OverDrive - OverDrive - March 4, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: March 4, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' defeat to the Sharks, the Oilers acquiring Trent Federic in a trade, the Canadiens' hot win...ning streak for the team and the Canucks in the Stanley Cup Playoffs pursuit in the Western Conference. The guys discuss the headlines around the sports world in the latest edition of Confirm or Deny and Kyrie Irving's significant injury with the Mavericks.

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Starting point is 00:00:45 TSN for Brian Hazy, O'Doug, Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McClennan. What's going on? How we doing this afternoon? If anybody out there was wondering why there's such a thing as a broadcasters jinx, I saw you two idiots give no no no no yes yes yes yes yes ridiculous and they get the lead after the second they never lose they never lose they don't this was in the middle smiling away and then actually I did see you go why did you even say that you called them out on it you did now we believe in a jinx look at you two now we're not saying I guess that's why they call it a broadcasters jinx I guess and you're not alone I had people writing me last night it's your fault the Leafs probably knew
Starting point is 00:01:41 that you were jinxing them as if that's what they were listening to before the show and it's true it's the end of an era we played the Major League theme beliefs probably knew that you were jinxing them as if that's what they were listening to before the show uh... and it's true it's the end of an era we played the major league theme song coming in because they have one five in a row that is our that's just that's that's shows all standard procedure yes standard procedure and prior to last night i believe they were twenty four no when leading in the third and naturally when does the streak break with the worst team in the league you're up to nothing against the worst team in the league and you piss away a point last night and it actually got to a point when it was 2-2 I was kind of thinking just get to overtime or get a point like I was legitimately thinking this Celebrini kid's buzzing in the third man was he oppressive last night he is so crafty and he's hard on Pox and he's smart he
Starting point is 00:02:30 made a play off the the sideboard that I don't think anyone would have really picked up on he like it was Will Smith was taken off and I think he missed him on purpose to hit the board to beat the defenseman on the far side it was a brilliant play he's unreal like to see his he's so good to see his growth and like a year and a half from the world juniors prior to the last one and then leading into the n.h.l. that's impressive man because he was good in the world juniors in sweden
Starting point is 00:02:59 but he wasn't like dominant he just had his moments where you can tell he was going to be a good offensive player he had the cage on and all the sudden the guys playing in the n.h.l. and in the march of the first year he's playing he's like a dominant player he's really good man watching him
Starting point is 00:03:20 i think his games suits the n.h.l. maybe better than other leagues that's probably what it is. Oh, you know, you see guys that, you know, their game, what their strengths of their game is what makes you have success at the NHL. And I thought of last night, Celebrini, the details of his game at 18. Like he's hard on pucks like John Tavares is hard on pucks. You know, smart and handling the puck. He reminded me, this is big shoes to fill, of kind of like a young John Tavares. I think he's a better
Starting point is 00:03:51 skater when it's all said and done. Tavares is heavy on pucks. He's good around the net and got great vision and patience. Zelebrini has a lot of that at 18. I can't wait to see what he's going to be like at 22 23 And that's what you should be first overall, right? I go first overall you you should be expected to show flashes Almost immediately that you're you're the real deal and yeah that's what he was he stripped Tavares late in the game last night to like below the dots and You could tell that Tavares kind of looked at him like what are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:04:26 And that's the trap that the Leafs fell in last night. They'd been playing with fire, you know they had won five in a row in a very strange way of winning five in a row and they're up two nothing against San Jose, they're going to Vegas, they're probably thinking it's over, like let's just get out of here and in the third period they fell asleep and they got caved in on multiple occasions like veterans getting caved in where you know There's Tavares chasing guys around and I thought Riley and Ekman Larson were awful in the third period last night awful and Stolars, you know was glued to his right post Yeah, he had both goals and he had some some lateral lateral movement issues last night on that side.
Starting point is 00:05:05 But I mean, listen, he had made a couple good saves and that one was like, you get caught outside the post here, you got jammed up on the post. But Yarncroak could have helped him, right? Maybe pick up your man. Like how soft is that check in front? That's your guy. To foal, you gotta get underneath that stick there.
Starting point is 00:05:21 That's Yarncroak. First game, which I actually thought he had a little jump. He let me. I did too. Yeah, I did too. It's going to be interesting to see what they have in Vegas because you wonder if like the hockey gods plus just the odds are going to recalibrate because I don't want to use the word bluffing, but they've been picking up some points where it's like, ah, like that Pittsburgh game, the San Jose game, it's like, are you gonna start getting clubbed now?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Like, that's it, the Vegas game is where they need to like, a good team will just buckle down and be like, okay, we got a couple real deal Holyfield teams coming up here Wednesday and Saturday and we gotta be dialed in for it. Forget about anything that's happened in the last 10 days, let's play real hockey absolutely, and they have the luxury of banking all those points and you know, Florida won last night and
Starting point is 00:06:13 They're right there with Florida Tampa. They got a bit of a buffer on them But Tampa's got some games in hand and they're gonna play Tampa again. They're gonna play Florida twice more Yeah, and those three games are likely going to determine how this division is going to break out. And it's a long season. Every team in the league is going to have some ups and downs. And I think the sign of a good team and a sign of things that are kind of breaking your way is that even when you don't feel great, you're still rocking up points. And that's what the Leafs have been doing here. They haven't been playing like spectacularly well
Starting point is 00:06:45 but still racking up points and uh... i i think tomorrow is a platform game we get only only so many of them down the stretch i would say that you're this for the one against hamper and then baguette's in colorado like those are probably the games you're you're kinda circling and looking at and thinking okay these are platform games like these are big boy games let's see what we got here coming home
Starting point is 00:07:09 But they're in a good position and you know Storrs again It was the he gave up two goals and it's talking to doogie and you know The reaction as well was it his fault or whatever I mean gave up two goals Storrs been great this year and he gave up two and then the shootout They haven't had a shootout all year like it was a weird experience watching the shootout last night because they're the last team in the league to have one. It's like you had this shootout withdrawal almost. It was taking place and I'm like, what is this, man?
