OverDrive - OverDrive - May 26, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

Hour 2: Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O’Neill, and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 of OverDrive! ESPN Hockey Analyst Ray Ferraro joined the show to discuss where Leon Draisaitl should rank among the best players in the NHL, what makes Evan Bouchard so special, and how Mitch Marner leaving could impact Auston Matthews. The guys then discussed athletes taking time off after their seasons end, followed by debating whether or not Calvin Pickard will get back in the Oilers crease in the latest edition of Something to Chew On, brought to you by Boston Pizza.

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continuing tonight the NBA playoffs continuing what a comeback by the Knicks yesterday man yeah what they were dead in the water down by 20 at this you know at points in the first half they're down by twenty and you know carl anthony towns twenty points in the fourth quarter he was in foul trouble to brunson was in foul trouble in play a ton in the fourth quarter and they found a way to to battle back and win that now it was so necessary because you look at you

you look at everything like in the n.h.l panthers i think they probably sweep tonight but it's probably done in five. The Dallas Edmonton series, that should be a good series. I still think that that's gonna go six or seven. But in the NBA, like Oklahoma City and Minnesota have just been three blowouts in a row, and I think the Thunder are gonna win that.

And if the Pacers were just gonna cruise to their win over the Knicks, it would be awful. Like you just have a collection of four conference finals between the two leagues and none of them were really meeting the billing so the next you know i agree that the is this is kind of the wall i mean they have the excitement at the beginning in a kind of goes into a lack of a little ball man big-time big-time and and you know sometimes we get into the conversation about t v and

t v executives and how people feel like in Indiana Oklahoma City NBA finals and It's like well It won't be reflected in the numbers because if you get like a Nick number as opposed to a Pacer number dude It's massive swing man. Yeah, like you don't think that like no rangers none of that exactly Pittsburgh Philadelphia you don't think that's affected the hockey viewership numbers it's so obvious like you see people fall and I get it these are real numbers but the ratings are

down but when you don't have Boston or New York or Chicago or Detroit or Pitt yeah you know you're gonna you're gonna get hit. If this was the New York Rangers versus the Boston Bruins conference final, outrageous numbers. Yes, exactly. And the truth is, Florida, Edmonton, for American audiences, won't be great. It'll be incredible up here.

It should be great if you're a hockey fan because you got a repeat, you got a team that is on the verge of becoming a dynasty or a modern one. You know, everyone's got a different definition of how you would define a dynasty, but if you go to a cup three straight years, you're knocking on the door, and McDavid and Dry Cytle back in a cup final.

And like I find myself openly rooting for McDavid to win one, because it just opens the door for so many different conversations about his career and about what he's chasing and where he goes in terms of rankings and all that kind of stuff. And he's got a contract looming, you know, he might look at it differently if he's got a ring under his belt. Now let's not put the cart before the horse, they're up 2-1. Hey, Ryan Rashad wouldn't allow us to do that. We don't want

to do something Shogger would be upset about. Maybe rail start turning us up to yeah i mean we we we were you know but the cover for the horse uh... after game five these panthers but yeah and what you know what you had a good comeback because they proved everybody and everyone was only just a five as they got done in the game seven years so it's like you, game six was a reprieve, but then game seven was a...

It was worse. It was worse. It was even worse. Here's Ray Ferraro, our ESPN hockey analyst joining us on the Maple Toyota Hotline. What's happening, Ray? So you just had Rashad on, right? Was he complaining about his travel date yesterday?

Not yet. He was complaining about everything else and us being at the forefront was complaining about us yeah he went on he went on our in our group text for the our podcast he went on a he laid out his whole day two-hour delay flight with weather another hour and a half they had to go to some other place they had to stay overnight so i just asked i'm like um did you get any extra miles and and drager asked him could have been avoided if he would have planned better and he was so disappointed that nobody was supporting him so we took the wrath of that because yeah shagr was he was ready to rock today, man It was great. He was awesome. Like he was he was firing on all cylinders. It was amazing and

Listen, he has the luxury of covering I'd say the two best players in the world like I'm curious where you stand on that McDavid is a foregone conclusion But yeah, I feel like we do this every year ray like we dry subtle in particular You know we do our list in September and, like with dry-subtle in particular. We do our list in September and it's like, I think I'll put McKinnon there, justified, I get it. Or maybe I'll put McCarr there and then I get to the playoffs and I'm like, no, dry-subtle is two.

