OverDrive - OverDrive - May 2, 2025 - Hour 1
Episode Date: May 2, 2025Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' first round triumph against the Senators, the team's performance to win the series and the ...second round matchup against the Panthers. They also discuss the winning mentality in the close out game against the Senators, the impressive players in the series and the Oilers advancing with the victory against the Kings.
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Odog Jeff O'Neill Jamie Noodles McClennan
Going on what's going on? I tried to build off the momentum of the big win last night with the maple leaves
Coming up to my place in Collingwood. I was on the 400
I saw a pickup truck with a flag on the back window,
maple leafs. I said, this guy's probably really fired up. And there's a few moments in life
where you think you're kind of famous and the guy's going to look over. When I give
a thumbs up, he's going to see who it is and he's going to give a thumbs up back. I gave
him the thumbs up and he went middle bird back.
I love that attitude.
I know but I was like let's keep this train rolling, let's give him the thumbs up and
leave spirit and la la la and it was a middle bird and see you later.
All good. Hey listen, it's Friday into May man. You're going up to 400. Those are prison
rolls.
I think what he thought I was doing was being like nice driving guy, like you're going up to 400 those are prison rules. I think what he thought I was doing was being like
nice driving guy like you're a loser and I was just like I gotta take Hayes advice because that's
the second time in the last week that I gave a thumbs up to like a Leafs flag car person and
both times they're like what do you do?'s karma karma for your behavior in costco
that guy came up to you and you were like a
knock it off of the beard talker what did you say that's right
uh... i was a year later why do you know
yeah that's you know what that's the equivalent of the beards white this guy
is like why is this guy will
waving at me on the road i had to set up a happen out i'm all out i will not
it's i i gotta wait for them to come to me now, but unfortunately, it's gonna be beard comments
Yeah, you're not gonna get the thumbs up in in response
You're gonna get where's the beard or what's up with the beard? But look at us. No beard
We didn't play major league on the way in right that that's all good now noodles
We played major league after game three, but it's all good because the Leafs found a way to be victorious in the end and
But it's all good because the least found a way to be victorious in the end and
All of a sudden look at us, you know twice in three years. We're teeing up a second round Oh, are we ever and all the chatter today that I got in the comments that I got it was nothing
Nothing of and I guess this this is just life and sports
Nothing of a great series, you series, they got it done,
stole our whatever, Matthews, big boys.
It was like, what are the chances against Florida?
It directly shifted right to Florida.
Yes, it did.
What are the chances?
It did quickly.
Yeah, that's fandom, I guess.
Well, I mean, I think it says something about
the approach to this series, where I do think
there's a very different feeling today from that of two years ago when they beat Tampa at that
point the belief was all right the monkeys off their back look out you know
bring on Florida bring on whoever now they're gonna respond and they're gonna
take off I think based on what happened in that second round is possibly pumping
the brakes on on that celebration.
But I also think, you know, when you really, once you get through it, it's easier to look
back and analyze and, you know, players always talk about this management types that you
got to stay even keel, you got to stay objective.
You know, they had a three nothing lead in the series.
And at that point, you have to win.
You're supposed to win.
I think a lot of people believe they would win once they got up 3-0. It got dicey there after game five.
Yeah, they won a division. They're playing a wild card team.
Yeah, you got to win that series.
You got to win that series.
That's simple. They have to win. To their credit, they did that.
Yeah. And to Ottawa's credit, we, as people that talk about the Leafs on a daily basis,
we got hyper-focused, and it was natural,
and we're just dealing with stats.
But I think during the series, all we did was like,
okay, the core four, they can't score.
I think it took away from how well Ottawa played
a little bit.
Ottawa played their asses off, man.
They played hard, and they defended,
and they got a quality goaltender back there.
And winning's hard.
So I think during our focus on the Maple Leaf players and what they were we're not doing
We never really kind of gave some props to Ottawa for how well they played
That was a tight series man
Although we just talked about the Leafs being the team that won the division playing against the wild-card team
They played their asses off and they like couple how overtime three overtime games one goal game that's true to
yeah six minutes to play it mad i i think you know what
you're right like
there's lots of different ways we can look at it guys but
i thought there was the games were pretty
damn entertaining like they were good it was good
it was good hockey yes the first game was an outlier but outside of that it
was good hard-fought playoff hockey uh... you know not so much league changes as much as you know some some some unique
challenges throughout it and you know in the playoffs it's rare that you just see you know
a complete drubbing and that's it type of thing you are going to see a lot of different
things I said this before
if if we would have said
you know true serum
what do you believe this is well if it's leasing six leasing seven
now it didn't
i think what happened is the way they arrived at it is was the most unique
thing right that's what make it everyone go what the hell's going on here but you
know in the end if m if ottawa wins that first overtime game that makes it 2-1 and then it looks different and how you arrive
at at least in six but there was some adversity I think you did see of you
know when you're giving flowers to Ottawa you did see some growth you did
see you know when you don't watch that team nightly you know I do but other
people don't you're like man they got some pretty damn good players there's
some guys to build and and that's a great thing.
