OverDrive - OverDrive - March 6, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: March 6, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Insider Pierre LeBrun joins to discuss Mikko Rantanen's next steps, the Bruins becoming sellers and John Gibson's outlook in Anaheim. In the latest edition of Hayesy's List, Hayes lists the Canadian general managers facing the most pressure to make a deal by the NHL trade deadline in the league.

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Our TSM hockey insider. The insiders, nice to them to be a part Of the panel last night. They were there in the background doing their thing That was great to see the boys and everyone's jacked up for what's gonna happen between now and 3 p.m. Tomorrow And we'll see what Pierre can tell us on you know, Miko ranting in on the Boston Bruins the st. Louis Blues What are they gonna do the New York Islanders? What are they gonna do and where do York Islanders, what are they gonna do? And where do the Canadian teams fall in line here?

Saw a bunch of tweets, like there's been a lot of talk of the Leafs have kind of zoned in on Braden Shen, or whatever you wanna call it, inquired. And I don't read people's comments too often, but one comment that I saw that does make sense, it's like, how old is he? Is he 35 30 or 33 33 with three years left like but am I missing something I know he's a good player but he's got like that's your Tavares your Tavares replacement replacement yeah is he better than John

Tavares he's. He plays differently for sure He's got a different keep in mind John Tavares is has a very good season at some point The Stephen Stamkos could happen the other you know it like that's you you're what you're looking at is to get ahead of things Not behind it, but I think what you're asking though is how much are you supposed to pay for that? That's my thing. Like if people are like, why is the price so high?

They go as far as to say St. Louis should almost be like throwing in sweeteners. Oh no, that's ridiculous. Not sweeteners, but they're like, he is a good player, Jamie, but the idea of asking for a King's ransom in return when he's got three years left, I think that's a stretch as well. It depends on what you define as a King's ransom. A guy like somebody who's a junior star and done nothing at the NHL level yet, it projects to be good players.

You don't know. I mean, I'd go back to julian breeze was comment yesterday one bunch of great picks are you want good players on your team like you've been you acquire bradon shen your better put your better team tomorrow right that's the thing and and give you deal with things in the future cap going up i don't think he makes ten million here what is it a six and a half

which is not cheap i mean it again is's he's a good player Braden Shett. He's not he's not a superstar player He's not a guy that no, he's a different type of player. Yes different ingredient. It's not about taking it I'm not taking a shot at him. I like him as a player He'd be a good player like you'd be a good leaf It would be you know a lot of teams in the league would love to have them for sure but Eileen were where Ozat in terms of, I don't see the, the only explanation is that it's a seller's market right now. And to start that from the off.

Yanni Gordon Bjorkstrand I believe was two firsts. Two firsts and a second. Yeah. For, you know, and they gave up a younger player and I think a fifth round pick or whatever. Yeah. Esamand, but the thing is is York Strand. I believe has terms he does they've got the player moving forward that they like and You know you can afford it You said this yesterday Hayes and you're right like you don't have to and Julian Breesbaugh owes nobody any explanation

He just points to the rafters and goes, I'm all in here for this group and I'm keeping this train going until we have to become Pittsburgh or Chicago like they had to re- you know, it happens, right? But it's different when you're Toronto because you can't point to the rafters and go look at what we've done. You've got to be a little bit more mindful because you've gone in for the Folinos, you've gone in for guys like that at the deadline. I understand what you you're saying but I just I think people have to get off this mindset that the team is going to be exactly look exactly the same next year regardless of what happens because I think I think people that are so you got a lock in John Tavares I think that's crazy to think that I'm sorry I just that's so I feel at some point his game is gonna drop off and if if you're on a long term deal or a four year deal or something, that's what you're going to be stuck with. You've got to be proactive on that stuff. Don't even get me started.

I've told you guys for six months now, the abuse that I take in public, they better sign them to five times seven. That's Joe from the bridge. You wouldn't believe how many times, five times seven makes sense and i'm like after a while i've just like that's that's assaulting me well and those are it like their separate scenarios to bars and channel that and i i

guess the point is that some point you you do have to put a limit on what you're willing to pay no getting can't just say i love the guy so just you know fleece name and a man that i'll give it to you do that i mean you got a right yes there you can't do that. Right. That's fair. You can't get fleeced just because Doug Armstrong says that's what it's going to cost. What's the deal about the house?

It's worth whatever someone's willing to pay you. That's right. But that goes both ways. A lot of times there's smoke and mirrors out there, oh, it's going to cost a fortune to get this guy, then he gets traded. You're like, that was nothing. I got a second round pick. What happened there?

Well, the market wasn't as big as they thought it was. Or you pushed teams to go different places and you didn't have the same market left anymore because they went somewhere else. Here's Pierre Lebrun, our TSN hockey insider. Maybe you can clarify this, Pierre. Uh oh. Well, the price of Braden Shen.

