OverDrive - OverDrive - March 25, 2024 - Hour 1

Episode Date: March 25, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jason Strudwick for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' matchup against the Flyers, Scott Laughton's performance with Toronto and the playoff race throughout the NHL. TSN Host James Duthie joins to discuss the Maple Leafs' potential playoff teams, the Presidents' Trophy significance and the Capitals' team rise in the standings.

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This Hour of Overdrive is powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. All right, here we go, Overdrive, off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your home smart speaker up on tsn4 brian hazel dog jeff o'neill strutty may or may not join us later this afternoon we'll see what happens some technical difficulties but we'll see if he's available or not i need you i need to get on the jiffy app here and get get the strut muffins going man get the uh get that oven maybe if you heat up the oven the scent of the strud muffins will

vaporize out to Edmonton and that'll wake up his signal i like it we'll see we'll see we're hoping that we can connect with strud because we got a lot to get to today we got a lot of big games in the nhl tonight right big night on tsn because the Leafs are on tsn tonight you got the sends you got the halves you got the fight for the president's trophy out in Winnipeg you see your boy Ovi getting off the plane or on the plane yesterday With subway and hot Cheetos Those were the bag that was the bag of chips of choice for Alex Ovechkin hot Cheetos and a 12 inch

Like any other kind of athlete, they're like, if I'm gonna get Subway, it's gonna be the six incher. I think he goes foot long, double meat. Double cheese. I'll bet you he hits every possible cheese item on that route all the way up to the cashier. When I was Monster Mode, double meat, cold cut combo, double cheese,

double hot pepper, and double mayo and mustard. And you just sit down and enjoy 15 minutes of pleasure. And you know it's, obviously it's gonna be white bread, but it might be seasoned just to add a little something. I'll go Italian cheddar. I would too, yeah. And the one thing that is just mandatory. This is like, this is full monster days. Bacon. Yes, absolutely. That's been sitting there all day just waiting. Yeah. And you just say, sir, do you mind just

tickling that up in the microwave for 30 seconds? Yeah, you need it. You need it. You need it desperately. There was you know what the move that put it over the top, not having flashbacks to back in the day when I would really get after it. There was a famous sub shop in North Toronto that if you grew up in the area, you know it. Famous, famous spots on Yonge Street. That where you got your chicken parms? No, not a chicken parm spot. This was pure subs, right? You get a bacon combo there There's a lot of different options there, but they would come over the top They had a they had a sub sauce that no one had a clue what was in it like it was like an Italian dressing

Yeah, it was an Italian dressing with probably something else Or just the sub sauce and then if you went in there late night, you'd ask for gravy and Come out they would go underneath and pull out a gravy, like a gravy boat and just start dousing yourself. Dude, I'm sorry, I'm not for that. Oh, I am so for it. You haven't lived, dude, you haven't lived. You get a bacon combo, like extra bacon, cheese,

some sauce with a gravy. Dude, only for a side of fry. No, I'm telling you, you need gravy in your life on a sub to put it over the top. I will bring one in for you and I guarantee, I know you're a new man now. Dude, I can't do it. I have to get you this. For 10 years we have talked about stuff we've eaten. Yes.

Never once has an assorted sub with a secret gravy been doused on top ever been mentioned. It's absolutely elite. It is so lethal. It's so amazing. I haven't had it in years. I gotta get there. A place called Belly Busters. I'll shout out to Belly's.

It's up on Yonge Street. There's one downtown now too. It's starting to, I think it's starting to spread. I think so it was only for the regulars that were like, yeah, you want to put the magic stuff on it. Yeah. It's one of those spots like you'd go in there late because it would be open until three o'clock in the weekend. So the bars would close. People would come storming in at like two 30. There'd be 15 people and they're yelling different suborders, yelling them at people and the guys behind that they just wanted to strangle people because you know what it's like you get someone coming in there 1920 that's

buckled it's yelling no I ordered this or no I wanted that and if you messed up an order you're stuck like once once it was like lettuce, tomatoes, onions absolutely once it got pushed down if you go oh no no I didn't want onions you're getting on you and you can shut your gap and you can pay for it you can have it you can enjoy it but yeah you go over the top around two forty a m just little gravy on that and it was absolutely lethal

you'd like getting it for you one time you go back in the time machine hot take time machine feed like he used to a couple years i'll I'll make you a deal one more ever a time Maybe one day we could tee it up at my golf course Yes And we can go to we can go to your spot and have this and then come into work Because I need to try it

I don't think I'll like it like I guarantee you the thought of it like a little bit of mustard a little your Irish man Gravy is mandatory you would have gravy with Irish like cereal walk into a place and say give me a potato and a beer and French some gravy though, you know great fries in a gravy is Absolutely electric, but you can't beat a frying gravy You can't beat that like especially if you're hungover. You're not feeling that well if you've had a big night again This is a lifestyle that is well beyond us. We've aged and I will say my brother and my dad, whenever we had like roast beef dinner, they would grab pieces of bread, put the roast beef on the bread and the gravy.

