OverDrive - OverDrive - March 28, 2024 - Hour 2

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Analyst Mike Johnson joins to discuss the biggest headlines around the NHL. The Athletic Maple Leafs Writer Jonas Siegel joins to discuss the Maple Leafs' defeat to the Sharks, Joseph Woll's role in the crease and the mentality for the Stanley Cup Playoffs for the team.

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Jonas Segal later in the hour, if he finds time for us. Maybe, I don't know, maybe he's meeting up with someone up in the Hollywood Hills. Maybe he's got a party to get to. It's Friday night in LA, but we'll catch up with Jonas a little bit later on. Jay's in action tonight. I'm curious what the crowd looks like tonight. Always curious. It was packed house yesterday was not exactly a positive

Environment or a positive experience for anybody But going into game two, it's a Friday night. Toronto Dome will be closed right rappers are playing a buzz downtown 15k I'll be more than 15k. I think well, it's supposed to be freezing rain and stuff I think people are really gonna be Isn't it supposed to be a big storm? I've had I've had I keep like but I don't know what to make of that because I've seen It's a good thing. What do you mean to make a bit? I don't know about air Canada warning slightly freezing rain. Yeah, like I don't know the freezing rain These conditions are expected by 7 p.m. tonight like would that affect your

plans to go to a ballgame would you pull the chute for freezing rain I'm that guy that takes a look at nothing out just the app if I see drizzle rain and it looks kind of shady I say family we're not going soft as butter dude okay gotta do it man it's right at your, so you've got to do it, man. It's right at your disposal. It tells you not to go. It doesn't tell you. What do you mean it tells you not to go? No, it doesn't. What is this, a communist regime?

The weather app determines what you do in your life? It ticks in. Jennifer Shrunk, they say, stay off the roads in the morning. I give them the salute. I say, I'm not going anywhere. Okay. Thank you, guys. My understanding is that it's supposed to be freezing rain is not good.

Really bad. Yes. Really bad's a there's a warning out like a lie understand the warning I I listen I respect a warning dude if you if you don't know if you look at the warning and you say come on Kids, we're going to see the blue. You're an idiot. I don't think so. There's transportation for a reason exactly you can find a way to get downtown, walk your way into the park. Freezing rain, you know, if you can stay off the roads, I guess so. But if you have an appointment to be at the ball game, you're not pulling the chute because of potentially freezing rain. I mean, there's no guarantee it's going to rain.

That's what I'm saying. I have seen a variety of different apps that are saying maybe it'll rain Maybe it won't oh, I don't know. I think it's I think it's gonna rain all weekend But I'm not saying it's a guarantee tonight like by first pitch your call You're guaranteeing freezing rain at the dome tonight. That's what you're telling me guaranteeing freezing rain If I see like oh bad accident traffic's bad can Can't go I know I'm just looking for something I you want to get out of social Situations that's the truth you want to hang out with Fred and the other cat and not leave your house

I feel like I feel like Like the airports are an indication and when you're getting like when you're getting messages from airlines going if you're you we will change your flight for free if you want to change it because we're expecting bad weather Then you know to me. I'm like okay. They're they're seeing something It's not a guy on a you know a network channel that that does the weather and that like it's actually like people that okay But here's my response to that yes obviously when it comes to massive transportation like airplanes and airports you have to be extremely proactive and careful yeah that is different from walking into the park to go see

the blue jays play with the roof closed it's not the same like hey man, if I were flying to Hawaii, I may be delayed an hour, so I can't go to the ball game tonight. I don't understand what the airport has to do with this. I'm saying you live where you live, north of the city now. If you had a choice, and you're like, I got tickets that are going to take the family, but it's like, hey, it's freezing rain. It's going to be a pain in the ass in the Don Valley to get down there. It will be.

Yes. And okay. And you go, the team got rinse 12, two could be another Roger. I will catch it on TV. I don't know. I hear what you're saying. And that's where O's going. That's why 15,000 people are going to be there tonight.

All right. So maybe it's 15. Maybe that's the number. It might be 25. I don't know might be okay now We're getting live reports someone tweeting and saying it's freezing rain in Georgetown right now So there you go west of the city freezing rain has already hit it's like we're preparing for a like something Freezing rain has hit Georgetown

