OverDrive - OverDrive - March 26, 2024 - Hour 2

Episode Date: March 26, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger joins to discuss the headlines around the NHL. They go around the sports world in the latest edition of Role Play Level of Concern and the Maple Leafs' win against the Flyers.

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This is a party where everyone is invited. Stream the Earth Day Party Podcast starting April 1st on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to your favorite podcasts. Guys, just a little PSA. It's warming up a little bit. People are back up hitting the pavement, me being one of them, starting to run a lot again. If you got a dog on a leash who's been known to lunge and take a chunk, you got to keep your dogs in order for people out there. I got bit last year, been lunged at twice already. Get control of them.

Yeah, that's very reasonable. I think that's a reason you gotta know what your dog's gonna Do I just started crossing the street and I said I'm not whatever dog little guy whatever I don't even go near them anymore, but you got to be in control of your dog Yeah, I think that that should go without saying but It is amazing when you see videos of people that are like my dogs a reactor it's a react well maybe you know if it's a reactor you should probably do something about that or find a world call me I think there's some people that overreact it's because of situations like that there's people that literally freak out when they see a dog but

if your dog gets a little bit adventurous you gotta you're you're the boss yeah you got a real man man I don't know dogs hate my face so I don't like I you know they they can they sense it though they can sense it but like my neighbor has like a horse it's not even a dog it's like a horse and I don't know what type of mix it is or whatever I think there's some rottweiler or whatever like it and it looks like as mean as a snake and like the daughter And I don't know what type of mix it is or whatever. I think there's some Rottweiler or whatever. It looks like as mean as a snake. The daughter was walking it the other day and I happened to be out in front of my house.

It had a look on its face like, I will come and eat you. Yeah. It doesn't like human particularly. I was like, this thing is going to... Because it'll just drag... There's no way a person would have been able to reel that thing in it would have dragged that human right across the around the neighborhood it is amazing you see those massive dogs I got you as a no-pet zone guy like I pet entering your house hazy no listen I'll have you like my mother-in-law's got a dog you know she'll bring bring girls are gonna

pop the question sooner or later yeah see we're pushing towards a fish like fish is all good man contain a living man that's not living last night in our house so the fish is gonna be tits up swimming one day and you're gonna if you if you don't have one on back quarter oh yeah yeah. But I understand that. Explain that one. Oh, it's just having a nap. It's having a nap. The life expectancy is not exactly spectacular when it comes to a fish. And then you need the tanks and you need to make sure that you got everything prepared. Tanks, tanks, and it's just gross.

Ours lasted 10 days. Ten days and my son said, is floating up sleeping upside down and I was like uh oh. There you go. And I forgot that you know you got to, you're not supposed to put tap water in, you're supposed to put like, it's a whole other deal. I murdered the fish by accident. I didn't do it on purpose. Right. I didn't clean the tank properly and then it cost the fish it's life. So that was it. I mean, no pets. This is, you guys know, animals don't like me. I tolerate them.

They're fine. But in the end, like it just, it's a no-fly zone. Yeah, there's no pets over here either. My kids beg me for animals. Yeah, there's no pets over here. So it's all good. It's all good. But I, okay, it's good to hear you're back out there, a little humble brag running again.

I like it. Running again, eh? Yeah, look at this guy hitting the pavement again We need the weather to get a little bit nicer but it is getting there and again the Blue Jays are at home tomorrow and that's gonna be great to have them back in town you got a tank off in the NBA the Raptors are in Brooklyn tonight and Washington Philly so like if if if the Sixers lose to Washington Nick Nurse deserves an award. Dude, don't you think, don't you find it, like, you watch a lot more ball than we do?

Don't you find it, I find it's offensive what it's gotten, what it's come to in the NBA, like, there's almost teams that are just so bad and guys don't want to play and the tanking, it's like, yo, you think that's a tank? Hold my beer. Why? Like it's, yeah, it's becoming gross. It's, and there's a lot of teams like generally, you know, there's, there's someone's got to finish last.

There's going to be an awful team. Dude, I get it. But there's just no dignity left. Yeah, but exactly. You know, like you look at the white Sox, horrendous, awful, but they're sending guys out and trying to strike people out. Guys, I think guys in the White Sox were generally pissed off last year.

