OverDrive - OverDrive - May 16, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' search to bounce back in Game 6 against the Panthers, Auston Matthews and Mitch Marner cont...inuing to play on the same line and the winning formula against Florida. Got Yer' Back Podcast Host and Former NHLer Jason Strudwick joins to discuss the Oilers back in the Western Conference Final, the mentality of the team, the Maple Leafs facing elimination and the second round of the PGA Championship.

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Starting point is 00:00:59 What's going on today? Lots going on. Lots going on today. Yeah? Oh, yeah. Lots going on. Lots going on today. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Hazy, you're out of luck because today's the day that doogie turn the page and he's revved up for game six. And we went triple facts without you.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Wow. That means you're gonna have your a game that that excites me because that means you're gonna be on fire And we got a lot to get to today. We're rolling into a long weekend This is exactly how people want to start their long weekend. You see the news that broke an hour ago There's cows loose on the 400 literally cows walking around the 400 northbound in Aurora Which it's already gonna take you about four hours to get north dude to get to Aurora yeah to get to Aurora might take an hour and a half two hours
Starting point is 00:01:50 you know from downtown it might take you two two and a half hours anything beyond that like you imagine that you're thinking what is going on up there man this is crazy what's happening and there's cows loose on the highway where you're trying to get out of town. So we got that going on. Yeah, there it is. Very comforting. Like, whose cows are those? Figure it out.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Did they come off of somebody's truck or did they just run out of somebody's farm along the 400 there? Probably just walked on there probably. I gotta think truck, man. I don't know. I've been driving up and down that highway a lot throughout my life.
Starting point is 00:02:22 I've never seen something like that. Well, where's the truck? They don't just fall out. The truck keeps driving. It's probably parked. It's probably like the traffic's crazy. Anyway, maybe one of them found a way to unlock the thing. They said, let's get out of here long weekend. Let's get crazy. The Leafs are playing tonight. So anyway, that if you're on your way northbound, good luck with that. Because because you know, there's barnyard animals cruising around the 400 But yeah, we got the long weekend. We got the lease tonight and I don't know man. It's a weird It's weird that they're playing tonight. I think it feels like you know yesterday. It was as if they what's weird about it though
Starting point is 00:03:02 Well yesterday the way they played game five felt like the end of the season it was so bad and such an awful performance and You know, I said it this morning. It feels like they're down. Oh three in this series They're not now I think in some ways it feels that way because Florida's won three games in a row and Florida continues to get more and more powerful and the Leafs continue to kind of get weaker and weaker but they're they're halfway home to the conference final. Now I always talk about these psychological you know mind games you play if you go to game six someone's got to be losing
Starting point is 00:03:36 3-2 it happens to be the Leafs and they're playing tonight and I just don't get the sense that anyone's prepared for a massive playoff game tonight i hope the players are they're not prepared for a massive playoff game or are they not prepared for the maple leaves to come out like gangbusters i'm i've had enough of and i'm not going to do it today i'm not doing it tonight
Starting point is 00:04:03 because the the the big question is every sports center. It's like, is today the day that Austin Matthews and Mitch Marner steps up? I've almost kind of moved past that where I'm looking for a Matthew Nice game, a William Nylander game, Morgan Riley, possibly the goaltender stealing one, one going off of Max Domi's ass in front of the net. I'm almost like move, but you know how coaches move past players. You're in a golf match and your partner's junk. You just move past him.
Starting point is 00:04:29 You're like, I gotta do this on my, I moved past it. Like there's, it would almost be a bonus if those two guys contributed to a winning effort tonight. Do you not think? I feel very similarly, yet the head coach does not. Now I don't know if he's forcing himself into this but Barubei sticking with the two of them playing together Matthew Nyes on on their line and Why don't we why don't we play the clip because you knew it was coming, right?
Starting point is 00:04:54 Like everyone was waiting for them to be separated in game five. Maybe before that and This is what Barubei had to say on the reasoning for keeping the top line together this evening It's always a consideration. I think you know I've split him up this year at times and I Never felt that it really did anything to be honest with you You know these guys have been a combo for a long time and they've had a lot of success. So I trust them. I trust in them. I believe in them. They've had a lot of success but they've never had playoff success. That is an inaccurate statement in the playoffs. Yeah, but it's also fair for him to say, listen, these are the guys that got you there and it's not like everybody else played great and those two didn't I think you just
Starting point is 00:05:51 Like last game was a tape burner and you'd go doesn't matter Go play again. Like he's I think chiefs passed the point of X's and O's He's saying get out of your own head and go play. Like that's, you know, that's the message I've gotten from, you know, listening to him talk and that it seems like he's had a little one on ones with guys and all that. It's just relax and play, go play. Because last game, the Leafs looked like they were thinking the game, they looked paralyzed. And they looked like they were second on everything. Tonight, have speed, go play on your toes,
Starting point is 00:06:25 be aggressive, and see what happens. I think it's gonna be a tight game tonight, I really do. I think it's gonna be a hard fought, one goal game type of thing. I'm not gonna predict a winner, but I'm gonna think it's gonna be a good game. And a hard fought one. You would like to thank, Jamie,
Starting point is 00:06:38 that I use this term a lot when it comes to situations like this, regardless if it's the World Juniors or the Stanley Cup Fin finals with two different teams. It's very simple play according to the situation, you have to scratch and claw. And if you're going to go down, which is just another thing I've kind of moved past, you got to go down swinging and you got to take a chunk out of them. And it's just not going to be this is going to be the you would think that they would
Starting point is 00:07:02 be saying we have to make this the hardest game the Florida Panthers Have ever played in but they have gone to the cup final two years in a row So that's not gonna be true, but you got to try Yeah, ultimately that has to be a bare minimum Expectation tonight if you're Craig Barube and you know, listen, I think you make a good point noodles. It wasn't just them It's that they have higher expectations. They're capable of more. I agree 100%.
