OverDrive - OverDrive - May 6, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' opening win against the Panthers in the second round, Sam Bennett's hit on Anthony Stolarz, if it should have been suspendible and Joseph Woll's significant role in the crease with the Maple Leafs. The guys go around the hockey world in the latest edition of Confirm or Deny and the view of O-Dog's dressing room.

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What's going on? Hazy B, my man high ashton yesterday i wanted you to put a florida man headline because the florida man headlines are insane can you put up for the man headline on what you witness last night bald-headed bearded florida man

i was mass man and avoids detection exactly you could go on and on and on i was gonna say causes havoc ron cady and soil or reach average reach out at on canadian soil of that all the headed bearded bearded florida man i reax has man A bald-headed bearded Florida man wreaks havoc. A tax mask man avoids detection. Friends of the Masked Man seek revenge.

That would be your Florida guy Florida man headline today. Hey, send a man to Hazy B if you've got any Florida man headlines from what you saw last night. Man, there's a lot of potential. There's a lot of potential for different headlines A lot of potential because what a game man. That was a soap opera last night It was unlike anything I can recall experiencing like in the building being there Just because of the craziness of like what's on the ice what's off the ice then you get I was getting texts from people saying

Hey, Storrs is on a stretcher here. And I'm like, really? Man, like honestly, I sent you that too, Hayes. Has this week of hockey and on and off the ice been more insane than you could ever think about it with the Colorado game, Colorado Dallas, into the Winnipeg game, into what we saw last night, and the stories within the stories, and you know, listen, first and foremost, I hope Anthony still, I don't know if there was updates today, I didn't see that, Craig Borubey didn't rule him out for tomorrow,

I don't know what the hell that was. There's no chance he's playing tomorrow. Well, I hope not. Zero percent chance he's playing tomorrow. But the range of emotions going through it, we were in the group text, I'm like, hey, it seems fine. And then you're like, I just I heard he's on a stretcher. And I'm like, he's out of the building. Like, it was just the weirdest. Had that all gone down all at once, then we're talking a different story here today, if you

ask me, because if he stays down, he's stretchered off and that then it's it's crazy but the delay in between like That's where I don't know like it's just it's the weirdest thing and you know you guys know me I'm a goalie hugger, so I believe that No, a goaltender should be Able afforded to his space well what extent then last night are you gonna go on the record and say sam bennett should have been suspended no i don't know because i thought that that's what's important like if a galley hugger a self-provessed goalie hugger yes saying no

then i think that's something significant to point out because of the goalies are going to put their hands up and say you gotta save us from this ran i don't know what anyone else can really i said i like people on twitter i i get its least nation they're going nuts, they think the bearded bald guy Florida man is completely insane and he's ruining Maple Leafs' lives. He went to the net, and the only way I could describe it last night was there wasn't a vicious elbow. He bumped into the goaltender.

There's been way other crashes into the net that have been way more egregious that have been called or haven't been called everybody and let me just inform you of this that the players they're not fascinated and fixated on this like everyone else's they have to focus on taking trying to take a stranglehold in the series with Joseph Wall in the net you first of all I don don't know how they're going to handle this because clearly they're pissed off. Nobody wants somebody taking their goaltender. It was just like when Corey Perry accidentally kneed John Tavarez in the head and Folina went up to him and said, look, man, I don't care if it was an accident or not.

That's my captain. He's stretchered off and you're going to have to pay the price. Other than Max Domi, I don't know who would want to do that tomorrow night because Sam Bennett is a tough customer. And do you want to go chasing that guy around the ice? This used to be handled like this. A 6-1 game in February next year. If anybody can handle their own business with Sam Bennett, that's what it would be handled.

But if you want to chase the guy around on the ice and somebody take a five-minute major for high sticking or slashing or whatever, and they score two goals in the power play and you cost yourself, you're a bunch of dummies. So this is going to be handled later. Maybe there's a blowout coming in this series where somebody wants to do something. But like I said, if you're going to do something, watch out because that guy's pretty tough. Last night was the night to do it though. Like it was 4-1 going into the third period. By then they knew what had happened to Stollers. They knew that Sam Bennett was the reason he wasn't in there. Whether it was, listen, he took a slap shot to the mask earlier in the game. There's a lot of people trying to connect them. I don't obviously know exactly what led to it, but this

is where people's focus is at. And I hear what you're saying, but you mentioned it, Nick Foligno jumped on the ice and said, you gotta pay a price right now. Now Nick Foligno is a tough customer, so is Corey Perry. I don't know who that would have been or should have been on the leaves, but I'm agreeing with you moving forward that that ship has sailed now.

Like the time to do it was last night. The time to say, you know what, you gotta pay a price here and you gotta step up and if you don't, we're gonna drag you into it or I'm gonna drag you into it, whoever happens to be that guy, whether it was Domi or McMahon or McCabe, there's a number of guys who maybe were capable of doing it.