Starting point is 00:07:34 We haven't seen this in a long time. Now you hit the road and you also buckle up for Friday. They're going to be on the road. I don't know if it matters. You guys can speak to it when you're playing in the league. It's a matter if you're at home on the road for the trade deadline, I'm not sure. But you know, teams are starting to move.
Starting point is 00:07:51 We're starting to see some moves now and it sounds like some things are starting to really heat up around the league. Man, oh man, like that Frederick deal, like Ebbetson paid, I mean, listen, they got a guy for 500 grand. Like that's in a hell of a player and I don't know if he's going to play, it sounds like he's banged up and might not resurface till near the end of the season, if not the end of the season,
Starting point is 00:08:14 but you know, they had to pay a price. If you follow the trail of it, now that's Scott Lachance's son who was in that deal who is the head pro scout of the new jersey devils so he's all the jersey shale chance yeah shale chan and he's a nice player to see how to yeah it but you're you know he's a sixth rounder to ebb and to news kind of a late bloomer six five like you again you know scoring a stop power forward but ebb and had to of pay a price there to
Starting point is 00:08:46 get Frederick and that Jones is a big character too, can move. So I mean- Yeah, hasn't been playing much, but I always liked him. I never understood why he didn't pop in the NHL. I liked him in Anaheim. Yeah, me too. I thought he was a- but again, I don't think Edmonton's done. That's the one thing.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Now they did address a need up front, some need up front if you have a big guy, if they get Kane back depending on... You think that's enough up front though, Jamie? Like watching them play a couple times over the last 10 days, it's like they're... I don't know, it's like a lot of McDavid and Dry-Cytle and then after that they don't have the mojo of those guys last year. You know what I mean? That third line. Well, I mean, R&H, that third line is really good. It's just they haven't, they haven't kind of just been like Edmonton, you know. It's, Henrique's a really good number three centerman.
Starting point is 00:09:34 I like that, what's his name? I know, but my only concern is that they're relying on them to recapture that magic of last year and if they don't do it, they could be in trouble. Yeah, I mean, you can add, like, I think that Arvidsson is a guy who's small and he's been injured so that's the guy they probably need to replace or have him be healthy that's the biggest challenge but I they've got lots of depth there and I think they're going to if you got to figure out what you're gonna do with Kane if you get a man Kane for free at the deadline or at the for playoffs now
Starting point is 00:10:04 again easier said than done like everyone's like oh Mark Stone and and If you get a man came for free at the deadline or at the for playoffs now again Easier said than done like everyone's like oh mark stone and and kutra off those guys are special special players like It's tough to jump on a moving train right at the end of the season He's been at the whole year to that that's like stone. He was talking about him yesterday. He's like I want to come back Well, that's the that's what is being reported that Kane and the team kind of don't see eye to eye on his timeline. And he wants to play. Well, they might have to move him, guys.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Well, I wouldn't move him, though. I'd be very reluctant to do that because of what he represents and how he can play. Yeah, he's a unique guy. You're going to move him for what? Like, I like Tred Frederick. Frederick is a good player. I think he's a poor man's Ev Vander King. I think that's what he is
Starting point is 00:10:46 He's a poor man's of Vander King when Kane is playing at his best He's capable of scoring can play with very good players like Frederick's not playing with McDavid That's not that's not gonna happen He's some of the runs that Edmontons have been on guys Kane has been like the three guy like he's been the guy that scores Hits causes problems like he's been unreal at different times in their playoffs You go back to that playoff the Battle of Alberta that Calgary series It was Kane that tormented them in a came went right after Matthew Kachuk and neutralized him And then that's where that allowed the rest in the go nuts and Kane also scored a hat trick in that series and was
Starting point is 00:11:24 An absolute force you're right, but you can't just go okay. I'm ready to play rest in the go nuts and Kane also scored a hat trick in that series and was an absolute force you're right but you can't just go okay I'm ready to play I'm gonna do that like you have to have to build like that's the big challenge. Yeah I mean it's tricky it's very tricky because the nature of the sport right now and with the finite salary cap and because we're a few days away from the trade deadline now you got to make a decision between now and Friday. That's when you have to make a call. You've got to know his answer, whether or not he's willing to quote unquote take one
Starting point is 00:11:52 for the team and arrive game one. What's it going to look like at that point? There's also some gambling on Edmonton's side. That'll be a guy who hadn't played in a full year coming off multiple surgeries, not a young guy. What's it going to look like? I mean, it's a complicated scenario, but I like the Trent Frederick pickup. I like the Habs re-signing Jake Evans. I like that play too.