Oh yeah. And it was just, oh yeah, very much gravy. Can I put on this very liberal with a gravy? It is, it is so mandatory. I'm just not sold. I Doesn't go it doesn't go. All right. I'll show you man. I'm telling you I'm gonna sell you I'm gonna sell you on this and I'm telling you you can have great appreciation for it so panel night tonight least flyers and

This feels like a this is a must-win for the Leafs I hate to say that and I understand it's not literally a must-win but if you're chasing the division and it's it's been a to say that and I understand it's not literally a must win but if you're chasing the division and it's been a constant theme for weeks now and it's actually making things very engaging down the stretch with 12 games to go you have to beat Philly at home and they've played them very well for I think their 10 and 1 in the last 11 doogie was saying against Philly the the Flyers are leaking oil they traded pieces at the deadline. Yeah they're done. They're done they're over.

We just went through that on Saturday in Nashville, but you got Stoller's in net tonight. You're coming off a game where you're supposed to be pissed. John Tavara said it after the game. Let's see a pissed effort tonight. I just, I go back and forth with this daily haze where, I mean, I'm almost just for them winning the division to get a different opponent for something different other than Boston, other than Florida, other than Tampa.

But does it really mean anything if they got, let's say, the Ottawa? Like, I've just seen them with layups in the past where it's like, bubble, here you go, here's the Columbus Blue Jackets, there's a layup. What do they do? They lose it. Yeah. Here's the Montreal Blue Jackets. There's a layup. What do they do? They lose it. Yeah Here's the Montreal Canadians a team you win the Canadian division and here's a layup with the Montreal Canadian you get up against them And it's 3-1 and you piss it away. So I just I Don't know what winning the division will ultimately mean

I almost think doesn't guarantee you anything to exercise the demons and be like, you know What if we got to take down Tampa and then we got to take down Florida which there's no guarantee but that might be the way to play it like just we have to do this the hard way and that's maybe their only way out of it I don't know like what the hell kind of guaranteed is any division when give them nothing they're gonna give them some hungry opponent like the Sens or the Islanders and that would almost scare me even more well listen the psychology just end my thought my point with them is let's get playing your best hockey give yourself the best chance to win and if that ultimately means you

win the Atlantic Division great but I'm not day in and day out oh you lost that game all you're gonna lose it's gonna come down to the last couple game It might come down to their last little Florida swing where they got Florida twice more in Tampa once though. Yeah, they do Yeah, well, those are the three most significant games But I would say And they probably wouldn't admit this publicly I wonder if privately the players and the franchise look at this though as almost like a playoff round before the playoffs where you are playing for something that's important only Max Domi has come out and said they

don't care about that other guys have said on the record they do Jake McCabe has said they do other guys have said that they do this is something that by all accounts is a goal within that room it's not the equivalent of winning playoff rounds clearly they win the win the division, it doesn't, you're not putting a banner up, although they might. They might put a banner up. On Twitter, there'll be one. They probably would put up an Atlantic division banner,

but it's a scenario where you've got something that you're chasing, a goal in mind, before you get to the playoffs. For me, I think that actually would be beneficial, because for years you've had a scenario here with the Leafs where they haven't been playing for anything and it's just been about load management and maybe this guy scores 70 and could this guy hit a hundred points I think actually having a focused goal before you even get to the playoffs that is something that's different that

actually might spark them into a scenario where you reference the Islanders coming on hot the Habs coming on hot. You got to get hot to catch that. Like if you want to win the division, you got to be hot. They got 12 games left. You go six and six, you're going to be second or third seed. But if you can go 10 and two, you go nine and three, I think you kill two birds with one stone.

You get in and you're hot. You feel good about yourself. From a psychology standpoint, it's not going gonna change what I think you're talking about. Whoever they play, they still have to prove they can beat them. I don't care if they're playing the 85 Oilers or the San Jose Sharks this year. It doesn't, they have to prove they can do it.

They have to get up for it and they have to go out there and they have to spank a team. Ideally, maybe if you win in game seven, fine, but maybe finally put your foot down and say, we're for real and we're gonna do this. They will have to cross that bridge when they get to it. But I think the idea of them possibly having that mentality and that type of ambition and that type of drive beforehand

is something that it's a curve, it's something different. It's a different pathway into the playoffs. That's what I would be encouraging. That's what I would be encouraging. That's what I would be promoting. And I think... I see what you mean where if they actually do or are fortunate enough to spank a team in the first round, which is allowed, you could sweep a team. Would be a first. Oh yeah. And it's always game sevens and game sixes. It's always some kind of game seven or down to the... And let's say they did that and Florida and Tampa

beat the living hell out of each other. There's where the advantage will come in. Exactly. Okay. Exactly. You can talk me into that, but that's like perfect world type scenario and these guys always seem to make it like not the perfect world. Well, and that's where they would put them in a dogfight in a seven game series with

a team that limped in the playoffs. Right. And it would be like, this is not the way the script is supposed to be. Well, there's been a number of years where the Leafs are the only team in a game seven. Like that in 2013, I believe they were the only only team. I think it was the only series that went seven. I believe looked that up to me. But there have been a multiple times where