And when they go to pick up the pieces or sort of rebuild
or take a look at a forensic audit this off season,
they're going to see where they felt like they came up short,
guys that can have growth, all of that type of stuff.
And then here, when we're doing,
hey, we're heading into the second round,
you can take a look at, okay, there's some growth here,
or, you know, guys stepped
up the patch already thing that was a really great storyline the last couple days, the
last couple games him being inserted that's a that's a coach's gut feel that ended up
paying off the guy gets the game winning goal in the series right time help the turnover
on Nylander school like, you know, patch already. He's been there done that veteran guy, you
know, you can talk about Brad Tree
Living, giving him some flowers, because this is a guy that kind of brought him in kind
of under the radar. Remember there was whispers the offseason like here, Patrick, Eddie's
kind of coming in and giving a workout for them. And, and I think it was a PTO, right?
He was a PTO. He was not exactly like come in, let's see if you can still play. That's
really what it was. So the last three years hasn't been great and
you know, it doesn't start the playoffs, like there's some great storylines and if you look at it...
let me ask you two guys this
if you could say, if that negotiation was going on Hayes
and the player Patcheretti said to you, and you were Tree
I'll give you
the game-winning goal in game six in the first
round of the playoffs what would you pay him for it well you got it they have no money
yeah I'm just saying if you could put a number on that goal like I think you're saying is
he earned everything he's made last night but I would have said hey if you were gonna if
you can guarantee me the game-winning goal Yeah, wait games. I'd give you two million bucks
Fortune and I say well, we'll give you because think of the home
They just got a guaranteed two home dates, right? Like that's well, that's another way of putting it
But I think fans you start a go fund me
Like you go up to Stephen Lawrence and say if you score a game winner in game seven against Florida
Well, we'll find a hundred million cash for you
you score a game winner in game seven against Florida, we'll find a hundred million cash for you, Christie Pitts.
We will go fund me all the way to a point where there will be duffel bags waiting for
you.
That's the next one.
What's that one worth?
The game clenching, the series clenching goal against the Florida Panthers.
It's worth a lot, man.
It is worth a lot.
We will get to that throughout the afternoon.
It sounds as if Monday's going to be game one, nothing guaranteed yet.
Chris Johnston indicating that that's where the league is leaning but again it's not confirmed
yet in terms of what's going to happen.
We know the game will be in Toronto but you're right about, you know, now that the dust settles
and you can look back and the beauty of the playoffs is you just live in by every shift
and every game and your your
Recalibrate how you feel and where you think things are gonna go
But now that it's over you can look back and you realize the Leafs checked You know a lot of boxes that everyone knew we're going to have to be checked
Right like Stolas was gonna have to play well. I thought he played well
Like I didn't think he got he got overly tested, right?
It wasn't like he ever faced 40 or 50 shots but I thought
he played well and now he's off and running now his feet are wet in the
playoffs I think the way the core four stepped up to their credit last night
they needed that game like Matthews had to score Willie had to score they all
put up points you know in the end I think the four of them combined for 29
points in the series so you look at that you're like check and then what else did we talk about for years? Well, if the core four is going
to show up and you're going to get some goaltending, you're going to need some other guys to supply
moments. Domi in game two, Benoit in game three, Pat Ready in game six, Lawton with
that block shot in game six. And then you also look at it last night, who played the
most even strength minutes?
Brandon Carlo.
Brandon Carlo played more five on five than anybody on the ice last night for the Leafs.
So like just contributions from guys that you knew were going to have to be there.
And in the end, I think the Leafs again should be happy about it.
They deserved it.
They earned it.
Um, and now you reset and now you got the toughest test in the sport and that's what's
waiting for you. Yeah. The reality is this is as tough as it gets
Florida Panthers, yeah
Stop yeah Vasilevsky talked about the Panthers today. He said they're the best team in hockey and
What he said them the one thing that got my attention was yeah, he's like they're the most consistent
They do the same thing every time and he said they're the most consistent. They do the same thing every time.
And he said they're the most consistent.
And when you do that, you deserve all the luck.
You earn all the luck.
And that's why they're doing what they're doing.
So it's like, that'll put you on notice.
You'd have to be stupid not to understand that.
Like, one shift, one kind of brain dead play, one stupid giveaway, one dumb icing, it can be costly against those guys.
They just, they have it cooking right now,
much like Tampa did when they marched
to three straight finals, and they just know how to win, man.
They know what to do and they know how to get it done
and they'll make you pay for any kind of laps.
Absolutely.
I said last night, they're like the Dodgers
and the Kansas City Chiefs.
You know, that's what they are
They don't get the same billing, but they have the same or they've been to two straight cup finals
Yeah, they just as manly Tampa
They dummied Tampa like beat them up and dummy them and they moved on so that's what you're facing here
But doesn't mean like those two that team can be beat, you know, go talk to the Philadelphia Eagles
They walked into the Super Bowl and smacked Kansas City around.
