OverDrive - OverDrive - March 4, 2025 - Hour 1
Episode Date: March 4, 2025Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' defeat to the Sharks, the Oilers acquiring Trent Federic in a trade, the Canadiens' hot win...ning streak for the team and the Canucks in the Stanley Cup Playoffs pursuit in the Western Conference. The guys discuss the headlines around the sports world in the latest edition of Confirm or Deny and Kyrie Irving's significant injury with the Mavericks.
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TSN for Brian Hazy, O'Doug, Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McClennan. What's going on?
How we doing this afternoon? If anybody out there was wondering why there's such
a thing as a broadcasters jinx, I saw you two idiots give no no no no yes yes yes yes yes
ridiculous and they get the lead after the second they never lose they never
lose they don't this was in the middle smiling away and then actually I did see
you go why did you even say that you called them out on it you did now we believe in a jinx look at you two now we're not
saying I guess that's why they call it a broadcasters jinx I guess and you're not
alone I had people writing me last night it's your fault the Leafs probably knew
that you were jinxing them as if that's what they were listening to before the
show and it's true it's the end of an era we played the Major League theme beliefs probably knew that you were jinxing them as if that's what they were listening to before the show
uh... and it's true it's the end of an era we played the major league theme
song coming in because they have one five in a row that is our that's just
that's that's shows all standard procedure yes standard procedure and
prior to last night i believe they were twenty four no
when leading in the third and naturally when does
the streak break with the worst team in the league you're up to nothing against the worst team in the league and you piss away a point last night and it actually got to a point when it was 2-2 I was kind of thinking just get to overtime or get a point like I was legitimately thinking this Celebrini kid's buzzing in the third man was he oppressive last night he is so crafty and he's hard on Pox and he's smart he
made a play off the the sideboard that I don't think anyone would have really
picked up on he like it was Will Smith was taken off and I think he missed him
on purpose to hit the board to beat the defenseman on the far side it was a
brilliant play he's unreal like to see his he's so good to see his growth
and like a year and a half from the world juniors prior to the last one and
then leading into the n.h.l.
that's impressive man
because he was good in the world juniors in sweden
but he wasn't like
dominant he just had his moments where you can tell he was going to be a good
offensive player
he had the cage on
and all the sudden the guys playing in the n.h.l. and in the march of the first
year he's playing
he's like a dominant player he's really good man
watching him
i think his games suits the n.h.l. maybe better than other leagues that's
probably what it is.
Oh, you know, you see guys that, you know, their game, what their strengths of their
game is what makes you have success at the NHL.
And I thought of last night, Celebrini, the details of his game at 18.
Like he's hard on pucks like John Tavares is hard on pucks.
You know, smart and handling the puck. He reminded me,
this is big shoes to fill, of kind of like a young John Tavares. I think he's a better
skater when it's all said and done. Tavares is heavy on pucks. He's good around the net
and got great vision and patience. Zelebrini has a lot of that at 18. I can't wait to see
what he's going to be like at 22 23
And that's what you should be first overall, right? I go first overall you you should be expected to show flashes
Almost immediately that you're you're the real deal and yeah
that's what he was he stripped Tavares late in the game last night to like below the dots and
You could tell that Tavares kind of looked at him like what are you doing
here?
And that's the trap that the Leafs fell in last night.
They'd been playing with fire, you know they had won five in a row in a very strange way
of winning five in a row and they're up two nothing against San Jose, they're going to
Vegas, they're probably thinking it's over, like let's just get out of here and in the
third period they fell asleep and they got caved in on multiple occasions like veterans getting caved in where you know
There's Tavares chasing guys around and I thought Riley and Ekman Larson were awful in the third period last night awful and
Stolars, you know was glued to his right post
Yeah, he had both goals and he had some some lateral lateral movement issues last night on that side.
But I mean, listen, he had made a couple good saves
and that one was like, you get caught outside the post here,
you got jammed up on the post.
But Yarncroak could have helped him, right?
Maybe pick up your man.
Like how soft is that check in front?
That's your guy.
To foal, you gotta get underneath that stick there.
That's Yarncroak.
First game, which I actually thought he had a little jump.
He let me. I did too. Yeah, I did too.
It's going to be interesting to see what they have in Vegas because you wonder if like the
hockey gods plus just the odds are going to recalibrate because I don't want to use the
word bluffing, but they've been picking up some points where it's like, ah, like that
Pittsburgh game, the San Jose game,
it's like, are you gonna start getting clubbed now?
Like, that's it, the Vegas game is where they need to like,
a good team will just buckle down and be like,
okay, we got a couple real deal Holyfield teams
coming up here Wednesday and Saturday
and we gotta be dialed in for it.