It may not have gone well for them. And I don't know what Craig Barube's marching orders were because after the game he was asked the question about his team's response and he had to pause. You guys heard it. He hit like because I could tell you if he was on the ice and it was 1987 what would have happened? Like we all know what would have happened. It would have been a very different story and he collected himself and I think rightly so because they won the game.

I think it would have also been a very different reaction to everything if they had a loss. That's a big part of this right now. I think that allows you to have the comment you just had, oh, and the opinion you had. If they lost, they blew that game and Bennett's walk, like skating off the ice smiling, that's then a very different complexion. another absolutely it was mandatory they held on to win that game which they did they deserve the game they played great last night and now that's the it's almost frustrating in a way that obviously there's so much focus on this and there should be because of who we're dealing

with here both Sam Bennett and Stollers we're talking about the starting goalie who I don't think there's a chance he's playing tomorrow and I don't know when he's gonna play again I mean who knows when he'll play again that's the reality well and that's the reality it's a man if it's a concussion it's mandatory a week is that not the like that's the concussion protocol like that's the my understanding is the concussion protocols mandatory a week like that's three four games Like that's the, my understanding is the concussion protocols mandatory a week. Like that's three, four games. Like that's... I think you have to have like 48 hours symptom free and then you can start ramping up your

on. I don't know what it is. Well, they were careful to announce what it was too, right? Maybe because of that. Cause the spotter didn't get them out of there. There was no spotter. Because he played for 10 minutes more. I get that. I understand that. That's the crazy part about all of this and I'm still trying to piece it together and I don't know how you guys feel about this.

Okay, I was once knocked out with a slap shot to the chin. So he took a shot in the chin. It wasn't a slap shot but it's still it. When you get a direct shot in the chin, you feel it, regardless. You could maybe tie the two together. I'm not a doctor, so I'm not going to say, well, that happened earlier and this one happened

earlier. We're just putting the facts in front of us. He has the Bennett with the forearm shiver to the back or side of the head. He's unsuspecting. Keep in mind, with a shot, you know it's coming, so you can try and brace. Unsuspecting, you're battling for the puck, you're battling for position increase, you don't know that that headshot's coming. So that surprises him.

But the weirdest part for me, and I'm not going to make an excuse for it, is he played. He got up, he played, and he had a TV timeout where he was yucking it up with Wall. It seemed like, finally, this is what they showed on TV as you were at the building but then the next TV time out it goes south for him and and now he's got to leave and then we get word that he's leaving on a stretcher which is very concerning yes exactly that's extreme yes you wonder when the adrenaline comes off maybe you know something else because a lot of times we've been injured and you get hurt during a game this guy's adrenaline would have been through the roof he would have been able to battle through anything because he's in a

playoff mode you know game one like you're but the adrenaline comes down and now maybe some symptoms pop in there that are very concerning so that's first and foremost what I'm concerned about but the way it all went down like first like the ref missed it that should have been a penalty. That's definitely a penalty at a minimum it's it's a penalty and this this is the thing with with Sam Bennett in particular right and I'd love to get you we talk about truth serum all the time like how George Paros in the league and the Department of Player Safety they

feel about how this guy continues to push their buttons because he does so many things that are right on the edge of the playoff line like the gray area in the regular season is one thing it expands in the playoffs by each round it gets further and further and further and this guy is straddling it to the millimeter well did he anything for the Marchand punch in the face? Nothing and that's the point. So two years ago he does what he does to Nyes, nothing. Now listen, you can look at that what he did with Nyes and say they battled, they're coming

together and blah blah blah. He knows what he's doing there. Like he's like I'm going to win this battle, I'm going to bury this guy because if you want to get into a tussle with me I'm going to win it. He knew exactly what he was doing with punting. We're watching it right now two years ago Buries him with a cross check nothing from the league. Here's one on Jake neighbors earlier in the year I guess again not in the playoffs So a different story the one on Marchand last year was vicious man

That was vicious and he knew exactly what he was doing and the league did nothing and that is where I think leaf fans and other fan bases around the league are justifiably frustrated with the league because you can't look at this one which I think was the the least like egregious or vicious of all the examples we just gave and the truth is 99 times out of 100 the goalie gets up moves on with the game moves on and with his life and we forget it a shift later there's nothing to it the up, moves on with the game, moves on with his life and we forget it a shift later. There's nothing to it. The guy just moves on. The reaction, it exploded because of what happened with Stolarz. The result of Stolarz has led to the explosion here. But if you're the league, you're looking at Sam Bennett

and his lineage of transactions and transgressions and you're saying, I didn't make you pay that price, I didn't make you pay this price, I didn't make you pay this price, so I didn't make you pay that price I didn't make you pay this price I didn't make you pay this price so I can't make you pay this price and that's the frustration I think is if you made him pay for the other stuff that he did which I think were just I think the thing on Marchand last year should have been a suspension like that was that was intentional and vicious man and he didn't and they didn't suspend him so you're not gonna suspend him for that he's not on the books you're not gonna suspend him for this well they just keep poking of the legal side come get me you can't

get me but in the end haze you're right and at the lineage but last night is that's not a suspend the bullhead that's what your you know i hear you know those but if you always talk about the books from before... There's no books! You're right, and that's a great point, because I was just going to say... I love that line. Well, but you're right.

