OverDrive - OverDrive - November 12, 2025 - Hour 1

Episode Date: November 12, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' defeat to the Bruins, the problems with the defense and goaltending on the team, areas of improvement on the roster, Anthony Stolarz's performance in the crease and Auston Matthews' injury in the Boston matchup and his average start to the season. They go around the sports world in the latest edition of Gerry's Percentages diving into the Joseph Woll, the Maple Leafs' point leaders and Bo Bichette.

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What's up, you Dumbo's? What's up, Dumbo's? How's everyone doing? The Dumbo dog, Dumbo noodles, Dumbo B. That's a tough one. Dumbo B.

Ah, poor Jerry, man. The Hall of Fame. He bit it. He bit it. Dumbo Joe Thornton, going into the Hall of Fame. It's grinchy. I felt for him.

I felt for him. Dude, you can't climb out of that dungeon either. It's like, when you go, I meant Jumbo, Dumbo's done. Like, Dumbo is out there. into the stratosphere, and it's floating around with a stink on it forever. Yeah. Dumbo.

Luckily, though, it's jumbo, and he made light of it, right? He's such a kind-hearted person. But he didn't like it either. It's one of the greatest nights of his life, if not the greatest, in the sport. And the commish, do we have the audio? Yeah, we got it. Yeah, do you want to hear? Yeah, I do.

Okay, let's hear it. It was from Monday night. Go ahead. And that's what Duncan and Z. Alexander and Dumbo Jumbo Not Dumbo Sorry

Jumbo Jen and Brianna That is a tough one It's a tough one man Because you're going with the nicknames Right Duncan and Z Yeah he wants to be one of the boys It's Dunkin Z man

And then Dumbo Dumbo Joe Thornton First overall pick Back in the day Former Hart winner He's done it all seen it all.

Well, Dumbo, is that, is that, it's out there, you said it, like, it's out there, there's no, there's no, there's no bringing it back. But, that's, unfortunately, like, I don't know how often Karen Lindsay do the top tens, but they used to do them a lot, sports center, like, blotched speeches or just, that's, that's one every time. It's George Bush, it's, like, there's a few, right? There's, there's probably a few, but I, I would think there's probably a top. Once, but don't ever call me a Dumbo.

Don't ever call me a Dumbo. I think there's probably a top five of Gary Batman once. And he's been around a long time. Dude, not like that, Jamie. But sound bites. You're going to want to hear this, all that type of stuff. But, like, this one is, it's just a slip, right? Like, Dumbo.

I don't know what he was trying to do. It happens. Like, you know one of us is going to slip something horribly. Of course. At some point this afternoon or. tomorrow we get to Winnipeg, we'll be in Winnipeg tomorrow and Friday it happens

live mics, it happens but it just it's innocent but it's funny It is, it's hilarious It's Dumbo Dumbow Jordan Into the Hall of Fame Anyway, yeah

we're off to Winnipeg which will be a great escape, right? I'm ready to go and talk about the Jets for a couple of days Yeah, where are you at? Because oh you did the game, right? And Hayes, you watched it, and I actually had to go back and watch it to see what this nonsense was going on. No, no, we're going to take a break from maybe hockey all together. Yeah, it might be exclusively football, soccer, right?

We'll see if we can get maybe someone from the Canadian team to come on. The Leafs need to – like, they need to get on the road. That's the thing. They did get on the road. You're right, though, noodles. They need, like, a two-week road trip somewhere halfway around the world. You're right. Like, they do.

Like, the Leafs need a five-game road trip right now to find themselves. and come together and, you know, just get away from it because they've been at home for, I feel like, how many games have they played, 17? I feel like 14 or 50, no, 13 of them have been at home, I believe, like something crazy, right? Jamie, I think that's applicable when a team, like, maybe, you know, they played really well, but they don't have any puck luck, and you can say, hey, let's get these guys on the road, go have a bunch of beers, and maybe things will turn around, and they can loosen up a little bit. Right.

Like, they are so far away. and I think they took some solace in the fact that they made some type of comeback in that third period last night I thought they were so far away from winning that hockey game it wasn't even funny I didn't think they had a chance be perfectly honest with you

with the goaltending the stupid penalties and the opportunities that these guys give up whether it's short little two-on-ones or full two-on-ones or three-on-twos throughout the neutral zone you are never going to win man you're never going to win I didn't think they were close last night. And sometimes

analyzing the game up close when you're in the studio and you're doing some video work, sometimes you don't have a, like, you don't get a real grasp on what really happened because you're stepping away to do something. I don't know, but it looked like they didn't really have a chance. You tell me, Brian. No, I

totally agree. I thought the commentary after the game about the third period was as concerning as anything I've heard all year. because that's what bad teams do. Bad teams, they take a 10-game stretch at the end of the season and say, well, we went 7 and 3, that's who we're going to be next year.

