OverDrive - OverDrive - March 28, 2024 - Hour 1

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' defeat to the Sharks, the close performance in the game, Joseph Woll's subpar performance in the crease, Brad Marchand's debut with the Panthers and the close race towards the Stanley Cup Playoffs. They also discussed John Tortorella's dismissal with the Flyers and the Blue Jays' start of the season against Baltimore.

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This Hour of Overdrive is powered by FanDuel. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Alright, here we go, Overdrive, off and running. TSN 1050 on the TSN app, your speaker and up on TSN to Brian Haseo Doug Jeff O'Neill Jamie noodles McClennan and best buddies there two best buddies was that today that you guys were golfing two best buddies Yeah, last week. We were out there. It was quite the you know what here's I'm glad you brought that up Because I've lost a lot to this guy in golf.

But I have never lost to him when taking a face off. I have never lost to him when it comes to the real deal holy field of dropping a puck or dropping a TP5, whatever it happens to be. Doogie, get my career face-off percentage because I would bet money that in my NHL career, I was over a 50% guy. I bet you were too. Right-handed shots. You got me, Hazy.

I got you. I actually tried too. I actually tried and it was like, maybe the Leafs need some of your desperation at Taylor Made Golf the face-off dot Well, I don't know valid or they gotta get some p7 90s at the California and start using them in a shootout or something Or maybe Joseph wall could have used one last night And maybe hit a little wedge over the glass instead of off some guy shin padded in last night was Yeah, and sanity that was Marc-Andre Flurry. That's right. At the World Juniors.

Yeah. Scottie, who? Patrick O'Sullivan. Patrick O'Sullivan, yes. Yeah. I don't think they can do it again. He had O'Sullivan looked around and couldn't believe it was in and then he had the audacity to fist pump the goal too of Sullivan Day.

You go back and look at the celebration, you think he went end to end. It was a big moment. It was the turning point of that game in effectively ended up closing it for the americans against canada but uh... yeah this these sounds a sharks manage vintage when they play the leaves you know it is it's almost like they're going through the shark tank in twenty-ten was you know that was a saying no like i

i have a serious to all of that I get it. There's mistakes. But I don't think he could do it again if he tried. Just the angle of the left skate, it hits, rolls in. I don't know. It was insanity. I thought there were challenges for kicking. Wasn't there a distinct kicking motion? No.

Would you even call that? I'd be so embarrassed to challenge that. You think of cheating. Oh, you know what? Everything else. How about these challenges you guys? Like ever since those guys met in Florida with the monitors, every goal is like razor thin and there's challenges all over the place. It's crazy man. That's the Calgary Flames. People's heads are going to pop off in Calgary last night like. And Montreal too. They're not happy about last night Brendan Gallagher's freaking out after the game and you're right ever and everyone's on edge, right?

Calgary lost Montreal lost they're in a race for the playoffs. So absolutely they're on edge right now and they need everything to break their way The Leafs are should not be on edge, you know, I guess they should be to an extent because they're chasing something But that is twice and in two weeks. they've lost to the worst team in the league, which is very difficult to do both times in a shootout. And obviously can't happen, obviously not acceptable. But I will say, this may surprise some people, silver lining, credit them for at least getting a point dude. I was kind I want I will say that such a chicken I wanted to feel you out first because I that was my thing. I'm like, you know what?

there are some goofy things going on and somebody I Like who knows how accurate these people on Twitter are but like Tampa and Florida don't have the best record against bad teams either But they scrounge something out of that man. Maybe that's something they need at the end of the line. What's a hell of a play by Marner by the way like everyone I'd say 99 percent of the league just tries to take a wrist shot there does. Oh yeah. That pass. Oh yeah for sure. And even Willie maybe 95 percent of the league one-timed that into someone's skate or shin pad. He kind of got it, composed himself, and found the twine.

But I know this. I know what's coming. Okay? I understand what's coming is that negative Leaf fans, which I understand why you're wired that way. I get it. A lot of times I see the world the way you see the world. Non-Leaf fans will come at me and say here we go Homer Hayes blah blah blah all right

I'm not saying it's acceptable to ever lose to San Jose obviously, but the one at home two weeks ago is Exponentially worse than last night because they were up to nothing on home ice You had to close that game, and they pissed away that point last night. They had a bad start You know credit the Sharks to fullyafoli's been a leaf killer. I told you yesterday that was my best bet. I said it's coming. Tafoli's going to score tonight. He scored two.

And I thought Celebrini was really good last night. But still it's not acceptable but if you're down 5-3 with a minute to go and you find a way to get a point, every point is going to matter here the rest of the way like a florida's plant tonight tampa just destroyed utah last night the path is probably beat up on the hockey club tonight so it's going to be a race but it was a minute away from being worse that it was at last and i think i have a point

yes they got a point so it is silver lining your line in your ears a question for if they'd missed the playoffs art sort of missed the playoffs if they Yeah, at least they got a point. So silver lining, you're right. Silver lining, at least they got a point. Here's a question for you. If they miss the playoffs, I'm sorry, miss the playoffs, if they miss first place by one point. That was nuclear. Holy. Sorry, sorry. That's nuclear.