it's like everyone else is either through or gone home and it's the Leafs in the Bruins game seven or the Leafs in the Lightning game seven the Leafs in the Habs and it's always drawn out and again that may still be the case regardless of who they play come playoff time but I'd like to smoke a team and rest like the Montreal Canadiens up 3 three one smoke them four straight and rest and sit and then be ready for the opponent and send a message to the opponent. But the likelihood of that happening, that seems like an impossibility. Like that just

doesn't seem like it's in the cards. And especially if they're going to play a Tampa or a Florida in the first round, you're not going to sweep that team. Like I don't I don't see that being the case, but I do think the idea that they're chasing something here should mean something. And I think the psychology of the fan base is there was this concern that if they don't get it,

and this is another, it doesn't have to filter into the room. It probably won't, hopefully it won't. But the psychology I think of a lot of fans is if they don't end up in that one seed, let's say they stumble down the stretch and they end up in the three seed, it's almost like you've lost something before you even start the playoffs, which that will be triggering for a lot of fans. See that's where I

differ. I'm like it's the same same any scenario. I don't see it that way. I know they just they're either gonna pull off a miracle. Go do something different. Win a division for once. Okay do that. Go gonna pull out a miracle. Go do something different. Win a division for once. Okay, do that. Go do it. But you could also do something different and maybe you get Tampa in the first and you smoke them and then you know what you get Florida and you you smoke them like that's different too.

Like it's just something if you give me any of those scenarios that's different I'll take it. Yes. Because it just seems like it's a first round seven game series, it goes down to seven, you're going to lose two one. That is what- See, that is a cynical viewpoint that you're having. Dude, that's nightmare fuel.

That is nightmare fuel. Yeah. That is nightmare fuel. Winning the division and getting a team that just got in the playoffs, they're so pumped up because they're like, we got in the playoffs and it's seven games? Well, and it feels like it'll be auto on auto what it has a as a pretty good handle on that first wild card spot there in buffalo

tonight i have a lot of home games on terry of any of the phenomenal that's another thing as much as like tampon florida okay that those are fun in the built-in robberies but then i had a lot of go have a battle of florida yeah will have a battle of ontario you stay down in your state will stay in our province will meet the middle at right well as someone to teams of me the second round what's best for everyone it would be phenomenal theater it would be great great theater would be a blast for two weeks would be to be a lot of anxiety between here in ottawa tons of it to be a lot of the

fans in ottawa to be a few sense fans at scotia bank arena just be an incredible throwback yeah be a great way to play it out and you know ask for that second wild card. Harry Roberts dropped the puck in Toronto, Joe Neuendijk all of it. That's the play bring back the legends of the 90s and 2000s. Of course and have them walk out all of them have them all walk out and drop the puck. Who would represent that in Ottawa though because they never won. The guy on the bench Alfie. I guess Alfie but Alfie never won any of those series. You could get Chris Neil out there. Yeah, Wade Redd.

You want to bring out Patrick Lalim and have him drop the puck. I think he comes into Toronto. Like as harsh as that is, that's such a gutless comment. Dude, that is an ignorant comment. That's an ignorant comment, but you send Lalim an email saying, do you want to drop a puck at Scotiabank?

We'll give you a hundred grand. We'll pay you big, big money. We want you at Scotiabank Arena dropping the puck. That's the play. All right, we'll come back with Strudy. We're going to have James Duthie join us around the table ahead of the game tonight. We'll get into that call. Dude. Long Island, Patrick Waugh.

That's our cheat team. The Islanders are our cheat team and they got screwed last night okay just about I know pure angle start he got on the game sheet last night scored a beauty last night period in the way where pure angle looks like Jean Bellevue right now he is leading the way he's leading the charge Patrick was not happy with the city of Toronto I'm sure Struddy would love to hear that probably JD as well right like James in Ottawa guy he probably likes hearing that from Patrick Waugh so we'll get into that City of Toronto. I'm sure Struddy would love to hear that. Probably JD as well, right? Like James in Ottawa guy.

He probably likes hearing that from Patrick Waugh. So we'll get into that audio, get into that scene last night. Key up all the games tonight. Big one in Winnipeg with the Jets and the Capitals playing. Leafs Flyers tonight. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050N on TSN4.

Overdrive continues powered by FanDuel. Bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Brian Haseo, Doug Jeff O'Neil And there he is Jason Strudwick the late arrival whoo the late arrival guns and roses Stressful sorry boys without knowing it my my wife changed upgraded the internet yesterday, and she didn't tell me and so I go to plug hardwire my tie line. It's not working like I don't come on and it never came on I called her like hey, what's going on?

She's like, oh, I just changed the internet yesterday. You didn't think that's information I should know? For someone in my field doing what I do, you don't think I should know that. Yeah, so my head's rolling all over the boys in the back, or like, can you call this guy, call this guy? I'm like, I think it's on my end this time. And so my wife calmly came down and got sorted out Okay. Well, I guess thanks to her for stepping up right out the words a little bit late to the party But yeah, I guess percent just a text right like a text. Just a little message

Hey, just FYI things are changing around here. You might want to know that ready I got a question is reasonable If you and noodles were out late and you went and got a sandwich and the guy doing the sandwich said to you, you want me to throw a little gravy on that before you lock it up and take it and sit down to eat it? What would you say? Right. Because Hazy B told me that one of his signature moves when he was a moose is he had an agreement with the guy behind

the counter and he would put gravy on his sub and it was like a sign of respect. That's right. Only the true monsters and regulars got it. Would you ever sign off on that? I thought it was outrageous. Yeah. You know what? My first concern is messiness.

