OverDrive - OverDrive - May 27, 2025 - Hour 2

Episode Date: May 27, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 2 on OverDrive! TSN Hockey Analyst Mike Johnson joins to discuss the Maple Leafs' offseason views, the possibility of the Core Four returning to the team in Toronto and free agents that fit the landscape. They also go around the sports world in the latest edition of Confirm or Deny.

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of the final score. We got Mike Johnson coming up here this hour, confirming that I a little bit later in the hour. I've got to tell you guys about what I witnessed on a group chat last night. I can imagine what it is. It is quite something. It is, it's very, I think every parent will understand where maybe both sides are coming from.

You can't leave us hanging now, what is it? So, my youngest started playing soccer, right? We're only a couple weeks into this. And you guys know how it works when you have young kids. How old? Six years old. Yes. The snack schedule is a massive priority. Right? Yeah. And everyone gets a lot of the week and it's your responsibility

to bring a snack for after the game. Right? Big stuff. Remember, we're talking granola bars and oranges. Exactly. Remember when we were kids, you get orange slices. That's it. In a bag. I remember a plastic bag and someone would throw it on the grass and be like, go ahead, you can have that. There's nothing more. And then after if you were lucky, your parents might bring you to Subway after the game if you're lucky. Maybe you'd go get something. Like maybe a Dairy Queen at the height of summer or something

like that. But it would be orange slices in a candy cart thrown on the field being like, go ahead. That's what you get. So now it's every parent has a week, someone's got to bring it whatever. Well, the parent forgot last night. Oh, no. So what what happens on the way home in the team group chat another parent puts them on blast for not bringing the snack and reminds everyone how important the snacks are and the kids are really not handling it well and then that parent's got to come back with it, oh I didn't realize and totally forgot and then other people are getting in and I'm watching this thinking this is lunacy.

This is a six-year-old soccer snack schedule group chat where now people are coming basically to blows verbally online and how awkward is this gonna be next week when we have to show up and play again and people are gonna connect and be like sorry was it you that was blasting me on yeah the group chat like person who forgot it should come with like a four-course steak meal like yes just be a jack who forgot it should come with like a four course steak meal. Like you just be a jackass about it. Show up with like a food truck.

That would be hysterical. Rent a food truck with the bell and the horns and clowns. Exactly. Why does the person that's complaining have to be such a jerk? There's no harm. There's no foul. Nobody died. Nobody's starving. It's like no foul, nobody died, nobody's starving. It's like, wow, that's too bad you forgot, that's it, and you move on.

It's not worthy of anything. No, I would lamb-base the person that complained, oh, my kid really needs that orange slice in granola bar. You're off the team, sorry. It might actually be means for for a cut In a league soccer because it just was awkward like for everyone You can tell everyone's reading it be like this is really weird that we're complaining about snack The guy could have the guy could have pulled a move though a legendary move say guys I forgot but meet me at the Dairy Queen Around the corner on me whatever yeah, right

But for somebody to complain they should be removed from the team. Because if they're going to complain about that, there's more down the road. It just never ends. That's my concern, what's coming next. What's coming next? Because... Well, what are you talking about? You're bringing this to air.

She's going to walk right up to you and be in your... Oh, I'm in huge trouble. Yeah, I'm getting scissor kicked the next time I walk on that field. No, you're going to go in that group chat and be like, how dare you bring it up on national TV and live on YouTube. It's everywhere now, man. There's no putting, it's at five o'clock too. Like this is prime time, man.

I didn't sneak this in at the end of the show. This is getting around. This is viral. But I just, I couldn't believe it. And my wife and I were talking, we're like, I can't not believe what I'm witnessing here. These are adults losing it over a snack that was forgotten. There only should have been one thing thing as soon as she wrote in

to to to whatever the mild complaint or whatever was someone should have just wrote get over it end of story i know but that's that's the only thing to say just get over it and move on because if you give it some air and some life they just take it to the next level yeah it's just like that's what you have to ask are you really that offended does your kid care that much? We're all just get over it neighborhood kids going walking home and there's snacks at home I'm sure I'm certain that there's snacks Oh, it was it wasn't a soccer camp that ran eight hours. It was a one-hour game Oh park here. They're running around for half an hour doing cartwheels and going home

Yeah, I know I think you've got to stand up and say. You've got to tell the complainer to stuff it. One more comment and you're off. OK, you need to relax now, because I'll drag you out here and you can do it. I'm not doing anything, but I'm going to bring it. You know what you're writing back? I'm going to pass an aggressive. Why don't you go in the group though?

You want to hear some nightmare fuel? Go on the group chat and say, adding one more, and it's me. Jeff O'Ne on says stuff it. I should. I found a trainer for the team. I'm adding him in and it's you. And you just start Oh dog added to the group chat. Yeah.

