OverDrive - OverDrive - March 5, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: March 5, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Insider Darren Dreger joins to discuss Mikko Rantanen's interest around the NHL, Jack Hughes' season-ending injury and the Lightning adding Oliver Bjorkstrand and Yanni Gourde from the Kraken. The guys discuss the Oilers' issues in the spotlight, Connor McDavid suboptimal performances and Maple Leafs' options to add to the team.

Thinking about the future? Think Conestoga College. Explore and learn about our programs. Search Conestoga Tours for campus tours, virtual tours and live online events. Conestoga, career focused education your way. Connect life and learning. Our 2 Overdrive continues powered by Fanduo bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. Brian Haseo, Doug Jeff O'Neill, Jamie Noodles, McClennan, Leaps in action tonight darren drager coming up here in a moment some news today tampa has made a deal niani gourd and all of her bjork strand are on their way to tampa in exchange for two first round picks and a second

round are going to seattle and jack use is done for the year he said shoulder surgery here the g m of of CIA or Jersey hazy What's the approach are you gonna say to your team? No best player? No dice for me, or how do you proceed? Honestly, I I don't think I'm a buyer anymore. I I don't know if I'm a seller But I think Peter Forsberg went down and Joe Sackett won Raymond Borgas Stanley Cup This is not the Colorado Avalanche of 2001 I don't think Jersey even with Jack Hughes was winning a Stanley Cup quite frankly

I didn't look at them as a serious cup contending team I don't think they are most two guys are really good players man But they're both 511 and they're both not that big and I don't know if they could ever wheel through the whole thing Yes, my honest opinion really good players really good players if they can ever wheel through the whole thing. That's my honest opinion. Really good players, really good players. If you can make your team better, you always do it regardless of the situation. Long term, you're saying. Long term, I'm saying, yeah, regardless, right?

We talked about it yesterday. If the Montreal Canadiens, even if you don't believe that they should be buyers, if somebody's available that you covet, you do it. If you can grab somebody right now, because now you have Jack Hughes' cap space, and you can bleed that into next year when the cap goes up and you can start moving some players, I think you do it.

I don't think you do it to go, hey, we're chasing the cup and we're just gonna replace this player with that player. That's not the, I don't think that's a thought process. You do. But if you can grab somebody that has a high cap hit and give yourself a chance this year, but it's more about the future, I would do it. That's possible. And we were talking about yesterday,

like using Dylan Cousins as an example in Buffalo, or whatever, sure. But the thing is Hughes is not returning for game one. This is not the puttness cap hit on Long-Term Meyer. He's done for the year. He is not returning for game one. This is not the you know, the put this cap hit on long-term Myer he's done for the years that shoulder surgery, right? But the cap goes up. Yes No, no, I understand but I'm just saying okay you bring in someone I don't know I I don't I don't know what that would look like and we'll see what New Jersey does and they're in a tough spot because

It's not fair to every other guy on the team to just say we're done You know that like Marks been injured and now Hughes is done and they're still, they've got their head above water, but they're starting to leak some oil recently. Jersey, like they're, they've, they've lost a lot of games lately and I just look at their, I look at the East, I got Florida, Tampa. You hate Jersey. I'm not the biggest fan of Jersey. There's something about it, man.

I don't know if it was that one draft we had to go to there But when they come up you point you car goes in the wrong direction and you're like I'm gonna give it to Jersey Yeah, let me ask you this right now. They're third in the metro Them had to head against Carolina today, Carolina Yeah, I mean I just take Jersey I just don't trust I don't know what is them head to head against carolina today carolina yeah i mean i i just think jersey i just don't trust i don't know what is i don't love carolina and i think carolina is a really good team

but i do you i'll take mark strom over who's playing that for them could chat coffers at freddie probably yeah so check out i would think they saw it mean they're there's a question Okay. Well, where would let's let's do a on-the-fly power rankings in the East Like in terms of I think they can win a Stanley Cup how many teams do you legitimately think?

Can win the Stanley Cup in the East five you have five Right off the top of my head. Okay. Can I guess who they are? Yeah, you guess Toronto Florida Tampa, Washington, Carolina. Yes Yeah, I mean it's hard to argue. It's hard to argue that and that's not it You know and and then and there's a couple in there I mean Toronto included Washington a lot of what if that's fourth and fifth for me like I have the Florida teams I think they deserve to be at the top. Caroline, I don't know if they can win a cup because what you said, like if I don't know that goaltending, do they have enough firepower? If Rantinen gets going, then I think they would. But if they go into the playoffs with that goaltending as is,

it's a disservice to the players that have been playing there. Who else are you going to get? I don't know. GM's have proven in the past Colorado flipped both ago. They had two new goaltenders the next day of practice and they said we're not watching that anymore I know I understand and which was a bowl. There's been some we should actually you've got a list coming up at some point Are you done with I will be doing the list. Oh, yeah, the list is coming tomorrow How about a tiny the top five things that should happen on friday i i like a top five boldman there's been some bold moves this year like that colorado like