I don't picture a scenario where the Leafs are going to smack them around,
but I'm curious, you know, how they intend on elevating beyond what they just did,
because I think the game plan is going to have to be very similar.
You have to check, you have to block shots like crazy, right?
You're going to have to get big moments, but it's going to get nastier,
because I think, you know, as you look back and do a breakdown of the battle of Ontario, it never got nasty.
No, it never got crazy.
It never turned into a track meet.
Like you see some of the games last night, Colorado, Dallas and Edmonton, LA.
That just never happened.
It never happened here.
It was just always kind of a chess game and methodical and afraid to take a penalty and
respectful and which is fine.
And I think that's what the Leafs wanted and I think the Leafs in the end
obviously they're very comfortable in that.
That's the one thing that Florida does is make you
uncomfortable. Right. And that's that'll be the biggest challenge for the Leafs.
Can you play through discomfort because you, you know, oh, I've still
laugh. I was telling somebody about your analogy where the, you know, the guys at school looking
through the glass, the bullies going, who wants to come out and play? You guys want to come out and play?
Because we're out here. Like that's the Leafs that are coming out. Well, that's right. They're on their
way out and they're going to go to the hill and see how things unfold. And, you know, they got to
give them, listen, they're gonna have a game plan,
and they're gonna have to elevate in certain areas.
And so will Florida.
Florida, Tampa is different because those teams,
they have a hated rivalry.
Like that's a hated, Brandon Hagel,
like he just, I don't know if you heard his comments
this afternoon or was that this morning.
But I mean, no, he's disappointed that, you know, Eklat, like
that was he felt that was over the line to attempt to injure. And this is a guy
who knocked Barkov off. Exactly. That would be Eklat's answer. What were you trying to do to Barkov?
But that's... When you do that, when you give that to Barkov, I don't even know if you can make the comment.
Yeah. But again, you know, there's a there's a heated passion rivalry there
but Florida plays a certain way and
You either play you conform with it or you've got to find a way around it and get them uncomfortable or something
You know in some form of that, but they're gonna make you uncomfortable and you know looking today. You've got
Reinhart and Barkoff those are selkie finalists. Like those are, that's deep as far as really good
two-way checkers and stuff.
Like I look back at, you know, I covered that final series
there for Sports Center and you know,
Barkov and Reinhardt and those guys,
they did a number on McDavid and Dry Settle,
you know, in that series.
Like they were really, really heavy and tough.
It was like skating in mud out there.
So that's a good-
Jamie, let me ask you this.
How do you get to them?
If you saw one thing where you're like, that's the one thing for the Florida Panthers, that's
how you get to them.
Okay, so the one thing that I would notice, and this is where maybe the Leafs are built
a little bit differently this year than previous years, is they do have some guys who will
push back.
Like, Patcha Reddy's not going to drop the gloves and fight. He will if he wants to, but he's a physical guy and can
stand up. Like, I would think that the Panthers are going to impose their physical will. There's
guys on the Leafs that can handle the physical will and give it back.
But what's the counter to it? I'm talking the Leafs towards the Panthers. If the Panthers
are going to try to overwhelm the Toronto Maple Leafs physically,
what's their counter-attack? Is it simply speed and skill and making them pay?
Well, but they have that too. You can beat them at their own game or you can, if you play whistle to whistle
and you draw penalties, like this is where special teams, this is where we just talked about the difference
between the moments with Ottawa and Toronto,
you know, a missed opportunity, a missed play here, a missed assignment, and the team takes
advantage of it.
That's what's going to be here.
It might be a game of inches.
It might be, you know, the difference in, you know, it might be 2-2 deep in the third
period and somebody makes a mistake and one guy on either team, a difference
maker makes them pay.
I see this as a hard fought deep series.
That's the way I look at it.
Yeah.
I would think the same thing.
I think even if you look back on the series from a couple years ago, it was just like
the Leafs just got smothered.
They didn't get blown out.
That's not really what Florida does. They don're not they don't win 7-1, you know 7-2
it's generally they just buy their time and they look for you and they lean on you and then the
differences because you've got three guys for Florida here that are a three pack of
Villains and Marchands at the top and he's only played like ten games for them
You know, he's at the top for Leaf fans in my opinion
I'd be curious to see how
people react to that may we could throw that poll up
but it's marsh and could chuck in sam bennett like those are the three guys
you know act blad will play a little bit i don't think he's that tough though i
don't i don't think act blad scares people he's big hill
you know we got his elbow operas form up or whatever
uh... seth jones isn't a big scary guy.
Their defense has just really sounded really good.
But those three, Marshand, Kachuk and Bennett, they're going to be looking for action.
And I would counter the Leafs, like what you asked though.
I guess you need Lotton, Domi and another guy, but you're not attacking them necessarily.
It's if you get a lick on Verhege, you've got to bury him.
You've got to bury him.
And if you get a lick on Barkov, you've got to bury him because they're going to try to
do that to Matthews and Marner and Nylander.