It's a great line. There's no books, there's no books. But I was just going to say, if he was on the books from before, then a fine or an agree display like that adds to it and goes, okay, we've got to clip you because you're a repeat offender from here, here, and here. Right, and right we've warned you and we got our eyes on you and that's what i'm saying there's a part of me that almost like it's like he's looking at the league sent come you can get me what are you gonna do to me

as you think he's gonna stop he's not gonna stop wait till saturday at the time i was a tenors noodle said protect the goal you gotta protect the teams because you can have a you can't have a guy taking out players and then the other team who can deal with it themselves and a team like Toronto they just don't necessarily handle business like that and that's for you to make your own decision on what that's all about right but you can't have a guy running over a goalie and there's no consequences and then the next the next night the goaltender doesn't play but guys in this particular instance I get what you're saying about

the books I honestly don't know and there's a concussion expert I guess he's all over this he's tweeting about it non-stop and I'm saying if you throw up it's it's really serious and you got to go to the doctors and you know the wrist shot might have influenced. I don't know. But I don't know if what he did, he took the puck to the net and bumped into the goal. I understand that. There was nothing vicious there man.

Like it wasn't even his elbow. It was the backside of his glove that glanced against the side of his helmet. It's trying to suspend him. Do you believe Bennett when he says, i didn't even know i made contact you believe that of course not i i i don't play as you know course they know he had a look to the side

his nose would have went like this exactly he knew what he was doing and he was like i'm coming through and i i'm not going to move i'm not going to chicken wing but i'm not going to move and if i get you i get you and that's that's what i'm saying is that it's a stanley cup playoff i get into the net and then they're going to put the peter pan but that's the question or around that's the question i'd ask you guys from a leap perspective

because i i appreciate the rubies approaches like i'm done with it i'm not talking about it in the least i can be quiet the quiet guy doesn't mean that it's necessarily settled. Like again, that doesn't mean they're going to fight Bennett. It's Pat Quinn. Yeah exactly. I'm not saying anything. I'm gonna stand over here for 13 years and watch out. And I think what you're getting at is like if the league isn't gonna do anything and I get I'm not trying to overreact to this play because I agree with your assessment. I don't believe that that in a nutshell is a suspendendable play But if Bennett is a guy that is we know how he's gonna play

Historically in this league if the league doesn't take care of it the players do and that's where I'm curious where the like I guarantee You the Leafs are saying Something to the league the sorts of no we're good Don't but don't if we if something happens on our end don't even think about suspending one of our guys. And I think the bigger story of this going into game two is now if you're the Leafs, I'm not focusing on Sam Bennett, I'm focusing on the protection of Joseph Wall.

You're a Joseph Wall injury away from Dennis Hildeby being in that, or Matt Murray being in that. So I'll bet you Brad Treel bet you Brad tree living is sending a notice to the league. And Barubei is telling his guys if someone steps foot close to wall. Knock their teeth out like you got you got to lose your mind

if someone goes close to him. Crazy idea that you have to wall is now under the gun. And I know, Jamie, you and a bunch of other people said if they're going to go on a run run they will probably at some point need both goaltenders to step in. I did not see these circumstances happening but I'll tell you what sometimes you just told to play and you got to go in there and you got to play well and he's got to avoid that one where it just looks like he doesn't even see it or knows what's going on because those are backbreakers

I get it it was a difficult situation One was a blown coverage and the guy tipped it onto the net. This one here, this just, I'm sorry, I don't even know that guy's last name. I can't go in. No, he ripped it under the bar. Yeah, he's a good NHL player. Don't even know how to say his last name. That should not be going under the bar. Like you got to make that save there. And that's been the thing with him that one goal even if he has a stellar performance it's just that one goal where you're like man that one's got an odor to it it's just can't happen well he's under the gun he's got to play

good you're a hundred percent right the guy at the other end allowed three bad goals yesterday that is this maybe the biggest story I don't like Bob was terrible last night I thought he was awful here we call it no he he's not a i'd just as a price you didn't have surprise you didn't text us well i'm not done with you guys are the first out of the first time you should have access bob head is on the side not texting you guys about anything in the heart what are you talking about we were i've got to do you guys this was an awful goal

tenets one tenets even like that is our fear is like the back away and i was great it like he did that was big in five off bob is not something i had on the bingo car i mean i thought would be the under yesterday well you're right here you text me and god bill i'd the overs are the others blown through the roof or whatever but this one but he you heard ten of i don't know if i mean all you would have because you

listen to ten of the But this one, like you heard Tanev, I don't know if, I mean, oh, you would have because you listened to Tanev's media, but he goes- It bounced several times. I was just trying to, he goes, I was just throwing it towards Knives' stick. He goes, it bounced a couple of times. I was like, it was in the back of the net. Lost in all of this because there were so many crazy storylines is, Bobrovsky was no good. Like that, good on Willie to shoot from there if we were talking today about 30 seconds into the series and Sam Reinhart shoots from on