They're like, this is embarrassing. It's embarrassing. People in the NBA are just like, go ahead, just don't look over here because we're going to do some stuff you've never seen before, man. Yeah, and that's what you're going to see tonight. It is insane. You're going to see it tonight because I think Brooklyn's a two and a half point favorite and I think the Sixers are two and a half point favorite and that is shocking. Being a two and a half point favorite against

Washington is shocking because as bad as everyone else is they are horrendous. So we get that cooking and then we get the Leafs out in California. You know what though from a fan base standpoint if you're a fan of that team I've got some friends who are diehard Raptor fans. Are they going to watch it like are you going to watch? Like it takes a special fan to go and do that. Yeah, I mean you got to be really committed It's it's like any fan base if you know you're gonna lose and they have been losing a lot There's no guarantees who's gonna be playing It's tough man. Yeah. Like Sunday was a really tough game because Wemby's hurt so he didn't play, Darren Fox

is hurt, he didn't play so the Spurs are in town and no one's playing for the Raptors and they got torched. So if you're at that game you're like, what did I just witness? Like the Raptors got crushed, San Antonio stinks and Wemby's not even playing. Like it's just, it's you know, it's experience, but it's not anything you're ever going to remember or ever want to remember positively. People are just begging, like, I hope nobody's watching this. It's so embarrassing. It's a grind, man. There's no other way to put it. But listen, the Leafs, they're the team that have basically the emotions of the city in

the palm of their hands. Because we'll see what the Blue Jays do this year. Optimism's in the air. Day one of the season. Good spring. All right, let's see what you got. Rappers, a different story. TFC's a mess.

The Maple Leafs are the ones that can change the whole feeling within the marketplace. Here's Darren Drager at TSN Hockey Insider joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline. Do you think the Leafs are comfortable with that position that they're in, Draggs? That they've got to pull up basically the whole vibe of the city on their shoulders right now? the whole vibe of the city is on their shoulders right now. Yeah, I mean, I doubt very much that's an internal conversation happening maybe in smaller groups amongst the players, but they might feel it. I don't think they actually live it day to day.

Maybe management does. Certainly ownership would in recognizing just the opportunity here, but I don't think that anyone's applying a higher level of pressure than the pressure that we've seen over the last few years. Yeah, and again, they're jockeying for position. We can't even have the conversation, which is refreshing that we don't know who they're playing. This time last year, we would have been detailing, okay, how do they match up with Boston in

the first round? Two years ago it was Tampa by this time. That is something that is different and a little bit fresh because you can't prepare for the first round because they're still jockeying for position. That last night, that flyer team, what do you make of Tortorella and his future there? Well, I mean, he's got another year left on his contract and I suspect that he wants to continue to coach. He's got a different position as head coach of the Philadelphia Flyers in that he has

essentially a seed at the management table. He's not making the final call. Obviously, Keith Jones is heavily involved in theabriere as a general manager but Torz definitely has a voice at that table so he would be well aware of every decision that has been made whether he agrees with that sports it opposes it doesn't matter but he wants to win. Like, I mean, that's just how the man is wired. And we saw it last night. You know, he just, he, he didn't look defeated. At times he looked amused, but he's not. Like that's his happy angry, if that makes any sense. He's just bubbling on the bench of the Philadelphia Flyers.

So I think they're going to get through the tough year that is remaining here and then they have to have a conversation. But he might be as good as anyone to shepherd this team into the next phase. And it sure looks like they're ready for that next phase which is at at least a retool renovation maybe a rebuild like I I mean we watch that game last night we were in disbelief from everything from goaltending all the way out and in fairness to the guys on the ice maybe they can see it better than all of us and they're just simply waiting for the end of the season and what happens next. Yeah that's what it

looks like I mean they've given up seven goals in a game I want to say like five times since December. Well back-to-back too. But it's like those are staggering stats but the Leafs an advantage of it last night They had to you know they weren't they weren't happy about what happened in Nashville and to their credit They showed up and that second line in particular It's difficult to evaluate because Philly was so bad like you said but yeah, and or tomorrow's McMahon Like I don't see how Baruba gets away from that drags I mean that feels like it's's gotta be your second line moving forward.