Starting point is 00:12:12 He got four years, got some security, a little bit of money. They won again last night. The Habs are a point out. Every day we come in here and we're like, well, who's going to be a buyer? Who's going to be a seller? What appears clear now is Boston's selling. Boston is going to sell. Marchand is week to week.
Starting point is 00:12:27 McEvoy's out. Lindholm's out. They played more games than anyone. I don't think they trust who they are. And I don't think they really want to just back door in and get pumped. So they're going to sell. Who else is going to go out the door? We're not certain.
Starting point is 00:12:38 But Boston's going to sell. New York's not going to. Ottawa's not going to. I don't believe. And I don't think Montreal's going to. I think Montreal is just going to, Ottawa's not going to, I don't believe, and I don't think Montreal's going to. I think Montreal's just going to kind of plug along. It doesn't mean they're going to be a buyer, but I think they might look at it and say,
Starting point is 00:12:52 why not? We've got 20 games left. We're a great hockey market. We're kind of in the race. How can you try to- That means guys like David Savard will just not trade them. But that's the thing. I still would sell, but it depends on who, guys.
Starting point is 00:13:07 That's the thing. David Savard, do they have somebody internally that could get some of his minutes? Well, Ryan Bacher's the guy in the future, but he's not playing right now. There's your right shot defenseman, top four, but he's not going to be part of the program. What are you going to sell a guy like that for anyway? What the hell is that, if it's a third round pick what the host the sense while you're right you're right but you see montreal did a really savvy move
Starting point is 00:13:32 while back they got that carrier from nashville he's a really like a really good defenseman solid skates moves the park so that made subard more expendable because of art got pushed down the lineup. So if you can get something for them, a younger player, something, like I agree, like you're not, I'm not saying blow it up, but I just, I look at Montreal and I still believe they're going to end up
Starting point is 00:13:58 with something in the 80s. I don't know if they'll make the playoffs, but it's a great run, it's a great story and a lot of these guys have taken a step. But if there is players that need to, whether they are on expiring contracts or you can find room for other guys pushing through, I don't think you change the course because the team has had success. If anything, you got to continue to allow them to battle and play meaningful games. That's what they're trying to do right now. Yeah. I just, Jake Evans is a unique situation because he's, what is he, 27?
Starting point is 00:14:30 28, I think. 28 and that's less than 3 million. And he's a dead player. Exactly. You know what he is. And he's a good player. But I mean, if they could find Dvorak a home, somebody like that, you know. You might be able to make those moves without really affecting your wins and loss column, right?
Starting point is 00:14:46 That's not that's probably the best way to do it is kind of plug away If someone wants to pick up a veteran piece off you you move and you go from there Listen, I've wavered on the Habs. We've had these conversations where you know a couple months ago I was like you still got to sell you got to sell you got to sell to their credit You know, they've gone up and down up and down at one five in a row again And they're back there point out and I think you know to if you're Nick Suzuki Who's who's committed to your franchise and is your captain? You know it's it's tough to tell him
Starting point is 00:15:15 We're just we don't believe in you with your actions, and that's what it would be telling them publicly They'd say the right thing now We believe in the guys bogus if you trade veteran guys who are important pieces You don't believe like you don't really believe you're gonna get in so these guys aren't stupid Caulfield hit 30 goals last night, you know Slavkovsky's doing what he did last year a second half He's starting to pick it up a little bit and it's the market and you got an order there
Starting point is 00:15:39 Who's probably like hey, we wouldn't mind a little bit of buzz in Montreal through you got a Montreal radio hit tomorrow Don't you hey, I'm in Montreal tomorrow I am oh my god to the boys all of a sudden I knew it I Knew it I I have I have gone up and down with this. I don't think they're legitimate They're not a contending team like don't get me wrong They're not they're not winning anything and I I would if you ask me to put money on it right now
Starting point is 00:16:05 Do I think they'll make the playoffs? I would say no that would be my bet and that would be my guess But they're a point out, you know, you know, this is a you're not asking me to think Buffalo's gonna make it or Pittsburgh What's wrong with saying you guys have a chance? So good for them And they bury them they've they battled hard man. Yeah, they have they stayed in the right I thought they were sunk like a couple weeks ago when they say they started really leaking oil and it looked and here's another part of it you're looking at it and it's columbus
Starting point is 00:16:34 in detroit in auto walk they don't have any playoff history like you know looking at them said man they scare the hell out of me they're going to snap out of it for the last 20 games and run off of 15 and 5 record You can't feel that way about any of those teams right now No, you know like that was a big point Ottawa got last night like they down three cops three nothing And it was like everything was going downhill on them and they battled and they picked up a point that was significant Like you need to you need to have that a lot down the stretch
Starting point is 00:17:02 You're picking up points where maybe you weren't supposed to get them. The thing is, Montreal's been so streaky. Could we be talking two weeks from now and they've lost four or five? Absolutely. Easily. Absolutely. That's my point is I think it's great. You guys know where I stood.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Right from day one, I thought they were an 84- team in that, you know, in the playing meaningful hockey, which is right now, playing me and this Hudson kids a player, you know, Caulfields found another level here, line eight, you know, listen, in and out of the doghouse. But there's been some great storylines in Montreal, which is awesome. And I hope they, you know, they get whatever they they deserve here down the stretch. But I still think if you're sitting there and you're going, okay, we have a plan in place, I don't think you deviate from it because you've got a five game winning streak going. I think you go, hey, we're gonna trim the outer edges here,
Starting point is 00:17:58 we've got players that we're gonna try, we've got players pushing through. Or if there's a deal that makes sense, make it, because you're gonna make your team better for the future as well. I don't think they're going to change the course, but again, I'm just on the outside looking in, but that's just my... I would say that the Evans deal is an interesting one because Doc is out for the year. I think Evans looked at it and said, I got an opportunity here.