Starting point is 00:07:27 I'm not absolving them. No, I know what you're saying. And I think from Barube's standpoint, it's like, okay, I guess we're just going to try to 100% wash it out. Although he's taken Robertson and Camp out of the lineup. So those two, you had your chance, it didn't work, and you're done. And Holmberg and Yarncroke appear to be going back in But I do think there's a third element to this line in this decision that is important
Starting point is 00:07:52 that's Matthew Nyes and I think Borube looks at Nyes and has belief in him and belief that he will show up and fight tonight and Maybe it's not just about Matthews and Marner. It's about the third guy playing a role in dragging them into that fight and that playing some sort of a role in all of this uh... i'd i would have liked to have seen it change but again that's not his style that's not the way berube generally operates and it is three two in the series you're not down on three i know but i get this reason why i like that there's been feeding off of each other's negativity that's what's weird about yeah and it's like that drowning
Starting point is 00:08:28 out there together it's like throw one of them a lifeline and get the hell out of there who knows but the other guy in this equation is Tavares had a couple goals and what was it game three yep he is not an incense yeah there's been a lot of blending a lot of landing like this so he is mixed in there too but i would not start this game with those two together just for the simple fact if they don't show up in it's the same nonsense is the last game it would be like how could you can to
Starting point is 00:08:56 how did you think that that was going to change well that's berube in a way putting himself on the line right because he said afterwards we all gotta be better myself included. Well, his moves as of now are Yarncrook and Holmberg coming back in. So, okay, you're not gonna change it up. You're gonna believe in consistency, okay? But now he's putting himself out there, right?
Starting point is 00:09:17 The coach is putting himself out there and he's gonna trust these guys. And listen, when you're in a do or die, all you focus on clearly is the game and getting out of the game, but if you do allow for the Lens to be pulled back a little bit, if they're gonna win tonight, and then if they're gonna win game seven,
Starting point is 00:09:35 and if they're gonna go on a run, at some point those two guys have to be phenomenal. Like you have to trust that, right, Noodle? Like almost by fault, you're're like I have to trust it Because you can't you know using golf analogies You can't show up at a US Open and say I'm taking my driver out of the bag You have to hit it unless you're Phil unless you're you have to hit it at some point You have to rely on them to have big performances
Starting point is 00:09:58 I think you know you're at a point here where it's sink or swim with the guys that got you there. And that's the way you look at it. And instead of going, oh, I'm going to hide you here and I'm going to put you here and add a guy to get you going. It's like you're big boys, go play and go play to your capabilities and see how it unfolds. To me, I think instead of skirting around the issue and plugging this and maybe this can happen. It's like, you guys haven't played good enough, go play better. I think we're overthinking it. I think Greg Berube is just dumbing it down going, if you guys play better, I think we have a good chance. That's really what he's saying.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I take it out of that. Maybe I'm wrong, but... No, I think that's reasonable. I think that's reasonable. Listen, the other night, the game is what it is. It's over now. You know, like we said, you lose 6-1 or you lose 1-0 in triple overtime. It's over, you're down 3-2.