Like dry-subtle I think is number two and I think he probably should be. I don't know how you can easily slot any of those guys because if you're when I think of it it's it's not just skill and ability it's you know like they're like the reason I think McKinnon separates himself is because he's got he's got a little bit of a killer in him and I think and dry saddle does for sure like I think it's a separating feature for him. I think he's, I don't know that I would pick McKinnon in front of him. I don't know that I would.

Like it would be close. There's nobody, like even a couple years ago you were, or not you guys, we were discussing like would you take Matthews or Drisidle? And for me it's not- It's conversation and it's not you it isn't anymore no he is he'll walking around casperi cappan and the key the silly put cold and right now he's answered linemates

for team goals this year and and he comes back to the bench sometimes and i can just see it like you if you're that close you know you can read a guy's face where the puck like hits his ankle or Should be passed to him and isn't and yet they're about I think this is really Admirable about them like they're about the win this year. This is the best way to line up a Get him and McDavid together. Sometimes he goes out sometimes with Hyman or Perry. Like they work around what their lineup is and isn't and they just plow ahead.

He buries his frustration. He doesn't wear it out on his sleeve as much as he used to. I think he's an amazing player. McDavid's at another level. But what he did yesterday is he takes a couple of breaks and turns them into a one-way race. Anybody trying to get anywhere near him, he went around Thomas Harley like Harley dad, his skates on the wrong feet.

It was crazy how fast he was. And then he's got two goals yesterday, right? Does anyone think he's going to get through the whole series and not score? Like no chance. Yeah. Ray, what do you make of this team? A month ago, it didn't start well against the LA Kings. LA looked like they were a team to be reckoned with. I mean, they couldn't get a save. They didn't look. They looked disjointed. You know, Kane was trying to settle in.

Frederick couldn't skate. And you mentioned the guys who, you know, Kaepernick I think was a healthy stretch. It looked like a mismatch and all of a sudden, you know, a month later, the team looks different. What do you make of the big transformation? I'm a little stunned to be honest with you. Even though they had lost the two games on the road, and we probably all reacted because it looked so ugly, but they hadn't lost at home yet, right, to LA. Except now they're going to go to Pickerton goal and oh my gosh, what are they going to

do there? How's that going to work? And then he wins six straight games and the depth of their team which was never a strength carried them through the through the first two rounds like that like again Drice or McDavid had three goals like somebody had to be scoring and Kane had four and Connor Brown has four. They were, you know, Newton Hawkins only had a couple though. Like the guys that were supposed to score hadn't but everybody else did. So I was quite surprised but right now they look every bit like Florida does on the other side. They look like they're just anything

they need they can dial it up. They've been outplayed in this series in one period and that was the second period yesterday where they ended up tying the period when McDavid got the late goal. Like game one, they gave up five goals but they were on the power play. Like three were power playing, one was an empty netter. Like I don't even really count that. This has been almost a dominant series for them. I mean, I know it's 2-1, but Jamie, I can't even really explain why it's so good, but there is at some point, I think we got Eric knowledge, like Knobloch knows what he's doing back there.

He adjusts and changes lines and moves people in and out and he's got courage. I mean he's going back and forth and goal kind of like whatever the gut feel is and for two years he's got it all right. Ray, can you break down what you see from this Bouchard out there on the ice? He's a fascinating guy like the trip like the transition he made from those first couple games in Los Angeles where we were doing breakdowns and Hayes was just beside him so all of us were we were like it's either like yeah it was a gong show and now he looks like the guy behind him on the bench Paul Coffey. I love the guy. I'm handing him

the cash. I love him. Well, okay, so even go back a little further. How many times this regular season do you watch him and you're like, does he understand? He's got to keep going. And the guys go right past him and he just kind of waves at him and,'re like, and he just kind of like waves at him and you know, it doesn't didn't really work that time or whatever it is. Then he, he, he does his thing in the playoffs. This is two years in a row where it's like he's at a completely other level. Like how does he do that?

How does he go in and out like that? He's clearly very talented for sure, but I do think he's got a brain for the game. He's an excellent passer. McDavid and Dreisaitl, I think this is really important. We all know sometimes you don't want certain people on the ice because they can't pass or they can't get you the puck when you need it. McDavid and Dryside will want Bouchard on the ice with them. So he's going to get the cash, he's going to get a big payday.