Like, that's who we are. Down the stretch, forget the first 72 games. That last 10 games, you know, baseball teams do it all the time. The Jays will go, you know, 18 and 10 in September, finished with 74 wins, but say September, man, we were good. That's who we're going to be next year. And the fact that the Leafs after the game had the audacity to say, well, we stuck up for each other and we fought back and we really showed some good things in the third

and we got to build off that. That's a team that those are comments from a team that don't know how to win or have never won before. And that's what's surprising here is they, I gave them the benefit of the doubt coming into this season that they would be a good regular season team because they have earned that benefit of the doubt for nine years they have been an elite regular season team and you know you can scoff at that you can laugh at that but it's a reality like for nine years they have basically put their feet up and cruised to the playoffs and been one of the best teams in the league year after year after year perennial cup favorite brine in the regular season yes they have no sense of belief

if you're a fan or being objective when it comes to the playoffs and they don't deserve any belief in the playoffs none as an organization and that's not only the last nine years that dates back almost 60 now they do not have any any ability to to seek out belief based on the playoffs but in the regular season i thought they'd be fine i came in i thought you're bringing back the same goalies the same d you still have enough talent you got a coach behind the bench that it's one before that seemed to you know push the right buttons last year i think they earned that sense of belief or the benefit of the doubt and quite frankly it's expired

for me 17 games in like they they are lucky to be 8 8 and 1 they you can look at it in three layers the eye test they're chasing every game they're down early in every single game they're chasing it they get out checked

they get out skated you know they don't have the pucking off they get out shot every single night you know you just look at it they look disconnected they don't look like they know what they're doing half the time, quite frankly. They just look like they lack life and ambition when they're on the ice. So the eye test, layer number one, it's even worse when you apply the stats.

They give up more goals per game than any team in the league, dead last in the league. The worst in the league goals against. They're 28th in shots against. Their power play and penalty killer both bottom three. Their goaltenders can't stop pucks. They're terrible. Like their goaltending stats are awful. They turn the puck over more than anyone else.

They give up odd man rushes more than anyone else. And the third layer is the schedule that you talked about. They've been at home a ton against soft teams. Like it's one, two, three layers where you look at it's 17 games in. And yes, they have the ability to change it because there's a lot of season left. And there's a lot of parity in the league. So that's the glass half full. A lot of parity.

And the team they played against last night is an example about crawling out of a ditch because Boston did it. Early on, I think they lost six in a row. And now last night they won seven in a row. But from what you just detailed right there, it seems awfully difficult to be confident. And I said it to Duffy last night, I was like, it's tough to grab something right now and say, if we can just build off the gold tending, if we can build off the way our deer are playing right now, if we could build off our special. You can't. You just, the way you just said that, it is impossible.

I mean impossible. And the three of us do this for a living. to debate the other end the other side of it and be confident. No, they've been terrible. There's no other way around it. It's flat out terrible. And there is no sugar-coating it, and there's no positive spin on it where you can say, well, you just got to look at this.

Wrong, sorry, can't do it, not going to do it. There's no way to do it what you just said. You were saying that, and I was listening to it, it sounded worse than it actually is. But then when you backed it up with the stats, I'm like, my God. Like, it's that bad. Like, it's bad, man. Like, the game against Pittsburgh, lucky to win, they had one good period. And the most important thing that we've talked about is their schedule, a team like Colorado or some kind of heater team would have such a good record right now.

They would be flying, flying. Yeah, they're 8-8-1. They haven't played anybody, man. Anybody. Well, and here's one more stat, noodles, before you jump in. No, I want to hear it. And this is not one that, you know, we go to a lot. We're going on the bullpen, right?

We're bringing in Brendan Little here. Oh, snaky. So goals above expected. Oh, dude, we don't even do that. No, I'm just going to say it. Above expectation. No, goals scored above expected. Okay.

They have more than any, they're number one in the league. So what that would suggest is there's some luck in the offense. Yes. The PDO. Everything's kind of going in for them. And it's by a significant margin. like so they're scoring at a higher rate than the actual like average chance they're getting so if that balances out and the pucks don't go off the posting in or they don't face some of the bad goalies that they've been facing like we're like we're getting to that evens out then it gets even worse yeah like it's it's staggering man they're really they're they're they're so lucky that they're 500 they're very very lucky but you know it's funny because you dissected it bry he went in three layers because sometimes you know when we talk about it the numbers don't

match type of thing like i didn't realize like i did realize the goals against and all of that type of stuff i look at the stats every day and i'm doing it you know for the teams that i'm calling and all of that you know the power play penalty kill all of that type of stuff but it's it's mesmerizing when you put it all together because it you can look at it and go uh you know their goals against got to get better maybe joseph wall coming back is going to help Stollars has not played well Now I was watching the game and all of a sudden he's not there I don't know where he got hurt

Because did he get hurt or giving up a bad goal to steves Because that's that's the concern I mean The way Baroube answered it after the game would suggest It's you know he said it's not serious And he was asked do you think he can play Thursday And he said I hope like I think You know if if you can play Thursday How can you not play the final 40 minutes of the game?

