OverDrive - OverDrive - May 1, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: May 1, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! NHL on TNT Analyst Darren Pang joins to discuss the Maple Leafs' playoff identity, the impactful players and the battle in the series for the team. They also dive into the scheduling of the second round throughout the Stanley Cup Playoffs, the number of possible Game 7s in the first round and LeBron James' comments following the defeat against the Timberwolves.

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And at iHeartRadio.ca. Hour 2 Overdrive continues. Powered by Fuil bringing you everything from the opening line of the final score game six tonight leave sends we'll head to Ottawa catch up with Darren Pang in a few moments we cannot wait for the game tonight you can hear it right here on TSM radio. Big game man big game everyone else in the East is waiting at home I don't even know if they're watching tonight you think Florida's even watching the game. I told you they're watching they're watching like high school bullies looking in the classroom through the piece

of glass saying, who's coming out at recess? Yeah. Yeah. That's how they're watching. Someone's going to have to fight them. Someone's going to have to take them on. Someone's going to have to take them on. Who wants it?

Is Ottawa? You want to come out and play recess? Or do the Leafs? You guys want to play at recess? Because we've got some angry people out here. So funny. Someone's got to take care of business. Remember when we were younger how terrified you were of like if there was a monster out

there that had your name on it. Oh yeah. There was always a guy in grade eight or nine that looked like he was 27. You're like, that guy means business. That's trouble, man. Or if someone's older brother was there for some reason, and you're like, why is that guy there? I have not been treating his brother well for weeks.

No, we used to have the... That's the problem. We used to have the hill. They'd be like, well, meet you on the hill. And everyone would go to the hill, and there'd be a fight on it, man. And it was like a brawl. Oh, all the time.

It was a brawl. I remember. And it was like a brawl. Oh, all the time. It was a brawl. I remember. And the teachers probably knew about it. They're like, I'm not going out there. Let them solve it. Who cares? Totally different world now. Very different world now, I would assume.

Probably for the best. But yeah, we'll see what comes of it tonight. And maybe we get a Craig Berube versus Travis Green back and forth like we saw last night because we will play this right here because I find it funny, like Jim Montgomery, the head coach of the Blues, I actually think he might have a point. He might have a point with what he actually describes here. I just don't recall the last time a coach went out, you know, tried to get out in front of it.

What he's doing is trying to protect Braden Shent from being possibly suspended and calling Shife Lee 55 I don't know but it just had a tone. That's Paul McClain. Remember Paul McClain would do numbers. Yeah Yeah, that's right. Like not naming the player just 55 So this is Jim Montgomery after the game head coach of the blues after Braden Shenz and Fox's big hits on Shife Lee last night Let's make it clear 55 got hurt from the fax ahead He played six minutes after the shen hit he didn't come back after he got rocked by fax

Oh, well, I didn't know Monty you got his medical degree. medical degree trying to say how our player got hurt. He's way off base. Should not make that comment. There's some things that have been going on in this series and that was a repeat of what we've seen before. A player leaving his feet and then hitting a player in a very unprotected spot like hitting them in the sense I'm almost blindsiding them. Not happy how the call was made. Two minute minor. Not even looking at it is what I was upset about and it is something that we have talked to the league about for five games. All right well as I said, very Canadian.

Like, Monty, I think, is like a Montreal guy. And Scott Arniel's from Kingston. Don't kid yourself, man. When he heard Monty make those calls, he wanted to stuff Monty in a garbage can. Yes. Furious with him. He's not wrong. I don't recall a coach ever saying,

Hey, let's be clear. Like, let's be clear. This is what actually happened. I wouldn't want any other coach talking about any of my players I wouldn't either but I think I mean nuts I think he might be on to something though like Montgomery it's it he didn't leave after the shen hit he did keep playing Right, so but you know what the thing is guys Monty had that in his holster because he knew the exact, he played six minutes, he played this amount, like he knew exactly that that question was coming. So he, I agree, he was trying to diffuse it.

And Scott O'Neill has a leg to stand on. He came out, I don't know if you saw, between the, after the first period and he was reading the refs, the riot act. He was so angry last night. And saying like. And he was pissed. but rightfully so because they win but who knows we don't know the nature of the injury it could be a concussion it could be on the fax a hit that he subluxed his shoulder who

knows or you know like because they were big collisions and if you go back into the games because i I'll be honest, the games three, four, and now five, Shifely got run over, like hit hard. And he's not wrong, he's been targeted. Because what happens, you target the other team's top players and you make life hard on them. And if you get an opportunity to get a lick on them it's called you get a good hit on them and that's what makes me sad for Shifeley is he was in a tough spot there took a little peek and shan hammered him and that's and I was not even flying with the team and