Everyone's got a different viewpoint on what it should be. He's 33 years old, he's got three years left at six point five million yeah can you explain clarify what it would take to make the move in why st louis might feel obligated to ask for so much if they're asking for so much so you know i've been mentioning this all along that he's a great test case for the old eye of the beholder discussion. There are a lot of people that

view Braden Shen and his remaining contract as great value with the salary cap exploding like it is over the next three years. Any on the other side of that? There are. There are other people who view that and say well wait a minute you know we're taking a bit of risk here taking that on So maybe it shouldn't be as much as you guys are asking for that It is one of the most fascinating situations I think in the league when you talk about guys that are You know that teams are calling that players that teams are calling on

The Leafs obviously really like this player That's why they've made so many calls on this with st Louis and they're still engaged and they have been with st Louis in the last 24 hours to see if there's a fit You know the difficulty and this is why the Leafs were also still hanging in on the Islanders and Brock Nelson And I know that today my understanding is the Flyers and Leafs had another call on Scott Lawton. The Leafs have to keep spreading their their darts because the Blues don't have to trade Braden Shett. So you can't put all your eggs in one basket.

You don't want to be left there saying we spent all this time trying to get Braden Shett and then realize that the Blues are like, ah we'll talk to summer. Which could happen. So that's why I think it must be hard, you know, it's not fun for Leaf Vans to follow along and see all these names and the reality is that's what's going on is that Bradtree Living continuing those calls and getting a better sense of the price and the deadline approaching and what ultimately they're going to do. Well here's something for you guys just on the fly here.

All being considered if you pay the same price, I don't know what that would be We don't know what the cost of doing business Who would you rather have Ryan O'Reilly or Braden Shen? Because I think they both have turned on their deal, correct? Yeah, extra year Right. I feel has an extra year at more money. I believe to know so I think I think I would say Shen Even though I love Ryan O'Reilly as a player but for two reasons one is that Braden Shen has played for Craig Brubbe and so there's there's a history that's cheating though Pierre

We're just talking about the players Rather want to con smite on that team Well, yeah, they both played for him But but O'Reilly had a chance to sign in Toronto and didn't rain I don't know if that matters or not But and I also think frankly if that matters or not but and i also think frankly if ryan riley had his brothers you wouldn't get dealt he's very happy in his family in nashville and that's nothing i take

consideration so uh... yeah i think my pick would be shen because here's here you gotta explain something to me he just mentioned nashville why are they engaging in trades with the Pittsburgh Penguins do you have any explanation to what the hell that is going on? Yeah listen I was surprised by that deal as well you know two teams not

making the playoffs I think my sense is but my sense is so in all seriousness it's like the spider-man meme where the two spider-mans are like pointing at each other. Well yeah yeah. You stink. You stink too. It may make more sense at the end. I guess at the end of tomorrow is what I was going to say. Is that some trade set up other moves and I have a sense that that might be the case here, especially in Pittsburgh case.

I mean, you know, I think Khaldu is ready to keep Luke Shedden because he signed for another year after this year because he loves his game and his leadership. But I think the smarter move is if he gets what he wants, he should be flipping Luke Shen before tomorrow afternoon, I think. And I know that Pittsburgh's open to that. And honestly, I hope it happens for Luke Shen, who's such a great dude and then asked to be traded. You know, he signed in Nashville presumably

so that he could finish his career there and they bought a house there. I hope he does get flipped to a contender because if you're gonna get your life disrupted this way, hopefully you get a chance to win a cup. Finishing out the year in Pittsburgh, like geez. Not really ideal. No, terrible.

With Pierre Lebrun. All right, Miko Rantinen, what is happening here with this guy? We've got less than 22 hours to go before the deadline. If it's 3.01 and he's in Carolina, he will finish the year as a Carolina Hurricane. What do we see happening and what has been changing over the course of the day? By the way, I come all the way here in studio to see you guys and you're not even here as an aside. It's a long story, i you know i got you like feeling the love right now

so i'll see you tomorrow see you tomorrow she's well they're all day time so a lot is happening it's one of the most fascinating things that i've seen a long time in the n.h.l. to trade for arguably the best rental player in the last ten years in a shell and then contemplate flipping him six weeks later. Like my brain just wants to explode. They are talking to a handful of teams about asking them to put their best offer on the table. They want to know what the best offer is on the table from the likes of Dallas, Florida, Vegas. I know LA Kings had some interest but I don't know if they're still in. And then they're gonna take those offers and I'm sure there's a few more teams but those are teams we know

about. And then they're gonna take those offers as it was explained to me today and say does that package make sense for us or do we keep ranting and try to win a cup with him as a rental and if he walks July 1st, he walks July 1st. I think keeping him as a rental right now, Pierre, is complete insanity because mentally he does not want to be there. Sorry. If he just tells you he doesn't really want to sign there, that means I got traded here, I didn't want it, and I don't want to play here.