Maybe cramping or something. The only thing I think about is they didn't want to pull him two games in a row. Would that be two games in a row? That would have been two games in a row against the same team, noodles. So what did they do? They go to them and say you're cramping. We're not pulling you? I don't know.

Or he said, hey, I'm not playing. I don't know. I mean, who knows with the Leafs? The problem is the Leafs are never going to be completely transparent with anything. You know, upper body, lower body. You have no idea. But the fact is, when he did play, it was bad. You know, the two of the three goals were terrible goals.

Yeah, and the thing is, he made the one huge save early on. I was like, okay, this guy's rocket. Like, you know, it was a windmill save or the glove save and then a windmill. I'm like, okay, he's rocking. And then it just kind of, you know, bounce off the skate, the Zaka won. That's a tough play. But, like, outside of that, like, you've got to be better. And you put the Hildebeast in, and they still kept giving up chances.

Well, John is. John is talking about breakways, saying, yeah, they gave up four the other night. Oh, Pasernak on a breakway. I'm like, oh, my God, like. That guy must think, I said last night, like, that guy must think this is some kind of skills competition. He played against Carolina, and all he sees his breakaways. He had five breakaways against Carolina, and then these ones last night. It was insane.

Like, he must be just thinking, is this a, what kind of joke of a league is this? Where a guy gets in, it's supposed to be so hard to get a breakaway in that league, and teams are doing it for fun, for fun. For fun, how many breakways have you seen the Leafs get on? Jake McCabe on the ice. Those are your two vets that you trust. I don't know what's wrong with Jake McCabe, guys. He's highly respected.

He's a veteran that competes. He's playing as bad as he possibly could right now. I've never seen him play like this. And all the times I've watched him throughout the league. He can't pass. He can't defend. He's positionally out of whack. It's tough sledding for him.

There is no doubt, man. But we're seeing it. It's weird. It's hard. We're talking about the Leafs, but I'm watching teams every night and going, that guy's a better player than what I'm seeing. And, you know, you're seeing it from not just the Maple. I'm seeing it throughout the league and the games I watch.

There's players that you're like, okay, that kid, that kid's arrived, this guy, and this guy, I don't know if other times coming from. But I'm sorry, Jamie. Like, I'm not going to get soft. It's the National Hockey League. And when training camp starts, you're expected to go. Like, what is it? Like, it's all shortened training camp.

So guys are a little bit fuzzy. You're hearing it throughout the league. What the hell is it going to be next year when there's no fitness testing? It might be a sideshow out there. Mitch Koff claimed he didn't play hockey for four months. Four months. And he just didn't do anything. I don't know.

Big leagues, the puck drops, got to be ready to go. 100%. What I'm doing, I'm not making excuses for them. I'm making an observation as to my expectation coming into the season, and how I wrap my head around how I view a certain team and how I view a certain player of what I expect out of that player. There's a standard. And you can look through that Toronto Maple Leaf dressing room.

There's new players that I don't know what their standard is. I don't know what Machelli's standard is. I don't know what Joshua's standard is. I do. Well, there is a standard that we expect out of NHL players. What I'm saying is from what we've watched of, name me a player on the Leafs that's been there for three, four years.

Are they playing to their standard? I would say no. That's what I would say. And that's throughout the league, a lot of teams. I would say maybe Matthew Nise and John Tavares. And Tavares isn't even 100%. He made some plays last night where that were just horrendous. Listen, they all get dragged down.

You get dragged up or dragged down by your product. But there is a standard for some of these guys that they're not living up to it. And I don't know how you get out of it. Like I think it's easy for the coach to come in and kick a garbage. garbage can and say you got to be better you got to do this and that systematic play but they look like they're thinking out there they're second on every puck they're losing battles they're they look slow and deliberate sometimes instead of like fast and popping type of thing and that's not just one player that's a bunch of them to a group type of thing so i i i think they

get an opportunity l a lot's no slouch they're good no that's it and then they're in chicago on saturday you know chicago's been really good so yeah listen it's only going to get more difficult. Baruba's got to figure it out. We've always talked, the chicken or the egg, who's responsible for a hot start or a slow start? And generally, you guys have always said, in the pros, it's on the players.