I misspoke. I misspoke. I meant if they missed first place by one point. We always do this and I do this all the time. Because I call Ottawa games or you're looking at Montreal, you're looking at Calgary, all these teams that are battling for it. I know for a fact the fan base is if they come short, come up short somewhere, they go, do you remember that game in November?

Do you remember this? Now you're right, they got a point last night. So they end up winning the Atlantic by one point. Maybe you go, damn, that comeback. That's right. That comeback in the last. Now, if they lose it by one point, do you go, what did they, how were they doing twice against that team? Or is there other, another game that can walk you in your mind?

I think you just sum it up like this. The other one's the Preds. I'll just get out in front of them before you say anything. The other one's the Preds. Like that's the two of the three worst teams in the league. They've thrown away four points in two weeks I guess it's frustrating for people everybody watching because every other night you watch Kara and Lindsay on Sports Center and it's Blue 7 Nashville 1 Blue 7

San Jose 1 and every other team goes in there and cleans their clock and then it's like your team goes in there And it's like what they lost the game. Are you kidding me? But as far as last night they dug down and they got a point They can really make that worth it if they go into Los Angeles and win that hockey game Yeah, and then you got Anaheim the next one Yeah, I don't even know if you can even say that's a layout you can't Anaheim's been better and they've been better at home You can have a believe what the Leafs do with better and they've been better at home. You can. You can't. Have the Leafs had tough times in Anaheim too?

Yeah. Well, the Leafs do with bad teams. It's not a layup. But make the point count tomorrow against LA in rebound and try to get two off a really good team at home that never loses at home. Well, that's what I thought about last night before I went to bed at 1.40 a.m. or whatever the hell it was. Is they'll win in LA and then lose in Anaheim just to piss people off because that's what they do.

They'll have a great showing against a really great team and you're like, okay, hey, and then the next night it's like, that show output. We're going to have these swings down the stretch. California is, it used to be murderers row. It's not, but it's still a pain in the ass to go through time change, all of that quick in and out. Like it's not, it's not the layup we expect it to be. I'm not lying, like I was laying there last night yawning at one o'clock in the morning

and these guys are trying to get a point right last night of like when to fully made a Five three my finger was on the Off button. I was in bed. He hit the post of the empty net or two My routine on a West Coast game is first two periods downstairs and third period upstairs And if it's time to shut it I shut it and I'm sitting there and to fully makes it 5-3 and my my finger is twitching I'm like shut it gone there's no way and the only thing that stopped me wasn't the Leafs it was the Sharks I'm like the Leafs can still come back and win this game and sure enough Tavares in his office goes to the net tips one in Willie with a it's 42, like Willie's up to 42.

It's not as extreme as it was last year, but Willie is Austin. Like William Nylander's this year's version of what Matthews was a year ago. Those were the goals Matthews scored last year. He scored the two in San Jose, he scored the one with 10 seconds left or whatever to tie it. It's just reversed. Now, you could add 27 more goals or whatever. Matthews did it more last year

willie has played that role he's the closer for this team in terms of offense and the guy that gets them on the sheet quick like he did last night the guy that gets them in overtime and then the overtime was crazy uh... and then they they get into a shootout in joseph wall who had an opportunity there to kinda save himself yeah shootouts are i get it skills competition whatever but he didn't make a stop and Joseph Wall who had an opportunity there to kind of save himself. Yeah.

Shoot out sir, I get it, skills competition, whatever, but he didn't make a stop and the rest is history. And after the game, Barube was not happy with his team and this is not a Randy Carlisle okay, just okay moment, but a lot of times coaches will shield the goaltender and kind of not bring the goaltender into even the evaluation of the team. Right. Here's what Barube had to say about the group and Joseph Wall last night.

Well, they are a quick team, but I think that, you know, maybe the travel yesterday and everything, you know, we just weren't on our toes. We got better as the game went along, you know? We knew we made some mistakes. We all gotta be better, goalie included. You know, it's not good enough. 100% accurate.

100% accurate. I don't think there's anything wrong with what he said, how he said it. All of it. All of honesty. The one thing you get from Craig Barube is he doesn't, like, there has been, and I think this is his Transition into leaf land where it's like yeah that that players day-to-day and they know that Gostin's in Germany's like yeah

I may play tomorrow like that that has been programmed into him. That's from the organization But from Craig Barube the coach that's what you get honesty goalie wasn't good enough We weren't on our toes like you know travel all of that like i i think he was bang on it in his assessment like there was nothing wrong with that well and it listen walls to start again like stores is going back to back this weekend yeah so he's playing in anaheim

and this is where you know they didn't make them available to the media after the game i i think that's uh... i'm torn on that i don't think it's the end of the world hope i'm sure that's the same torn on that if a guy stinks in the net put them out there should save for it he should speak there's not a lot of media on the road it's not going out there when he's great they went out of awesome smiling laughing or whatever you're ready to have a better like calling more cow

the guy loses bay hill he's like that like, I got no time for anybody. Get lost. If he ever wins again, everyone should just walk out and write their own report. Screw it. Don't listen to him. Yeah. I think this is them trying to protect him. I think that's what this is.

