OverDrive - OverDrive - May 8, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' win against the Panthers, taking a two game lead in the series and the standout players throughout the matchup. The Athletic Maple Leafs Reporter Jonas Siegel joins to dive into Maple Leafs' series lead, the different team narrative and the offensive skill set on the roster. They also dive into William Nylander's point production, the Stars' opening win against the Jets and Mikko Rantanen's incredible performance.

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and up on TSN for Brian Hayes, Jamie Noodles, McLennan. What's going on? Lots going on, Lots going on today. I was on the phone with the medium guy, not the big guy anymore. The medium guy. How's the medium guy doing today? He's jacked. He's not here today. He's at a funeral.

I know. And he wants everyone that listens and watches to say he will be jacked up for the show tomorrow because this is one that he desperately wanted to be a part of but obviously real life pops up from time to time and you got to take care of business of course. But man this is uncharted territory noodles. Listen I'm going to throw it to you because you're right it's uncharted territory. You and I can get into the meat of the game like breaking it down all of that type of stuff I just

want to know the range of emotions like you know let's take it through you give me where leaf nations at is it I saw your comments last night I believe it's saying you know leafs are in the driver's seat I thought I saw that yeah comment which is fair I think so nothing But I take me through the range of motions is it is their belief is there still Apprehension is it cautious like where are we at here? Well, I think it's a combination of You know, there's multiple emotions. I'm sure there's multiple ways to learn out out of respect to to the other team as well Right at the Florida Panthers are a really good team and they're going home and they're going to say nothing's happened until we lose on home ice and

we have seen recent examples including in the last round Edmonton was down two nothing they ended up obviously winning that series St. Louis was down two nothing it goes to double overtime game seven so I don't think any Leaf van or any of the Maple Leafs or anyone associated with the team is putting the cup before the horse and making plans for Carolina or Washington, nor do I think anyone should be doing that. But it is pretty damn good. You have to feel good. You deserve to feel good if you're a fan and ultimately that's where I come at it from. I mean you know you predict one way or the other, you root for certain players, certain teams and all

that kind of stuff, but I have always been rooting for Leaf fans to have their moment and listen, it's six wins, the ultimate prize is 16. You've got a long way to go. You're only halfway through the second round. Honest to God, it's so funny. I went to the dentist today and she know she's a Leaf fan but she goes you know so when like and it was honest it came honestly she's like so we're on to the finals right I'm like we're if they win this series they're halfway home. Halfway home. Like which is. To the finish line. It actually speaks

to how hard it is to win that trophy and to get there because you're right like your six and two in the playoffs are feeling good you you know I thought there were some just wonderful performances last night like I say we'll get into those but it was more you know when you just look at it's like hey you know you've taken care of what you could do but like you still have to win two more out of five but that's the ratio here moving forward. You can do it sooner, there's no reason that you can't. That would be ideal, go down to Florida with a mean face on. But the point being is, if you get through, then you're halfway there, which is crazy,

but it gives you an opportunity and that's all you need to continue to do is get that opportunity. Well, listen, we've consistently hit different markers over the last year. And I guess you could go back a couple years ago when they beat Tampa. You know, first time this has happened in this many years, first time this has happened in that many years. And now it's getting to a level where you're actually going way back where they were up to nothing in the first round and to nothing in the second round where they're up to nothing

on home ice in the second round and to nothing in the second round where they're up to nothing on home ice in The second round of what that represents and right, you know, it's very difficult to link what happened in 1963 and apply it to 2025 clearly but this is something this group Has has never they've never been in a position like this, you know when they got to the second round two years ago It was three nothing before you could flinch, you know Florida was up 3-0 and at that point you realized, okay, it's over. They're not going to score back. To their credit, two years ago, the Leafs won game four, forced to game five, and game five went to overtime.

I thought they played great that night. Thought they deserved to win. It doesn't matter though because you did. Bob stood on his head. Nick Cousins scores in overtime. The rest is history. This is a scenario where the Leafs, again, in the second round, they, I think, continue to make Leaf fans feel good about how they're built, how they're playing, how they're going to approach the game, and I don't think

that's getting out in front of it. I don't think that's being too ambitious. It doesn't guarantee anything, but they deserve their flowers. Like I thought last night was the best example of a team that is trying to prove again, this is different. We're going to act differently. We're going to approach this differently. But more than anything, if you're going to talk to talk, you got to walk the walk and you actually got to win where there were. There was opportunity for complacency going into that game last night.