to new goaltenders train ranting those are colorado i'm going to bring his head if he does top five bold moves he wants i want to see he wants sydney crosby to colorado that's just not gonna happen like said is just it's he's not going to be traded okay move to more friday would make your head pop off your body like is it said to colorado i granted and moved again would have make my head bob what

would be bigger ranton and traded again or elias peterson traded peterson peterson i think it's because it's a canadian market and the whole story behind a miller so i think that person uh... him being moved is fascinating for me because that's vancouver saying we can't we can't move on either one of them

which would not surprise her about him i guess yesterday what did he do show up to the rink early and worked out and then stayed on the ice after and shot some pucks like it's been a calendar year and you finally decide that you might have to put a little bit extra into it. And Rick Tauke was like, yeah, the last 48 hours I've seen a big improvement. I'm like, yeah, I know. Like what a gong show. 11.6 million.

What's Tauke going to say? Like Tauke's going to go down. But just the the idea of that a year later he decides he's going to crack some iron and shoot some parks before practice like well i mean for the cameras what was that kyle larry was doing car that was after the game he went out the a you see you see the hero some time i'm like it you just i'm sure he's probably done that before i hope so i don't i hope this is in the bar why would it be brought to by what it is everyone was

like holy this guy he showed up early that the where everyone with it with these must not happen before because he'd they were shocked that should be breaking news and i have a right it should be they should have to interrupt newscast box added on his interview is like the last forty eight hours and he can keep that going maybe he's got something like this is a bizarre world uh... here's darren dreger tsn hockey insider joining us in the maple torta hotline

what would make your head spin more dregs nico randinian being traded again or alias peterson being traded by friday uh... live pool peterson Or Elias Pettersson being traded by Friday? Life Yeah, Patterson. Yeah. Yeah only because they're just they're in a different place. I know more information on me How ratman and yeah, what's going on there with ranting and I saw your tweet reference that we just talked about it, but yeah So I don't know how many teams are on it I believe that ratman submitted a list and

management and ownership of the Carolina Hurricanes this week. As I tweeted, have been camas NHL clubs just gauging their level of interest. Now that doesn't guarantee that he's getting traded for a second time, but it certainly sounds like the good Carolina Hurricanes are nervous about him walking out the door, you know know them perhaps not going as deep into the playoffs and making it worse and then they get nothing in return so you know no guarantee of trade but it it seems like there's a more aggressive approach to trade specific to mico rand and now with carolina then so god i think we still have you. Do you have a Stregs? Yeah I got you. So when

you asked, when you said like they asked Ranton it for a list, what does that mean? That he'd be willing to sign with in the future or that he'd be like does he have trade protection? No, he's got a 10 team. The 10 team? Okay so okay so that's what it's about then. Yeah okay. So I mean we're still ironing out the wrinkles with this one. It's an interesting one. And I mean, there's been a whirlwind of speculation around guys specific to the reality that appears to be unfolding. But again, hey, you know, Tom Dunn and Eric Tulski could, could gauge that level of interest

and just say, well, shockingly, it's not as high as it should be. And maybe it won't be. Like there's no guarantee if Mika Ratan and his agent Andy Scott are telling teams that have interest that we're you know we're not signing. We're going to July 1st you know teams may just say okay we'll forget it because we're not giving Carolina roster players off our playoff team. Like they did. Like they did.

Yeah like they did without without that level of certainty So I'm I'm cautious with this one So literally we're gonna do play by play of how this whole scenario unfolds think about that conversation to Tulski Actually, we're not gonna be so stupid as to give you a roster player and then not sign Not sign them. And he'd be like, well, that's what I just did. Yeah, well, I mean, oh, you played in China and not go back to those days, but I think they were counting, obviously they were counting on Miko coming in and playing with his buddy

Ajo, you know, being a good fit with Rod Brynner Moore in a way that Brynner Moore likes to play and all that. I honestly, I think this tracks back to Ratman more or less getting blindsided in the trade initially. And I think of Lady's been a better player for them, but yeah, I still, I think I said this last week or the week before, I've yet to find a hockey person that can make sense of that trade other than Carolina got the best player in the deal but makes sense that that they didn't some level of certainty which is you know borderline Unbelievable given on Marty Natures is playing in Colorado

So Drex before we get into more trade talk We had a spirited debate on the show yesterday about a 2008 clip and your salad. Do you want to verify and maybe go through? I mean, there was no fresh dip. That was just your hair, correct? Oh, his phone. He hung up on me. What a convenient phone drop.

Just as you ask him that question. I think he hung up. I think he hung up. Get some clarification there, Doogie, on the hair and the hangup I think he hung up. I think he hung up. There's, get some clarification there, Doogie, on the hair and the hangup. Because he hung up on me. He might have said, I'm not answering that. Yeah, I think there was.