Fire away peeps. You want to complain about no oranges for your kids. Sorry. Too many other problems in the world. Way too many. Way too many. It was a great night. Beautiful weather.

Come on now. All right. Johnny's coming up here in a moment. I feel like we need to let him know that the O-Dog has basically got Darth Vader on us. Yeah, this is like, you know, Anakin Skywalker at four o'clock and now you're Darth Vader. Don't go in too deep. Bring him in here. I want to invite him into my world, see if he's in. Okay. Do we have Johnny on the line? Yeah. I believe we do. All here's here's Mike Johnson our TSN hockey analyst Johnny brace yourself brace yourself Darth Vader wants to say something to you go ahead Johnny I've got a potential topic and I want to see if you'll jump on board With a little secret society group that I am creating and it's called the run it back group. Is

there anything that I can tell you to make you join team run it back or you completely done? Well, it's not much of a secret society for asking about but other than that I could, yes of course, of course you could it's not even a hard self It's depending on actual Situations that you're gonna offer up due to his membership of this very exclusive group I just have to I gotta say I was joking and you make me sick that you're on board with this I don't think you are joking. I don't think

Okay. Oh, tell me this tell me Johnny. Okay, hold. Tell me this. Tell me this. Well, Johnny, let me just first tell you where this originated from. I just get the sense in this market where it takes about this amount of time, which is approximately 10 days, for the Run It Back group to come alive. It's like a Michael Jackson thriller video. They come out of the ground and they're like, it's okay. There's nothing. It's crazy how they want to get rid of everybody and then 10 days the ground and they're like, it's okay, there's nothing like the, it's crazy how they, they want to get rid of everybody. And then 10 days later, it's like, ah, let's just run it back.

Temperature drops, move on to other things. So to become disinterested, maybe have a little perspective. But oh, if you were to tell me, okay, let's say John DeVos, I'm going to come back for two years at $4 million. Okay, so so he no longer core four he just a third line center and mitch martin says all of the seven years and uh... ten five and johnny let me just interrupt the stars he could last that i got a second year this is gone out seriously this is the this is where you are doing chat you're the one who killed a secret society about it right deal well i know but but

well when it comes to Devar is like people are attaching the dollar value to him where it's just you have to do it at that number. But come playoff time, he's still got to go out in the ice and perform like that. Like, but what happens if he gets matched up against Lundell next year? He'll just get chewed up alive at 35 years old like well He's a what's because Lundell's gonna be a second line center cuz Sam Bennett's gonna leave and he's gonna get whoever the third line Center is and he can handle Whoever some random, you know But the green guy, but can he we all think that well

He can with the money you're gonna spend on the other side of the roster because you're gonna take seven million dollars a year on him and with the money you spend on the other after the roster because you're gonna take seven million dollars a year on him but what i think you're playing against that third line center is a bastard to play against well i think i thought okay well the point is how you get a cookie okay what the alternative you let him walk totally understand totally understand the mark on the step

you let him walk tonight if you're second and third line center job for approximately twelve dollars how is that gonna happen So now you're going to fill your second and third line centers job for approximately $1200. How is that going to happen? And so I'm not saying it's the perfect solution, but it might be the best one you have available that's sort of feasible that you could maybe work out. That's the reality.

What we want to happen, what we think should happen might not equate to what can actually happen. And that is like, you can go get Matt Duchenne. He's not going to come here, but like, you know, Michael Grandland to be your second line center and Devar, like these are the options you have Brock Nelson who's 34 and you're going to give him six or seven years to be your second line center. And I like Brock Nelson. Like I don't know if that's a better alternative.

There's just, there's not a lot of other guys out there. So, you know, I'm on team know change is necessary, but If you start evaluating the market and what's out there, especially with Tavarez and he's willing to take a deal That's well below his market value because he wants to stay in this market. He specifically would be someone you like You think about just third-line centerman He wins 60% of his face off like you Like you're not counting on, I know Florida does, but generally speaking you don't count on your third line center to get more than maybe 20 goals and maybe 45 points. He would obviously vastly out-produce that and maybe even in the

playoffs he gets half a point a game. Would vastly out-produce usual third line centerman. You gotta like adjust what we think he is to what he actually would be which would be a depth contributor which he probably be pretty good after a couple of now i don't want him for years of five years to he's not going to be as good for your father now but if you get it short i think that the car that you have well i think

you know the what the way your your your saying that uh... is the way is the way i can see bread tree living saying it or seeing it and i think why stop there that you're saying that is the way I could see Brad Treleving saying it or seeing it and I think why stop there? Because it's accurate? Well, and then you just continue with Marner because ultimately what would end up happening or what has happened here the last three or four years and I think in the end is what got Shanahan is it wasn't an obsession to win, it was being terrified of losing. And if you're terrified of losing you keep these guys that is that is very liberal use of language to suggest that Brendan