That's spilling onto my shirt. Do you think that anybody in this state of mind would concern themselves with messiness? It's 2.30 in the morning, Strud. I'm not too concerned about the dry cleaning bill of the future. No, I wouldn't do it. I'm not a gravy guy. Not on sandwiches. I love it on turkey, those types of items.

Unless it's a beef dip. It's a beef dip I'm taking, but I'm not going directly on it that's a nightmare to keep clean hazy yeah you guys are lost man I'm disappointed in both of you I am I'm disappointed in both of you I had you pegged though as a gravy guy dude I told you all of these conversations we've had over the last 10 years yeah you can't drop that on me on air I. I've never heard anything like it. It's a thing, it's a part of my past, right? Like it's deep, deep into the- I know, but we've shared everything.

Dude, we know stuff about each other. That is insane, but you've never dropped the gravy on me. All right, I'm gonna enlighten you. One of these days, Dothio being here momentarily. JD's too healthy, he probably would, he would be against it. But anyway, good to see a strut. We got a lot going on tonight.

I'm sure, I want to play this Patrick Waugh clip. We'll get to Duthie in a moment. You guys can give your commentaries on, you know, the call last night. Columbus ends up winning. And it was a massive game between Columbus, the Islanders, like all these points on the line. We're talking about the Leafs and the Oilers

and chasing home ice and winning a division. There are like seven or eight teams in this league fighting for their lives, like literally to get in. And the Islanders are at the forefront of this. And last night with what, 10 seconds to go, there's a shot from the point, Paul Mary runs into the goalie and it's immediately waved off,

which is important to point out. This wasn't overturned by the guys in Toronto. This was actually upheld. The ref immediately waved it off, goalie interference. They end up going to review. The call stands. Which is insane, man. I agree.

I hate that we talk about this. I hate the review process, but at the same time, if I'm going to be consistent, where I don't want the review, then it would not have stood because the ref waved it off immediately. So the original call actually would have stood. The first part of the insanity is waving it off. The goaltender was out of his crease and he almost initiated the contact. Like it's just gone too far. What was Jerry showing the GMs down in Florida?

Cartoons and their breakaway groups? I know. Like they apparently went through this and said, this is goaltender interference. And my biggest fear is that a team that's dying to get into the playoffs, whether it be the Montreal Canadiens, the Calgary Flames, the St. Louis Blues, the Ottawa Senators, the last game of the season is going to come down to one garbage call like that. Well, that's true. And I'll tell you one other thing if that was Austin Matthews or Connor McDavid that goal What counted I guarantee you on hundred million dollars? I guarantee you I played for the Carolina Hurricanes

And not to say the Islanders they got a great franchise They've got their cups, but the position that they're in right now someone's like nah Do you think do you think the league's like we got to get Columbus in like Columbus isn't exactly the New York Rangers You know, I don't think of Connor McDavid on a Saturday night. That was him that tipped that in it would even have gotten to that position I'm not sure I'm telling you that's a goal And everything. Yeah, I hear you Here's the problem is that goalies cheat and now I think they're reaching to initiate contact because once there's contact, then it's up for debate. It's up for debate and they cheat.

Goalies cheat on everything. They cheat on their diets, they cheat on their equipment size, they cheat on... They're like you. Oh, I couldn't get set. Boom. And then the puck's in the net. I personally don't like this call. I think it should be a call.

Paul Mary's making an effort to stay outside the crease There's the nudge. There's a second nudge goalies cheat Oh, I couldn't get set if you hadn't hit him. You would have hit you So guys goalies are their chronic cheaters on everything in the game. Well, I would agree with that I concur with all that and you're right Mersleek and sold it and he also went the way. Like he cheats to the right trying to cheat and it goes on the left side. But what's amazing is one of the all-time great goalies

would be Patrick Waugh, who was on the wrong side of goaltending, cheating last night. And I wanna play this clip because I was thinking of you, Strudy, I knew you were gonna be on. I'm like, I'll guarantee, this is how the rest of the country feels about Toronto.

Like Patrick Waugh has been dying his whole life to say this about the city. Here's what he had to say about the review process last night pulmonary was out of the crease and We tipped it in and I think their goalie push him away at the same time if Toronto is afraid to overturn calls made by the referee we don't need Toronto was afraid to overturn calls made by their referee. We don't need Toronto. That's all I would want to say. That is not directed at the Toronto Maple Leafs. That is the review. I understand that but he you know James Duffy's in here from Ottawa, Struddy from Edmonton. The rest of the country's been dying to say that. Haven't they JD? Like he loves saying, like if that was, if the command central center was in

Montreal, there's no way he says it that way. He was dying to take a shot at Toronto. Is that a Toronto guy reading a little too much? I don't think so. Sensitive. I don't think so. Look, if it was New York, but it used to be New York they were out of when they made the calls, right?