It has to be, has to be in, you know, I liked what Craig Barube said about Bobby McMahon the other night and how he's earned that spot, you know, in a perfect world, maybe Bobby man slides into your third line and he gives you a little bit of push there, but there's no tinkering with that connection now You know I at times last night it looked like I mean obviously the second I carried the team But it looked like often Matthews was just okay Marner was in and out Matthew nice to me always finds a way to be noticeable out there and then you look down that third line and

That the bottom six for the Maple Leafs is is going to be a big challenge I think moving forward and how that's managed by coaches and how they try and get something going because you're not going to mess around too much I wouldn't think at this point in the season with what you have in your top six. But the bottom six aside from, and we acknowledge this postgame, that's nice that Dave Camp gets the breakaway goal to make it, what was it, 6-1, 6-2 at that point. And then Max Domi scores the seventh goal. So those goals maybe inject a little bit of life, but man you don't you don't take her with what you have in your top section

right now that second line has been dominant leading group so that a goalie interference call last night i mean this one now we're not going to talk about this that really like you know all i see is patrick was based on whatever it was a review i see i see patrick wall not like i i i i i understood where they were without one last night like there was but i mean that

the patrick one yeah i still it is there any blow back i i haven't check today he wasn't finder anything was he like is he for patrick's comments now i don't think so little uh... i don't think so but i'm not i mean here is the kind of line in the sand between where coaches

have influence in the game period outside of the actual game being played. I've talked about philosophically and how they impact the game moving forward and, and don't. Um, so not to go through the whole process again but we went through that all of it last week and you know the general managers went through all the video session I think Godog referred to it as watching cartoons last night on set. Oh is that what you said like all he did was watch cartoons. They must have been Darren because I have no idea what the hell's going on. Like I just watched again that replay of Mitch Marner and you could say

that his foot was in the crease he was in the crease he had no intentions of making contact with that goaltender whatsoever he was trying to make a really creative hockey play and then somebody bowls him over into the goaltender and that's the interference. I just think we've lost our way No, I that was a goalie interference last Yeah, he ran into the goalie ended up behind the net He didn't that wasn't the goalie's fault like he doesn't get pushed into the goalie And so Marner was trying to do a dinky between the leg move and he fell into the goaltender like that's yeah

Yeah, there's a little bit of help. Halfway in the corner though. I mean Marner, I don't know. We don't agree. It's a hot dog move that went south for him and ran the goaltender. It was an unnecessary move and it's 60k. Totally unnecessary. Like to me that, you know, again, I'm a goalie hugger so I probably shouldn't weigh in, but I, when I was watching them, I'm like that's a hundred percent goaltender interference that's the definition of it you run into the

goaltender and knock him out of the net like that one I didn't think there was a debate on now so here's the problem and and the problem is so as you guys watch as educated you know hockey players and and media and fans so your interpretation of what goalie interference is and noodles with folded and full respect i mean you play to position for many many years at the professional level but i'm biased right i agree it but i'm just saying collectively

it may not be the same as the thirty two and a child general managers and it obviously not be the same as the 32 NHL general managers and it obviously isn't the same as hockey operations. And that group of men who've been calling the video review process from day one, it's the same group of guys, it's the same group. And so that's why they went through their process last week in an exhaustive fashion. And, you know, like overwhelmingly are in favor with how the play is called. And what's important to acknowledge is, okay, what is the referee seat? And so if we go back to the, the, the Kyle Palmieri play, well, the referee is called no goal.

That was a call on the ice. So Patrick's comment on, well, what do we need Toronto for if they're not going to have the guts to overturn it? Well, maybe Patrick should walk down the hall as I said last night talk to his general manager Lou He was part of the process Which we all are vehemently opposed to like that's the part that makes me laugh out loud is we all have these opinions because the eye test tells us differently. The managers don't see it the same way. So with all the respect to Patrick, while hall of Famer, you know, who cares? You know, then I haze, I chirped you about this a week ago.

You know, who cares about what the coaches think? Nobody, nobody, nobody, nobody. The managers don't care. NHL hockey office doesn't care. The head office doesn't care now, but I say that, but now I think because of what Patrick said, maybe they should force the coaches into the same room with the general managers to go through the same 55 plays or make it a hundred and have the same voting process

So that hey when it happens he to the moment then maybe you shouldn't bitch about it because that's the way it's gonna be called With Darren Drager a TSN hockey insider. So in Edmonton Dry settles out. It sounds like another week and McDavid's out longer than him. Trent Fredericks, it sounds like weeks away from even skating with the team. Yeah, that was a tough one. Yeah, like what's, I guess, take us through the lineage here, like Dry Suttles still a week. What's up with McDavid that they're comfortable in saying today he's out even longer than that. At what point do we start to get concerned about what's going on with him?