That's why I would trade his ass. Sorry, that's how you gotta do business, man. So I guess I'll tell you why I disagree, O, and I understand the point you're making, and you lived it, but I think that once tomorrow's gone, whether he's dealt or not, I think Mikko Renton will have a relief in his life. He'll be able to finish the year no matter where he is and just play hockey again. And I think if he's not

dealt and he's a rental for Carolina, I bet you he turns it on because he now he understands that the rest of his career is in his hands. He can decide where he's going July 1st, he can win a cup before that in Carolina, those are all positive things. You know, he got pushed into a corner here in the sense that carolina wanted to know what his answer was to their contract offer by the trade deadline tomorrow three but he gave their answer they turned out this morning well he what he told them

i believe the specific answer was we're not in a position right now to give you an answer on it by three p m friday that that's what his camp communicated to the hurt that's basically no i'm just saying yeah i'm good so now the balls in carolina's court and but so that you and so i guess it's hard to answer in the back in a vacuum what i would do

because i don't know exactly what those offers are going to look like from a dallas or florida or a Florida or Vegas or whatever If they can turn around and get something close to what they gave up to Colorado and Martin niches and Jack jury then then I've been wrong all along because I think it's Literally ridiculous to be flipping this guy six weeks after you traded a lot for him But if they get something that makes sense tomorrow and maybe one of these teams puts a package in there that may surprise us because they have a

feeling that they may end up having a decent chance of signing him at some point before July 1st. Maybe the sign and trade out of the rule though well like is that just not possible sign signs with Carolina today and then they flip them to the team tomorrow like is that possible or no so what I was told today is that the hurricanes have not given permission the team is to speak to him about that okay but but yeah you know that doesn't change the fact that teams that are willing to step up in a meaningful trade offer probably have to have a sense of whether they have a chance to sign at some some point. And I guess what I'm, I'll give you an example.

What a great idea. Well, I mean, Noah, yeah, Noah Hanifin wasn't assigned in trade last year at the deadline, but he signed an extension, what, two weeks later with Vegas, I think, after the trade from Calgary or something like that. So I could see that kind of scenario where it's not assigned in trade, but we have at least a sense of we got a chance to maybe extend this guy's and i don't know if it's florida vegas again go ahead noodles was just gonna say that i think this is uh... while i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i something and they got Riley Smith back and it looks like, you know, Penny's on the dollar, they're familiar with him. Feels like every big deal right now that I'm sure that you're swirling around and you have

to keep things behind the curtain, Florida's name or Vegas' name is attached to it. I mean, they've got some cap room and I don't know if Vegas does it. Ketrux on LTIR, so Florida's got Caproom and the Shea Theatre is out for Vegas. But if you ask me to rank the plausible scenarios, and again, this is just really me with... I have some information, I don't have the whole picture. So this is me, you know, for what it's worth. My number one option is Dallas, Burant i think and number two is east a split carolina before i get the vegas in florida i could be completely wrong but obviously they're all options but i'm just ranking them for you

uh... policy doubts a really good team and you know no state tax all that kind of stuff they got some money to play with down there uh... with your brother t s and hockey insider. Saw Chris Johnston tweeting out that I guess teams calling on Brad Marchand are not being told no as of now. Boston's an intriguing one. They're kind of the St. Louis of the East for me. They've been in the playoffs. They're not really in it. Are they in it? Whatever. Take us through their plans with Marchand, Cil, is Brandon Carlo available?

What do you see happening there in Boston? The Bruins, as another team said to me yesterday, the Bruins have had a lot of different things going on in their war room. They are probably among the most active teams in terms of making calls and taking calls. They got a lot of juggling they're doing right now. And I think what has happened there is they went into this deadline a week ago thinking they'd be buyers and sellers I think it's gonna be more about selling now after the last few games you know we could go Brad Marchand publicly to the Boston media said he'd rather not get dealt and he's got a modified no trade but I've heard the exact same thing as

Chris in terms of I think in the last 24 hours the Bruins have made a point of sussing out the trade market potentially for Brad Marshawn just so they know while at the same time I think continuing to have dialogue with his camp about what an extension could look like at the 11th hour. So it's coming to a head I guess is what I'm saying. Both those scenarios are in play. And it seems crazy to even think that the Cats and the Boston Bruins could be dealt, but it is a possibility.

Why not? Yeah, they're not going anywhere right now. And I guess he could re-sign with them in the summer if he wants to. Don't you think there'd be a lineup for him or no? I mean... Yes. I do. Yeah.

I think there'd be a big marketplace and that's part of why if he gets dealt I Think part of the explanation that will come from Don Sweeney is probably going to be listen where we are Need assets and we love this guy But the interest was high and I think that's part of what we'll get other than That means they will have also not been able to come to terms on extension, which by the way could could still happen And then beyond him, are you buying that Charlie coil Brandon Carlo big right shot defenseman still in his prime? Like how deep could it go in Boston? Yeah, they're definitely listening on Carlo who's probably the most intriguing of all the names you gave out there

that smells to me more Brian like a Yeah, call us but you know they gotta make it count right yeah yeah they're intriguing I mean this is one of those real crossroads moment for one of the league's great franchises that has been good for a long time but the bill has come up finally after all these years in this system so it's a really reminds me a bit of Washington a couple years ago when I thought these they went down a really clever path but at the time it wasn't that obvious right so let's see what Boston does here. With Pierre LeBrun our TSN hockey insider so