There was, I think was opportunity for complacency going into that game last night. There was I think opportunity for Emotion to run wild and get the worst of the Maple Leafs There was an opportunity for a new goalie and Joseph Wall to go in there and just it didn't work out You know There was opportunity for Bob to stand on his set there were a number of different things That you could have looked at before the game and I was kind of bracing for And I think most people were yeah, okay You know Florida's gonna throw a lot at you here and there's a chance

It's gonna be a split going back to to Florida, but it didn't play out that way And I give all the credit in the world to the Leafs because I thought they showed up with again a game face-on They talked about it. You know two days ago following game one and said, listen, we're not going to chase Sam Bennett around. We're going to continue to have a game plan. We're going to stick to that game plan and it's business like, and we're going to play and that's exactly what they did last night. They're down one, nothing.

Make that up down to one, make that up. I thought when Lundell scored to make it three, three, I'm bracing for overtime 17 seconds later, Marner scores. The rest is history. So it was a very, very impressive night for a team that just continues to give you reason if you're a Leaf fan to say, jump on here because it's a fun ride. It's a fun ride right now. They're up 2-0 in the second round. They look really good. Well, and you won different ways, too. Last night wasn't a game of perfect. You knew that Florida was going to have a response. And it's almost like, again, I can't really say that

because Nylander scores and Marner scores, but while the top guys have been either canceling each other out or just doing their best to kind of have good shifts against each other. I thought the third line for Florida was pushing again and again. They've been great through two games. Here we go again. Are you going to have an answer? But Nylander scores. It's a great play from Patcheretti.

Your power play gets you one back, which was the top power play wasn't it. It's the second power play that just is a meat and potatoes, back, which was, you know, the top power play wasn't it. It's the second power play that just is a meat and potatoes, back to the point, nice little redirect underneath the bar. But it's just, it's, I would call it like in a vacuum, it's big plays at the right time. And you can, you can check off, okay, Max Domi makes a beautiful play, you know, goes short side shelf on that. But that's, you know, it's a hard working play to make that happen. And they find the back of the net. It's opportunistic. It's like you get an opportunity, you bury it, or because

you are doing the right things, it finds the back of the net like the Marner's goal was not perfect. Like it was a great shot by by him but it's a bad goal for Bob. Yeah, Bob's going to stop that all day. It's off the boards for sure. It's a wrist shot off the wall. Now people don't point. Matthew Nise is in the front so that's a big body. When I talk about doing the little things, go in the front of the net.

I'm going to stand there. They're going to have to push it up. Bob doesn't, I don't think Bob did a good job of trying to find that puck the sight line Well, I'd also ask you this too about Marner Marner's rep I would think if I'm Bobrovsky is he's has to try to make a play exactly exactly Yeah, exactly and Marner probably got him because he to your point he wasn't searching for it, but maybe he wasn't thinking I have to because Mishmar is not gonna shoot from that angle and he did

Agreed it's a great point because he probably is thinking, okay, I'm going to try and find this puck but I'm going to look for options where this guy is going to get the puck next, right? And he just grabs it and throws it and it's, you know, you could read the logo on it because it had turned like it was. Flipping around in the air. Again, perfectly placed, great goal. But it's, the difference is, and we can talk about Patcheretti, we can talk about Nylander, we

can talk about Deft, Ndomi, we can talk about the big boys. Joseph Wall was really good when he needed to be, and Bobrowski, like, honest to God, it comes back to Bobrowski, I think, has allowed four bad goals in this two games in Toronto. If you allow one bad goal, you might not make it through that game as far as winning it. He's allowed four. I thought three in the first game and I didn't allow the Marner goal but again it's a seeing eye shot good on Marner. Two things can be true. Marner can make a great play and a goaltender can make a poor play and I'm still just looking at it from the goalie perspective not from Marner making a terrific read on the play

but it just that's a different joseph wall makes a right pad or right to save on your channell's get out of some set what is that a scabbage samus cabbage on the back door like that's a huge save at the right time because that might be back breaking like florida pressed as they were going to have a response, continue to push, generate some

zone time, get some looks and you needed a save here or there. That left it, Joe from the Bridge is showing. That one on Marchand, that's a great save. Kachuk, I really think too, if you're looking at it from a lens of the Florida Panthers, a lot of their top players have been outplayed, haven't played well enough. Yeah, I'm looking at Bennett. I thought he was awful last night. Well, I thought Bennett was tentative.