Like, if you're a professional athlete, you have to be ready to play. You just said it out. But they didn't have a great camp. They haven't had a great start. They looked disjointed. Like, Baruba's got to figure it out. He's got to figure out why they're playing this way. Because the neutral zone again last night, it's

a fast pass lane for every opponent I've never seen anything like it every opponent's like they don't even get touched it's breakaway two on one three on two and the way I see it is they're they're dumping it in and they're not

they don't get there and the transition for the opponent is so easy that there's just too many guys in no man's land and okay well here's the problem if you're dumping it in and you're not fast enough to get there that means maybe you should think about chasing or changing the philosophy to

carrying it in and making plays. But when you're not good enough to do that, you've got a serious problem. Well, so it might be a personnel problem. That's where the GM comes into play. But the reality is in 2025, there's nothing you can do. Yeah. Like there's no, you can't call Calgary up and say, let's make a 10-player trade. Doug Gilmore's not walking through the door.

It doesn't happen. The other side of it is, in two weeks, this kind of judgment day where you decide what you are in the National Hockey League, it's been like that forever. I don't think it too, I don't need two weeks to tell you that this team's going to turn it around and on that Thursday I'm going to look at you guys and say these guys are one of the real deal teams it's not happening it's not it's not it's not it is you're right it just this team won three in a row lost three in a row are they somewhere in the middle which is still kind of good but not great or are they like that's what I'm still trying to figure out is what is this

group what is even when they're playing to their capabilities what is the group I think they're struggling to find their identity as as a group and my follow up to that is always like what is their identity like if they were playing to their best yeah yeah like you guys can combo this if they were playing to their identity what exactly would that be tell me brian do you want to go first you want me to jump well i mean at a it used to be you know i'm not talking about you i know i understand i'm not trying to be a dick but this is why but i guess this is the answer they don't have one it's a rhetorical question they don't have one because it used to be under Keefe and it didn't work come playoff time and all that,

was, you know, they would have a roster of players that held on. We always talk, hey, there goes Pierre Engval, circling back. There goes Timothy Lilligran back behind his net to slow it down. That's the system they played. Now, you know, I guess what Craig Barubi, I'm sure what he wants is them to look like the 2019 blues. He won the cup with that style, with that team. They don't have that personnel, you know, like they don't. So, to answer your question, last year the identity was high-end goaltending and, you know, high-end talent that could break through and they'd score a lot of goals.

You know, I mean, that was kind of what it was. Well, but even skilled players, they were stingy to an extent. They were. The goaltending masked a lot of it, and it still can. Like, that's the biggest, the most glass, half-full proposal I can make to a fan base. now Storos is an incredibly dark place right now. Like ever since the comments and now he's been pulled twice, like it's a mess for him.

Like it's a real problem. And I don't know what Joseph Wall is going to return to because he's missed so much time. I think it's just unfair to put an expectation on it. I think it's unreasonable to know exactly what he's going to be. He's played a game and a half. Exactly. And miss camp and how many times have we talked about that?

When you miss camp and you miss the start of the season, it's jumping on a moving train. It's very tough to do. but if they can get back to a top 10 tandem, which is what they had consistently last year, that's going to mask a lot of problems. Like that's the easiest way out to at least allow yourself to breathe. Well, it gives you some consistency in the net where you're like, okay, you make a mistake and the goalie will bail you out.

We saw a lot of that last year. What I meant, Brian, about them being a stingy team is that six defensive core was heavy. They moved pucks, but they, you know, to a man, I think Craig Brewery, Ruby had them playing forwards coming back, you know, tracking back, allowing the D to have good gaps. So they were stingy. And then when they did have a breakdown, that's where the goaltender masked it. This year, the breakdowns are glaring and the goaltending isn't masking it.

And the forwards are disjointed with the D and the D are disjointed with the goaltender. Like it just doesn't look like it's consistent. And, you know, I've had people reach out to me and say, well, the Mitch Marner effect. But Mitch Marner, yes, was a very good defensive player and a very good puck transporter. Johnny's talked about it all the time, his zone entries, their power play looks different because who's lugging the puck up? When you do the slingshot drop back, it was always Marner that got the entry and he flipped it out to Matthews and then he got it back and he set it up. It's a different team. I get it.

But at some point, the players that are there have to step up and find different ways. And I still think they're struggling to find their consistency with that. Like I say, Nise is at a good start. Matthew's iffy up and down. Nealander does what he does. Tavares does what he does. But off of that, it's a cliff. Like, it really is a cliff.