You know it's coming.
Like, they're going right at those guys.
And they're going to attack and attack and attack.
And if you attack back at Matthew Kachuk, he loves it.
He wants that. Brad Marchand wants you to come back at Matthew Kachuk he loves it. He wants that.
Brad Marshan wants you to come back at him. He's waiting for that. It's easier said than
done and it's been a game plan that other teams have tried to apply and it hasn't worked.
But I think it's Reinhardt, Barkov, Verhagge, you know guys like that you got to go out
and just say we're going to try to destroy you every time we can. Jake McCabe every chance
you get. Carlo every chance you get. Carlo, every chance you get.
Ekman Larsen can play heavy.
Ben Woff, you can do it, do it.
Because those guys, they play kind of like Marner and Matthews.
They're bigger and heavier, but they're not nasty and mean.
So that's going to be the chess game.
But you also can't get dragged into looking for brawls and fights.. Florida just has too many of those. They got too many of those guys.
We've got Michola on the back end, he's a monster. You gotta find something though, you guys remember that series the
Panthers had against Carolina? It was like Matthew Kachuk with just he just
did whatever he wanted. He was slapping people in the face and scoring goals.
It's like you got to have something. I agree that in the face and scoring goals. It's like you gotta have something.
I agree that punching the face scrums aren't to anybody's advantage on the Maple Leaf side,
but you just gotta show that you're not gonna get run around.
That's it.
You gotta have a lot of pushback.
Yeah, and I think you'll get that from, again, the majority of the lineup.
It's the star players.
That's gonna be the question again.
Oh yeah, and a guy that can lead the charge, I think is 34 you saw it last night if he wants to
take a run at somebody and really inflict some pain like you get that cool
look any of those defensemen like just see can destroy absolutely that guy
your body biggest physical force up front for the Maple Leaf he's just not
he's more wired more like Barkov that's the unfortunate part if you's the bark off in the playoffs Jamie he sometimes goes in the behind the
net or in the corner and he's gonna kill you I understand it's just like you say there's
certain guys like you were talking Hayes about the three pack at the top for me is Matthew
Kachuk because he's a number one player he's a flat out number like Marchand was that eight
years ago like Marchand was their eight years ago. Like Marchand was
their best player against Tampa in game five. I will say he was flying and he looked great.
But Marchand was brought there in a support role. He's brought there as a supporting cast
guy not to be the main factor. Matthew Kachuck is the main factor. Hey, or oh, you said it
yesterday that the fortunes that organization might have changed with that acquisition
because that team looks different with him there
and you know what's crazy about it not hardly anybody wanted it i'd bet you
that put up their hands who wants to do this deal not a lot of people said yeah
and billy zito pull the trigger on it well well
i mean it's a brilliant deal and listen you're not gonna match kichuck we just
went through a pretty sick different player like br like Brady's Brady's more of an honest
Guy that he'll run through you and he'll bury you and if you want to fight you're in trouble
But Kachuk Matthew is looking to agitate
He's gonna punch Marner in the face the first second he can
The the best way to counter is is you got to play your game
You got to play the four best games you've ever played
I mean that's ultimately what it comes down to.
If you're Matthews and Marner, you've got to score, you've got to contribute, you've
got to be wizards on the power play, you've got to kill penalties.
They did all that during the Ottawa series.
You've got to do it plus, plus, plus because this is as tough as it gets, but ultimately
this is what you knew was coming.
If you're going to make it to the second round round you're going to play a team like this.
It was either Florida or Tampa.
It is Florida and it's a great opportunity for them that they've earned because they
won the division and they just won a series to shut a lot of people up.
Like you didn't shut everyone up against Ottawa.
You shut almost everyone up and I'm not building this up to be a cup final, it's not.
But if you can beat this team that is a real feather in your cap man like it's a real statement
this is the statement this series right here.
We're pumping them up I mean they're a really good hockey team but if the Toronto Maple
Leafs who also have some real quality players if they dig down and find something that they
haven't found before they'll have a chance to win. Yes, like there's no question. Of course, but they got to do it
Every single shift every night they play against this team because of what we just talked about
Vasilevsky talking about consistency in the neutral zone. They have this defensive type checkings
They will pinch you off squeeze you off every time.