it sucks because you're right they're gonna have to try and win in that building where St. Louis has won 14 games in a row now in that building they got to go in there and try and close it out. I don't think they, I think they can do it, but it's gonna be a lot tougher not having your best player, your number one center man in the lineup. And no guarantees he'll play game seven now. Well, if you're not even flying with the team,

that would suggest to me. Yeah, this doesn't mean your Miraculous is gonna be ready to play game seven if there is one. No, exactly. Like Shifely could literally, he could be out for the long term here, and it just changes everything about the roster like now what you play the mystic of the play in a lot reply a lot of minutes as he should last night

but what are you gonna do like who you get it that was a big discussion leading up to the trade deadline can you find someone to really help you up the middle of the ice uh... man it was it's been a nasty series uh... here's a gas very familiar with both of those teams every team only here's our main man from the n.h.l. and tn t here's darren pang a dot hanger he's the undoing fantastic in fact i'm not

i'm situated here dying in noodles old house right here so i thought it was i'll take care of it for you all right buddy all right i got way more notes that you had I saw you there a couple of weeks ago when the Hawks were in town so but but all good fellas all good I know you're talking about that game and they hit last night and the other hit by by fax it as well you know on the same player and I know that this what was it he hit back somebody still play for six or seven minutes and I saw the coaches going back and forth a little bit on that little negotiation but those are two heavy hits against against Slicely especially especially the one by Shen. Absolutely. It was a monster monster hit and you mentioned you're in Ottawa. So you'll be watching this tonight. Game six.

So you'll be watching this tonight game six From a leaf perspective considering their history considering what we saw from them out of game five What what do you expect to see out of the Maple Leafs tonight early in this game? Well, you would think there would be a little bit more grease I just spent a little time with with chief and and you know chief has always Been a guy that influences or likes to preach to his players, don't just give the puck away. No hopeful, wistful passes. And you guys all know what that game's all about.

You know, you get around the perimeter and you try to feed it into the slot. But Ottawa, the last couple of games, I think they've done a great job at taking away the slot. And I think if you're Toronto, and I think that's probably what Chief wants to tell these boys, is hold on to the puck. Hold on and wear them down and see if you can get a little chaos in the offensive zone instead of trying that pass. It's not working. Always trying to make that next play.

So, uh, in my just conversation this morning, like you guys, I'm sure it's, it's get some grease to your game, get some battle, hold onto pucks, uh, get more shots from the point to get to more rebounds. I'm not mistaken guys. And I think they're the worst team in the playoffs at rebound chances. I mean, they're only getting one or one and a half or two rebounds per game. I mean, that's crazy. So not enough traffic on the inside, not enough getting through and not enough greasy stuff

or juicy rebounds in front of Leenas All-Market. Darren, there's been a bunch of talk about the key players for the Maple Leafs in the last couple days because of their inability to close out games of those guys that we all know who they are. Who are you most fascinated to kind of put eyes on as the game starts? There's only one for me. He's number 88. I mean, you know, I mean, more than I know that he more so than 34 panger

Yes more so than 34. Okay, you know, I I think this is just me but I think I think Pinto and and really Greg and Amadio I think they they're gonna do a good job and they're gonna be heavy against him. They're gonna get the last change They're gonna they're gonna be on the interior, you know Austin Austin, to me, is a big part of it, for sure. But man, when I watched that last game with William Nylander, I think this is a game that Nylander gets some speed. Nylander gets the puck. Stay on the hunt a little bit more.

I thought there was just a whole lot of that going on, you know, in game five, a game in which your power plays struggling. It's on not over seven in the last couple of games you're a big part of the team you you want the puck in the neutral zone and if it's not there you got to find a way to get the puck back so I mean to me even more so than Austin I'm gonna go towards Nylander and especially with Pat Suretti on that left side for this game I know and if I'm not mistaken they played the most five on five minutes during the regular season with Pat Toretty on the left side so I know there's been an alternating left winger you know with those two guys with Tavares and and with a Nylander but man I would I would have

to think that if you look beside you and you disappoint your teammate and your Nylander that's that's doing a little bit of that and I'm not getting into the grunt of things I think that would be pretty disappointing if I'm the least teammate Panger what do you make of the guys between the pipes? You know? Almark's game has gotten stronger stole our sir You know is lost his last two, but it's it's tough to find the puck. There's a lot of traffic in front What do you make of both of them and and where they're at in a series right now?

