OverDrive - OverDrive - May 23, 2025 - Hour 3

Episode Date: May 23, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 3 on OverDrive! Hockey Hall of Famer and Stanley Cup Champion Chris Pronger joins to discuss the biggest headlines from around the Stanley Cu...p Playoffs, the Maple Leafs' vision to success and the pathway for the team in the new era. The guys hand out their best advice in the latest edition of Dear Hayesy-B and Bryan gives his FanDuel Best Bets.

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Starting point is 00:00:37 Big hour, Chris Pronger coming up here in just a moment. Dear Hazy B, later in the hour, our best bets, we're chugging towards Edmonton Dallas tonight, game two Nix Pacers tonight. The Jays are down at the trop, they're down in Tampa tracking Scottie Scheffler down in Texas. See what's going on down there and it's gonna be a fun weekend and the first weekend without Maple Leaf Hockey in a long long time. Yeah. And we had a Keith Paley presser today. We had the Brett and Shanahan news yesterday. And we'll catch up with Prongs and get his take on all that. What he sees happening in the future and just what he makes of the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Just enough why I is we back in the day. I think we referred to that Dion Fanoff group as like coach killers and. Phil, like we are like like Phil's a coach killer. That top line's I think we said that all of us. Well look what these guys have mowed through. They just got the president fired. They've had three GMs and three coaches. So yeah, it feels like it feels a coach killer and Dion were coach killers and Bozak and
Starting point is 00:01:46 JVR and those guys. What exactly is are these guys and it goes back to the same point about bringing people back and it's like you're talking about a president like these are big time firings. These are big time positions. You just heard the guy today talking about how important this organization is but throughout the league a president three g m's and three coaches think about that
Starting point is 00:02:09 that's a lot it's a lot of them and matthewson and listen now mariner is probably just gonna get out of here you know he's probably just gonna leave and say forget it you know i'm leaving and the are the argument will be made while no one wants a back or how could you possibly want to stay it's too tough and all that
Starting point is 00:02:26 uh... you know or maybe if they want to keep on you could phrase it as if he's running as opposed to try to stay and say it's good i'm gonna take on that narrative but i'm gonna change it you know but i don't i don't hear any of that right that that maybe mitch marner should be viewing it that way instead i gotta get out of here that that maybe Mitch Marner should be viewing it that way. Instead I got to get
Starting point is 00:02:45 out of here. Wouldn't we appreciate? I know I would appreciate it. Doesn't mean I want to see it happen necessarily, but I would appreciate it greatly if he said listen I want to clarify something right here right now. I want to win in Toronto and I don't want to leave until the job's done and I get why people booed us. I get why people turned on us. I'm going to change your mind. I'm going to do this. But it's never going to happen. None of these guys are going to take any responsibility because they never have. Let me ask you this. Is it simple? And we've been talking about it for a couple days now.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Do you think that there is a layer where they're so guarded where, like you said this the other day, Brian, well, maybe it's a scenario where I would so guarded, where, like you said this the other day, Brian, well maybe it's a scenario where, I would love to hear Austin Matthews, like his actual thoughts on this, where you're genuine and just go, yeah, you know, I blew this or I needed to be better in that. Like, is it a, not a PR spin, this is the wrong wording, but would it be better, would it help the fan base if you were actually able to get more from these guys in a candid moment?
Starting point is 00:03:48 Like Austin Matthews come out that night after they lost and said like we were no good and I'm looking at him here, I need to be better. It's never been like that. I'm just asking. You get the same thing and again Keith was, we've got to improve the fan experience, the connection with the... The only way you do that is if the team wins and does differently. I always think back, they got to game seven against Florida with little production from
Starting point is 00:04:15 their top guys. Game seven against Florida, Matthews didn't dominate at any particular time. He scored one big goal. Well, I think the issue might be Noodle's that he may genuinely believe that it wasn't his fault. Right? That would be the concern. If the PR spin was, it's on me and all that, that might not be how they're wired. They may be wired like, hey, don't look at me. Go ask Peruve or go ask the other guys or whatever. I pulled my way. Ask Mr. Pronger. Ask Mr. Pronger. Yeah, we'll ask Mr. Pronger in a second. That media that night where he's like, their team wanted it more and we weren't on the same page, those were damning comments for me.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Insane comments. wanted it more and we weren't on the same page those were damning comments for me I just saying comments yes yes very much so but I don't know if that's because he's uncomfortable he was unprepared for the moment or he was again passing the buck because he's like well look at me that's what he says to his wife after our shows he was like I was good the other two are not on the same page we had passengers every Every single day. Every day. Every day we go through the grading system and I give harsh grades. Honey, I was great. Too many passengers.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Oh, dogs a bum and noodles was floating. Here's Chris Pronger joining us on Overdrive. Always gets an A plus when he comes on the show. There he is. What's up, Prongs? I'm fantastic after listening to you three this is the world i live in all the time these two was me playing the victim perfect for toronto no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no or whatever, how would you address him? Would you say, hey Larry or whatever his name was?