Forget about anything that's happened in the last 10 days,
let's play real hockey
absolutely, and they have the luxury of banking all those points and you know, Florida won last night and
They're right there with Florida Tampa. They got a bit of a buffer on them
But Tampa's got some games in hand and they're gonna play Tampa again. They're gonna play Florida twice more
Yeah, and those three games are likely going to determine how this division
is going to break out. And it's a long season. Every team in the league is going to have
some ups and downs. And I think the sign of a good team and a sign of things that are
kind of breaking your way is that even when you don't feel great, you're still rocking
up points. And that's what the Leafs have been doing here. They haven't been playing
like spectacularly well
but still racking up points and
uh... i i think tomorrow is a platform game
we get only only so many of them down the stretch i would say that you're
this for the one against hamper
and then baguette's in colorado like those are probably the
games you're you're kinda circling and looking at and thinking okay these are
platform games like these are big boy games
let's see what we got here coming home
But they're in a good position and you know Storrs again It was the he gave up two goals and it's talking to doogie and you know
The reaction as well was it his fault or whatever
I mean gave up two goals Storrs been great this year and he gave up two and then the shootout
They haven't had a shootout all year
like it was a weird experience watching the shootout last night because they're the last team in
the league to have one.
It's like you had this shootout withdrawal almost.
It was taking place and I'm like, what is this, man?
We haven't seen this in a long time.
Now you hit the road and you also buckle up for Friday.
They're going to be on the road.
I don't know if it matters.
You guys can speak to it when you're playing in the league.
It's a matter if you're at home on the road
for the trade deadline, I'm not sure.
But you know, teams are starting to move.
We're starting to see some moves now
and it sounds like some things are starting
to really heat up around the league.
Man, oh man, like that Frederick deal,
like Ebbetson paid, I mean, listen,
they got a guy for 500 grand.
Like that's in a hell of a player and I don't know if he's going to play, it sounds like he's banged
up and might not resurface till near the end of the season, if not the end of the season,
but you know, they had to pay a price. If you follow the trail of it, now that's Scott
Lachance's son who was in that deal
who is the head pro scout of the new jersey devils so he's all the jersey
shale chance yeah shale chan and he's a nice player to see how to
yeah it but you're you know he's a sixth rounder to ebb and to news
kind of a late bloomer six five like
you again you know scoring a stop power forward
but ebb and had to of pay a price there to
get Frederick and that Jones is a big character too, can move.
So I mean-
Yeah, hasn't been playing much, but I always liked him.
I never understood why he didn't pop in the NHL.
I liked him in Anaheim.
Yeah, me too.
I thought he was a- but again, I don't think Edmonton's done.
That's the one thing.
Now they did address a need up front, some need up front if you
have a big guy, if they get Kane back depending on...
You think that's enough up front though, Jamie? Like watching them play a couple times over
the last 10 days, it's like they're... I don't know, it's like a lot of McDavid and Dry-Cytle
and then after that they don't have the mojo of those guys last year. You know what I mean?
That third line. Well, I mean, R&H, that third line is really good.
It's just they haven't, they haven't kind of just been like Edmonton, you know.
It's, Henrique's a really good number three centerman.
I like that, what's his name?
I know, but my only concern is that they're relying on them to recapture that magic of
last year and if they don't do it, they could be in trouble.
Yeah, I mean, you can add, like, I think that Arvidsson is a guy who's small and he's been
injured so that's the guy they probably need to replace or have him be healthy
that's the biggest challenge but I they've got lots of depth there and I
think they're going to if you got to figure out what you're gonna do with Kane
if you get a man Kane for free at the deadline or at the for playoffs now
again easier said than done like everyone's like oh Mark Stone and and If you get a man came for free at the deadline or at the for playoffs now again
Easier said than done like everyone's like oh mark stone and and kutra off those guys are special special players like
It's tough to jump on a moving train right at the end of the season
He's been at the whole year to that that's like stone. He was talking about him yesterday. He's like I want to come back
Well, that's the that's what is being reported that Kane and the team kind of don't see eye to eye
on his timeline.
And he wants to play.
Well, they might have to move him, guys.
Well, I wouldn't move him, though.
I'd be very reluctant to do that because of what he represents
and how he can play.
Yeah, he's a unique guy.
You're going to move him for what?
Like, I like Tred Frederick.
Frederick is a good player.
I think he's a poor man's Ev Vander King. I think that's what he is
He's a poor man's of Vander King when Kane is playing at his best
He's capable of scoring can play with very good players like Frederick's not playing with McDavid
That's not that's not gonna happen
He's some of the runs that Edmontons have been on guys Kane has been like the three guy like he's been the guy that scores
Hits causes problems like he's been unreal at different times in their playoffs
You go back to that playoff the Battle of Alberta that Calgary series
It was Kane that tormented them in a came went right after Matthew Kachuk and neutralized him
And then that's where that allowed the rest in the go nuts and Kane also scored a hat trick in that series and was
An absolute force you're right, but you can't just go okay. I'm ready to play rest in the go nuts and Kane also scored a hat trick in that series and was an absolute
force you're right but you can't just go okay I'm ready to play I'm gonna do that like you
have to have to build like that's the big challenge.
Yeah I mean it's tricky it's very tricky because the nature of the sport right now and with
the finite salary cap and because we're a few days away from the trade deadline now
you got to make a decision between now and Friday.
That's when you have to make a call.
You've got to know his answer, whether or not he's willing to quote unquote take one
for the team and arrive game one.
What's it going to look like at that point?
There's also some gambling on Edmonton's side.
That'll be a guy who hadn't played in a full year coming off multiple surgeries, not a
young guy.
What's it going to look like? I mean, it's a complicated scenario, but I like the Trent Frederick pickup.