Yeah, he looked really tentative. I actually thought he was going into hits, going, I better have a clean hit here because all eyes are on me. Not the fans. I'm talking the refs and all that. And listen, you know, I don't complain about the refs and all that and listen you know I don't complain about the refs on either side I thought there was you know a few weird calls last night but in the end again the refs were not the story that that wasn't the difference in the game I thought they're Rodriguez whatever that

was I don't really get the embellishment there I was very surprised by that I was in the end but in the end I can't believe I couldn't believe it when I'm i was i was very surprised that i was indian but indian hot i can't believe i couldn't believe it when i'm watching it i'm like how are these coincidentals what is the call all the guys are in the middle is i think somebody went after lottman is a city where it kind of all tied up but i was like this guy gets hit and goes to the room and you're like okay i thought they were reviewing it for a five and gone that's not a five that's

what i mean it's a little on in but then you're like, okay embellishment I'm like who embellish that but it's almost like that was the Domi calling exactly. It's like, okay That's a bad call, but the Domi call was even worse or equally as bad. So they all exactly they that's my point It all evens out. So, you know, I look at it. I thought Joseph Wall made some real critical saves I thought you know the players that needed to play stepped up may not have noticed them as much But again, it's not a game of perfect. It's going hey, I got to win my shift I've got to do something a little different detail here. I think Chris Tanev was great He pulled the pull the puck right off the line again, like he's really good in around that net So there's just some small details where it all,

when you build them up, it just adds up to like, okay, that was a win, we'll take it. It may not have been a perfect win, but you take it and you move on and you live to, now you said you take your game face down to Florida and in a perfect world, I don't know if you're gonna, but if you can get one, now you're coming back. That's what you're looking for now.

Yeah, I mean, obviously, be greedy, sure. You always have to be greedy. The Panthers are thinking we have to win both. You know they're thinking that. You've got to find a way to win game three and game four. 100%. Because I think tomorrow is a must-win for the Panthers. If you're in that dressing room, that's a must-win because 3 Cobb is, you know, it's

curtains. But to me, it also, if you're the Florida Panthers, it says that like we're in this series because game one, you know, you scratched and clawed to come back, but you ended up coming up short. Game two, I thought there was pockets of it where they they played pretty well and they were but they lost. That was expected right? Exactly. You said it all day.

You're going to get your best out of Florida and at least it doesn't matter how it's whether or not you find a way to win the game. And that's what that's what counts. There was you know I still think there's more to be had from all the top players in the series. This is my thought on that because naturally you're drawn to Matthews and Marner and I think it was very significant that Marner gets the game winner because I thought ultimately he was kind of fine but just kind of blended into the game. Kind of quiet.

Very quiet and same with Matthews but now that you're in the driver's seat, now that you're up to nothing in the series, I think if you're Craig Barube, if you were offered this deal, the Matthews line and the Barkov line just wash each other out. They're just out of the series. You take that every day of the week. Now if roles were reversed, you couldn't accept that. If you're down to nothing or even if it's 1-1, I think if you're Barube and the Leafs, you have to go to Matthews and Marner and say I need

offense from you I need dominance from you but I think when you're in the driver's seat you're up to nothing and you've realized okay Bob has been shaky maybe that changes maybe it doesn't maybe they found something or maybe he's on fumes again I we talked about that leading up to the series Florida's played more hockey than anybody else in the league the last two years. Two years ago, it was Tampa that had played more than anyone else. Remember Vasilevsky in that series. He couldn't do it.

The Leafs just buried him. The Leafs just absolutely buried him. I don't know. I'm picking up on those vibes here with Bob. I'm picking up on a guy that has played a lot and he's played great and you know the Leafs are clearly taking advantage of it but you know the Panthers third line is the reason they got into the game and game one and I thought they were probably their best line last night they played really really well but I think if you're Borube and you're looking at Matthews and

Marner and Knives now it could change in Florida in terms of you know distribution and Paul Maurice and matchups and all that kind of stuff and Barkov got on the board last night obviously in the on the power play but I'm taking that deal right now. You give me that offer that the two just wash each other out and they're out of the series you accept it. That'd be a big win for the Leafs and that that speaks to getting your foot in the door first in getting these two games, because if it's a chess match, you can play it a little bit differently, or you can look and expect different things out of certain players. And that's where I

think they currently stand. Because, yeah, I mean, Matthews and Marner, it hasn't been their show, so to speak. It's been more about Nylander again last night with a beauty. I mean, that was to get that up and to get it like that. That's twice. He scored right in front of Bob. Well, that's side right in front of Bobovsky. It's a beautiful play by Patcher ready. But again, I talked to a goalie coach in the league this year today and he was like great

play. You know, it's always the same thing great play by the shooter which you got to give him flowers for it yeah but you're looking at Bobroski deep opens the hole like you know it it you're going that's not vintage Bob like that's you know you're you're more square you're more in control like again if whether they found something and and that's not taking away from the lander in a great play to you know i mean i can hear your your apply in the the game plan and and and and executing like i was lying to the house the difference in portland i watch winnipeg

let play last night that it a lot of great a looks that buried into the chest of the put you know leave missed the net or whatever like you get one opportunity you got a barrier me lander did that yesterday time we'll get into that last night the mico randin and show continues it's just incredible natural hat-trick of the second period last night uh... chris pronger on the show today prongs coming up just after five o'clock unfortunately we are going to check in on the blue jays who lost again last