Starting point is 00:10:52 You got to reset. And you know, you guys asked, you know, me and collectively we all tried to come up with reasons as to why, you know, the Leafs can or will win tonight. And I had a difficult time narrowing down a five pack because I- Did you even write it with a straight face? Well, I went over it last night. I'm watching the Jets play.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Shout out to the Jets. They played great last night. Great job, Jets. Great job by Winnipeg. We'll get to that momentarily. And I'm trying to come up with different reasons. And there's a number of like legitimate hockey analysis reasons, but honestly, a few of them are just
Starting point is 00:11:29 intangible things that I think you have to take into consideration. So let me throw a couple out here. You guys tell me if you're buying it or you tell me if, okay, I could see this happening. Pride is a big part of it. Like you can't go out the way you just went out. You just got destroyed on home ice. Everyone in the league is looking at you. Brad Marchand had quotes today again that I think are completely disingenuous and he's
Starting point is 00:11:56 trolling. I've always believed when he's complimenting the Leafs about how different they are, he's always doing it with a smirk. I think he did it again today. We'll play that. But if you're the Leafs and these guys are pumping you and everyone's doubting you and everyone's kind of laughing at like, don't you have to show up and have a killer instinct tonight? Like, don't you have to perform better and put yourself in a position to win to redeem yourself? Doesn't mean you win game seven. It's really tough to even listen to you say that I'm trying because trying because you know how many times the truth that I've heard
Starting point is 00:12:30 you when we play that stupid music on the Funeral show that we've done for nine straight years where you're like wouldn't you think this is how you always started wouldn't you think? With pride on the line and everything that was at stake last night they would show up and play according to the situation and then you finished the con the question with and they didn't know I know I know that and maybe I will say that after tonight but let me play the Marchant clip and you guys you guys you will you be the interpreters here because I'm very cynical I'm not as cynical as you are i heard it was a reasonable right here's a motion earlier today it wasn't that one-sided
Starting point is 00:13:09 we look at it you obviously we got a couple of houses in the end i can dictate the outcome uh... but i mean they are a lot of twos that uh... i said the bouts are huge they play a huge component of uh... of the playoffs and then we got more than they did last year you know they had a breakaway early they had a posterly one of component of the playoffs and we got more than they did last game. They had a breakaway early, they had a post early when it was 1-0. Things like that change the course of a game and it just kind of got away from them a little
Starting point is 00:13:34 bit. But I don't think that the score was really an indication of how the game was played and how close it actually was. It doesn't matter anyway. It has no impact on the game tonight. If anything, it's going to make them hungrier to have a bounce back game and to prove a lot of people wrong, which is a very dangerous combination. All right, you guys go ahead.
Starting point is 00:14:01 I'm not saying anything. You guys go ahead. Okay, so I also followed up with Paul Maurice saying if you look at it the chances were The high danger chances the other night were 1816 So I mean Paul Maurice pointed to that saying the only outlier is far as that is trying to not let your Florida Panthers heads get too big That was a fair ass beating and that wasn an act that i there that guy there would text his friends on the way on the bus on the way the airport and say
Starting point is 00:14:28 did you see that as beating we just put on the maple leaves and then he has the audacity to talk like a coach for the bruins have on just throw one on well i'm a panthers out despite it is the is he wrong with what he said this is a dangerous team to talk i would think so and i just try to make that point and you guys laughed at me. I didn't laugh at you. I didn't get to chime in yet.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Okay, you go ahead. You go ahead. I think you used the word pride. I would use the word character. It's the same thing, right? Like let's see what your character is after guys are laughing on the ice and it's 6-1 and the fans are pissed and booing you in your own building and that. Like I was tongue in tongue-in-cheek
Starting point is 00:15:06 The other night with a buddy going they should have gone on the bird the second after the game and going we're going to Florida tonight and To flush your head and to get down there and relax and and and try and get this game out of your system You know listen there was it was awful the other night to a man They played awful the score was lopsided. But they did hit a post. They did have breakaways. They did have stuff that could have changed the game and maybe got their juice going.
Starting point is 00:15:34 That's... I get it from a... When you're in the lead, Paul Maurice is going, hey, I'm trying to keep my team hungry, all of that type of stuff. Marchand is just different. It's because it's the character. If that was Barkov saying that, you might believe it. It's just you're tainted because it's Brad Marshann talking. That's really what it is. It's almost like he was using standard playoff lines that you would say against his former
Starting point is 00:15:57 team the Boston Bruins or the Tampa Bay Lightning. But it was almost like just by looking at him he was saying things just like standard playoff type lines knowing that it wasn't truthful you know what I mean like they're going to be fired up and they're going to be hungrier and it was like really are they he knows them better than any opponent on earth like nobody knows them better than Brad Marschall dude if he if they get punted tonight that's five punts for him. Five. Five. It would be four and oh in the Matthews Marner era. Four times in nine years, Brad Marshann will be handing out respect in the handshake line.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I see what you're saying. Listen, I don't disagree with the angle, but I also do believe there is truth in that angle. I do believe that they should be pissed and come out hard and all of that type of stuff that we've been laying out. I think pride is a pride slash character is a huge factor tonight. And what else he said there was, you know, basically sports don't always make sense. You know, bounces something bounces this way or that way. That is one thing, you know, at times in the past we've, you've looked at, you're like,
Starting point is 00:17:07 man, they lost two, two, one, three, two. How did they not get that bounce? How did that one not go in? How did that go out of the post? You know, maybe you can marry the two again. It feels like we're reaching, but ultimately if you're being objective and you're not talking about the Leafs, that would be the process that you would look at you'd say, okay This team is gonna have a bounce back. This team is too good. This team is too veteran, which they are