Shanahan is not up was not obsessed to win and he was scared of losing like you know then why did they just keep bringing them back because he was your explanation because he believed differently than you that's why flat out now he was wrong but like any and that's why plot of now he was wrong but like any and not fair to think he was wrong to believe but this core with this group of the time will be good enough to do it she was wrong

but the deputy did it could be with you know he like happy to be a hundred point team and i were to get a third round that's not who these guys are but the only in really really really johnny we think everyone's over obsessed and crazy i don't i mean pay pay me said we have a lot i'm not you don't think that you don't think that multiple times family cup

champion hall of famer who took this job in his hometown with a separate trying to win i've seen the key death you've been wanted to re but if you can't really want to win okay what he talked about i think he loved his job too I think a lot of people love their jobs they say it all the time guys are always like oh just trade those picks I'll be

gone by the time like guys think about their their being keeping the job like guys do that happens sometimes like we cannot be like you cannot be that naive no yes you think that like everyone in the league is just so upset I'm willing to gamble with my whole life and career to go for it or I can take this route and I have a great life for the next decade? Really? I don't think so, man. I'm not saying that's 100% the case with Shanahan. And again, I think you're misinterpreting what I'm saying in a way. It's the idea that if Marner leaves and Tavares leaves, that's terrifying because they might

get significantly worse and miss. I don't know if I want to live in that world, but the opposite is I've got to let them go because I've got to try the other one because I've got to try to win. I'm not saying it necessarily in the insulting manner in which maybe you're interpreting it, but I think it may happen this time because these guys are really good players really good regular season players they'll make the playoffs and I mean I think I think how I would phrase it would be you know the comfort or confidence and knowing it'd be good with a good chance versus the unknown of what your chat might look like if you make those changes

and that's and softer line what can i tell you what you need to lose i'll take the unknown every time after what's going on that's the way i look at it's like well how could it be worse but you're not going to miss the playoffs is that like does that the nuclear option yes but i don't know i I'll try something different as opposed to.

But I think, oh, I think, oh, as they continued to tinker over the last several years, and maybe where this summer is different is that, well, one, the contracts they were under, so they, you know, to move off these guys was harder because they had no trade protections or whatever it might be, they didn't have the ease of movement that they have this summer And they also maybe believe that the rest of the roster was more flawed

Than just these guys and they thought they could somehow with this group of high paid players They could fill the rest and they did they did fill the rest but in the end it wasn't enough Which is why I think it would be different this year, which is why I think Mitch Marner Will very likely not be back here and I think would be different this year, which is why I think Mitch Marner will very likely not be back here. And I think, um, you know, they might be okay with the fact that he forces hand now, Hayes might be upset cause they didn't force Mitch's hand saying, listen, we're not, we're just not having you back as opposed to trying to sign him in February and then being, you know, whatever happened there. But I think for, yeah, so I think for

the whole group run it back, probably not, probably not ideal. And I don't think anyone wants that, but I think maybe for Tavara specifically given the contract everything else that does seem more feasible and I don't know if just bringing not Mitch back is enough of a culture change I think it might be though like I do think it's pretty significant what he was in that room and what he was in this market it would change the dynamic pretty significantly not because Mitch is is a bad guy, I'm not saying that, but just because it's gonna be really, really different. And you can get an $8 million player and a $5 million player for him that can be completely different kinds of players.

You get Brad Marshant and Sam Bennett for that same 13 and a half you're gonna give Mitch. If you could, that would be enough with one of the two departing to make your team different. Yeah and you know what, this would be enough with one of the two departing to make your team different. Yeah, and you know what, this might be a moot point where Mitch Marner has made up his decision and is leaving. Like it, you know, regardless if you want to keep him or not, he has the right to walk on July 1st. And if they do get John Tavares on a value contract, and Mitch walks, the team does look

different. There's no core four anymore. It's the core two and John Tavares, who like you mentioned, is on a value contract. Matthew Nye is the head of John Tavares. Agreed. Agreed. And here's the other thing. This is what I think we might have to get away from. I think the crop of the unrestricted free agents is not as deep as we would want it. No. So that now you start getting creative and looking at trades. Exactly.

Like I'm looking at again, this is wishlist. It's Nazem Kadri, but maybe it's Braden Shen. Maybe it's something like that. Maybe, you know, you're looking, you're calling Doug Armstrong and saying, what are you doing with your organization? You might be looking to get younger. Like that's the type of stuff you get creative again Do you have the courage to eat? Well, I'm sure she need your own pick

