get let's say morner takes it up until june thirtieth
and you haven't figured it out yet you're gonna speak with knives and you
have the right to do that he's an rf a like you said you get a read on where his
head is that no lease will be prepared if they haven't done it already so they may
have a pretty good read on what those numbers are going to be but if I'm
waiting on Marner I'm I and knives I'm not signing John Tavares before I signed
both those guys if that's the plan like if the plan is full commitment to Marner
and then obviously we got to figure out knives. Tavares is third which that could get uncomfortable. If it's July 5th and you're telling John, we haven't figured
this out yet man. Moving chairs here, you may want to jump on one if we're not calling
you back quick enough.
Yeah, and when I say you got to figure out Marner, it doesn't necessarily mean that it
has to wait until the actual Marner situation is totally decided. My point is you need to get a pretty strong read on
it after the season. So you could sign Knives before the final shoe is dropped on Marner,
but you won't really know where that is until after the season is what I'm saying. So there's
lots of times between the end of their season and July 1st. To figure that out, I'm not worried about the night situation at all,
but you know, on Tavares, you know, he's wanted really,
as Agent Pat Brisson has not been shy to tell the least,
really from the start of the season and the last fall,
this past fall, that they've been ready to extend.
I mean, John Tavares loves it here, doesn't want to go anywhere,
and they've been open to that, but the least they've had to say,
hey, you know, that's just, it can't be something we do right now right and with all due respect
so yeah we'll see where that goes and and I think that's okay if you're the Leafs because
I think the Leafs have been too worried over the years to sometimes get some of these things done
you know what this is a big playoff again for this team and this core. I thought, let's see what happens and then and then react to that. I'm
fine with that if I were running the Leafs. Yeah for sure. All right, Pierre, we'll
leave it there. Enjoy your weekend. We'll do it again soon.
Right on, right on. See you boys. There's Pierre Lebron joining us here on Overdrive
and again you look at Tavares. He had 1,100 points in his career last night and he's 29 goals that that matches the
number he had last year so he's gonna beat his number from a year ago you know
a few years ago he had 27 goals he's already beat that he's 34 will be 35 to
start next year but you know he may have 33 goals and
70 something points and like that's a really really quality season like he said a really
Consistent, you know sees he had a great start that that helped right he got off to a good start scored a lot of goals early
but
Yeah, I mean it is the longevity has been great, but he makes 11 million dollars, too a lot of goals early.
The longevity has been great, but he makes $11 million too.
That's the thing, you're paying him for production.
Now he's had production through seven years though.
That's the impressive thing.
Absolutely.
He has not had a dip at any point in terms of producing.
I wasn't being hard on him.
He makes a lot
of money, but he's earned it and he's come to play and been a complete pro for full seven
years. Comes back to the same thing though, guys. They gave him 70 something million dollars.
He's been a productive guy. Yeah. But with him, they won one playoff round in all of
it. One. Yeah. I know. That to me is the king daddy topper you could talk about production and goals and
But all these players together have won one playoff round
So the idea of wanting to bring the band back together if it happens again this year
Would be absolute lunacy
Yeah, absolute lunacy. There's no arguing against that now
They may choose lunacy based on the way that the lease of operated for a long time i think that's
probably the favor
like if we're taking odds
is that they'll just bring the band back in
tweak a few things and
you know circle back and see what happens
you know to ross's pier said has been pretty forthright like he wants to stay
in You know Tavares as Pierre said has been pretty forthright like he wants to stay and we'll see what comes of that
So they don't get by one round again and win multiple rounds. You would think that they were gonna bring back the band again
Under what basis they've already made it clear. They're begging Marner to negotiate
Begging him
Like so they want to do they want to sign him before they even play a playoff game
like so they want to do they want to sign him before they even play a playoff game so they're laying it out on the their cards on the tape now maybe their
mind will change in a month maybe but I'm not sure well I mean I get the
impression the Leafs just want to be in the Mitch Marner business forever and
what happens in the playoffs is completely irrelevant that's what it
feels like which I mean if you want to do that Brian, I think that they would be fine with it but
John Tavares is a different animal.
He might be 35 years old.
He's 35 years old and there will be a point where you know it's like hot potato at some
point you get caught with it.
You'll get burnt.
You'll burn your hand.
He might be looking at yeah he might be have Stephen Stamco's thought process where he's At some point you get caught with it, you'll burn your hand. You don't want to be on the tab.
He might be looking at, yeah, he might have Stephen Stamkos thought process where he's
like, guys are still getting paid and Stephen Stamkos had a number.
He's like, I want to put 32 million bucks in my pants.
Maybe John Tavares is thinking that.
And I would say you're going to have to do it somewhere else.
I think that that should be the case.