You know what noodles? I think it's a tale of you know tale of two net're at in a series right now you know what noodles i get to tell of you know tell us to use net front presence is going on right now and and it's you know as well as i do you you see it you see parts are shot from the point and nobody's on the interior noodles i could even stop some of them try to like that uh... i think a lot of it i think that

i caught i'd call one between the banks of the new by wrong and i think i still got it uh... but but you know what when there's a lot of it i thought i'd call one between the bench the other day of a wrong and i think i still got it uh... but but you know what when there's a swarm of of moving screens and flash screens and then there's guys at hunker and stay there every other series is that four five six guys in front of the net uh... and and that to me is that is the difference in the in the two and uh... but yet does all marketable confidence this way or absolutely

neither one of these a whole lot of even straight shots if i'm not mistaken fourteen against all mark in the last game only seventeen against all our stores and there hasn't a whole lot of that greasy stuff at five on five we're getting back now you're you're right in and it's uh... it's interesting games two through five angered and very similar like game one the lease got off to a quick start They're up to nothing their power plays cooking. They ran away with it. The building was really going crazy

But the last four games have been very very similar And I'm curious, you know the mentality you think the Leafs could have coming off of being shut out You know, you don't see a ton of shutouts in the playoffs man Especially for a high octane offense like this like the mentality of the Maple Leafs. You talked about what you expect to see what you think the messaging will be what they have to do. How much of your analysis and I guess projection of what the Leafs could do tonight is trying to read their minds and figure out whether or not they're up for the task of raising their game and stepping up in the biggest

moments we'll find out about that right off the hop i mean that ability to get on the inside that ability to take a hit to make a play you know the vocal what i'll be watching here is is between the benches is how vocal it is you know when it's vocal it know, when it's vocal, it's confident. When it's not confident, it's quiet. And who's the player that steps up? Who's the player that keeps everything going and keeps everything alive on that bench no matter what is happening?

So how are they going to deal with pressure? How are they going to deal with the fact that the power play has let them down? And I know it's the past and I know it's you know you got to go back in history but I mean I'm going back to 2018 when they're 1-13 in clinching games and only score 25 goals like why is that? Why is that haunted them? What happened? Oh dog what happened when you were Maple Leaf? I played in the good years when you and Kujo were playing and you were battling like crazy

like where's that battle? Where's that you know where's that gumption in a game like this? Because I really think, I know Ottawa's playing with house money right now. I mean, for them to win the last two games and bring it back home, I mean, that's great on them and great experience for so many of their young players that are just, they're just figuring this out. But now, you know what you're going to see from Brady Kachuk, you're going to see a bunch of boys that are going to have a lot of energy and enthusiasm and get this place going and try to shut down the big boys of the Toronto Maple Leaf.

Maybe there's some guys in the bottom six that can change things up here for Toronto and give them a little life. It's not always on the big guys all the time. You could also, they're getting the O from the D and now they got to get it maybe from the bottom six and help them out a little bit. That gumption panger and that jam, whatever you're looking for, I think the fan base is probably, maybe they're past this point, but they're thinking, if again this year they can't show up in a clinching game to get it done, are we just fooling ourselves to even

expect it after all these years? I think that's kind of where everybody's at. Yeah, and you know, Oh Doug, I've been on with you guys, this award winning program for expected after all these years I think that's kind of where everybody's at yeah and you know oh dog I've been on that with you guys this award-winning program for all season long and a lot of times we talked about you know chief coming over because of my just my experiences of being with chief and these are the moments you know these are the moments that you you you know you drive it through there sometimes thick skulls because they want to do things still going back on what they want to do before.

And he wants to take them into another avenue of holding on to pucks and wearing down the opposition and being disciplined in that area. So to me, this is a big test for everybody. I mean, certainly for chief, making sure it's done the right way and the players to follow suit. And you know, this morning, so many guys talked about not letting down the guy next to you. I mean that's not just about the X's and O's, that's about being a team and being together. So if that mantra gets sold heavily in that locker room and you get that stare down and

the old greasy eyeballs towards the guy next to you, maybe that's the point that carries on more than any other point, is that. Don't let your teammates down beside you. But at the other end, you got a team over here that's, hey listen, you know what Ottawa's all about. You know that they've, they can defend, they can play, and they've got D to get up the ice and can scare you. More so than what Toronto has. So there's a lot of elements to Toronto's, to Ottawa's game, excuse me, that Toronto's got a fully respect here. For sure with Darren Pang ahead of game six tonight he's in Ottawa, Lee Sen Sen's again looking to survive and they will not be alone this evening where Minnesota's looking to

survive Colorado's looking to survive and the LA Kings are looking to survive when you look out west Minnesota Colorado, Colorado, LA, which one, Panger, do you have the most confidence in in terms of winning tonight? You know, I just finished up a couple of games in the Edmonton, LA. Really disappointing the way LA played, you know, on whole mice. There are some similarities to tron was game uh... but and you know i'd think that the four lines now of the edmonton oilers

i'd like to read credit scheme in the last one that was his best games uh... what calls it on the fourth line i thought they were factors so going back to the main place every talks about the to the core four players well you know what i think thaton got a lot of jams from their bottom six in that game and that's why I like Edmonton right now. So that's one. I like that you know the Minnesota Wild aren't going to go away. I think the Minnesota Wild are going to extend and go forward. I think the Edmonton Oilers