Starting point is 00:06:05 What did you call him? Let's see here. It depends on, initially it would be mister, but if he said don't call me that, then I would call him by his first name. There you go. Respect. Yeah, but he was, oh he was 23 years old. What would you do right now when you're almost, how old are you, 50?
Starting point is 00:06:22 You're not 50 yet. I am 50. I call everybody by their first name exactly that was my point except that was except mister snider there's always mister snider there you go see that's what i don't know if he was established anything i called him mister snider
Starting point is 00:06:41 go ahead noodles how do you respond to that? mister snider's how old? Well, he was at what point? He passed away now, but... I know, but he was like 85. He was 78 when I got there. I think he passed away around 85-ish, I believe. Yeah, so...
Starting point is 00:06:58 Somewhere around there. Okay, I get it. At 50 to your elder, yes, I get it. But if you're 50 and somebody is fifty six you don't go hey mister like to me it was like a situation I was in these guys think I'm a jackass prongs because I was thirty years old playing for the Leafs and I called Larry Tanabon the owner Larry and they they're like that's outside man gotta go with mister but this guy this haze
Starting point is 00:07:22 yet mr. Hayes mr. haze yet mr. haze mr. haze but mr. mr. old dog it's it's all depends on your style he probably appreciate it that's right you're probably blowing darts outside when he saw him for sure for sure there's Larry a hundred percent certainty that there was a player's light
Starting point is 00:07:50 in his garden bed beside his front door. For sure. That is how you break the ice. Yeah, it's been a wild week in Toronto here, Prax, because I'm curious how you value the role of the president, like the one that Shanahan played the last 11 years. Keith Pelley came out today, the president and CEO of MLSC, the larger parent company, and said that that role is not going to exist moving forward. Do you think that is that a good thing, a bad thing for the May police? Where do you stand on that?
Starting point is 00:08:29 It depends on if they keep what he's put into place moving forward. I think he was brought in under that guys, under that job title for a specific reason to look at what they were before and now what they've turned into since. There's been a lot of good things also put into place and just alumni initiatives and some of the business initiatives that Chani put in place and some of the player initiatives.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Nobody's perfect. I'm sure he'd like a redo on a number of things, but overall I think his tenure was pretty good. Not great because he didn't win. They didn't get past the, I think the sticking with the core four for as long as they did was a mistake. Especially spending that much of your cap on four players when other teams were not. And having four forwards up front counting for that much of your cap without really dealing with your defense or your goal tending. Prongs, what would you do? Like if you were asked or brought in or you were giving advice to whoever was making decisions,
Starting point is 00:09:43 what would be mandate number one this summer? Even if it came to Tavares and Marner, let them walk, get different players, what would be your one main staple that you would say this has got to happen to have any chance of different kind of results? Well I think they have to spend the money in the right places. You know, I think once they're now good, they've now created cap flexibility with the Tavares contract coming to an end, the Marner contract coming to an end. They've got the goalies under a contract for another year.
Starting point is 00:10:15 They can take a look at them, make sure they're the right guys before they spend any of the other money on them. The Nise situation, I think they need to bridge him. Personally, I would bridge him to see what he gets to. You know, people talking like he's going to get 8, 9, 10, 11, whatever people are guessing he's going to get. I love those numbers, Prongs. Like, his kid is one of his... It's out of nowhere. I know, it's comparable. If you want to go by statistical stuff, it would be a guy like
Starting point is 00:10:43 Dawson Mercer, who's making four and a half. But all of a sudden, because it's the Leafs and everybody's crazy, he gets ten. It's like, look at Dawson Mercer. Like his, yeah, it's, I don't know. You have to, you know, and then maybe with the physicality, add in a million dollars. Now he's at five-five. And it's a year later, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Whatever. Whatever metrics you want to use. Even if you't met six fine give him two years at six and Really get an understanding and work with him and develop them And if he gets to be a 12 million dollar player, that means you're in love with him and you you Appreciate how he plays he's gonna do something special for your team but I think Again in their current construction, it's two forwards, two centers. They have to start making sure they look at the other parts
Starting point is 00:11:34 of their roster construction as well. And are they still in all in mode? Are they in all in mode? Are they trying to win now? If they're trying to win now, nobody cares about the first round picks. Nobody now if they're trying to win now nobody cares about the first round picks Nobody like we're trying to win now and are they still in that window depending upon how they spend the money who they're able to bring in
Starting point is 00:11:54 You know it'll be interesting to see and and then they can adjust and adapt and they don't have a cup They don't have first for the next couple years, so we'll see With Chris prongers, so you look at the Oilers going into game two tonight, special teams have been a big issue for them on the road. I mean, I don't want to overstate it. They're in the conference final and they lost one game, but their power play on the road hasn't been great and they give up three straight goals shorthanded the other night. You played on both sides of that like how person how do you how do you attack that tonight
Starting point is 00:12:26 and how how personally do you take it when you're someone that's killing penalties and given up goals are on the power play and not scoring them will you take a personally absolutely uh... you're not doing your job uh... on a number of fronts number one stay out of the box uh... number two job on a number of fronts. Number one, stay out of the box. Number two, if you're going to stand in the goalie's sight lines, you better block the shot. You better be diving
Starting point is 00:12:54 in front of shots. You better be a yard sale in trying to block these shots, which I did not see in game one. Whether that's the layoff, whether that's not understanding what they want to do from a technical standpoint, or maybe it's just a blood and guts thing, I don't know. But they need to sell out with respect to blocking shots in the penalty kill. They need to be more disciplined.