Starting point is 00:18:20 I can play. You can't rely on Kirby, Doc. He's hurt all the time. I don't know what his don't you can't rely on Kirby Doc he's hurt all the time right I don't know what his future is gonna be and they could have looked at that and said we got to move now it's not gonna work and we're gonna move Evans and they they chose to sign him and I think they got a pretty good deal considering the way he's been playing I thought it would be a lot more money than that to be honest with you like I thought he'd be a
Starting point is 00:18:38 four-million-dollar guy well you got 2.85 it's I think Pierre LeBun was reporting that the Habs kind of held strong and said what we like you This is what we can give you you make the decision if you want to be a Montreal Canadian and he made that choice His credit it is both their credits. It's four million. It's four million in free agency. Oh, it's two point eight five You want to stay with the program where you're comfortable where you've been drafted developed in you? Yeah, you know probably own a home their home and want to grow with the program where you're comfortable where you've been drafted developed and you know Probably own a home their home and want to grow with these guys and continue to me I I like that move from both sides. He probably I don't know if he's ever had a four-year deal in his career
Starting point is 00:19:15 He's a guy who's I think he's a seventh rounder battle. Yeah, for sure battled and They didn't overpay for the player You know if anything that's a slight hometown discount because I guarantee you there's a lot of teams that would give him something with a three or four in it in free agency based on, you know, what he brings to the table. He's a nice player. Yeah, for sure. And like every year, you know, the Canadian teams are front and center
Starting point is 00:19:40 and they're going to be because, you know, the Leafs have to figure out what they're going to do here and who if they're going to pay a price you know like what how comfortable they are everyone's focusing on the same thing the 2026 first rounder Ben Danford Easton Cowan Fraser Mitten like those are the big four that's the you know the the number one topic in town which one you give up which one are you reluctant to move off of and what they have to determine is Which ones are gonna be the best players not which ones are gonna help you the quickest Which ones are gonna be the best players like you got to know your prospects as well as you can and you know I don't know anybody Hayes. Yeah better than anyone exactly You have to know exactly what Easton Cowan is gonna be in five years
Starting point is 00:20:22 It as closely as you can what Ben Ben Danford is going to be. Fraser Minton. And find a way to move off the third one in the pecking order if you're comfortable in doing that. But they're not alone. Montreal again making signings. Ottawa. I'm curious what they do between now and the deadline. And it sure sounds like Vancouver. Vancouver is a fascinating scene right now. Because I guess Pederson just spoke with the media and Kind of had a mea culpa on his own play and taking accountability for it and walked back his media comments From last week when he was in Utah and talked about how annoying it is to deal with the media You know Brock Besser. He's number two. I believe on TSN trade bait board that guy scores goals You know, he's going a lot of goals last year a lot of playoff goals like big playoff goals last year and if you're gonna move
Starting point is 00:21:08 off him look at JT Miller he did it again last night JT Miller has more points than Elias Pettersson has shots I saw that is a staggering statistic staggering statistic and if you're in Vancouver what are you doing like if Bess is gonna walk and you're gonna trade Patterson Who is scoring out there? They can't score anyway Who is gonna give you offense? What are you gonna possibly do with your future? Think about like a fan calling one of their friends From a faraway place last year saying
Starting point is 00:21:41 My team the Vancouver Canucks is so dialed in were young worse we got studs at every position needed we've got quinn hughes j t miller peterson and then call in that and we are locked in loaded were probably going to win a cop in five years magic calling back in giving an update on on your team i know it's staggering stagering do you know it's staggering staggering do you think anything out there it's not what's happening in vancouver i have a close contact dear friend of mine in vancouver who is
Starting point is 00:22:13 will call them carl from cloverdale that's the because he calls in and he talks to all of he's got a real good pulse of vancouver and he's so disappointed but he actually go back to not be noodles but don't but he's so disappointed but he actually goes back to... How could you not be noodles? But no, but he's realistic. He goes back to moves that were made four and five years ago going we should have done this, could have pivoted here, but we doubled down here, did this and you know he's talking Louis Erickson signing, he's talking Oliver Ekman, Oliver Ekman-Larsen
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah, but that one, those are all buried and gone away. They're gone now. But what it happens is there's a layer effect because it affects where they pick, affects draft picks that went out, players that didn't get an opportunity. He's saying you have to. He's terrified. And this is, again, this is his wording wording but he's a dear friend of mine say quinn-hughes might just put his hand up and that's the question i think he's
Starting point is 00:23:08 got two years left and it like a peterson goes and if i get besters gone i don't know if them goes ever going to be reliable again what do you what do you what is vancouver but i i honestly quinn-hughes is u f a in two years i believe he is the Yeah, I believe so We got a check will fact check that check that out But I'm I'm pretty sure it's coming up, but even coming up even guys like okay So regardless whether he was ufa in there five years or not my point being is this guy? Vancouver's I believe in a playoff spot right now
Starting point is 00:23:42 Well, that is the crazy thing all the the bumps and ups and downs, you look at the record, it's like in a playoff spot and it's like, how? Every team out there right now is giving it back. They're like, oh, sorry, Calgary's in that spot, but they literally are tied with Vancouver. St. Louis a point behind, Utah two points behind. And so I'm looking at this. Who's grabbing that spot? Vancouver could legitimately on the back of Quinn Hughes grab a playoff spot. Like and and and listen, you play Winnipeg, which you know, Winnipeg is a great team, but they got their scar tissue too in the playoffs. So so I my thing is, is that eight spot is wide open for three or four teams that either are going
Starting point is 00:24:29 to put their hand up or are going to trade pieces at the deadline and going to try and do it with young hungry players. It still might get in. It still might get in. Exactly. Because it looks like 89 points will get you in there. Yeah. Quinn Hughes is in year four of six.