night blue or one lead jeff haw now all of a sudden is a mess You know two games in a row where it hasn't gone well for him Catch up with our man Richard Griffin later this afternoon and Jonah Segal coming up Jonas with an interesting tweet last night The Leafs threw 41 hits and blocked 26 shots in game two man That's selling out that is selling out and that is quote-unquote playoff hockey. I to believe jonas is a fan he's got to be a fan of what he's saying i guess we'll get those answers to us you know what's going on is this our over to the probably does it is probably not happy with something uh... overdrive continues t s and ten fifty and on t s and four

right overdrive continues powered by fando bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score chris pronger coming up we got news out of the world championships as well it sounds like Jordan Bennington and Braden Schenner on the way over. This Canada team is going to be a dynasty man a juggernaut I love it. I know but they're going to walk everybody. They will in the group stage and then you know who knows who they run into we'll see but we'll get to that a little bit later this afternoon but the Leafs are up to nothing and they're on their way down to Florida game three tomorrow night right

here on TSM radio and my understanding is our next guest is on his way down there as well jumping on the bandwagon how about that here he is Jonas Sego from the athletic nice of you to head down there Jonas I gotta tell you guys I'm risking not being able to take my bag on the flight to talk to you to head down there jonas i gotta tell you guys i'm risking not being able to take my bag on the flight to talk to you guys that's how much you mean to me uh... we appreciate that greatly we will give you a short note with that mean that that is the sacrifice yeah it really is a sacrifice but it's just full of

garden seed and carrots so you'll be fine you can put that underneath the bird for three hours you'll be fine i got sushi is that okay okay that's very quality that's quality stuff okay well jonas uh... lease up to nothing now that we've seen two games you know what has maybe surprised you the most what has stood out the most from your perspective i think probably how many goals they've scored i mean if you go back to the series in

twenty twenty three then ten goals the whole series i remember we talked so I think probably how many goals they've scored. I mean, if you go back to the series in 2023, they had 10 goals the whole series. And I remember we talked so much about it. It was two goals every game. And I think there was a streak dating back to the first round against Tampa with two goals. And so the fact that they put 10 in already, and I think they've made Vabrosky look pretty ordinary.

And if you look through the first two games, like Tavares, I don't think they've scored. Matthews, I think has not scored. And they've just gotten contributions from a lot of different places and territorially, like Florida, I think has own things five on five. But then like you zoom into things a little bit more and the shots are actually pretty close because the Leafs are blocking a million shots. So I think that's probably surprised me a bit. And then, I mean, the fact that they've gotten through this with the goaltending situation, I think is a plus. Like I don't think Wall was amazing last night, but the stop he made on Sam Miscavige in the third period probably wins them the game. So those are just some of my top line takeaways. not if they pack already like the packer anything i think

probably can be talked about enough right now yes very significant consider what he did in six uh... we did get one of now what he did last night and you know game five we're all down there in the building uh... brew bay through home bird mcmahon don't need an arm croak he tried for different guys in that game to spark the bars in the letter and

then he just said screwed up what that's already in there for game six going on a lot of that caused a big stir cuz pat ready didn't look great you know the previous couple of games yet he's been a massive contributor how much do you think that's already has factored into what we've seen out of me later particular kiss willies got five goals in his last three games. Well, he just creates space.

Like that goal that Nylander gets last night, that doesn't happen without Patioretty making a play in the neutral zone to win the loose puck. And then like, if you watch the replay of the goal, he slides the puck over like just in the nick of time before I think it's Seth Jones gets his stick on the ice. Like that's just like a veteran play. And's like he's got six points now and I think he's tied for fourth on the team and scoring for the playoffs. He has I think 18 hits in the last three games

along with the six points and like one of the things that stuck with me from talking to him in December was he talked about like the evolution that he had to make at this point in his career where he wasn't going to be the same offensive player that he was back in the day. So he felt like the way that he could contribute consistently night to night was by being physical and part of being physical for him was having these momentum changing kind of hits. And the thing that always stuck with me from that conversation is he said it's really hard to play like that. Like, it's really hard to play physically. Like it takes a lot out of you.