are going to finish and that's going to be done with and I think that the Colorado Avalanche are going to continue on. They're not going to go away. That one's going to go 7. All right. I would love to see it. I mean, that's the thing. We could have a scenario tonight where there are as many as four game 7s declared, right? Because, and this is it. Then if St. Louis wins wins like we could have five and what's amazing panger like we've been talking about it from a Maple leaf perspective and Ottawa perspective for that matter the other three series in the east They finished in five, you know, it was it was almost routine for those teams and You know the the teams that are going home like Tampa and like Montreal and like New Jersey They have to lick their wounds, but they're all in very different situations and I don't

know how many games you got to call this year the Montreal Canadiens but they had a great season all things considered. I mean they battled down the stretch, four nations from the four nations onward they were great great story, great great team, got in. I thought they showed pretty well against Washington they just they couldn't get over the top. Do you believe that's it for the Habs? They're now officially a playoff team and that's what we can expect moving forward?

Or could you still see some growing pains? Oh, I can certainly still see some growing pains because there are still teams that didn't make the playoffs that you would expect to be back in the hunt again next year. So I mean, I don't think it's fully in their control. I think we'll have to see what teams like New York, like Detroit's been knocking on the door for the last couple of years. I don't know where Buffalo is going to go. Sometimes I think they're at that level and sometimes I think they're so far away from

that level. You know, I don't know, pitch for paint. Anyway, long story short, but I will say this. I will say this when washington made the playoffs last year lost in fourth i'm sure there's a lot of manager of the same well why get into the playoffs you get up and challenged or if you can't win or you don't have that team you know why because you get the young players in the playoffs you get them knocking on the

door like the auto us senators right here like the montreal canadians now they have a feel for it david Prawn said something today that was really, really sharp. Oh, dog, you got to pay attention to this one, okay? And I'm going to read it for you. Okay? You haven't played in the NHL until you've played playoff hockey. You haven't played playoff hockey until you've won a game in the playoffs. See, so, you know, you're just, there's going to be so many ebbs and flows and disappointments and you're going to think you're there and then you're not even close. And then you're going to think you're, you know, you're really close and then you're so far away.

So by getting into the playoffs, for me, you got to dip your toes in there and you got to get involved. And that's why I think that Montreal and the Ottawa Centres will have the advantage over the other teams that I mentioned next season. Darren, before we get you out of here, I want to ask you, you're back in Ottawa, who do you think if you went to a restaurant or a bar would cause the biggest stir? Yourself? James Duffy or Jim Ralph?

Wow! Well we'd all be at the Chances Are with Brian Kilray. So that's... So that's a good one. Well, Ralphie, for sure, I tell you, because he'll be imitating Kilray, and Kilrae will be telling Ralphie stories. And so we're good there. Duffy will just be talking about his high school diploma, you school diploma and that kind of stuff. Hey, be careful. Duthie has the key to the city. He was given the key to the city.

Oh, darn it. Yeah, well he deserves that key for sure. Me, because it's going to be me for sure. I played for the Nepean Raiders and then the Ottawa 67s. I'm not sure if I mentioned, but we won a Memorial Cup. And then I'm in the Nepean raiders and then the auto sixty seven dot that's a financial we want a memorial cop and you know and and then i'm in the nepean sports wall of fame i think there's a lot of things i could talk with the other guys but there's no need to do that okay old dog and i don't

know by the way that certain time looks really good buddy really good i don't like it dialed in your body or a game for game six and i have it and i have well enjoy being back in all of that i have said i don't force enjoy the game tonight as always we appreciate you doing this my pleasure i'm going to be ordering to tene and i have a between periods right here

yes i was the new bill that is just like they were at the end of the day i was on that spot and i'm it thank you for that spanger my pleasure fell asleep there various their packet the nhl and tnc uh... interesting is got in the landers the guys who've been on william neil and are and and he did a pre-scout a little extra pre-scouting this had a little peekaboo at the last game and

just said my god yeah willie me haze you got a better as he was a you said in it in a critical game he was out for a skate it's bizarre a world to even have that connection between the quality of player the situation and the performance yeah it's it's difficult to explain now unfortunately for Willie we've seen it before and we've seen the best and the worst of Willie we've seen the best and the worst of Willie. We've seen the best and the worst of all these guys. There's so much sample size.