17 years later, I refuse to answer that. You may have run off Darren Drager from our show. No, I didn't run him off. Listen, the guy, he looked young and spry. He did. It was a very dark haircut. Shit. It was not a jimmy benning

that wasn't far off jimmy he went to the hairdresser back in that day in two thousand eight and said jimmy benning plus jimmy benning on vacation on his wedding day yeah i want jim benning on his wedding day regulars just need to say the code word benning plus. All right, Drex, go ahead, clarify the hair back in a way.

Yeah, hold on though. What, like, I don't recall the pictures of the colour of my hair, how dark it was. Dude, it was jet black Drex. It was jet black. Were you doing any monkey business with that hair? Well, no, I was not. And I think it was maybe sitting beside Bobby McKenzie the years following that kind of tarnished me. But it's one of the reasons I make fun of James all the time.

His hair colour really hasn't changed since way back then. And look at me, I look like I'm a thousand years old, but maybe it speaks to the level of crust. Hey, back in those days though, I was really trying to pull off the John Ferguson Jr. look and I thought I did a pretty good job. I agree. I can confirm that. I will not say confirm or deny. I can confirm it. So with Darren Drager and TSN Hockey Insider, the New Jersey Devils have confirmed that Jack Hughes is done for the year with the shoulder surgery.

What does this mean for them over the next two days and the rest of the season? That's a nasty, just flat-out nasty, right? And Tuggy Hamilton is going to be out potentially week to week. So the news is slightly better there because you know, as you say, I mean, training camp next year I I guess most managers would say okay uncle that's enough let's just lock it down and and I don't think that's gonna be the case with Tom Fitzgerald and New Jersey Devil

it's gone all right Drex yeah the phone is really acting up here. Disappointing, because there's so much to get into. Well, we need him. Like, we actually need some of the information that he's able to provide. Yeah. Maybe we can go to the doogie desk. It's my fault. I brought up the hair, and he hung up.

I think that's what happened. I think, you know... He went into some little closet in his house, so he wouldn't have wouldn't have reception and i don't know if you want anybody in the house you know hearing and talk about talking about a salad that's what it is he's down in the cellar somewhere and yeah will see if we get a back i don't know at home on your cell i've actually had to have a cell phone booster brought into the house

because there's pockets of dead but it's weird you get around a certain firewall I'm walking like you're walking into your office and all of a sudden it cuts out or something like that so I actually any Any call I get now I run to my basement and I stand right next to the cell phone booster Because I know that I've at least got something. It's awful. We need a cell phone booster for dregs I don't know where he is. We'll see but he's done. Yeah, it might be the end We'll see but yeah with Jack Hughes done for the year again the Eastern Conference like we've been talking about it since four o'clock with

The Leafs and what they're gonna do. That's what I want to ask dregs like how do the Leafs? React to this are they going to react whatsoever do they have things kind of ironed out and they're gonna make moves Regardless of what Tampa does but it's two ways two ways saying'm not going to react to other teams in the division that are rivals because sometimes you can do foolish things or it's like, okay, we're going to pull the king daddy topper here and we're not just going to make a trend. We're going to shock the world. I don't know what that deal would look like. I don't think it's deal would look like, but. I don't think it's gonna be all world deals. No, well guys we talked about the major issue, the bodies around, like there's a lot of.

They gotta move pieces out, they're up against the cap and they don't have a ton of assets. Right. You know, that's another thing with Toronto right now. So here's the thing, like we can talk about these teams that are struggling or whatever, we're gonna, we're study Edmonton, like I look at the teams when they're playing to their best of their capabilities, not to the

worst because you're going to be emotional about it. If you look at what the Leafs have done and when they're playing at their best, the awesome Matthews and guys like that, then it's just nip and tuck. It's not adding significant pieces. That's where I think the Leafs are know you're gonna go i would disagree with you but i think you said about florida and tampa and hasn't stopped them from making a move uh... dregs is back with us dregs can you give us some sort of insight on what

the lease you're doing here and how they may react to the moves that tampa made today and what uh... florida's been doing the last few days yeah and i'll get back and return in second. I'm just trying to envision a slow burn that you have going on right now. Oh, I'm trying, man. I'm trying here. I'm being very professional. Very professional with cell phone issues.

Yeah, well, look, I'll tell you, Toronto's position really hasn't changed. And yeah, Florida goes out and does what they did in acquiring Seth Jones and you know they might add a bit more. I don't know that will be significant. And then you know Julian Breezebon Tampa Bay man, he just finds a way to get stuff done. He does and that's a real nice move, couple of moves, all bringing in players for the

Tampa Bay Lightning. But Toronto's focus remains at centre ice and bringing in a defenseman and and I guess they're they have to be willing to pivot you know if the centerman isn't there that you'll want and we're talking still guys even though it's a long shot at best Braden Shinn, Rock Nelson right Scotty Lawton is is a number three that's what he is. Now, you know, not saying they have no interest in Scott Lawton, I'm just saying that until the other two have been exhausted, you know that those deals can't be made. I think Brad Trillin is going to stay focused

on that. I had a team tell me earlier today that Doug Armstrong is still listening on Braden Shinn, and the reason he's still listening is because he's positioning for somebody to step up and make a crazy offer, right? So let's have that conversation. What would we define as crazy? It's not going to be a main roster player, at least not for the Toronto Maple Leafs, but maybe it is somewhere else. Maybe it's a couple of roster players.