Moving East by the way freezing rain it there's a scary still hoping he's by the way i'm moving raising raised it it debilitates the roads by as it's like snow and that's concerning so i think is even easier freezing rated really have an effect on the same bc safe of course i'm not you know i'm not taking on mother nature here listen it's end of march or still for easing's very upset sickening gotless gotless behavior i don't like it uh... here's mike johnson rts on hockey analyst

johnny your trot guy you wouldn't few if you're going to go down to the ballgame tonight you would pull the shoot because of the weather app i would be inclined i mean let me ask us so so hard i hear a slight bad you're a smart professional athletes afraid of the pocket in the rain to a game this is so i'm not a lot of your

trade of the rain i'm afraid of the two-hour commute and the yahoos that don't know how to drive in the freezing rain and i don't want all five hundred and so all the way i have it eighty other home game i could go to the model and i'll let you know if you get including one tomorrow i'm sure i could just get one if i want to in a heartbeat so i would be inclined to think about it

or i might take club public transit could generally speaking the subway more reliable and bad weather than than the roads but yeah i would i'm not here like you get two centimeters of freezing rain anything that they're gonna happen to read coming down power is going out. It's not gonna be pretty Yeah, that is the concern is like power outages and sorry you sold me. I'm gonna I'm gonna be in the bunker this weekend I'm not going anywhere and watch the Leafs try to get a win in LA

They have the Kings have lost three games at home all year Yeah, and now the police are going in there after a performance where their head coach wasn't overly happy. Are you a glass half full or half empty guy that they got a point last night but I guess also threw one away to San Jose? So my gut reaction is it's empty because like they just did this against San Jose where they went over time they lost in the shootout. We know how critical the points are there's so so few games left. They are so close to potentially winning their division and to lose a point against a last place team doesn't feel very good.

The fact that they rallied back with too late, that was nice to see because they haven't done that as much. We joke about their plus minuses. So many six on five goals against them this year. They don't have nearly the success that they had last year doing it. That part was nice to see. The offense scoring a bundle of goals, which is sort of par for the course in the power play being red hot, is par for the course as of late. But then doing a little research, as I like to do for O, because I know he already knows this,

but I want to keep up with him. Yeah, here we go. If you look at Florida and Tampa, the teams that Toronto is battling for first in Atlantic, and you look at the number of points that they have dropped to the worst five teams in the league, right? You're following me, you lose the game, you drop two points, okay? So last night, Toronto? You're following me. You lose the game and you drop two points. Okay.

So last night, Toronto drops one against San Jose. Toronto for the entire year against the bottom five teams, they've dropped four points, Florida all year, six Tampa all year, six. So this idea that they're throwing away against the crappy teams, Florida and Canada wouldn would let this happen notch through in fact they've been better again the bad team then florida and have been this year so when i read that i'm like

maybe we have to have a little bit more measured response because yet timing is bad you hate to see it but it's not like it doesn't happen to the team the competing with paid to say johnny but i'd be to the punch on that stat and i brought it up earlier in the show or

okay i don't know with you to live in the same stat universe i didn't hear that stat earlier this time i don't think it was as as clarified as johnny's like johnny i hear you bozos call if i said it it just couldn't be true i was a little much when you say it, it's mush. These guys are just buffoons. It was more of a buffet of words. No, they go as far, Johnny, as they say. We didn't even hear it. That's their play. I did hear you defend it, but I didn't hear the stats behind it. I just heard you go,

that is some people on Twitter. Did he say that? That's precisely what he said. Take a look at what i said i said you gotta be careful with people on twitter but the guy tweeted out that florida and tampa both dumped a pile of points away against bad teams okay that's how i worded it that's the same thing it's a tie

that sums up the difference between you and i in a nutshell that's right that's right they're a little bit more detailed but we both try That sums up the difference between you and I in a nutshell. That's right. You're a little bit more detailed, but we both try to get the same point across. Both have their merits, just a different way of expressing it. NCAA versus the OHL right there, right in front of us. That's right there. Yeah, well, listen, and that's all fine and great, but you know how Lee fence would respond to that

You know is now it's crunch time and you got you got ten to go But I I kind of saw it in a similar fashion last night I thought the one a week two weeks ago was much worse. You're up to nothing at home In San Jose, you've got to close that that's got to be for nothing the one last night You know, it's it's a trip across the country, it's late, they got off to a bad start, they could have quit on the play, they didn't. And you don't get flowers. Yeah, and Joseph Wall, well, that's where, you know, we were talking about that earlier,

Johnny, and, you know, the Leafs did not make him available to the media in the last two starts, haven't been good for him and against really bad teams and last night He had the he had a blooper like he created a blooper moment last night It's a big mistake and it's it's a play that will hang over him Johnny What do you think of him not coming out to speak after that? Are you cool with that? I? Mean I would on some level you'd like to own it in the moment, right? Because it sort of shows resilience. I don't know if he needs to show that to anybody himself or his teammates, but you probably would like to see it.