Are they capable of elevating their game? Of course. If you're the Leafs, you've got to hope for that tonight. I have no doubt they will be better than they were Game 5. That doesn't guarantee anything, but I have no doubt Austin Matthews, William Nylander, Mitch Marner will be much better tonight. I, you know, we say this every game, but I do think them getting on the board is very significant early tonight. I think their best players, you know, you'll take a Steven Lawrence goal obviously, you know, five minutes into the the game but i think it's more meaningful you mentioned you're asked one o'clock they

thought a big hit early in the game a matthews goal early in the game just has a different ripple effect and i i i didn't and and and same thing with willy like willies a guy you you get him cooking early in the game tickets better and better and better and now and i guess just have a little matthewuck to your game, Hayes, where if Matthew Kachuck doesn't have his A game in the playoffs, he's scrapping and fighting and doing, and he might

not have his hands that night, and then he goes to his line mates, you know what, I just didn't have it tonight. That's his version of I just didn't have it. It's not out for a skate. No, you're right. If Kachuck doesn't have his game, he's still impactful because he does other things to drag people into the fight or to invest in the series. And it's such a cliche, but it is true. In every game, you try and take a piece of the other team. And you know what, we've seen St. Louis do that to Winnipeg too much.

That's why, you know, that's why Arniel's pissed. I mean, clearly St. Louis trying to take a piece of Shifely every game and they got a big chunk of them and that's why he's not available. But that's how you see guys with ice bags on because they're paying a price. It's finishing a check. And I asked the question to Wendell about skilled players or guys doing something different. In game one, we saw Timmy Stutzel running out of position to try and finish that check because he wanted to do something different, to be extremely physical. It's not about changing your game, it's about adapting to the situation. You guys said, yeah, an Austin Matthews goal.

Austin Matthews is 6'3", 225 pounds. He's allowed to hit two. He's allowed to finish a check. He's allowed to, you know, do something. I think that's a bigger ripple effect, Jamie, if he goes in steamrolls. I'm just saying that, you know, you're right. Obviously, the goals matter most. But to be impactful is to take a piece of somebody or win a battle that you shouldn't

have won because there's two guys there and you go in and you go, I'm taking this and I'm going to mow both of them over. Sometimes it is stepping out of what you're used to seeing from a player. And that's the difference. We always talk about those thin margins. Like Drake Batherson has been a fascinating case study. He's been on both sides of margins in this series. I would expect him to try and be really impactful. That's the one thing I noticed about his game this year and watching them a little bit closer, was Batherson's a skilled guy, but he started to use his body,

and started to be aggressive, and started to try and win battles That's what the playoffs are about tonight. It might be a game of inches It literally might be a time for games would indicate that right so so so okay, so what's the separator? It yeah, it's a big goal from a skilled player and all that but it might be You know, I don't know. It might be a block shot, it might be a physical hit, it might be a scrum that you need to stand up for everybody. I don't know what that is because there's always a TSN turning point, but I'm fascinated to see who's got it tonight.

You're right though, there's different details. You go back to game five and obviously the Chabot goal and what happened before it, you can look at that, you can look at that You can look at the cousin school But you could also reference the david perron back pressure on steven lawrence where he didn't quit on the plate You know and and that's one where you know perron that's a that's a savvy Very smart very necessary play in the playoffs to not quit on it He could have looked at it and said I can't get there. Lawrence is going to shoot He didn't shoot he tried to make one more move and because you hauled ass you got to him

Yeah, he stopped it and that's you know Those are all the small details that every player is gonna have to contribute on both sides tonight But I I am you know, I'm somewhat anticipating a nervous Atmosphere for both teams like I do think that needs to be considered here We're obviously in the eye of the storm in Toronto. Ottawa is gonna be nervous. I think they're more nervous now than they would have been in game four. Like you're down three nothing and you're at home you're like let's just go play whatever. Now the pendulum's swinging where people in their market are starting to say well

you got to win now. Like now you got to win. Like you're into game six. You got to win this game tonight. It's not about just throwing a bone to your fans. Now you got a win. So how does Ottawa handle that? Yeah, and this is where experience should work for the Leafs because they it may not it hasn't been great in these scenarios But they have experienced them before they have been here before Where you're in a scenario where you have to win or you're supposed to win Ottawa has not for the most part some guys have But not not the core of Kachuk and Stootsla and cousins and Batherson and Sanderson and Shabbat They never have so if I'm the Leafs I'm leaning on that that there's no guarantees that they just come out on their toes playing freely

They may be nervous if they are take advantage of that or you can not wait around to see if they're doing anything and push them in that real right direction you dictate yes that well that's the big part of it is who's going to dictate how the game is played to them you know and both teams obviously want it to be them if you're the Leafs the last couple games it's gone the other way it's time to take that momentum back all right game six tonight right here on TSN radio we got Pierre Lebrun coming up, Jonas Segal in about an hour, Jase Bats alive, Alejandro Kirk your boy, unreal last night unreal, home run and a walk off in the tent that was outstanding to see him

finally waking up, I love it. Yeah he looked good, he looked good last night and the Jays of course in action as well. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. All right, game six. Leafs sends tonight right here on TSN Radio. And don't forget that TSN 1050 is giving away tickets to every Maple Leaf playoff home game. And all you have to do is listen to us on the iHeartRadio app for your chance to win them. To enter, you download the iHeartRadio app, create an account and listen to TSN 1050 for at least 15 minutes straight and you can enter twice per day. So listen to first up between 6 and 10 a.m. and overdrive between 4 and 7 p.m.