you know we began talking about the Leafs and Braden Shen and the value and they're calling on him and Brock Nelson and Scott Lawton. Beyond that center ice position, is there anything else the leaves you believe are targeting and how crazy could the leaves get between now and 3 p.m. tomorrow? Well, certainly our understanding today is that center and D is still absolutely when they're calling around the league and we're hearing from other place around the league center and the center and the center and the they're still on that track so again right-hand the right shot do you would would be the preference and when they narrow that pierre like when

are they circle around and circle around and circle like one i know before well i know i will but when they actually decide well, we're going to go with that? Like, what if you... So often what happens, to be honest, is that you have four or five names on your list and three are gone suddenly and you're like, uh-oh. Yeah. That's why, Pierre, I love the Jim Rutherford approach where he does his business in December and January and it's like...

Yeah. And to be fair, the Leafs actually... Put his feet up on deadline. fair the least actually in the last five six years have been one of those teams the Leafs haven't really waited till the last minute most years so this is a bit of a throwback scenario for Toronto but what about San Jose like this Ferraro yes that's what I like him like I do I I think he's a really good defenseman doesn't make a ton of money yeah play in all situate like they're listening on him just gonna say they get garnering a lot of interest on him they are and 26 years old left shot D plays in your top four he's got

a year and a half left on his deal at I think it's three point one two five million three yeah really good figure I think it's why they're listening because I think someone might get overexcited you why they're listening because I think someone might get over excited you know, they're comfortable bringing him back and Going through all this again next year potentially but Boy, he'd be a guy You know, I feel like he's a guy the Edmonton Oilers should be all over but but I don't know that they are You know, I think the oilers had some interest in Brian Dumalin who got dealt earlier today to New Jersey I think Carson Suzyze a possibility for the

orders anybody sniffing around that jacob truba no you know what all um... never say never but you must quite happy anaheim and i think he's ready to see to be part of that does that ship these like it's turning their nan and they're playing better there so that you know some of this potential is starting to come together and i think jacob trubas pretty happy now

what i think teams care about that well i think they're anaheim there have to be care fees comfortable there are not a lot of questions in quickly as the john gibson train finally like you know came out of the game last night and like i i'd rather talk about it tomorrow i'm not yet you know obviously i'm gonna bring it up but

we did a stat he's come out of in the last two years of nineteen games like a live hockey games he's been games that he has started in yes come out nineteen times yeah injury poll all of that like if there was a marketplace for him like that's something people have to circle like yeah I think he's staying put now I actually I did a little update on him yesterday and one of my rumblings for

the athletic you know the two teams all along that you know his camp you know this is out there noodles knows this like his camp was working with Anaheim on seeing what the market was all year long like they were working in conjunction and he was willing to wave to go to Edmonton, Carolina was high on his list, the hurricanes went pretty far down the path to trade firm last summer we've since realized it didn't get done Carolina and Anaheim have talked again during the season but that one has at least last I checked falling apart because the Ducks feel that John Gibson's playing better this year and if they're retaining on the rest of his

deal which two more years at six six point four million a year but that's probably worth the first round pick in their mind and really and what about what is Carolina said yes see you later yeah we're not doing that I would have said here what is it worth to you that he comes out of the net nineteen-time well your that's negative for a while last and it's and listen and i i'm not scared the reason i call noodles all time when i write about bullies the athletic is because i need him to tell me what's what because

bullies hers i'm so confused we're at all the old thing right now and a lot of orders fans are like the orders to trade for john gibson i'm so confused we're going to tell the old thing right now and a lot of lawyers fans are like the orders to trade for john gibson i'm telling you the lawyers do not view him as an upgrade on steward skinner especially with that contract so and all that's say that it's a fair assessment though based on availability hazy state all the time really get

got the available to play like you it it i don't think it's a. You can introduce yourself to the trainer staff. That's really what it is. That's not ideal. I think Edmonton's got to trade for a goaltender, but somebody who is a three. Somebody who can play in the minors and be an NHL call-up. The Leafs have Matt Murray. That lost in all of this, if there's an injury or anything. The Toronto Maple Leafs have Matt Murray like that lost in all of this if there's an injury or anything