And if you think it's a stupid little play into the middle, that's where they're going
to prey on you. It's just, you got to dig. I was just talking down the street when I
had some lunch. I'm like, they got to dig down and find something they've never found
before. And if the series is over and they say, well, you know, like shame on them if
they don't know that. Like that's, that's what's's at stake find your best hockey for the two weeks and that's your
only option to beat these guys I think they do and they better there's the other
thing too okay so there's only what one series left to be sucked you know sorted
out correct too I'm sorry yeah we're waiting for the central division yes
you're right so yeah Winnipeg it takes a louis dallas colorado
if you
if will all go around the table
in my opinion
one cup contender is now gone
that's the tampa bay lightning
is there anybody else you know i didn't think i like to get to the six-year-old
winds so it's not i thought l a was a contender but after watching them play
in that series
i don't know if they really were i don't know what the hell happened well credit
and i did not get out by field place like just ripped their solos
well i was i mean they keep referencing it
in the end like it's a goalie challenge but
you know what evanton's allowed to to wake up and get going and they did and
they did but here's so
it in
tampa's off the board
yes that's it
it in my opinion
i thought there was about nine teams out of the sixteen that were legit
the tampa's off the board one of dallas of colorado's gonna be off the board
and
i don't know if saint louis was in that conversation i don't think so personal
winnipeg is
now when they're going to find a way to do it
but they're putting st. Louis in okay
But okay, so the point being is now regardless of who you're gonna play in the second round or third round or fourth round
Those are all like deeper cup contending teams. Yes, so that's that's the that's ultimately the my focus is like
Yes, the first round there were some great matchups there was some great
hockey
you know we got one game seven potentially a second if if winnipeg
doesn't get the job done tonight right
but not as deep of series like i would have thought again i was wrong but i
thought that that
temple florida was going to be a seven game blood bath
it was still a blood bath but it was just five
if that's the right it orders through through and Vegas took care of business and Edmonton took care of business
last night and the Leafs obviously. So yeah, you're right. You've got Toronto, Florida,
Washington, Carolina, all serious teams. You know the one and two seed or I guess Florida
was a three seed but you know no wild cards.
Yeah, you don't like they get the benefit of the doubt.
Absolutely. Like they are who they are. They're the favorites. you know, and that's they'd be the favorites against any team they
were going to play.
I truly believe that neutral site.
I don't care who they play Vegas, Winnipeg, Edmonton, Dallas.
It doesn't matter.
Florida is supposed is going to be the favorite.
They deserve that.
And then Vegas, Edmonton is going to be an outstanding series.
Unbelievable.
And you could have any combination of Winnipeg.
I think Winnipeg in particular, but Winnipeg i think we're taking a particular but when a peg or saint louis up against
allison colorado you're right i mean you're you're looking at eighteen let's
say it's when a peg dallas
you get a teams for you could spin it any which may argument for all a any
combination that's that's my dad's this is not so it should be you laid it out
as the toughest test it is going to be regardless of who you're placing
this is going to as the toughest test it is going to be regardless of who you're facing this is going to be the toughest test and you know I'm excited to get it
going I'm glad that it's I hope it's Monday or whatever like let's get this
sounds like also I'm glad it's not tomorrow well that's what I was thinking
too like what you can't have the first round still going in the second round
playing like I think the league does it right here it is let's get this all
finished first this first round get them seating and then you get you get going and well we got one game seven
tomorrow Colorado Dallas if st. Louis wins tonight we'll have st. Louis
Winnipeg Sunday that's a great weekend like game seven standalone Saturday game
seven standalone Sunday into the second round right on Monday I'm all for that
all right we've got Mike Johnson coming up today Bill Lindsay will join us we'll
start again turning the page.
It happens quick.
Looking ahead to the Florida Panthers of what is in front of the Maple Leafs here.
I've got a list as well of five people within the Leaf organization that would benefit the
most from beating the Florida Panthers.
I've got a little five pack for you today.
Okay?
We're going to get to that.
We're going to get out in front of it.
Right?
We're getting out in front of this immediately and continue to look back on the Battle of Ontario or for leaf fans
They worked out again. That's five and oh, you know in the last 25 years and keep looking ahead to where Ottawa takes it from
Here as well overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN for all right on Twitter at overdrive 1050
We have a poll up very early asking which Panther players the biggest biggest villain for the maple is matthew kichuck in the lead
right now
brad marshan is right behind him there's not another one is there a thought
sam bennett's or be another guy that
could definitely he'll get his nose dirty you can't i mean there's not
another kid like you know how many could trucks there's not another one in the
metro is there like that's enough
Go through one you get to another one and then if you go through imagine there was a third one
Yeah, it's honestly like the kumat and you just keep running in yeah Chuck Brothers
The third one's a defenseman six six and nasty and crossed. It would just be the worst Kachak of all.
We have to create a third Kachak.
What would he be like?
I'm telling you, he would be a D-man.
He would be Chris Pronger, but meaner and nastier than Pronger.
Jacob Middleton's mustache from Minnesota.
Definitely.
Well, that's like the Stahl brothers, right?
You've got the two centers and then the big
Defenseman mark the third one's got to be a defenseman. Yeah for sure
So yeah, we'll track that poll throughout the day and you know, you look at it do you just sent stats? You know, we've talked a lot about the core four and deservedly so as as we should
I mean
I don't think anyone expects any more to their best players in Toronto than any other fan base does of their best players
Like no one in Florida is like man that fourth line better be great
You know, it's the best players you got to step up into their credit
I thought they played well game five notwithstanding
But they thought they played really well throughout the series and in 2024 against the Bruins in the first round
They collectively had 12 points now a little bit misleading because Willie missed the first few games and then Matthews missed
a couple of games but 12 points total through seven against Boston this year
29 points total through six games against Ottawa. That's what has to continue.