There's no way around it. I would have said he was like a stat mirage last year until the playoffs and then he played like 24 minutes a game and had an amazing playoff and he's done the same this year. Like it's not it's not false. Like it I just don't understand like how he's gone so far on the outside of what would be good play to this. Like he's he's a dominant player right now. With Ray Ferraro and you mentioned McDavid on a different level. Let me fast forward a year from now where he scores the game winner in the four nations face off that turned into a much bigger

and significant tournament than I think anyone thought he would. Let's say they win the Stanley Cup this year. If they do, he's probably winning the cons mightthe and then he mixes in a gold for Canada next year. I know that's a lot but it's definitely feasible. This time next year how are we looking at his legacy? Like what could McDavid, if he gets those achievements, what does it do for him in terms of the all-time list? Well it just speeds up him becoming the greatest player of all time, I think. I understand you know you have to win to be in that you know the Mount Rushmore of players but again it's not a

like if his goalie stinks what's he gonna do about it? Like you know he can't do anything about that if they didn't have you what's he going to do about it? Like, you know, he can't do anything about that. If they didn't have, you know, if he went to the consmites again this year and they lose in game seven again, if they get to the finals, like what else is he going to do about that? So I have a tough time with the legacy stuff because I understand why winning has to be a part of it, but it's not basketball, right? It's not like one player can impact everything about the game. We know it's different, yet I just think, I just don't think there's any way that we will look at him anywhere other than in one of the greatest players of all time. Whether wins or losses or whatever,

what you laid out though, Brian, I think speeds along that discussion. Yeah, I would agree with that. I think the way I've always looked at winning in terms of these conversations is it shouldn't hurt you if you don't have it, but it should help you if you do, if that makes sense. Like I think you should look at Gretzky and Orrin Howe and whoever you're competing with

and say, well, they have them, so you got to give them credit for that because they obviously factored into that. I just think, I guess what we're saying is once you get a cop, especially in this era with so many more teams, and if you get a gold medal, which he hasn't had the ability to even chase because they haven't done best on best in his career it I think it just opens the door for that like all of a sudden it's like all right well he's done that he's done this you want to cons might when they didn't even win it or when they didn't even win the cup then you can really have that chat it's like is he

better than Gretzky is he better than Lemieux is it which is pretty incredible when you think about it because that seemed like an impossibility ten years ago and I'm not sure we ever had that chat with Sid. Like I don't know if we really talked about Crosby as yes he can legitimately pass Gretzky on that list. I don't think we did. I don't think we did but Crosby's a really great name to add to this discussion because all of his serial winning has just done nothing but impact his legacy along with his great play.

Right. All of it. Back to the World Junior and the two cups and the Olympic gold and the Golden goal and you know, like whatever he's been in, there's not a tournament he's been in that he hasn't won. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And that like is, that just doesn't work like that.

There's got to be something to your legacy because you can be, if you are a serial winner, which of course Sid is. But the number of points, like when we talk about all these volume of goals, like the number is just like it's mind boggling and McDavid's going to get up into that range in the points, in the points, say somewhere along the line because there was a, there's that thing you see in McDavid, like that internal like drive and engine and that all those great guys have,

there there's lots of great players. and when you're at that level, the ones that have that extra, I don't know, they just get to these crazy numbers. And I think Connor will, I would be stunned if he's not there when it's all said and done. Ray, more stunning for you, Stuart Skinner's win-loss record and the actual record when he does win and when he does lose, or John Klingberg averaging almost 20 minutes a night on a second pairing. I mean, what's more stifling for you?

Well, I'm going to say Skinner because when he had when he now he's four and four But when he had three wins and they were all shutouts and the four losses he gave up 20 goals That's one of my favorite stats that I've seen in a long time like how could that even be like? Like and they we had a little graph in the game about the wins and losses It was it was comical to look at. So I'm going to say him, but I'd like to know who Klingberg's surgeon is because he skates so much differently than he did just even a year ago, or a year and a half ago. And so, you know, to get, you know, that's a, those are big procedures that he had done. And they were, they were hoping that,

they were hoping that he was gonna be okay for them. And he's, as you say, he's been way better than that. And just think in either game four or game five, they're gonna get Ekholm back. Right. And now they've got that much more depth. Like that. So he's playing, him and Jake Wallman play together. They don't have to change anything. Really. They'll drop Kulak to nurse, a nurse's pair and Stetcher will probably come out and he's done a great job.