The Toronto Maple Leafs has a guy who has at least played NHL games and been you know deep Well, one cups like the flat-out was one cups one two cups other organizations We saw Florida do it with Lord as we yeah, Florida's rejigged their their second and third now a couple moves later Yeah, yeah trigger to what? now a couple of moves later yeah yeah Drager to what Kacken it right so now yeah Kacken it Winnipeg and Florida yeah okay it's just interesting all right Pierre well we're getting close here we're getting close to your time tomorrow 3 p.m. the last thing I'd say it just because I'm it's the other one I'm really fascinated is the Brock Nelson situation and again not to make light of

it you saw how emotionally got a couple nights ago on the Islanders telecast but Lula Amorello is the last GM in the league to pull up a white flag on his team season. He believes in his team and the fact that they're four points out right now for a lot of people would be you got to sell. He sees a team that's still just four points out and so I'm telling you that the last few days have been really difficult for everyone involved i think to get lula amorello to a place where he's ready to trade brock nelson which he may be

by tomorrow by the way it's just fascinating that the human side to all this where he loves brock nelson he was still trying to sign him i think last night and obviously that hasn't happened but it you know we we look at it without emotions it's so obvious alander should trade brock nelson but we all of it here all of it like what are they hanging onto their they don't win playoff series and they don't get into the agaragas it's over it's game over

i have no idea the attachment i do understanding they got a new building uh... it's just that team doesn't work whatever it is that group of players doesn't work what is the attachment i think he probably is this time i think when it takes the best fit by the way form rock nelson i i i love the fit for when it paid but i know new jersey since losing jack use has showed a lot of interest lease have stayed in their uh... colorado kind of

under the radar as usual the will see well see you bright early tomorrow pierre appreciate you doing this state in there uh... colorado kind of under the radar as usual we'll see well see a bright early tomorrow pierre appreciate you doing this right on ron areas pierre labrador tsn hockey insider joining us here on the maple toyota hotline i will come back with hazy bees list and yeah i mean all the players were all where they are now right but we know who we're gonna be talking about it's going to be mico

randin and brock nelson we don't know who we're gonna be talking about it's gonna be mico ranton and and brock nelson we didn't ask him even about brock besser what the canucks are gonna do with him uh... his name is out there and shan and marshawn and you know there's there's some pretty pretty big household names that are available and you know what which teams are gonna be the ones to broker the deals and

you know if you're if you're a leaf and you keep hearing while they're calling on this guy and trying to find out the price on that you gotta pull the trigger at some point if you want a guy like i love that term they're hanging in there what exactly does that mean i don't know if that guy is still available is that what hanging in there means probably waiting for the price to drop you know it's a game of chicken right now is what it is and crazy yeah I just hope

that well we didn't have did we have the seven out of ten Hayes by four o'clock today I don't think we did noodles yeah I don't think Luke Shen for bunting count which was Tommy Novak Tommy Novak Jerry Novak and yeah like I I don't know I don't know I I don't think it counts. Riley Smith back to Vegas. I don't think it counts. But he said, you know, Rantinen, Dallas, Florida, Vegas are the teams, you know, that would indicate to me that Rantinen's agent has basically said that's where he's going to go. No state tax, no state tax, no state tax. Southern market wins all the time. It's a grind, man. It's a grind.

If it's Florida or I don't know wins all the time. It's a grind, man. It's a grind. It's fair. If it's Florida, I don't know how Vegas could possibly do it. I'm not saying that they won't find a way to do it because they always do, but like last year they acquired Hurdle and Hanifin and it's been Mark Stone in the past and now you're just going to go out and find a way to make ranting in work? They can if Vegas eats half the cap,

and it's like a $2.5 million cap head. Crazy. How do you sign them in the future, and to what? And who else? I don't know, they'll figure that out when they get there, I guess. We gotta get into, the Edmonton Oilers just tweeted this out.

Catch Oilers alumni Jason Strudwick at tonight's game presented by Fort Canada Stopped by the photo booth this guy's got a kissing booth set up at a game tonight Struddy's got a kissing booth going before the deadline tonight What a draw I saw you and him have a segment here. All I saw on Twitter was welcome to Struddy's world He's got his own show now. I was a guest on it He'll never call me in Hayes to come on Call you like it's an afternoon show. I used to go on with it

I was one of his first guests you would have been noodles You were I was his first ever guest his first ever get was sunday nights at like midnight it was amateur hour i'm not going on it and he'd be texting me like hazy when you come on i'm like yeah strud who's who what's the show he's like it's just me for three hours three hours and you know what i was teasing him about it because he had a list of things he wanted to get to

and he was hell bent i could have said that this decide you know the sky was on fire he would have been like noodles you got a lazy glove like he had all these jokes he wanted to get to you right it was wayne's world it was so funny totally descriptive lines like that's a funny line right there it's okay i wasn't really I was kind of being serious strut But yeah, there it is catching orders alumnus Jason Strudwick for tonight's game presented by Ford Canada stopped by the Ford Maverick photo booth at section 115 for a chance to

Snap a pic with strutty Wow is wearing that helmet I hope he is to have his his a-game suit on a pair of jeans so we got to get a report somebody's got to get yeah we need a picture of him in the kissing booth tonight yeah all right hazy bees list coming up Darren Pang will join us we've got dear hazy be in an hour our best but still to come as well overdrive continues tsn 1050 and on TSN 4. Darren Pang in half an hour, Dear Hazy B in an hour. The Arnie Palmer is off and running. You see Cameron Young shot a 10 over 82 today. And his opening tee shot, he had AirPods in his ears.

