OverDrive - OverDrive - May 5, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' second round showdown against the Panthers, the Jets' impressive overtime triumph against t...he Blues and Mikko Rantanen leading the Stars against the Avalanche. In the latest edition of Hayesy's List, Hayes lists the Maple Leafs players with the most to gain from beating the Panthers in the series and the Canadian teams in the Stanley Cup Playoffs in the league.

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Starting point is 00:00:50 and on on lots going on but lots that is the appropriate answer lots going on ever lots go i love it and you are exactly the man i want to see because i got approached today at farm boy. Mm-hmm. Somebody had the audacity to say to me you should hear Hazy B out a little more. He's got some smart takes and I said okay that's fine. I go what do you think I do? And he this is true I'll admit this he said you interrupt a lot maybe stop and take a listen to Hazy B. I just said, bud thanks for your time and I was out
Starting point is 00:01:25 of that store. You find me that man. You find me that guy. I need him on the show. It was like a real living Hazy B burner account. You should just take a second and listen to Hazy B and then he threw in the and I said you know what bud let me tell you something. I said I do interrupt a lot but you know what I listened to for five years? People saying I just sat back and picked my ass and I didn't do anything. So I decided that I'm just gonna do it my way and that's the way I do it.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Hey, listen, we got a good rhythm going here. And that made me think, because we had a weird conversation on Friday about flying cars and where the... I retweeted the thing for you. Yes, because it's out there. The little flying bug is out there. This just popped into my mind because you just said it.
Starting point is 00:02:07 It was like a burner account in person. That's coming with AI robots, like trolls. Oh my God. Imagine a robot gets set up, like you're walking down through Farm Boy. Oh dog, you loser. And you're like, who is? Oh, it's the guy's robot. And the guy's face is in the robot.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Yeah, he programmed it. If you ever see any of the three guys on overdrive, you make sure you chirp them. Yeah. Like that's what's coming. What would you look for for the O-Dog burner person? Would it be like a fat ass and like short little legs? And a giant head? Or what would you look for to say that's the O-Dog burner, burner bot? That's a great question. What's the BMI on your burner bot? Well yeah, what does the robot look like? It's not not you see those Tesla robots. They're all like really skinny and long. What if they had like a burner robot like just robots after the owner the burner
Starting point is 00:02:53 bought? I would look for your skinny little ass in the way that your burner bot would walk the exact same way I would spot it in at the C&E. Yes, definitely. But what if we went through phases? bought it in at the cn e yes definitely but what if we went through phases right well when like what if he bought the burner bought when you were just out of college and standing there with a sheet on that burner but to try to put people off you got the grip burner but i have put him in play that would be great and that guy would cause a problem that guy would cause a lot of problems
Starting point is 00:03:21 they don't stand in line for me to chicken par parms, I'll be there when I can. He'd be at that wing place for that, that you don't talk about that. I'll never mention that place again. Hey, yeah, we'll have you in for free wings and then all the plugs in the world. We show up two days later, the guys are like, I don't even know who you are. He must have a twin brother. I actually think he does have a twin brother. That information did actually get to me at one point that he does.
Starting point is 00:03:45 But yeah, no robo bots here this afternoon, including the game tonight. We got the 8pm puck drop. I don't mind it. Listen, I love it. I understand I'm selfish here. I get it because I'm not going to miss a second. I'm going to be walking in the building at 730. I'm ecstatic. But I do think we are like collectively Leaf fans and I've noticed this people in Toronto again just from
Starting point is 00:04:08 online reactions right you got to act like you've been here before the deeper you go into the playoffs the later games become right they don't play cup final games at 7 p.m. they play them at 8 or even 9 p.m. Eastern Time that's prime time that's when LeBron James is always played okay I can tell you the best teams play eight o'clock is eight o'clock that's prime time you gotta accept it I think there's no reason why any puck should drop after 7 p.m. that's just my personal opinion but go ahead and tell the people what on earth is going to happen in Winnipeg because if I was Chevy I would call Jerry and say don't even think about it we're dropping the pocket 730 local time.