the goal line yeah and it goes in like I mean first shot of the game first shot of the series you're going that go where guys Bob didn't look good last night not his best performance let's have a complete understanding that the Panthers Bob all of it they're gonna be better game too well yeah nobody needs to go down in an 0-2 hole but even if they do they're probably not gonna sweat it that much but the first period and you can argue maybe the first two periods that was the first time with these guys and I've always talked about the Chicago It's all about the intensity and answering the bell come playoff time

and it seems like in the past the Maple Leafs would kind of sag or fade into a game and it's like you don't notice anybody and Intensity in the physicality and I met in the past I mentioned the Chicago Blackhawks who weren't exactly rough-and-tumble customers But you know what they did? Showtime, Taze, Patrick Sharp, all those guys, they just played better than the other team. And last night, in the first and second period, is one of the first times where I'm like, maybe it's taken this long for it to click into these guys. They were on their toes, and they just played better. And they took it to them.

They didn't fall into the trap of saying oh there's gonna be no space out there we just gotta dump it maybe we get it maybe we don't and then after the game we're gonna say maybe our structure and our details weren't there they took it to the Florida Panthers I get it Bob wasn't good but they kinda forced him into a hole to not be good. I thought that for like it was one of those times,

like even the excitement of Morgan Reilly after this goal. When have you ever seen that reaction to him where he's just swearing and just jacked up? I thought it was awesome. And for the first time I was like, maybe now they understand that there's a different level. And I mentioned it yesterday, guys, in the afternoon. It's like, you've got to find something that you've never brought to the table before. Remember a couple years ago I think it was obviously against LA when McDavid like it clicked for him and he went into like nuclear McDavid mode and it was like this guy's finally got it that he can be the total difference maker and change the game. That first two periods this is

that's as good as I've seen those guys play. I totally agree. I thought I thought their first period that's the best period I've seen those guys play. I totally agree. I thought I thought their first period. That's the best period I can remember them playing all year and at any playoff period I can recall in years Yeah, it wasn't all the big bad Florida Panthers. They were outstanding They were standing and I think Willie scoring that quick was so significant To allow yourself to breathe and to allow yourself to realize okay Bob is human and let's clarify like bob bob would want the first one back um... he'd want the tan of go back will be second eyelid i don't know if i

realize was a good guy i i would agree with that i although i said that a lot about how about the last round you guys jumped on me but needless to say we'll move on from that uh... you're right though that was a hella bucky in goal that he gave up there but it's a two on 1 and he's cheating maybe. I'll leave that to you, the technicalities. The point I'm trying to make, Nylander's second was a beauty, man.

That was a beautiful goal and the Nice goal was a beautiful goal. Like it was, it was, because the significance of the Nice goal was that Domi was just in a loan like two minutes before that to make it five-three, and he tried to go shelf, and Bob made the stop on him, and then the game, I can't tell you how nervous the energy was in the building, I'm sure you guys can imagine, when it's four-three, you're thinking, seriously? Like, they're gonna come back, and everyone's chugging,

and then Nyes, you know, much like he did in the previous round, he takes off and just pulls off a beautiful move the hands to go top shelf it was just an incredible goal and don't forget just for everybody's knowledge I don't think it was a dominant performance from Mitch Marner I don't think it was his best game but that pass right there that assists tonight massive contribution to the game big time and that's that's just finding a way to not necessarily have your a game but it's a massive contribution if he just kind of dogs it and doesn't get to that pop that play doesn't happen he made the play it's a massive play in a game yeah so build off

of that one moment and try to turn it into a whole game the next one absolutely contribution man yeah it's a big it's a big start and you know obviously this the stroller scenario has changed the complexion of the series, and it'll be significant. I will say this, and I'm curious where you stand on this, Noodle. Like two of the three goals were really shaky. There's no denying that. But it's a tough spot.

Like to go in, you're up 4-1. I'm sure you've been in that situation where your teammates are looking around, they're like, Wall's going in? What are we doing here? Like, what's happening? I love the timeout by Barube. I thought that was a really smart, smart timeout. But I think, for me, I throw away the third period and just say, just find a way to win

and then reset and you know you're probably going to start game two. That's when the clock starts on the evaluation for Joseph Wall. And that's fair because all he had to do was somehow get them through to a win. They did. And listen, I thought he made a couple good saves. It's not like he was just a garden gnome in there. There was Florida pressed. He had some good tight saves in tight. I actually thought his second period was sharper when he just kinda came in and what he made a blocker save right away made a chess save where he stepped out to it like he looks solid and

and keep in mind he's worked hard in practice so it's just more about game timing but you gotta get florida credit to they were pushing and pushing and i i thought florida got going you know who's great was this guy six three march and put a question was unreal in the i thought all night but in the third period he was so good he was good but but you know the point being is yes there it was some shaky goals a bark off three one at the net with about two minutes live a bad angle and

i was like oh my god that one was when and you know but you know go ahead go ahead and i was just gonna say because you just you just jog my memory austin matthews had a wide open empty net chance to close it yes i am you know i had eight feet why he missed it by a mile man and he also had that one time or opportunity i but noodles i wanted to

ask you for joseph wall how far in the mental spectrum did he have to go like how far into no man's land? Can you be sitting on the bench? Are you like? What chores do I have to do tomorrow like where could your mind go to be so far away from playing in the NHL? in a playoff game where in a split second a guy's barfing in front of you and It's you take a dump in your pants and realize that you're going in.