You got to keep going. You got to keep racking up points and playing well and
defending well and killing penalties and winning at the faceoff dot
all those little details and to their credit they did that
Hayes I think you're talking about the Florida Panthers and the way they play and
the way they defend
and their goaltending
like we're going to be talking about if I can
predict this thing
appropriately
every night
we're going to be talking about a couple of moments
Like the if I were to guess right this is these are gonna be two one three two hockey games
So like we're not talking about guys going nuts and having three goals and to assist if they do that's great
But it's highly unlikely like we're talking about you get an opportunity to score
You got to make it count like that because they're just not going to be available
Yeah, like we've done the maple leaves have done a great job
And I give I give perubia a lot of credit
I think obviously the way they defend and there's been stretches in the games where you're looking at the shot clock
I don't know if many people pay attention to that
but long stretches and you're like god these sends haven't got a shot in
ten minutes like stretches and you're like, god, these Sens haven't got a shot in 10 minutes.
So they've done a really good job at that.
But we're going to be talking about a few key moments and who's going to be the team
that capitalizes on it.
I agree.
And I think what the Leafs did very well, and I would assume this is driven home by
Craig Borubey and we keep talking about his composure and his general attitude towards
things is
They bounced back from moments that I think in the past could have been very
Backbreaking for them like you mentioned they committed to really pushing Ottawa on the outside remember game two I think it was got dead the first shot on net
He tips in in the third and it goes in all of a sudden you're going to overtime
But they found a way to win that game game three three the same thing. I believe David Piranha, the first registered shot of the third period,
goes in. Look at last night. That Piranha goal, that's a story you're talking about.
Can you believe that guy to score behind the goal line? How does that happen? Only the
Leafs. Only they could find... And they didn't allow that to be a story. Now you can laugh
about it. It's not a story because two minutes later max
pat already scores in the games over
uh... and the guy who could really laugh about it is still arson
why we play this audio after the
after the game where anthony stores was asked about like what happened there how
did how to prong final way to score
from below the goal line
that is goes and happens you know uh... it's uh... one of those things you know score from below the goal line. Yeah, it goes in and it happens.
It's one of those things, you got a little horny on the poke check.
You live and you learn.
That's the life of a goaltender.
You kind of just flush it out of your mind.
Like I said, you got the next shots coming and that's a more important one than the last one that just went in.
That might be the first time I've ever heard a goaltender describing
being a little anxious as horny on the poke check. Well you can see what he was trying
to do. Yeah, we love that one. You can see what he was trying to do. He's going paddle
down because there is a body in front. He's trying to take that pass away and goes off
the back of his mask. He was right. He was trying to get a little horny But he was just all you know, he's anticipating a pass. I gotta tell you though when that one went in I was like
Yeah, I'm not a good headspace right now. No, that was not comfortable. I was like, okay
It was just the same it kind of felt like the Flyers in Boston
The Flyers were down three Cobb in the series and then they were down three Cobb in the series, and then they were down three Cobb
in game seven, and they came back and won.
And it had that vibe to it where it's like,
okay, you guys got up two nothing,
and now it's really gotta be two two,
like does it really have to be that way?
For a split second, our boy Donnie Nichols and myself,
we went to a dark place, and we came back
after the passion.
Oh, the spinning of back and
forth over the course of this series you know after game three everyone's like
it's they're so comfortable never been more confident
then prawn scores in game six and people are thinking here we go
sober done don't even is that crazy some of the message you got from lake
out to establish like grown people yeah
for a city of reading it i don't think that's's where you see the game six it's
like after game three I love this team a lot different love the composure love
the code yeah trade everyone same guys hate them all I can't do this same you
knew it was gonna happen yeah that's the came back last night so they came back
I have the same conversations but they're in my house
Oh, yeah here because it's you get people that are fans and they're just the roller coasters are just all over that
They're gonna lose now. They're gonna I'm like it's tied. What are you talking about? This is new series coming up
Jamie will bring new highs and lows. I'll tell you yeah, I want it so important man
You cannot overstate take taking advantage of home ice
and get on the board.
Dude, do you think the Sens want that game one back
where there was just a toss away?
Absolutely.
Or it's like take six two.
Can't do it, can't have it.
No, you can't have it.
You can't wait into anything, you gotta show up,
you gotta be on your toes, you gotta be ready.
You gotta be ready to play.
All right, Mike Johnson coming up in about a half an hour.
I've got a five pack, the five members of the Leaf organization that would benefit the most from beating the
Florida Panthers if they can get past the Panthers in the next round. We'll get to that.