I think LA, maybe some other clubs. So beyond that, what does that look like? And would Toronto have the stomach to not deal off one or two, but maybe all three of the prospects that have been rumored, like Cowan, Minton, and Benny Danforth? I mean, so it feels like that's what it's going to take to get the interest of Armstrong and even then there's no guarantee that he does that and then you look at Brock Nelson if he's plan B and nobody seems to know what Lou is doing because Lou isn't telling anybody what he intends on doing with these players so that's where Toronto's at so if if Santa Rice kind of falls apart in front of Brad Trillivant

maybe shifts whatever the assets that he was willing to use and tries to acquire a better defenseman. Darren, we talked about the body issue, the number of them with the Maple Leafs. How does an organization go about addressing this? Like just in terms of the roster spots, the salary cap and all that. Yeah, like how do you make people disappear? Well, I noticed Patrick already wasn't on the ice again in Vegas. Does that mean it's almost close to game over for him, Draggs?

Yeah, I don't know that, but whatever his issue is, it was explained to me that it just keeps flaring up. So it's definitely something that I've I've got on my radar but you know here's a guy that has worked pretty hard to get back and is very effective when he's healthy but he just he can't stay healthy so we'll keep an eye on that but oh that's that's part of why this whole Toronto trade scenario whatever it is is challenging one it's not just about you know the pieces that have to go out.

If you're not moving or Oscar players, then you're not making room. You know, Braden's 10, six and a half moving forward. He, you know, isn't gonna walk in a park. You gotta make room for that. Not just this year, but the remainder of his contract. So, bodies are coming in, guys have to go. It's that simple.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's, you know, we're waiting to see if guys go on waivers or whatever and yeah other teams are doing that consistently and you still have a couple of days to figure that out but yeah yeah it's gonna be interesting to see where else this goes man. Well we did have a Jerry's that we at least have a seven out of ten trade that happened today before today at four o'clock and you that was a seven. I think so Yanni Gordon Oliver Bjorkstrand I mean they gave up two firsts and a second and there's some protection on the first round picks but like that's a pretty

hefty price but to your point Dregg's like GM down there when he wants somebody he goes out and gets them yeah and and that's where it's not pressure on the general manager it's pressure on the opportunity. And you know, we've been singing this song for a while now around the Toronto Maple Leafs, right? If you're not embracing, and management is, they're 100% willing to go all in to try and help this team contend for a Stanley Cup,

but the pieces have to be available and you've got to find a way to make it set. Hmm, all right, all right. I'm gonna share some information that might make your head blow right off his body here. He's outside that door. Who is? Drager. He's here. Draggs is here? You're in the building? Yeah. What is happening around here? The first time the phone went haywire I was maybe 50 feet Yeah, doogie this guy behind the glass is hiding now, what do we yeah, how do we get you in here? It's too late now. I warned him all I said to Josh and like bud

The last time the phone crapped out. I said you're gonna you're gonna hear about This is amateur hour 101 like I thought we were bugging him that he's in his basement I thought you're at home exactly I just figured you're away from us guys right around the corner do you better put on a sparring cap and some boxing gloves there'll be a conversation is that the guys name a man conversation yeah and some boxing gloves. There'll be a conversation in the break. Dugi and I. Oleg Blokin, is that the guy's name? A man conversa- Oleg Blokin?

Yeah, the old Brazilian Ozzy. Oh, he was Ukrainian. Yeah, he was Ukrainian. He was the Oleg Blokin. He was the Ukrainian soccer coach. You want to have a man conversation. I'm going to go outside for a man conversation. Yeah, Dugi and I will be having a man conversation about that.

Well, what do we got? I guess we got Hitsider Trading. Are you basically updating that every hour between now and 3 p.m. On Friday or what? Yeah, you kind of have to right? Well tonight, especially I mean We're we're on the air till what two o'clock in the morning with the least regional game You'll get the extended version of insider trading and the pregame and all I on through the dot the often my gray hair in the second intermission well they go beautiful alright well uh... i guess we'll see in thirty seconds and i'm not a high even i am peter i hate rose on the panel tonight here tonight

always calling his shot he's gonna fall asleep on the panel tonight but i got a lot of time and i have nothing the number i get you better be proud you're right i thank you drugs a guy saying a trigger tsn hockey insider from twenty feet from here but i'm sure the maple to the hotline

twenty feet from here not live not live his phone keeps dropping up we've dropped them three times the guy could have been in here. I don't like it. What would have made Hayes head pop off is if Draggs had have made contact with Hayes through that glass through Al's brother's old office and been like, can't hear you. It's not working. If he gave you that one. Dathi was standing back there though.