And then they'll put Ekholm with Bouchard because they always play together. And you're like, geez, look at that defense all of a sudden. and then they'll put at home with blue shard correct they always play together and you're like chief look at look at that the print all of a fact yet's it's it's worked out pretty well it's it's rolling in edmonton uh... on the other side of the rock it was wild in their life yesterday on the pop like when mcdavid scored on that three on one it was unbelievable here and i don't think the oilers fans waited to get into the sauce for 1pm.

The 1pm start. They were into the heroin beer at about noon yesterday in Alberta. I get back to the hotel. I'm back in Vancouver. I flew home for the day. So I go back to the hotel to change and this guy comes into the elevator. And I can see he's got a couple of wobbles to him and then right behind him is his wife and his two daughters and they're young, the kids are like you know five and seven, something like that and he's like, hey, Ferraro, we're in this elevator.

The guy is totally lubricated and I'm like, oh, the wife must be so happy. I love it. She's probably thinking, well, it's a to one p m start thank god he's gonna actually take it easy here and you know now that's not gonna happen uh... so it appears is a for the fourth time in the last six years believes

pushed the eventual cup finalist is seven in the series in which they played them twenty nineteen against boston twenty one against the house twenty two against tampa now this year against florida uh... we haven't had you on since yummy new sought that that the bottle the game seven debacle the way they play the aftermath now shanna hands out uh... when you see what florida's doing a carolina does it change your

impression at all where do you stand on beliefs uh... a week removed from what we witnessed? No, it doesn't change it because you can only play who you're playing, right? And like they have the unfortunate circumstance of being in the same division as those guys. And so that's just the way it is. If you say you weren't and you got through this round and you had to play them in the next round, it's just the way it is. I think we talked enough this year, like I thought they were a different team,

a better equipped team, and maybe in some ways they were to do well in the playoffs. Unfortunately, you can't make the other guys not try. They're better. They're just a, they're the best team. Like as a team, they are the best. Like they're, do they not look, I mean, a week might tell you a different story, but right now they look unstoppable. They're like a steamroller. And so I do think though, if you chase what other teams are, it's a race you can never win. Like if you're looking at Florida and saying, we've got to change our team so we can beat

Florida. Well, what if you make a bunch of changes and then Florida loses next year somehow or whatever happens, and now you're playing somebody else and you're not equipped to play them. I think you just build the best team you can. You put together the most balanced team that you can possibly put together. You hope you're healthy and you run that because if you're chasing somebody else, you'll never have the same players. You could get someone that looks like Barkov that has the same number of points, the same players. You could get someone that looks like Barkov, that has the same number

of points, the same size, but he's not Barkov. You can't replicate players. You can kind of get close to them, but if you're chasing them, I think you always lose. You can have a goal about, hey, we want to get closer to this or that in the way we structure our team but it really doesn't I mean it doesn't make me think of the Leafs any different other than it just couldn't quite they had two chances it's not game seven they had two chances really and and they fell flat on their face at home both times yeah exactly game five you take control again you up 3-2 and they didn't do that. And then we know what happened in game seven and I'm sure you're not surprised. You know, the Shanahan News came down. I think everyone was kind of anticipating that. But to your

point, you know, about chasing Florida, here it feels like a foregone conclusion. Marner's going to leave. You know, it feels that way. I'm not 100% convinced that's gonna happen, but it feels that way. Feels like Tavares is gonna return. And yet it's now the Sam Bennett show, maybe you gotta get Ekblad, can you bring Marshand up here? Like that's kinda what people in Toronto wanna see,

is basically go pluck from Florida and see if you can do it again next year. Yeah, well maybe they could get Forsling too. Yes, that would be great and bob yeah i mean if what you're what you're working away at the thing it i think this year is uh...

is trying to be a like a late june early july trade-a-thon because there's there's not a lot of free agents that like sam bennett's gonna fit there and like i think people need to remember when they're signing them to a eight, nine, $10 million contract, whatever he's going to get, he's going to get in and man, I'd want him on my

team, but he's not a 40 goal guy. And sometimes you're best in the place that you already are. Like if Sam Bennett comes to a different team, is he going to fit the same way? Probably, but what if he doesn't? What if you're looking for something he's not really able to deliver? So there's very few centers. There's a marginal class, I would say, of free agents. And so I think with so many teams trying to make a step, make a change, that they're, we're primed to see some really interesting trades this summer. Like I think that's where

the action is going to be, not so much the free agents. Of course, Bennett and Eklat are free agents and if they're not going back there, well, there's going to be two teams that are, or one team if Yeah, somebody could figure it all out That would be really happy to get them, but they might not be the same player like that team in Florida to me It looks like everybody's slotted exactly where they should be Yeah, do you think that's a rarity? Do you think that could apply to Marner? In other words, you go somewhere else and it's not The same guy I mean he's been riding with Matthews and Tavares and that power place stacked. You think there's a chance he looks or feels different somewhere else?