Starting point is 00:13:21 And Stuart Skinner needs to make the saves that he should make. And this one he got caught looking, standing in behind Nurse and Robertson. He looked late, never even saw it. If Darnell Nurse is going to stand there directly in front of the goalie, he's got to block the shot. Why is he standing there then? He should be standing off to the side.
Starting point is 00:13:47 If you're not going to block it, get out of the way. That's why he's standing there. I agree. I agree. I didn't think Skinner had his goods. I didn't think he was very good. I thought that their penalty kill stunk in their power play, didn't get it done. But in the end, what do you make of Edmonton's team compared to Dallas's?
Starting point is 00:14:07 I think Dallas is a really quality team and well-built. Is it just a matter of a response? For 40 minutes, to be honest, I thought Edmonton looked really good the first 40 minutes. It's just the third period Dallas came alive and really took it to them in the third. I've never seen, I haven't seen a comeback like that. I can't remember, five goals in the third period, especially against a team that seemed like it was complete control of the game. Yeah, until the first round with LA and Edmonton, except they didn't win.
Starting point is 00:14:44 They didn't win. Yeah, exactly. I'm with you, Noodles. I thought Edmonton controlled the play outside of the one little mistake when Dry Saddle lost the puck and Seguin went on the breakaway. For 40 minutes they dominated the game. They dominated offensive zone time. They were pretty slick and sharp in their own defensive zone and then they just got sideways with the penalties and they lost momentum and then once the snowball started going down the hill they couldn't get it under control and the grandland goal
Starting point is 00:15:20 was a beautiful shot I don't like personally I don't like, personally I don't like, Wallman when he goes down on the one knee like that to block a shot. I would rather him go out and close time and space. He's there, why not go the extra foot with your stick out and try to get in the lane? Robertson had just come across a flash screen. When you look from the angle behind the net,
Starting point is 00:15:45 the goalie cannot even see the puck when it's coming off a grand with stick. The one that I didn't like was the fourth goal. Duchenne's goal, Skinner was swimming in the net. He looked very discombobulated, very, what was kind of going in and around the crease. He got nudged, I don't even know if he got bumped then he lost sight of the puck and he was kind of swimming all over
Starting point is 00:16:10 in there you know it just to me he was worried about getting hit but it was his own player there so you know he's got to be sharper they just need to clean up a couple things that I really like their game if I if anything I'm I'm and I'm Dallas I need to clean up a couple things. I really like their game. If anything, and I'm Dallas, I want to clean up my game. Their defensemen did a very poor job in puck watching both Drisital and McDavid. They don't need to go out and hit them. They just need to stop staring at the puck and just get in the way. Just use their body to impede their progress. Don't those guys kind of make you do that a little bit though, prongs? Like they just, regardless of your level of talent as a demon, they kind of, they can make you
Starting point is 00:16:55 look stupid? Oh absolutely, but the issue was for two periods they kept stick checking and kept staring down at the puck. And we showed a couple of highlights, I was on the Sports Step broadcast, a couple of highlights from the year before when McDavid toe-dragged Haskinen and scored a beautiful goal. And listen, they're talented, they're going to score goals, they're going to highlight real goals and things of that nature. But at the end of the
Starting point is 00:17:25 day, if I'm Dallas, that's something that I can clean up and I can get better at. They can do a better job in their defensive zone. Otenger, I thought, played really well. He outplayed Skinner. I think when you're looking at the two on paper, you would expect that, but going off of the previous two series Edmonton just needs to tighten up just a little bit and I think it'll be a different result. With Chris Pronger how about in the east where Florida seemingly
Starting point is 00:17:54 is just getting stronger and stronger man and they like they walked in Carolina's been off for a while but you look at Florida their last four games on the on the road five and seven in Toronto one and two in Carolina It's crazy. It's like they're playing an expansion team. It's it's incredible what they're doing of these guys Do you see that like are they getting stronger and stronger? Is Carolina afraid of these guys like what do you make of the first two games? I? Don't think Caroline so in the the first two games i don't think carolina so in the the the first two series the carolina is a pressure team
Starting point is 00:18:30 are on you constantly costly on you they don't score a lot of goals they just throw pucks at the net they attack with bodies they don't ever calm anything down and really make plays and shoot the park with a purpose to score uh... against new jersey against was, their defense couldn't handle that pressure and they were constantly suffocating them with that pressure. Florida is actually doing it to them.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Their defense have closed the gap way up. They're going into the top of the circle, inside the top of the circle of Carolina's end, to really close the gap, force turnovers, playing physical, and Carolina doesn't have an answer to it. They don't know how to make plays in those situations. They're so used to being on the other side of it that they really look like they're struggling with that pressure. And then you add in the physical component that they can't match