And even if he goes out there and just like, listen, that was a terrible play. I wasn't on top of my game, I gotta be better. Look forward to being better next time I'm in there. Something like that, and you say it five different times, and I don't know what that accomplishes, other than it shows that you're not hiding because when you don't come out the perception could be you're hiding because you don't want to face the music about the bad

play that you made or the bad game you had and and that implies maybe some sort of you know not being mentally strong as you would want your starter to be but yeah I mean I guess you'll get asked about it tomorrow. When he's getting those in the action, media's around. So I would prefer it, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. I think the other bigger question was, awesome Scott Lawton, best game, scored a goal, but he was good.

First line though, was not good. Not good. They were you know they all got points because they get 20 points of power play and the net the goalie out but at five on five they were dominated by Celebrini largely and maybe that's a testament to Celebrini that he can go up against Austin Matthews and go up two games in a row and basically get the best of them at five on five. But that would be a concern more than anything coming out of that. Out of that game, the player that's the top line wasn't what you

would hope it to be. And going to LA, it'd be no cupcake. You mentioned there's 33 games in they've lost three at home. They had the best home record in the entire NHL. And it's not going to be any and they take their car all about game as well whether be pretty motivated to get big get right after colorado so uh... won't be getting any easier the weekend i agree i think that you know they are going to be pissed after colorado took it to last night i wanted to stick with the goalies because your ten games left

and i just the the reaction or overreaction in the market, you know, people tweeting last night, well, Joseph Wall just cost himself the starter's job here, you know, and for game one and all of that, like, where are you going to fall in that because we are we aren't now 25 games left, we're 10. And you know, after this weekend, now you're down to eight and it's really chipping away and and The comfort level for Craig Berube. Do you still believe in his mind? He knows who's starting game one right now Or is he going to be leaving it to that last five games where it's been back and forth each time and you're gonna decide

at that point No, he knows he won't say but knows. And things are always subject to change. Somebody gets red hot, someone struggles. Okay, I get it. But if you were to strap a polygraph to him today and say, who's starting game one? He'd say, Solars. And I think the insistency, I think,

the elimination of a less than great goal against, Mase has had just a few fewer than Wall. Certainly, Wall not playing as well as he has all year long, not as hot as he can be right now. And I think the fact that Joseph Wall, in his career already, has entered a playoff series, not being the starter, and was okay with it.

He appeared comfortable and confident in that role. Where Solars, they never really started a playoff series before. So maybe the idea of him being a starter is easier for that rotation. If it has to go that way, Solars one wool two as opposed to the opposite. But I think that that's what he would do. And what do they have? 10 games left. So what the large get six will get four and they set it up so he gets game one i think that's

probably what fred berube thinking uh... and let's not be drastic changes out the way to go you mentioned the power plant how they're racking up points and it's all of a sudden red hot you know that they are players really start to collect a possible age hottest in the league and they stuck with the five forwards and Mitch as the power play, you know, as a quarterback and, you know, it's interesting because generally I find it kind of runs through Willie now or like that's kind of where they're trying to, I

said earlier today, not to the same extreme, but Willie's this year is Auston Matthews. Like what Auston was last year's what newlanders this year you know last night's a perfect example that gets them on the board early he's the guy that scores the late winter that austin did that fifteen times last year the guy that scored right you know right before the bell went off and i think that makes sense you know like austin he scored last night but that was just he was in the

right place you know squeak through the goalie and he's on the goal line but Willie's the most dangerous offensive weapon right now on this team. Yeah he's been really good and he's done it without the aid of Matthews or Marner right he doesn't get to play with those guys so he's been incredible it's amazing Hayes when you watch them play like down at the ice when I'm between the benches, especially at five on five, how everybody on the ice with William E. Leonard on the ice is looking specifically and obviously and

totally to get him the puck. It's really something to watch. Like just get it to him and get out of the way. Like that's the sentiment because they know once he has it, always, they make so many good things happen with it. It's really, it's impressive what he's done. Obviously career high in gold, he's not gonna slump home at 40 like he did last year. It's been a great year for him and they will need it to continue to be excellent

all the way through. Second line is scoring a lot of points, again lots of it's five on the power play. But yeah, what he has, Hayes, is the ability to create time and space for himself and therefore everyone else because of his escape ability using his edges. Like I think that is essentially

what makes him so important. Because he can take a puck, under pressure, pull it off the wall, get to open ice, cut back once, and all of a sudden, he's got a bit of space and everyone else can move without thinking the puck's about to get turned over, and it allows them to play. And you need players that either through a pass,

through skating, through deception, or through physicality, to get themselves time or space. This is what it's all about when you have it. And with his evasiveness, he does it better than anyone on the team right now. And that's why he's piling up the points the way he is. He's been so good. Now, one thing, if you guys noticed, and we've had this conversation about Matthew Nyes, who quietly is going to push 50 50 points here and I was concerned about maybe what his ceiling might be offensively if you saw if you look at the game tying goal the one with whatever 12 seconds left whatever was

that class that was going through the middle he could have taken it and he left it like he lifted his stick up and let it go to Nylander and that to me, I was so impressed that in that moment, maybe he was being yelled at to leave it, he had the awareness to not touch that puck. It almost to me was like, well, that's a growth in his game in the awareness about where everyone is and the situation they're in.