Starting point is 00:04:48 The good people of Winnipeg will take any time to play. That's valid considering last night. With the sell on the time! Okay so on Wednesday the Leafs play game 2 at 7 p.m. Game 1 Jets Stars is 950 p.m. Eastern Time. So which is 850 local in Winnipeg. So that's crazy. It's 100% right because as a player you're going I'm gonna have three pre-game naps and all of this stuff. You're trying to get ready. Morning skates at two in the afternoon. Yeah probably would be. You will take it as a Winnipeg Jet fans because with three minutes left in the game yesterday, if you would have said hey we're gonna have a game on Wednesday at at two o'clock in the morning would you sign up for it all day I was all day exactly I was lying in bed with my arm
Starting point is 00:05:33 out on the power button my wife goes what are you doing I said well they're just about to lose here I'm gonna shut this thing right off and with 1.6 seconds like that might that might have been the best finish to a game I've ever seen. It was incredible. Shout out to Cole Perfetti because the tip he had both tips were remarkable. Like his first tip was incredible, but I thought the tire was even better because that went like bar down. Yeah, underneath the bar and it was a rocket from Ehlers, a rocket from Kyle Connor to
Starting point is 00:06:01 him. It was incredible, man. It was incredible. And the overtime was amazing. Like it wasn, it wasn't sitting back on our heels. No, it was playing. Like, they were gunning. Both goalies were on their game in overtime. I give the most credit in that play, not to Connors, not to Perfetti, to Ehlers who had,
Starting point is 00:06:18 like was thinking outside the box and said, because nine guys out of 10, and I'm talking like 1% the CID type Everybody would just say I got to get this on net. There's no time left And this guy went across the ice it was an incredible after a fan shot. Yes. Well, he broke his no He didn't break his thing. He's a fan, right? You're right lost in all this if we play it again Adam Lowry wins a puck battle to get him that puck back I know that's the crazy part. Like here he fans on it. Watch him reach in pop it back now scene. That's the crazy
Starting point is 00:06:50 part. Unbelievable. Lowry does a great job. He doesn't get an assist on that play. Obviously it doesn't matter who cares. But he got the winner so he's happy. Yeah you'll take that and it just in the end I don't know it was bananas for two nights in a row because this Miko ran tonight before was incredible insane like I read a stat that again I always try to preface it it was a stat but I think it was quite a reliable person on Twitter saying in the hundred years of the NHL they've had like seven comebacks you know in in after trailing head in the third period in game seven and that
Starting point is 00:07:23 they had two on consecutive nights Multiple goal comeback you have it stack. I have it. It's actually Dominic Moore I saw tweet this so Dominic's a smart guy said to go come backs in the third period to win a game seven in NHL History the first 106 years of the league. Yeah, there were three of them and there've been two in the last two days insane crazy Yeah, like crazy when you think about it. Now one of the previous three was of course in Boston in 2013. I know, I saw that one.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Really, dejected. Couldn't you have taken that off the board? I think we know that. I forgot about that one. I think we're aware of that. But that was one of the three. But anyway, which was a better game? If you had to go back and re-watch one of them,
Starting point is 00:08:03 would it be the Dallas win or the Winnipeg win which was the better game? Honestly down two with that little amount of time left I got to go with the Winnipeg Jets there's some Canadian bias in there but it's pretty damn close the Rantinen pulling the Roger Clemens looking up at the press box that's what sells it for the Stars win is the Rantinen angle like the guy four points in the third period. Yes. Two games in a row. Two games in a row he had four points in a period. But that's like from a storytelling standpoint I think the Ranton and Stars one is actually even more special and amazing when you consider
Starting point is 00:08:39 that he went through Carolina then into Dallas and you know Colorado had a two nothing lead going into the third and all of a sudden Rantinen just took over the game he did like completely took over the game now the Jets 1.6 seconds left and then they win a double overtime you really can't go wrong they're two of the most memorable game sevens you'll ever see in your life I think the Dallas Colorado game was more exciting to watch start to finish yes because the range of emotions from me watching the Winnipeg game going this Hellebuck is playing dodgeball again. They're getting out coach in the first period. Like I was, I, my heart hurt for him. Same dude. I was so nervous
Starting point is 00:09:16 for him in overtime. That Joseph one went in. I was like, I almost turned it off then. I thought they were going to pull him. That Joseph goal goal. I really did too Yeah, and you're chasing the game and it's like the the air has just come out of the building But you and and they're showing the outside the people outside and they're like, hey, we're trying, you know white out They're all just standing there in shock. Well because it's halibut exactly and the storyline had been halibut going in yes, but I The range of emotions like I'm into the third period going like all this they're gonna lose 3-1. We're gonna talk about the bad goals that Hellebuck couldn't get it done. Legacy. This guy's potentially gonna win the heart. They might hand him the heart this year. And I will say he was good in the third and in an overtime he looked like Hellebuck.
Starting point is 00:10:03 He looked great in overtime. Like Velarde almost gave, an overtime he looked like hell of a great overtime like velour de almost gave with that give away heat right in front of that i couldn't believe that and hella buck just looks so smooth on that and i was i was really happy for men in overtime because i i'm this may surprise some people i'm not pulling for a crazy story like him being awful in him getting pulled but i was prepared for today i'm hell of a europe s s with goalie here's why let me explain it went to the way you went to the well before
Starting point is 00:10:29 overtime and this is your i was passed out when i read it i think it's on the twitter emails all about those the boys of unbelievable i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i i like you went there. That's inaccurate. I said he owes perfection to his team. I read that. I'm like this bastard cannot leave this Hellebuck stuff. I can't, but here's why. Let me explain. Okay. TSN, we do our top 50 going into the year. Then we do our top 25 at the halfway mark. I had him number one on that list. Number one. And then I was doing hits and then why is he number one? I said, best player on the best team. End
Starting point is 00:11:03 of the year. Recap. I had him number one on that list said best player on the best team end of the year recap I had a number one on that list best player on the best team if I had a heart vote He would have got it for me. Yeah, he got mine like I have been pumping his tires all year, and I'm sorry He was horrendous. There's nothing you can like there's nothing. What do you want me to say the truth? He was awful. Yeah, it was terrible, but now he has a chance to like fully go Lloyd Christmas here reset Yeah, now I don't know if he will but Dallas buddy better Now he has a chance to fully go Lloyd Christmas year. It's a reset. It's a reset, yeah. Now, I don't know if he will, but he better. He has to. You're not beating Dallas if Hellebuck gets pulled twice and looks the way he looked.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Well, I've talked- Or three times. He got pulled three times. I've talked before about buying your teammates' time. Certain lines can win a series. I know when we had a run in Carolina, Rod Brendan-Mooreates Pataglia and Eric Cole, they want us a couple like and they were just buying our line like they you can buy each other time. Yeah, with performances. But it's almost like Hellebuck has bought himself some time.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Getting through a series when he had his we got to call it a C game. It wasn't even as big. I'm not sure it was a C game on the road. It was F. I'm sorry, you get pulled three times F on the road. That's an F. Let's it was a C game on the road. It was F. I'm sorry. You get pulled three times F on the road That's an F. Let's call it a C minus game But my point was you could have went you could have waited until after it was over and said Hello bucks Sean and overtime He failed the boys. I did that went right to the wall before over time He told them perfection them perfect and he gave them perfection
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yeah, he's credit. C is a bit rich, even if you average it out. Three F's and in a one game capsule last night, what would you give him as a letter grade? I'll give him a B because of what he did in the third and overtime. Both over times. And then the other two wins. Game two he was an A. Game one I'd say was a C. Right. So they're like, we're talking, he's barely is over the line. You do the, you know, great average curve. He's looking at a C minus anyway, he might have bought some time because if he gets back to a place, they could be dangerous. Absolutely right.