Okay, a few things here. Let me unpack this here for you. It's not like he played six games this year. He played as much or more than Stoller's, correct? I know, but Noodles, I just want to know how far into outer space it could possibly be for a backup like where can you get to? As far as not being ready to play in the game. I mean, okay, so here it is. I Would think when you saw that collision first of all, you see the slap shot Yeah, I'm sorry the shot from Reinhardt in the face. He shakes it off. He's fine

Okay, no problem. A lot of times as a backup, you're watching your starter and going, okay, that was a good save or whatever. If there's a collision, you're watching to see if they get up. You have a back and forth with them at TV timeouts. That's why this whole transaction was even more wacky for me watching it live unfold on TV because he has the collision with or I'm sorry the collision Bennett gives him the shot to the head and he lays there shakes his head gets up and you're going okay seems fine because I'll give you an example last was

it last week LA Kings Victor Arvidsson took a goaltender interference penalty but he went hard to the net on Kemper and he clipped his head and Kemper laid there for a second and they jumped up and waved off the bench because he knew right away the spotter is going to pull him out. So he fought through it. So Stollars gets up, he plays. So as a backup, oh you're sitting there on the bench going, he's fine. He comes at the TV timeout, they have a transaction.

I don't know what they're saying. You all right? You all good? You need some water? Whatever. on the bench going, he's fine. He comes at the TV timeout, they have a transaction. I don't know what they're saying. You all right? You all good? You need some water? Whatever. Stoller is just smiling. A little chuckle. He looks like in good spirits. Goes back to the net, continues to play. The next TV timeout, now he's puking and it hits him. That's the weirdest thing for me because as a backup, the emotions emotions are like I can go in here and then okay He's fine. And all of a sudden he's puking. You're like, okay, I'm going in here The you can get through one game he woke up or not even woke up last night He knows how bad stole our says or what it is

He knows I'm either in for the rest of the series. I'm in for the next game I mean, so now the mental thing now you're prepared now you're going okay i'm playing would love to know what he was thinking between those tv timeouts when stores came over his laugh and i'm good man don't worry about that i like i can have some more popularly like a wonderful go for dinner tonight and then all the sudden like this guy's not everywhere i have to put the heat uh... by confirmed and i come on up we will ask questions

about Joseph Wall. We'll start teeing up the other series, which continue or will start tonight. The Oilers are in action tonight. The Jets are in action tomorrow. We got game two, of course, tomorrow. Leaves Panthers is well down at Scotiabank. Mike Johnson coming up today. Craig Button coming up today. Mac T. Craig McTavish will join us later this afternoon. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN 4. I can neither confirm or deny that this is in fact a signal. Austin trades Andrew Raycroft to Toronto in exchange for the rights to Tuca Arras. It's been my honor and a privilege to serve as the General Manager of the Toronto Maple

Leaf Hockey Club. It's time for Confirm or Deny. Do you regret giving all those gentlemen the no trades or no movement clauses? I can either confirm or deny that. I can't confirm or deny that. Alright, we've got a bunch of confirm or denies here. We were, you know, spinning off the Florida Man content that I think everyone loves. Yeah.

Right, everyone has an appreciation for it for we asked for people to submit some ideas uh... kyle sent me a a d m on instagram here he said florida man mobs uh... florida man mobs new dad on his birthday in front of police and gets off scott free no arrests that is a good one that's a beauty man he's referencing Matthew Kachuk and Marner obviously explain to people that Matthew Kachuk if it was Florida versus Ottawa I would almost bet my life that he's

fight his brother off the opening face-off I honestly think that that's just how the operation works where this guy played junior with Mitch Marner they want to do on the same line they won a championship in London together and he just said you know what and It might be hard for people to understand this and I'm not trying to big league you because I played in the league But there's some teams in the National Hockey League where they have a philosophy Where it's if you want two points, okay some you might get it but to take those two points we're gonna take a chunk like we're just gonna that's how it works we're just not gonna go away quietly and that's what they do so

at the end of the game and you can call it competitiveness you might call it a little cuckoo whatever you want to call it but that's just their philosophy if you're gonna take the two points we're just gonna scrap and we're gonna be dirty and we're gonna do goofy stuff and that's what we're gonna do and that's just their philosophy if you're gonna take the two points We're just gonna scrap and we're gonna be dirty and we're gonna do goofy stuff And that's what we're gonna do and that's how the Panthers are gonna operate man You got you're gonna get the two or the W They're gonna look to take a piece on the way out the door They're just not gonna go away quietly and it's a part of the reason that they've had so much success You saw them stick with that hockey game last night that game is is a blowout, man. 4-1, that thing should be locked and sealed. And guess

what it was. Even when it was 5-3, it's like, let's get 5-4. Maybe we can make something happen. They do not stop, and they don't quit. And that's a big part of their success. Sorry, that's a long-winded answer. No, but it's a good answer, and I just want to jump on it is Matthew Kachak, I didn't think he played very well. I didn't think he looked very well. I don't think he was super, you know, super. No, very ineffective last night.