Yeah, I think the Leafs at some point have got to say listen because again
Nice you're gonna have to pay you got to pay other guys
But yeah, I mean if he ends up with 30
Close to 35 goals and 70 points like that's a really good
It's a good season really good season like that. That's gonna someone will pay him
Somewhere that's right. You will but let's see what they do in the playoffs.
Can they get to a conference final?
Can they get to a cup final?
That should be the case.
It should have been the case years ago, but it wasn't years ago.
So they have to prove me wrong.
They will deviate from this plan.
Here's something though that I think should be on the table. Regardless of what they do,
say they make the cup final, does that mean okay you just got to bring them
back? Like I just, I'm of the, you're always trying to make your team better
and as a business, you know, as the manager or in the business of hockey,
you can't let emotions overrun this.
We've seen mistakes.
Give me an example.
Mike Richards.
Dean Lombardi signed Mike Richards,
because Mike Richards helped him win two cups.
Now, they ended up getting out of the contract,
or at least there was some, you know,
I think he got bought out,
but you know, he had some personal problems
and all of that type of stuff.
But you get, you fall in love with your players because you either had success or not
success with them I I feel like their contracts I'm sorry John Tavares's
contract shouldn't be tied to if they have success or not you're trying to
ice the best team moving forward for the best economic value and if he doesn't
fit that then you have to go
love you you know but it didn't we're we're moving on to the future it's
another team that wants to pony up the money I just mentioned Stephen Stamkos
it wasn't Tampa that wanted to give him 32 million it was the Nashville
Predators the Ottawa Senators wanted to give Claude Giroud three times six not
the Philadelphia Flyers.
A lot of times in that scenario, regardless of the success that's been had in the past,
it's a different team that wants to pony up and give you the money that you want.
It's a great point and that's what I'm saying is I don't believe they should be.
Brian, you're saying they probably are because what we've seen in the past.
Yes, but I'm saying I don't think they should be.
I don't think they go, well, if they have a bunch of success,
then it just has to be.
I think you're absolutely right.
I think it's like, what is the best team
that you can put together for next season?
And if it involves Sam Bennett or involves other players,
then it's like-
Even if they win a cup, you're supposed to do that
as the manager
You're not it's not a lifetime achievement award because you did something work at how Vegas is switch things up exactly
Well, it's Florida's one and told Montour. Sorry. We're not gonna have the money for you. Thanks for everything
See you later, but that's you know and Montour went and got paid
Yeah, good on him, but there there is it there is, it just shouldn't be tied together.
You get the contract for the future, not the past. That's literally the nature of the negotiation.
You're right. That doesn't mean you can't make sense of it. Maybe if it's a one-year
deal or something like that. But if there's a term on a 35-year-old, whoever it is, that's
a dangerous game. That can be a dangerous game.
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Dear Hazy B, I recently had my bachelor party in Vegas
and found out that my father-in-law
enjoys having a night on the town.
There was an incident at an establishment
and the cops were involved
and I'm worried that there could be a bigger problem moving forward with the incident.
The group was sworn to secrecy but I have concerns that I may get off to the wrong foot
with my soon to be wife for not telling her what happened to her father. Do I bring this
up to her or keep our word with the guys?
Kyle in Toronto
Word with the guys let me be clear here word with the guys
because I
Don't know if your dude wife wants to know about that type of behavior anyway That's's the thing exactly like she... Yeah but dude what happens if something goes down and she says hey Kyle
you could have gave me a heads up about this we're supposed to start our life
together and you're not being upfront. I know. That this guy was doing whatever he
was doing in the champagne. I don't know what he was doing. Well who knows but in
the cops being involved like you may have a scenario where can he cross the border again in the future I mean it could get very
sticky and I understand that that's where you start to overthink of it and overanalyze it.
What if what if you're trusting him not to say something and he brings it up you know is like
I gotta come clean here I don't know I'm sure Kyle told told you do you know he has enough to sky fires that out of the family dinner well not
immediately you know i would run to my car never see anyone again in the room i
think it's immediate divorce from the whole crew
the whole family
everyone's out if he sewers you like that after you took one for the team
but i think there's a
there's kind of a code here where
this isn't you know you're you're you're keeping somewhat of a secret but there's a there's kind of a code here where this isn't you know, you're you're
you're keeping somewhat of a secret but it's not it's for the right reason and it's not something
that I think your wife or fiance would would take personally that you didn't tell her about that
personally. I don't I don't know I can't get into her mind, I can't think like that, but I think you just
got to go down with the ship here and hold the front, hold the fort, and just you can't
say anything.
If it ever comes out, then you got to be quick on your toes.
That's the part of marriage, man, be quick on your toes.
This story is not yours to tell.
Exactly, it's not yours.
It's his, right?
Like that's the thing.
You were there.