Oh, I don't see how he wouldn't. I mean, the whole circumstance, if he goes somewhere else, will be different, right? The external expectations, you know, the familiarity wherever he goes, it won't be there, both for him and for the city that he might be in. I think a lot changes for him. It'll be really weird and really odd for him if he's in a different jersey. But there's probably, if he does decide to go that way or already has decided whatever it is, there'll be a, I think part of it will be that it'll be pretty freeing for somebody that's that good that could make that much of a difference somewhere else. So just piggybacking that, if Marner, we talk about Marner leaving, I remember having this argument with Steve Koulis years ago on that's hockey tonight and I just

wanted to apply it here because when Marty St. Louis left Tampa I remember saying to him Stephen Stamkos will never get 60 again because I Stamkos got an unbelievable passes from St. Louis how much much of a trickle down effect Marner leaving would have on Matthew's production potentially? Well it depends what they fill it with, right? Because don't forget, eventually when Marty left, that opened the door for Kucharoff. And in that power play thing, so all of a sudden you got Oh, you got a pretty damn good guy giving them the puck Like what if what if you find somebody that that fits there? Maybe he's not the same maybe they play a little different style maybe

No, I don't know. Maybe it's just a change. Like those guys became joined at the hip and In a lot of cases, it's hard to even imagine somebody else being there except it happens almost all the time to almost every player. Like very few guys play their whole career or you know with the same with the same line mates or the same D pair. It just doesn't happen. Even Gretz. Gretz was with Curry forever and then he went to LA and all of a sudden Bernie Nichols had 70 goals. mates of the same D pair. It just doesn't happen. Even Gretz. Gretz was with Curry forever and then he went to LA and all of a sudden Bernie Nichols had 70 goals. Like somebody else is going to be the beneficiary of that. If Marner goes somewhere else, whoever he's

going to play with is going to find the puck on his stick a lot that probably hasn't been used to getting it there. And maybe Matthews, I'd still like to know whatever, whatever was going on with him this year, because that didn't look right. Right. For him. Like when I look at Matthews, I think like he didn't skate the same. He didn't have the same pace to his game. And the numbers weren't the same. Like it just didn't look right. And maybe it changes best for all. Like, you know, like it just didn't look right and maybe a change is best for all. Like a new line made a new look at things, like maybe it is best, but it's hard to walk away from a hundred points but eventually you don't win. And if the goal is that they're to win, which Keith

Pelley said pretty clearly that's the goal, that at some point there's got to be a change You can't keep saying oh, you know so-and-so didn't win for 11 years, sir You know whatever they bring up with Iserman except the team completely changed around him in that time and In this we're talking about the same core of the team and that in my mind that's different. Yeah, exactly It wasn't four guys with Isom and it was just him, you know, for the most part. They were back. When Steve came in they were back. Yeah, but man they got good. They got really good. By the end they

were really really good. Hey, can I tell you one thing about McDavid that makes no, that doesn't matter to anything that he does, I in Edmonton you literally stay I stand on the bench. Let me guess he doesn't tape his stick. No, no. Is this when the guys run on the ice. Okay, like some of the guys they they run out there everybody's excited right the crowds go in the buildings off and they come out and they clunk like horses when they're, when they're running out. He comes across there, like he's just, he runs. I can hear him coming. It's like he's gliding and his feet are moving. He's still running to get out on the ice. I marvel at it every time he comes out. I'm like, even doing this, he looks different than everybody else. It's

it's astounding and then he takes two laps in like a three seconds and you're like oh look at that. Yeah it is scary man to see him like running out so he's got speed already and then he does those laps. Really fired up there Ray we see you right now with your hand on your hip. Hand on the hip? What, what was going on there? Were you live at that point or were they in commercial? Because you're just sitting there. What was I doing? Was I bored?