Dathi was standing back there and then I look at my phone and Draggs is like I'm in the hallway. This is so amateur that we wouldn't do that. This has happened before with guys that they were on the other side or they're walking over there. Studio 6. Yeah like I remember I think Ray had one of those and Ray's phone was going out I'm like where are you I thought he was in Vancouver. Yeah I'm walking over to the studio. Like well why didn't you come in? Yeah. I didn't feel like it. No, he said something about his driver.

He's like, wow, the driver of this. And I was like, you just didn't want to go in there. Didn't want to do it. Or at the time, like, the grappler didn't ask him or something. Yeah. Unbelievable. I've had a tough day. You see, Scotty Scheffler just absolutely put 10 handicaps in a body bag today.

Yeah. He came out and he goes, my buddy's not that good at golf, he's a 10 handicap. You know how crushing that is to hear that. We have, we gotta play it. This is, I love these kind of stories because it's so exclusively golf that the best player in the world can go and play with a chop at his home course

and lose because of strokes and because of the handicap system. Here's Scottie Scheffler earlier today. You know I still love cutting up with my buddies on the weekends and playing money games and gambling and I played last weekend and one of my buddies who is not a very good golfer he's like a ten handicap you know he beat me in our side bet for the day and you know. I was talking with Phil and that's kind of one of the great things about golf is I can go out with a guy who's going to shoot 90 and I can give him enough strokes to where we'll have a good

competition and that's what I think is so fun about the game of golf. I don't think that my position has ever changed on that. It's always just been really fun. Did you handle losing very well? Yeah, I mean he hold a bunker shot on 18 to win so it was kind of, I got out of the way because I thought he could potentially shank it and he ended up holding it so it was kind of one of those, you know, it was pretty fun. I didn't like losing and I handed him the money and I was like thanks man, now I got to go play golf from it next week so I appreciate the confidence boost. Just lost it with a 10 handicap, you know. I can't tell you. Scotty Schaeffler thanks and i gotta go play golf for me last next week so i appreciate the because this is also ten handicap now uh...

i can't tell you scottie shepard's a plus seed have to be a plus seven that i would be getting seventeen below the other guys get and it still came down eighteen you'd be here to get a good news of the par for five net four something like that but he was literally a chop that well but here's the thing i'd tell you how to say pretty good Well, but here's the thing, like a 10 handicap is a pretty good player. Yeah, like that's like I'm about a 10. I was just gonna say,

so that's you playing him. Yeah. You're getting 17 strokes. Yeah, well he's the number one player in the world, but the point is, like he says it in such a disgusted manner, he's like, wow, this guy sucks, he's a 10. Like I thought he'd shank it on 18. I'm like, and that guy probably thinks I'm a pretty it on 18 I'm like and that guy probably thinks I'm a pretty good player I'm out here playing with Scotty and meanwhile Scott he's watching him and it's his friend he's like this guy sucks like he's awful at golf and at the same rate if you if I put myself in the opposite shoot where I play with a 30 I'm like this guy sucks yeah so it's

like I would be arrogant in a situation like that if I was giving 17 strokes I gotta be honest I watched but it hurts man tiger thing the other night like that was pg l tigers are playing golf professionally anytime soon was highly it could be done they asked him after and he's like i don't think about golf anymore it's a while now he's gonna play man i really don't understand the premise is like playing in a giant video game

and then you've got the whole there like yeah but it's just like hey team Atlanta Versus like it was it is weird and he's asking his kid for chicken fingers I think he's played a couple rounds and recently where he's like I Cannot take this to it to a PGA tour I can't do it. I agree because I think he also hears that from Scottieaafle and he's like these guys are gonna look at me and say what are you doing? Why are you doing that? And yeah, but it like I love that Scottie's a degenerate gambler like cash games with ten handicaps on the weekend.

That's a little Phil Mickelson. That's I think he referenced Phil. I'm assuming he was talking Mickelson there. Oh there's a guy I'm sure everyone's got a guy at their country club date just are chopping out the bit to get a piece of there's a guy at weston i can't wait to absolutely dumb the best the best vanity down honestly sends me to picture screenshots of the salmon is driving yardages

i can't wait i i can picture being in the first the and asking for numbers what's your number and i can't wait for the gattas and the five okay sure i guess i'm getting strokes and let's go play it sounds great gameplay birdie game or something we're doing here there are a anyway all both i guys so tight tonight actually like I recommend watching tonight, try to stay up and I'm gonna, I'm gonna bail

on some top. I'm just, I can't do it. I can't. Who's on the panel? It's you, Cheryl and... Dreggs. Dreggs? Duffy.