Starting point is 00:12:58 I could get healthy. I don't know what's up with Morrissey, but if they get lock, stock and barrel, they could be dangerous against the stars. Cause everybody's thinking the stars are just going to shred these guys. No. That is not going to be the case. I don't know. The way that Dallas looks, the way that Dallas plays and then you add in Haskin and you add in Jason Robertson.
Starting point is 00:13:19 I mean it looks pretty good for Dallas. I think Scheifle is coming back. It looks like he's skating, he's trying, you know, I don't know, concussion, wherever he's got going. The Morrissey, I don't know if that shoulder or elbow, there was something weird about that. Yeah, it was weird the way it went off. He looked like he couldn't and he was struggling. They never tried to come back. No. Like that looked like, you know, he was in some distress. And, yeah, I mean, I don't
Starting point is 00:13:42 know. Sometimes I always helped him, hoped that maybe, you know, subluxes yeah, I mean, I don't know sometimes I always helped it I hope that maybe you know it sublexes and you know a couple days settle it down But they need him this Neil Pionk man was he unreal? He was only never came off the ice I was so impressed ever came off the ice as you're looking Yeah, the game amber going but like you're looking at you know, it gets thinner Yeah, you're down to five the fence the mellow like they hung in there. They did a great job I think their system was a lot better a lot tighter Winnipeg will give him a run, but if you ask me, I think Dallas would and could be the favorite They're the favorite. Yeah, they're the favorite
Starting point is 00:14:12 I can tell you like listen as of the four series that are left. You got great series like you got Vegas Edmonton That's a dream Winnipeg Dallas, Carolina Washington, and then we got Toronto Florida starting tonight I believe the Leafs are the biggest underdog of any other team going into this series. Are you talking fan duel? I'm talking fan duel. Look that up. Based on opponent, yes. I think it's a combination of opponent and their own history, right?
Starting point is 00:14:35 Like they haven't been through the second round in over 20 years, so that is something that's going to come with it. And they were both playing the games today. The Leafs are saying, wow, we're the clear underdog. They're the cup champs. And Florida's saying, wow, they're the number one seed while we're the clear underdog there the cup champs in florida said while they're the number one see work really the underdogs it's an underdog off down at morning skate today well that i view game one
Starting point is 00:14:52 guys it should almost be a response game for the tron may believe they have watched this team for two years two and a half years march to the cup finals twice they're in their division all that people talk about is how burly and mean they are up front and how they overwhelm you on the four check how they squeeze things off in the neutral zone they force you to dump the puck how they're stingy and physical in the corners in their own zone how good they're going
Starting point is 00:15:19 they know everything the last thing that I want to do is go on that said at midnight tonight and say they just couldn't muster up a way to create they know everything they've gone through tape they watch them just dismantle the Tampa Bay Lightning so it's almost like you gather that information it's almost like there's been a game played and this is a response game issue gotta show Florida something game one to say this is what we're coming at you with instead of having everybody come out after and the coach come out after say, oh they are they had great structure and we couldn't You know, we had some turk, you know all that there's no way in hell that I'm buying that after the game
Starting point is 00:15:55 You knew it all. Yeah, they know that's what the hell you can do with it. I want to see some kind of Approach where it's like we knew you were gonna do that already and this is what we got for you. That's what I want to see tonight. It makes sense. You start hard and like don't wade your way into the series. Start hard and get to your game plan as quick as you can. If they wade their way into the series it'll be three nothing before you know it. I agree but I think you know Florida's a team they're a veteran team that won't be you know intimidated by anything. It's more about you know how are they a team their veteran team that won't be you know intimidated by anything it's more about you know how are they gonna start
Starting point is 00:16:27 and who's gonna counter who that's that's the way i look at it now you've got last change so you have the opportunity in your own building you do have the building behind you've got some things that you can get your mojo going and to be honest like the leafs played well against ottawa they need another level
Starting point is 00:16:42 like that's just that's just the truth absolutely and it's not you know i i think everyone to, they need another level. Like that's just the truth. Absolutely. And it's not, you know, I think everyone to a man needs another level, but when, you know, we always do the white board. When you're matching up against somebody, you know, these top players might cancel each other. It might be third line. It might be the goalies that match up,
Starting point is 00:16:58 or the defensive depth. Like there's so many things, but, you know, I think a good start goes a long way and it sends a message yes that's I said about the Iowa Senators in game three they have to punch the Maple Leafs and not just hit them but they got to knock them down and give them something to really think about the Maple Leafs got to do that right out of the gate they got to show them something yeah I think like it noodles just said if they weighed into it I'm telling you it'll be three three
Starting point is 00:17:24 not the three one before you know what the series is over I think of the eight teams game one means more to the Maples than at any other team I would think so any other team I think it's imperative they get off to a good start and I also think the mentality I'm curious I'd love to know what it is in the room because if you're intimidated if you you don't believe, then the series is over before it even starts. That's an important part of sports is that you got to believe you can beat these guys. That doesn't mean you got to sweep them.