I like the Habs re-signing Jake Evans.
I like that play too.
He got four years, got some security, a little bit of money.
They won again last night.
The Habs are a point out.
Every day we come in here and we're like, well, who's going to be a buyer?
Who's going to be a seller?
What appears clear now is Boston's selling.
Boston is going to sell.
Marchand is week to week.
McEvoy's out.
Lindholm's out.
They played more games than anyone.
I don't think they trust who they are.
And I don't think they really want to just back door in and get pumped.
So they're going to sell.
Who else is going to go out the door?
We're not certain.
But Boston's going to sell.
New York's not going to.
Ottawa's not going to.
I don't believe.
And I don't think Montreal's going to. I think Montreal is just going to, Ottawa's not going to, I don't believe, and I don't think Montreal's
going to.
I think Montreal's just going to kind of plug along.
It doesn't mean they're going to be a buyer, but I think they might look at it and say,
why not?
We've got 20 games left.
We're a great hockey market.
We're kind of in the race.
How can you try to-
That means guys like David Savard will just not trade them.
But that's the thing.
I still would sell, but it depends on who, guys.
That's the thing.
David Savard, do they have somebody internally that could get some of his minutes?
Well, Ryan Bacher's the guy in the future, but he's not playing right now.
There's your right shot defenseman, top four, but he's not going to be part of the program.
What are you going to sell a guy like that for anyway?
What the hell is that, if it's a third round pick what the host
the sense while you're right you're right
but you see montreal did a really savvy move
while back
they got that carrier
from nashville he's a really like a really good defenseman
solid skates moves the park
so that made subard more expendable because of art
got pushed down the lineup.
So if you can get something for them, a younger player, something, like I agree, like you're not,
I'm not saying blow it up, but I just, I look at Montreal and I still believe they're going to end up
with something in the 80s. I don't know if they'll make the playoffs, but it's a great run, it's a great
story and a lot of these guys have taken a step.
But if there is players that need to, whether they are on expiring contracts or you can
find room for other guys pushing through, I don't think you change the course because
the team has had success.
If anything, you got to continue to allow them to battle and play meaningful games.
That's what they're trying to do right now. Yeah.
I just, Jake Evans is a unique situation because he's, what is he, 27?
28, I think.
28 and that's less than 3 million.
And he's a dead player.
Exactly.
You know what he is.
And he's a good player.
But I mean, if they could find Dvorak a home, somebody like that, you know.
You might be able to make those moves without really affecting your wins and loss column, right?
That's not that's probably the best way to do it is kind of plug away
If someone wants to pick up a veteran piece off you you move and you go from there
Listen, I've wavered on the Habs. We've had these conversations where you know a couple months ago
I was like you still got to sell you got to sell you got to sell to their credit
You know, they've gone up and down up and down at one five in a row again
And they're back there point out and I think you know to if you're Nick Suzuki
Who's who's committed to your franchise and is your captain?
You know it's it's tough to tell him
We're just we don't believe in you with your actions, and that's what it would be telling them publicly
They'd say the right thing now
We believe in the guys bogus if you trade veteran
guys who are important pieces
You don't believe like you don't really believe you're gonna get in so these guys aren't stupid
Caulfield hit 30 goals last night, you know Slavkovsky's doing what he did last year a
second half
He's starting to pick it up a little bit and it's the market and you got an order there
Who's probably like hey, we wouldn't mind a little bit of buzz in Montreal through you got a Montreal radio hit tomorrow
Don't you hey, I'm in Montreal tomorrow
I am oh my god
to the boys all of a sudden
I knew it I
Knew it I I have I have gone up and down with this. I don't think they're legitimate
They're not a contending team like don't get me wrong
They're not they're not winning anything and I I would if you ask me to put money on it right now
Do I think they'll make the playoffs? I would say no that would be my bet and that would be my guess
But they're a point out, you know, you know, this is a you're not asking me to think Buffalo's gonna make it or Pittsburgh
What's wrong with saying you guys have a chance? So good for them
And they bury them they've they battled hard man. Yeah, they have they stayed in the right
I thought they were sunk like a couple weeks ago when they
say they started really leaking oil
and it looked and here's another part of it
you're looking at it and it's columbus
in detroit
in auto walk they don't have any playoff history
like you know looking at them said man they scare the hell out of me they're
going to snap out of it for the last 20 games and run off of 15 and 5 record
You can't feel that way about any of those teams right now
No, you know like that was a big point Ottawa got last night like they down three cops three nothing
And it was like everything was going downhill on them and they battled and they picked up a point that was significant
Like you need to you need to have that a lot down the stretch
You're picking up points where maybe you weren't supposed to get them.
The thing is, Montreal's been so streaky.
Could we be talking two weeks from now and they've lost four or five?
Absolutely.
Easily.
Absolutely.
That's my point is I think it's great.
You guys know where I stood.
Right from day one, I thought they were an 84- team in that, you know, in the playing meaningful hockey, which is right now, playing me and this Hudson kids a player, you know, Caulfields found
another level here, line eight, you know, listen, in and out of the doghouse.
But there's been some great storylines in Montreal, which is awesome.
And I hope they, you know, they get whatever they they deserve here down the stretch.