Like, that's, and that's what's concerning is John Tavaros is 35. You expect him to be a really good support guy, not to be a guy to drag them. Exactly. Well, now with the Matthews story, it puts a spotlight on him. Like, I don't know what happened to him last night. And what, honestly, the Zadora of him wasn't that. crazy of a hit guys like he he stood up at the blue line he didn't he didn't run him he didn't you know he didn't elbow him in the back of the head it looked like there was more chance of him

getting injured trying to hit sidora and i think the worst part of that is oh because i agree with you i was so happy when i saw him do that because i've never really seen him do that in 10 years i'm like oh great here we go he's pissed this now he's alive zadora just hit him and knocked some sense into him he's like now you're going to deal with the big boy and he throws a retaliation a hit and he gets hurt if that's what he got hurt from and it's like oh man because listen prior to him getting hurt i didn't even notice him last night and this is you know the elephant in the room is again getting back to the projection of the season i thought this team would be good i thought they'd make the playoffs i'm not ready to say they're not going to i'm not suggesting that

we're reviewing 17 games i was more convinced matthews would put a steak in the ground and say I'm coming for everyone that's been talking about me. Everyone that thinks I'm cooked. Everyone that thinks my body's broken down or I can't play without Mitch or whatever. I thought he'd be

phenomenal and the schedule set up beautifully for that and he's been good. He has not been great. He's not been a suit. He hasn't been anywhere close to a top ten player in the league. And now he's injured. Hopefully it's short term.

Hopefully there's no injury. Hopefully he gets back tomorrow. Well, it's a big segment coming up. If Stolars is out for any duration, and Austin Matthews is, and there's 8 to 10 on the road, or 8 of 11 on the road coming up, there's a big segment of the season right there. It's your whole season. That's your season.

It's a defining moment. You came over the top. I will come over the top, though. I think so. I don't think that's embellion. Fine. You elbow me right in the head from the top turnbuckle, and I'll take it. I'll take it.

Yeah. 10, 11 games, if those guys aren't available and it's on the road and you're 8, 8 and 1 already. Yeah, season. It's a season on the line. Yes, it kind of feels like it. Question for you, though. What did they announce for Matthews? Nothing.

Yeah, they said lower body, but honestly, how can you trust anything? How can you trust anything? If he had a hangnail, they wouldn't say anything. I understand that, but usually there is a vicinity. Like when he hit there, I thought, okay, maybe it's a shoulder, but then, I was watching his legs going, did he twist his knee? But that's my point, noodles. He had something, the whole, he went to Germany last year.

We don't even know what it was. Like, how could, I don't take, I take everything, they say, with a grain of salt. Like, that's, how could you, it doesn't matter. They're not going to tell you, but I don't know what he's suffered from last night. You hope that he's all right. You hope that Stolars just had a cramp or something like that. He didn't have his A game. Like, there's lots of, you know, what ifs.

What scares you more, though, through, 17 games? Matthews or Stolars? Stolars because he set a standard the last couple years, and I've been saying it, and I'm not saying, hey, I'm right, I'm a hero. What I'm saying is, as a backup to Brobroski, he was fantastic, his numbers were unbelievable, and rightfully so. He earned it. He came here last year, his numbers were fantastic, and he played great, but he played 34 games.

Here, this year, because of Joseph Wohl's absence, he had to play a lot. and if you stumble, they would go to Wall. But there was nobody there for them to go to. It's like, you've got to go back. You're playing, you're playing. That's the difference. The difference between being on pace to play 34 and playing 55 or 60, it's a lot different. I know what Austin Matthews is capable of.

So I've seen it for years. So when I say he's playing up to his standard, we will all know. But I'm more concerned if Stolar's, he needs wool to get it back up. on the on the rails because i think the two of them can feed off of each other that's the way i feel okay yeah i i'm nervous about math i'm nervous about the big guy i got to be honest like i'm last year he could chalk it up to he was injured and that's true this year he was healthy prior to last night well i don't know what this is going to mean for him hopefully again it's nothing you know there was no update today hopefully he's playing tomorrow if he's not

day to day and he's okay but he did not he was not lighting the league on fire you know like it was 17 games in it looked like it was going to be a 40 goal 85 point season really good season really good player

but you need him to be with the McDavid's and the McKinnons and the dry sidles and like that's where he's got to be that's what you need you need that out of him and I don't want to put the car before the horse, but

if, you know, that's, that is a, he needs to prove it. He needs to prove it when he gets back that he can get back there because he's done it his whole career. Right. He's done it his whole career and he's still a very effective player. But he's probably a microcosm with the whole team. He is capable of a lot more. You know, they're all capable of a lot more. So let me ask you this before we go to break. Is there one thing that you would would just want to start with tomorrow what do you start with one thing i don't know if there is one but

is there one thing how about how about win on the shot clock in the first period tomorrow that's a simple thing have more shots than the kings through 20 minutes forget everything else have more shots start there win win 10 6 on the shot clock in the first period tomorrow and take it from there how about eliminate the dumbo plays that would be good too that would be Breakaways, no like just egregious two-on-ones, three-on-tos to start the game, and have it look like there's some urgency and intensity. You combo those two things and see if you can start there because neither or neither are there, and it's alarming how noticeable it is.

They haven't had a game. Have they had a complete game this year? The Utah game, they played pretty well, but you're right, noodles. They played 17. There's like two or three you can point to where, You can say definitively they were the better team. You know, there have been a couple of coin flip games, but they've been outplayed a lot. Like, there's no disputing.