Starting point is 00:17:30 They're not a bunch of kids that don't know what they're doing And you know bounces maybe they break your way tonight And then all of a sudden you're up early in the game because it goes off a skating in well And all of a sudden the pressures on Florida because that's something that's flipped, right? Like when it was two, nothing leaves and then got to a point where everything started flipping the other way when it's two, two, three, two. Now it's like Florida's Florida's expected to win pressures on them.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Will they take their foot off the gas? Seems hard to believe because of the way they're wired, but we just saw it in a cup final. They're up three, nothing. They took their foot off the gas and Edmonton made them pay. Yeah I mean you could argue too that Bobrowski stole a game, game two and you know there was like there were swing games it probably shouldn't have been three nothing it probably should have been two ones. I think he arguably stole game one too. Yeah I think so. You're right in the cup final. You're right But the point I'm making is they got they got smoked in Edmonton like a game four and five I believe gave six was like eight nothing wasn't it like they got smoked it. Yeah, I to eight one Hey, yeah, it doesn't matter what happened last year in the cup final
Starting point is 00:18:39 The point is Florida like they get built up by myself and others as this like perfect Drago like machine. They're not they're humans. You know, you got to force them into being uncomfortable tonight. But they're champions and they know how to play. And that's the biggest thing. Like that's the that's the thing that the Leafs you know what, what I always think of it about in these last three games, what Vasilevsky said, said those guys play the exact same way. And then they create their own chances to create their own puck luck to create their own bounces and in games one and two the Leafs were creating their own bounces creating their own
Starting point is 00:19:12 luck creating all because they were playing a certain way and Jamie to your point they are the champions and they do play a perfect game and they do this and do that but no matter how good you are or what style you play the Washington Capitals had a great system in a great style all year long and they just got crushed by the Carolina Hurricanes they found a way to make them uncomfortable and they just couldn't do squat that was embarrassing what happened to them. No matter how good your team is you could do something to make them think oh god what we do is not good right now we have some
Starting point is 00:19:43 trouble so it's on the leaf to do that, very simple. Agreed. Did you hear Carberry's comments? Like, did you watch his press conference? All he did was said, like, that team is unbelievable. They work hard. They wear you down. Like, he gave full credit.
Starting point is 00:19:58 He said, listen, they deserve to beat us. Like, in watching them. And even Rod's comments after, he said, we don't have an Ovechkin. We don't have superstars. He's like we got great players that work hard and work within a system and they deserved it. Like it was a moldy goal that got it done. I still don't know where it went. The replays you still can't figure out where it went. If it went five hole or far side. But Carolina put him to bed last night Listen Carolina in a conference final after playing only ten games is mighty impressive Very impressive and really impressive man. They've played ten games and they're in the conference final waiting
Starting point is 00:20:37 yeah, and they do feel like a like a I wouldn't say a sleeping giant, but You know we we haven't I don't think a lot of people in the hockey world have been paying much attention to it because it's Carolina, Jersey, Carolina, Washington. They got off so quick and there's all these other stories, especially up here in Canada when you've got the Leafs and Winnipeg and Edmonton playing. It's just different. It hasn't been at the forefront of a lot of the hockey conversations because again, it hasn't been like suspensions and
Starting point is 00:21:05 all this craziness it's just been them playing the exact same way you expect them to play and just cruising man. Ten games is wild man. Four one four one and they're in the conference final. They deserve it. Yep. Full credit to Carolina and again the whole ranting and thing like they were taking a lot of heat for the way all that played out like they have
Starting point is 00:21:25 Completely overcome that and obviously they had to move on and I give them credit because they clearly saw something there Like we got to move we got we got to get this out and we have we have we're it's not going to adjust Well, we believe we can still do and they pulled that off, which is incredible. Yeah Alright, we've got strutty coming up. Jason Strud will join us. We know the Oilers are into the next round but they're waiting to see who they're gonna play that was big for them last night that Winnipeg beat Dallas so you get more time for Ekholm who will not play the first couple of games. Pickard who I don't believe will be available to open their series but will be available at some point likely in the third round so
Starting point is 00:22:03 we'll catch up with Strud on life in Edmonton what he makes of the Maple Leaf Panther game tonight And we're gonna do a number of things with strut We also got to get the rest of your lifts. Well, we got one. I know I have more That's the thing I have sorry I have more but we started throwing playing clips Before we go to break one of my good friends at the golf course, he piggybacked. You know when you carved our Carolina team the other day and you forgot that I was on it?
Starting point is 00:22:31 The guy that I golf with for 10 years every Friday said to me going down the second hole, he goes, the whole time Matt Sundeen played in Toronto, he didn't have a winger that was worth squat. And then he looked at me and he goes, did you ever play with Sundeen? And I said yes and he just he was like wow you were kind of okay and then we just I just drove on to the fairway and it was forgotten that's like that's why you gotta flush it you gotta flush it twice into yeah that team in Carolina was garbage oh I was on that team and then he came back over the
Starting point is 00:23:03 top today with that one I was like yeah yeah, I guess it is what it is Yeah, listen, I'm just telling you the viewpoint of people in Toronto were bring on Carolina You know too and you guys stopped them you guys found a way to stop them This is this is one thing we do have to guard ourselves against everyone just thinks the winner of this series is going to the Cop. Well, that's what we're saying. Carolina is waiting for you man. Carolina is waiting for you. And they absolutely could be in a Cup final. Alright, Strudy coming up.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I've got to complete the list on how the Leafs can win tonight. Alright, we'll get to that. Duffy coming up. Dear Hazy B in a couple of hours. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050N on TSN2. Hazy B, I'm not exactly on TSI Miami, but if I could make one observation, you caught some rays today and you had glasses on.