Well, I'm not getting the sense that there's a reason to be overly concerned, but I caution and I'm hesitant in saying that because all of a sudden you're three games from the end of the regular season and he's still not ready. And I'm not suggesting that as a case. Information I got yesterday was exactly just said Brian like all right well Connor might be a little bit longer but and it's not load management these guys are dealing with issues but they feel like that they built up enough that they can get through it and and you know they'll manage it.

The best case scenario is that these guys get back to health and that they're ready to go for the playoffs. But the better story, at least from an internal perspective in Edmonton, is all of a sudden now you've got Ryan Nugent-Hopkins who's come alive here, he's producing, and you've got other factors that are generating how the team is playing. So I think the team, well, I had somebody close say to me, might be the best thing that happened. And what that tells me is obviously it's, you know, when you have your, you have two of the top players on the planet out of your lineup,

that's not the best case scenario. But if the best case scenario is they get the rest that they need, they get healthy and other guys pick up the slack in the meantime then that might be best case scenario going into the playoffs. Yeah, I agree. The only difference is, you know, they're not playing Seattle, you know, tonight. They're playing Dallas. Like they're, you know, and that's the biggest thing It's a bigger test for them. I don't mind it in a sense where you do Figure out what you have if Andrew Cain's flying around out there

I don't know if you saw that guy saw that video looks like he looks decent like, you know They're gonna have him on the playoffs, but you've got to figure out what you have heading into the playoffs But I think they're more focused on getting those guys healthy at to a hundred percent Not just forcing not forcing them allowing them to play at 90, you know And then having something that could reoccur and flare up because they're gonna as oh pointed out They're gonna need everything they've got against LA. I think LA is a really sneaky good team and You know, they've lost three games at home all season long that's how good they've been. They're going to have their hands full whoever they

play but they've got to be healthy and to me I would err on the side of caution with those top players instead of allowing them you know dry settled to come back early to get his 50th or whatever. I don't think they care about that. I think they care about health. And not to switch gears here, but look at what St. Louis is doing, right? Jesus. You know, that offer sheet debacle is like that is going to leave a stench in Edmonton for the foreseeable future. A full diaper on the side of the highway. Just take that. Full diaper. There's no doubt

about that. Obviously Jeff Jackson and Stan Baldwin and before that, Ken Holland didn't feel like there was any way to correct it, but oh boy. Now every show I do, including a couple this week, is about, okay, well, our team's just eyeballing all the offer sheet possibilities. No different than they do every other year. The difference was last year that Edmonton was so vulnerable in every capacity that that's what they ended up with.

And I'm sure there were decisions that were made that we don't have to go through here but that lent itself to that but I I mean it's not like general managers and hockey operations departments went oh my goodness we're gonna follow what Doug Armstrong the St. Louis Blues did last year and try and offer cheat every RFA on the planet that's how it works but it certainly worked in in St. Louis. Dreggs, I was speaking about contracts in Edmonton. I was doing some hockey doom scrolling today. And the McDavid stuff, just like, is that just what we do as

Canadians when like one of these great players contracts comes up? Like we just say, oh, we just, speculation, we let our imagination run wild with McDavid's contract because I heard Kevin Lowe speaking on it. Like it's just, it'll be a sideshow until he actually inks the deal, won't it? It will be, but I guess what I do from afar is try and read the room. And you know, Connor is fairly established obviously in

Edmonton and I mean that's abundantly clear as a hockey player and a community leader and everything that he has going on. But he has other elements of his business and his family that is, you know, put down roots in Edmonton as well. That can all change, you know. Let's see what happens with the direction of the team. And with due cause, and maybe that changes with the salary cap going up a little bit, although as we've talked about here, even though the projections are that the cap

is going up this much and then that much and then that much more, it's always the top players that are in command, the chunk of the salary cap, right? And your bottom six and your fringe players are always gonna fight for the scraps. And that's not gonna change with the cap going up. But I think Connor is going to be a percentage fairer. But what is that?

Don't know, don't know. And I would equate that to any of the cap teams, Toronto included. You know, we look at what Toronto has to face and other teams around the league that they have to face. It's, it's all the same, but I, I don't get the sense. I don't even dig into McDavid anymore. I just, I feel like after dry title, um, that McDavid is going to fall in line at a higher level at a higher percentage. But I feel like if he weren't committed to staying in Edmonton for a myriad of reasons, we'd probably be getting that chance by now.