Right. So what he was trying to do is do something on the way. He's trying to go, you're right, oh, like I didn't have my stuff tonight, but I'm going to try and take a piece or try and do something, send a message, do whatever. That's what he was trying to do because I didn't think he was particularly effective and I thought well and and I thought Paul Maurice moved past him a couple times like there was he looks yeah He doesn't look like he's flying around out there, and I thought he's not a burner anyway No, that's not how he skates, but he you know he was effective on the power play

They were moving the puck, but I'm just saying like usually skates. But he you know he was effective on the power play they were moving the puck but I'm just saying like usually he's a guy that is just a little bit more noticeable every shift and he just didn't have it last night. A lot of those guys didn't have it especially early on. And I do think it is important to like I agree with what you said it like Florida had a really good third they kept pushing and pushing and pushing. Wall gave up goals that shouldn't go in. That should not have been a five-four game. Like if Stolars is healthy, I do think it's a blowout, or it's four-one or five-one or five-two. But, you know, he wasn't healthy, Wall goes in, they get a couple on the board,

and all of a sudden you're shaking a little bit. But in the end, the Leafs, you know, found a way to make it happen. And I think if you're Marner and Kichuk at the end of the game there, you have two options. You either hack and whack back, or you do what Marner did and just say i'm out of here see you later game's over you're not going to do anything anyway which is true i mean that's kind of how you have to handle Matthew Kichuk because he's not going to fight

like he's not there's no fighting i've been putting that position before where i'm like my only defense like you get really stupid thoughts in your head where it's like You want to do something you want to go stick swinging or like try but that's how you get suspended exactly exactly so Maybe I'm there. I would have loved to see him take a two-minute slash I would have loved to two noodles, but then just it done Then there is then could Chuck can react with okay my gloves are off and i'm swinging and then it's like can you handle that i agree i agree with you personally now again that ship sailed i think nine years ago with these guys that's not how they're wired they're not like

mitch isn't wired that way austin's not wired that way they know exactly what he's doing he knows you know and all he's going to do is hack and whack and then skate off the ice yeah so you have two options i guess what i'm saying is you can't you can't hack and then turn around and try to skate That's intimidating like he's like, you know what? I suck tonight. We're gonna lose this hockey game I got a plant something with Mitch Barnard where maybe then this we can all push him out of the series Well, I was gonna be their game plan but that's I know but that's why I would have liked to see just a

I know, but that's why I would have liked to see just a, you know, turn around and chop him and keep skating backwards. But you make him feel you're sticking and go, you know what, you want to chop me, I'm going to chop you back. Again, I understand and you don't want to engage and if he drops his gloves and goes at you, now you're in one and I understand all of the ramifications that potentially could come with it. But you also want to send a message is like dude you don't bother you know like you're not like we all saw it remember years ago who was it that was punching Matthews in the face and had the yeah who was that it was

Ben Chirard and he had a horse collar. Ben Chirard well there's Marchand on Sedin which is the most famous one clearly. You just you want to let them know like I'm not gonna engage with, but you don't bother me. And just chop back, take off setting, slashing penalties. And just like, hey, again, that's maybe the old school in me. No, I totally agree with you, Noodles. I think if that were in him or any of these guys, we would have seen that seven, eight, nine years ago.

It's not how they're wired. And I think when you look at the way they reacted at the end of game one against Ottawa, the sense tried to drag them into it. Like they tried the, they, they, I referenced it. I saw it, you know, I think everyone would have David prawn was chasing McCabe around and trying to engage in them. And I don't think he was trying to fight, but he was slashing them, hacking them, trying to headbutt them, trying to, you know, put them in a headlock and McCabe was like I'm not doing it games over

we're out of here that seems to be the Borube approach like once the games over keep it within the whistle let these guys unravel themselves and move on but Anyway, I mean in the end Mitch is good the Leafs are in a decent spot I mean the goaltending is concerning and let's begin there with confirmed deny Confirmed deny Joseph Wall's playoff experience in the last two years should allow for confidence from the Maple Leafs I totally confirm this I'll go first because he has the ability and Just like I talked about the other star players from the Maple Leafs reaching down and fighting a different level Joseph Wall's had some playoff performances where he's been unbelievable.

Hasn't he, Hayes? Like had some games where he's just been fantastic. So he's just got to dig down and understand that he's heavily relied upon on a team that's trying to do something here and they don't want to have this hinder it. They don't want this to blow up and smoke because Stolarz is not a net. He's very capable. It's a simple situation where he has to man up and go in the net and do the job. And it's Jim Taddy, non-negotiable.