I believe so. Do you think he just would have said New York? I don't know. You know, he's in New York. He's got to be careful with that place York I don't know I don't know he's in New York he's got to be careful with that place I don't know but I what does that even mean though we don't need Toronto yes you do like they're the ones that review it saying it was a stupid call on the ice and then they went to Toronto to look at it and they reaffirmed the stupidity of it yeah I understand saying what yeah what's the point of

review if they're gonna screw it up on review well do you think Columbusumbus of the same i'll bet you columbus was like great call great like this is the way it always is half the fans and half the players and half the coaches are gonna be happy and the other half well needed that's the way it's always marty bieros is something interesting last night on sports center i guess that they have to gm's meetings they showed them sixty four controversial columns they were

watching cart and sixty the sixty two they agreed with the call that the nhl made was which is the nhl's way of popping out of chest and say we get this right most of the time but that would be that would not be one of the sixty two who i think of the g there's no way all the gm's would look at that said they got i don't think so and and pierre lebron told us yesterday that he he kinda challenges that based on who he's speaking with. Because you're right, the NHL is trying to portray this element of unity and everyone sees it the same way and there's absolutely no subjectivity on

a call like this. But it's 100% subjective. And it sucks because the Islanders, they're a plucky team. Like they're fighting for their lives, man. And they lost a point last night to a team that's right behind them. So what's your read? I guess we can go around the table on this because you've got Montreal in action. They've got St. Louis tonight. That's a big, big game.

Every day we come in here and we readdress who we think is gonna make it as a wild card team. I think Ottawa feels pretty locked in. I think that, you know, I listened to you guys doing your little happiness scale last night. I think you're basically right with your list, KCB. But the, Ottawa is the more nervous franchise just because A, that team, if you look at

their season, the second half, it's like five wins in a row, six losses in a row, six wins in a row, six losses in a row. So they're one more of those streaks from being right back on the cusp. Don't you think they're over that though when they see the finish line and they're like guys, let's close the deal. I know, it's just when it's been like eight years, I think you have some scars. I think they're definitely going to get there, but there'll probably be one more little rocky road along the way where they drop three in a row and suddenly it's two points up.

I think it's going to be Ottawa-Montero. It's great for them though, like that having every minute count every shift count That's exactly what this team needs right here. And it's whether it's new guy Dylan cousins all the guys that have been there wrong I'm ready wrong. It's okay. We hate we talked about it and you were fixing your internet. It's okay Smoke a team in the first round. It's okay to cruise to the playoffs You know not everything has to be stressful in a learning lesson. Start spanking teams, that's okay too. That's a great learning lesson for the positive.

But then you're not in that moment. Like I believe you grow through adversity as a player and as a team. Don't you think there's been enough adversity in Ottawa's study? That's, but you earn it. Then you earn your right to get in the playoffs, but you have to have that feeling of knowing

that when it's three, two with one minute left and you need to protect this one goal lead that we can do it. If it's 5-1, 5-1, 5-1 then you get to the last game and you lose it because you didn't have that experience. I think this is exactly what this team needs. I think they need nail biter right down to the end because they'll grow more as a team no matter how they do in the playoffs. Okay, so how does that apply to chasing the president's trophy because we got a big one in winnipeg tonight

jets cabs one of these two teams is going to win it they're both a different conference really want to win it that the by would why would you not want to win this something all bad happens to the president but that's stupid but i agree with you hockey players are like that and they probably don't that's the same the whole thing about not if you would the whole not touching the trophy when you win the east or the west division if you look statistically historically it's literally 50% you win if you touch it 50% you win if you don't touch it which is exactly what math is

there's no curse if you touch the trophy last team to win a cup winning the president of New York one eight thirteen I think it was the Blackhawks. And 13 or 15. So be the next one. Yeah exactly go get it go chase it. I disagree. So you don't want to win the... you're telling me these two teams tonight are saying you take it we don't want it tonight like why would you not want a the accomplishment of being the best team in the regular season I know it's not the equivalent of the playoffs but it's still worthy of something you've dragged your fans on this ride this whole time plus then you're guaranteed home ice advantage. Maybe you play them in the cup final. Maybe everything points out. Listen to a great former defenseman. Strati,

explain why it doesn't matter. Yeah because to be honest it's nothing. You have nothing to show for it. So I think what it's more about is beating another really good team. That's what I'd be worried about. I'm not worried about getting two points to win the president's trophy. I think that's the message from the coach and the players to, hey, let's beat this team so they know we're better than them. I don't care about the president's trophy because at the end of the day, how many people say 2004 president's trophy winner James Duffy? Have you guys ever said that? Have you guys ever won one? You or your strides never won a president's trophy, right?