With Darren Dreger. So it sounds like Brad Marshann is going to make his debut ideally on Friday night, I think in Utah. Any word on Matthew Kachuk? I haven't heard anything on his front. Are they still hoping he's available for game one? Obviously, that's what they'd like, but is there any reason to believe that may not happen? No.

Well, I don't know that as we're having this conversation. That is the hope. But when the diagnosis was initially made and even Florida came out and said, okay, well let's see how it plays out. He may not be that long. The information I got without having specifics to the diagnosis was he is going to be a while. And a while isn't just week to week.

It was longer than that. And so it pushed a little bit and I said well you hope for the playoff? Said yeah that was the message that I got was hopeful for the playoff so I don't think that anything has changed there, I really don't but it does give them the luxury of Marchand coming in in the mix here as early as Friday to test some things, right? Because I can guarantee you if Paul Maurice looks down at his game sheet and he's got going into game one a healthy compliment of Matthew Chuck and Brad Marshan and Sam Bennett

and Barkov and all these pieces that he can use, I don't think he has a full read on how that's going gonna fit and piece it together. So if Marshawn is able to go as early as Friday as we're reading about, then I think that gives the head coach and the staff there a little bit of time to figure out the chemistry of how he's gonna fit into the mix. Well, and I guess we'll circle back to the Leafs on the way out. We were talking about the bottom six and then piecing it together. Max Petruetti is a name that comes and goes and sometimes these people are mocking him

into the lineup and other times they're like, what's the point? Other pad. Yeah, like he's skating on the other ring. I'm curious about this guy because i think i think they can find value in it like if he's healthy they can find value in them but yeah to me he feels like a guy that can't just show up game one of the playoffs

like i i think he's got to play a few games before you get to the playoffs do you know do you think they'd be comfortable like let's say game one this guy's he's just he's been load managing since the four nations any he's ready to go and he tells Borubi I can play do you think they would find a spot for him or would they slow play him into the playoffs? I don't think so Brian I think they'd put him in there if he's healthy and ready to play again look at what your bottom six looks like and especially your your fourth line like why did you sign him in the first place if you didn't look at this bottom six looks like and especially your fourth line.

Like why did you sign him in the first place if you didn't look at this scenario as being a plausible situation? Like I'm sorry but you know when I look at the bottom six I can pull out a couple of wingers there that if a healthy Max Petoretti is healthy that I think he's better than they are. You know, at the end of the regular season or certainly into the playoffs,

but it's been quiet on that front. It really has. And you know, we're into that load management time of year, right? Like, I mean, uh, we'll see what Toronto, I don't think they're going to have the luxury of doing it because you're still very much in divisional battle. But when you've got pieces like that you know I mean Pat Toretty when when he's healthy and he's firing on all cylinders I mean he has the ability to be a difference maker game to game maybe not every game but game to game so if they feel like okay let's just keep pushing and get him as healthy as we can. If it's game one or it's five games left in the regular season, I think they'd

be happy to welcome him back. Yep, for sure. All right, Drex, I'm not saying goodbye this time. You can just go. Just put him on hold. No comments on the way out. No more. You're not allowed to speak anymore. Okay, sorry buddy. Sorry. All good. Thanks Drex. There's Derek Dreger, TSN hockey insider joining us here on the Maple Toyota Hotline.

Drive the built-in Canada fuel-efficient, fun to drive Toyota RAV4. Gas or hybrid models available. Visit mapletoyota.com. Yeah, I mean ideally you have patch ready as an option. I just don't know how reasonable it is I mean the guy Hasn't played now in weeks and if he's available to you that you can you can sneak him into some games near the end Of the season then you're you know, I do that for sure for sure But I would put that time limit on him like you got to play a couple games, you know

I got to see what you got here Before you get to the playoffs all right role play level of concern coming up and again the Leafs are out in California. We'll start looking ahead to that. We'll get into Alfonso Davies tearing his ACL and what his agent had to say about Jesse Marsh and the men's national team. This one is spicy. 15 months out from the World Cup on home soil. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050N on the TSN app. You can never, ever ask me to stop drinking.