It was totally heavy play on the tying goal that I wasn't sure that maybe he would make a year ago. So impressive by him as well. Yeah. Johnny, what do you say to people when you get asked on the street the same question I do, the same question we all do, when people come up to you and say, Mike Johnson, what do you think of the Leafs this year in the playoffs? What do you toss back at them? I will say they this year are a worse team than they've been the last four. But they have better goaltenders.

And so if you think the goaltenders can make a difference, then you can think they have a good chance. If you think the opposition and maybe the Zitto, the opposition is not quite as stiff as it has been in previous years, then they have a good chance. If you're thinking that maybe just the stars align and they get the breaks that they haven't gotten in years past, then they have themselves a chance. But I'm not, and I say this almost laughingly, that they are what, seven seven six in the entire lead in points

But they're they're not as good certainly five on five at all as what they've been in years past They just they just saw they just They are just kind of a middling team As far as just whatever you sat you can look at it five on five and generally speaking when you look at those stats It's the teams that are at the top of those numbers that have the chance or most likely to go deep. So I, without saying it, I'm like, they got a shot because they're talented and they got goals heading. But, you know, I don't feel very confident that they'll be able to mow down the competition

because they just haven't done it that way this year. So with that in mind, let's say you're walking down Main Street in Edmonton, Alberta and someone goes, what do you make of the Oilers this year in the playoffs? What is your answer on that one? Then you give me the health files on McDavid and Dry Settle. Both health at the start. Let's say they're both 100%. This is load management.

They're going to get over this and they're ready to play So I Like them because I like those two guys I Don't love you know as much of the rest of that I've been saying as you've seen in years past Those guys are gonna have to be otherworldly to be to have Edmonton advance And to go back to what we talked about earlier the fact that they will likely get LA on the road Where LA is never lose that home. I know they've had they beat him every year. I get it And everything was my three season telecom pick as you know, I'm not I don't want to go off that but I don't I don't feel Great about their roster everything has to come together perfectly health

Evander Kane the, the D-Corps, Stuart Skinner, lots of stuff has to come together this year more than last for them to go deep. What a hater. Yeah. Well, listen, I can't disagree with that. They need a healthy Cain. They need somebody who's a separator there. Like, if McDavid and Dry Settle, they are who they are.

They're all world. But they need Hyman to get back to who's actually coming on recently, RNH. But you need somebody who is like a unique player. They need Dylan Holloway. Well yeah, obviously. Ohhhh. Wow. I think they need like.

They need Dylan Holloway for 2, three is what they need. Oh my god. Like, Rollberg has four and a half. We go down this road noodle story. Rollberg is like, okay, that's five million bucks. That's a lot for a guy who only played sixty games. But two, three. Two, three is a toss away contract. Two, three is a guy who barely won a game. Didn't they pay Jeff Skinner three million? Yes! And Victor Arvidsson the same.

Like, you saw what Holloway could do and it was right there. You just had to match it. Just match it. It was right there in front of you. They gave you the contract and a good one and to see that guy who has been so good for St. Louis. Like you think of a Broberg Holloway Fogel McCloud Edmonton's got older maybe smaller Lower and a little less skilled outside their best players. That's rarely That's not a good recipe

But yeah, I mean you look at it the last last two nights, Dallas, they got back in the game late. But last night, they got pumped in Seattle. Yeah, I mean, they sat at home. My biggest thing is I don't know what's going wrong with Ekholm. Again, he's been in and out of the lineup. They need him. That's been all year that's been going on.

He's their best defenseman. I mean, Bouchard is, but I think Ekholm is their best defenseman. Who's more stabilizing? Like, they miss him. I don't know what's going on. The goalie, I think, what did they do with it? Is it a concussion protocol? He didn't even fly last night.

Yeah, I think it's probably protocol. He ganned up Neck, whatever he's got. Yeah. But they've got, they're at Battle of Alberta tomorrow, I believe, right? I think they're in Calgary. Yeah. Like, that's a big emotional game, man. Well, Calgary. Yeah. Like that's a big emotional game, man.

Well, Calgary needs it big time. Like, I think Calgary, I think they got jammed up twice last night. I don't know again. Johnny, where are you at with these goalie interference? We got in toward the four o'clock. Holy crap. You know what? And I tend to like to have these kind of conversations.