Hayes, it's the NHL dude. He's an NHL goalie and a grown ass man. Protect him from what? Goalies are treated differently. They always have been. You know that in your career it's you know goalies they look at goalies differently they treat them differently and he's fragile right now and I think the concern is that goal you know I you don't want to

make a mountain out of a molehill but that's one that can hang around you like that's that's one well you know it's like the yips almost that can freak you out the next time he comes out to play the puck noodles Yeah, no, it's in his head. Well, you know like that's a little last night that you're on list, right? Like what happens if we say it all the time like you're on Lindsay and Kara's or whoever's working sports center absolutely you're on a top 10 list and they're gonna go top 10 own goals And it's Marc Andre Fleury and it's Joseph Wall and we're gonna see you know I was Lena Salmer and who was a Alex Lyon or Kam Talbot I can't remember I've been in so many cities

but one of the goalies had a mess behind the net last night and I mentioned I'm like I remember myself giving away a puck behind the net to Todd Marchand who was playing for the Oilers at the time and he just stuffed in the net. It's embarrassing. And then you're on a list. Joseph Wall made a list last night and it sucks, but you're right. You do second guess when you get out there going, I can't dink around here. I'm not going to make that extra play. Now, Wall handles the puck better than I ever did, so I think you'll be fine.

But in a vacuum, he was a lot more cautious getting out of the net the rest of the game I'll be honest. Absolutely he was and he probably will be the next time and yeah I don't know Nudels you can speak on this, you know Like goalie like I'm a believer if you're a veteran and something happen outside of extreme circumstances where something Crazy might take place. We'd say let that guy just breathe I think most veterans have to come out like my captain's gotta come out and speak veterans again at morgan riley should be speaking at center at center goalies you know he's not

technically a rookie still a young goalie trying to find his way but the last two games of an ugly form last night in particular was was an embarrassing night form and i'm curious how you think they should have handled that poski i think here's what it because i'll be honest his comments after his last game was like ah you know you take away some lessons and stuff like that to do it two games in a row it's a little bit tougher

so I think they probably erred on the side of caution because exactly the focus is going to be on the loss and on the goal against the one goal so there's nothing if he comes out and tries to be positive and goes, Hey, I'm going to take a lesson I'm going to do, you know, say all the cliche things. There's nothing positive he can get out of that. So I think they probably made an executive decision to go, you know, no news is is not good news. It's just we'll keep them out of the information cycle. He's already going to be in it. So if he had played really well last game, it's not a big deal but he

he didn't have the best game in his last and he came out with all of those comments i i'm gonna learn from this even in a loss was that his comments even in you know loss i'd learned to get better and all of that that was all the cliches last game now you come out with another bag of cliches last night he started his time so i i i i i understand it all last game. Now you come out with another bag of cliches last night. It's tough. So I understand

and oh, you know, they're grown men to make a lot of money. I get it. That's my point, Jamie. Like I just think that this talk is crazy to even think that a grown ass man in the best league in the world, there's not a better league in the world. And it's like I didn't play that good. So please don't talk to me about that's crazy rather than the best advice I ever got from I'm ever got from, I'm biased, but the best PR guy who's one of my best friends told me, disarm people with the truth. You go out there and say, I didn't play well, I need to be better. That's it. And you move on. To me, that's where people go, yeah, you didn't have your best, but we can't wait till you do have your best. Like that's the, I think the minute you start running from it or not available and all that,

it leads to people talking about it even more as opposed to we're running a sound bite today from Wal going, hey, I screwed up on that play. I need to be a lot better. Right. Yeah, exactly. And it would be probably over where now they're going to get to LA and he's going to speak, you would presume or at some point he'll speak and it will likely come up again. But Stollers are going tomorrow and Wall will play Sunday in Anaheim.

And listen, he wasn't alone. You know, he gives up five and then in the shootouts, shootouts are separate, I guess, a separate analysis. But there were a couple of goals where he had to have them. You know, I thought early in the game there were a couple where he had to have them. But his team did not help him. And there, you know, I thought again, Austin Matthew there were a couple where he had to have him but his team did not help him And there you know, I thought again Austin Matthews got better as a game went on not good enough to start the game Like an 18 year old Macklin Sellebrini can't be pushing you into your zone all night And that was happening a lot last night and that's that's just not good enough. He's so good, but he's 18

I guess 18 and he's learning his way and he's a really good player, but I looked at that top line. I didn't think they had anything going the first 30, 40 minutes. On the power play there was some dancing and they were doing their thing at times, although they were out there. I thought somewhat lazy on the shorthanded goal and Barube got them off right afterwards. Like the second he gave up that shorty, 15 seconds in he said, get out. They put the second unit out