You know how everybody gets the little mini Stanley cups when you win the Stanley Cup does everybody any Eastern Conference Trophy does anybody have a President does anybody get little mini president trophies They should if you didn't have have any if you hadn't won anything else in your career Would you get a little mini president's trophy that you have on your shelf behind you in your home office I mean it'll be something to show people when they come like a sound like the hall of fame MVP when I retired and I realized that I've won nothing I would make my own this is what you get not winning the president's strike why is why why don't you take pride in that I would yeah it's an

accomplishment it's an 82 game season yes we're more obsessed with the Cup. Do you not agree though that more bad happens to the president? But it's total. That's a fluke, man. That has nothing to do with the president's trophy. Who won it last year? The Rangers. They got spanked by Florida. Still, they made it to a conference final. You don't think Winnipeg and Washington? I think both teams would sign off on that right now. That's a loser's mentality. I'll admit but I think if you're if you're In a private moment you go to the Winnipeg Jets or Washington you answer this stuffy and I guarantee you games You lose game seven conference final. Would you take it right now? You wouldn't take it. That means you're guaranteed you want two rounds you want two rounds and you got to they both think they're gonna win

This daily cup do they do you think they they both think they're gonna win the Stanley Cup Do they you think they both really think they're gonna win? When you have the record that they both do of course you think you have a president trophy and a game seven On earth I made maybe some fans would take that yeah So if you're a silver win, but if you're a player and I was never a player But wouldn't you guys rather be? Instead of going that deep wouldn't you just rather get knocked out if you're gonna lose the conference final if you're not gonna at least go to the Stanley Cup final? At least when you get to the conference final you're bluffing it a little bit.

Yeah, you're accomplished something. You're gonna get a midi conference finalist trophy? Yeah, if there's such thing. Hey listen, like Washington won a cup seven, eight years ago so it's, I guess they've raised the bar a little bit. Winnipegpeg you get to a conference final you're an all-time great Jets team like if they win the President's Trophy and get to a conference final they did that one they did that again Vegas in 18 or what actually that that was the year Washington won the cup that was the year they would have been Winnipeg Washington and Stanley Cup final that was the year that the jet we went there for those couple those games that must insanity yeah and that was the year that the jet we went there for the couple those games i must add

yeah and that was it was you know vegas biggest i don't think you can get any respect rated the entire season basically every round everybody thought kind of what people are talking about washington this year i they have been never been there before vegas is going to be fodder i think when a big thought they were going to stand the cup final in the speed of five i think maybe uh they were going to the Stanley Cup Final and Vegas beat them in five. I think maybe To get to the cup finals. So

Yeah, but but look, what do you think the Jets are worried about winning the president's trophy or not being the team? We saw in the first round last well, obviously, but why can't you have both though? That's my point Why why can you why do you only have to pick one lane? Why can't you win the president's trophy and also then be in a position where you think you can pounce come playoff time? Why can't you do both? It's about the process right? It's about playing well, getting your game in order, then the byproducts winning the president's trophy. Yeah but you don't mind it as a byproduct. You're not one of these guys saying I don't want to win because it's a jinx because nobody wins it right? I mean it's probably not but I'd rather go into the class playing well

and be a sixth seed rather than having the president's trophy and not a face adversity like we saw like Boston a couple years ago. Boston got the great regular season didn't do anything. You need to have adversity I believe. That's how you grow as a team and being hardened ready for the battle. So based on that logic you're saying you think it would be better for Winnipeg to lose the rest of the regular season games so that they face some sort of adversity and they play Colorado in the first round? But what are we talking about here? I think when they close their eyes I'm guessing they're worried about the first round because of what happened last year. I would agree with that. And so the President's trophy or no President's trophy,

it doesn't matter. They have to make sure their game's in order. And as a team and as a player, you know when your game's in order. You know when you're playing well and you know when you're bluffing and winning games you should lose or vice versa. But that's what I think Winnipeg's focused on. So if they win it because of our byproduct, yeah, that's great. But if their game's slipping heading to the playoffs and they get that first game, how do you think they're moting their field even though they have their little president's trophy

shooter glass behind them in their stall? Yeah that's, listen that's valid. I hear what you're saying like you I just think you can accomplish both. KZB what would you be more afraid of? What would you be more nervous about first night of Toronto Stanley Cup playoffs? Dude we already talked about the one or everything in one person's account game one versus auto where is where i'm going to order for a while he goes he is deathly afraid of all the while you know why because if the least by all on the first round and they go down in flames in seven

games even what i have doesn't matter the amount of games he is already said on this show that will be the king daddy topper in the worst of all correct that's the correct answer I don't have no pressure well I don't have no pressure they have no pressure but also listen leaf the Maple Leafs and Leaf fans have very very few things where they can hang hang it over a different opponent or a different fan base the one thing they own is the battle of ontario

the one thing but they don't know a half-wisely yes platform they have a battle of ontario trophy in their case what they have they have a battle of ontario where they are literally perfect when they meet all along the board you get a mini division champion trophy if they were prevailed in the division and went out in the first I would promote the idea of a banner raising next year. I would promote it.