I like to think that I have a good handle on it it maybe more than people who don't watch as many games as we do. Right. Gotta say guys I don't like I get the standards are this. Did you touch the goalie while he's in the crease? Did you go in there on your own? Did you impede in any way his ability to make a normal save? If those three things happen it's no goal. And I guess the real wild card for me guys is did you impede his ability to make a save? And like the slightest brush and impediment is a slight graze and inability to establish position.

It feels like right now that's kind of where they're at. And so I guess I understand it They're applying the rules as they should I don't like it. I think they should be different I think I think you know, you're battling for space and the goalies are part of the action as well And as long as you don't move them Then and the goaltenders now know if they you know, reach out like Soroka and the circuit They like the bill like toasturka, they like to initiate contact, knowing that they're going to get the call they want.

Yeah. It's confusing sometimes that I get fans and players getting frustrated. I think that's the standard that I laid it out. I just don't love the standard. I think it should be more tilted to more allowing a little bit more in-game not contact, but just the finity of each other. You can be around the guy and not have it not kept. Yeah, I mean I think it would be termed like hockey player. You know how sometimes they'd be like, that's a hockey play.

Like to me, right now, everyone is struggling with the parameters of what you're talking about. My biggest thing is, and I've been saying it all along, it's going to happen to a team in game seven of the, you know, whatever, pick a round and it's not going to go well. And Hayes, I know where you stand. You keep coming back to it and say it's overwatched, overassessed, all of that type of stuff. It's just I'm concerned that it's gone the other way now. And now we're really struggling with

what is goaltender interference? What is pass interference? What is the strike zone? Like the most important things in pro sports right now and the most polarizing thing, and there's no answer. If anything, it's kind of getting more and more polarizing as opposed to less. Absolutely, it's very confusing. But ultimately, it's kind of getting more and more polarizing as opposed to less. Absolutely.

It's very confusing, but ultimately it's because it's subjective and that's what you're going to get. It's an opinion in the end. That's what it is. One person could look at it and say, no goal. The other person could say, good goal. That's the reaction. That is the reaction.

That's why it's a gonkshow all the time. I totally think the goalies are abusing it though. They're initiating contact. There's some flopping going on. They're starting to flop a little bit. There's some flopping. The guy could be at the top of the crease and they just wheel out there and they're like, I gotta bump into that guy somehow.

Paul Mary won. That should've been a goal. Don't say that because Drake said I was insane for questioning that one. He said that if you look, he went into the goalie. I said, Darren, I'm sorry. I totally disagree. You're right. Yeah.

You're right. Like, okay, by the letter of the law, I guess they take it away, but what we're saying is that the law should be different. That one should be... Dude, no kidding, Johnny. You were between the benches. Rush, it's just crazy. You were between the benches with Mitch Marner, he fell down after a circus move and all of

a sudden it's goalie interference. There's no way in hell that he could have thought I'm going to bump into the goalie falling down here. But he has to be responsible for his actions. That to me was a goalie interference. Clear cut. Ifcut if you're doing a circus movie run into the goalie knock him out of the net like that that you deserve a goal to interference to me the Paul Mary 1 0 I agree with you like I thought that was a goal because the goal he actually engaged it with Paul Mary but to me Johnny is this never going to

change unless you get to you ellen pick rules well if we want international rules almost a wave right that's our international sheltered just tilted to like it's a like it is a tilted slightly more incidental flight contact is allowed in this error more on the side where we had a pop-up not should have okay it's that sort of idea that they will leave it at that but i I don't know. I mean, I think everyone's worst fear is that it's, you know,

whatever 99 toe-in-the-crease. Like game seven, someone scores a goal, gloves are in the stands, and now you got to go sit there for seven minutes, get your gear back on, and potentially go play. Like that's the last thing anybody wants. It's awful for the entertainment purposes of things. For the history of it all. Yeah, exactly. You just rip away a big, big moment. Even if in the end they confirm it, you still stole the moment by challenging and making everyone stop and wait. Like Hanson Carter. I don't know if you guys remember, he scored an overtime goal for Team

Canada once at the World's. It took him like 14 minutes to come in as a good goal. It ended up being a good goal. You're like, okay, well that's sort of a, I guess it'll be celebrating again. Like who cares? Yeah, it's very anti-climactic. I mean, it really just takes away from the moment. All right, Johnny, good stuff. Enjoy your weekend.