Starting point is 00:19:28 And then just the the ability to be opportunistic Florida, you know up and down the lineup is able to score goals Whereas when you look at the statistics, Svechnikov really is the only guy who's been able to put the puck in the net at any any big clip over the last few years, so They're a meeting Carolina Carolina that is is a meat and potatoes team there you know what you're gonna get each and every night they're not they don't play a super skilled game but you know Florida has just run roughshod over them and you know they're they're firing on all
Starting point is 00:20:02 cylinders yeah they sure are man man. They are impressive. You look at, again, game six in Florida, the Leafs went down there, played a really strong game themselves and pushed Florida to the outside. For the last five games, they've just completely dominated possession, the tone of the game, the pace of the game. Like you said, they've overwhelmed them everywhere, like all over the ice. And I don't know. I mean, it feels like... And when you look at time on ice, if you look at time on ice, they're rolling four lines.
Starting point is 00:20:32 They're not just top six dominant. They've got all four lines rolling, all three sets of D. They're fresh. Well that's the luxury of being up, you get up three-0 in a game, you're like, why not? Like, we're going to play all these guys. What did you make of the Reinhardt, or the Ajo on Reinhardt hit? I didn't like it. But I mean, it, you know, if you're going to hip check a guy, hip check a guy, but he clips his knee, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:15 That could be a big loss. I don't like when guys go after knees, personally. Yeah, he got him. That's just me. Yeah, I hear you. I'm on board with that, too. I think we all sign up around the horn on that alright Prongs well we'll leave it there it's uh we'll see what comes out of it in Dallas tonight
Starting point is 00:21:35 and back in Florida tomorrow enjoy that enjoy the weekend great seeing you we always appreciate you doing this appreciate it thanks for having me mister Mr. You got it. Mr. Pronger joining us here, the hockey Hall of Famer himself. Yeah, that was a little greasy play there by Ajo and it didn't sound positive. Like, I guess they were going to wait to see what was going on today with Reinhardt. But I wouldn't be shocked if he didn't play tomorrow night. And there is nothing no penalty, no fine, no nothing on that play.
Starting point is 00:22:04 No, not that I've read. No, there's been some greasy plays, you know, and there's nothing no penalty. No fine. No nothing on that play. No not that I've read no There's been some greasy plays, you know like there's there's been some greasy plays in that series and Carolina's getting frustrated and there was a special the cough on Bobrowski early that was greasy Yeah, it was like he kind of did the old slap shot kind of shoulder down and he knew what he was doing the hip Yeah ahead. It was kind of looked like it and even last night's fetch the cup one after Kachuk like right in front of the bench and They're starting to lose it, you know, like Florida just does that to you man
Starting point is 00:22:35 They embarrass you and they lean on you and they they're chirping the whole time and and they like they do all that haze But they score. Yes The most like we talk about all these things and we break it down because that's part of the game And they do all that haze, but they score. We talk about all these things and we break it down because that's part of the game. But the biggest and most important thing is the gigantic score clock. And they get on it and they make sure that that's taken care of as well. They hit and they discipline and they structure and they pressure. But they rip home what they need to win.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And that's just the most important thing. Yeah Yeah, and there was that also I think it was Mikala on Jarvis last night like that. I think he's out to you Yeah, I'm like there. Yeah, so I mean if there's a game though, I think That was a bit close to greasy too. Like Jarvis was Yes, but it was like that could have easily Bobby Mac used to get somebody to freeze it and have a time frame where he would Like count down and that that had to have been close Yeah, and Mikala looked like he kind of elevated his kind of shoulder to the head and That's what you get man. I mean, Florida
Starting point is 00:23:40 They're not gonna stop doing that. They'll take a suspension especially now now up to nothing. Go ahead, suspend them for a game or two. They'll just move on without them. But it doesn't sound like that's going to happen anyway. Mail it in Friday. Brought to you by Boston Pizza, Canada's favorite sports bar. This playoff season, Boston Pizza is planning the parade and has an all new all-star playoff menu for you to enjoy. For pizza pints and puck drops visit your local Boston pizza
Starting point is 00:24:06 Today we've got our best bets coming up a little bit later in the hour Game two down in Dallas game two at the Garden Knicks Pacers tonight we got game one of a three game series down at the trot for the Jays and the Rays and Again, we'll get to our best bets and dear hazy B still to come as well overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. All right, best vets coming up later in the hour on game two. Oilers stars tonight. We'll get to Dear Hazy B in just a moment.