Yeah, you got your hand on your hip and you're just leaning up against the boards. What is going on there? It was right at the beginning when they were doing that, Ray, shooting out on the ice and you were like, I better get the hell out of here. There's no room and my headset cables about two and a half feet so there's nowhere to go. Like there's literally in Dallas they've got like they've got one guy that does the closes the door another guy that puts this safety bar there somebody that helps that big star get up and out so you't, like I can't even stand in my place while

they're doing the anthem. So the other day I'm standing on that Edmonton bench and my headsets on boards and I said to that Olivier Rodrigue, you stand in there, I go, hey, if somebody starts talking, just pick it up and answer them. And he looked at me, he goes what? I go, oh yeah, just start talking. It'll be a great start to your career. Yeah, outstanding. That is great. Yeah, just start talking. It'll be a great start to your career. Yeah, outstanding. That is great. Yeah, that's a special place to be though to watch those guys motor around, man. That is for sure.

It is the best. All right, Ray, we'll leave it there, man. Enjoy the rest of the series. We'll do it again soon. You betcha. This is, I'm now at four games max, and then that's the end of ESPN's portion. So I got, my clubs just got to the front of my garage. We are ready to go.

They are calling your name. It's just a matter of time. Enjoy. Okay guys, be well. Great to talk to you. There he is, Ray Ferraro of ESPN joining us here. The Maple Toyota Hotline drive the built-in Canada fuel-efficient, funded drive Toyota RAV4

gas or hybrid models available. Visit maplet toyota.com all right um we're tracking the J's we've got uh cj coming up steve phillips later this afternoon we're giving away tickets to the rbc canadian open tune in to find out how and when you can win those we'll get to something to chew on as well overdrive continues tsn 1050 and on tsn2 all right this is going to sound random but it's not. I'm concerned about Jordan Love, my boy, the quarterback for the Packers. So I just saw this video I sent it to Joe hopefully we can turn it around quickly but it's Memorial Day

down in the States so everyone's playing and there's games going on during the day. He threw out the ceremonial first pitch for the Brewers and it was not a good throw. Not a strike? It was a brutal toss. How does a quarterback not have a good throw? That's what I'm saying man like that he had he did not have a good year last year a lot of injuries he took a step back they still made the playoffs but you got to go out there and throw heat man. You're the quarterback of the Packers Like you're telling me Brett farve would show up and just toss one and wait till you see the video dude It's borderline 50 cent fine really like it's not as bad 50 had the worst Possible for a guy that throws a ball for a living to not be able to toss one into home plate right watch this look at that

Toss for a living to not be able to toss one into home plate. Right, watch this. Look at that toss. What is that? Like that's. That was like a, I gotta lob this to make sure it gets there. Yeah, you lobbed it in there. Yes, but what is he doing? Like I guess you don't wanna maybe

blow your arm out or something. Like maybe there's some concern on that. But what is that throw? Like you're a quarterback in football, man. You gotta throw, you gotta hit it. You have to throw a strike if you're Jordan Love mandatory in a situation like that and I think on a bell curve if you're 50 cent if you're you know who else is throwing bad pitches there's been some brutal ones over the years well they the what's her

name who's a caller maybe what call me baby baby what the hell's her name again yeah I can't remember her name she's canadian yes she is her pitch was was brutal man but it was eight horrendous first pitch member how good george bush's was member george i was after nine eleven in new york yankee stadium yes you're right was that really great jobs carly ray jeffson that's who was that carly ray jeffson

uh... because her her ceremony on first pitch was crazy. One of the funnier ones was Gary Della Botte, the producer for Howard Stern's show. He threw out one that was so bad. And the worst was after he threw it, he had to go in. And of course, Stern is just waiting for him. And they did like two hours just destroying him and that would happen on this show I would think like if doogie ever went out and threw out the first pitch and it was a disaster We would spend a while you would want to go out there and do it if you had not like you if you couldn't even throw

I'm not sure why you would either could we do it like what if the Blue Jays invited us? Overdrive to throw I don't think Carly Rae. Yeah, that not that is particularly horrendous carly rey jeppson's role rod i don't think the blue jayson invite us anytime so obviously because of the other guys were were were missing the boat the worst one is i don't know who in the hell it was but he threw it at fennway and went twenty yards right in here to camera guy right in the nuts. Yeah, right in the pills.