And yet you look in these playoffs and he's getting seven hits, like every single game, which tells me like how much this means to him. And I think they're using him smartly. Like they're not really overplaying it. Like he played 12 minutes last night and each of the third periods of the last couple of games, they've replaced them on that line for defensive purposes. I think the way they've handled it is perfectly. Anybody else stand out? I mean, obviously the key contributors, we talked about Nylander, Marner scores a seeing

eye shot which was a really nifty play. Is there anybody else that's flying under the radar that you've been really impressed with maybe either farther down the lineup or on the back end i think it's funny like that thinking about the matthews line i know they haven't been the dominant line but if you look at the way that they've handled that matchup with park off like they've kept it pretty even and they've actually one

and they will we have to talk about expectable of a cake one those minutes and you look at each of the first two games, they've gotten the game winner, I believe in both games, Nies in game one and then Marder in game two. And I think the fact that they can kind of take that matchup with Barkov and Reinhardt and kind of keep it even, that means that Nylander and Tavares and Patrioretty are getting lighter matchups and suddenly they have more opportunity to score and produce and I think that's like a low-key, I don't know, like it doesn't show up on the scoreboard and I guess it actually showed up in the scoreboard, but I think that line taking the difficult matchups is something we probably don't talk

enough about. It's kind of like I was thinking about it like Steph Curry, like he takes so much attention just as a shooter that it's creating open looks for other guys. And it's not exactly the same, but it's kind of how I've been thinking about it. With Jonas Sego of the Athletic on his way down to Florida Game 3 tomorrow night right here on TSM Radio. So what would you expect Florida to do differently once they get back home tomorrow night? Well, Noodles I think brought it up the other day with Joseph

Wallen playing the puck. I thought that was an issue for the Leafs last night. Whether it was the fact that Wall is not as good a puck handler as Anthony Stolar is, whether it's Florida's four check, whether it's just, I don't know, reps from Wallen not playing for three weeks, but I would think that that's a focus and I'm really curious to see what Almaris does with some of the matchups, because you look at their third line, that line has just been dominant. And so what do they do with that line now that they have home ice? How do they try to target the Leafs forward line?

Because I think you could make a case that every line, but Matthews is a little vulnerable to that kind of thing. So do they, do they move away from Barkov against Matthews is a little vulnerable to that kind of thing. So do they move away from Barkov against Matthews? Do they, I don't know, how do they generate more five on five offense? Because if you look at the goals, all of their goals at five on five have come from that third line. They haven't gotten any goals five on five from the Barkov line. They haven't gotten any goals five on five from the Bennett line. How do they generate more? And I'm really curious to see how the special teams game factors into things in Florida

because the lead power play hasn't been great, their penalty kill hasn't been great, they've managed to stay disciplined, which I think is obviously a big key. Can they continue to do that in Florida? We will find out. Starting tomorrow night, you'll be in the building. Good luck with the flight, good luck with the baggage, Jonas. Thank you for doing this. I'll send you updates. Thanks guys.

Appreciate it. Jonas Siegel of The Athletic. Yeah, you know it's interesting when you look at the matchups and you try to get a read on the anxiety that can come with certain defensive flaws. And I think Max Domi would be at the forefront of that. You know, when he's on the ice and he gets hemmed in, there's always this concern, right? And I've noticed it a lot, you know being in the rink and being in the press box. It's like, uh-oh Domi's out there But if he's gonna supply offense then it then it evens itself out, you know, and he scored another beauty last night He scored the OT winner obviously in game two against Ottawa Those are his two goals

Like those are big goals a 3-2 goal in a game two like last night, the OT winner in game two last series. He's got a couple of nice assists and I think he's contributing. He's factoring into the series, which is necessary. You know he's going to have energy. You know he's going to be feisty and he's going to get involved. If you're going to get hemmed in from time to time, okay, you got to balance that out by supplying your own offense and I thought that was significant for him last night.

Well, it is because you're getting depth scoring again. That's what you need is somebody other than those top six will call it on those top two lines chipping in and Jonas has, Jonas just laid it out. Florida's best line has been their third line. They've been actually scoring where the top two haven't. That's the difference, right? When lines cancel each other out or they, you know, exchange chances and they don't get it done, you start looking at other, where's the difference?

Where's the, you know, where's the difference maker going to be? Well, yes, it ended up in this particular scenario, it's Nylander, it's Marner, so you do get production from your top six, but you also get Max Domi involved. That's the type of stuff where if you can get a special goal at a special time, that's the fine line. Exactly. And it hasn't been. No, it hasn't been there. I mean, that's again, I was detailing that last night that this constant conversation

that is hovered around this team, like are you different? How are you different? Well, ultimately you got to show that you're different. And again, it's still somewhat premature There there's six wins into a chase for 16 if you want to win the whole thing But in past years, they'd have difficulty scoring that has not been the case this year at all like including against Ottawa They scored a ample amount of goals against Ottawa. They scored a lot of goals against Ottawa. They have nine and two games here It's not just the main guys again. Austin Matthews has two goals and eight games. Marner's got two.