But Matthews and company and Marner not good enough last night But you know you also you look at whether or not with ten games to go They're gonna tinker at all with the with the with the roster You know and what's gonna happen with the peripheral players, which are not the end of the world discussions But can be in certain moments, you know, Simone Benoit He pinches last night when three guys are deep Doesn't keep the puck in which is Completely unacceptable

He's been pulling some pucks out of the cage lately Yes like this play for a sixth defenseman in the National League you you keep that in with your teeth if you have to like you cannot flub that puck and jump and get beat you just you cannot do it and he did Robertson you know a couple lazy plays on the puck takes a lazy stick penalty boom they score on it like that's the thing it's not just the big boys the big boys are gonna play and they're gonna have to redeem themselves and they're gonna have to drag this team forward kind of options are you talking about if Ben Wall comes out well Myers? I should go in tomorrow night

Yeah, but I got I don't I'm not saying Philippe Myers is the second coming of Adam foot He's not and I don't even and maybe they're set on Benoit being the guy and they're just gonna let him run with it They wanted to learn from it, but I think that's dangerous to just say you're the like he's a six seven Benoit that's what he is like he shouldn't be a lock to be in the lineup. Wouldn't you want to get Myers some playing time? He hasn't played in a couple of weeks. I think there is. If you go back, I'm of the belief, I don't know how you guys feel, if a guy has an off

night, it doesn't, you don't immediately pull him from the roster. But Benoit has had some stumbles as you guys have mentioned. Weeks. So it's not, this is a trend. So a reset, allowing another guy to jump in there, put Ekman Larson back on the left side, have Myers on the right. I have no problem with that. I think it's probably what is going to happen. But it has to be methodical. If they believe that Benoit is, if they were starting the playoffs and everybody was playing their capabilities and they believe that he is part of that lineup, then their thought process might be to let him work through it and say,

hey, you know, we need more from your game, lull in this stretch right here. But I don't, for a guy like that, for him to sit one night, I don't think it's going to be the end of the world. Not the end of the world Exactly and that that happens in the playoffs too, right? You put in a sixth defenseman is interchangeable You have a two bad games or you don't like things or the kill isn't great or whatever They change, you know, that's gonna have like the five guys are playing which is a rarity somewhat of a rarity for this team you know over the over the years there was generally a Five six seven eight defenseman type combination where you weren't quite sure what Keefe was going to do. The five guys, if they're healthy, they're playing and you know it.

And so it really is about one defenseman and how interchangeable the two guys are. It's between Benoit and Philippe Myers. But yeah, you got a big one tomorrow night. You got a big one and it's, you know, crunch time here. Now all of a sudden Florida is the one with the game at hand. That happens quickly. They got Utah at home. Brad Marshand's making his debut tonight.

And he's playing on a line with Sam Bennett. And I am quite curious to see what that looks like. I worry that they try too much to be like that. Sometimes you have to let things. They've been around long enough where they know they just can't go out there and be the Hanson brothers for crying out loud. But it is, you guys see it all the time.

Somebody wants to make an impression and they're going to defer to this guy or defer to that guy. You're right, they're veteran guys who just go out and play. But in a heated battle, whoever's facing them has to have their head up in scrums and head up everywhere because those guys, if they want to play for keeps, they might not play for keeps on a Friday night in March, but they'll play for keeps a month from now. Absolutely. Will Kachuk play on that line?

Is that the plan? I don't know. I could see it. I could see a Kachuk-Bennettann line and maybe on top you got Reinhardt with Verhege and Barkov and move Rodriguez down and he's with Lundell and that could be the case. They've got some options there. They've got a lot of options in Florida. You're right about like I think Marshann it'll be

this will be a tougher this could be a a tough transition You know a lot of times naturally you just assume guys are gonna find their way He may he may Scott lot in this and credit to Scott lot and he scored last night I thought he played much better good for him awesome get off the Schneide You got yourself a goal, but this is uncharted territory for him All he knows is Boston 15 years coming off an injury They're going into someone else's room, it may not be that smooth. It could be. The Panthers are banking on it being smooth, but there's never any guarantee when you've

got a scenario like this one. I think he is a veteran guy who has probably played against or known these guys for years, so it could be the seamless transition for his personality. Guys will be like, hey, you're fine. Just you got to figure out the system, the way they want to coach the way they want to for check all of that. The guy who's impressed me in watching Florida is that Seth Jones has had a resurgence. Like he looks, he looks like he's skating better. They obviously, you know, you look back on it, they knew the eggplant thing was coming down the pike.

So they make that move. Right. But it just like Jones looks and they're playing him a ton. And out of Chicago, he just seems like he has a Chicago might be the old Buffalo, where if you give a guy a glimmer of hope and he's got a chance to compete for a cup in the playoffs and it's not just misery. That's right. Again. So so that's right. I'm thinking maybe Marshan breathes some life into, you know, what's going just misery. That's what you're going to get. So that's why I'm thinking maybe Marchand breathes some life

into what's going on there. I ran into the Boston Bruins staff this morning in Detroit. I guess they must be there tomorrow. But they were at the gym and at the hotel and stuff, and I was chatting them up. Boston's heading in a different direction. They're in one, and it's you know, Boston's heading in a different direction. They're in one and it's not, you know, it's not good. It's ugly losses.