The more times you listen the better your chances of winning. We'll find out if we're going to have another home game on Saturday night. If they don't have a home game on Saturday night, that means the Leafs won tonight and Florida will be flying up. I don't know, when would that start? Maybe Sunday, Monday? I'm not sure how quickly you'd want to turn things around. Yeah, I mean the league, again, building availability, all of that type of stuff because Florida

would have to submit their dates to see what they're looking like for games three and four. That scenario too, I think it would be Sunday or Monday. I think it would probably be Monday, realistically, because doesn't the league want to have other series finish? Doesn't round two try and start kind of the same? Generally, but there has been some overlapping when it when the other ones are so ahead. Like Washington Carolina, you know, you ostensibly you could start that Saturday night, you know, that gives each team a couple of days off and Washington's at home. It's a short travel. I don't think they'll do

that because I do I do think I'm pretty certain we're gonna have a game seven or two, right? This right and I'm pretty pretty certain of that. And if it's teams on the East Coast, you don't want them to overlap or anything like that. Right. I could see a daytime game this weekend between Carolina and Washington. Yeah, Sunday daytime, Sunday at three o'clock or something like that. I know you hate it, but it's then then you have a game seven because the game seven's got to be prime time.

But I would think you know, you would probably want let's say it's not and then you have a game seven because the game sevens got to be primetime but i would think you know you would probably one of six colorado dallas yeah you know saturday or sunday night you know because you you you've got get a lot of chances tonight to to close out series or to extend series we have four games and all the series are at three two jet so game six for

for example game six for winnipeg and St. Louis is tomorrow night. Game seven is Sunday. So you're right, like I don't know, I realistically think they probably go, okay, we're going to start the second round Monday. That's fine. That makes sense. That's the latest that could go the first round of Sunday night. Right. I like that idea. Don't you? Like just reset everything and start on Monday.

Well, let me look at what would game seven for the Oilers, it would be Saturday if there's an Oilers Kings one. You know, like you're trying to look at the dates of potentially some of this Dallas, Colorado. Game seven would be Saturday. Cool. So. We could have three game sevens what about minnesota vegas saturday may third for you could have four game sevens there's all games all those game sixes are now potentially game sevens in

it on saturday night you're right you could have as many as four series and tonight or four game sevens. Like, you know, end of the spectrum. How do you think they would jockey that for TV? Because, like, tonight you've got the early games are the Leafs and the Vegas series, are seven and 7.30 respectively, and then Dallas, Colorado, L.A. Edmonton are the late night games. Right.

I don't know if you want, you know, you don't want two game sevens at 930 or 10 p.m. Eastern Time. But you might have to do that. I think it would be ridiculous to have a game seven at 105 p.m. on a Saturday. Look, I just think it's stupid. I'm sorry. I hear you. Also the Kentucky Derby on Saturday you're competing with.

Yeah. Which, you know, that's on NBC. You probably have staggered it's probably six thirty and seven thirty and then eight thirty and ten or something like nine thirty and and ten o'clock type of thing you might have to stagger them depending on markets and that again let's deal with that when i was a bridge but it just that could be a scenario for the league

jerry could like gary would love that you know what i don. And owners getting, that's more bread in their pocket. That's another home date for a game seven. But fan bases are like, come on. I think they'd play an afternoon game, Noodles. You think so, eh? I think so. My instinct would tell me it would be Dallas, Colorado, would play like a real clock on the sbn or there would be and it would be on a bc or whatever

uh... i don't even know if that's who's got that game or not but i could see that i could see it you know two p m central and one p m mountain time in colorado you know you do if you do it three o'clock game there and then you got leave sense will be at seven for sure yeah uh... o'clock game there and then you got leafsens would be at seven for sure. Yeah. Unfortunately, Edmonton LA probably would be at ten. It'd be a ten o'clock start because that's a nine o'clock in LA.