Willie's a different story and I want to get to him individually in just a moment. But you need goaltenders. Well, you've had to play both of them now. You know, and we talked about this tandem endlessly all year. What is it going to look like? What's it going to be? Are they both capable? Well, we've got an answer again so far and it's his net for well Stolarz is not like I don't even think he traveled to Florida that's not a good sign well that's I mean he's not playing anytime soon we know that okay let's just work backwards on we'll call it a concussion it's usually generally a calendar week before you start to do anything. So that puts you into not coming to Florida, into game five.

That's really next week. That's if you have a positive reaction afterwards. Correct. And we don't have any answers on any of that. But my point is to not travel, it's been documented to fly with a concussion is not great so you don't want to be on the bird. So he's not going down there. So unless he magically feels better tomorrow, he's on a bird Saturday.

But again, Joseph Wohl played well. So there's no like the urgency to jam him back in the net is not there. That's why it was so critical for Wul regardless to have a win. You know I know people didn't love the Barkov power play goal. I thought you know Tanev usually blocks those shots. It came through and it kind of you know I think it was a bit concerning. When it went in I'm like yeah that's one you'd like to get kind of right through them but well yeah and it was first goal of the game you're like okay here we go type of thing but you know he made some good

saves you know Jonas was like I didn't have to be you know a difference maker. I And it was first goal of the game. He like, OK, here we go type of thing. But he made some good saves. Jonas was like, I didn't have to be a difference maker. I thought he did. I thought he did have to be a difference maker. Keep in mind, a goaltender making a routine save sometimes, it may look routine, but he's had to fight through traffic. He's had to battle for a rebound.

He did the job yesterday And he earned it and that was a giant question mark because it could have you and I talked about when we're signing off Yesterday you could have gone eat a different way they see They score on that power play goal and then all of a sudden it's three one after the first or something like just I'm just saying Hypothetical and when we're talking today going geez, you know know it didn't go so well what do you do hopefully that is the biggest story from last night besides the results obviously it's the playoffs you know it doesn't matter expected this expected that it's completely irrelevant the playoffs right what matters is who won the game and the Leafs won a game so

you put that to the side once you know that detail the the second most valuable part of the night last night for the Leafs is that Wall was the one in net and he made some big stops and he looked comfortable and he got the win and he factored into the win. So now you can put that behind you and now you fly down to Florida and you prepare for it. It's a building he's played in in the playoffs. He was playing a couple years ago when Samsonov wasn't in. So yeah, I do think that was very, very significant last night, but you look at William Nylander and you know we have we have discussed great players and great playoff runs and elevating your game and Ultimately with him you look at his numbers man eight games played. He's got six goals and 13 points

He's right there. I think he's second in points in the NHL in the playoffs right now and that type of production including five goals in your last three games and they're the biggest games you get into game six in the first round and then whatever you do for every round beyond that it's gonna be bigger and bigger and bigger and more and more important this guy is elevating and this guy is proven that he's capable of doing it. Like he's capable of showing up. And you know, he's not Wendell Clark in terms of what the way Wendell would play.

You know, Wendell would be physical and he would intimidate and hit and fight and do all that kind of stuff. But Wendell had those magical runs where everything went in and he scored and he stepped up in big moments. That's what Willie's doing. Willie is on pace now to have a playoff performance that makes you, that is going to be very memorable. It probably already is. Again, we'll see how the rest of this series plays out and we'll see what happens the rest of the way. And he certainly can't take his foot off the gas.

But this guy had 45 goals this year. 45 goals. And going into game six in Ottawa, it was like, Willie, come on, man, you got to get going here. You know, something's got to give. Because he was awful game five against Ottawa. But he got the message and he stepped up brilliantly ever since. Well, the key for a lot of these guys is to not, if they have an off game, don't make

it two type of thing. And that's a difference. Nobody has perfect games. Ever. You're never going to have perfect games. And dominates. Like, you know, you just talk about, we talked about it yesterday, like Dreisaitl and McDavid. McDavid has two goals in the playoffs. I mean, yeah, he's second or third in scoring or tied for second, but it's, you know, they're not going to have, like the Oilers have 12 goals in their last three games, Dreisel has one of them.

Like you do need other players. When you look at Nylander, his production's there, and if he has an off game, like you say, okay, let's see what you got next game. Or if it's just a timely goal. Because there has been nights where you're like, geez, I didn't notice him, but all of a sudden, oh, there he is. That's a goal or that's an assist and it comes back to Sometimes guys only need one opportunity I was I was talking about you know Winnipeg and Dallas game last night where there's guys in alone and they don't bury it and

You know they get one opportunity and and they could score on it. That's what Willie has been able to do is maximize his opportunities. Now he had one down the wall. Bobrovsky made probably, I thought Bobrovsky made a couple good saves last night, but I also thought he allowed a couple bad goals or a couple questionable goals. So do they wash? Like Nylander in kind of down the wall? He tries to go short side shelf Bobrovsky was aggressive made a pretty good glove save on him Was it mcmahon that was in alone and you know, Bobrovsky goes blocker Bobrovsky makes a good save on that

But neilander You know, it's everything with him. I feel like is opportunistic, which is fine because he's such a great Finisher and he proved it this year at 45 goals proving it again in the playoffs is he doesn't need volume what he needs is opportunity and he can make you pay and that's yeah that's what we saw yeah that's what we see. And he's got to have the right guys to play with but he also he's got that innate ability to kind of sniff out where it's coming from and where it's going and how to break loose.