Like, that's what, you know, you can lose, but we always talk about the dignified, hey, you lose three, two and you battle and maybe you just don't have enough that night. And some of their losses have been significant. Yeah, they're getting pumped. And blown out of the building and pumped. Yeah, what did you make of that Detroit team last night, Noodlez? Weren't they supposed to be scratching like Nobody wants the second wild card spot like nobody

Pierre Lebrun tweeted out the like the last 10 games of these teams. It's all Horrendous like the Habs lost to Philly lot. We're chasing the game the whole night last night Detroit they were down what three nothing at one point noodle yeah for one I think yeah for one too but it was like who none of the like eighty three points might get you in the way these teams are playing right now that's why I think the Rangers are getting 83 I'm being a little bit sarcastic but dude they're like the Hab they have ten games left the Habs are the pace card seventy five points none of them are getting to 90 not like the habit of ten days left the habs or the pace card seventy five points none of them are getting to ninety not like that all of our not get fifteen of the last twenty two points i don't

see it you know i i don't see that happening i i i i think the it's eighty seven to eighty eights may yeah he well depending on i mean i don't have the i should but i don't have the schedule do they play each other? Well, there's gonna be some turnover right with the because a lot of these are divisional opponents

But like right here Lebron tweeted this out earlier today Yeah, the race for eighth in the east is begging for a team to control record in the last ten the Habs Three three and four the Islanders four three and three the Rangers three six and one Columbus two seven and one Detroit three and seven like none of them are the islanders are four three and three you'd think that was the yeah You know the eight 1980 Islanders compared these other It's gone shows it is crazy and and you're you're seeing these teams But you know some of them went on their heaters, and they're having that market correction I I thought st. Louis was gonna have a market correction

They found a way to win last night your boy Dylan hallway again turn the game cookies 20 Yeah, okay, he turned the game around guys a hell of a player and in winter. I know I called it on Trade Center last year somebody should have Sort of offer sheeted him and they did you know less than three million dollars which is crazy which is crazy what I mean he's a contract he's a great player and and man Edmonton got pumped last night in Seattle too like they were no good last night was not a good scene so MJ coming up Mike Johnson just after five Jonas Segal our buddy Jonas is in

LA at Leaves practice So he'll join us a little bit later in the hour. He's in the building last night his take on what he saw live What does he make of the postgame? You know the reaction from Barube Joseph Wall not speaking what we can expect the next two days They're in LA tomorrow Anaheim on Sunday Jay's back in action tonight trying to keep the ball in the park Kevin Gosman's on the mound what the hell was going on there six home runs they gave up yesterday noodles that is an American League record for opening day hi I had a horse eye on that because I was right I run the air and I'm watching I honestly thought it was really seeing this guy

yesterday like oh they had another he goes oh actually they hit another one I thought it was a really good goes is that a replay no that's another one that's another one it was unbelievable it was a replay. Then he goes, is that a replay? No, that's another one. That's another one. Yeah. It was unbelievable to watch. Right field in particular, that bullpen out there, it was just like candy being dropped in it. Yeah.

It was ridiculous. They had that catcher in the bullpen that was jumping up and down every homer and he got a lot of exercise yesterday. He was very happy. Looked like a big crowd though opening day. Oh yeah. Always is opening day. A lot of people we knew down there said

You know well, it's a little bit lifeless. You know as of like by the third inning a game was effectively over And they're back in action tonight with Gosman on the mound old Charlie Morton on the mound Is that the same guy that's been around for yeah for 41 year old Charlie Morton? Yeah, he was supposed to retire like three years ago and then he hung on with the Braves That's right. That's right. He went through Tampa and the Braves Yeah, but now Baltimore's got him slotted as their number two starter. I love it old Charlie Dude, I'm telling you he might be 44 years old. He's 41. Yeah, he's probably my age You know, he's like 41 42 42. We gotta look this up.

Is Charlie Morton older than me? Yes, I would say yes. A million percent. I think he's 44 years old. We'll come back with an answer on that. We got Jonas later in the hour. Dear Hazy B this afternoon. Overdrive continues.

TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. All right, Jonas Segal coming up from LA. Leafs practicing right now ahead of the Kings game tomorrow. Jonas was at the Shark Tank last night. So catch up with Jonas a little bit later on. Mike Johnson still to come. Dear Hazy B. Cameron Mabin coming up as well.