But I can't, I can't do this job late at night, so watch out. You're Marty Seinfeld. Was it a red bow tie that he was wearing? I'm pretty sure it wasn't. That rings a bell. We gotta have a a picture that we don't have the video of it i don't know if i could we noticed it but i don't know if other people really are they did not have a really ask is we were we only pay attention to stupid stuff yeah has extra innings they were at the park and he was at the end

of the pad i was exhausted he was so tired the people's that'll be out tonight on the panel i Yeah, he was exhausted. He was so tired. Pete Rose. That'll be out tonight on the panel. I actually, I'm really looking forward to this now. Like I can't wait to see what comes up. Oh, of course. I'll be there too. Yeah, happening. 100%. All right. Have a good one tonight. We'll catch you tomorrow at 4pm. There he is. The O-Dog Jeff O'Neil. Struddy coming up. Jason Strudwick at about a half an hour Brad Faxon coming up to facts will come up in an hour we can't wait for that overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on the TSN app. Alright overdrive continues powered by Fandool

bringing you everything from the opening line of the final score Brian Hayes Jamie Noodle's McLennan we got Strudy coming up weird mojo out there in Edmonton right now weird weird mojo playing terrible yeah like defensively Pickard was in last night it got ugly they had to put Skinner in he wasn't much better and at first ten minutes they were out shooting them 7-1 and McDavid was flying but the one shot they gave up was a breakaway. And then just out to lunch. It was brain dead plays. Like brain dead.

And they haven't played well since the break. For a month or so, yeah. It's been a while. They struggled on the road coming out of the break. They beat Carolina. Then this is their first game back home. And they got beat up pretty badly last night. I think they're not nurses injured like I don't think that they're

healthy but not playing well either they just they just look off like I said this well I said this is ready today I was chatting with him but I talked to Rishag too there's not one guy on that team that's playing to their capability other than 29 and 29 was red-rotten last night well that's the thing like you know the hard trophy he's in the driver's seat right now but if your team has a tough stretch run they might take you out of it you know what I mean like it's one of those scenarios where I I think he deserved to win it right now I think you know McKinnon's in there and Kuturov and Hellebuck and yeah nobody running away there's nobody running away with it and and yet that

applies to dry settle to is that a great year yeah but your point defensively really struggled last night i was really poor plays not interested look like they were like nobody was interested in playing last night which was weird like they were they were fine for 10 minutes and then they just were like now that's not's not, I have this saying, I was joking, I used to play, there was a guy named Jari Gronstrand in 1990. He was a Finnish or Swedish guy, I gotta look up if he's Finnish or Swedish,

kind of chubby guy, lazy. And Bush Goering was the coach, and he was a healthy scratch, and then the next day, we had an optional skate, and he took took the optional but he was a healthy scratch that's great and butch came in and was like yari you're gonna you're gonna skate and he was like not today butch so we always have this saying it's like you're gonna play today not today butch last night there was a bunch of not today butches like not the mood to play last night so well get their act again yeah they do i mean they they're you know you got Vegas who you're kind of

chasing in that division and they could still win the division and the Kings are struggling right now too. They're not playing well either. Here's the thing I was thinking about you were talking about seeding. You want to win the Pacific if Colorado's in that first seat. Because when I get a beat it feels like it's gonna be Minnesotanesota possibly and i would want minnesota Personally, yeah instead of la. Yes, I think so. I mean la la to me at home. They've been pretty good Um and now listen i'm not suggesting they're doing this on purpose. They're playing awful But if if if we're looking at it because we're talking about the Leafs winning the Atlantic

What would be a favorable matchup? What would be if Edmonton's pathway? I think Colorado's gonna scare the hell out. I would rather play LA than Colorado, correct I would agree and they have owned LA in the past like Edmonton has owned them in the playoffs But that's the thing you maybe until they don't like that's you got it You play you got a plate to the best of your capability but if you look at the pathway for a lot of these teams that we're talking about careful what you wish for yeah we joked about it last year because or was it two years ago we want Florida and work out careful what you wish for you got to play better period. Yeah, but the pathway that that

central division That might look like Dallas and Colorado like that. That's I think that that's very likely I mean Colorado's two points back in Minnesota and you know Minnesota has been they've dealt with injuries and they've been kind of plugging along five and five in the last time Yeah, I think it ends up Dallas Colorado in the first round and then if you play in Minnesota I would prefer to play them over playing l a but uh... that could be the benefit

of it in the end it absolutely could be but uh... will see where strutty stands on that and i've got a couple of things like pick your poison type scenario you choose which side you would ball in the ledger on news okay and i got a couple that will answer and then I want to get them to study as well. Who's having a worse season based on their standards? Like Barr. Based on what you expect out of them. Connor McDavid or Auston Matthews? We have the stats side

by side. Can Joe put him up or something? Like what is Austin? I'm kind of jamming Joe up. No but Austin's got what 20 goals yeah he's on pace for 33 on the season which would obviously be a career low so and Boston has 22 goals 52 points in 46 game games play what does McDavid have McDavid's up to I believe 77 points and he's missed you know more games or he hasn't missed as many games but he's missed some with the suspension and the injuries yeah so he yeah McDavid's got 77 points well the only reason I would say it's Austin but Austin's been hurt mm-hmm he claims he's all right now but like Austin Matthew scored 69 last