But I still think if you're sitting there and you're going, okay, we have a plan in place,
I don't think you deviate from it
because you've got a five game winning streak going.
I think you go, hey, we're gonna trim the outer edges here,
we've got players that we're gonna try,
we've got players pushing through.
Or if there's a deal that makes sense, make it,
because you're gonna make your team better for the future as well.
I don't think they're going to change the course, but again, I'm just on the outside
looking in, but that's just my...
I would say that the Evans deal is an interesting one because Doc is out for the year.
I think Evans looked at it and said, I got an opportunity here.
I can play.
You can't rely on Kirby, Doc.
He's hurt all the time.
I don't know what his don't you can't rely on Kirby Doc he's hurt all the time right I don't know what his future is gonna be and they
could have looked at that and said we got to move now it's not gonna work and
we're gonna move Evans and they they chose to sign him and I think they got a
pretty good deal considering the way he's been playing I thought it would be
a lot more money than that to be honest with you like I thought he'd be a
four-million-dollar guy well you got 2.85 it's I think Pierre LeBun was
reporting that the Habs kind of held strong and said what we like you
This is what we can give you you make the decision if you want to be a Montreal Canadian and he made that choice
His credit it is both their credits. It's four million. It's four million in free agency. Oh, it's two point eight five
You want to stay with the program where you're comfortable where you've been drafted developed in you?
Yeah, you know probably own a home their home and want to grow with the program where you're comfortable where you've been drafted developed and you know
Probably own a home their home and want to grow with these guys and continue to me
I I like that move from both sides. He probably I don't know if he's ever had a four-year deal in his career
He's a guy who's I think he's a seventh rounder battle. Yeah, for sure battled and
They didn't overpay for the player
You know if anything that's a slight hometown discount because I guarantee you
there's a lot of teams that would give him something with a three or four in it
in free agency based on, you know, what he brings to the table.
He's a nice player.
Yeah, for sure.
And like every year, you know, the Canadian teams are front and center
and they're going to be because, you know, the Leafs have to figure out
what they're going to do here and who if they're going to pay a price you know like what how comfortable they are everyone's focusing on the same thing the
2026 first rounder Ben Danford Easton Cowan Fraser Mitten like those are the big four that's the you know the the number
one topic in town which one you give up which one are you reluctant to move off of and what they have to determine is
Which ones are gonna be the best players not which ones are gonna help you the quickest
Which ones are gonna be the best players like you got to know your prospects as well as you can and you know
I don't know anybody Hayes. Yeah better than anyone exactly
You have to know exactly what Easton Cowan is gonna be in five years
It as closely as you can what Ben Ben Danford is going to be.
Fraser Minton. And find a way to move off the third one in the pecking order if you're comfortable in doing that.
But they're not alone. Montreal again making signings. Ottawa. I'm curious what they do between now and the deadline.
And it sure sounds like Vancouver. Vancouver is a fascinating scene right now.
Because I guess Pederson just spoke with the media and Kind of had a mea culpa on his own play and taking accountability for it and walked back his media comments
From last week when he was in Utah and talked about how annoying it is to deal with the media
You know Brock Besser. He's number two. I believe on TSN trade bait board that guy scores goals
You know, he's going a lot of goals last year a lot of playoff goals like big playoff goals last year and if you're gonna move
off him look at JT Miller he did it again last night JT Miller has more
points than Elias Pettersson has shots I saw that is a staggering statistic
staggering statistic and if you're in Vancouver what are you doing like if
Bess is gonna walk and you're gonna trade Patterson
Who is scoring out there? They can't score anyway
Who is gonna give you offense? What are you gonna possibly do with your future?
Think about like a fan calling one of their friends
From a faraway place last year saying
My team the Vancouver Canucks is so dialed in
were young worse we got studs at every position needed
we've got quinn hughes j t miller peterson and then call in that and we
are locked in loaded were probably going to win a cop in five years
magic calling back in giving an update on on your team i know
it's staggering
stagering do you know it's staggering staggering do you think anything out there it's not what's happening in
vancouver i have a close contact dear friend of mine in vancouver who is
will call them carl from cloverdale that's the because he calls in and he
talks to all of
he's got a real good pulse of vancouver
and he's so disappointed
but he actually go back to not be noodles but don't but he's so disappointed but he actually goes back to... How could you not be noodles?
But no, but he's realistic. He goes back to moves that were made four and five years ago
going we should have done this, could have pivoted here, but we doubled down here, did this
and you know he's talking Louis Erickson signing, he's talking Oliver Ekman, Oliver Ekman-Larsen
Yeah, but that one, those are all buried and gone away.
They're gone now.
But what it happens is there's a layer effect because it affects where they pick, affects
draft picks that went out, players that didn't get an opportunity.
He's saying you have to.
He's terrified.
And this is, again, this is his wording wording but he's a dear friend of mine say
quinn-hughes might just put his hand up and that's the question i think he's
got two years left and it like a peterson goes and if i get besters gone
i don't know if them goes ever going to be reliable again
what do you what do you what is vancouver
but i i honestly quinn-hughes is u f a in two years
i believe he is the Yeah, I believe so
We got a check will fact check that check that out
But I'm I'm pretty sure it's coming up, but even coming up even guys like okay So regardless whether he was ufa in there five years or not my point being is this guy?