You see Shohei Otani hit a home run, which was not opening, I guess it was opening day at Dodger Stadium, but they've already played two games in Japan. So. Waved at it? Yeah, just they've already played two games in Japan. So. Waved at it? Yeah, just look at that. Like I was watching it live,

and Pitcher like hung a, it was like a sinker that was just, and he barely swung, and it just flew. He just effortless, eh? Like it's just effortless with him. He's such a machine, and he works to count, like,

like the guys were talking about it last night, I think it was Carl Ravitch, and I don't know who the color guy was he was referencing like Babe Ruth the last time we saw someone with that presence and I'd have to push back that's a Jonas comment like these eyes I know Barry Bonds is like a poisonous name to mention because of Royce and stuff and as great as Otani is nothing touches Bonds in his prime in terms of just terror. But Otani's got that kind of vibe.

He's bigger than Bonds in terms of like his height, but he's got the big like elbow pad on and he just looks like you can't get him out. He's just terrifying and I'm not pitching. Is he like head and shoulders above everyone like best in his sport like is he better than everyone in baseball more than mcdavid is a hockey or i'm not sure i was i'm not sure that that's the case because now he is so good man like i think it's way better than everybody i think he i think he might be but let's

not forget Aaron judge is a guy that is capable of doing hitting sixty bombs and getting on face to face a lot. Yeah but is he stealing fifty bases? He is not stealing anything. Is he pitching? He's not pitching. I can't argue against that. You throw the pitching in there, it's almost unfair to compare Otani to anybody else.

It's not a fair fight, basically. So I guess from that standpoint I'm answering your question. The answer is yes, that he is the most dominant player because he hits home runs, he steals bases and he can pitch. And he's like 6'3", he plays with the Dodgers. He just looks like a stud. He's like the Japanese version of Roy Hobbs, the natural, like if you said like, give me a perfect baseball player, like it's just, he just got to look

about him, man. Yeah. And he's got to be with the Dodgers, man. Like it just, it has to be with the LA Dodgers. Yeah. Because he doesn't that Jersey in the hat and everything. It just suits them. Everything, everything about it it Dodger Stadium the the uniforms They're always the best team like it just it is a perfect fit god that guy's so good Imagine watching that guy like if you just retired and said I'm gonna just watch dodge I'm gonna go to Dodger Stadium though every day and watch right and you got to watch that lie And you're like I'm just going to watch show hang and watch him 40 times live Yes, Mary Hart right behind just hammer Corona's and sit back and watch this guy hit dingers and pitch every fifth day. He's a draw

He's a draw we went there wasn't he there here like last June or something on a weekend series right and Cracked one out on the Friday was wasn't supposed to play and then played and like well remember a couple years ago He was supposed to pitch here and he went to Detroit and ended up pitching it was they had a double header that day and he pitched the day game and then hit in the afternoon and then his arms started to flare up and then he came up here people were really bent out of shape because the thought was not only was he going to play here he was going to pitch here but because of the scheduling um and I think that was a couple years ago with the Angels and Blue J fans were not happy about that. The CEO of Bayern Munich not happy with Canada soccer, we'll tell you about that later this

hour. But this story won't die. This Alfonso Davies Canada soccer malpractice accusation just continues to kind of hover around the program. Then it's Davies that's pissed then Hayes like because this Like usually the owner of your club team would call you and say hey man this kind of sucks Let's get you better like yeah, Davey must be spitting out something other than This is just fine. I got to get better. He's pissed clearly. Yeah

Oh, I don't think there's any disputing that and he's not speaking his agent spoke and now the CEO of his club team has spoken I am he needs to Fonzo. He has to get out in front of this but now the CEO Sam Why was he on the plane not like he's calling literally like malpractice in terms of like the medical staff Like they didn't even check him out, you know They let him get on the plane with a torn ACL and I don't know how that would have worsened anything the plane with a torn ACL and I don't know how that would have worsened anything personally. Him getting on... Just the flight and things like swell... Blood thinners and stuff like that.

I guess so. I don't know either. But now that's the accusation. They're claiming maybe there's going to be a legal fight. Like they're going to sue Canadian soccer. It's like... Oh, come on. It's really getting to a point though where this is an international story and it's a

really bad look for Canada. And again, Alfon alfonso davies i hope takes all this into consideration and he needs to get out in front of all those uh... i just coming up from l a ahead of uh... lease kinks tomorrow lease talks in anaheim on sunday after losing six five in a shootout last night to the sharks jonas was there get his take on the game get his take on what could happen this weekend mike johnson still to come to dear Hazy B as well, and the Jays back in action tonight.

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i think karaoke and possibly trivia nights now alone area all over the bay area lots of trivia jonas masters in myrtle big night doing whatever they do, hammering beers, trivia, all of that stuff. Battleship, that's what they were doing. There was nothing else there.

Battleship, come on. Come on. Well, that's what they would be playing, yes. I think you get out of San Fran, you get to LA. Like San Fran, I don't think of as a nightlife place. No, the city's a dump now, but it used to be an unbelievable, unbelievable city. It's always kind of been. Let's rip on San Fran.

Let's put that on the list. Add them to the list. There's nothing but just bridges and fog, and that's it in San Fran. It used to be one of the most beautiful cities with a ton of stuff to do, and it's become a dump. I'm sorry, I've been there and it's been awful. You're there all the time, like making sure that you know what's going on in San Fran. beautiful cities with a ton of stuff to do and it's become a dump. I'm sorry. I've been there and it's been off. You're there all the time like making sure that you know what's going on in St. Frank?