Who was that man? I don't know, but it was 20 yards right and it hit the camera guy and it buckled him. Yes, that is maybe the best ever. I want to say it might have been a football player or something because I think it was somebody famous. Like it was somebody famous. I mean they do the ceremony of first pitch. It's not always someone famous sometimes It's you know, whoever it's going to be but I remember that one

I feel like that was someone looked that up guys find that find that viz whoever was at Fenway because it was particularly bad I don't know I'm just concerned about Jordan love a little bit concerned because I got a I got a you know Grady on a bell curve here And if you're professional athlete either heat re-adjusted rights on scott is something that it's got to be something better than what we saw in milwaukee today

uh... so i want to give a shout out to uh... tyrese halbert and status he that he's been granted access back in the building what's yes so if they think you'll be there tomorrow night for game four. I thought you said he was banned for life. Well he was. Originally they said you're out. You're banned. You're not coming back. I guess they rescinded that in Indiana in particular. I don't believe he's allowed on the road. I wouldn't suggest he shows

up at the Garden in New York. I don't think that would go over well. How embarrassing would that be if you just talked to somebody at a restaurant and you're like my kid plays in the NBA but I'm not allowed to go I'm suspended for life. That is crazy though that is outrageous if you like if you're that worked up and get suspended for life like that was and now they found a way to to bring him back I don't know well they didn't find a way I guess you know it's your rules you know like you decide to do what you're gonna do and you go with it, but I guess The Pacers have decided because Halbert's been playing so well, and I think they're also kind of thinking well

What if we get to the NBA finals here and this guy is not allowed in the stadium? I mean that's kind of tough when you're super stars dad isn't allowed to actually show up But he probably laid the hammer. I think Halliburton did like there's no guarantees you'll even show up because there's a chance Halliburton's like you can't you you gotta stay away but I guarantee you you would think he'd be on his best best behavior moving forward yeah I certainly hope so I got the King Daddy topper here I forgot about this Carl Lewis had the double remember him with the anthem buddy also

through a ball i i remember it was an sorority carl lewis so yes carl lewis that guy has had on both sides of one sent member he sang anthem and that was a mass that was a disaster i was at an nb a game it but i'd so he threw out the first pitch so i don't remember carl lewis for a professional it went south on him i'm not like well i would be willing to guarantee that to and that's also equally as you know unacceptable from a guy that's that

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the man he starts we can put that story to bed. I think it has to be, doesn't it? Like if they're going to finish the job, doesn't it have to be? You think they're going to go to the pick man again? Well, I mean, Pickard got Wally pipped here. He got injured. Like he should be furious. He got like, who was it? Hurdle that fell on him? Yeah, Hurdle fell on his knee. Like that would have been possibly career changing if he stays in and keeps playing

and keeps winning and they go to a cup final and... Just makes the story better though, man. Does it? For who? Skinner or not for Pickard? Just everything, yeah. The adversity and the craziness of it, the start and how brutal they were in two games and... Yeah. Yeah, you're right. The overall story is great. Like at the end, it's going to be McDavid if they win it, but it's gonna be just how through it all Pickard, Skinner, McDavid and Dry-Seidel they just said we're winning and whoever's in that figure

it out. And Ekholm injury like that, that looked bad. Like your number one defenseman goes down like that look, that was ugly. Guys, am I not, not my the only one that thought they were as soon as at home was down on the way they were playing i thought they were going to get rinsed by l.a. completely well they were well on the way to that happening yes they didn't play well like that's the thing we only talk about what's in front of us we always say that they did not play well the first couple games now mcdavid keep in

mind he almost dragged them back to a win that first game right but they lost with 40 seconds left on that like weird goal where Dano is jumping in front of Skinner and he slides to the left and it just or no it wasn't Dano Dano score shot it it was Warren Fogel that was jumping in front of yeah it was you think back that seems like that was jumping in front of us. You think back, that seems like that was last year, that was last month. That's the amazing thing. You start to just track people online and stuff. The World Hockey Championships are over. That goes on for weeks, but it's done.