They've only won what is it three and if this two in 84 years? Yeah they've never won anything. They never won any division. So I do think like we had that chat earlier like we're talking about Winnipeg and Washington I think the Leafs chasing first. I don't know where you stand on that stride, but I think it's I think it's very important It's not the end of the world, but I think it actually speaks to what you're talking about here because you're chasing Florida you're chasing tan or you're with them

You're not even chasing them You're you're all basically in the starters line with 11 to 12 games to go between the three teams Who can be the hottest down the stretch is gonna get that first seed? So that's what I'm talking about like kind of killing two birds with one stone. You get red hot down the stretch, perform well, you probably got to beat those teams. They play Florida twice and Tampa once. You win those games and you end up with the first seed. That's something very fresh for the Maple Leafs and very different in terms of their mentality going in. And no matter how scared you would be because of the possible outcome, it's still a better, and even though Ottawa's been a tough matchup on the Leafs, you still want them over

Tampa or Florida. Yes, I mean based on the matchup, based on on playoff experience, Ottawa doesn't have a ton of it, you know the Leafs would be in a driver's hit, it's the truth. I mean the Leafs would be expected to win. I think you also want Omar Kover, Vasilevsky or Bobrovsky just in, he can be awesome, but he's also like one night. Yes. Just in he can be awesome. But he's also like 190 is great 190. Yeah, but none of those are easy though. No, they're not. No, they're not. That's that's but I think if you're so I think there's two the Leafs and let's say the Jets is that the Jets get first place.

That's great. It's a good thing. I think the Leafs need it so they maybe don't have to battle quite as hard to get through those first two rounds. I would agree with that. I agree with that. I think most people would Do you think hella buck is it? How big is this game for him tonight in terms of chasing the heart trophy? In other words big platform game spotlight OV's in town dry subtles hurt Doesn't sound like Leon's gonna play all week like dry subtles probably gonna miss six seven games down the stretch You're saying like hella buck goes on a heater here the next two weeks he could lock it up yeah like in a big one tonight you stone OV you win tonight 2 1

3 1 he plays great that feels like it feels to me like it's a big big moment for him you see that same way yeah yeah I mean I hadn't really even thought of the heart who the odds makers have I think it's title right now I guess hellebuck now like his dress settles injuries kind of taking him out of I have a like in and I don't know why he is like the guy's so good every night and people are like now you want it last year sorry I'm generally biased against goalies for the heart which I shouldn't be but I I don't know it has to be a special season I think hebuck would qualify here.

Like the time that Theodore beat what, Aguila? Yeah, don't ask noodles about that. Yeah, I mean, to me that was a travesty. It really was. Better hair for sure. It wasn't a hair contest though, right? No, it wasn't. Because Theodore's hair was phenomenal. No, but then he got busted for the Propecia.

He was taking something. And it was a performance enhancing thing, but it was taken it was uh... it was a performance enhancing thing but it was the hair thing that was most shocking thing ever was goofy you're right and forgot about that i was the most shocking scandal in hockey history the guy with the best hair in the league was popping the probe it was a lot of shock you never got busted uh... we we just with me and hees went to Turkey and just got the full summer move.

We heard there's some guy in Calgary, world renowned and apparently strut. You're getting pushed down to Calgary or what? Are you going to take the jumper? I remember I looked at Propecia, but a friend of mine, Brian Burrard used it and his hair felt like straw. I love how you used this name. And I said, run your hands through my hair. So I did.

And it felt like straw and I was like, I'm not doing it. I'd rather go bald than have straw hair. Okay. So I don't know, but there's some, some talk about going down to Calgary. I've heard he's really good at a friend do it. And this guy is like a six at best. It took him to about a seven and a half. He looks so good. That's big, man. Pointing a half in your your 40s or 50s. That's massive, man. Freddie, they could sponsor your pod. It could be a whole thing.

Everything. Might be a good investment for both of us, right? Or it could sink both businesses. You go to this guy. You show up on your pod with a straight line across your forehead and it's just all out of whack. You're a mess. Well, there were some guys who played in your generation

who did the transplants when transplants were first the thing, but then didn't follow up on them. And they had the old line across with nothing behind, not gonna name names here, but there was a few that were glassy. It's a wild scene. There wasn't much behind enemy lines, if you know what I'm saying.

Like it was like. It reminds me, I knew a guy, a buddy of mine at college that took steroids and he didn't go to the gym. So he was just, he was taking roids and not doing anything. So what happened to your body? Not good things. Like it was really, he was so bloated and a mess. So we're talking like you mean he

wasn't even working out at home? No he wasn't doing anything. What happens? Well he got he started like he had this big plan he's like I'm getting in shape and I'm gonna start taking roids and I'm gonna start doing it and he got in this program and he was so lazy. He just never the boy Did you get like man boobs or whatever It started to really it was like a deformation that was really uncomfortable Like there was some weird stuff going not not like crazy, but like acne and all like all the bad signs of Roy The body yeah without the body because like the benefit is all right You're gonna actually work through it and you

go to the gym and you can be there for hours and you recover quickly. Of course. This guy was just basically taking roids and then boozing and smoking weed every night and doing nothing. Where is he today? It's a great question. I haven't heard from him in a while. Let's get him online too.

I'll get an update on that guy. We'd love to hear it. I'll find out what his story is. Watch him be jacked. He's probably like an influencer. See that influencer That's going viral this week because he wakes up at 3 30 in the morning Yeah, and then he wraps up his day

He eats a banana and then puts the banana peel on his face as some sort of I don't know what the purpose of that Doogie, maybe you can look up details on it that it's good for your skin I guess it's good for your skin and I don't know if he can Yeah, he actually did have really nice skin. And then he goes to the gym at Four and the More. Is that the same guy that does his routine? Yes, former football player I think. He gets up, he's jacked, he does like an ice bath.