Vancouver's I believe in a playoff spot right now
Well, that is the crazy thing all the the bumps and ups and downs, you look at the record,
it's like in a playoff spot and it's like, how?
Every team out there right now is giving it back.
They're like, oh, sorry, Calgary's in that spot,
but they literally are tied with Vancouver.
St. Louis a point behind, Utah two points behind.
And so I'm looking at this. Who's grabbing that spot? Vancouver could legitimately on the back of Quinn Hughes grab a playoff spot.
Like and and and listen, you play Winnipeg, which you know, Winnipeg is a great team, but they got their scar tissue too in the playoffs. So so I my thing is, is that eight spot is wide open for three or four teams that either are going
to put their hand up or are going to trade pieces at the deadline and going to try and
do it with young hungry players.
It still might get in.
It still might get in.
Exactly.
Because it looks like 89 points will get you in there.
Yeah.
Quinn Hughes is in year four of six.
He's got two years left after this and then he's a free agent of the twenty
seven at that time lots can change a lot of change
if you're vancouver you've got next july like july first twenty twenty six
circled saying
fit what what do you what we have to pay you
yeah what is the deal you you put up but number down and we will sign it
and
you know you're looking at a
scenario where a lot can change because look where we were this time last year, they were
the hottest team in the league. And now they're a dumpster fire. Yeah, but yeah, it's, it's
I'd ask them even before that, like, try to get a read. Yeah, just get a read and say,
look, dude, you probably have an idea what the hell's going on here. Like, just get a read and say look dude you probably have an idea what the hell's going on here like just give us a
Heads up like if it's just a no let us know because
We got a team to put on earth man like if that happens
Oh, literally in there you're preparing for the next five years of being the worst team of the week thing is though
I don't think that's we see how quickly teams turn
I will say this and I've been saying this alone like that San Jose team
I think is gonna has got something going there a couple years from now
couple years if they get that Schaeffer kid if they get first overall and drop
that Schaeffer kid and they've got a couple other kids that can develop and
they insulate him with some good veterans I think the year after next
they could make the playoffs sure but I like the young goalie ask her off they're
developing him in the Russian carry price that never plays in the NHL. And never plays that well
at the World Juniors, but everywhere else he's been brilliant. Like I like him as a
goalie, again, he's a wild card, but he's a good goaltender. Celebrini, Eklund. But
it started two years ago though, Noodle's. Yeah. But that's the thing, they're headed
in the right direction. Sure. Like direction i would argue it'll be five years
i would argue san jose is going to be better than a lot of these teams
that are in the middle
and haven't rebuilt
and are are good gonna try and retool on the fly like san jose at least have some
pieces and a guy to build around like
well i think san jose is going to be better chicago and it's a performance
and luck like san jose said you know San Jose is going to be better in Chicago in two years. It's performance and luck. San Jose said, you know what, we're going to be terrible.
And they got the pick, and the pick hit. And he's showing signs that he is a first overall
pick and the organization is going to benefit from him. It's an organizational changer where
it's some other guys. and you're seeing the middling
teams like the Calgary's if you just you're kind of in you're kind of out you don't really
have a lottery pick you don't make the playoffs if you do you get just dumb in the first round
it's a bad place to be.
That's my point is they knew what they were doing and it looks ugly and it's still listen
they're in third last place in the league aren't they are second Santa say they're in dead last
Oh, I thought Chicago was behind them, but no they're I mean they picked up two points last night
But they say might have jumped they have taken like there anyone that's I mean anyway. It doesn't matter
But yes, I I hear what you're saying they yeah, they're still lost. There's still four points back in Chicago
That's how bad that loss was by the Leafs last night. I get it. You're not going to play every game. You're up 2-0 against San Jose.
That has to be a formality.
For what you saw last night, let me name some teams that are ahead of them and you tell me
two to three years from now if you believe San Jose will be better than them, okay, Chicago. Yes
Buffalo. Yes, Seattle
Yes, I don't know what Seattle is anymore. I don't Pittsburgh. Yes
Yeah, right and I think Anaheim's got some good and I'm kind of moving a little right but you know there there's
Nashville is kind of in the middle. I think the out Nashville is gonna be I think they'll read that's a different Who knows what they're doing? But I've seen the stamp code stats. I know we're getting off track here
13 goals zero points 13 games start their 13 games zero zero zero
Like Sam Mitchell see we got guys
Zero zero I didn't see that that slips zero cracks there from zeros. He's got feathers in 13 games 13 games
Noodles. Yes. So I'll tell you what this Gensel scoring and looks pretty damn that was a hell of a game last night
I was watching that always are playing pretty well down there man. That's a scary noodles
That's what we were talking about earlier. I thought that's with our day Jonas was no
And I don't think I was walking on this and Hayes said that's the last
I wasn't think Jonas walked back. Jonas and Hayes said Vasileski. That's not true.
I wasn't as hard.
Everyone else did something and you have your hands clean on every single comment.
That's right.
Yeah, I'm over there.
But Jonas was very harsh.
I was in the middle.
I was factual.