I didn't even think that was legal for some reason. I don't think it would be. That's a scenario where you, not that anyone can really help you off the course but I don't know what he was doing man but the guy was in his own world and he snapped one off one. He was playing tunes on the putting green, just shut the tunes off on his phone and walked to the first tee, but that's what you have a caddy for. Exactly. What about the dude you're playing with wouldn't you think someone would say man? You got air pods in right right you're on the PGA tour Yeah, this is Arnold Palmer's house at Bay Hill like come on. Hey listen to a book

Yeah, and he's not hooked his drive and tripled the first hole then took the air pods out You know whose game is in the toilet right now? the first hole that took the air pods out. You know whose game is in the toilet right now? Max Homa. Yes, a mess. He was like eight over today. Dude, the fact he's in the field with what he's been doing is insane. Yeah, he's in a really bad place.

Bad place. Fired his swing coach. He's got new gear and everything. I don't know. Anyway, Shep was out there doing his thing. Corey Connors played well. Mac Hughes Mac Hughes right a couple of Canadians in there. Cory Connors always plays well at that golf course Yeah, he loves Arnie. He loves Bay Hill. It's so tough too. You can just see it alright, so we'll track that throughout the afternoon as well and

It is a Thursday. I have a hazy bees list Yes And the pressure on the seven Canadian GM's to get things done between now and seven. Now there's a different way to interpret what get things done, right? Is that buying, is it selling or whatever? I was going through this today and I had such a, I changed it, it was like the top 50 list. Because you can make a case for all these guys. Is this actually like getting things done or like the idea of what to try to get done?

Well, yes. I mean the pressure of trying to get things done. You have pressure as the GM of this respective team because your fan base and your players are like, what are we doing here? Let's go. All right. At number seven, I have Craig Conroy of the Calgary Flames. So what is tough about this is they're right in the playoff hunt. Like you can make a case

that if you're in Calgary, you're like, Hey, Craig, let's try to get in here. Why not? But I don't, I've never got that impression all year from people in Calgary that I think they're playing with house money. They're happy about the way things have gone. Ryan Hoska has done a good job as their head coach. They get in great if they miss, that I think they're playing with house money. They're happy about the way things have gone. Ryan Huska's done a good job as their head coach. They get in great if they miss, but I think the moves they're gonna make, like maybe they, you know, are you a third team on a trade? Do you pick up a pick here or there?

Do you dump a guy here or there that maybe you feel like, okay, not a part of the process in the future, but I don't think they're gonna be big buyers, big sellers. I think they're just gonna kind of go about their business. That would be my expectation. I think that's fair. I think it's fair. The biggest chip they have, I don't believe they want to move, and that's Rasmus Anderson,

who makes 4.8, we'll call it. For how many more years? This year and next year. So you'd have him for two playoff runs He's a top pairing right shot defense in the defenseman that plays in all situations Power play penalty kill all that he's physical like that's a guy that you either Are gonna figure out if you're gonna sign and keep him with the group moving forward or you move them But sounds like they're you know, they're gonna stand Pat. I don don't know again I I act like I know stuff with Calgary I don't but but the biggest thing is they're in a playoff spot right now and a lot of that's got to do with

the kid who could be rookie for the year Dustin Wolfe for sure he's been fantastic so I agree with you Brian I don't think there's a lot of big moves to be made but it doesn't mean that if somebody doesn't come calling for Get crazy for category regardless. They'll do it. Oh guys. They're not gonna be heavily scrutinized. Exactly That's that's the point of the pressure right pressure being the opposite where I don't think in Calgary. They're like Craig You got to do this. You got to do that This one is somewhat shocking even to me to look at it on the list at number six and it's my list I have Patrick Alveon at six in Vancouver because I don't think they're far

removed from where Calgary is now that wasn't the expectation the expectation was your competitive chasing a Stanley Cup this year but all hell is broken loose out there no and and now I'm like if you're in Vancouver the pressure is to clean it up yes but I think you got to be realistic in terms of whether or not you can do that between now and 3 p.m. tomorrow. I 100% agree with you, Brian, because I was asked about it. I actually just went at it a different way. I just said, get your house in order.

That's really what they need to do. They've got to figure out if Pettersen can be sorted out. They've got three Pettersens on their team, literally. The last name, three Pettersen can be sorted out. They got three Pettersens on their team, literally, the last name, three Pettersens, two defensemen and the star forward. They got to get him going. You got to figure that out. So I don't think it's massive moves. You do have to figure out what you're going to do with Brock Besser. That's the only near that pops out. Yes, there is pressure on that. That is an element of pressure for sure that you could make the case, maybe Alvin and the Canucks would go up a little bit

But a pressure in terms of you know this year the stretch run Competitiveness I have Patrick Alvin at six. I have Kent Hughes at five in Montreal. Yeah You know the Habs again, I think are playing with more house money than anyone including Calgary That may be maybe not I'm in Calgary and the Habs might be on a similar pathway But you know the Habs they've been rebuilding they kind of want scorched earth, they're young, they're trying to figure this out. They do have some pending UFAs that they're going to need to make decisions on but they just signed Jake Evans. That is somewhat of a sign that they're still in it and they're pushing for it and they're going to do it

somewhat quietly but I think in Montreal, they're pretty happy with the way this season has played out, you know, all things considered. And I think they're reasonable in Montreal. They'd love to get in. You'd love to get in if you're a Habs fan, but I don't think there's pressure that he's got to do something one way or the other. Well, Hey, it's the problem with like, just people are like, get rid of all these guys, like you get to a point where training camps three months after the

season, then you're like, we need to put some bodies on this team. Right. You know what I mean? So to just say get rid of guys to get rid of them, that's why prices are so high because teams aren't just going to get rid of players for the sake of getting rid of players. Exactly. Agreed. Exactly.