I know, but Noodles, you understand that he could be presented
with a scenario where his new brand new wife says you were with my father at
this place and you didn't give me any kind of inclination that this went down
I think the the explanation here and we, it's hard because we need a little
bit more information because what was the type of business that this guy, because if
he... Dude, it's Vegas and the word establishment in Vegas, I know, I probably know exactly
what this guy was up to. I'm thinking, I'm trying to go on the lighter side, the conservative side is like,
he punched somebody in a strip bar. It's not jaywalking.
No, I know, but if he gets in a dust up in a bar, and it's embarrassing and he doesn't
want it and he ends up in the drunk tank for the night, I'm sure he'd prefer that people
didn't know that if there's no harm no foul type of thing but but where
you're headed the path which is probably what happened I still think it's his story to tell
I agree I feel like it's just okay now are you guilt by association going you were right
there man you you bailed him out you're the one who got him out of the clinker good soldier
though right then yeah I mean you stepped up and you're there you're you're there happy. Oh, you're you're a foxhole guy
I think that's worth a lot. Who do you want to be a foxhole guy with though? You're lunatic father-in-law or your future?
Think of the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. That's what I think it like
That's what if honest here thinking. There might be something that
presents it in the future too. Here's where I'm going. You and your wife are talking,
you're on a vacation or something and she goes, my dad used to be a lunatic. Maybe it's
happened before. Right. Icebreaker. So then you go, I've like, dad got, you know, got in it.
So then you're going, you know, I got to be honest, like there was an incident, but I
didn't want to tell you, you know, like, like that type of stuff, there might be a future.
I get it.
Honesty is always like, the worst thing that happens, noodles, is if he, the father-in-law
comes clean without anybody else knowing, then he screws everyone.
I'll give you another one that is worse for this guy.
He tells his wife goes don't say anything she gives you the wink wink I'm not saying
anything she calls up her mom immediately and goes you're not going to believe what
he did.
What dad did again.
And guess what then you hear wheels screeching outside your door because he's coming for
you and he's like yeah I you weren't supposed to say anything and then you're done. Then you're in his bad books forever. You're never getting out of
it. Christmas dinner, Thanksgiving, like you are never getting out of it. You could be
in his great books for many years because you have this, you know, shared secret. There's
a bond there. This guy did something that, you know, put him in a bad place. It's a slippery slope because what he's asking you to do technically is to not lie but untruth. Yeah, just didn't bring it up.
Didn't bring it up. Oh, I forgot to tell you. How was the trip? It was great. Fine, no problem.
Everyone was always on their best behavior. Buddy, Johnny Jermaine
weighed in and said you can't say anything. What if you cause a
divorce for your own in-laws? exactly because that could happen like you know there's a very good chance your
wife could be like what I'm getting to the bottom of this myself and then it's
like you know and again if we're talking about hey you got arrested because there
was you know someone at the bar asked him if he was here staying for the night
and you're like oh I just anyway This isn't good. I just...
Anyway, moving on.
What else do we have?
Moving on, dear Hazy B, I go golfing with one of my closest friend and he's convinced
the only way he plays well if he gets absolutely hammered.
His wife is sending me texts saying that he'll need to avoid this and can't keep these shenanigans
up every time he hits the course.
How do I handle this conundrum?
Daryl and Whitby.
Your name's Daryl as if you're not partaking.
Yeah.
I don't even know how to answer these ones anymore.
Like, really?
A guy who can't just go out and play golf?
Like my arm's like...
Dude, I know guys that...
I get it.
They want to have a good time or are going to have a good time and that's fine, but there's also a limit on it. They want to have a good time or going to have a good time and that's fine,
but there's also a limit on it. There's an ability to find your way home. My stance would
be you go out there, you want to have a good time, go ahead. But also you're there to play
golf and you're keeping score. You're playing during the day and it's not a nighttime sport like that that's what I don't like I get it you think that's do you think
that kind of is a deterrent for people there's really is that my thing there's
people like to get after it at 740 a.m. I've seen it I know it's I get it but
and again if you're at a tournament or something fine, you know, like that's what it is or you're on a road trip or whatever
but a
Saturday 9 10 a.m. T time and you you can't make it through that without I
Would say you just tell your buddy like it's not part number. Yeah, just enough because it's causing problems for everybody
This one is personal opinion.
Dear Hazy B, I want you guys to think of your best option for what you would do.
Getting way out in front of a Leafs road trip for next season.
Nashville's high on the list, but is it the right call?
Need some help.
Thanks, guys.
Adam and Vaughn.
Ooh.
You know where I...
You go first. Your best Maple Leaf road trip that you would send and you can't just say Nashville. It's got to be hazy
I know you like Florida. Maybe it would be Florida for you. Yeah noodles
I'll let you go because I feel like I know what your answer is gonna be well
Yeah, okay, so Nashville, but here's why I would do Nashville
Okay, noodles you have to consider that maybe this guy doesn't like balleting up at Tootsies
and getting creamed all day.