Like the facts were that the Leafs got to Vasileski a couple of years ago.
He was brutal in that series. And couple years ago he was brutal not series
and then last year was just okay
but now he's really start to rock in bob is rockstar
yeah it's uh... vasileski second in the league in say percentage by a book
well they jump stole us last night
custodial is stores have been right there the whole time
that i haven't played enough games i I always punch in like- Gotta have 30 starts?
Well, you've gotta be the number one guy,
not a guy who just shows up here and there.
Every once in a while.
You gotta be a guy, like, for me, I go on the number ones.
The Autinger, Vasilevski, Logan Thompson's
fallen into that, like, game started.
I always punch in like 25 to 30.
Yeah.
Stolars hasn't had that.
That's pretty terrifying for teams in the East.
Yeah.
I will say that, It's pretty terrifying.
If Asileski got to reset and is back to where he was three years ago, it's...
But meanwhile, Florida won that game.
Like that's the crazy part.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I mean, again, that's why that point, you can't piss away a point against San Jose.
You can't do that.
Because you've got to avoid these two teams
It's it's so obvious find a way to play Columbus, you know, Ottawa, New York, whatever
Alright confirmed that I coming up Mike Johnson will join us just after five o'clock. We are confirmed tonight today
We get the Raptors in action some crazy NBA news, man
We'll ask the question, you know, cuz we just talked about the Canucks fans
We're the Mavs fans currently stand Kyrie Irving done for the year with a torn ACL
It's just incredible what's going on out there. Shea Gilder's Alexander with 50 plus last night
Shea is on fire. He's I think a lock to win the MVP and we'll get into that more still to come
Yeah, there goes oh we'll get him back i will get back to figure out what his face
areas now that i forget we're good we get a lot to their first second line
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i can either confirm or deny that uh... that this is in fact is a
and I can neither confirm or deny that this is in fact a significant... Austin trades Andrew Raycroft to Toronto in exchange for the rights to Tuca Arras.
It's been my honor and a privilege to serve as the General Manager of the Toronto Maple
Leafs Hockey Club.
It's time for Confirm or Deny.
Do you regret giving all those gentlemen the no trades or no movement clauses?
I can neither confirm or deny that. I can neither confirm or deny that.
I can't confirm or deny.
All right, confirm or deny.
And I saw a clip of Trade Center back in the day go viral the other night.
And I'm pretty sure Fergie, yeah, Dreg's hair was unbelievable.
Jimmy, it was jet black.
Yes.
He dyed it for sure back in that day
It was dude. I'm telling you maybe it's just because we're getting older his hair is the blackest hair
I've ever seen on a white dude in my life
Shoe polish it was that's the first thing I noticed when they went to it
Who was it gourd Bobby back turn to the right? I'm like, that'sgg's in a wig yeah that's all it was was Dregg's gourd and Bob and
yeah Dregg's it looked like they had dipped his head fresh dip we got to get
confirmation on that morning but it looked good it was there was not a hair
out of place but what stood out to me was Fergie was on the main panel. Fergie?
Pardon me?
I'm pretty sure.
He is.
John Ferguson Jr. sitting there with Duffy breaking down trades.
He is.
Fergie was on the panel.
We've got to get video up.
Send a note to the Quizmaster.
I swear I'll smash every piece of electronics.
I'm pretty sure he's up on the walls at Studio 6
as like a former teammate of yours, I guess.
There is video of Fergie on the panel.
Yes, Trade Center, oh wait, it looks like McGuire, Fergie,
I don't know who's beside him there, and then Duthie.
That's probably where the audio.
Millberry, it's Millberry.
Is it Mike Millberry?
Mike Millberry. That's probably where the audio of D's millberry is it mike millbury mike no
I don't know where the audio of duffy where he says do you regret giving those guys
And what great analysis I can't confirm or deny that okay. Thanks. Here's our other panel. I'll go to commercial that
We're gonna bring you in for a full day of analysis. Your thoughts on this.
I can't confirm or deny.
Do you like that move by Jersey?
I can't confirm or deny that.
Any questions?
Remember, what did he say?
Did he have a speech when he got Yannick Perot?
He was like, guys.
That was in the room right with you guys.
Did he get the guy who's good on draws, Yannick Perot, wasn't it?
Oh, I walked in and he goes, both start out the team for a move, brought in Luke Richardson
and Yannick Perot.
Let's go get them, guys.
That's inspiring.
I love Luke Richardson.
I love Luke.
Well, they were both former Leafs, too, right?
Like, Yannick Perot started his career as a Leaf.
Dude, I'm telling you, the best Fergie thing of all time is he came in and Ty Domey got
us all BMW. Oh my God.
There he is. Look at Dregg's hair. That is outrageous.
That's not a fresh dip. That's him from Saskatchewan. That's just him young.
Dude, that is jet black hair, man.
Man, he looks young and he is cut.
The suit looks butter.
Look at Bobby writing down the trade.
Bob's like, oh, that's an interesting move.
Yeah, that was Marion Hosa back in the day when he got traded from Atlanta.
And the deal, you look back on it, the names, they got like-
Colby Armstrong.
Yeah, I mean, Colby's a good player. Frank Esposito, their names, they got like Colby Armstrong. Yeah.