You understand? I do. I really do. All right, role play level of concern. We haven't played role play in a while, it's always great for it to be a part of the rotation, right? Always great for it to be a part of the rotation. And we've got a number of people that we're going to be playing the role of here in a number of scenarios, and we all know what it's like. Pine on the patio, no concern, Nick Cage leaving Las Vegas, nuclear

levels of concern and then whatever you want in the middle. Alright? Oh, you're playing the role of John Tortorello. John Tortorello. Dude, you don't even have to say one more word and we can play the music, but go ahead. Alright, well I was going to ask you, what's your level of concern? You won't be in Philly next season play a concern for you i think it just gets to a point where this has been going on for a couple of years use scratching young players your your do you had your thing with Couturier. And I know Drake said, is standing in the organization,

being involved with high-end meetings and high-end decision making and all that. But I think it all comes to an end at some point, where it's like the young players, it might be best for everybody to just say, check, please, and let's go in a different direction. You got to at least entertain the idea.

Does he want to continue down this path? I don't think he does. I think he's like, you know what, what is he? He's got to be close to 60 years old. Oh yeah. I think he probably is north of 60, one with the lightning over 20 years ago. Yeah. So he's got to be thinking I'd like one more crack at a competitive team, but this isn't for me. So I would be shocked if he's their coach next year. And I wouldn't even think he'd want to be, to be honest with you, which is a scary proposition.

I think he's there. I think he's a pint on the... I think they laid out a plan, and he's part of that plan. And they brought in young players, and he's hard on them to help them get to the next level. He knew exactly what he signed up for. I know, but Noodles, when you got a hockey team that goes out there and literally, I understand it's like a rebuild, you got rid of guys, not one guy's playing good. Like, Owen Tip, it was great last year. I think he scored 30 goals. Didn't even, I haven't

noticed him for a month. Like what, connect me connect me like nobody's not one guy's playing good. How could that be concerned is that's on the coach or maybe they maybe the players could play a little bit better. I guess I watched the goalies playing dodgeball. That doesn't help. That doesn't help. But the players are going to win this though. You know it management.

They invest in the players. They need the players to get them out of this. The coach. Okay. this though, you know it. Management, they invest in the players. They need the players to get them out of this. The coaches are going to do it. Okay, so let me ask you this. You put in, name a coach. Jim Montgomery there, Craig Berube, that team plays different. John Tortorello is a whole team of coaches. I'm not talking about a guy coming in and I respect the track record Torz has. I just think it's probably gotten to a point where it's like, this has been miserable for us, it's been miserable for you,

maybe there needs to be some kind of thing, some kind of change to take the flyers into a new direction. I don't disagree with that. I just don't think that that's this summer. Like you don't get a new coach and go, oh, okay, all of a sudden this team's a playoff team. That team is bottoming out.

That team's going to be garbage next year, too. I've had buddies in the coaching industry, what do you think about taking over? And I was like, I give my honest thoughts of stay away from that organization. You want to go in there and be a part of that mess, then you're just associated with it and you're known as a crap coach. But I don't think the organization is a mess. I just think they're in a rebuild. This is what rebuilds look like.

San Jose's gone through it. Chicago, who would you rather have right now? Chicago, San Jose, or Philadelphia in a rebuild right now? I got to be honest, I take San Jose. I take San Jose every day of the week right now They're yeah, San Jose can land that Schaeffer kid and they can find and they while the Russian carry price He's ten years away from being ten years away But Russian carry price I just I I agree with you Oh, I think they're gonna head in a different direction and he might put his arm up and say check please as well

I was talking about it withggs on the panel last night, like when is Travis Koneckni, who's a guy that's a competitive guy, he wants to, like when is Sennheim, like what do those guys say? Am I ever going to be on a flyer? When am I going to be on a flyer team that's going to be in the playoffs and we got a chance to win? Because your career is only so long, man. You're lucky to play 10 years in that league.