Yeah, exactly. And for TV purposes, the Canadian network will clearly want, they don't want the Leafs and the Oilers overlapping if they're both playing game seven. You can't have that. No. So I think, yeah, I mean we're getting carried away here. I can see Dallas, Colorado at 3 PM. Well, the thing is this problem, if we're talking about this 24 hours from now, we know

the times. That's the crazy thing. We'll know the times at 11 o'clock tonight, or actually maybe midnight or whatever after some of these games are done, right? What's your mini-Jerry's that we see four game sevens on saturday i think i'm zero percent zero i'm sorry i i'm really low on this i just think you might see to you might see to i just for for seeing all that it seems rich like i'm sorry

i've but i i have to be consistent everything i've called this year has been wrong like it you know i'd you if you've got a feeling about some now i called bret how did the other day that was a singular that made up for every other long decision for call me but it but but just when you

something's happening you're looking at trends are looking at it how a team play their own building, maybe a response and all that. You go, I could see that happening. And the complete opposite happens. I did not see Florida beating Tampa in five. I did not see Florida winning that game last night 6-3 or whatever it was. I didn't see that one coming. I did see, I could make a case, and I said earlier, like not that I slept

on Florida, it's just I was bullish on Tampa too much. Where I did sleep on Florida in essence, where I was like, how could I not give the benefit of doubt to a team that won last year and is, you know, knock on wood for them, is healthy now. But it just seemed like maybe too much, maybe all of that, but it's come together for them but that being said i'd i'd just i'm still i shouldn't be zero percent but i've in that i know i'm not far off zero yeah i'm not far sir i think it's more likely we get we get zero game sevens that we get four

uh... itis you know you look at toronto vegas in edmonton in particular it feels like like Colorado's, you know, I'd be surprised if Dallas won. That doesn't mean they won't. You know, obviously they're a very good team too and they've clearly got some sort of a formula here on Colorado. And Heiskind is not playing tonight. Robertson, I guess, is day to day, closer to day to day than week to week, but he's still not playing. But that hasn't factored in negatively for Dallas in their three wins.

But the idea of Toronto, Vegas and Edmonton all losing tonight just is not a parlay. I wonder what Vanduul would have those odds at. That would be a high odds. Can Juki cook that up? Yeah, I think we can cook something up to see what all of them would be that we get four game sevens. What's the likelihood on that? Well, that would pay out massive. I think it would pay out massive.

And honestly, like, it's weird. I don't know how you felt about it and how much of the Winnipeg game you watched last night. I liked Hellebuck's game. Statistically, it stunk though. He's 16 for 19, right? So you give up three goals. They gave up a moldy one near the end.

It was a missed assignment by Shannon, you know, comes off the boards. But I didn't love the second goal he allowed against and that made it 2-2 and it kind of made things tense. But I liked his game, I liked his response and I think the team was a lot better in front of him. So as I was telling before, to go hand in hand. But the overarching story, like they won and they looked really good, but Shely's up like that's a massive blow heading into jumping on that bird today heading down there and and knowing yeah there has to be an adjustments and other guys you know last night Nomastikov stepped up but can he do that in a game six in a game seven potentially

where you know Shifely is a physical beast, he's a big guy, he's ultra skilled, all of that, you can do it on short term. I can get it. Within a game you can have a guy elevate in that. Can you continue to ask guys to do that for multiple games? In multiple games that's where your depth gets challenged. But that being said, you know, I do feel good about Winnipeg at least maybe closing this out.

It's not no slight on St. Louis. It's just like, Velarde back was huge. Velarde back was huge, right? Yeah. But, you know, Ehlers being on the trip is sneaky, but the fact that Shifeley didn't fly, and I know there's a lot of concussion, it's not even conspiracy theorists, it's just when you have a concussion it's not good to fly,

and the fact that Schieffle didn't fly down there, maybe it's a concussion, I'm not going to speak out of turn, but I hope he's okay. That's the biggest thing, man. Absolutely. I mean, he's their number one center. He's been there forever, too, right? We talk about the Leafs who have been here for a long time. Shifely's been there for a long, long time and the ups and downs and it's going to be a big miss. There's no question about that. Doogie pumped

in the parlay. Ottawa, Minnesota, Colorado, LA winning tonight plus 1480. So those are big plus odds, but not crazy. Not not crazy and some of these teams are favored tonight Well, it's not like plus five thousand or plus eight. No, it's not something crazy. It's not initially Yeah, and initially did you think that was gonna be a bigger number than plus? I thought possibly just you know, the idea of connecting on for a four-game parlay is tough Especially when you're dealing with you know Some these these teams that are up against the wall and they might be there for a reason.

I think Toronto is a better team than Ottawa. I think Vegas is better than Minnesota. I think Edmonton is better than LA, so you're going up against it. Dallas and Colorado are coin flip. But we'll see what comes of it as of tonight, like you mentioned. All right, we'll get to Pierre Lebrun in about twenty minutes jonah seagull coming up from the building again tonight we sense right here at us already will get to our best bets powered by fando

and the l a lakers are out and the three ring circus of lebron lucca jay-jay reddick is just it's very hollywood but uh... anthony edwards and really go barren company they were in there to smack the lakers around Yeah, and now you got to wonder where is LeBron gonna go? Where is Luke are gonna take this we'll get into that the Jays with a big big comeback win last night it was six nothing at one point six and nothing going into the sixth inning last night and

All of a sudden Santander with a big home run Kirk with a big home run and Kirk walks him off in the tent That was much needed. So we'll touch on that as well. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. Big news here when it comes to the Kentucky Derby. We had our world famous segment, Pucks and Ponies, with Eddie Olchuk yesterday. And Eddie was basically waiting for a horse to get pulled out of the Derby.