Starting point is 00:24:43 He's got two years left after this and then he's a free agent of the twenty seven at that time lots can change a lot of change if you're vancouver you've got next july like july first twenty twenty six circled saying fit what what do you what we have to pay you yeah what is the deal you you put up but number down and we will sign it and you know you're looking at a
Starting point is 00:25:05 scenario where a lot can change because look where we were this time last year, they were the hottest team in the league. And now they're a dumpster fire. Yeah, but yeah, it's, it's I'd ask them even before that, like, try to get a read. Yeah, just get a read and say, look, dude, you probably have an idea what the hell's going on here. Like, just get a read and say look dude you probably have an idea what the hell's going on here like just give us a Heads up like if it's just a no let us know because We got a team to put on earth man like if that happens Oh, literally in there you're preparing for the next five years of being the worst team of the week thing is though I don't think that's we see how quickly teams turn
Starting point is 00:25:40 I will say this and I've been saying this alone like that San Jose team I think is gonna has got something going there a couple years from now couple years if they get that Schaeffer kid if they get first overall and drop that Schaeffer kid and they've got a couple other kids that can develop and they insulate him with some good veterans I think the year after next they could make the playoffs sure but I like the young goalie ask her off they're developing him in the Russian carry price that never plays in the NHL. And never plays that well at the World Juniors, but everywhere else he's been brilliant. Like I like him as a
Starting point is 00:26:12 goalie, again, he's a wild card, but he's a good goaltender. Celebrini, Eklund. But it started two years ago though, Noodle's. Yeah. But that's the thing, they're headed in the right direction. Sure. Like direction i would argue it'll be five years i would argue san jose is going to be better than a lot of these teams that are in the middle and haven't rebuilt and are are good gonna try and retool on the fly like san jose at least have some pieces and a guy to build around like
Starting point is 00:26:41 well i think san jose is going to be better chicago and it's a performance and luck like san jose said you know San Jose is going to be better in Chicago in two years. It's performance and luck. San Jose said, you know what, we're going to be terrible. And they got the pick, and the pick hit. And he's showing signs that he is a first overall pick and the organization is going to benefit from him. It's an organizational changer where it's some other guys. and you're seeing the middling teams like the Calgary's if you just you're kind of in you're kind of out you don't really have a lottery pick you don't make the playoffs if you do you get just dumb in the first round it's a bad place to be.
Starting point is 00:27:17 That's my point is they knew what they were doing and it looks ugly and it's still listen they're in third last place in the league aren't they are second Santa say they're in dead last Oh, I thought Chicago was behind them, but no they're I mean they picked up two points last night But they say might have jumped they have taken like there anyone that's I mean anyway. It doesn't matter But yes, I I hear what you're saying they yeah, they're still lost. There's still four points back in Chicago That's how bad that loss was by the Leafs last night. I get it. You're not going to play every game. You're up 2-0 against San Jose. That has to be a formality. For what you saw last night, let me name some teams that are ahead of them and you tell me
Starting point is 00:27:59 two to three years from now if you believe San Jose will be better than them, okay, Chicago. Yes Buffalo. Yes, Seattle Yes, I don't know what Seattle is anymore. I don't Pittsburgh. Yes Yeah, right and I think Anaheim's got some good and I'm kind of moving a little right but you know there there's Nashville is kind of in the middle. I think the out Nashville is gonna be I think they'll read that's a different Who knows what they're doing? But I've seen the stamp code stats. I know we're getting off track here 13 goals zero points 13 games start their 13 games zero zero zero Like Sam Mitchell see we got guys Zero zero I didn't see that that slips zero cracks there from zeros. He's got feathers in 13 games 13 games
Starting point is 00:28:46 Noodles. Yes. So I'll tell you what this Gensel scoring and looks pretty damn that was a hell of a game last night I was watching that always are playing pretty well down there man. That's a scary noodles That's what we were talking about earlier. I thought that's with our day Jonas was no And I don't think I was walking on this and Hayes said that's the last I wasn't think Jonas walked back. Jonas and Hayes said Vasileski. That's not true. I wasn't as hard. Everyone else did something and you have your hands clean on every single comment. That's right.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Yeah, I'm over there. But Jonas was very harsh. I was in the middle. I was factual. Like the facts were that the Leafs got to Vasileski a couple of years ago. He was brutal in that series. And couple years ago he was brutal not series and then last year was just okay but now he's really start to rock in bob is rockstar
Starting point is 00:29:32 yeah it's uh... vasileski second in the league in say percentage by a book well they jump stole us last night custodial is stores have been right there the whole time that i haven't played enough games i I always punch in like- Gotta have 30 starts? Well, you've gotta be the number one guy, not a guy who just shows up here and there. Every once in a while. You gotta be a guy, like, for me, I go on the number ones.