Before I go, fellas, I need know, the magic of video editing, how many takes on the Taylor May challenge? Because oh, that was incredibly straight. Yeah that was a dart he threw. We had three shots each, we'll let the cat out of the bag, we'll say there were three shots and they took our shot But I hit them. I hit the green three times in reg Oh Missed the green his first shot by 20 yards and was playing a hero It was yelling at it saying it's going in and it didn't even get to the green

Oh my god, but then he did make the appropriate adjustment through a door I think it's second I don't even know if you hit a third one because your second one was five feet and you're like Mike drop p790 drop That's what it basically was. Yeah, all the other stuff. That was one take Yeah, that was great acting Flashing brand new clubs. It's like dropping them on the car pack. You can't do that I was thinking the same thing man. Like we got there and it's like, you are we gonna say like we got let's do it we're going to war we're going we're in the faceoff here I got to try to win this and get a brand new 790

and this guy's trying to chop it off and I still I won the draw though Johnny I won the draw. I was looking for a plastic wrap on the clubs I thought nothing I thought like a full face-up turned over to pull it back he's playing a little draw a little I got away from it to the left a little bit still very solid aggressive very solid very aggressive now now that is your home away from home you are at the lab like we do feel very comfortable in there yeah they we do so how could you not love that place if you love the club right in the mix man yeah one more thing that I We do see that. How could you not love that place? If you love the clubs and you'd like to get... Is the man Gary there? Oh, they're all... Is Gary running the show?

Yep, right in the mix, man. One more thing that I wasn't going to bring up, somewhat unnecessary, heroic play by my counterpart here. I hit a seven iron, all right? So I hit a seven iron, 75 yards. This guy, he gets asked what club you played. He could have said, I hit a seven iron too 75 yards. This guy, he gets asked what club you played. He could have said, I hit a seven iron too. So that we're both insane.

Dude, I didn't know. I was just being honest. He goes, actually I hit an eight. Okay, you hit your eight iron further and better than I do hit my seven. Dude, I was just answering. We got a note from Uncle Nicky up at TaylorMade. He goes, what club did you guys was it both seven iron I'm just I was honest I'm like it was eight for me yeah

he hit an eight iron actually that's an eight after I think I had answered and said seven iron comes right over the top anyway no i was all one take jake best professional crust of the car and i do not think will be up there in front of you impregnable i think that nothing left from one of the finalist for the canadian screen actors awards ready whatever call a congratulations well done

well dot thank you johnny i. It means a lot to me. You are no longer a fraud. Anyway, that's important to point out. This puts an end to any fraudulence. People can't say it anymore. That's it. Yeah. Get out there and vote.

Duthie is probably the pace car like he always is. That would be my guess. But it's all good. We're all a nomination. That's all I'm asking for. I'll take it. Thanks, Johnny. All right, fellas.

Have a good weekend. Mike Johnson, our TSN hockey analyst joining us here on the Maple Toyota hotline All right We got Jonas Hollywood Jonah Segal coming up in about 10 15 minutes Cameron Maven on game two of the Jays Orioles service his take on Otani Juan Soto making his debut the Mets lost last night the Yankees had a good start I also want to play for you guys when we come back from break my favorite John tortorella clip me. Juan Soto making his debut. The Mets lost last night. The Yankees had a good start. I also want to play for you guys when we come back from break my favorite John Tortorella clip. I sent it to Noodles last night. It was when he first got hired. He just charges

up the fan base. I want you to hear it next. Okay. We'll play that and we'll get jacked up for Hollywood Jonas. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. All right, Mail It In Friday brought to you by Boston Pizza Canada's favorite sports bar Enjoy $15 lunch at BP where you get an entree a side and a drink and you'll get it all in 20 minutes or less so fast lunch doesn't have to be fast food see you for a $15 fast lunch at your local Boston pizza. Jay's in action tonight, Leafs on the west coast, Raptors Charlotte tonight and we'll catch up with Jonah Segal Hollywood Jonah Segal here in just a moment. Yeah, but you reference to John Tortorella clip. Yeah, you want me to up this clip

it's one of his first interviews and he's got a guy's interviewing him and he's just Torch is the new coach and the guy in asking the question He wants to know like has torts found something like that's gonna lead the charge to the Flyers like what have you discovered about this team that's gonna take you into the next phase and be awesome here it is what are we good at have you found something that you can build on an identity with this team no No. Wow. He just stares at him and says, no.

No. That's so tough too because I don't know who the broadcaster is. It probably works for the team though and it's trying to get, you know, a little tired. Oh, the guy probably would have wanted to say to Tor, you couldn't have gave me something, dude. Right. Hey, we're still working on it. I can't give you an answer right now because, but's the whole point we're working and we're going to get there and i promise you know

that's just a just a deadpan towards no so unnecessary it that's what the word it is it's unnecessary because all you have to do is play lips that was in a hit piece exact that was literally like that uh... softball where he can go hey the future is bright here. Like we're a work in progress. That's all you have to say. But the flat out... Just play it one more time. I just like the abruptness of it. Go ahead, play it one more time.