They've got to start somewhere, and that's the thing. They've got to get out of this, man. Yep, they do. They've got a long season ahead of them. They still have a lot of time. Like, that's where you've got to keep coming back to. And they've earned that for nine years. The regular season has not been a problem for them.

They've been comfortable in the regular season. And there's a lot of parity in the league. There's a lot of parody. All right, Johnny coming up, Jerry coming up. We've got observations around the league because we've been talking about it. We're going to get to that and more still to come. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN4.

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Okay, I made that one up. All the tech, one connection. Yeah, this Wi-Fi can. Switch to Wi-Fi 7 on Bell Pure Fiber, Canada's fastest internet awarded by Ucla. Visit bell.ca to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. Paisy, I've got some good news and I've got some bad news for you. Noodle 08 Gold Star Flyer, and I would imagine on the way home from Winnipeg, you would be flying first class?

Potentially. I'm not going to divulge that information. Why? I just, because you're going to have company. Lloyd and Harry are coming with you, pal. I upgraded me and Hazy B, and we will be going first class on the way home. Wow, look at you. I checked there.

I don't think there was enough seats up there. There's no way this guy's being truthful because I checked in on the way there. I'm pretty sure I'm on the roof to get to Winnipeg. Well, there lies the problem. I attempted, out of my own money, to get you up there for the way there, and there was no room. Oh, good, man. You're going to have to sit in the back.

I'm up there, but you're not. That's fine by me. I am a low-maintenance flyer. I will be asleep before the wheels are in the air. Are you a sleeper on the plane? Oh, yeah. Like, his motion gets me. That's really what it is.

Like, if the plane is taxi, like, sitting still, I cannot fall asleep. The second, it's, like, moving and gets going, especially early. Like, and I don't have kids around. like that's the big thing like i shouldn't say this because i know my wife's in the car right now and she's white knuckling listening to this like you will be a three-hour shutdown tomorrow and i intend on doing just that there's no better feeling than waking up basically when you land it's the greatest thing ever where you hit the run yeah it just doubles down like it starts shaking and you're like oh we're here i'm gonna peg i'd love it i told you guys that i only did

that once and that was last year but i was well over served so i had a five-hour flight where i crashed so outside of that i i maybe can take a little nap here or there but honestly i i whether you where you sit oh that's netflix time yeah netflix put the headphones on if somebody says hi you have a stop and chat and you move on that's that that's it you know i'm a reader man i'm a magazine guy i love i'll buy magazines really see i just said you sleep the whole time that's what you really puts me to sleep I'll start reading something. Yeah, but I went and picked up a couple this morning.

Like decent magazine. Like, I played with a guy who was a creep, and he would bring on creepy magazines, and we would fly commercial. We flew commercial before 9-11, remember? Like, there was teams that flew commercial. Like Playboys and stuff? Is that what you're talking about? Yes.

Like, that's extreme. It's one thing if it's like a max. Dude, if you peel out a pee boy in front of random stranger. This guy, I'll never forget. I was sitting in, like, row 28 middle seat. Fan out the center fold. With a lift-up. Yeah, if you do a lift-up in a minute.

I don't know, man. That's aggressive. There are teammates. I guarantee you I would get messages from people who listen to this segment going, I know the player who you're talking about. There was a guy who would bring magazines, adult magazines. It should be never allowed on an aircraft again. That's wild stuff, Ben.

This is pre-camera phones. This is pre-9-11 so that we flew commercial. Keep in mind, the NHL flew commercial quite a bit. I was with the New York Islanders flying commercial, and the team services guy would hand out the tickets. Like, the rookies got middle rows. Like, I'd be in 29E, you know, and I'd be looking up and seeing a guy. Like, it was.

The world has changed. like exactly our kids would never understand it like they watch my kids watch home alone all the time and the whole premise of home alone both movies is that just someone gets lost and doesn't get on the plane yeah just left or the tickets get thrown up in the air and they're like yeah just go ahead and yes it's for effect and it's a movie but it's not that extreme like it used to be you had to have your ticket and if you didn't some other guy had it he was in your seat yeah like There was no checks and balances. It was no different than getting a ticket to go to the gardens, you know,

or go to the dome or whatever. It was crazy. I'm telling you, I can see, like, I can actually visualize that guy sitting in his seat with the magazine in front of him, open, and a lift up and a close look. A lift up and a close look is airport security. Crazy. Center fold lift up. And a close look.