I understand that.
But maybe you're a football fan and there's a game that weekend.
Yes.
And you do, like again, schedule permitting and all of that.
It turns into a sports weekend.
But yes, there is entertainment, Tootsies and all of that.
But keep in mind, Nashville has now become a lot like Vegas.
There's something for everybody.
It's not just country music and cowboy boots.
There is great restaurants.
There is history.
There are so many things.
Now you've got an NFL team.
Now you're gonna watch the Leafs on a road trip
in an unbelievable building.
That building rocks and does well.
So that's why I'm saying Nashville because I think you can build into a weekend entertainment
that goes with the game.
It's kind of like a Vegas trip, but it's just a different setting.
It's Nashville.
My fear is you miss the boat because this was the year because it's a Saturday night.
Next year they might be there on a Tuesday or something and it's
just Saturday night would be a good one. Yeah like if if if you're flying in
Vegas and there are people from Toronto on their way there right now or they are
already there and it's go time tonight into tomorrow into the game. I've done
that the Friday night Saturday went to see Nashville play Winnipeg, I think
it was, on the Saturday night.
And I can tell you from my experience, I lasted about a period and a half, I'm like, I'm out
of here.
I'm going back to Broadway.
I don't want to be in a rick right now.
I go to hockey games all the time.
This was always my argument with Vegas.
If I'm in Vegas, I don't want to go to a hockey game.
I'm Canadian.
I've been to a million hockey games but I will say Vegas as much as I doubted it for a long
long time it is a phenomenal experience to go to a game there yes Vegas is a
different beast and you can go on a Tuesday and you will find a great time
and you will find golf courses because it's nicer weather Nashville's's not as, it's not warm all year round, right?
You go to Nashville in November or December, it's like five degrees, man.
You're not bringing your golf clubs.
It's not patio weather.
So I would suggest if you're going to do a roadie, you mix in the golf clubs and warm
weather.
So it's Florida.
It might be Florida.
It could be a Florida, Tampa, two pack.
Like that's the dream scenario. Tampa Thursday, Florida Friday with golf
you know whatever surrounding it it's just a perfect setup. You can't. I don't
think you can go wrong with this. You fly into San Jose, watch your team play the
Sharks and drive down that Pacific Coast Highway. I don't know if you can rip off around at
Pebble Beach possibly and then you float into Santa Monica and go to Shutter's, have a martini.
Billy Joel might come in and play on the piano.
You're right.
That's the best roadie is the California roadie.
It's gotta be.
If you can do San Jose, LA, Anaheim and you're out and do a week
There's nothing like it wine country if you're a if you're a wine like ring and like you said bring the clubs mixing pebble
Like now you're talking the trip of a lifetime. That is I mean lifetime. I got short-sighted with Nashville
But I'm actually you can't go wrong man. It's a great trip
But I I do think you make a great point on the weather
Weather is the weather is very predictable in certain cities. Yeah, so if you're doing, California
The worst you can do it's 22 degrees. You know what I mean like it's t-shirt and shorts still
Maybe a little sweater a little especially
Yeah, and I'll tell you one other one money can do, if you can catch your team, whatever team
it is, if you can get the New York area and just set up shop in Manhattan around Christmas
time, like 10 days before Christmas, that is the winter version of the California...
It's just amazing going to hockey games and being in Manhattan at that time.
Yeah. That's true. That's one that we should reference.
Now we've given five, but you're going to the Garden, New York, Manhattan.
It is something else.
You can't beat New York.
There's something for everybody.
If you somehow you get Saturday Night Live tickets, you know what I mean?
You can go to the game.
There's just so many different things
to do in that New York area.
I agree, it's just not golfing.
Like if you and your boys, like I went on my 40th birthday, we did a boys trip to New
York and it was fantastic.
New York is so lights out.
We actually did a Mets or a Yankees game.
I think it was Yankee, we took the subway in and stuff is pretty cool.
Straight up to the Bronx.
That is a catch and release.
You get in and out of Yankee Stadium.
Twenty minutes after last pitch, no one is hanging around that stadium there.
Yeah, you're not hanging in the neighborhood just to visit. It's not yeah, it's not people watching around there
Yeah, so that would be it Nashville
Florida
California New York like those are your options
I think best options if you're going to the states and then you can never beat Montreal as well on a Saturday night clearly
But yeah, that's staying within the country
Alright, there we go, helping people.
Look at us, helping people.
And I think we achieved that today and I'm proud of us.
Yes.
I think we should be proud of ourselves.
Kyle, you keep quiet.
Keep quiet.
There's a code.
Don't screw everything up, Kyle.
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