I mean, Colby's a good player.
Frank Esposito, wasn't it?
Was it?
Angelo Esposito.
Yeah.
Angelo Esposito.
Yeah.
Isn't there a Frank Esposito here in Toronto that made the...
No, it's not.
I know who you're talking about.
It's not Frank Esposito.
Frank Angelo.
Frank Angelo.
That's who it is.
It's not Esposito.
He made the Monster drink. Yeah. He had like, he, I'm gonna go to the But obviously, that was when HOSA went there, didn't win, then went to Detroit, didn't
win, and then eventually went to Chicago and won three times.
So I'd say it worked out pretty well for HOSA.
But yeah, Fergie, there he is.
Looking great, Fergie.
We need to go into the archives.
We need to find some Fergie analysis if we can.
Send it in if you have it.
Dig it up and send it to
adhase TSN or overdrive because I want to see clips of his mojo on TV.
If they keep having all these trades we're gonna have to pull up clips of Fergie on
Friday because we can't sit there for eight hours and you know do nothing. To
me we're gonna have to have something. We'll go back to Fergie clips.
We're two trades away from llama time.
Like there'll be animals in there.
What the llama Geno has got a bad signal to get the lamb as if there's two more trades
because it's going to be tough.
It is something we need to happen.
And we need Marty, Baran and Hedge to go at it again.
And but yeah, I think that you know what I would love a compare and contrast of Fergie's on and hedge to go at it again with the Pesaro's.
I would love a compare and contrast of Fergie's analysis to the old dog Jeff O'Neill's analysis
today.
You know how great it would be if you used...
Dude, are you actually going to compare me to Fergie as an analyst?
I don't remember him on that panel.
I'm saying if we could find a clip where he hammers some sort of analysis and then it's
thrown to you and you kind of
have to compare and contrast how you would feel about that deal.
There's something there.
I think there's something there we can dig up.
Might be a specific overdrive bid.
I'm not sure the guys at the Trade Center are that interested in it.
That's what it would be called, Fergie Clips.
Fergie Clips.
All right, Confirm or deny?
Confirm or deny?
The Montreal Canadiens should be buyers at the deadline.
Not buyers.
I'm denying it.
If you don't want to sell some pieces and you signed Evans, if you don't want to get
rid of Savard, you can just stamp that and say, you know what?
Because if you're just dumping guys for third round picks, although
it's a tough one because there's all different kinds of scenarios.
Like, if a guy's got a year or two left and you don't really want them around and somebody
wants them, then go ahead and get rid of them.
But I don't think they should be sellers where they're just like, take anything you want.
They got to give those guys some kind of chance to break through.
I'm denying it.
I think they stay with the course.
I made my case in the four o'clock,
or in the first segment.
I think they've had an up and down season,
but kind of where we believe they would be,
playing meaningful minutes.
I don't think you start changing the course
and grabbing somebody to add here and there.
Unless, again, it comes back to what Osing, if it makes sense.
If you can get somebody with term.
Well, that's it, Noodle.
Let's say Buffalo is, now that's a difficult one because they're within the division and
they've kind of been on par with each other.
Like Buffalo, I have no idea what they're doing.
I have no idea what Buffalo thinks they're doing, what they think they have, where they
think they're going.
But let's say
dylan cousins is available
right now that is uki be a lineup for that that's the thing like dock i think
is a guy that they're not going to really rely on jake evans is a guy that
he's at ease further down the lineup
the borough's gonna get flushed out
you know like that i'd i could sell a confirm on that if it's
more about the future than it is a rental a rental
I would deny on that clear right, but it's a great way to confirm. It's a great point, but again
What do you have to give up for a guy of cousins?
Because Buffalo has made it clear that they they don't need any more draft picks and and
Futures they need live players to be better.
What a crazy scenario they're in guys, Buffalo. Rumblings of guys not happy with the winning
culture and want like... What a vicious cycle, man.
It's an awful cycle.
But they've got pieces. I'll give you an example. Bowen Byron, this kid's 23. Now yes, he's
had a few concussion issues but
he's a nice player like he might be a top pairing defenseman and they've
already got Dahlien there and power there you know so maybe he ends up at
best their number three if those other guys I mean Dahlien's a good I think
Dahlien's just got him like that's what I understand but what I'm saying they got rid of
Middlestad to get him. But Middlestad is... I don't know... something's... he's a talented player. I
still thought that was weird for Colorado to add him in the two-hole there. But I...
What is Cousins though? What do you think Cousins projects as? Do you think
he's got bona fide number two centerman in that league? Yes, I do. I think he can be
number two. I do. I think he has a chance to be a really good player in the league. Listen, he's got to, I think he's got to
continue to fill out. He's got to get better. There's, there's details of his game, but
I at 24 years old, I believe he is man like that. That's somebody I would take a, did
you see Cockney? I mean, fight him the other day. That was crazy. I could not believe my
off the draw. Yeah.
What is like Eric Lindra style? Yeah. I'm gonna kill you right now. Cockney Emmy man.
He held his own in there. Like there's skies like that where there you have no idea. And
if you think they're a wussy or so I did it myself. I missed six weeks because I thought
a guy was a wussy from the Quebec League and he knocked my head right off.