I would try the banana wipe though. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. Skip the rest, eh Duffy? Yeah, I won't do anything else, but I will wipe the banana all over the place if you need me to. Exactly. No gym, no ice bath, but banana peels on your face I'm gonna try that I'll come in next week and see how it looks okay there we go let's do it let's do it you have to do it on a constant basis like daily wipe I get

that banana peel or the skin of the banana peel I'm not sure actually by the inside because I've seen you could do it while you're yeah well the bananas still inside inside you gotta and you gotta eat the banana. That's not a problem. Apparently that's imperative. Okay. Alright, let us know. Keep us up to date on how that's going. I will.

Alright JD, we got a quiz tonight, we got the panel, we got everything. Yeah. We got a lot of games on TSN tonight. Yeah, it's like all the regionals all over the place. What studio is everyone gonna be in? We're in the big six. Okay. We only do the big one. Oh and I won't show up if it's not the big six. You guys are mandatory

studio six. Furious if we have to relocate. We get so angry when the CFL kicks us out sometimes. We literally do the, do you know who we are and what games we are doing. To each other. And then done again. And then Kate Burness looks at me and says, get the hell out of my studio. And I just put my tail between my legs and leave. Because she's powerful. No one messes with Kate. Crushing it. Madness the whole night.

She's on all the time. Looks great, sounds great. Everything's coming together. All right, studio six tonight. We'll catch you then. Thank you. Least flyers, there he is, James Duffy. All right, we got Mike Johnson, who's got the call tonight.

MJ coming up in about 20 minutes. Confirmed denial later this afternoon. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 in on TSN 4. Paul Hollingsworth, AKA Hollywood. This is insane. He thinks he knows Steroid Guy. Oh.

Ha ha ha. He might, he might. This was in Halifax. Yeah, he's from out east. He goes, oh dog, I'm listening. And I swear, I know steroid guy. And I wanted to write back and say Hollywood, there are so many guys that have possibly tried this. And he goes, I'm telling you, I know who this guy is. Okay. Well, I mean, listen, we're going back like 20 years now Like it's a good shape before Hollywood

Horrible shape DM Hayes and see if you're talking about the same guys. I know I I'm looking at this guy on the couch So lazy not doing anything because his thought was Like this would it would boost his energy, right? Like you get out in front of it you start doing it and then you did I know what that guy he had no idea. What's what he did? No idea just said I'm gonna take Roy's. Yeah, I'm gonna be in shape. I'm gonna get jacked Yeah, because you know like you guys were athletes So like you were in shape and you were living a different life You gotta understand like when you're in in university or college like there are days that will pass where you're you know

You're going to school. You're doing doing other stuff but you get into these like it's it's it's the kind of dog days of the school year too right and you're you're drinking and you're doing all this different stuff and then you come up with these ideas you're like I'm gonna change my life I'm gonna do this and this guy that was the plan it was probably one night four in the morning guy was whatever and he's like you know what I'm doing I'm ordering this right now and I'm going to get out in front of this and I'm going to start going to the gym every day and I've got my routine.

And then he started and he did nothing, nothing. And it was like, and guys were asking, they're like, are you going to start going to the gym? Like, what's your story, man? Like you can't just do roids and not follow through and like you didn't follow through. You would just do something like jog like jog on roids. Even a push-up like ten push-ups a day. Right do something at home right like prison rules if you have to you know like get up do a hundred sit-ups hundred

push-ups a couple of squats at least least you can say, all right, I'm halfway there. I started to turn over a new leaf. But no, that wasn't the case. All right, so we got Mike Johnson in about 10 minutes. Chris Knoblack on the show at 6 o'clock talking about the Oilers. They're off obviously today, but in action tomorrow. Doesn't sound great for Leon or Connor, right, Strud? I don't know what you're hearing, but I'm not sure they're going to play this week.

Yeah, that's what he said. So nothing this week. So, that's what he said. So nothing this week. So, you know, it's interesting. It's kind of a time for other guys that don't get the ice time to step up. And, you know, selfishly, I remember when a top demon got hurt. I was, hey, man, I feel bad for you. Then I gave it a little pumpernickels.

I was on the way to the dressing room because that meant I get to play a little bit more, right? And Nuge, Skinner, Henrique, all these guys are now playing quite a bit more in the kind of feeling, get that offensive mojo back. Yeah, I think it could be a real blessing in disguise, like moving McDavid. You know when they return. Rest for those guys alone. Exactly.

Shut them down, get some rest. You know when they come back, they're going to play right where they're supposed to play and they're going to be great come playoff time. But to your point, get other guys boosted up get some confidence going and It started really well over the weekend Eugene Hopkins with a hat trick and kind of everything's moving in the right direction for Edmonton right now So yeah, Chris knobblah coming up later this afternoon confirmed that the nice daughter come as well overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on the TSN app you've been listening to overdrive powered by FanDuel FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score on the TSN app. Rock, pop, hip-hop, and when it comes to country, it's the true north all the way.

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