Starting point is 00:17:53 You got to believe you can beat them four out of seven. I think the way you play game one and what you show game one will go a long way in that in terms of how you show up, how you prepare, how physical you are, whether you're're on your toes whether you know what's coming and you're willing to react to it and I even like I look at this in a weird way and think okay you gotta you know try to get a split at home that's a loser's mentality like you should never be thinking that way and it doesn't matter what I'm thinking I'm thinking from the outside and for me I could paint a picture of try to split the first two try to Split in Florida and shrink the series right get a better three
Starting point is 00:18:28 Yeah, and then just try to take it from there because the likelihood of winning in four or five seems very far-fetched But if you're a team with uber confidence, which again the Leafs should be because they haven't played since Thursday They're at home. They're healthy. They've had a really good season. They're a veteran team They get a cup winning coach behind the bench who was playing the game already, right? He was asked about how mean Florida is and he kind of almost scoffed at it, like really are they mean? He's not afraid of everybody.
Starting point is 00:18:55 No, exactly. He's standing there. I don't know if he's talking about, okay, this compared to my era, this has nothing on mean, which would be accurate, or if he's trying to send a message like, we don't look at anyone as mean, we mean we're physical and I think that's an important mentality to have because you got to show up tonight and you got to you got to be up for the fight like that's really what it is this is round one tonight like of a seven round fight like you got to show up and be on your
Starting point is 00:19:21 toes and go out and fight and it you may win you may lose but you you can't lose and look like you're already in a position where you think oh I don't know if we can compete with these guys yeah so I am I am fascinated to see how it plays out I do think it's uber important to least get off to a hot start here I think it goes a long way and just kind of allowing you to feel like okay we're on level here and we can do this. Quick prediction though and I'm asking it's not me predicting regardless of what happens tonight is it overreaction Tuesday tomorrow? Unless I don't think it is if it's a win. We have to consider the market we're in every time is over
Starting point is 00:19:56 reaction. Yes but I don't think you're gonna see a spin so far the other way where let's say the Leafs win tonight let's say they win comfortably tonight I don't think people are gonna reset and say all i knew it though now the least should be favored in their guaranteed to win that is a one-way street and so you lose and you get overwhelmed tonight and i would say here we go if they win game one whether whether it's convincingly or not we fans are always a gotta get game two or they're going to be in trouble yeah
Starting point is 00:20:19 that's always been exactly and especially against florida like again there there there the real deal and they're the bar that's been set in the league well doesn't mean you can't beat him but it doesn't mean like that like they're they're going out there and plan there are very good team but yeah i think that the biggest thing you come back to us you have a good start
Starting point is 00:20:38 and your players like you've got to get to your game right away top players got to play like top players and then you know the details special teams Goal-ten and this is the best chance they're gonna have right like you can't every year if you don't get through say well We ran into this team we ran in you're gonna run into a great every year You're a good team you're you're healthy you have home ice your best players have been through it your best players now have won Two rounds in the last three years not parade worthy, but still it's better than nothing you have had winning in the last couple years
Starting point is 00:21:09 and you know i i think you you feel good about stole ours now he's had a few days off he's big he's played well he looks comfortable you got a revenge element to his game going up against the panthers. You know him like it's it's you know i don't see an advantage to either yeah like bobs the favorite to be the better goalie clearly and he's worthy of that because he's Sergei Bobrovsky but but what you have with Bob the one thing is you don't have to out career him all you have to do is play in that particular game equal
Starting point is 00:21:40 or better yeah like that's the thing you were trying to have to again the broski if you looked at the length of career achievements all of that it's not even close that's not what you don't walk on he's not wearing tonight medals and that's no trophies in right at like it's it's he's trying to win the game stole ours are trying to win the game and and stole our success to play without how he's capable of playing you know it'll be a different like this will be a massive test I said this
Starting point is 00:22:09 the other day Ottawa fought them hard but that wasn't a hard-fought series if that makes sense yeah it was not a punch in the face contest it wasn't scrum Ottawa didn't take a piece of them every shift they got their attention is what happened yeah right no suspensions no the thing and you said everyone's healthy like the other teams we could go through every team that is still in the playoffs they're all you know there's pieces behind that are missing right like Leafs don't have that right now like knock on wood but that's what you you know you can go in assembled as a full team tonight. I don't know what it looks like tomorrow. That's a huge benefit. it is a huge benefit you better give
Starting point is 00:22:46 some back because brad marshan and sam bennett had an exchange last and i believe it was last year the year before where brad marshan came out i think bennett heard him yeah you can't arm them and they are not a lot of this a playoffs people are going to punch it wasn't a forearm that was by hidden punch in the day whatever it was they came came out they both agree that is playoff time in the
Starting point is 00:23:08 people are out there hitting the hurt people there and now those two animals on the same team so it's like you got and if they're not built that way but you just gotta give something back man yes and i do think that's it the mentality like you look at certain players and well this the core four let's just let's just cut to the chase. Okay, the core four players are wired They're not wired like Matthew Kachuk or Sam Bennett or Brad Marsh and that's not who they are. That's not how they play