We'll recap again the game last night. Edmonton winning last night. Game six in St. Louis
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All right, so I've got a five-packing I'll get to momentarily. I will say I
thought you know there's a there's a lot of positives that come out of it I think
for both teams if you're Ottawa listen you wanted to make the playoffs you
accomplished that you won a couple of games. I thought Stutsela was unreal last
night I thought he looked great. You know K chart that the city clearly they love him i mean the
though they were
jerry his name before they were to the rest of the team last night after they
lost it was bad a lot of fair with that guy that's few and far between with any
player area and in the whole league and yet
very very unique
clearly him first and then
you know everyone else is fighting for second as it
probably should be is
Considering how he plays and what he's done and he's the captain and he says the right things
He shows emotion and you know that that's stuff that people are looking for
But I thought you know from a lead perspective
Brad tree-living you know can put his feet up after that round and jobs not done, but
Stollers was good, but Rubé was good Scottotton took some heat the way he played down the stretch
But man did he show up and play well?
I thought Ekman Larson was great. You know there a lot of the lot of the new players
Really factored in greatly to what happened over the last two weeks
You know who I thought was kind of an unsung hero haze for the series was a guy that I was questioning even going into
into the series was Simone Benoit.
Like he was trusted in some pretty I think he was out there with a minute left on the
ice.
Yeah.
Like on the clock like he was one of the guys out there with Carlo.
Yeah.
The two of them like again I said Carlo played more even strength minutes than anybody last
night.
Yeah.
Like he played a lot last night brandon carlo
uh... more so that that of more so than the cape
yeah it was you know those are all ten it was very good i mean go on and on and
on but those role does these are all turnover players yes you know they're all
guys that that have arrived in the last twelve months
and uh... clearly played a role in what just happened and will have to continue
moving forward it chipped in, like you said,
everybody that was brought in played a role.
It might have not been the most sexy of roles,
but it was effective.
And that's what you need to do outside of just going,
hey, we need four guys to do whatever.
Like you needed supporting cast.
And the thing is, if you're the Leafs,
there's guys that still have more
put it that way you you know i don't play with the you need other players to
maintain
and you know not going would like
they made it through
for the most part again i'm not in the room but
for those ice bags but looks like they're a full roster
that's a big matter is very big like you see the list of of injuries coming out
of tampa
yeah i i don't have other teams that are It's very big. Like you see the list of injuries coming out of Tampa, you know, out of other
teams that are, you know, still in it and battling and guys aren't available and all
that type. I mean, look at the Winnipeg Jets, Mark Scheifele, number one centerman, not
available to them tonight, right? Like that type of stuff. You do need health and that
way it's not asking players to punch above their weight for extended lengths of time.
And I think there's, we could have this positive show, but you could have a five or six pack of guys that go,
that guy's got more, that guy's got more, that guy's got more.
So, and it's not a negative thing, it's just going,
this is a positive thing where you've got an opportunity still to contribute in a meaningful way.
Right, you got through the first round, with that being considered.
And there's other guys where it's like, you're going to be challenged way more in the next
round.
Like you get a good series, good for you, you played well, you battled the next one,
it's going to be that much more difficult.
Oilers just did it, they bought each other time.
McDavid and
Dreisaitl bought Nugent Hopkins time to chip in. You know what I mean? Like they took control
and yeah. You guys, we bought you some time. Next game, you show up. It's all about buying
each other time. I thought it was fantastic by the Oilers. That was very, I mean, they
won four in a row, like to their credit when they came home after. Reverse sweeper, you
kidding me? And it wasn't a game of perfect. I don't know if you guys stayed up to watch I was a craziest
It's it was insane to two four minutes into the game and egregious errors not like you know
I know a great way there's giveaways breakways. You're like what the hell is going on?
But you know in looking at it
Vasilevsky
Vezna finalist gone Kemper
Vezna finalist like they got to Darcy Kemper. Kemper didn't allow he allowed five goals
I think there was a stat once all season long brought three games in a row against Edmonton
Like it was Edmonton like really poured it to him
But it was not a game of really poured it to him but it was
not a game of perfect that and even McDavid even said like they they won the
last two games it wasn't the dry saddle McDavid show it was Connor Brown and
you know guys like farther down in the lineup that they were hoping for R&H
guys like that that that chipped in. Darnel Nurse big goal last night. Well but
Nurse was you want to talk about case studies, like this guy was giving away goals
and then scoring them.
I said earlier, I said after game two or three, I said they should be studied. That pairing
should be allowed somewhere.
I was happy for Darnell. You know him, he's a great guy, they're a great family, all of
that type of stuff. But this Matias Janmark scored two goals this season. Big time last night. Yeah, you're right. You're right. And that's, like all of that type of stuff, but it you know this Matthias Janmark scored two goals this big time last night
Yeah, you're right. You're right. That's like all of a sudden Edmonton's got some mojo and you look at Vegas
Yeah, and you're like you know okay?