You need to offer like that. I agree. I I think you need to be creative But this is where Johnny and I'm gonna put it back to you. This is where Brad tree living if he doesn't have Brendan Shanahan's vision if they weren't aligned going into last season, now it's Brendan Shanahan's show. I'm sorry, it's Brad Treeliving's show and he can go, if he wanted to move off Mitch Marner last year or if he wanted to get creative but he couldn't do that because his hands were tied behind his back because you got to run it up the chain, if he has the keys to the kingdom, Brad Treeliving will build the team that he wants and he might have

that flexibility just because Mitch Marner walks and and now you start to get creative and that's where it'll be interesting to see what he does with all of that. Yep, yes, yes, yes. I mean and talking about just for offer sheets what was Bill Holloway's contract? Is it like two eight? That's like a second and a third you go find a guy like that for your second and a third, you know You can do some things So you're right noodles if they weren't in complete alignment and plus tree was new enough that he's like I guess you know Yeah, do I know enough about this group to to decide? Definitively that it's not a good idea. But now he knows and now it's gonna happen regardless so yeah that's that's I think that's the best the road they go

down the only other thing guys I want to pull you guys oh you're the general manager of the Toronto Maple Leaf Mitch Marner's like I'm not signing back but I want to sign and trade you you get me eight years you trade me to Utah and you get a third rounder. What is the return for a sign of trade? Like a third rounder or prospect? Like nothing really great. Do you do that? No, I tell him to stuff it. Well, no, I would do it because you know what?

Why not? Let's just get creative. What if that trade is to Vegas and Vegas has a dumb salary? Well, for Mark Stone. Exactly. Like you start looking at exactly. So it's not just a seventh rounder or you know, Joe from the Bridge jokes, it's a 12th rounder. It's, you gotta take some salary, but that might be a good $5 million player

that you could bring back. Like something like that as you talk about rounding it. Could you get William Carlson out of Vegas for $5 million, who is a really good player. That's what I'm talking about. I'm saying you start to get creative and go, you want this player? I'll give him eight years at whatever you're willing to pay, but I want that player in return because you're going to have to dump south. You're throwing guys overboard anyway. Right. That's where you get creative. See guys, it's all about creativity.

It's just not about yelling. It's not like the oranges situation in Whitby where you just have to like be a jerk. We're talking this thing through i like it i think it was done with the one p and i have a good guy work and i think that's the reason uh... i think we've accomplished that this hour another that that i've signed a trade to vegas for william carlson

that's gonna be the headline of this hour when we post it online. I've heard way worse ideas to start this interview, so not so bad. Yes. Good conclusion. Valid, valid. You know what though, truthfully I wonder if Vegas would also look at Mitch, and any player for that matter, not just Marner, and say, we're Vegas, we don't really need to give you an 18.

Like if you want to come here, you can here But it'll be on our terms, you know Like that that is one thing I am curious about Like the Leafs have done everything to make all these players feel so great and they've given in on everything There may be a reality out there where some teams are like, oh, we're not doing that For a couple years so what if it's a wonder whether or the what if they don't do it what if it's a 10 heads load around here man it will explode that cap it goes backwards it will be wild wild wild back home or what are you back in Toronto now I'm back in Toronto now it's like 11 o'clock i'm ready to go to bed

will catch up later in the week we'll talk about i've got a couple of aspects that we talked to you i don't think that it there's mike johnson rt s and hockey analyst joining us in the maple toyota hotline anyone else from tia said that well i just say come on and we're just yelling scream but i don't see a lot of boys i just i think that's why I would be shocked if Brad tree-living

Said anything like on on Thursday definitive. He just now potentially again If he just had the meeting with with Keith Pelly He would have just been handed the keys to the kingdom a couple days ago so you're trying to get grounded the last thing you're gonna go okay in the media on Thursday morning when CJ asked him like yes I'm definitively doing this it's like I'm now gonna sit back and assess everything and and bully forward here and I've got a month and a bit to do it so I and be ultra creative because he doesn't want to do it so I and be ultra creative

Because he doesn't want to take a step back and and again With respect to Mitch Marner. That's a hundred-point player like you you're gonna if he's walking You've got to replace that player and also keep your captain happy. Keep in mind 34 have been getting Unbelievable passes from this guy for nine years. Yeah, you know, yeah, that's another thing you gotta think of That's it's an interesting thing like because ultimately the dust will nine years. Yeah, you know, yeah, that's another thing you have think of that It's an interesting thing like because ultimately the dust will settle on a moment you know everyone will reset and you want Matthews to be at his best and Yet, you know, there may be a challenge directed towards him from the team to you. You got to be better man Like that, you know sure Mitch isn't here, but that does you're still getting paid a lot of a lot of money

You're the captain. Yeah, you know, sure Mitch isn't here, but that does, you're still getting paid a lot of money. You're the captain. Yeah. You know, like, okay, go find your goals somewhere else and do different things. And we get to the playoffs. You got to play big, you know, agreed. Like that's the truth. Like again, I think I can't speak for how the team would necessarily address this, but