Starting point is 00:29:53 The Autinger, Vasilevski, Logan Thompson's fallen into that, like, game started. I always punch in like 25 to 30. Yeah. Stolars hasn't had that. That's pretty terrifying for teams in the East. Yeah. I will say that, It's pretty terrifying.
Starting point is 00:30:05 If Asileski got to reset and is back to where he was three years ago, it's... But meanwhile, Florida won that game. Like that's the crazy part. Exactly. Yeah. I mean, again, that's why that point, you can't piss away a point against San Jose. You can't do that. Because you've got to avoid these two teams
Starting point is 00:30:26 It's it's so obvious find a way to play Columbus, you know, Ottawa, New York, whatever Alright confirmed that I coming up Mike Johnson will join us just after five o'clock. We are confirmed tonight today We get the Raptors in action some crazy NBA news, man We'll ask the question, you know, cuz we just talked about the Canucks fans We're the Mavs fans currently stand Kyrie Irving done for the year with a torn ACL It's just incredible what's going on out there. Shea Gilder's Alexander with 50 plus last night Shea is on fire. He's I think a lock to win the MVP and we'll get into that more still to come Yeah, there goes oh we'll get him back i will get back to figure out what his face
Starting point is 00:31:08 areas now that i forget we're good we get a lot to their first second line tonight come back and let you finish that thought overdrive continues tsn ten fifty and on tsn four i can either confirm or deny that uh... that this is in fact is a and I can neither confirm or deny that this is in fact a significant... Austin trades Andrew Raycroft to Toronto in exchange for the rights to Tuca Arras. It's been my honor and a privilege to serve as the General Manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs Hockey Club.
Starting point is 00:31:36 It's time for Confirm or Deny. Do you regret giving all those gentlemen the no trades or no movement clauses? I can neither confirm or deny that. I can neither confirm or deny that. I can't confirm or deny. All right, confirm or deny. And I saw a clip of Trade Center back in the day go viral the other night. And I'm pretty sure Fergie, yeah, Dreg's hair was unbelievable. Jimmy, it was jet black.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yes. He dyed it for sure back in that day It was dude. I'm telling you maybe it's just because we're getting older his hair is the blackest hair I've ever seen on a white dude in my life Shoe polish it was that's the first thing I noticed when they went to it Who was it gourd Bobby back turn to the right? I'm like, that'sgg's in a wig yeah that's all it was was Dregg's gourd and Bob and yeah Dregg's it looked like they had dipped his head fresh dip we got to get confirmation on that morning but it looked good it was there was not a hair
Starting point is 00:32:39 out of place but what stood out to me was Fergie was on the main panel. Fergie? Pardon me? I'm pretty sure. He is. John Ferguson Jr. sitting there with Duffy breaking down trades. He is. Fergie was on the panel. We've got to get video up.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Send a note to the Quizmaster. I swear I'll smash every piece of electronics. I'm pretty sure he's up on the walls at Studio 6 as like a former teammate of yours, I guess. There is video of Fergie on the panel. Yes, Trade Center, oh wait, it looks like McGuire, Fergie, I don't know who's beside him there, and then Duthie. That's probably where the audio.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Millberry, it's Millberry. Is it Mike Millberry? Mike Millberry. That's probably where the audio of D's millberry is it mike millbury mike no I don't know where the audio of duffy where he says do you regret giving those guys And what great analysis I can't confirm or deny that okay. Thanks. Here's our other panel. I'll go to commercial that We're gonna bring you in for a full day of analysis. Your thoughts on this. I can't confirm or deny. Do you like that move by Jersey?
Starting point is 00:33:49 I can't confirm or deny that. Any questions? Remember, what did he say? Did he have a speech when he got Yannick Perot? He was like, guys. That was in the room right with you guys. Did he get the guy who's good on draws, Yannick Perot, wasn't it? Oh, I walked in and he goes, both start out the team for a move, brought in Luke Richardson
Starting point is 00:34:12 and Yannick Perot. Let's go get them, guys. That's inspiring. I love Luke Richardson. I love Luke. Well, they were both former Leafs, too, right? Like, Yannick Perot started his career as a Leaf. Dude, I'm telling you, the best Fergie thing of all time is he came in and Ty Domey got
Starting point is 00:34:31 us all BMW. Oh my God. There he is. Look at Dregg's hair. That is outrageous. That's not a fresh dip. That's him from Saskatchewan. That's just him young. Dude, that is jet black hair, man. Man, he looks young and he is cut. The suit looks butter. Look at Bobby writing down the trade. Bob's like, oh, that's an interesting move.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Yeah, that was Marion Hosa back in the day when he got traded from Atlanta. And the deal, you look back on it, the names, they got like- Colby Armstrong. Yeah, I mean, Colby's a good player. Frank Esposito, their names, they got like Colby Armstrong. Yeah. I mean, Colby's a good player. Frank Esposito, wasn't it? Was it? Angelo Esposito.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Yeah. Angelo Esposito. Yeah. Isn't there a Frank Esposito here in Toronto that made the... No, it's not. I know who you're talking about. It's not Frank Esposito. Frank Angelo.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Frank Angelo. That's who it is. It's not Esposito. He made the Monster drink. Yeah. He had like, he, I'm gonna go to the But obviously, that was when HOSA went there, didn't win, then went to Detroit, didn't win, and then eventually went to Chicago and won three times. So I'd say it worked out pretty well for HOSA. But yeah, Fergie, there he is. Looking great, Fergie.