Starting point is 00:23:32 No one's expecting that but you have to prove that you can play through traffic and that you'll go through traffic and Maybe you won't knock someone out with a hit but you can block a shot. There's no reason why you can't do that. Block a big shot. There's no reason why you can't get punched in the head and say I'm coming right back next shift. Like that's what is needed here. That type of mentality. Absolutely. Like just you got to shoot you and you can't have the body language where if you get sticked or hit where you're like looking at the ref, forget it. And that's where Borubic comes in. Don't start whining and
Starting point is 00:24:08 complaining just keep going and going and going. Arner had a couple little plays against Ottawa where it was like trying to get it forget that nonsense. Just fight. Like you got to fight and fight and fight and fight through every check and fight through everything and just keep showing up and keep going back and if you do that you're gonna give yourself a chance because you're a good team. The Leafs are a really good team. They are good goalie, really good defense, special teams are rocking. They've got uber talent. We all know. We all know what they are. So go out there and take care of your depth test it like I everything's
Starting point is 00:24:35 got to be there. That's what's got to like, if you look at it, it seems like lines one, two and four are pretty, you know what you're gonna get from them for the most part. Three is- You're talking Domi, McMahon and- Yarncrook. Yarncrook, or no, Yarncrook's for Lawton and Lorenz. Domi, McMahon and Humbert. Yes, yeah, because he's not putting Robertson in.
Starting point is 00:24:58 I think that's where, you know, that line has to give you something. Yes. And has to be noticeable in a positive way That line can be sneaky in terms of the for check in terms of the accidental on purpose stuff that we're talking about That's what I think you need but that's that's what I'm saying is they got to be because they're the other third line That's where is that? Yeah, Lundell and Lundell was there Ryan and yeah, Lester on it like that They're pretty good
Starting point is 00:25:23 They're a really good line and they can score and they can be mean and do all of that like again you come back to matchups Yeah, it's Lester Reinen, Landell and Marchand like they've got a little bit of everything on that line as well I think Lotton line is more likely to match with that I honestly think the Domey line is more of a fourth line in terms of five on five minutes Which would be fair to say yeah the way the other line plays in the first round But we'll see you've got an opportunity clean slate second round. That's the beauty of it. Yep, and it starts tonight right here on TSN 1050. All right, I have a five pack that I've been teasing for 72 hours.
Starting point is 00:25:55 The five people within the Maple Leaf organization that would benefit the most from a series win against the Florida Panthers. All right, the definitive five-pack come back with that We're again moving towards the game tonight James dot the O'Biann studio Continue to look back on what else happened over the course of the weekend the Jays are off tonight. They're on the West Coast starting tomorrow There's a lot going on in sports. We're here until seven. We got the game tonight overdrive continues TSN 1050 and on TSN for overdrive continues powered by TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. Overdrive continues powered by Fandool bringing you everything from the opening line of the final score. We'll get to our best bets a little bit later this afternoon. We got something to chew on coming up a little
Starting point is 00:26:34 bit later on as well. We've got three Canadian teams into the second round so three of the eight left are Canadian. What was our Jerry's in that? Weren't you at two and a half? Yeah I think the total I placed was two and a half you guys both were over you were both right I think I was under I was two seconds away from hammering that and then Cole Profetti scores and pushes it to double OT and the Jets are through. Good for Profetti man. Absolutely. You look at the playoffs and how physical it is little guy like that it's like can you get it done in these kind of circumstances?
Starting point is 00:27:05 So that's a great step for him to show everybody I can come through in some big moments. Big time. Big time. I mean, that's probably the biggest pro game, biggest game of his life. Absolutely. Absolutely. Timing of it. It was pretty cool to sit back and watch.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I've got friends on both sides, but you're just sitting there going, you know, city of Winnipeg, like I like, I felt good for them. Yeah, you gotta get through it, man. You won the President's Trophy, you had a great year. You were up two nothing in the series and three two in the series. I know. You gotta close, and they found a way to do it.
Starting point is 00:27:35 So more on that later this afternoon. We've got James Duthey coming up, CJ will join us, Jimmy Rell from the rink, the game's on TSM Radio tonight. All right, I have a five pack. The members of the Maple Leaf organization that would benefit the most from beating Florida. Okay? So you're ready for this? Five to one? I'm gonna go from five down to one. Is Joe from the Bridge prepared for this? Do you have any idea what his one will be? Yes. Barely obvious. Okay. I don't think. Alright. Let me get through it and we'll see. Okay. This one might surprise you guys. Yeah at number five I have Anthony Stoller's Anthony Stoller's at number five now. Let me explain this
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yeah, I thought about putting him even higher on July 1st. He can sign an extension. He signed a two-year deal Yeah, they be Florida. I guarantee you they signed him to an extension and I'll bet you it's a pretty it's it'll be reasonably lucrative Like he'll have earned i think a new deal i don't know what it looks like maybe three years of what five million per six million per like i think it's a big payday in terms of his career the amount of money he could have i'd like a letter are saying walls gonna wanna house
Starting point is 00:28:38 this is not i i i'd i'd i'd need more uh... like any more sample size. He played 30 games this year. Okay, 30 games, great stats. He gets them to the conference final. You think they're gonna say we want you to play out
Starting point is 00:28:53 the rest of the season next year? I don't think it's priority number one. I think there's a guy who wears number 16 that might be like priority number one. He's on the list. He's on the list. But again, Stolaris will kick in after next year. Yeah, I'm just saying like eligible and all that.