And glasses on for inspection is a wild maneuver. They're going into a jail in the airport. Yeah, that's the kind of stuff that would go viral today. Now you just see people fighting and stuff on airplanes. Well, yeah, that. Which I'd take your buddy over that kind of buffoonery. Yeah, there's people that just, there was a lady that, you know, I think it was yesterday on a flight I was on. and then, you know, you're supposed to let, if you're sitting in whatever, row four,

the people in front of you are supposed to get out, and then four, and then five, or whatever. This lady bombed up, man, and tried to get in front of some people that, you know, we're in business class, and the guy said something. He's like, do you want to just wait? Like, everyone wants to say something, yes. But one guy was like, you just want to wait, and she got chippy, and he got chippy right back with her. He's like, I'm sorry. Like, she's like, I'm in a hurry.

He's like, you don't think we are? Everybody's in a hurry. Everybody's in a hurry. I was like, oh, I didn't even, I just turned. I had my headset on. I just turned away. I was like, I do not need to get involved in this nonsense. But the guy was, he was in the right.

She was in the wrong, but I wasn't going to intervene on that. Okay. No. Well, let's hope none of that happens tomorrow. And the O'DG, the first one on, first one off. You have to wait for me, man. You're going to have to wait. It could be 45 minute wait.

I will. But I'll be there with my magazines walking around. All right, we've got MJ coming up. I think Seth Jarvis might join us. He's a Winnipeg boy. That's why we wanted to get Seth on. He's playing great. Obviously, Team Canada, Four Nations, Carolina.

But Seth, what are we walking into in the peg? Right, so we'll get to that. He might send a few of his buddies down, too. If you see him in that prime thing, he's got all his buddies that drove down for the playoffs. He's got some goon buddies. I guarantee you they might show up if you're older-time fans. I love it. wait. So we'll catch up with Jerry. We've got our observations. We've got a lot. We've got to get to

here as we prep for the Grey Cup and heading to Winnipeg tomorrow. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on the TSN app. My name is Maria. Okay, I lied. It's Mary. But I just got back from a European style holiday on MSC cruises. And it made me want to be more European. Oh, the restaurante. I mean restaurants. Nightlife and shops in La Galleria. Sorry, sorry. Even North American stuff like water slides and a sports bar and the views were bellissima. Okay, this is a problem. Book and save, get drinks and Wi-Fi included. Visit MSCcruises.ca, or contact your travel agent.

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Visit bell.ca to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. You're going to want to hear this. Jerry's percentages. I don't love being commissioner as much as I used to. I actually love it even more. That's the voice of a f***. Hall of Famer.

Are you kidding? Have you been out drinking? Jerry, Jerry! You're all pigeons. Filthy, filthy pigeons. It's Jerry, G-E-E-D-R-Y. All right, Jerry, very nice of him to be flexible today, right? Usually Jerry comes up a little bit later, but you've got Johnny coming up.

We've got Seth Jarvis coming up. Seth said he'd come on and set the scene for us because we're going to his hometown. He said, all right, I'll come on and tell you about the peg. You guys are on your way out there. So we'll catch up with Jarvis in about 45. minutes so jerry's been a busy guy said i'll come on at 445 i love it very flexible very flexible you guys ready to hear from jerry jumbo jerry has all his takes ready to rock so the three dumbo's on the show better be ready to roll let's do it joseph wall will start more games than anthony

stole ours the rest of the season jumbo jerry i like that it's got a ring to it i'm not not bad all right joseph wall more starts than stole ours the rest of the way you know what recency bias how could you not have a positive percentage on this i'm going to say 65 percent 65 percent how could you not be on the positive side of this percentage just from what we've seen it's a mess back there maybe he can help out seems unlikely but well it's a lot of pressure to put on him considering he's literally playing played a game and a half since last year and he missed training camp and all that. I want him to have success.

I feel like it's going to be close to a split. Now, if he plays two more games, that means he did. But I'm 48% on this. Stolars can get his game together. It's going to go hand in hand with the guys in front of him as well. So if they play better in front of him and he gets his game in order, I think they'll split the rest of the way type of thing. So I'm 48% on it.

Yeah, I mean, listen, Joseph Wall has had injury problems in his career. He's a good goalie. It's not as if Hellebuck is returning here. You know, you've got to be reasonable. Like, it's not, this is not the savior that's returning. And if that's what anyone's expecting, then I think you're bracing for disappointment. I know, but it shouldn't be that crazy to expect a guy to come back and play well. No, and he can hear like three or five.

four for him like he's talented guy like we always say like oh give him the I don't think it's crazy to say you know what come back and be good no it should be that should be the expectation and he should be and I believe he can be he's a very talented goaltender but I just I also think Stolars is a very good goaltender both of them there's nothing no shame in being tandem guys

and tandem means you know almost every second night you're going to be in They're not every night. And I think that's where they had their best success last year, where both of them were available and they were pushing each other. So that's kind of where I feel like it's going to be coin flip. And you want to have that scenario. You want to have them both playing well. So it's like you're looking at the schedule going,

okay, this guy has a history against this team. You're looking at how their records are against individual teams, not just going, we need to start from somebody because neither one of them have been good. You know, I think you, that's what you're aiming for if you're Curtis Sanford and Craig Barubi. Yeah, I'd go 55%, because I think, you know, Stolaris has had his injury issues in his career as well. He hasn't suffered any this year.