Starting point is 00:24:34 Doogie reminded me because just based on reflex, I throw out all the different parks and stadiums and rings. And I mentioned that the Jays are in Tampa playing at the TROP. But of course, the T you know had all that damage due to the hurricane and their plan at some like college stadium and it's amateur hour and I've read a couple of things about the players you know like off the record like I can't believe we're playing here man we're in're in the majors. And it happens, like it was a natural disaster, but the trop isn't great anyway. And if you're in Tampa, you got to be looking around thinking, what
Starting point is 00:25:15 are we doing here? Like what is going to happen in the future? You know, we don't have a lot of fan support. They keep talking about different buildings that are possibly going to get financed, possibly won't. Remember there were those reports years ago about them splitting between Montreal and Tampa Bay and they were looking to do that. You can't do that. They're not going to do that. Kids, schools, you're not...
Starting point is 00:25:38 Yeah. They're not doing that. But it's always weird when you see that. Even the Athletics are playing in Sacramento. When the Jays during COVID were playing in Buffalo, it's always weird when you see that. Like even like the athletics are playing in Sacramento. You know, like when the Jays during COVID were playing in Buffalo. I don't know how they put up with it, Hayes. It's just like if you're a player, like you say, look at the facilities that other, I did it. I played in Greensboro, North Carolina with a tarp around the top of it to block off the fans. And it's not a big deal We didn't complain about it that much but it was 85 miles one way 85 miles another way and the best part was the first couple years our
Starting point is 00:26:13 Practice rink was halfway to Greensboro So not only did we drive there and drive back the next day you're getting up and you're driving halfway to Greensboro the practice Rink and you're like this is a DNHL And if you're a guy that's a good player and you want to win and you've got your winning years ahead of you, why would you put up with it? You could easily say, I'm out of here. Get me out of here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember talking to Jeff Sanderson about that. He was saying it's such, it was crazy. Like you guys are in your car all the time. It felt like like that's it Our there our that bad used to go out the night before so
Starting point is 00:26:49 Monday like Sunday night go out for the Monday game then back Monday back up Tuesday night and then back with it was it was crazy, man Yeah, that was crazy. That would be tough. And you know this one again is It's understandable. You've got to make plans, but it is difficult when you go on the road and you see other teams. And for the most part, teams and pro sports are all investing a lot into practice facilities and all that, but this was a story Rick Tauke
Starting point is 00:27:19 obviously brought up when I was way out of Vancouver going to Philly, that I believe the Canucks are the only team in the league without a practice rink, which is crazy. Everyone else in the league has a practice rink. Remember back in the day with the Leafs, they would sometimes practice at St. Mike's and there would be days where they were at, what was the rink that they always used to practice at? Now I'm blanking on it.
Starting point is 00:27:45 But it was an old barn, it was an old rink, and you knew they were down there. The Leafs? Yeah, the Leafs. Lakeshore Lions Arena. Lakeshore Lions, that's what it was. So they'd be at Lakeshore Lions Arena, then you'd hear, oh, they're at St. Mike's, like the Leafs are practicing at St. Mike's Arena. You know, and that's the way it used to be.
Starting point is 00:28:01 You'd have to go, and you'd practice at at the gardens. You practice all over the place. That's what I couldn't figure out when I got here. I'm like, yeah, I didn't like it was a great practice ring. I'm like, what do you need from a practice ring? But you think you hear all the stories, Maple Leafs, this and that. And you're like, this is a practice ring? Yeah. Like, how do you not have your own spot built?
Starting point is 00:28:19 Well, obviously now they're dialed in and they've got this state of the art, but it was like it wasn't adding up before. No and again Vancouver's doesn't have that like they're playing at the equivalent of the Lakeshore Lions arena practicing. Isn't it like eight rinks like they're I think they're at like a it's a multiplex like eight rinks where other people are there. That's tough. It just public space.
Starting point is 00:28:40 It is tough because. But you just need like you need someone to bulldoze part of it and put the did the dressing room and that's what you need is that everyone can have a sheet of ice just as everything else has to be dialed in. Yeah, you got to have the gym you got to have the stuff for rehabbing you got like there's you know you got to have your own own space is what you got to have if you're a professional athlete. Well, you know, it's funny though, like when I played in St. Louis, the rink is downtown, but the practice rink is in Chesterfield, like which is 30 minutes, 40, like 30 minutes, 40 minutes the other way, right? Like, I don't know how you get
Starting point is 00:29:17 or how you felt, oh, but even Hayes, I don't know what happened in junior, but you get guys that go to the wrong rink. They would have to remind people, like, hey, we're at practice rink or we're practicing downtown tomorrow. Guys, remember that because some idiot would get out of bed and drive to the practice rink and we're actually on our main rink. Honestly, I loved the big rink. It was like that's where all your stuff is and it was like it's an NHL. I just love being at the big rink every time But we was if I never understood like the Habs
Starting point is 00:29:48 I don't know why they have their morning skates out in Brassard. Brassard Yeah, like downtown is like that's where the vibe is and that's I used to love just the vibe of morning skate It's like you're going to a place to get you know to warm up and that it's going down at that building tonight I always found morning skates at a practice rink to be weird We're going to a place to warm up and it's going down at that building tonight. I always found morning skates at a practice rink to be weird. I don't know why, I just do. It is. I mean, I used to do it like with the New York Rangers, their practice rink's in Rye.