Starting point is 00:24:00 You had glasses on, didn't you? I don't wear glasses. I do not. I don't do the glasses because I don't want to have the Charlie Hoffman look. Did you go no bucket? No I had a helmet on man. I was out there with a bucket on but it was so beautiful and hot and sunny like shorts guy was everywhere today. Shorts guy is back like I'm not my pants are done. You're finished. Yeah I I'm done with long pants. Yeah, I appreciate that I appreciate that. I mean, I don't know what the weather forecast is moving forward We're still only in mid-may it can still be a little bit unpredictable But I love that guy like golf guy. I got a buddy
Starting point is 00:24:36 That will not wear pants to golf Like I'm talking like borderline snowing and he's got shorts got shorts yes like it'll be you know on november third and of the season round where there's a frost delay in its four degrees in this guy's got shorts on yeah i don't understand that mentality like just i get it pants are not great especially god just put pants on that throw on some pants but uh... that's that's not my style man i i I will rock a short, but I don't wear
Starting point is 00:25:07 a sunglass. Like, sunglass is in the sun. You get a bad sunglasses tan line or sunburn, it looks so stupid. Dude, you get Stuart Sinkhead, man. You ever seen that guy without a hat on? That was who I was about to reference. I said Charlie Hoffman. Stewart Sink is wild, his head. From just over his eyeballs is golden brown? Doogie, try to find a pic of Stewart Sink with no bucket on and the rest of his hat, he's got no hair. It's straight white. Yeah. Really? It's noodles. You got to see this guy's dome Like we need that we need like his wife must dread when he says honey. You want to go out for dinner?
Starting point is 00:25:51 Because this guy looks like a donkey with no golf hat on it's a crazy because there you got to wear hats like they're all sponsorship and safety All that but any guy like Stewart's think is the best example because he's been bald forever Basically and every time on 18. He takes his hat off to shake hands. It's like he has two faces It's like Harvey two-face on tour. It's crazy We gotta find that do you find a picture of Stewart sink no helmet on 18? I've got I'm looking at one right now where it's like tan and then white yeah crazy with
Starting point is 00:26:30 a dead straight line look at that's not even that was not good enough that one's that one's too shiny and he's got white on white there is better ones where his face is brown in his his dome is white there's one on golf.com on Instagram that is ridiculous. I think it's been like AI adjusted or something. Possibly. There could be some exaggerating online. Like when they do the Florida swing and this guy is, it's 32 degrees and sunny all day.
Starting point is 00:26:59 It's a wild, wild scene. Yeah, there he is. Look at that. Don't look at that guy. Well, imagine honey. let's go for some nice that's that's obvious no i'm just it that is not that is i don't think so it's not new that's that guy's head dot
Starting point is 00:27:15 that's the one i was pointing to say somebody's messed with our knowledge of that way steward sinkers that is still it's the way his wife was a groin injuries to go out for dinner. She is not going out with that guy for dinner. That guy, he looks like he's from a different planet. That's the kind of thing you would expect to walk out of a spaceship. You would imagine if that guy was single and he wheeled up at just a swim up bar and said
Starting point is 00:27:43 you come here often with that head? He does have. No way, man. There's another picture on there that is actually, so it might be true because there's another picture that has that definitive line. Yes. I've seen it. I've seen it.
Starting point is 00:27:59 I've watched it. I've experienced it. Wow. That's Stuart Sink. That one. Yeah, look at this guy. It's like a ruler. That is ridiculous. Oh, man. still that like yeah, it's like a ruler That is ridiculous, oh man, okay Anyway, here's a guy that never has to worry about that tan lines are perfect across the board. Here's Jason Strudwick
Starting point is 00:28:16 How are we doing strutty? How am I doing? How are you guys doing? I can feel the intensity all the way from here. Oh man. Shut up, Strudy. What's going on? What's going on? Strudy, we are a solution-based program here. We want to know what we're going to do to get the positive mojo back flowing for Least Nation.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Talk to us, Goose. Man, I don't know. I guess you're not playing the Defending Stanley Cup Champions. They don't know what this moment's like. So that'll be one check mark against you. But listen, I'm not here to rip on the leaf. Last game to me, they accepted defeat. That's what I saw. They just said, you could tell they were nervous after the first period, they're down one-nothing. Did anyone talk in that room? Did anyone light a fire underneath them, get them going? You know, they accepted it. They just accepted for most part the whole game losing so it can't it can't happen that again
Starting point is 00:29:10 You got to talk about it. I'm sure someone brought it up Craig Ruby made one of the veteran guys Talked about it. But you know, it's like you just you know You can do as I used to go to the casino when you're playing blackjack and you have a tie and they don't want to take The even money I'm like, I always say to them, I'd rather die on my feet than on my knees. And the Leafs just were on their knees, just accepting defeat. So they can't let that happen again. I think after 48 hours of thinking about it, I expect them to come out and compete and push back. Because if they do that again, it's over. I mean, it's not even a chance. No, and that was one of the things we mentioned earlier,