Starting point is 00:29:06 I just, I'm not as horny to throw out a long-term deal on. No? Okay. No, I mean like just based on, listen, he's had a great season and he's establishing himself as a number one, but you just said five million or whatever. Well, I'm throwing out numbers arbitrarily like okay so that you're assuming next year he would be have to play 50 games for now not necessarily next year's make it two million yeah it's not about next year it's the year if the years after that wouldn't you say something with that dollar value might make sense just because of the sheer
Starting point is 00:29:39 lack of guys available I agree like I'm not taking it like don't get me wrong. I love the goaltender I think he's played great in that I'm just saying I don't think it would be priority like hey You got to lock this guy in and and and that's it because you do have time Well, and you have the other guy under contract to July 1 is when you can do it I'm not saying that on July 1st at noon You're gonna hear about an extension for Stollers, right? But I think if he continues to play well, if he does what he has to to get through Florida and then we see where it goes beyond that,
Starting point is 00:30:10 I could see his representative calling up the Leafs saying, hey, he's got a year left on his deal, he pulled his, he more than pulled his weight, he's already pulled his weight. He likes it here, do you want to, anyway, I could see that being the case, could be wrong. But furthermore, this is a big scenario for him because he was the backup in Florida right he watched this team he was a part of this team he won a Stanley Cup with them right but it was Bob's net it always was the idea from a legacy standpoint he goes down the street within the division meets them in the second round and beats Bob huge for legacy and confidence so I got
Starting point is 00:30:44 Stoller's at number five. Number four, I have Craig Barube. I have Craig Barube at number four. Pat Burns, Pat Quinn, that's it. Those two are on an island in this city for the last 40 years. Maybe more than that, honest. Maybe 50, 60 years in terms of like,
Starting point is 00:31:00 the coaches everyone loves, everyone revered, and they always found a way to help their team with again it's not the cup final i'm not trying to set this up as if that's what round were in word not but the least of not been into a conference final in twenty three years if you're the coach not only in toronto but also lead why that not helps knock out the panthers i think that's massively significant
Starting point is 00:31:23 for craig berube and got Barubei at four. And I hope Craig Barubei is like, you see the tenure John Cooper sat in Tampa, I hope that something like that happens here. Because you just look at the simple principles and fundamentals that he brings to the table, it's not that hard. Work your ass off, you got to do what I tell you to as far as what you're doing on the ice. Everything after that, it's just all simple stuff and that's all the fans
Starting point is 00:31:46 want but it'd be massive for him. Oh it would be. It'd be very significant. I just want to hear the rest of the list before that one because he wouldn't be my number four. I think there's four guys that would be ahead of him. Okay at number three I have Austin Matthews. Okay. I have Austin Matthews at number three now first-year captain right he's the best player on the team any has been basically since he arrived we've talked about this endlessly everywhere else in the league whoever
Starting point is 00:32:12 the best player is they have the most responsibility they have the most on the line that applies here it should apply here right i think it does in many ways uh... but i i think austin matthews i got him at three again because first year captaincy I mean I could go on and on and on what it would mean for him as legacy league wide how he changed his game this year to an extent and applied whatever Borube wants him you know how he wants him to play and the fact that it contributes all of a sudden that spins into a Stevie Y Bowman type element conversation. I got, I got Matthews at three.