You got you survived through Minnesota even though they beat him in six
Yeah, but you know Aiden Hill's been a bit shaky that hasn't been great either
I don't know what the goaltending is gonna look it could be a similar kind of crazy wild series i think it will be i i this is a
bad
comparison just because stole ours had a great season
but if you look at calvin pickard journeyman guy kind of give get an
opportunity
it it kind of mirrors a little bit against all ours
way better numbers goal saved above expectation
you know getting out of a steady start stream where Pickard came down the stretch and was forced to play with an injury to Skinner and the
Inconsistency in that but Pickard's a journeyman. He's got you know, a guy who's got a grinds away and you know
Where's Skinner like what's your mini Jerry's on Skinner showing up in the Vegas series? I think he shows up
I'd have any percent. Yeah, really I agree agree oh i think i think that there is a game away
from potentially turning into a pumpkin
this is the right track that
it is that that's a good that's a goofy way to put it but
he might just get to a certain point where you look around and be like that's
enough for me guys i did that that's right on the second round
exactly i would get lost the other thing to know is though
you look at
the way that they the team plays differently in front of Pickard that's
the other thing that I pointed that out the other day like I'll give you this
it's an unmade bet in there he's aggressive and he but you know I told
you that Mike Kelly had that stat of side to side saves he made another
unbelievable left pad save from side to side yesterday. Warren Fogle gets a breakaway early in the second period. Like he gives them that save.
Whereas Skinner hasn't been giving them that timely save where it's needed, where it's not
back breaking, where you're not chasing the game by two goals. That's the difference between
Pickard and Skinner because the numbers aren't glowing like save percentage goals against they're not glowing but he is 4-0 and he's giving
them the saves that they need and the guys like I told you the other day they
score an overtime McDavid skates away from dry saddle right to Pickard like
there's something there I just don't know what it is I agree with you and I
listen he's not alone like Jake Ottenger faced a lot of pucks last night but gave up a lot of goals in the end and so did Blackwood and you know look at all these goalies like Kemper
Like you mentioned Vasilevsky. Yeah
There there's really a lot of these series are kind of getting crazy Aiden Hill again
His numbers are not very good, right?
You know based on on conventional numbers goal saved above all that kind of stuff, but got the job done.
Now, generally as the series go on and on and on, they tighten up, generally speaking.
The first round always is so crazy and then people settle down or slow down or run out
of steam.
I'm curious how that factors into what the Panthers are going to do here, where you saw
Tampa, in their third run to the Cup, they going to do here, where you saw Tampa, like
in their third run to the cup, they got to the cup final to their credit.
They got challenged a couple of times on the way there, got through in seven or whatever,
and then got to the cup final.
It was like, we're done.
Like, we just, we don't have anything left.
We can't do it anymore after three straight years of going.
I don't, I'm not anticipating that happens this series, but you got to think the Leafs, like you just Leafs like you just mentioned noodles like they got out of this unscathed
They're fully healthy like they're fully healthy. They have home ice
Florida's played a lot of hockey the last few years
Yeah, but they're the one thing I will say that they've they've hidden well like to truck all of a sudden misses
You know like they've rested these guys down the stretch
I remember having that conversation with Paul Maurice when they weren't playing
well down the stretch and he was like he kind of cryptically was like we're we're
all right we're fine we know where we're we're gonna be and that's it was
interesting because I thought they had some interesting roster I guess
decisions down the stretch where it was like almost we're resting them because we know management
They were down exactly like unique
You know management of the players right in front of our eyes and well you could argue I didn't did that
It was like we're fine. We'll start in LA. We're totally comfortable
Yeah, that like we're they did that like there were a bunch of by all accounts
Dry Sato could have come back and McDavid a week early and like
Don't worry about it. We'll start on the road. We got no problem against this team
Yeah, and to their credit they found a way to do it and like it's just if you're the Kings
You're just thinking really like for you four times in a row. You just can't beat these guys
It's crushing considering they had it really had that opportunity
LA was a hell of a team this year.
Really good team.
Minnesota, same thing.
Minnesota now the first team in big four pro sports history to make the playoffs eight
of a possible 10 years and go out in the first round every single year.
Dude, that's crazy, man.
Crazy.
Again, you talk about the Leafs and you talk about these other stories and other situations
and the Blue Jays and all that.
Minnesota gets to the dance
It's basically a formality every single year dude
and they lose in the first round every single year think about hard and how proud you are to make the playoffs and then
How much we talk crap about Detroit and Buffalo they get ten extra days more than Buffalo and Detroit, right?
It's like are you that cool that you stick around for 10 more days than those teams?
How pissed off have we been on this show seven out of nine years?
Definitely.
Like that's the question.
You're pissed if you're in Minnesota.
You get there.
Now, I will say it's different because Billy Garan has had some real, I mean, some real
big challenges like through their own doing it the buyouts and stuff i gave i don't think i think minutes minnesota over achieved
in a couple years where is like i didn't see that as a playoff team and all the
sender and he's going to be loyd christmas getting out of the lamborghini
this summer because those guys are off the box and he is going to have a
from my suitcase full of cash
he will uh... by mike johnson coming up in the next hour. I'll get to
my five pack looking ahead to the Leafs Panthers series. Jay's in action tonight as well. Cleveland
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