Starting point is 00:35:57 We need to go into the archives. We need to find some Fergie analysis if we can. Send it in if you have it. Dig it up and send it to adhase TSN or overdrive because I want to see clips of his mojo on TV. If they keep having all these trades we're gonna have to pull up clips of Fergie on Friday because we can't sit there for eight hours and you know do nothing. To me we're gonna have to have something. We'll go back to Fergie clips.
Starting point is 00:36:25 We're two trades away from llama time. Like there'll be animals in there. What the llama Geno has got a bad signal to get the lamb as if there's two more trades because it's going to be tough. It is something we need to happen. And we need Marty, Baran and Hedge to go at it again. And but yeah, I think that you know what I would love a compare and contrast of Fergie's on and hedge to go at it again with the Pesaro's. I would love a compare and contrast of Fergie's analysis to the old dog Jeff O'Neill's analysis
Starting point is 00:36:51 today. You know how great it would be if you used... Dude, are you actually going to compare me to Fergie as an analyst? I don't remember him on that panel. I'm saying if we could find a clip where he hammers some sort of analysis and then it's thrown to you and you kind of have to compare and contrast how you would feel about that deal. There's something there.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I think there's something there we can dig up. Might be a specific overdrive bid. I'm not sure the guys at the Trade Center are that interested in it. That's what it would be called, Fergie Clips. Fergie Clips. All right, Confirm or deny? Confirm or deny? The Montreal Canadiens should be buyers at the deadline.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Not buyers. I'm denying it. If you don't want to sell some pieces and you signed Evans, if you don't want to get rid of Savard, you can just stamp that and say, you know what? Because if you're just dumping guys for third round picks, although it's a tough one because there's all different kinds of scenarios. Like, if a guy's got a year or two left and you don't really want them around and somebody wants them, then go ahead and get rid of them.
Starting point is 00:37:57 But I don't think they should be sellers where they're just like, take anything you want. They got to give those guys some kind of chance to break through. I'm denying it. I think they stay with the course. I made my case in the four o'clock, or in the first segment. I think they've had an up and down season, but kind of where we believe they would be,
Starting point is 00:38:16 playing meaningful minutes. I don't think you start changing the course and grabbing somebody to add here and there. Unless, again, it comes back to what Osing, if it makes sense. If you can get somebody with term. Well, that's it, Noodle. Let's say Buffalo is, now that's a difficult one because they're within the division and they've kind of been on par with each other.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Like Buffalo, I have no idea what they're doing. I have no idea what Buffalo thinks they're doing, what they think they have, where they think they're going. But let's say dylan cousins is available right now that is uki be a lineup for that that's the thing like dock i think is a guy that they're not going to really rely on jake evans is a guy that he's at ease further down the lineup
Starting point is 00:38:57 the borough's gonna get flushed out you know like that i'd i could sell a confirm on that if it's more about the future than it is a rental a rental I would deny on that clear right, but it's a great way to confirm. It's a great point, but again What do you have to give up for a guy of cousins? Because Buffalo has made it clear that they they don't need any more draft picks and and Futures they need live players to be better. What a crazy scenario they're in guys, Buffalo. Rumblings of guys not happy with the winning
Starting point is 00:39:31 culture and want like... What a vicious cycle, man. It's an awful cycle. But they've got pieces. I'll give you an example. Bowen Byron, this kid's 23. Now yes, he's had a few concussion issues but he's a nice player like he might be a top pairing defenseman and they've already got Dahlien there and power there you know so maybe he ends up at best their number three if those other guys I mean Dahlien's a good I think Dahlien's just got him like that's what I understand but what I'm saying they got rid of
Starting point is 00:40:01 Middlestad to get him. But Middlestad is... I don't know... something's... he's a talented player. I still thought that was weird for Colorado to add him in the two-hole there. But I... What is Cousins though? What do you think Cousins projects as? Do you think he's got bona fide number two centerman in that league? Yes, I do. I think he can be number two. I do. I think he has a chance to be a really good player in the league. Listen, he's got to, I think he's got to continue to fill out. He's got to get better. There's, there's details of his game, but I at 24 years old, I believe he is man like that. That's somebody I would take a, did you see Cockney? I mean, fight him the other day. That was crazy. I could not believe my
Starting point is 00:40:43 off the draw. Yeah. What is like Eric Lindra style? Yeah. I'm gonna kill you right now. Cockney Emmy man. He held his own in there. Like there's skies like that where there you have no idea. And if you think they're a wussy or so I did it myself. I missed six weeks because I thought a guy was a wussy from the Quebec League and he knocked my head right off. Yeah. Like that's a win by Cockney Hammy, man. Like that's a win.