Yeah. I mean, I confirm it as well. It's just that the start is critical. Because listen, we're going to get the Leafs are going to get Florida's best tomorrow, like they're going to be a response. And I would argue that Bobrovsky is going to probably better, it might be a tighter game, it might be a different game. And the only thing he needs to do is have a good start to the game. Because if he lets a moldy one in or a greasy one it just changes the perplexion or they you know they the look of it you know what I mean the

complexion of it yep and you know last night like you guys said it you know there's a redirect with the fourth goal was a redirect that goes under the bar it's just greasy but you could feel I through the TV the crowd go oh man I like these just as get to the finish line. The underpants cam, right? There were some bad bounces, all of that type of stuff. So if he has that to start the game tomorrow, you're like, ah, you know, like that's the only thing is he has an opportunity to slam it shut. Keep in mind this guy played, what did he play? 42 games this season. He played more than Stoller. Yes, he played a games this season? Yeah more than Stolar. Yes

He played a lot of time. I'm all year on this show Going wall gets the puck he gets the net game one like we you know So he's got an opportunity however unfortunate it is for Stolar's and I'm not convinced. I'm telling you I this Stolar's yeah reading comments Brandon Carlo go.on carlo guys at breakfast this morning smiling i'm like but what does that mean well i can listen i i think uh... i've been pulling for the guy personally i've i find it

i find it impossible to believe the guy can be structured out of the arena and throwing up everywhere and played forty eight hours later i mean i just feel like there's elements of malpractice that come with that. You know, doctors, they're like, really? You're going to play? Like, this is in 1964 or more. It wasn't 1998. I did that in 1998.

I got knocked out in a game, spent the night in the hospital and played two nights later. That's insane. I mean, that is crazy behavior. The funny part about it, who can vouch for it, was strutty. I got knocked out in the second period against the Vancouver Canucks. They put me in a dark room. In the third period, they wheel Struddy in. He's like...

So he's laying beside me. I can't remember what happened to him. He was getting stitched or he got hurt. And we're both talking, laying in this room. And he was laughing going that the team... I think we were winning like 7-0 yeah and when they knocked me out Stradi goes the bench was going we got him we can come back in this game so funny but that's great anyways it the point being is this isn't the 90s you know I saw that's my thing that's my I hope he

plays I mean I hope but some point he returns hopefully hopefully this series I mean I don't we don't know the timeline and I saw that from Carlo and he said listen I saw him this morning. He's at breakfast smile. That's good. That's that's amazing And you're you're pulling for the guys well-being first and foremost, but you have to be mindful of a concussion Yeah, I mean, I think it would be Absolutely shocking if stole ours is playing tomorrow. I don't think it'll be dressed shocking if stole offices playing tomorrow i don't think i'm addressed i mean that's what i can and that's why let me could let me confirm

i mean a fergie this okay yeah let me confirm and he can't it's play on you cannot even we should be able to make it i'm let me allow to say the word for you in the second left okay i'm gonna nico what's that guy's name nico hollands nico for the other side of the playoffs. Okay, I'm gonna Nico, what's that guy's name? Nico Hollins? Nico Ferguson. Nico Harrison, this thing. I confirm that Wall's playoff experience should bolster the confidence of the team. Here's where I'm concerned. Here's where I'm concerned this guy gets it, he's been injured in the playoffs and

That's what is concerning about his playoff experience that we showed up at game seven in Boston last year, and it's like can't go Yeah, he's terrible. What I just said about non-negotiable. Sorry. There's no getting hurt. There's no poor performance I hear this is the moment in your career where you've got a really as Ray Ferrara would describe as career where you've got a really as Ray ferrara would describe as putting your big boy pants on and get your ass in that net and play well non-negotiable excuses man if he does it that's the thing is is like you know what if he doesn't he doesn't Jamie it's a guy said it before it's a do-it-or-don't league so if you go in there you don't do the job that you didn't do the job okay let me ask you this confirmed and I Joe we're flying around here. Confirmed or denied that Maple Leafs can beat the Florida Panthers

with simply average goaltending? No, you can't win any series after the, and any round with average goaltending. The Jets just did, I mean, I'd argue they, okay, continue, continue. Go ahead. I stand corrected. No, you're right, you're right. Yeah, the Jets just did it, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't want to roll the dice with it. Denying it. You're right. Yeah, the Jets just did it but I would I wouldn't want to roll the dice with it

Denying it you're denying it because I would say this series This isn't the st. Louis Blues who were yes on a heater down the stretch. This is the Florida Panthers You know the defending cup champions you have to give them that respect and i i think you need better than average colton and i i think you're going to need that you know you're going to need that morosky was no good last night he handed them some goals in i a l here you're gonna need the guy at the other end to outplay him on several nights yet now you're the benefit of all has is he starting

up one nothing in the series rights like it that that is a big benefit like you you got a home ice, you won game one, you're not expected to be perfect all the time. That's not fair to anybody, you know, outside of hella bucking overtime in game seven. That's not expected of anybody. But I do deny this as well, that you're just, you're going to need better than average gold goal you can't have like a 904 say percentage and or whatever the average is keep in mind like Florida their thought process trying to split the series yeah they win game two tomorrow night they're fine and then you're going

down to Florida and it's reversed you got to get a split there right that shrink the series down exactly I think that's the the process here and you know be just interesting to see the adjustments for both teams and again like I don't know like everything is cloak and dagger and not like in my mind before I came on the show I was like Solaris is playing tomorrow you guys have talked me out of it but it's like I just think it was so extreme it is extreme but I'm not been a stretcher out of there and going to the hospital, that's pretty wild stuff.