Unless you're Pittsburgh and Nashville. Unless you're two teams like Pittsburgh and Nashville who are trying to mix it up. They just wanted to make a transaction. San acquire Vinny Dan at day RNA to like he's been like three times now They are a Vancouver pit San Jose. Yeah. Yeah The oilers were onto something letting him walk That's that's I always think that is that S E Montag got dealt in Tampa like a young guy probably has a cool condo in Tampa Bay Oh, yeah flip-flops and shorts. Oh beach parties dating girls. Oh Seattle across the country and they said they're not going anywhere and I heard Seattle's awesome

But it would just be he would have a cool gig at Tampa like it would just be a cool kid Yeah, it would be a cool cool kid yet it would be a cool day and it was very cool uh... alright the uh... seven canadian gm's in canada pressure list at number four of kevin shoveled they are both the one of the judge this is where you could make a case for the the four remaining guys it could i could listen to any of you jockie these positions and listen to all of them this with a pegs been a great team this year but they've had a bit of a skid.

They haven't been scoring goals lately. That second line, I think most people have conceded that's something that they're going to try to attack. They kind of have to. You've got Nemistikov up the middle. You've got Profetti playing largely on the offside on the right wing. What are you going to do there to create... You can always add depth. You got to hold onto that top spot too in the division.

You still gotta get there and hold onto it. There's pressure in that market for sure, a chevrolet day off. And last year he did something he generally doesn't do. He went in on Tefoli and Monaghan. They got five games out of them in the playoffs. You can't be gunshot, you gotta do it again. And you know what?

You don't want to mess with that group. Like it looks like they're a tight group. Looks like they're playing well. They're connected. But you still want to add because you are going to run into injuries and inconsistencies and it'll test your depth. So I agree. I think Chevy's right in the middle there.

He would be my four based on pressure because the team is the place reading that that i thought i'd be hired by alive for best record i thought well again since it's that i think you know what it takes you gotta be happy with the way everything's been going this year you know you gotta be happy with the way they've been built with the way they've been playing

well it but what's the price that you pay so when you look at their roster in in i like their third line i think it's the best that you pay so when you look at their roster? And and I like their third line I think it's the best third line in hockey, but I but their second line is the Elers domestic off and perfetti So are you saying you know do you? You know without upsetting the apple cart you maybe you're looking for a top six to just a little bit I think that's clear. It sounds like Brock Nelson Maybe you know do you go get Ricard Raquel? You know, you got to determine who's put up the middle of the ice to keep the Masticov there

Do you bump them back to the wing? The only thing I would say about that line is that they're small They're not like you look at they're they're light. Yeah, they're good players, but they're Eilers Not a big guy competes really hard, but not a big guy. No Masticoff. Not a big guy. Profetti's not a big guy competes really hard but not a big guy namastacoff not a big guy Profetti not a big guy. So maybe there is you're right if it's Nelson or somebody like that with a little bit more Beef to him, you know that that's maybe where you're looking right? So Kevin Sheldon they have with the Jets at four number three Stan Bowman of the Edmonton Oilers Stan Bowman of the Edmonton Orlers. Now they made the Frederick deal and the reason the pressure, I got them at three is because this Vander Cane clarity thing is clouding my judgment on what they're going to do or what they can do.

Which is a confusing scenario because Rashad tweeted out today he hasn't worked out back to back days. Right, exactly. I think they've got to him and said, play-offs if you want to play here and he might I think that makes sense I think you kind of have to do that like you kind of just have to wink wink nudge nudge Guess what? We love you. We want to stick around but you can't play until the playoffs And if that's the case then there's pressure to use that money, right? You got to use the money you got to get up to the cap and you got to make some moves and they're in they're in

the biggest rut Really all these teams the way they're playing and I plan well recently and I would have them hire I would have them well just based on there is I think there is identifiable holes in that roster where they are very good team they got that they got all these things but there is like they need a number for either a four or a five depending on They like Kulak who can play in the four hole with nurse and he's played well with him But that's not a case there is for there's a lot of similarities to Toronto where it's like

they're going they go dumpster diving for third and fourth line players and But that's what you're gonna get like this Yeah, but I'm saying they need a defenseman. They made the trade for at home players and that's what you're gonna get. But I'm saying they need a defenseman, they made the trade for Ekholm, they need another guy. So does Toronto. They got Tanev, they need another guy. You're right but I think they're comfortable, again, everybody has to play better.