Last night, notwithstanding, whatever that was. So I'm a little bit concerned that that could be the case. But it is, like, the more we talk about it, you know, that that is a light at the end of the tunnel that is potentially there for them. Like, it could be, hey, when Wall returned, everything settled back in. Like, that's what they got to hope for, that he gets back. this weekend he installers push each other you know they turn into a tandem and they get above league average goaltending if you get that you're in a really good spot for any team you get above

league average goaltending you're in a good spot yeah so that that is definitely an optimistic view here all right jerry what else do you have at least two maple leaves will finish the season with more points than mitchell marner three of them currently have more than him right now Willie Tavares and I is. Marner has 19. I'm going to say 25%. I think that Mitch is probably going to go on a heater here any time and probably pass them all would be my guess.

25%. Hard to be positive on any of this stuff right now, to be honest with you. I'm related. I'm low on it just because of two things. Marner got to 100 points last year Willie's never got to 100 points He's never He's more of a goal scorer than an assist guy

So I don't have it in front of me But what's his career high in points? 88, 89 I think maybe he hit 90 points Right, let's say 90 I think he was maybe just over 90 But Mitch can get that in Vegas Different team, all of that type of stuff And I don't think John's going to get there

And I don't think Nize is going to get there to be honest. Nyes is having a great start statistically and getting points and all that, but he's been more of a 60-point guy. I think Nise could be a pointed game guy, which would be 82, right? So I'm low on this. I'm 22%. Yeah, I'm low too.

Now, Willie's off to a great start, man. Yep. Like, Neelander is putting up points. He is. You know, if he asked me this before the season, I'd say it'd be Willie and Austin that I thought could do it. Matthew's got, he's putting up points, you know, not like a 10. ton of points, not what he has shown in the past.

Right. But now with last night, I don't know what that's going to mean for him. But, you know, Vegas, again, like, they just, they're not a team that generally has guys no, you know, rocking up tons of points. They probably wanted to get 70.

Yeah, and he's moved around already this year. He's been on the first line, second line, you know, like they're not going to play them 24, 25 minutes a night. Like he did it, like he will at times. Of course he will. But I still, I think you got to have faith in mourners health. Like, he's been healthy as whole career.

So is Willie. But 40%, 40% chance. What else you got, Jerry? Bobichette will be a Toronto Blue Jay next season. All right, little Jay's jumbo, Jerry. Quickly around the horn, I'll go 100%. I'm just going based on a lot of the insiders in the baseball world. They have them, like, if you go to the free agents and where they're matched or paired

are likely to go to a lot of them say the Blue Jays. Why not? There's some funky reports out there in baseball right now. Like there's a reporter down a Yankee reporter claiming or reporting that Paul Skeens has been telling teammates he wants to play for the Yankees. Yeah. Who does that? Who would do that?

Yeah. Yeah. Really, you believe that Paul, hey, buddy, come over here for a second. I just want you to know. I really want to play for the Yankees. Yeah. Now, beat it. see you later I'm not fine he may end up with the Yankees but I don't think he's telling people

he wants to play for the Yankees yeah but as for Bichette go ahead Nudels I'm high on this 98% I think whatever offer he gets out there I think the Js can match if they want to and I think he wants to stay here I really do I think it's about respect and getting paid and they'll give them both yeah I'm not as high as you guys and the reason may surprise you I'll say say 60% but I think the Js are like big game hunting and they love Bo but they might love someone

even more than Bo. And it's like if it's Kyle Tucker they're taking Tucker over Bo Bichette and it may be a scenario where they look at Bo and say thanks for everything man but we're going a different direction. Well if he gets any sniff of that he'll tell

them to stuff it before they do that's for sure. But you see we just talked about schemes and the Yankees I've seen already, I think it was Simmons writing, that Bichette was talking about, I wouldn't mind playing for the Yankees? That was the Vladdy Guerrero Jr. playbook, and it plays beautifully in Toronto.

Like, that's a great negotiation tact. If you want the Js to pony up, you let everyone know you might be a Yankee. I'd kind of be cool to play for the Yankees. It works, because everyone hates the Yankees here. Everyone hates the idea the Yankees scooping up our players, quote-unquote. And it puts pressure on the front office to get the job done and pay what you've got to pay to make sure it doesn't happen.

True. So, Bo might be taking a page out of the Vladi playbook already. All right, hour two coming up. Johnny coming up, Seth Jarvis coming up, Best Betts coming up. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on the TSN app. You've been listening to Overdrive, powered by Fandul. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score.

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