Starting point is 00:32:46 I got no argument here for that one. No, I would have him high on my list too. Just because he is the face of it and success or non-success will be tied to him. He'll be the guy on that locker clean out getting he's the face on in front of him. It's not John Tavares. It's not John Tavares like we've seen in past years. It'll be the on in front of a base on the voice of it. It's not John DeVos like we've seen in past years. It'll be the microphone in front of him as it should be. Austin Matthews. Okay. This is the top five the Leafs with the most to gain from beating the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:33:12 This is throughout the organization at number two. Shout out Mitch Marner. Shout out to the Marner family. Right. They had a son yesterday. Incredible. Yeah. It's his birthday today.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Like Mitch is winning at life right now. You got a kid. You got a young family. it's his birthday today. Like Mitch is winning at life right now. You got a kid, you got a young family, it's your birthday today. You got round two at home in Toronto against the Panthers. But I got Marner at two. And this is in large part because contract, the contract, um, you know, the, the puffing of your chest, the breathing easier, if there is an breathing issue, again, the ranting and stuff was pretty loud on Saturday night. There's Miko ranting and that's one hell of a playoff performer. Yeah. Right. Like that guy elevates significantly every single time he's in the playoffs. It doesn't matter if he's in Colorado or if he's in Dallas. That's what the big comparable was because people come out to me and they're like, that's why you signed Mitch right there. And I said, well, let's
Starting point is 00:34:01 not forget one thing. He's got to go out and go out and perform exactly you want to be in the same breath as that guy and say I get what that guy gets go out and do what you got to perform like that have to be three goals in one period or points in one period but you got to be a game-changer in a difference maker versus somebody to say that's why we paid you that absolutely that there it is it is not quite apples to oranges but it's also not apples. It's like apple slices to apple cores. I don't know, I got to come up with something. But it's not the same because Ranton, you look at his points per game in the playoffs, I believe he's top
Starting point is 00:34:35 10 all time. All time in the history of the Stanley Cup Playoffs. That's how good he is. He has better numbers in the playoffs than in the regular season. He's a 50 goal scorer in the regular season. But I think again, again with Mitch Marner because of all the noise Right that surrounded him and the way that he has been I think analyzed in the playoffs Compared to even the other guys. I got Mitch Marner at two. All right, you could flip him and Matthews. Yeah, I mean I Got Mitch it too though. There was no doubt in my mind that those players needed to be on this list. Okay number one on the list You seem to know exactly who I I have a guess but I was gonna say shanny to Brendan Shanahan number one Yeah without question in my opinion because he has been he has been I think stubborn at times
Starting point is 00:35:21 I think he's been bold at times. I think at at times he said I don't care what everyone else thinks what everyone else sees right I believe in this program I believe in these players I believe in this system this philosophy he brought in a new GM a new coach in the last 24 months they've turned over the whole roster except for the five guys we know, four, four plus Riley, and he's been here for a decade. And again, it's easy to chip away at him and say, compared to his predecessors, he's done a remarkable job. And when he immediately got in and he shifted the plan and they bottomed out, but they did so very well and they picked the right people and they He did a great great job the first four or five years on the job It's not that he's done a poor job since then but you had to get to the next level, right? Like it's totally reasonable go talk to Rob Blake in LA. It's like, all right
Starting point is 00:36:15 Now you got to get you got to go to the next level Yeah, and let's see what kind of payback the players give them because you talked about his belief in them The belief there's the contracts. There's the money. it's all been there for the players so let's see what kind of exactly I got Brandon Shanahan and number that's for that's where I was gonna go to because it's it's been his show for a decade yeah and they've have to playoff wins to playoff rounds to show for it so far yes that's you know now you got to get you got to get greedy man I keep pushing yeah but he's the guy and I believe I don't know if it's contract status or whatever but he hasn't been very visible
Starting point is 00:36:50 you did see him the other night they didn't show him the other night on Thursday I don't think there's any question I'm joking but I'm not I I think it just I it was nice to see him though I hadn't seen him in a long time yeah he's been a poker room and see him though. I hadn't seen him in a long time. Yeah, he's been a poker room. Nice to see him enjoying his team type of thing. You feel helpless. I can't imagine what the managers feel. They've done their job.
Starting point is 00:37:13 They're sitting there watching. You talk about that. They were panning to Army last night when they were up three one. He was kinda like looking at his team. And then. In overtime he looked like he was in almost in shock. I felt bad.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Not bad. The wrong word. They panned to try and find Chevy and Chevy, he was going through the roof. Like I don't know where he went. You could see his face and then when it went in, he was gone. Which I was so I wanted to say they had a bad angle of it. So I wanted to see that would have, I was so happy for Chevy. Like, talk about a guy who's, you know, been up against it and Winnipeg isn't, you know, the market sometimes to get people and all that.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I don't know if you guys saw Adam Lowry's extended interview last night. I thought it was fantastic. Yeah, it was great. We love our city, we've got guys who are dedicated to it. But you know, Brendan Shanahan, coming back to your list, Brandon Shanahan, this has been his vision 10 years and this is their biggest test. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It's the big, it's the only way you're gonna get people to really see eye to eye. Like listen, they may decide to continue with this plan well into the future, you know, if all the parties want to continue to do it, and I guess we're talking specifically of Marner and Tavares, it may not matter the results here, because again in the past it hasn't. They've been so committed to it, but I don't think
Starting point is 00:38:36 there's any questioning if you beat Florida, it flips everything. And again, it's not that this is a cup final, but I think it's not. I mean, but you have to be reasonable in terms of what you're comparing the Leafs to the Leafs, not to Vegas, not to Florida or to Tampa or to other teams who have won cups or been to cup finals, right, they have different standards, they have they have a different goal in mind, maybe the Leafs getting through this team, the way this team's built, the way this team plays, what this team did to them two years ago, and getting to a conference final for the first time in 23 years would be massively significant. Sure. And you know, I wish I could put the fans at the top of the list, but they obviously don't apply here. But they deserve it, they've earned it. That was another great thing about Winnipeg. Like, they're just great fans. Not that they aren't in St. Louis,
Starting point is 00:39:27 but it was just awesome to see everyone standing for the whole overtime. Well, I don't think you could sit. Unless you, you know, they always say, like, stand if you can type of thing. Yeah. If somebody can't. We gotta play the Jets Pump Up Stanley Cup video.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Have you seen it? No, I've seen that. No. Is it good? It is taking the internet by storm okay all right I'm intrigued I saw some songs I saw some memes the other day of like jets taking off and a guy throwing a paper airplane into crashing and stuff like that when it didn't look so good I haven't seen the pump up video every fan base every team has a fan or two that tries to get creative and
Starting point is 00:40:05 Well, what about the one guy in Ottawa that had the guitar and that one like though? Like ice faces everywhere everywhere there. He's like getting mean where people are putting like business face on his head like Yeah, and the the couple in Edmonton last year during the cup final, I don't remember them. The girl with the vest? No, no, no, that was a very different story. That was, remember, she was. That was after they won. Yes, she ripped her top off, and they were interviewing her.