Starting point is 00:29:47 like the intangibles, the fact that you've got to have some character, you got to have some pride, you got to show up. And then even then it may not be enough, but it's certainly at least you're in the fight. And you mentioned Florida and everyone accepts what they are and what they're likely going to be like tonight and how prepared they're going to be for this game. In terms of the Maple Leafs and their best players, there's been a lot of discussion about their best players and the way that they performed on Wednesday night. What is reasonable from your perspective, Stradi? Like Matthews and Marner in particular, you're going into a game
Starting point is 00:30:21 tonight, you're watching it in Edmonton, Oilers are in the third round, it's all good. What are you really thinking you're gonna see out of those two players this evening? Well listen, there's a lot of being made about the top guys not getting it done. I know I can over across that Jason's old door saying hey, let's whatever number of minutes make a difference. But what you can't or you got to get us over the top. But what you can do is you can all make a difference. All make a difference.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Look at the goal scores for Florida the other night. You know, there was a lot of first goals in there and I know that what you know few guys probably have AJ Greer's rookie card hoping that skyrockets in value But he's not gonna known goal scorer Kulikov who else was it a couple other guys had their first goals of the whole whole time So Boquist there's another guy so they're supporting cast contributed And so you have to find a way even if you're an eight minute 12 minute 14 15 minute guy You've got to bring it and support those guys. And then you can hopefully launch them into the next level
Starting point is 00:31:28 where they can go off and have a point or two. Because they're also mashed up against really good players. You know what, there's a lot of good players on Florida. So I think the supporting cast, by challenging Matthews and Marner all the time, I think we are losing the narrative that the supporting cast didn't do it last game. No one did it, no one gotarner all the time. I think we are losing the narrative that the supporting cast didn't do it last game. No one did it. No one got not on the board. So I think both
Starting point is 00:31:49 groups are responsible for doing it. And there's a lot more supporting cast. They can push harder. Can Marner Matthews be better? For sure. Yeah, I think for sure they can get to the net a little bit harder and all that stuff. But it's going to take everybody. The other night, Doan is one, Kaepernick scored the win and go Kaepernick. I think he was a leaf at one time. No one thought he was going to score and he wasn't even supposed to play. He plays, contributes. That's how it works. Everyone's got to be a part of it. So Struddy, when you look at it, you know, the Maple Leafs I think had it just a terrible game, you know, start to finish and you mentioned nobody was pulling on the rope.
Starting point is 00:32:26 But if you're in that room and you feel like you're nervous a little bit, you feel like there's a little bit of paralysis instead of just relaxing and playing, what needs to be done? Is it your leaders? Is it your goal-tender? Is it your coach? Is it a combination of everything? Because you're right.
Starting point is 00:32:44 I think to a man, everybody just looked like they were thinking instead of reacting. Is it just getting to the net? Is it getting pucks to the net? It's not fighting. I don't think fighting is anything, but is it playing whistle to whistle? What would you say, maybe one or two things that could help to have them success tonight in game six?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Well, two things. So, number one, I hate it when people come to the blue paint because I'm like, oh man, this is gonna be a hard night. And you know, a guy like Chris Jury was really good at it. You're just constantly going to the net and I now have to fight you off around the net. There's rebounds or shots, it's just really chaotic. When you stay at a distance or, you know, I'm thinking of the one play where Matthews walked from behind the net and I think he had two shots in Bobrowski. Bobrowski was square and it just hit him twice. You know could he have taken that puck instead of shooting right away? Could he have maybe driven the back post? Yes he would have been hit. Someone would have hit him but you know what it's
Starting point is 00:33:38 just chaos because now there's bodies flying all over the place. Maybe Bobrowski isn't quite as square or as set and there's a rebound there to make it happen. And I would like to see them make it uncomfortable on the goalie by driving the far post. As a demon, I hated when guys would walk and then instead of shooting right away, just take it in front of goal and go past them. Cause now it's just chaos and I got to react
Starting point is 00:34:00 and there's other people coming in. So that's something I think that it can do to make Bobrowski uncomfortable. I'd also love to see one of the big guys do something special. It doesn't mean a goal. You know, what would it mean if Matthews is able to just unload on someone took a run at someone the first shift and you think back to the winners game. Another night, Connor McDavid back checked.