So. Well, and those are the guys that tortorella needs on his side right because like that's that's what I think is possibly you know risky here and I we don't know what's happening behind the scenes but that's where tortorella will lose it and and briere and Jones have to step in if the veteran guys are like i can't listen to torts anymore like i can't listen like yes we stink we get it you know like stop yelling all the time or whatever it is that's where they may just say okay it's a mercy like his tortorello is a guy like all every coach is hired to be fired you know every coach but torts he is a guy that he he he gets it done in the two or three years like Darrell Sutter and others where it's like right poke the button

You know you hit the button you do what you're supposed to that's what makes this just so weird that he's even there Like they're like they're tanking you know and John tortorella is the coach it I'd never thought he'd just doesn't make sense to me No, I know But I think they've got some young like some pretty good young players They're like that meets scoff that Forster brink, you know, you look at like they're all like 22 years Yeah, like they're but they're you know, dry So they got to make sure you get those guys playing the right way and that's I think that's what he's there for is to

To through the lean years. I don't I just that the question was will he be there next year okay i think i have a patio i think i am not next i may not be nick cage but i i would be somewhere in the middle but i do know if you're playing the role stand bomb and gm of the oilers your level of concern letting holloway and broberg walk is going to haunt you for years and edmonton i know my answer, but go ahead. I'm six beers and a shot of vodka.

Minimum Stevie Caldwell. Play me Stevie Caldwell. I know it's Noodles answers, but give me Stevie Caldwell. What's Stevie Caldwell? I call him Westies and five or six beers. That's what it should have been. Yeah, Stevie Caldwell. He's not worried about the beers. That's what it should have been. Yeah, Stevie Colwell. Because he's not worried about the future.

He's worried about this year and next year, the next couple years where he's got his top players in their prime. Haunt you for years to come? I don't know. But these guys could help you right now, Stan. That's the point. Why couldn't they match one of them? Why was it

neither both or not like one of hollow where you say i'm gonna keep this guy yet no i listen i like all the way and i like bro bird but i'd at the end of the day they made the decision not to but i don't think it haunts them you know to a point where two years from that like like he's more worried about this year and next year i think you know because if, because if they don't do it, that's where change comes in to probably change the goalie, they'll change other things.

But to me, I understand those players are better in the now and the future. Like I think Holloway is a, I think Robur is a guy who's... Well, of course they're playing well. It's recency bias. That's what it is. Guy got four assists, four points last night and Holloway's got 24 goals. That's what it is. I got four assists five four points last night and hollow is got 24 goals You could absolutely use them. But in the end you can't have everybody. You know what I mean? Like I do I hear you I hear you and it may not stand may not be the right guy

It might be Jeff Jackson. I think it was higher than him guys. Like I know I've said this before I if Ken Hollins there that doesn't happen. I'm sorry. I agree. I'm not sure Armstrong would have even done it if Hollins was there. Listen, those two are playing well and the Blues are playing well. They may face each other at some point in the playoffs. It's possible wherever they land in terms of wild cards and if they beat the top seed, that'll be a story.

All right. I'm playing the role of the men's national head coach jesse marsh was my level of concern that my relationship with alfonso davies is on ice uh... i'm not gonna say nick cage also a rick bushwood six bush light six blood light and i love them tall boys because this is the starting details of the out there so if you're not aware of this

alfonso davis he left the game against the americans the third place game he tore his he's torn his a c l so you got back to the bonus liga place for barry just got a big contract they're set atop the table in their league they're still the champions league he's a big part of their puzzle world cup starts in fifteen months he's torn as a, he's out for a long, long time. Right. Davies' agent spoke with Christian Jack and One Soccer, and let me find the quotes here,

because they are quite something in terms of where he places the blame. So he said his agent is Nidal Hussay, and he said this to One said this to one soccer He said quote Alfonso was not 100% after the Mexico game That was the original one on Thursday and it was planned that he was not going to start against the USA On Saturday night. The expectation was he would not be in the starting 11 as a captain I feel he was pressured to start the game by the coach Alfonso is not the kind of guy to say no to these moments. He ended up playing and look what happened, end quote. I mean, these are inflammatory accusations, comments.

And let's clarify something. This guy speaks for Alfonso Davies. So anyone saying, well, his agent popped up, no, he didn't. He got this from Davies. And I think it I think he would never go out on his own and make these comments without consulting with his client. Like Davies takes a lot of pride. He's the captain of the team. He's Canadian, he's the face of Canadian soccer.

The world cup's coming here in 15 months. And I think, and I know I'm not playing the role of Jesse here. I guess I am. I'll play the role of Jesse Marsh. I've been around for a long time. Pick up the phone and call me if you, if and call me if that's the issue we have. If this is Davies saying this guy, I felt uncomfortable or I shouldn't have been playing and I felt like I had to step up because of the rah-rah speech or whatever, or if there's some indication

and his agent continues to say it later that because Marsh, an American, was playing the US, he felt like I got to put my best team out there and i really want to win selfishly which again is a huge that's that's an inflammatory accusation as well i just say one thing about the idea of a we live in a world now where the players are so soft in any league in any sport and it is nothing we are seeing goalies pull the pin on a nightly basis. We are seeing goalies that say, don't play me too much. I don't want to do this. We're seeing guys that say, I need a week rest.