What are we good at? Have you found something that you can build on in identity with this team? No. I'd love to see where it goes from there because like I can be I can picture myself in that guy's shoes. Or again, you're just trying to get the ball rolling, probably on an interview. You know what I mean? Like the guy he probably works for a comcast or something the flyers. Oh, he's trying to dig something out of the sack. Like, hey, it's been ugly. You're here. Danny Breyer's here. Keith Jones trying to find an identity. Got to find what works and hey just you know throw something at me

no okay thank you towards with the hon some of his highlights though with the media like that one wasn't that was just unnecessary was like why i i just found out when you were i think it was a stop is the larry brooks stuff when he was in new york that's him at his height yeah that's prime at his height. That's prime Tortorella.

And Larry brooks right in there, like just right in there, right in his face, giving it to him. Kind of like what I'm sure Jonas just did with the Maple Leafs because the Maple Leafs got off the ice in LA. And here he is from the athletic Hollywood, Jonas Siegel. Nice of you to find time for us. Thank you, Jonas. Sorry guys

I wasn't trying to big time yet. Well, it's hollywood Jonas. Hollywood Jonas Seagull now. You know, just trying to track down scoops and talk to players, you know how it goes. Were you trying to track down the goalie or did he talk or what? He did talk today, both goalies talked today. I was not in those scrums I should say. Why? Were you bothered that he did not talk last night? I'm not bothered by anything man. I don't care what they do but I just find it weird how a goalie in the NHL doesn't just loves talking when he's great but just when

it doesn't go his way we got to like the term, we gotta protect him is tossed out there. I find that to be insane. Yeah, it's hard to say like what exactly happens in those situations. Like I've been there a lot. Is it the players saying he doesn't wanna talk? Is the team deciding they'd rather have someone else talk? Like he was not, he's part of the story last night.

He's not the only part of the story. Should he have talked? Probably. Does it matter? I don't know. Yeah, in the end, I mean, they're gonna move on. only part of the story should you talk probably doesn't matter yeah in the end of the the get a move on and uh... but i i do think you know it is a scenario the starting goalie nhl you give up five you give fluke if back all of the blooper goal that he created last night

and that's two games in a row where it's been ugly uh... yet and berube so we set after the game like we're joking for a lot earlier this week, Jonas, I think last week when you were in, about you hear something from a coach and then you run to the player or the player says something and you run to the coach. Would that have been a scenario last night where Barube, his assessment was team wasn't good enough but the goalie wasn't good enough either? And what do you make of his analysis of, of Joseph Wolin particular?

Well, if you notice, he wasn't asked about the goalie in that question. He brought it up and that is not something I've heard him do maybe at all this year, like he is, it's funny, like he had this impression coming in that he was going to be much harder on the players publicly and maybe even privately. And at least publicly, it hasn't really happened. Like he doesn't really call out anybody that hard. Like I was thinking afterwards, like after that game, that might've been a game in season's pass

that Sheldon Keefe comes out and kind of rips into the top players and like he has in the past. Like you guys remember elite players gate, like whatever game that was, I think it was against Arizona, but they didn't play very well., I think it was against Arizona, but they didn't play very well. And I think he said like something like, their elite players are

better than our elite players, something like that. I can't remember. So the fact that he actually went there with Wall, I think is interesting. I mean, it's an interesting time for the goalies. Like they're trying to figure out which goalie is going to play for them in the playoffs. And I don't think that there's a clear answer right now. I think like Stowars is maybe, I don't know, 53% right now. What do you guys think? Like it's something like that. So he's trying to figure this out and like he was clearly disappointed. The goal-tenning wasn't good enough last night clearly, but he also made a lot of saves

to kind of keep them around in that game too. So yeah, I don't know. That's I mean, I was just going to follow up on that is you get the sense from being around the team like they are leaning towards Stolarz. And if it is, it's just a slight edge just based on because we're down to 10 games, you know, and if you're mapping things out, you need to figure out, you know, who's getting the keys to the car game one. And really, I would think in the last

ten games you're going to try and lean towards one guy instead of the other. Well, and as we've talked about before, you notice which goalies they play in certain games. Like that's not an accident. We saw it in the past. We talked about it in the past. And the way this sets up, like they have wall play against the worst team in the league, not like Stoller's had started the previous game. And then now you're probably going to have