year and he's at on pace for 34 yeah McDavid points wise is a nice off pace yeah like past an ex cotta Mitch is a point behind like when you think like the automatic it's a great actually two automatics they're back on McDavid wins the Art Ross and Matthews wins the rocket like that's just been kind of automatic it was last year it's been in years past really like if those guys are healthy and they're playing the way they're playing you know McDavid may not hit a hundred points which is kind of staggering that's why I would lean I'd lean McDavid because his bar is even

higher than Matthew's if that makes sense yeah no you're right and and it's probably McDavid so he's got 72 points and what 20s got 77 points on a McDavid but he'll get 20 you'd like to give guy twenty three point thank you will not be tell reset like a week ago he was on pace for ninety seven points i'd i'd i would guess he ends up a hundred three hundred four points and i think i think i will have a lot of money but healthy or involved i mean

they don't look right either of them like they really they really don't the crazy thing was McDavid Looked like McDavid last night. The rest of his team was out to lunch. Hmm, but he hasn't looked like McDavid He's admitted that himself, but but here's the thing and we should actually do just for fun And this is a bigger exercise Who in that four nations has come back and been world-beaters I mean Bennington won his first game out and Hagel scored a goal scored like but top-tier players yeah who's been who's like they all look uninterested and tired

a good question yeah well it's such it's so deflating to go back to the regular season and talked about it as fans going oh yeah it's like McDavid won on a Thursday night he's playing at one o'clock on a Saturday. Yeah and then on the Sunday playing at one o'clock or three o'clock. They played three games in four nights. Three different cities in the East. Coming out of that in hindsight you probably should have shut him down instead. Take the weekend off. Take the weekend off go and catch up with your family do whatever Sleep off a hangover. I hope he had one me too if you win like that on the Thursday night in the end

That this is this is really the February March doldrums for a lot of these top-tier players Like better now they got a snap out of it. Maybe after the trade deadline where it's like, okay, this is our team This is the stretch, get going here. But these top players, and Marner's gotten some points, he had a great one for Boston. Yeah, Marner's looked okay. Yeah, he's looked pretty good. But you're right, I mean, you'd have to go down the list of guys on both sides. JT Miller, I guess Miller's looked pretty good coming out.

But the injuries that have cost us. Hughes has been hurt, Kachuk's only played a game. Brady, Matthew hasn't played. Like in McEvoy, like you go down the list they're like guys these guys paid a price and now they come back to the club team and it's like okay this big letdown that might seep through the the team as well but it's a great I think that's a coin toss. I do too. Both of them are expected to be better than they have been. Yeah, and and and rightfully so. They've, you know, we they've set the bar, not us. Exactly. These are the, McDavid's the clear-cut best player in the world and Matthews is

top five and the best goal scorer and and that's the thing like of Austin ends up with 33 goals. Yes he's been banged up, he's missed some time, but that is a staggering stat for him. Like that, for him, like this guy as a rookie hit 40 or 41 and he's never looked back. There's probably a Jerry's there for you that could he get to like, could he get to 40? Of course he could. Like he could score 25 goals in the last 20 games.

And it wouldn't, like based on his standard last year He may have done that over a 20 game span, but it doesn't feel like that's gonna happen with him Alright more faith in the playoffs Stewart Skinner or Anthony stole arts Who will you think a lot you'll have more faith in come playoff time The only thing I would say skinner because i've seen it with stole ours he's played one relief performance one playoff performance and it was i believe in relief it was the of bob they lost a two-day binton or whatever that that was

game whatever that was yet but i mean there's not a lot of faith right now that's why i'd say stole arts just even It's just even though I don't know what it's going to look like, come play after like Skinner is in a bad place right now, he's not playing well. I mean, we've at least seen him in a game seven. We've at least seen him play well in a playoff game. I have no idea what Stolar's can bring. I hope I think I know and I like the player and I think.

But I just it's kind of like the hell about comparison, like, I know and I like the player and I think, but I just, it's kind of like the Hellebott comparison, like you know what you know because you've seen it. So I'm still going with Skinner because he's lumped into guys that have to play a lot better on that team in Edmonton. Yeah. So.

Yeah, I think like Skinner, Picker, the goalies, you know the market well, I mean it's loud out there right now, they're not happy with the way things are going to twenty games out they're not playing well they're not defending well not enough to first has been heard at home has been playing great he's been bagged up and you know clingberg they're playing on but i don't know what what do you expect that a john clingberg i honest to god i said this nobody yesterday

the ebbington oilers were on this heater and they put in cllingberg the night against Toronto and he goes offside, cost them a point. That's right. That's right. Yeah, it was a regulate. That was going to tie the game. Cost them a point that night and then ever since, they've kind of, the air is kind of

like... It just doesn't look right. The Klingberg curse. Now, that's a really lazy analogy from the title and i think i have has sucked the error out of it but it just like there's nights where he looks like a contest winner which he's got to play a

lot better the hands are there the feet are and that's the the the thing i understand what evansons doing playing him and giving him an opportunity to get up to speed but at what cost and He hasn't been there. He's not the reason why they're losing these games but he hasn't dug them out either. He's not helping. No, exactly. Okay, I got a few more we'll sprinkle in here. Wish Struddy. Yeah, I got some good ones here. I got

some good ones. Non-Edmonton non- Yeah, I do. I got one. Throw one at me? Well, think about this and we'll come back and we can answer it. Who would you take right now with their contract in mind? Elias Pettersson or Jonathan Hubertow? Ooh. Okay, think about that. And I got a couple of other ones.