I think from the outside, a lot of people are looking at this, like it's time for the players to repay the team you know and the fans and all that like it's they it's we even use the term we hear the term well your cup window you got to take advantage and Matthews it's like well they've been trying for nine years you know and there was a window last Sunday game seven where were they you know they didn't get it done. They could have played better won those games and then they're there you go You're in the window. That's another thing That's not really discussed like these guys are the biggest window of all time and pro sports

Some teams get like their teams get good and then they're like the way certain people view what they're like There's two or three window here where they could possibly win a championship. Nine were going on. Years. I mean, and Hayes, I think the biggest thing I learned when this all went down, what was it, last Monday or Tuesday or whatever it was, when you broke it up into three year increments

in the nine years, that was something, I thought that was brilliant because I hadn't thought about it that way. I really I mean the first three years you look at it hey it's learning curve young all of that. What are you this guy's agent? You talked about his hit on Jay last night like it was the greatest thing I've ever heard. I am Arlen Farrow's son. Three year increments is so brilliant. It was a great point. I'm sorry like you're looking at it. Tire pump every once in a while. No but that's a tire. It's too much. It's the three years That's where you talk about window. We're talking Columbus Montreal squeaked in the playoffs up three one like those are

That's where you crapped it off right there that Montreal team was so trash during that regular season They barely got wasn't that the Canadian division someone had to get in it was possibly yeah that's what it was the Leafs were miles in front of everyone else and Edmonton played Winnipeg and the Leafs played the Habs and they're up 3-1 in that series we're not to continue to relive it but I think yesterday was like either yesterday or today is the anniversary of like the One of the games it was like I think it was that the cocky amy goal or no It was the two on oh, we're go off Chaniac. Yeah, Gal Chaniac just threw up

Right delivered right up the middle the core that was lying if you go from the bridge Pull that up. It's insanity If you go from the bridge pull that up. It's insanity that play that way was thinking at the blue line I don't get all of them get a whole bunch of yeah, let's run the dirt To get the derma turnover in Montreal and yeah Campbell didn't have his Glover blocker on with cock there was some insanity there was insanity But that one like that turnover and it's a two on oh if you watch it. I actually watched it today But that one like that turnover and it's a two on oh if you watch it. I actually watched it today They're moving like Suzuki slows down. It is a two on oh from the far blue line

Yeah, and they are going half speed like it is and it's just back forth back and forth And then just one timer in the net and that was game six, right? I think they did and then yeah seven they lost so that was just a weird weird well no cuz game six was in Montreal that was a cockney amygdala that was okay game five I'm sorry game five then it was just a weird yeah I just remember no one in the building it was really surreal yeah anyway all right confirmed with the night coming up we've got panger coming up I've got a few more more likely to happens that we can roll into as well later this afternoon. Jay's back in action. Nick's Pacers, Oklahoma City up 3-1 in their series. That was a great game

last night but the Thunder I think they're just gonna destroy many in game five like destroy them and Shay and the boys will be off to the NBA finals. So more on that a little bit later in the afternoon as well. Overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. I can neither confirm or deny that this is in fact a significant... Austin trades Andrew Raycroft to Toronto in exchange for the rights to Tuka Ras. It's been my honor and a privilege to serve as the General Manager of the Toronto Maple Leafs Hockey Club.

It's time for Confirm or Deny. Do you regret giving all those gentlemen the no trades or no movement clauses? I can either confirm or deny that. I can't confirm or deny. Alright, confirm or deny. We all know the way this is going to work. We're going to make statements and we're either going to confirm them or we're going to deny them. Noodles is off doing some panel work. He'll be back in about a half an hour. Darren Pang

coming up as well on Game 4 Oilers Stars tonight. Get his take on what happened in Florida last night. But the Panthers, they had been red hot. They didn't have a lot last night. They really did not have a lot the tank last night but i think you got a credit carolina robert and more was put them on blast and they have been getting embarrassed and they showed up last night they played well they're not pretty crazy how it's like

when it's three nothing it's doom and gloom but it sounds stupid but you get it to three one and then it ain't three nothing anymore and then it's like i got a win one to get their attention savers yada was senators they won one is like we went one more will get somebody's attention that's what they did it's exactly what they did uh... confirmed that i carolina can still make this a series

i'm gonna deny it just the way flor Florida responds and I really don't care who comes back in the lineup, who's healthy or who plays. It would be so Florida Panther like to just go in there and win 3-0 and have a low event game, physical game and just Kachuk and Bennett will show up or they're just their usual suspects. Seth Jones on the back end will have a monster night. It would be so Panther like to go in there in a dominating fashion. When you think Carolina would have a bit of mojo and they would just squash them. I'm going to deny it for the same reason. I just think, um, you know, Carolina, they had to find a way to win one because of that record, right?