It is wild and it's very concerning. But I just, in the end, I'm glad that he's at the rink and not in a hospital. Absolutely. You know what I mean? Yep. That's a big step. You know what the bad part about my head goes last night? I like to think of them stretching it off and I'm like, I I hope he doesn't get Modano like you're like is there a

video of it? You know what I mean? You know someone's got an iPhone down there like oh there's stores. Did you just see that? I can't believe what I just saw. Yeah. Sam Rosen was down there. I mean exactly. All right we'll continue. I just hammered the mic. Haven't done that in a while. I got more confirmed than I. We'll get to Mike Johnson will join us. We got Craig Button coming up. How about Lou Lamorello? What a master plan, right? Lou knew exactly what he was doing, hooking up the Islanders with the lottery win last night. They'll have the first pick of the draft. Pretty convenient where you gas their all-star game and then you gave them the first overall pick. Exactly. You think the governor of New York might have told Jerry, hey, how about we find... their all-star game and then you gave them the first overall pick out of the way. Exactly!

You think the governor of New York might have told Jerry, hey how about we find a... Jerry, we don't even care if you come for the all-star game but you better find something to make us happy. Yeah. Wink, wink. First overall, New York Islanders! Yeah, exactly. That is very convenient now that I think about it.

Alright, more on that still to come as well. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050N on TSN 4. All right, Mike Johnson in 15 minutes, his reaction to game one last night, leaves up one nothing in the series. Game two tomorrow night, we got a couple of games in the Stanley Cup Playoffs this evening.

I do think we have an obligation to address your dressing room, which I went to check out last night after the show because we did X. Okay, let's just clarify. Not immaculate, but worlds better than what it was, right? Yes, you had set the bar very low so that, you know, that... What was your initial... You...

Let me just... Initial reaction, door opens opens you say in your brain? What this guy is still? 325 pounds yeah That was my initial reaction You said that video I was like are you talking about the ties are hanging up the suits are all there's belts on the ground There was a pile of garbage to the left of whatever. There was like a pile of something. I don't know what that was.

Dude, it's a nice belt. It was just one belt. Where else am I supposed to put the belt? Do you give permission for Joe from the Bridge to roll the viz? You got it. It's your locker room. I don't want space. I am so confident.

Listen to this. Okay. Play it. Okay, let's find out. Sorry, I'm throwing this at Joe. Go to my stories on Instagram. I posted it. I can't tell you how many people were writing me last night saying, sorry, is this a flashback? I'm confused. I thought you said this guy's dressing room was immaculate. Can you show the new version? Dude, I don't know what's dirty. I don't know

what is dirty in that dressing room. When he pants up, it's beautiful on the right where your suits are. And then he pants to the left, there's a cooler. And then right to the right of the cooler is a pile of I don't know what. Like pocket squares. Those are pocket squares. There's 840 of them piled up. Like I thought a raccoon was going to come out. Guys, if we're going to get nitpicky about pocket squares, like that place used to be

a garbage disposal dumpster. It was. Yes yes it was but it was still from a cleanliness standpoint like I would give it a 5.5 out of 10 like it wasn't you said immaculate you were using that word so I was like this thing is gonna be I thought spotless dude I thought St. Peter's Basilica like I think I thought I'm walking through that there's gonna be people running tours through here saying you've

never seen something spotless and so immaculate and instead you know it was uh... i get your idea of how some of the people that the ties were a disaster i i there's the follow there's a little jersey on the ground for some of the i don't know there was a greater rates that i know where you guy know where you

got those you can bring those and i think that I know where you got those. You didn't bring those in. I know where you got those from. You walked in from the table across the hall. 100%. I looked at those Gatorades, I'm like, he didn't buy those and bring those in here. I know exactly where he got those. I'll be the first to admit,

if there's stuff lying around at Trade Center, I high-jack it and go right in there. Oh, I know that, smuggling. You're smuggling. You're from, yeah. Yeah. We have to see the video and break it down. All right, we'll get the vid. I jammed up Joe. I wasn't... I was expecting you to say don't show it.

Guys, come back at 5 and start the vid off the hop because we'll do a quick breakdown and you can't find anything. Alright. This is like an interrogation video. I'll say freeze it and show me what you're talking about. Full breakdown of the Florida man's dressing room next You've been listening to overdrive powered by FanDuel FanDuel bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score Nostalgic unmistakably Canadian nostalgic, unmistakably Canadian. I want a look in my eyes and you can tell that's true.

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