That one is sneaky. It's a sneaky one because again, the contract, like Hubertow's actually knocked off a couple of years on that deal. I know who. Okay, you'll answer that,'ll answer it will get to it strutty coming up brad fax and with the arnie palmer starting up in the players next week what does he see a tiger woods future style you're going to play at all this year will catch up with facts and forty five overdrive continues tsn ten fifty and on tsn four alright jason strudwick

in fifteen brad fax and coming up our best bet still to come Elias Pettersson and Jonathan Hubert Oh with their current contracts Who are you taking? Okay, so I told you Hubert Oh in the break, but I'm now I've rethought it I think it's better to go on better just based on the upside in the age of the player. Yeah I still think you know Change is necessary potentially for Pettersson But if he regains his form, I think the ceiling's bigger. I agree I think it's worth that because unfortunately for Hubert oh, it's a couple years now

I think he's just this is what he's gonna be a kind of 25 goalscorer 50-point guy, right? Good player, but and I know Pettersen is completely fallen off a cliff but you have to believe or hope he gets back to it now the case for Hubert Oh is less term less money right and maybe you can guarantee 25 goals and 50 points with Pettersen who the hell knows what's going on that's true and but it's just a mess out there yeah okay what do you got I was thinking about this and this would be a poll For for us to put out there

So given that Yanny Gord has gone back to Tampa is they won with him the familiarity But they also brought back Ryan McDonough Right. So Breeze was a guy who has not been shy to move people out But then you know bring some guys back that he feels comfortable with. If you're the Toronto Maple Leafs at this deadline is there anybody that you would covet that's been a part of this leaf group in the last five six years they'd be go want that guy back. Ooh, I've got two. One.

One is Ryan O'Reilly. I know. I was just going to say it feels like O'Reilly and Shen. And the reason you say that is because they were there when they won that, what they won a series. The other, the other one was Nazim Qadri. Yes. Qadri would be at the top of my list.

If you could make, if you could put Naz in now it's more complicated because of the term and the money. Yes. But if you can sneak, if you had him as in, now it's more complicated because of the term and the money, but if you can sneak, if you had him as your third line center and you put a line together of Nas and Kadri and you know, Yarn Croak and Bobby McMahon or something, that to me is a really quality third line with some jam and they can move and they can perform. I would have I would have Nas at the top I'd have a Riley at number two and Luke Shen I don't know Shen concern. I love the story of Luke Shen. I love I love the way he played But that was two years ago. He's not a young guy two more years

Yeah, I mean I'm Shen wouldn't be but it is interesting like who else would they had on defense that sticks out? That's the time try I'm racking my brain You're right. Sheh, but goes your big beard. Yeah, that's it. Like I don't think that that Russian he's down in Dallas The Bushkin the Bushkin Elia the Bushkins in Dallas like but I'm just saying wishlist not you Well, the Bushkin they had twice right they brought him in but like it just you know heavier Yeah, type of like that's what I'm thinking Who would you bring back into the mix? Did you like that guy left because of money or they couldn't afford him or whatever? Yeah, not as I've said this before

I've always loved Nasim Kadri and you know it's Unfortunate the reason he went was partially because of the suspensions which he was maybe you know Rightfully so at the time to pay a price and because Tavares had signed right like that was a big part of it Is that they were they were committed to Austin and John and they looked at Nas and said he's not a third-line center He doesn't really fit right right that's fair. I mean was acting up in the playoffs Yeah, and that was I think was a combination of all of it And they you know they swung for the fences and they brought in it, you know Tyson Barry and it didn't work and but I

Mason Marshman wasn't fall in there because he wasn't he never played for that never really fit here never same thing with like Carter Verhege was technically in the Leaf lineup and yeah, you know, but it just I I'm sure there's somebody we're missing I know that's I will ask people to send it in. that's i will i'll will ask people to send it in yeah you know last misset it is not a bad polka i like that poor question thought out there just ask people to submit you know if you could go back over the last five years let's say and just pluck someone and plug them right back in who you taking the tap of made a pretty substantial deal today and their their gm is speaking on it yet a great quote in terms of you know how he looks at team building

and picks in the future we'll get to that more coming up in the next hour i'm uh... not ryan rishaw goes gonna say shaggers coming on but sure he's coming on extra big struttle join us and brad fax and coming up to overdrive continues yes and ten fifty and on the t s and out women run the charts the conversation and to make history.

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