Yeah.
Like that's a win by Cockney Hammy, man.
Like that's a win.
And that, like look at him fired up,
he can't pull it, in the Whaler's jersey too.
Yeah, the Whaler jersey was a nice touch.
I thought that.
That always looks great.
But okay, so if Buffalo decides,
I agree that the only way I can
You know agree with it not deny it is if they do something for the future and grab
Another player of that ilk like a high-end guy who's in mid 20s at best, right?
It adds to the court as a part of the satchel
Yeah, all right confirmed with deny the Dallas Maverick fans
Have the right to
be labeled the most pissed off fan base in North American sports. Dude, 100% confirm.
And what I was trying to get to before somebody cut my audio back at the studio for that injury
is going to lie right at the feet of that GM, man. Like he is, they're going to be like,
you really suck now. Now Kyrie's and yeah, how good Lucas playing with LA
Have you seen him dialed in their own fire man throwing down the court alley-oops to LeBron?
Well, that's what's amazing. He's revitalized LeBron LeBron was playing really well
Anyway, you can see LeBron's alive man like at 40 the guys playing unbelievable, but you know, yeah
He looks awful. That's an ACL c l a two blown out a c l
like i reason for a long time street close you have no idea when he's gonna
play they got pumped by portland last night they're likely they're still gonna
make the plastic is phoenix is a mess i think they'll make the place i think
what i will say is if lucas was still there
and kairi blew his knee out they'd still be a big trouble
like they'd be a big trouble kairi's been a huge part of their program.
But I'm actually gonna deny this
because we just referenced the Buffalo Sabre fan.
Like Maverick fans, I get why you're angry.
You deserve to be angry.
Luka was your guy and they traded him and now it's a mess.
You were in the NBA Finals last year.
If you're a Sabre fan, they've been in the playoffs
in like 14 years.
What if you're a Cleveland Brown fan? You're at Dallas thing are you serious complaining to me I'm a
Brown's fan how dare you suggest you're on my level Sabres 14 years yes been a
long time man long time like we're talking Chris jury like Danny Brie air
era I think right maybe just after that after that, but it's been a long time.
Well, just think of it. I started doing this job 14 years ago and they haven't been in
the playoffs one time.
Never covered the Sabres in the playoffs. Never.
Yeah.
Like, that's, I'm in the same boat as you since I've been here at DSN. I've never teed
up a Sabres playoff series. Not once. That's staggering.
Well, and it's not happening this year. I mean, it just, you know, the thing is, is
haven't we lumped the Sabres fans in that they got the bills there?
Eh, somewhat.
So you just have to, because this Maverick, like that's a mess down there and people should
be pissed off. They traded a superstar in his prime, not even at his prime yet.
And love being there too. Love Dallas.
They should be the most pissed off. Because I think Sabres fans have agreed, like they've
kind of come to terms with it going, okay, it's another, like that, this Dallas situation,
that's a man.
It's sharp. Yeah, it's very acute. It's an acute feeling
right now. Yeah.
All right. We'll continue with Confirm and Deny throughout the day. We've got Johnny
coming up, Mike Johnson in 15.
Got Bruce on the show today, Bruce Boudreau, Jevon Shepherd teeing up.
Again, the raps tonight, what they're going to do moving forward.
Shay Gildes Alexander, what the Mavericks are going to possibly do in the future.
There's a lot to get into with him.
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We'll get to our best butts later in the hour.
He just want to hear some Fergie analysis from the 2008 Trade Center.
I hope it's when Duthie says, if you were still the GM, would you pull the plug on this
whole and he doesn't answer the question.
Alright, well let's,'d believe that i had zack
back-and-forth jd this is seventeen years ago
john ferguson junior on the panel
not enough time if you were
still the general manager of the lease
with the for sale sign be out
would everybody be available including sunday
what you you take direction from your team and team and how your team is doing during the year
and when you're hovering around in and out of the playoffs
and now number of points back,
you know you've gotta recognize the opportunity
to make a move.
I was preparing and making calls for six to eight weeks
before January 22nd when I was let go
and those discussions were well underway.
So you had to have that plan in place and we did and for the right now you'd be
viewed the for sale sign will be out
correct what we've
not a pretty good stuff there i like that i like that from for the new
political you know the confirmed tonight it that's right that was not what you
know what the business is all about when dot he says would differ sales sign be
up he's looking for absolutely it's everything is for sale well and at that point that was that was
a weird time no you take direction from your team and you gotta look firm or
the least man it was a weird time the weird transition man because that would
have been Cliff Fletcher I guess in there right I think that's did he make
the Koliakovos steam deal like for that right handed shot. Yeah for Lee Step the Act that
didn't work out so well. But yeah it was a tough time. I love Cliff though. Cliff he's
a beauty. Oh he's a legend. Absolute legend. But he's still every time I see him he still
reminds me of Lieutenant Frank Drebben. Frank Drebben, the naked gun?
The naked gun, he looks exactly like him.
He does look like Leslie Nielsen.
Leslie Nielsen, he looks exactly like him.
I love him, what a great man.
Trader Cliff.
Alright, our two coming up, conformer, then I will continue and Mike Johnson will join
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