Like you keep losing games in the Conference final you cannot get swept again and in the fashion that you played the first three games like you just got smoked man Like you yeah, they had to show up last night. They had to have a game. They did that I think that's enough to allow them to breathe Maybe they can get one more but a series would suggest to me like basically, you got to push it to seven now and I just don't see that happening because of Florida and the way that Florida plays and you know we were talking yesterday about Paul Maurice and just having everyone right

in the palm of his hand he did it again last night with his sarcastic comments about Bob giving up the two goals even though they were empty netters. Oh yeah he wasn't even in the net and then he was like, I haven't been so hard on the Carolina Hurricanes as much as you find people have been. And I'm just like, what are you talking about? What is he doing down there, Paul Maurice, man? He's gone too far.

He knows what his capabilities are and he's gone too far with it. Well, he's had the spotlight now for three years You know you go to the cup final two years in a row you win one and you on the verge of doing it again Everything's Paul Maurice all the time, you know Like people want to hear from him and he's gonna give him a quote and well you can shotgun a beer or you can go to Church that's kind of like our team. We we can do either Yeah, I'm like how are you talking about what he was trying to read?

He tried to find it and he's like, I don't I don't have it and I don't know where I'm going And I'm asking people he reached in the short year. He pulled out a turd on that one. Yeah, that was that was a weird It was a weird one. But last night, you know again credit to Carolina, but I still think Florida I could see them doing exactly what you just suggested They go in their game five say no not happening tonight guys Confirmed that I both Aaron Echblad and Sam Bennett will resign in Florida both of them I'm gonna go 75% on both of them. So what that a good former deny every that that's a

also argument that's a kind of a seventy five percent of ideas that are really had a brain hard on that one yeah i can't fully confirm because okay i'm gonna deny it i i i think that i think the florida says the dreams over as far as keeping everybody and i actually don't even think it would be that bad of a thing for them to move off of one of the players because you got to keep freshening things up and doing it differently.

Like I think if you look at Chicago, their team was different when the Cups that they won. They had to keep evolving and do it different and get different players and it might be a good thing. So the two of them, I'm going to say no. But the thing is, you look at the situation they've created down there, it's Fort Lauderdale, Florida, it's an incredible team, and you're going to have more chances to win in the next five years.

What player would want to exit that unless they're strictly just saying, I want, my ego is telling me I want people to bid the highest that I'm going to the highest bidder. That could be a case, but I really can't see it. Because a lot of these players, they're making huge cake on their second deal where they're in a comfort zone where they're like, do I really need to go after that? You know what I mean? Like a six year, six million dollar deal as your second contract, are you really saying I got to cash out here?

I don't know. Yeah, here's another element to it that I don't know if we're considering is that Florida and their front office have proven they're the smartest, savviest, best front office in the league. They may let one of them or both of them walk because they don't want to be tied For six seven eight years to them. Yeah, which again is Ruthless, but that's what they've proven. They are. Yeah, you watch they'll get into they'll bring in other players. Exactly They'll be like act glad you want to screw around we got Seth Jones like we're fine

That's where they got him and like Forza is not going anywhere. Miko is not going anywhere. So at a minimum now I will say that there could be a Tampa connection with McDonough where they moved off McDonough and then a year or two later they're like we got to get them back like that might be something that happens with that blood where they move off from and realize man we shouldn't have done that. But I think the likelihood of both of them getting a big, they're both gonna command a lot of money and deserve a lot of money.

They're both really good players. Yes, Florida does really well with their cap. Yes, they get guys to buy in and take a little bit less, but they still pay people. There still is a finite cap. Everyone can't make eight million or eight and a half or nine. It doesn't work that way.

So I'm gonna deny it as well. And maybe not as much because the players are like, or eight and a half or nine. It doesn't work that way. So I'm going to deny it as well. And maybe not as much because the players are like, we want all the money in the world we're leaving. It might be because Zito in Florida says, you know what? I don't want to be attached to that guy for eight years. We just want two cups back to back and we're going to just try to do it a little bit different. Right. Because like the luxury they have is let's say both those guys leave Barkov Reinhart for Hagee Kachuk Lundell

Luster I need They're all yeah, they're all still there like they're all still there and then on the back end Forseling Mikala Jones and Bob Scott I believe at least another year left Yeah, so maybe they think Lund del's is actually a second line center which there is an argument to be had plays like it yeah he looks like he's real close to it like that and that's the truth that maybe they feel like i think we'll get a third-line guy

whoever that might be and uh... just keep plug along uh... confirmed that either may police should be all in on brad marshan on july first all in on brad marshan at thirty seven years old yes i'd i'd confirm it

why not the high-speed i had a hundred percent a hundred ten percent i was thinking about that like you gotta get somebody like, and this has been the same thing for nine years, that's just a little edgy, that might not get along with everybody that well, he's just got an edge to him. Like if you look at that Evander Kane, I'm pretty sure not everyone's his best friend. You know what I mean? He doesn't seem like a lovey-dovey guy where every morning it's good morning and, you know,