Starting point is 00:30:16 You only go and play games at the garden. You rarely go to morning skates. The garden's a different beast. They have so many events and everything. Right, right. But in Florida, for example, the Panthers, you would see, like the Leafs would practice at the main rink and the Panthers, they're practicing out at their practice rink and then they just go for the game. Like sometimes it's a setup and I don't mind it. You just have
Starting point is 00:30:36 to be sharp as a player. Like I'm not joking. I feel like I went one time to like out to Chesa Field and the practice was there and you're driving a million miles an hour because you're afraid to be late for practice. Terrified, huh? Crazy. Yeah, you would be terrified. And it's an honest mistake, but still you're not going to get any credit for it. Like they're going to say you're a dopey idiot. You weren't listening.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Your nose up on the whiteboards on you. What were you doing last night? Exactly. Sounds like a dear hazy beat. Let's fire this up. Yeah. What were you doing last night? Sounds like a Dear Hazy B. Let's fire this up. Yes. People send in a tweet. They write us for our professional advice on life things.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Dear Hazy B. Every morning my boiler has a gas leak. My wife thinks it's the baby. Dear Hazy B. If you want to come to Hazy B, I need honesty from you. Hazy, you got dumped a lot. Tell them. Tell them. Growing adults with birthdays
Starting point is 00:31:26 it's asin brought to you by boston pizza canada's favorite sports bar this playoff season boston pizza is planning the parade and has a new all-star playoff menu for you to enjoy for pizza pints and puck drops visit your local boston pizza today we've had a fair amount of Dear Hazy B type scenarios. I think, you know, do you call someone mister, right? Out of respect.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I think that was something we've talked a lot about today. I can't believe of all the things that you just got stuck on. I have my own Dear Hazy B. By the way, if anyone at Islington, Lambton, St. George's, anyone's teeing it up at like 6.30 tomorrow morning, let me know. I'll pay my own way. Uh oh. What happened? Your track's...
Starting point is 00:32:10 I called my course and I was like, hey, there's a lottery system and the guys just hung up the phone, didn't put me in it, so I'm not golfing tomorrow. So if anybody wants to tee it up around the area... That's disappointing. That is disappointing. All right, let's get the O-Dog out somewhere. Come on. Yeah, I'll pay my own way and I'll play for 100 bucks.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Oh, a little action. Let's keep in mind hedog out somewhere. Come on. Yeah, I'll pay my own way and I'll play for a hundred bucks He's got his own keep in mind. He's got his own rules though. He goes ahead in his own cart Is it other things that come with it? Yeah for sure I'll throw that in there if you're all walkers probably not I'm not the guy would you call a mister though? That's the question. Yeah, I mean I'll still play with you, but I go in the cart. I ride in the cart. Okay, okay Let's get you out there man. Let's find something for the o-dog tomorrow morning. All right. What do you have for us? Speaking of golf dear hazy B I play with the same three guys and we have matches and one of the guys in my group is my best friend Sad to inform you that in the woods last Sunday. I caught my best friend. Sad to inform you that in the woods last Sunday I caught my best friend
Starting point is 00:33:06 cheating at golf. He dropped a ball and I watched it and he denied it in the cart and I haven't said a thing. How on earth do I bring this back up to him and do I inform the group of what I saw? Wow, the ultimate infraction, man. The ultimate infraction, the breaking of the code. From this note this guy sent me, it sounds like, you know how they joke about all the ball in the pocket, ball in the sock? That's what he saw.
Starting point is 00:33:37 Yeah. He does not know how to handle it. And I'm sure he saw it. Not only did he drop the ball, but in a perfect line, with a perfect sight line out of the trees Hey, it's not just seeing that it makes you wonder How many other things has this guy pulled? Well the answer is many. Yes, that's the answer because if you're comfortable doing that I'm assuming there's money on the line
Starting point is 00:34:01 I mean this is where you know There is a difference between if you're all out just having a good time and t-shirts and shorts and messing around, it's still not, you know, you might want to call them on it, you're probably going to goof on them. But if you're serious golfers and it's like, all right, what's your cap?