I think they're comfortable with Ekholm, Bouchard with nurse and Kulak I think what they need is somebody else who is If there's a Carlo if there's a Susie if there's somebody else who is big and irritable like on that back end So that's yeah, that's an identifiable and I also think there when you look at it. They I think they like their third line You know, they got frederick probably add maybe a fourth line center all granted that now what i would say is why i've i probably trump card on third is that they're gonna probably play l a in the first round and l a is good they're

not great made on them in the past bro compared to the other two teams i'm gonna get to which are very different scenarios fair edmonton you know the struggle right now but you've been saying all week noodles do you look at it when they're at their bottom or at the top? And how do you feel about them? Yes, identifiable spots they got to improve on for sure. But, you know, they've got the makings of a team that was did what they did last year and

they're going to have a scenario where they probably, if they end up in that two hole play LA, I like the position they're in more than if the Leafs are in the two or three hole and they're playing Tampa or Florida. Yeah quickly here number two I got Steve Steyo said number two in Ottawa and this is more about the fact that for years you've told your fans rebuilds over this is the year we're gonna do it different coaches, different players and it's like okay you got it now you're in there you're right there like there, you're right there.

Like, you're right there, what are you going to do? Are you going to try to make a move or two? I think there's pressure in the market here that is different from the other markets because it's about like, you got to get in here, man. Like Edmonton and Toronto and Winnipeg, it's like, can you win a cup? You got pressure to try to, that's not what people are asking for in Ottawa. But if you miss with 87 points and the 88 points Detroit gets in, that'll be a sickening feeling in Ottawa.

That would be, yeah. It'd be sickening feeling. It'd be like all the years you couldn't get 90 points. It was this year. Right. You couldn't add a piece or two in the lineup, especially with the injury concerns. Will Norris make it to the end? Right.

And like on defense, they've now had some some injuries right to their debt players noodles Yeah, Cleven clever number five is out weak to weak right you're right. It's your bot left last night But it sounds like it was sickening sickness. So you're right. I think he should be in the two hole I actually might have it based on what you were talking about have him higher but I know we're going with the well and number one is Brad tree living and that in large part because of what's happened with the other two teams in the division the last couple of days whether that's reasonable or not when we're talking about let me just interrupt you Seth Jones a needle mover maha's like well he automatically make them a contender I

don't I don't know I can't hear already are you but that's the point do you think with or without Seth Jones you think the Leafs are definitely beating Florida I don't know you think without you know Bjork strand and Gord Tampa was definitely only point I'm trying to make is yeah I get worse York Strand those like set but they are better and they were already good teams can argue that that's the whole thing Yes, not needle movers not future Hall of Famers But already good teams with pedigree that actually win and the Leafs are sitting here and it's like listen

They they keep saying we believe in Austin. We believe in John. We believe in Willie. We want to sign Mitch Well, if you if you believe in them Then you got to prove that you do like it doesn't matter what anyone else is Thinking or what what the value is or what the other pieces are going to be. This administration, with Keith Pelley there, MLSC, a new ownership in terms of all the power in Rogers, I think there's pressure on the Leafs to be like, if you keep telling everyone this is going to work, it's your night, it better work.

So, defense, center, they need some help, this team I think yeah. All right. There you go. There's my list pressure is arbitrary Everyone sees it differently. They define it differently Sure people will be very civil in their reactions to that first time you did a list I don't agree with a lot of it, but I thought it was well presented. Well, thank you. I appreciate that greatly But I thought it was well presented. Well, thank you. I appreciate that greatly Darren Pang in 15 dear hazy be at 630 overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN for all right Yeah, thank coming up. He was calling the game last night Alex Ovechkin scores again. He's 10 back of the record nine back of tying Gretzky 10 back of setting a new record and He's he could do it like around the same

amount of games Gretzky did it in which is incredible when you consider like what you know Wayne Gretzky stats and all that was just absurd but yeah OV man it's I think it's gonna happen it feels like it's gonna happen this year think if there's no work stoppage, COVID, this guy would be. Yeah, absolutely, man. He got hit with, even his rookie year, he would have been in the league.

But the original lockout, he got drafted in 2004, I believe it was. He would have stepped right in and played that year. So he got hit with three lockouts, I think, and then COVID. We're talking about 1, I think, and then COVID and you're talking about a thousand goals, potentially. Yes, absolutely. He could be at a thousand goals because he would add 19.

He would have scored 50 or 45. Like for sure, he would have he would have stepped right in and scored 40 plus without a question full season with a lockout like that's throw another 40 in there. Like it's crazy. Yeah, he'd be over a thousand already. Yeah. All right. Final hour coming up. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050N on the TSN app. on iHeartRadio. Rock, pop, hip hop, and when it comes to country, it's the true north all the way. Loud and proud. An all new digital radio station from coast to coast. Made in Canada, played in Canada on the free iHeartRadio app and at iHeartRadio.ca. It's gonna get loud.