I don't know about the Rolls-Royce every game and all that other stuff but you know what he just got an edge to him and he goes out he's a different player and he just and you need I think you need that like I'm pretty sure McDavid and Dry-Cytle appreciate having Evander Kane around because he probably says some things that needed to be said that they don't want to say it like it's just i don't know you you have a bunch of nice guys around it just you know what those are the results that a bunch of nice guys provide absolute zero

no i i'm a hundred percent confirmed not only that i'm i'm doing everything i can to bring him here i'm strapping in an interest jersey immediately and i i think you need a guy like march and who's different whose got a totally different personality and vibe they've decided the maple is in the past to to bring in the veteran guy that hasn't one yet as opposed to the guy who has one for the most part the the marlowe's the portons the spasso's

you know it that it's been like the guy was craving it but doesn't really know how to do it but he's gonna help them like and they you know in retrospect they got it wrong Where I they should have signed Corey Perry when by all accounts he wanted to be here. He's a winner He's won cups He goes to go find a job like seven years ago six years ago and all he does is keep playing and do it now It's that it's too late now probably and March and I know that'll be the argument well he's not young he's not and it might cost you a couple years at whatever but he's actually won he knows how to win and he brings a completely different attitude.

Dude that Corey Perry Bryant's 40 years old he might sign a two-year extension at Edmonton man. He might. You know that those two guys are saying you better have him back here. Yeah because he plays every night he knows how how to play. He knows how to win. He knows how to agitate. He literally has a cup ring. It's just a different vibe, man. It's a totally different attitude. He straight up gets it done. Yes, exactly. Confirmed with an eye, Aaron Judge is underpaid at $40 million per season.

Get serious with this nonsense. No one's underpaid at 40 million dollars Like here's no he is he is dude he is that's Vlad E Guerrero jr. Money now borderline they're much better Aaron judges than Vlad E Okay, then anybody else that way you got me yet. You had me. that's what i'm saying like now guys are getting it's like flatty it's like so i get it all with there's a guy driving in his car right now i don't know just got a muffler falling off his pants are wrapped in his leg underpaid at forty million dollars ike get its its relative i understand that i know it's but it's we're talking sports. We're talking baseball and

Like judge he's got an OPS of almost 1300. He's hitting basically 400 the guy's gonna hit 60 home runs again He's gonna drag like go look at their lineup like Garrett calls out Soto left They're gonna win though They're probably gonna run away with the AL East and it feels like judge is just gonna drag them there Like he's already worth like four four and a half almost five wins above replacement Like the guy is and he's getting better It's incredible. And yes, it sounds insane to say that 40 million is underpaid But Vlad E just is that's Vlad E money man like he's bloody girl, Jr

And what was judge's steel tax bracket five six hundred he signed a nine-year 40 million for 360 total I think But that's what I'm saying 360 total imagine if it was two years later after like a 60 like he would be Yeah, he was a real tiny deal. ask on a deal yes seven hundred million dollars or something but he's getting less than half of sorrow yes sorrow is younger you know sorrow decided to leave judge didn't

i confirm denied there is no clear cut cons might favorites on the florida panthers do you have a clear cut cons might favorite in florida right now yeah it's a better confirm it now i'll confirm sam bennett is the leading all playoffs the score is yet well no now it's like mcdavid and all but he's leading them in scoring yeah he has been leading the floor here talking florida panthers cons might

that sam bennett interesting that that and i don't even think it's close to be honest with you before you're talking florida panthers cons might that sam bennett interesting that that and i don't even think it's close to be honest with you well thought bark off rep in at home every night around has been played and hasn't been scoring now jobs kind of up and down at times of the playoffs like he's been easily sam bennett he's been easily sam bennett yeah i guess it probably what like what about the third line though? Like could it be Lundell?

Could it be Brad Marsh and like he's been really good Seth Jones? I don't I guess I guess I'm gonna actually confirm that there isn't a clear-cut one because I agree Bennett's been big and he's put up He's put up really good numbers But he's not They still got to win five more games to get to the Stanley Cup I'm not convinced he would win it like it may be setting up for if it's Edmonton, Florida again We're McDavid's gonna win the cons might regardless of the outcome Like that might happen again

let's say Florida beats them in seven and McDavid's got 43 points in the playoffs and Do you imagine the guy went back to back cons mights and they lost both times? It actually is reasonable to suggest it could happen again this year. I hope it doesn't for his sake, clearly, but it's not far-fetched. Well those Dallas Stars better put something together tonight or they're going to be well on their way. Other than one period, it's been Edmonton Oilers. Yep.