Starting point is 00:41:13 And that, like look at him fired up, he can't pull it, in the Whaler's jersey too. Yeah, the Whaler jersey was a nice touch. I thought that. That always looks great. But okay, so if Buffalo decides, I agree that the only way I can You know agree with it not deny it is if they do something for the future and grab
Starting point is 00:41:32 Another player of that ilk like a high-end guy who's in mid 20s at best, right? It adds to the court as a part of the satchel Yeah, all right confirmed with deny the Dallas Maverick fans Have the right to be labeled the most pissed off fan base in North American sports. Dude, 100% confirm. And what I was trying to get to before somebody cut my audio back at the studio for that injury is going to lie right at the feet of that GM, man. Like he is, they're going to be like, you really suck now. Now Kyrie's and yeah, how good Lucas playing with LA
Starting point is 00:42:07 Have you seen him dialed in their own fire man throwing down the court alley-oops to LeBron? Well, that's what's amazing. He's revitalized LeBron LeBron was playing really well Anyway, you can see LeBron's alive man like at 40 the guys playing unbelievable, but you know, yeah He looks awful. That's an ACL c l a two blown out a c l like i reason for a long time street close you have no idea when he's gonna play they got pumped by portland last night they're likely they're still gonna make the plastic is phoenix is a mess i think they'll make the place i think what i will say is if lucas was still there
Starting point is 00:42:39 and kairi blew his knee out they'd still be a big trouble like they'd be a big trouble kairi's been a huge part of their program. But I'm actually gonna deny this because we just referenced the Buffalo Sabre fan. Like Maverick fans, I get why you're angry. You deserve to be angry. Luka was your guy and they traded him and now it's a mess. You were in the NBA Finals last year.
Starting point is 00:42:59 If you're a Sabre fan, they've been in the playoffs in like 14 years. What if you're a Cleveland Brown fan? You're at Dallas thing are you serious complaining to me I'm a Brown's fan how dare you suggest you're on my level Sabres 14 years yes been a long time man long time like we're talking Chris jury like Danny Brie air era I think right maybe just after that after that, but it's been a long time. Well, just think of it. I started doing this job 14 years ago and they haven't been in the playoffs one time.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Never covered the Sabres in the playoffs. Never. Yeah. Like, that's, I'm in the same boat as you since I've been here at DSN. I've never teed up a Sabres playoff series. Not once. That's staggering. Well, and it's not happening this year. I mean, it just, you know, the thing is, is haven't we lumped the Sabres fans in that they got the bills there? Eh, somewhat. So you just have to, because this Maverick, like that's a mess down there and people should
Starting point is 00:44:00 be pissed off. They traded a superstar in his prime, not even at his prime yet. And love being there too. Love Dallas. They should be the most pissed off. Because I think Sabres fans have agreed, like they've kind of come to terms with it going, okay, it's another, like that, this Dallas situation, that's a man. It's sharp. Yeah, it's very acute. It's an acute feeling right now. Yeah. All right. We'll continue with Confirm and Deny throughout the day. We've got Johnny
Starting point is 00:44:24 coming up, Mike Johnson in 15. Got Bruce on the show today, Bruce Boudreau, Jevon Shepherd teeing up. Again, the raps tonight, what they're going to do moving forward. Shay Gildes Alexander, what the Mavericks are going to possibly do in the future. There's a lot to get into with him. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on the TSN app. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:42 Mike Johnson in 15 minutes. Overdrive continues powered by FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. We'll get to our best butts later in the hour. He just want to hear some Fergie analysis from the 2008 Trade Center. I hope it's when Duthie says, if you were still the GM, would you pull the plug on this whole and he doesn't answer the question. Alright, well let's,'d believe that i had zack
Starting point is 00:45:06 back-and-forth jd this is seventeen years ago john ferguson junior on the panel not enough time if you were still the general manager of the lease with the for sale sign be out would everybody be available including sunday what you you take direction from your team and team and how your team is doing during the year and when you're hovering around in and out of the playoffs
Starting point is 00:45:29 and now number of points back, you know you've gotta recognize the opportunity to make a move. I was preparing and making calls for six to eight weeks before January 22nd when I was let go and those discussions were well underway. So you had to have that plan in place and we did and for the right now you'd be viewed the for sale sign will be out
Starting point is 00:45:50 correct what we've not a pretty good stuff there i like that i like that from for the new political you know the confirmed tonight it that's right that was not what you know what the business is all about when dot he says would differ sales sign be up he's looking for absolutely it's everything is for sale well and at that point that was that was a weird time no you take direction from your team and you gotta look firm or the least man it was a weird time the weird transition man because that would have been Cliff Fletcher I guess in there right I think that's did he make
Starting point is 00:46:23 the Koliakovos steam deal like for that right handed shot. Yeah for Lee Step the Act that didn't work out so well. But yeah it was a tough time. I love Cliff though. Cliff he's a beauty. Oh he's a legend. Absolute legend. But he's still every time I see him he still reminds me of Lieutenant Frank Drebben. Frank Drebben, the naked gun? The naked gun, he looks exactly like him. He does look like Leslie Nielsen. Leslie Nielsen, he looks exactly like him. I love him, what a great man.
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