I'm just telling you it's a dump. I feel bad for it because it's one of those cities that's had a tough run and it should be a lot better. It's had a tough run. It has. Yeah. I don't know when that was because I was there a decade ago and I don't mind St. Frank. I've been there a couple of times.

I've been talking in the last two years in three years it's a dump it's hard to a dump all take a look at your word for it i did i know you're all the same here is saying is that sir i thought i just said that i was there and i'm like oh my god what happened to the city of that used to be like the i'm telling one of the best cities in america great town great great town it's turned into a mess, unfortunately. Well, that is unfortunate. But I think if you're looking to party in California, LA is the place to be.

Now you go to LA. Yeah, you got to get to LA. LA for sure. So yeah, we'll catch up with Jonas here in a moment. Speaking of Myrtle, he tweeted out last night after the game, because there was a lot of ammo coming off of, you lose to the Sharks twice in two weeks. There's a lot of ammo there for people to jump on you and James tweeted out the Sharks have only they only have two wins against teams in a playoff position in their last 29 games

Both against the Maple Leafs So that well the sarcastic tweets were just myrtle was driving the bus of the sarcastic tweets last night yeah he was just wrapping up the leaf the leaf nation well they're chasing the game all night they're down quick they're down three i think one of them was just i think it just read this is embarrassing yeah i think i saw that one i think i saw that one and and listen it was at times last night like there's no question about that. And now they got to get back on the saddle against the Kings tomorrow. You get two quick games and you're coming home and Florida's waiting for you on Wednesday. So you got the Panthers coming up, you got 10 games left.

And you want to talk about embarrassing. Pittsburgh got pumped last night. Yet it was a celebration to an extent because Sid reached his point per game mark. So that's 20 seasons in a row with at least a point per game mark. So that's 20 seasons in a row with at least a point per game which is just a remarkable statistic that passes Wayne Gretzky most in NHL history. And they got shredded 7-2. They got smoked by Buffalo last night. Like 7-3 I think at one point it was 7-1 or 7-0. Yeah it was ugly. 7-1 I think. Sid's goal was 7-1.

And they celebrated that one. That's which sucks because you know, it's it's at that point when you're giving up a touchdown It's not good, right? He's Mike Trout with the Angels. Like that's what it's become now. You know It's Sid goes out and scores and he's gonna end up with a hundred points. He's on the Angels. I find it to be the most bizarre one of the most bizarre scenarios situations in the league where it's like, this is what we're going to do. We're going to act like we're a good team and we're going to go out and get absolutely pumped by everyone. Don't say nothing about anybody.

Sid's here, he's doing his thing. Don't even criticize the coach. He's still our coach, he's not going anywhere. Everyone just does what they do. And it's just like, what the hell is going on there? I find it to be bizarre, man. I think it's just a mandate and it's kind of like accepted like that. Noodles, a mandate for what? What organization has a mandate to say, let's fake like we're going to be good, have a bunch of old players and get shredded every night? I find it to

be ludicrous, man. I'm not saying the mandate from the outside, from us looking in. I'm saying internally, there's probably been some sort of mandate to Kyle from ownership going, give this group a run, try and add to it. Because you don't start adding Kevin Hayes and guys who are 32 and 33 to... Who the hell adds Kevin Hayes to some team that wants to be good? No disrespect to Kevin Hayes. He's at the end of the line.

So why are you adding him to what? Put you over the top? Sorry. Well, I know, but my point being is I think internally that that was the plan and at some point when Sid says, says, says check please, or he decides I will go along with this rebuild but they're gonna have to blow it up. They haven't yet and that's what I'm saying. Okay, so you've done it two years in a row where you've been god-awful.

Are you actually gonna go to training camp with that team and say we're gonna try again to be good come October? That would be the definition of insanity with the goaltenders, the way the whole team plays, all of it. It's nonsense. That's a big part of the issue is the goalies the whole state state of Pennsylvania Has the worst goaltending per state slash province all on earth I well I like that. There's not one good goalie of the bunch in the whole state. I owe

Both of you well not an apology but a correction because oh you called it on torts I was wrong on that one. I was like, ah, this guy's gonna be around in the next year. They'll keep Now you see the reporting that it sounds like him and yeah, there was an altercation York Yeah, I'm York and last night Shaw takes over behind a bench York's in full uniform didn't play a shift Yeah, you'd like to hear the whole like something happened there like Kevin cursor we had on yesterday with the athletic He's pretty tapped in and he tweeted out a source within the Flyers organization told him It's fair to say there was an altercation it wasn't physical but something went down between Tortorella and

And York and that quote unquote they both crossed the line so it it may have that that may have been what led to tortorella going right it may have been he was going at somebody on the bench during the game in toronto and it was to something with the i've i don't know what but something must have escalated where it got to players to management and danny brayer and and Jones he just had to say this is not enough That's exactly it's got to be because it looked like it his body language from about halfway through the game changed, right?