I don't feel right. We live in an era right now where the players are just like, don't, you're not telling me this is a big game I need to play. I'll tell you when I'm ready to play. So I'm not buying that the coach pressured this guy into playing. The player can always say, I'm not playing. I'm not putting my career at stake because you're telling me it's a big game. I had Peter Lavie let's say to me one time, you have a torn labum in your shoulder?

He's like, so do I. And I'm like, yeah, Lavie, you move pox around on the ice. I got to play the game. Exactly. Exactly. It's the era of player empowerment. And you're right. I've like, nobody is telling Alfonso Davies what to do. No. Right? Like the player has the, he has the king daddy topper. He's like, yeah, I got

to do it. I got to, I got to put it on the line for the boys of the country or whatever." Or he says, I'm not doing it. Absolutely. Yeah. And he would have had discussions with his agent about playing. He would have had whatever people are in his circle. So I'm not buying the fact that the coach forced anybody to play. And I don't think, from what I've heard from the coach, from what we've talked to him watching

him on TV, I don't think he's that kind of guy that would force anybody to do anything they didn't want to do. No one's forcing anyone to do anything on an international break for the Nations League. No kidding! This was the World Cup final. I agree. Yes, it was a big moment. They're trying to compete. They're trying to beat the Americans, of course. And Davies is a big part of that program. And it's incredibly unfortunate. When the dust settlesles this guy's injured

and he's gonna miss the rest of the season and you really question what happens with the program going forward but this program has taken so many hits and there's been so many issues between the players and the staff and the canadians and drones and business and how much money they get paid all this kind of stuff and it it's it it just it couldn't be a worse possible relationship to be on ice. Davies and Marsh.

And again, his agent, who I'm not familiar with, he said what he said, but for me, then he's speaking on behalf of Davies. And if I think Davies, if he doesn't like what he said, he should fire this guy immediately. And if he likes what he said, then he should put his name on it too. Like step up and say, this is what I think. This is how it went down. I know he's recovering right now,

but it drives me crazy when agents come out and speak on behalf of players. Like it's your life, it's your career. You speak on it. Like if you don't like it, or what, you know, and I'm sure Marsh and him have connected, I'd be shocked if they haven't since this comment came out and since the intro This is one where honestly Jesse Marsh should probably fly to wherever he is you got to meet with this guy

Like you got a you got to get there Immediately and you got to sit down with them and you got out you got to ice this over you got to figure this Out because you can't have her hovering over the program Well, what though These are serious accusations. It is, but it's kid gloves. Like you said, no, today's athlete isn't doing anything they don't want to. That's just what we witness it all the time.

There's too many people in their camp. It's the agents, it's the families, it's the friends. It's gone are the years where we would go away to a team and it's just us solo calling home to our parents the next day or whatever and going, hey, this is what's kind of going on here. Everybody now has their agents and their family involved in every decision they make. They're like their own little brand. So I agree.

Oh, like I think, you know, to me it's huge allegations and the agents stick, it's right in there but... Oh immediately. Dust doesn't even, barely out of surgery and it's coach pressured him, he shouldn't have been playing and someone told me in the camp, now what, he's got a mole in the camp that's leaking information to him about why he thought Davies wasn't going to play or wasn't supposed to be in the starting eleven. Bad luck man, that's a bad luck. Yeah, it just, it sucks, Davies wasn't gonna play or wasn't supposed to be in the starting 11

Yeah, just you know it sucks like it's a Davies got hurt It's a bad injury and he's incredibly important part of the program in the future But they're trying to build on positivity the Copa America. They just beat the Americans third place Jesse Marsh is getting out He's hitting the pounding the pavement trying to speak on behalf of this program and now you know this this kind of stuff that you know some idea or intimation that he was pressuring him to play man I mean that's that that is a that's harsh and if there is any truth in it then Marsh is gonna have to answer for that right like if he was for whatever reason putting pressure on him he's gonna have the answer for that but Man, this is gonna be spicy 15 months away from the World Cup down at BMO field and we got this hanging over us already

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