Starting point is 00:40:33 I'm not familiar with her. Yeah, she was trending. I don't know the couple. Oh yeah, the couple, I think we played it. I don't know if they're a couple, but they were a duo, and they were singing a song, and it was really corny and bad. And it was like, don't know if they're a couple but they were a duo and they were singing a song and it was really Corny and bad and it was like dry
Starting point is 00:40:48 Titles the best like it as bad as Al's Brothers whatever that stupid song yeah that we had to cut off Yeah, we had another bro She had the shanty and then he did like the Bieber knockoff and then we were like that's enough I'll spread it well Al's Brothers do that I believe Al's Brothers brother is quite talent Al's brother's brother is a music superstar We're not doing no more, but we can't do shanties and we can't do that. I can't do that stuff. Yeah No, you're right. We're not doing it. It's not gonna happen Alright something to chew on brought to you by Boston pizza coming up. We got Duffy in studio in about 15 minutes
Starting point is 00:41:22 We're chugging towards game one tonight least panthers right here on t s m radio overdrive continues yes and then fifty and on t s m four you want to hear it for you got a really very so now i'd like to hear this what are we hearing when we listen here this is the jets and i think they do this to get clicks and get attention this is the jets pump up vid We want the Stanley Cup! L-O-R-R-I-S-E-Y Josh Morisya, he's our guy
Starting point is 00:42:06 Who are you? Now we watch the game We got a hockey game tonight We want the Stanley Cup! What's the name of their mascot? Is it like a moose or a horse? Well, yeah, the moose is the American League team Yeah, but what, like, I'm not...
Starting point is 00:42:21 What is his name? Mickey Yeah, there's a moose in there Mickey Mickey Moose Yeah, see, I don't know know mascots like I don't know their names and all that What's a leaf stand? What's his Carlton the manlier? No, it's Carlton. I was a catchy tune. It was a catchy. All right I'll give you that I feel like people I think they're it feels like it's almost It's like sarcastic in nature. Like they know people are gonna carve it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Right? I can't. But you know it's gonna go viral at the same time. Well, we call it is now. So like a cop, it wasn't before. They gave it some oxygen. Mission accomplished. There you go, like good on them. Like I say, they woke up today.
Starting point is 00:42:55 Can you imagine the range of emotions of a Winnipeg jet fan last night? Craziest game ever, man. Like I guarantee you, there's people like did what he did. Turned his TV off for five minutes left and said I'm disgusted like Shife Lee doesn't play Morrissey leaves in the first period and hellebuck is hellebuck is giving up muffins and you're like here we go they're gonna they're gonna actually do it again they're gonna lose and blow it and then everything's gonna have to be
Starting point is 00:43:19 reset and they miraculously come back and then they win it in double overtime was incredible and as a result they're the last team to get into the second round. The rest of the league was sitting there waiting and something to chew on is brought to you by Boston Pizza, Canada's favorite sports bar. This playoff season Boston Pizza is planning the parade and has a new all-star playoffs menu for you to enjoy. For pizza, pints and puck drops, visit your local Boston Pizza pizza today we're asking what's your jerry's percentages wow we're bringing a little mini jerry to boston pizza love it what's
Starting point is 00:43:50 your mini jerry that a canadian team now reaches the stanley cup final 25 50 75 100 well what is it three out of eight what's that percentage that's thirty thirty seven percent or something that's we're going with that i only deal with okay you're going with specific math as opposed to an actual option that we have thirty seven and a half percent okay uh... answer what was it as an point five what was the math again while it's the leader in the clubhouse is twenty five percent forty seven percent of the
Starting point is 00:44:24 vote is saying 25 percent, 50 percent, 75 percent, 100 percent. I'm going 100 percent. To where? The what? One Canadian team makes it to the cup final. We got three tickets, there's eight teams left. They're not playing each other right now. I know. I'm giving you a 100% that there's a Canadian team in the cup final. I'm not going to say who I think it is. That you have a ballsy Jerry. It was, I didn't expect it. I'm feeling good now. I, I'm, I'm through the first round jitters and I feel like we settle in.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Yeah, I don't know. I'm, I'm 50%. 50%. Okay. I mean they're all in tough, man. All three of these teams are in tough. They're all underdogs, I would say, in all three series. Florida, Dallas, Vegas, up against Toronto, Winnipeg, Edmonton. Yeah, I'm 50%. You see, like, there's some noise out there that maybe Stuart Skinner could start being one. there maybe stewart skinner could start on one he's so yesterday or today yesterday he was in the starters net and haven't to today he's in okay occurred was in the you have about the are they really are the poll would you start hellebuck in game one versus dallas i saw that one today or really i just i didn't see that i think he's i mean obviously hellebuck
Starting point is 00:45:38 has got a star bang yes he's playing for sure and maybe he maybe he just takes off you know i like that is terrifying for Dallas if that happens I would love to see him take off because it would be a great story yes you got three skated through the first round thanks to your teammates yeah and now you throw the team on your back and it's like let's get cook in here yeah that's possibly a very dangerous dangerous combination there all right our two coming up James Duthey will join us in studio as we look ahead to Game 1 Leafs Panthers tonight.
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