That's what he's done. He's done a lot throughout his career. I mean, you go back to, I think it was game six against Boston last year where he scored the game winner. Remember when he broke loose on a breakaway and scores on Swainman? It's like, all right, you're off the Boston. Now Willie's sending you there. Willie, he scored in game seven against Boston.

He was the guy that made a one-nothing. William Nylander has scored a lot of goals in the playoffs and ultimately that's what you need yet yes you you need block shots you need to finish hits and times and all that kind of stuff but really when you pay a guy what you pay him and you expect something out of him when it comes to neilander it's offense like it's it's game-breaking ability and he has continuously proven that and he's done So the last three games And you know, there's no reason to believe that's gonna slow down

And I think that might be the scary thing if you're in Florida is that you look at Matthews and think okay This is a guy who I don't know if he's snake-bitten. He's getting some chances get some opportunities. He's checking Well, he's doing a lot of different things very well. Yet, if he comes down Broadway and he's wide open, that's still terrifying. I don't care what happened to him this season, you can speak to it. If you're Bob and you see 34 rolling and he's coming in all alone, you're like, this is a concern. And that's the thing, he can break it loose.

Now to counter that, Reinhardt's a great goal scorer hasn't done anything right? Kutryuk's a great player. He doesn't look like himself something's up with him, man He just I thought he really blended into the game again last night Well, I'd seem Verhege same thing Verhege had a couple good looks kind of in inner circles like inside One he rolls on him. He fires at high blocker wide. Another one, I thought he had a wide open net, I don't know if you remember that play, in the slot and he fired it over the net and a bit wide as well. Like Verhege is a streaky guy for me. He's a guy who gets hot and feels it and but if not, he's not super effective. He was physical. I thought he had a pretty hard hit there on Tanev that

kind of shook him a little bit. Tanev took a little bit to shake that one off. But their top players from Florida have not been the way we've expected, productive. Right. And I think some of that is on them and not producing, and some of it's on the Leafs for doing what they've continued to do and they did against Ottawa making life difficult. You know, Stootsla had a tough time at times. Dylan Cousins had a tough time because they're blocking shots, they're throwing hits, they're pushing stuff to the outside and that's clearly the formula that has worked for the Maple Leafs so far as they're off to Florida for game three tomorrow night. All right,

Chris Ponger in about 25 minutes. Brad Marshand, very complimentary after the game last night. Are we buying it? What's in about 25 minutes. Brad Marshand, very complimentary after the game last night. Are we buying it? What's he on about here, Brad Marshand? We'll play that. We'll get into it. The Jays, game three of their series, looking to avoid the sweep

from the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. The Angels are on the verge of sweeping the Blue Jays. That's not good. Somewhat concerning. And yeah, there's a lot. Somewhat concerning. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot to dig up on that front. So we'll get to that a little bit later this afternoon as well. Overdrive continues, TSN 1050 and on the TSN app.

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I was listening to the boys this morning on First Stop. They were doing Wake Up Woodbridge and people are freaking out all over the place and having a great time as they should. Trying to avoid talking about a sweep or getting silly like that. I think Carlo was freaking out saying if that that word gets mentioned, you're banned. I think O said it on the panel, didn't he, last night? Did he mention that last night? I did not hear him say that.

I hope he was smart enough to avoid that commentary. I think Drex said, I don't know, Drex came over, Drex did double duty, so he came over and he said, your boy uttered the word sweep on the panel. Can't do it, man. Or went down on it. I said, oh, well, you know, I mean listen when you're up to nothing You know you put your foot on the gas and you you continue to try and do that