He just stood there like it was something something weird and and unacceptable happen guys We talked about it yesterday when you bring in torts with this team that but did you expect anything different? Like did you expect it to go any other way that there wasn't going to be some kind of blow up like that well this is not designed to be how he is a young group and re what what yeah that's how he is that's so it's like it is a guy why do you worry anyone surprised by that like you know what you're gonna get but he is it listen i think he's all famed coach i think he's a guy who's you know you look

at his wins you look at his record unfortunately fame coach i think he's a guy who's you know if you look at his wins you look at his record unfortunately the game has changed and you know he's a guy that is uh... the short life guy three years and that expiration date is in and and and the expiration date is hit you're right the team wasn't good enough he's trying to teach these young kids

young kids are different now and and the meets croft kid like you're teaching him in a different language though, too right, but he goes out there rips home a couple and And that that was always where I came at it from with tortorello is the players are gonna win They have to you have like unfortunately you have to if you're rebuilding You have to get the young guys that you think can be the the building blocks you have to commit to them and the coach has got to be the right guy for those players.

And Babcock wasn't with this Leaf group, so they moved on. You know, and Tortorella, I guess, wasn't for these guys or something happened on the scenes and they moved on. Doesn't guarantee anything for Philly, but Montreal ran into one last night. Like the Habs are going in there thinking, could Torts not have just survived one more day, please? Like let us get through Philly and pick up two points and then fire them on the Friday Because you know Philly came out guns of blazing last night and Michkov in particular The Habs are on the wrong side of it. I always thought and this is a respectful question that I want you guys to answer

No, because it's true one thing You said it's respectful. It's gonna be the most disrespectful thing It's not because I don't want it to be taken the wrong way. Okay, go ahead Do you do you believe that Mike Babcock was the wrong guy for the Toronto Maple Leafs at that time for those kids? I didn't I thought he was I don't perfect guy Well, you I mean you don't think he was the wrong guy? I will say this. Let me answer. I guess let me give you my answer.

That Babcock is closer to a Tortorella than he is, you know, I can't really give you an example of a young, like, you know, a Warsaw Ski, like we saw in San Jose last night. Yeah, exactly. Like Babcock was a guy with my wear of the highway. I'm a winner. I've won a cup. I'm going to the Hall of Fame I'm getting paid you're gonna listen to me I don't care what the GM said like that was his operate order all is the same way Like they're cut from a very similar cloth now the Leafs though

What what I why I think it actually Was probably still gonna work for him was because they made the playoffs immediately and they were actually a good team pretty much immediately with Babcock the first year was the dignified tank They were terrible pain is coming and all that but they they shook out who they had to shake out They kept the right guys. They brought in the right kids and immediately they were competitive Right, so Babcock had the ability to do what he was supposed to do almost immediately The difference with tortorella and Philly is that team's not any good. They got no veterans, no goalies, you know what I mean?

I guess Babcock was a rare scenario where it actually could work even though technically it didn't start the way you would think it should with a guy that pedigree it well in any others like babcock has a shelf life exactly where we're talking any any hit it at that time i think the organization's like we're getting into believe me we all were right there here getting the team canada's coach again in a couple and you get a guy with pedigree and they show them a fortune and they had a little or get all of that

but but i think you look back at the progression, like right into Sheldon, Sheldon said the exact same things that Babcock said for years and it was like, okay, and tell those guys to get to the next level. So you know, it just, with Torch, he didn't have the Matthews and Marners and that at that young age. You got Michkov. Now he might end up being one of those, but it's a different talent pool

than what Babcock was dealing with. That was it, I mean that second year, the Matthews rookie year, they had Bozak and Kadri up the middle of the ice in their prime. Right. Like good players. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like they could have some of them. By the way, shout out to the Leafs turnaround

because if anybody's paying attention, they drafted those kids and two years later they were making the playoffs. Some of these other organizations, take a look around. You're on year five, six with not even sniffing. So as much as you're disappointed by playoff exits and losses and stuff, which it does suck, the alternative is what you're seeing around the league. Absolute nonsense.

That is valid 10 years ago for sure. And part of that was Babcock was here to do it. Part of it was they got Freddie Anderson right away. That was Lew who said, I gotta get a goalie. I gotta have a guy I can play that can win. And that was a big part. The biggest part though is the players were players. They turned out and they were factors in winning games.

Immediately. Some of these other jokers who want the big contracts, they're not decision makers in games. They just go out there and they play and they blend in like everybody else. They're phonies. For sure. And then you mix in a Hyman and a Brown and there were a number of guys who stepped up

and are lifers in the league, like legit NHL players. All right, hour two coming up, I guess Jonas, I don't know, Jonas is big timing us now. Being a hero, isn't he? Oh, he's Hollywood Jonas. Hollywood Jonas. I want him on today he better make up for this. We're gonna get him on, we'll track him down. He's got a trivia appointment in about 45 minutes we'll get him on before that. Overdrive continues, TSN

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