Starting point is 00:34:20 I think he was somewhere in the North Saskatchewan River. He was so far behind and he caught all the way up and broke that pass up crash into the net. When you're on the bench and you see your best player doing that, I can tell you, you know, it gets you so excited and so, I mean, I want to contribute, I want to be a part of it. So if you're the best player or the one of the best players on the team, you know, maybe it's hard for you to score a goal. Doesn't mean you can't still affect the game in some way and be a Difference maker so that other players are inspired to do what you're doing Which is giving it everything you got and you know, like I said at the beginning don't accept defeat
Starting point is 00:34:55 Don't accept that we're gonna lose this game. Don't have your head down on the bench. Don't look sad Show that you're a leader and looking down the same. I'm doing everything I can. I might not be the one scoring tonight But I'm gonna give everything I can everybody else better do the same thing Rod you ever fire up the boys at the Spangler in between periods and say something meaningful that worked Yeah, just keep playing me Pat Quinn those but all I have keep throwing strutty over the bench. That's all you need. I played with Mark Messia and he was getting near the end of his career, but he always felt better when he was on the bench because he might throw a check, he might say something
Starting point is 00:35:37 not like a whole let's win one for the Gipper here, but he just felt better when he was on the bench and he was going to do something and try to create something or whether it was offense or hitting or a good defensive play and you follow your leaders. You look around that room like look at the guys on the bottom six or forwards they're looking for someone to do something they want to be inspired they want to follow. I didn't see anyone do anything inspirational the other day, you know, I'm fair to pick on it, but Matthew's the turnovers on the first goal. The third one, Marner's backhand pass, you know, you'll see that at Ogo Pogo Arena, whatever that rink is called, you know, at men's night, a guy just shows a backhand pass hoping it hit someone. That's uninspiring me. That's frustrating me as a teammate.
Starting point is 00:36:23 We just have to clarify it's a total call not all global the total tell me say it with me it's a perfect at all the time but i don't know what they're going to expect mentally anyway and people understand we get out of the service of the people who go back to the center of the uh... I don't think there is an Etobicoke community center either, or hockey rink for that matter.
Starting point is 00:36:46 Capolo. Yeah, with Jason Strudwick. So Strud, what is the deal with McDavid? The other night, they go into Vegas, they win an overtime, and he's bent out of shape about Skinner and how people- He hates that one guy talking about defending. The one guy bothered him so much. Whoever asked him that question, he wanted to scissor kick him in the face.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah, what's his deal? Does he not realize that they're halfway home to the Stanley Cup or is that just not enough for him? Well, to me, he was madder after a serious clinching win than Matthews and his buddies were after a loss, which is crazy to me he was he was angry you know he was mad about the Skinner comment he was also asked about you know what is it like for this team to finally play a defensive game and winning it he's like we've been doing that that's why do people keep asking
Starting point is 00:37:35 this we've done this before you know and it's I I like it I like a fiery Conor Mcdavid because again the teammates are listening right other teams are listening and they're not satisfied or not i mean i probably would have gone out to beget but they're probably not going out after a big win having a good time so uh... i think he is singularly focused on winning the stanley cup and nothing else matters i don't think he cares about any other serious went
Starting point is 00:38:00 they're important to get done but i don't think they can't get anything were celebrated going to celebrate the left a cup with eight more wins. Yeah, and I can appreciate that. I mean, that's a great mentality to have, and I think it speaks to what you were just talking about, like the leaders are going to lead and kind of set the tone. If that's his mentality, that's his approach. Everyone else is going to fall in line.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Do you have a rooting interest in terms of it favoring the Oilers? Would it be Dallas Winnipeg? Who do you think they would prefer to play in the next round? You know, I think to the best thing can happen for the winners is this going to game 7 this series. I mean Winnipeg last night Hellebuck, you know, I didn't think it'd be incredible. He was good And and Dallas is a good team. So I think the longer that series goes, that's the best. I think both are good teams. I really do. And you know, maybe Winnipeg, if they're able to win the series, they get more confidence, right? And the goalie gets a lot more confidence, which is crazy to talk about Hellebuck like that. But if I had to pick after going seven games, I would choose Winnipeg
Starting point is 00:39:06 to play if I was the winners. I think Dallas has gotten the depth. Highscanin back now. He's a good goalie. So that's the team I would probably roll with. But if you're the winners, their game's looking pretty good, right? Skinner's coming back in. They're getting scoring from all over the lineup. I think my concern for them right now is their power play, which is I can't believe that's what I'm worried about, but their power plays, you know, hasn't been great. And specifically last game, they're really stagnant guys. So they have some time here. They're going to practice a few days. I'd be really focused on that power play and look at what Dallas has done because Dallas is doing a pretty good in the PK against Winnipeg till I think last night didn't they have two goals I think
Starting point is 00:39:48 Winnipeg on the power play so I'd be watching what Winnipeg's done against them and what Dallas has been doing as a penalty kill. Well also Winnipeg had the number one power play in the league this year they were really good. Right. Did you pay any attention to this Carolina Washington series because Carolina's just played 10 games and they're waiting for everybody. I mean this has been a master class and I don't feel like anybody's given them any respect. It's hard and I've tried. I watched their game before the orders game four and I almost fell asleep.
Starting point is 00:40:23 It's not very exciting and Then the orders game comes on and Vegas owners are running each other and it wakes you up again. This is what I like about the Canes. I feel like this team reminds me of when they won in 2006.