There were players that were playing a week ago that went over there to play and they're already finished. And guys are well into their offseason Forget the the teams that made the playoffs. How about the teams that didn't make it? They've been done ever fully into their offseason programs fully in yes, and you're watching teams still playing That's right showing up at 8 in the morning and being like we have a three-hour grind in front of us where we're working And we're yes exactly back on the ice a couple times a week yeah you know if that's the truth if you played your last game on April 15th then it's been six weeks and that is the

crazy thing about making the playoffs when you're like okay I guess I got a dust dust off the skates and start skating again and at nighttime you're watching a team that has stopped yeah and we're not even in the cup final. We're three games into the conference final. Yeah that's the crazy part. Yeah you're right. You're right. And I wonder like there's obviously a number of guys who have not dusted off their skates. Like I'm sure there's a few guys. Remember where Phil, Phil got asked, he's like, yeah I ask you like five times this summer those of you do you feel like he just

castle had he didn't do a ton of media when he did a lot of a lot of it was kind of short and there was a lot of way i think the five times was basically code for i haven't skated all summer i think that was the interpretation from a lot of people yet like at the last second he said i'd better throw out something to make these people happy. So he said five, but it was actually zero. Like that's the thing.

He was trying to like, if you think you've skated five times, you skated once or twice. That's the year rounding up because you would know if you've skated five times. Like you would be able to count and go, yeah, I had a full week of skating Monday to Friday last week. He's like, yeah, I think I skated five times like you would be able to count and go yeah I had a full week of skating Monday to Friday last week he's like yeah I think I skated five times it's no what was the quote was it five or ten it was something it was it was something like that and then I believe the next day he had to come back out and be like hey just to clarify you know it was ten I think or more than ten like I think he really pushed and then he was like you know I make sure I'm working out like he really had to cuz that blew up clearly like it was it was already at a point where the team wasn't very good

and Phil was making a lot of money and kind of taking heat and it was like what are they doing here what is gonna happen and Phil's Phil's day one pressers yeah I don't know five times I guess I was on the ice wasn't a lot some beauty day one like you remember the other one was Cadbury's like ah Joffrey Lupel looks Yeah, I don't know, five times I guess I was on the ice. It wasn't a lot. Some beauty day wonders. You remember the other one was Cadbury's like, ah, Joffrey Lupel looks great. Oh yeah, that's when Lou was around and he was going to Robit Island

and they were like, are you insane? You can't say anything positive about this guy. He said he was buzzing around in the skates in the summer. He looks amazing out there, ready to play. Ready to play 82 games this year for the Maple Leafs. Man, I missed that, Phil. I think a bit over the years some of those day one or like some of those bombs that would drop man.

Yeah. It's crazy insanity. Yeah. Different era man. Different world and that wasn't that long ago but that would have been 10 years ago, Phil. About five times. I guess I got out there and skated.

Same thing with every sport, man. Like basketball, I guarantee you, there's a number of guys who've played their last game in the NBA April 15th, have not stepped in a gym. Have not even thought of it. Been to Europe. Like, because everyone's tracking Luca now, right? Like everything's about Luca and the contract.

Someone toss out there that he's, like LeBron said, I'm locking in on you and we're together every day or some nonsense like? Yes, I believe that when I see it. Yeah, if Luca's in Europe enjoying himself, I don't think LeBron's riding shots. That's what's a man. And it's a lot of- Well, you know LeBron went to them guys and said, look man, go to Europe for two weeks

and then get your ass back here and I'll see you in the gym at 8 a.m. I hope so. Again, I have no skin in the game it doesn't really matter to me but you would think you'd want to take advantage of a guy like LeBron being in your corner for a year or two and be like just show me the way like it's a lifeline that very few athletes ever get access to and you'd be so fortunate to take advantage of it of just you 40, you've done it all, you're still going, show me how you do it.

Show me how you do it, let me get up close and personal. Please take me under your wing. Like, you know how valuable that is? The LeBron under your wing routine. Dude, I was teammates with Gary Roberts and we both lived in Muskoka. He said, be at my boathouse at 8 a.m. every day. It's game changing.

It's amazing, because you know he's doing it. He's not taking a day off. I'm sure, how many times did you wake up praying he sent you a text saying, ah, not today. Ah, I'm not feeling well, I'll meet you tomorrow. There was a few times I'm sure O sent the text going, ah, not today. If I knew he was working, there was only in the five years

or whatever it was, there was only in the five years or whatever It was there was only one time or he'd like drop something on his weight or he dropped a weight on his foot And it just wasn't going his way and he just threw something and said not happening today That was the only time one time amazing five years. Yep, that would be that's what you'd expect out of a guy like Gary Roberts Final hour coming up overdrive continues TSN 1050N on TSM Plus. Introducing Brian Adams Radio on I Heart Radio. Canva first real sick strings. Hosted by Brian Adams himself.

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