Starting point is 00:34:16 And we're playing for money. You can't have that because the guy's going to grease you at some point. Like, you know it's coming. That's right, it's got to be in your head, oh, the teams are flipped around and you're on the other team now going into the woods with a towel trick. Like you know it's coming. That's right, it's got to be in your head, all the teams are flipped around and you're on the other team now going into the woods with a towel trick.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Oh, that's very funny. Exactly, like where do you draw the line on that? You know, if everyone else is on the other side of the fairway, the old, hey, I'm just going to make sure I get a good lie here. Like I think this guy, you catch him doing it once, there's no telling how far he'd go. So it's mandatory you approach him.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Mandatory. It's got to happen. And now you've got to be prepared. Is it approach him and say, you've got to come clean with everybody and tell them what you did or you're out of the group? I don't think you have to go that far because I think what you're risking is losing your friendship here. I mean, this could be very explosive, like very explosive, because if he gets his back up against the wall
Starting point is 00:35:06 and comes back swinging, then it gets ugly. So I would do him the favor of saying, listen, we're gonna keep it between the two of us for your sake, but I got my eyes on you, and next time it happens, in other words, it can't happen or you're gonna be outta here. I mean, I just think you gotta have, it's a tough chat though, man. It is, man. Best friend, greasy move. Yeah, you know, there's money on the line. It's golf. Everyone's keeping scores
Starting point is 00:35:30 The caps are supposed to be dialed in. I don't know man So that's a greasy greasy play because it's got to be the honor code out there has to be you can't follow everybody all around the course Yeah, call them out and come smart enough call them out personally, don't do it to the rest of the crew. That's your play. Yeah. Dear Hazy B, months back I informed you of a good friend in our friend group who usually dated missiles only.
Starting point is 00:35:56 He then started bringing around someone much older than him and the exact age is he's 28 and she's 63. Wow. The reverse Belichick. Yes. and the exact age is he's 28 and she's 63. Wow. The reverse bellichick. Yes, he has informed us that an engagement is coming. Is this the right play and how do we support this? Are you okay with the age or is it age just a number?
Starting point is 00:36:21 Well, I would say- So this guy not only brought his new friend around he is now going for it Yeah, this is an officially a reverse Belichick according to TMZ. Yeah, 63 28 difference That's a 35 year Age gap, that's no massive. That is a massive. I would say I think you know if I can recall back then, it was kind of like, hey, you can probably let your buddy know this is getting a little bit funky or a little bit,
Starting point is 00:36:54 I don't know, maybe this doesn't seem consistent with the way you generally operate. I think you're right to do that and say that six months ago. I think now you're out, man. Like I'm saying, if there's an engagement and say that six months ago, I think now you're out, man. Like I'm saying, if there's an engagement and all that, you have no right to say you can't get engaged. I mean, you gotta shut up and just be like, all right, where are we going on the bachelor party?
Starting point is 00:37:16 You know? Where's she going on her bachelorette? That's what I wanna know. Where is she going to party? Shady acres. Where is she going to party? Shady acres. know where she acres where she go acres possibly possibly that I think it's a note I don't know about you noodles but I think you got a bite you just got you got to say hey that's
Starting point is 00:37:36 awesome love is in the air can't wait good for you congrats rockin man who cares you let it rip and see how it goes. Go have a great time, why not? Support your friend, honestly if he's happy and they're happy, so be it. And then if it doesn't work out, you go, hey, remember when you married that older lady? In the end, support your friend and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm sure she doesn't act 63 or maybe he's a 60 year old, 28 year old, who knows? Something's working for them. Maybe he demands to be called mister, you never know, maybe he's a 60 year old 28 year old who knows something's working for maybe demands to be called mister You know you never know maybe he's a little bit hard What that marriage?
Starting point is 00:38:10 What's that? What's that party gonna look like the wet like cuz you know we all went to weddings when we're in our 20s It was insane Yeah, you know parties and bands you'd be buckled all day be up all night. They're throwing people in the air Yeah, like I don't I don't know it feels like you'd be up all night. They're like throwing people in the air. Yeah Like I don't I don't know it feels like it'd be a very different subdued look Wedding what if all her friends are like older and then I would have you got a total Presume that your case. Yeah, I would I would guess that's the case, but hey who knows man. Love is in the air You got to shut your yap, right? Just just
Starting point is 00:38:43 But hey, who knows man? Love is in the air. You got to shut your yap Right. Just just Sit there and nod and say good for you. This is great stuff. I love it. This one's pertaining to today Yeah, dear hazy B I've seen numerous people in the past come out and say Winning is the only option for the Toronto Maple Leafs Tell me why and how I could believe Keith Pelly in what he said that he can make a difference. What can he do? Man, I don't really have a good answer for you and that's what is terrifying about this.