Starting point is 00:40:36 They're four lines deep. They all play the same way. You can take the name bars and the numbers off the back and they just roll them out, one shift after another. We play fast, fast we attack it pucks to the net you know we're just just playing so quick that I think that they're they're gonna be hard to beat and they'd be annoying and because every shift they play the same there's
Starting point is 00:40:57 no no no one's taking shifts off Rod the bod won't let you take the shift off so they've looked good and and I think we're all not giving them enough respect because now you're going into, you know, they got to play I guess Toronto, Florida next and not being interesting. Can those two teams keep the pace of what these guys and how they play in it? So yeah, they're no, they have not got the respect but I think the other three series
Starting point is 00:41:21 have been more compelling by a long way. Absolutely. Speaking of respect, this is the one year anniversary study of when you enlighten me that uh... it's a long weekend in alberta so i've never forgotten that it's great to know you guys are going to get monday off to out there you deserve it and it's we love you we love everything about
Starting point is 00:41:43 the west i just want to thank you for having me on because you guys never have me on and it's we love you we love everything about uh... uh... but i just want to thank you for having a lot of you guys never have me on when the leaves are losing orders are winning so that may wish a market that anniversary of well first time in how many years that this is happen to have a lot of but a lot of stricken crap it's been a long time couple of anniversaries mark today we appreciate it
Starting point is 00:42:05 enjoy the long weekend struddy we'll do it again soon aw man i can't wait enjoy the games man guys i love the stress level it's so much fun enjoy it jason strudwick joining us from edmonton alberta you don't think he's gonna have stress if they play dallas or oh yeah those teams are really good too but it is a great
Starting point is 00:42:25 place to be when your team's through and you're just watching other teams grind. Hey you want to look at a great example for the Leafs last night guys. Just watch that Winnipeg game. Some of their skilled players showed up on special teams. They had a performance in net like they they were they played hungry. They fought for their lives. Because their lives were on the line. That's it that we're is playing according to the situation that's what i talked about in the first segment play according to the situation okay so then at six fifty
Starting point is 00:42:55 three before we sign off you wanna play rocky you wanna play there is no tomorrow yes i saw something like that i think it's gotta be played is it like which one was that? Was that? That's because that's what Rocky went out to California to train with Apollo Creed. Yeah, so Apollo's yelling at him. And they're running on the beach and he stopped and he looked at him and he goes, what's wrong with you? And then he looked at Adrian and he said, I'm afraid, I'm afraid. And then they, then
Starting point is 00:43:21 they ran and jumped in the water after that segment That's one of the most motivating segments like I still get fired up when I see that all right It's coming up later this afternoon. It's that simple James Duffy will join us we got MJ coming up from Sweden as well as the world's continue Dear hazy be a little bit later this afternoon overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN to a championship round to afternoon overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. Alright we're tracking the TGA Championship round 2. It's been a weird leaderboard man. Weird leaderboard and some fucking stuff happening out there. Dude that's Shane Lowry. This guy with a pro barrel walked out in the fairway today and told Shane Lowry you're
Starting point is 00:44:02 not picking. The ball was clearly embedded into the ground and he said he looked at imagine a guy coming out and saying you're just hitting that I've never seen a pro golfer have to hit a golf ball that was embedded into the grass I can't believe how bad that ruling was furthermore it was on the it was on the fairway you know like if which again that should make a difference in terms of embedded but if anything you're like The guy should it's the fairway man like that. What are you doing overruling that? I know and he chunks it out and then takes a pelt out of it, too
Starting point is 00:44:34 I wanted to grab the guy with the pro barrel and wrangle him right Yeah, he was really angry at that guy and I think deservedly that is a horrible ruling to like what? What could the reasoning be where he said actually you don't get relief from that? It's just you got to play it as it like it was embedded in the fairway Yeah You can only see half the ball like it was crazy that they didn't give him the ability to pick that ball up and drop and He's freaking out. He's losing his mind
Starting point is 00:45:04 John Vegas is currently leading the tournament to pick that ball up and drop and he's freaking out he's losing his mind. John Vegas is currently leading the tournament. I know John Vegas. Crazy. It had a weird vibe today. It was like a weird leaderboard and it kind of somebody sent me a text saying I didn't sign up for the John Deere Classic. Yes that's what it felt like exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Now I will say Scheffler's at four under now he's still out felt like, exactly. Now I will say, Scheffler's at four under now, he's still out there. Like, Scottie's starting to put some eyeballs on the top of the leaderboard. That will make some shorts melt off of some golfers. Yes. Not because of heat. No, if you're Jonathan Vegas, if you're Alex Smalley. Look at this animal came out and told Shane Lowry,
Starting point is 00:45:45 play it as it lies. The pro barrel. I love that guy with the tight tuck. That guy just had Bojangles and wheeled out there and said, play it as it lies. Yeah, that's our guy. That's a guy that would love our show. Yeah, it would just chap Lowry's ass.
Starting point is 00:46:02 That guy and the guy from the NHL, the guy from the NHL in the hotel lounge. That guy said to one of his buddies, watch me go screw over Shane Lowry right now. Yeah. He was excited to get out there with that ruling. He really was. And he gave him one and he didn't want to hear it. But Pendreth is 300 for the tournament. Taylor Pendreth, so we do have some Canadian content there.
Starting point is 00:46:25 McRoy is 400 on the day now, 100 on the tournament so it feels good for him making the cut and possibly starting to skyrocket up into Shambo is at 300 for the tournament too. So there are some big names there. Dude, that's a big clawback for Rory man. Plus three to go one. That's awesome. Big time man. Big time and he's still on the course.
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