Stolars play tomorrow against LA, a better team. And then they play Sunday in Anaheim. You would think that goes to wall. That's another not great team. And then that would theoretically set up Stolars to play Wednesday against Florida. So like you kind of read between the lines a little bit in terms of like who they're playing, but does that mean Stolars has the job for game one? I don't think so. Like I don't, I can't imagine it's determined, but the way it's gone for wall here in March, like it's not really helping his case. And if it's tied, like let's say the two of them are tied don't you guys think it's just gonna be stole ours like if it's it's really close yeah just

based on his body of work this year is probably been better than wall I think it is yeah Jonas do you get any sense like you've been around the team for a bunch of years and you're around them every day or a lot of the days like when the playoffs are where they are 10 10, 12 games away, do you get any sense from looking at the players or listening to the playoffs that the buildup is coming? And I'm not talking, like I don't expect them to be the London Knights and all go shave their heads and say this is for the playoffs, but do you get the sense that's around the corner? Like what does the buildup feel like from the players end that's translated

towards the media or if any? So that is a good question and it actually is something that I can sense and it doesn't usually happen now. I start to feel it with like five, seven games left. Like it's interesting like right now for me I'm trying to talk to some of the players about the playoffs knowing that they're not yet in That playoff mode where they kind of shut down a little bit and don't really get super introspective So like in the last couple days i've talked to you know I've talked to neil and i've talked to marter and just you can you can feel that they're not there yet in terms of like Their headspace for the playoffs, but I think

When there's five games left, I think the mentality will change the intensity will change, but I don't think it's there yet. Well, and I'm wondering how you marry that with the fact that they're chasing the Atlantic, which has a playoff feel, kind of. Do they ever talk about that? How much does that mean to them? I asked Matthew that last night, and he said it's something that they've been thinking about the whole year. And we've heard otherwise from other players that it's not something that they think about, but like obviously it's something that they want to win.

And that's why you look at like these games like last night, the Nashville game, the other San Jose game and it's like, like those are the games that's how you lose the division. And then I'm reminding myself that if that happens and they finish, I don't know, second or third, that like we can't do this whole song and dance about, oh, you know, it's tougher that they have to play a better team and their road to the final and all that stuff is harder because like

those little games that don't really feel like much, the March 3rd game at home against San Jose that they lose in a shootout, I think they were up two nothing in that game. You know what I mean? Like that's how you lose the division. So like we can't really keep making an excuse for it if they don't win it in this scenario when the division is clearly weaker than it's been. Absolutely. Leafs, Kings tomorrow. Leafs, Anaheim. Enjoy Hollywood, Jonas. We appreciate you doing this.

You got it guys. Later. There he is. Hollywood, Jonas. We appreciate you doing this You got it guys later. There is Hollywood Jones. Oh later He's got big plans out there. He's Hollywood Hills. I guarantee it tonight man. Probably He's getting access to places the Kardashians could get into But yeah the mentality of the group because this is it like every year They've lost in the first round outside of the one year they lost in the second round and immediately people are like get me back to like end of March next year so you're right before the playoffs going into the playoffs and then that's going to determine who you are what you are and how you can change what your reputation

is and that's the thing about what's happening right now they have an opportunity to chip away at the reputation by taking the ten game seriously by getting in having the top seed winning in the first round against an inferior opponent and then maybe you take it from there the way they can operate and play and look on the ice it doesn't scream as if they've just been chopping at the bit to get back to this date and back to this opportunity maybe it's because the regular season again is not as important as the playoffs

and maybe it will show up come playoff time we'll see but they got 10 games left and then it really is go time. Dear Hazy B coming up in about 40 minutes, Jay's back in action tonight, we'll touch on that into the 6pm hour, best bet still to come as well. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. Mail It In Friday is brought to you by Boston Pizza, Canada's favorite sports bar. Enjoy $15 lunch at BP where you get an entree,

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didn't even play that good man. The guy shot 62 Yeah, eight under par leading the tournament Taylor Pendroth right there with them though, man He has man got both of them. I got both. I picked both Sheffler and Pendy. I got both Sound like such a whiner and a loser. I had both I got both I got both love having those two chef. I'm telling you man, like you're doubting them that he couldn't come alive on that course, dude It's almost like he said to himself the Masters is around the corner and I'm gonna get into go mode and absolutely Slaughter everyone. Yeah terrifying for everyone else in the field. No, they're on tiger vibe Yeah, if he's striking the ball if he's rolling pots

You're in big big trouble man. Like big big trouble the way that guy plays and the way he plays that course in particular and there's only been I think three players ever that have gone back-to-back right so it's not an easy feat but Scheffler may be capable of doing it. That'll be his third green jacket without any other major. Never won any other major which would be kind of wild. That's going to be interesting when he starts picking off other majors. Yes, exactly. Cameron Mabin, Dear Hazy B, our best bet still to come. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050N on TSN2. Hey, who invited climate action to the party? We did.

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