Florida's gonna try and have a different word about that But you know, you've got an opportunity to continue to try and push that's right You know what's in front of us and that's what it is Yeah, and the Leafs have earned the the two-nothing lead and that's where things currently stand Chris Pronger coming up in about 15 minutes It was a big night for hockey in Toronto last night the Leafs won and Scepters the Scepters won game one last night Yeah, and Blair Turnbull will join us the captain of the the Scepters and we get a couple pairs of tickets to give away as well So we'll do that with Blair a little bit later this afternoon

couple pairs of tickets to give away as well so that would play a little bit later this afternoon but uh... you mentioned the winter pay game last night and you were you're covering that closely and yeah ranting in you know i i don't know what else to say about this guy because not only is it possibly in the distal always to go possibly going to be the greatest deadline acquisition ever

i think what would put it over the top is that it came with an eight-year extension so it's not a rental you know i can't you know you look at the famous ones like ray borke and there's been other ones before clearly but this guy's in his prime hit a natural hat trick last night after a four point third period in game seven

a four point second period in game seven a four point second period in game six in the previous round and again they got him locked up for the next eight years and it's just an unbelievable turn of events for Dallas it really is because keep in mind he was extremely quiet to start he was quiet in Carolina, quiet to start in Dallas, and quiet to start the playoffs and then all of a sudden a man possessed. And I made a joke last night, I was hoping that it got back to O because now he's scoring where he's just throwing the puck at the net and like he threw one and it went off a skate and went five hole on Hellebuck and I joked if he did that in Carolina that would hit the skate of the defenseman and go and hit Stormy the

pig between the eyes of the mascot. Because nothing was working for him in Carolina. We were, I mean, I think the three of us should admit, we were going, man, this guy just, maybe Colorado saw something. Remember we were talking about that? looked terrible in carolina's interested in carolina disinterested didn't look you know right obviously it is heartbroken out this is a beautiful tip like beautiful high tip but this one off the skate for high well that's just and i got to break in your way about it

exactly so good on him he's working for it but he's hungry for it but there was a time where it was like you know it it's all kind of come together and i'd love peter deborah's comments to go on i don't know what to say he goes i want to put him on the ice he goes is called every time the guys on the ice is doing something for us and he goes

uh... you know deborah was quite philosophical andy you can be when you win right like he's always how you go as of course. Of course, you get the long speeches and stuff. Yeah, I love it. But he just said, he goes, listen, it sometimes takes guys a little longer than you would hope for to get comfortable in their environment, to get their confidence back. He kept saying the word confidence, like confidence is a fragile thing.

And you could see that trade in Carolina rocked his confidence and and then I Forgotten I don't know if we talked about this much on this show, but apparently there was some trash talk with him Like when he scored yes, and Colorado in the last round Yes, but like yelling at the bench type of trash which I love seeing that man I like that like that's the beauty type of trash talk. Which I love seeing that man. I like that. Like that's the beauty of sports. Like once you're not teammates anymore, it doesn't mean off the ice you won't have a bond forever.

But once you're on the ice man, whatever can trigger you to do what he did, game six and seven in the last round and last night is something that I don't see how you could have any issues with it whatsoever. Ride the wave. uh... is something that i don't see how you can have any issues with it whatsoever right away uh... what it at we we were joking yesterday about me coming up you know going on jay last night and talk about goaltending which i did not do uh... and someone actually wrote in a great name because we wanted to come up with some sort of a whole came up with something about pulling your car or i

didn't even know what all your growing and check your shorts are still like that has i don't know how that has anything to do with goaltending it was it was a good line though his credit was a good line so I wrote in it should be the hella buck stops here which I think I had a great appreciation for I wrote him back said thank you for this you I'm staying out of it you tell me what you thought a hella buck last night I thought he was good so if you watch us start in the game they were being out shot 9-1 the only reason they were in the game was hellebuck. If you look at the goals we saw that off of a skate

through the body you don't love through the body but that was you know ranted and throws it it goes back five hole. The other one the tip like he's preparing it again short sight you don't love it. But he was not the problem. Like I will say this, he was not the problem at all. Like sometimes you can play a good game and lose. That's what happened last night for Hellebuck. Like I did not, I thought he was rock solid in his positioning. I thought he was aggressive. He made some really good saves, kept his team in it you know that if i had to say the difference was

was execution because when a peg had some really nice looks and i don't know if you saw on the internet there there's one garage sale where the park is in the crease they get six on five and there's five dalas stars and jake ottinger just there and a few Jets bodies and that puck did not go in. It was almost like it was willed not to because it Winnipeg looked like they were going to have

this this comeback. Magical. Yes. I was there. But the biggest thing and we should get into this more even with prongs. Profetti wasn't on the ice in the last minute. After the magic from the previous round. It got noisy in Winnipeg from that. Like Draggs was pointing out to me online going there's some noise online in Winnipeg about Profetti not being on the ice. I guess yes, and they had they had Artis was back well the dealers and already in that bumper spot where where you got a Short fatty in there though man He scores two including the most famous goal of the last how long in Winnipeg 1.6 seconds left No one's gonna forget that felt like you could have found a spot for him I feel like you probably you probably could have as well spot for him. I feel like you probably could have as well. Alright, hour two coming up. Chris Pronger, Richard Griffin on the Blue Jays, Overdrive continues, TSN 1050N on TSN

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