Yeah, you lose. If Edmonton wins tonight, I don't know man. I mean that feels like curtains doesn't it? Like you give those guys kind of blood in the water and them feeling it and they realize they're that close to getting back to where they were heartbroken a year ago. I think you're right on that. I just got to mention like I can't, if they do get back there, I can't compliment and uh... but i think you're i think you're right on that i i tough it is to lose in a championship series and get back the next year? It takes incredible fortitude man Yeah

Professionalism and dedication and drive and obviously talent and ability and orange slices and orange slices Final one confirmed with an eye one of McElroy or Scheffler will win a golf tournament in the next three weeks. So one of them is, it's Memorial, RBC Canadian Open, US Open. One of them is going to win one of the next three. I totally confirm that. It almost seems impossible that that wouldn't happen the way that they're playing. Like if one of them is dialed in and on their game at a tournament it seems like they're gonna win. That's just...

Sheffler in particular. McElroy ever since that Masters man he has not been great. Yeah maybe it's taken a lot out of him who knows but he'll get back on track man. He will at some point. He's too good of a player and he will That's a hundred percent confirmed though. Yeah, just like you every time we say all the field would take the field the field so good It's always one of those guys well Scheffler's the one that scares me like he's playing the memorial this week And then the US Open at Oakmont Oakmont just screams Scheffler man Like that guy's gonna hit every fairway and every green and if his putters in the top 50 he's gonna win by three. Yeah.

You know I just. Maybe more. Maybe more because you know it's the bomb and gouge and all that kind of stuff but you've seen you've played Oakmont you see it's so tough and the rough we've already seen the pick that they famously do every year drop the ball in the rough. Have you seen the pictures? It's insane Now they'll cut it down the USGA softened over the years. They actually I don't think they play it as tough as they used to But if it's anywhere close to like penal and crazy rough at that place There is gonna be such a premium on hitting fairways

And I just Scheffler just places his ball 320 down the fairway like he he walks up there and drops it and goes, this is where I'm playing from. Dude insane greens too. Insane greens. Like the member, you talk about dropping in the rough, like the member that I had the opportunity to play with on the putting green was like, just putt that one to that pin like way down there and he goes, you just have to touch it. I've never, I've never seen greens like that before in my life that Oakmont crazy-ass greens yeah I love that they're back there man I love because it's it's just

gonna be it feels like three under could win the tournament yeah it's one of those but I'll confirm it because of Sheffler I think he's gonna win one of the next two tournaments he plays on I do McElroy we'll see he the RBC Canadian Open, but it's a great field next week. We've got a pair of tickets we're gonna give away. Every single day this week we're giving away tickets to the RBC Canadian Open. We'll tell you more about that. We're gonna give them away in the next 20 minutes to a half an hour. Panger's coming up. Noodle's will be back. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 2. You see I played with that lunatic on Sunday.

You know the dude that hits the 300 yard 2 irons? You played with him. Yes I did, yep. Seven time club champ Danny Parik hitting 300 yard 2 irons. Sting him. Dude, blowing it by everyone's driver. It was insane, oh world. That was one of the most like remarkable rounds I've ever

witnessed. It sucked for me because we were playing with a guy who was a plus four, a plus two, and you were a scratch. You were the third best guy in that group. And I'm like, can we play off different T-deck? Trying to keep up. This guy's mashing two iron stingers all over that track. I think he shot like 68. Yeah. And never 300. It was it's they're longer than ever. He's got this new two iron. It goes 300 yards. Like who's who's making two irons anymore? I don't know, man. He's an old school. That guy can play though. He's a legend in amateur golf and the GTA. Yes. Well, that's it, man. If you if you hit a two iron because like you choose to because you know what you're

Doing with all he wants and he's horny for it. Yeah any hole. He's like give me that par fives No, I know that I remember it. I saw witnessed it part of the third hole at Weston uphill par five I think it would two iron two iron and like flipped out an eagle putt it was crazy Insane yeah, that's that I wish I could do that you just have to have so much control your golf ball and your club and like everything's got to be so perfect in terms of mechanics and like what's crazy about that and we all know it is like you get then you go out and watch these guys at the RBC Canadian Open like I'm lucky enough I get to play in the

Pro-Am and I'm nervous this year because I'm playing horribly I haven't been playing a lot of try. I'm trying to get out and my game is brutal And it's just it's not gonna be a good year for me. I could feel it already But to watch these pros hit shots. It's just crazy like it is crazy How it's fascinating if you can ever get the chance to get up close and personal on a t-block is how loud their driver sounds? Yes, like it has a like you can play with your buddies on a Saturday or Sunday morning the sound off their driver It's just like it's like an explosion. It's crazy. How loud it is. Yes, they are mashing the golf ball Yeah, mashing it. Yeah, we're gonna be at the RBC Canadian Open all week next week. First up will be there, Golf Talk Canada.

We're going to be there Wednesday through Friday. You've got to come and check us out. We're at the rink hole. We can't wait. This Thursday you're going to be up there, right? Playing Osprey Valley, the NHLPA and Golf Canada, a little mashup. There's going to be a lot of former pros and current pros. It's going gonna be great

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