Starting point is 00:39:18 What he said today, I've actually heard the same thing five times. Yeah, exactly. It was very, you know, good isn't good enough. We're here to win. We owe it to our fans. Like, yeah, we get it. Well, not the wrong messaging, but also one that is very hollow over time. Like we get it. Of course, that's your plan. Everyone says the same thing. I've got an answer, though. I think Keith Pelley should support do exactly like get out of the way and let like what you do is if he believes that Brad Tree Living is the right general manager and Craig Barube is the right, let them do their jobs because that's the biggest thing that we've like I've noticed it through pro sports. We talk about it every day.
Starting point is 00:39:57 How many times have ownership and boards and that can't help themselves to get in the way instead of going we put you in this position, I'm going to trust that you do the right thing. I think the best thing Keith Pelly can do is be a great support system for the hockey ops people. And yes, they've got a lot to clean up there. I think they have 150 people that work there or whatever. I believe it came out and talked about how much, if you're gonna streamline it a little bit,
Starting point is 00:40:26 but just be focused and say, Tree, I trust you to go do your job, go do your job. And if he doesn't do it, then everybody, there's a pecking order, he gets held accountable. I just feel like it's paralysis by over analysis sometimes when you have way too many resources. Everybody's got too many resources. Everybody's got too many cooks in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Yeah, I agree. I think that's ultimately what needs to be said. If you're having a conversation with Keith Pelly, it's hold people accountable and actually prove that you have just an absolute kind of manic approach to winning. Like you're obsessed with winning. And you know that, ultimately you're not gonna sell that at a press conference, you know, to be fair to him. And I remember, and I've referenced this before,
Starting point is 00:41:14 when Shanahan was hired in Reveal, there was very subdued, and there were a lot of cliches, and it wasn't over the top, and it wasn't rah rah. And I remember when Brian Burke got hired, and he had the greatest press conference of all time yes they'll name schools after us yes and that and it's like everybody says i've been i've been an expert and they all are and they all want to try to bring their expertise to the situation
Starting point is 00:41:35 and take their lessons learned in the past and try to apply it it's just none of its worked that's the best that's where this skepticism comes from people with a like i've literally since 2004 or 2005 heard that five times from different people. So why would anyone believe you? And honestly, actions are clearly going to speak louder than words. And it's on Pelly
Starting point is 00:41:59 because he's overseeing the whole thing. Rappers are not in a good place. Toronto sees a disaster and has been for a few years. And as far as the Leafs go, Brian, and they keep going back to this, and it's a valid point. It's factual. I don't know what resources do for the Toronto Maple Leafs. What does that do? You're going to get all these pencil necks that do the stats
Starting point is 00:42:22 and have an analytics team of 300 people? What does that do? Well, what does the resources mean in a cap era? I gotta get players in there I guess what we talked about with the You know facilities The ability to supply different things that maybe other teams can't what I think there's well I'm talking about, you know You always talk about it like guys say they show up at certain teams and there's like fruit on the table the leafs show up and there's a five course meal
Starting point is 00:42:50 for breakfast. Okay. Well if you're gonna get a vegetarian omelet with a side of turkey bacon if that makes you play better in game five and seven prove it Yeah, and it doesn't though. That's what I'm saying. I got that's why I asked the question Those are the resources that you know, they spend, they can do stuff like that, first class this, four seasons instead of a holiday and all that kind of stuff. But it hasn't been worth anything because the players still look at it and say, okay, I want 13 million. It hasn't mattered because the players haven't actually appreciated it They still demand every penny and they still go out there and fall flat the biggest moments So to answer your question, they're meaningless, you know, they're meaningful if you win, you know looking Florida everyone these guys ride
Starting point is 00:43:35 They're they're you know golf carts to probably all that kind of stuff if they're dead last in the league No one cares about your golf cart story. It's not interesting, right? You know, it's your losers like good for you your one cares about your golf cart story. It's not interesting. It's your losers. Good for you, your losers driving around in your golf carts. Now they're winners driving around in their golf carts in a great facility and how awesome it is. That's how you define the resources. It's in retrospect.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Did they pay off or not? Did you win or not? We'll see. All right, there you go. Dear Hazy B, come back with our best bets. T right. There you go. Dear hazy B Come back with our best bets tee up a busy weekend overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on the TSN app All right today's best bets powered by Fandreau make your picks and assemble a same-game parlay on seconds on the Fandreau sportsbook app I have a four leg same-game parlay for the oiler game tonight. I'm going big game hunting Oilers win other game tonight I'm going big game hunting. Oilers win. McDavid two points, Dry Settle two points, Hyman two points. All the big boys come to play tonight
Starting point is 00:44:29 they're all rocking that's paying plus $12.42 that's a huge payout. Multiple points for each? All of them tonight. Yes. I've never heard that. I love it tonight I could see I think the Oilers come out flying I think they. I could see I think the oil has come out flying. I think they respond I could see a 5-2 win and if there's five goals on the board I feel good about McDavid and dry subtle getting there Hyman I think so too. I think Hyman's gonna be in the mix tonight. I saw a stat this morning He's throwing more hits than anyone else in the playoffs Zach Hyman. Yeah All right
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