And this just came across the wire that Bob Baffert, your boy Bob Baffert, has big hair. I guess he has a horse named Rodriguez that will be scratched. So he's out and Eddie O's horse, the 21 horses into the derby. You know what? I'm telling you, he's like an insider. He knew that was coming coming but he probably couldn't that information he's like keep an eye on if this horse ends up in the race magically right well of course like that horse is in the horse I think it's Beza is the name of the horse Eddie Olchuk you

know he's he's got Bob Baffert on speed dial man he talked to Bob Baffert whenever he wants to and Eddie Olchuk with a great call Alright, so the Lakers are out It's always a circus with the Lakers, you know, there's certain teams the Leafs the Lakers the Yankees the Cowboys You know, they're just the brands are so big the media attention is so massive and when you attach LeBron James and the trade of the century Luca Donchich and then JJ Reddick and his whole approach because JJ Ruffles feathers right because he's he's got his approach a little bit arrogant at times. He's very very Self-assured which I'm fine with. Yeah, he was a very good player and he knows the game

He's a really smart basketball mind but he he he kinda gives it to people at times and i think goes against them like that the knives come out right it's like that's the way it works and look at bill belichick is getting ridiculed now

and so many people are waiting for bill to let his guard down so they could they could go out yeah reddick i think it's similar. Different approach, but similar in ways. So they lose, they're out. And LeBron James is asked about the lack of size, which was really exposed. I mean, Minnesota just completely destroyed. Rudy Gubera had 24 rebounds last night.

Here is LeBron, his response to what happened, the way he was asked to play, and it's led to a lot of people analyzing, and I'm curious how you feel about this. This is LeBron post-game last night. Yeah. LeBron, basically from mid-January on, right when AD got injured, you guys started playing a lot of centerless basketball and that required a lot from you and dough and Rui and then Vando once he got back just from a physical like taxing standpoint how how tough was that look for the last three and a half months to play that style and do you feel like that caught up at all in this series? No comment. I'll never say that.

Because my guy AD said what he needed and then he was gone the following week. So I got no comment. I put that uniform on every night. I gave everything I had and that's all that matters. Alright, there's LeBron man. It's so, like, it's so, I don't know. Like I did my eye drop, like he just like... Yeah, go talk to the front office.

Yeah, they're the reason we're out in five. Yeah, I don't know. And that's the thing about LeBron is he brings it upon himself You know where it's finger-pointing and it's it's everyone else and listen. I think you got to be Reasonable here. The guy is 40 years old the fact that he's still playing at the level. He's playing is remarkable It's incredible But the more you play if you're playing your resume is going to continue To develop and he's 2 and 12 in his last 14 playoff games as a Laker.

And what is happening now, because he finally went to the Western conference, you know, with the Lakers, outside of that bubble COVID year, which is always going to be looked upon differently. It just is. As a lot of people looking at Le broadest funny and said well you know maybe if he was a if he's in the western conferences whole career might be different and look what he's going up against now and i'm not sure how to marry the two because again he's not he's not his

prime and he hasn't been in his primarily since he arrived in l a he's losing he loses a lot the playoffs yes lucid in help on the reddit didn't help on but many good on a five in the first. And Luca didn't help him and Redick didn't help him. But man, you go down in five in the first round. That's tough for an all-time great. You know what it is? You said the longer you extend your career, it can help or hurt you. Now it's starting to tarnish him a little bit because in the end, when we always talk about Marty Bredure near the end of his career.

He's in St. Louis and he's making skate saves and people are like, what's going on here? And it doesn't look that good. Eventually when the wheels fall off LeBron, people are going to be quoting these stats and going, easy. And now all of a sudden it takes the shine away from what he did in his whole body of work. And people go, well Jordan is absolutely better because he did it in a shorter amount of time and more you know that type of stuff that again that's my opinion but it just it seems that more of a body of work doesn't always equate more success it could actually

add more losses and stuff to your statistical analysis of your whole career and that's what's happening right like the end of his career is now he's witnessing you know losses the the brawny James story you know is attached to him and the handling of it all now he's got Luca he had Anthony Davis like it and I don't think he's going anywhere I think he's he's gonna come back next year and I wouldn't be shocked if he's back for a couple more years in LA and they they're they're in tough in the West man they are in tough in the West all right final hour coming up. Pierre LeBrun will join us.

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