OverDrive - OverDrive - November 7, 2025 - Hour 1 - Luke Willson

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

Join Aaron Korolnek, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss Hockey Canada's jerseys for the Winter Olympics, Connor Bedard and Macklin Celebrini's opportunity to make the team, the Hockey Hall of Fame induction and Joseph Woll's return to the Maple Leafs. TSN Football Analyst Luke Willson joins the Broncos' TNF win, the Ravens looking for redemption and Hayes and Bro and O'Win Willson's Week 10 picks.

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Welcome to Overdrive for your Friday afternoon here on TSN4, TSN1050, the IHeart Radio app, live on TSN's YouTube channel. Hello, Canada. I'm Aaron Kourlnick, and for Brian Hayes with my friends Jamie McClennon and Jeff O'Neill. Great to see you, fellas. What's going on? Not much. Hello, Canada. Worldwide.

Worldwide. Hello, Canada is a nice touch. I'm not going to lie. Speaking of O Canada, I have to ask you, gentlemen, right out of the gate, are you infuriated and extremely disappointed like the majority of Canadians who took to social media yesterday and completely destroyed the new jerseys that are put out there for the Canadians to wear? I could not believe the angst amongst Canadians. I thought they're awesome jerseys. Like, I don't know. I even had a conversation with a colleague of ours today who hated them.

I won't mention his name. Maybe initials, F, C. No. But I don't know. Aren't they good-looking jerseys? It's 2025. If there was ever going to be a retro one, I like the old school 87 Canada Cup one. 91, whatever it was.

The Canada Cup one with the half of the Leafs jersey or the half of the leaf logo that's red and the rest white i thought those were fantastic but i just don't get how mad people were about those things i don't know i mean aka i don't know how you feel i i saw them i was like all right like you know what it is but what about them jamie like what about them made you say all right they i like them but like i like unique things i like the fisherman logo that i played for with the islanders i'm one of the only guys who did so i try to give the benefit of the doubt. What it is is hockey Canada built it up, right? They had

a little social media thing. It's like little picture of an arm and going wait until we got an announcement tomorrow and everyone's like, okay, what do we do? You know what it was like, Jamie? It was like Cracker Barrel. It was like the Cracker Barrel announcement where everyone went nuts over Cracker Barrel. They're like

that logo stinks. The overreaction is just preposterous. I'm totally with you. It's not like they had those Pittsburgh Steeler jerseys that Aaron Rogers was wearing that were absolutely heinous. That's not what hockey Canada is trotting out here. They're okay. I'm not the biggest when it comes to discussing if this jersey is great, if this jersey is

terrible, I don't really have that point in an opinion, but to go out and say these are the worst jerseys evers, and I know exactly who you were talking about, oh, I don't really understand. Well, he said, it's Frankie Corrano. I didn't say that. I didn't say lots of employees. Frank Costanza? Who knows it?

No, no, no, no. There's lots of employees. and it's not who you just said it was. It's JP. It's JP. That's what it is. It's blamed JP. I'm telling you right now, it was not Frank. So you can keep guessing. But I just don't think they're that bad.

Listen, I think I like blood red. Like, I like the dark, rich red. Like, I love that. Anytime the logo, I thought the logo popped, but it didn't pop in a way like it stood off. It was subtle. I just, I liked it, and I was like, oh, you know, but it didn't. To be honest, oh, I spent a minute on it.

I did not see the blowback that Hockey Canada was getting. I was in Boston last night, so I really didn't. I wasn't on X, and I wasn't on Twitter a lot last night. But to be honest, I didn't know there was blowback. I really felt, no, they look good. It wasn't really a blowback, Jamie. It was people that, you know what people are like these days. They just can't wait to find a reason to complain about something.

And there was some people that were basically seemed like they were, offended by these things you know what i mean like one guy wrote it was like burn the black one and the red one the white one's fine and i'm like god that's so burn extreme it's like i don't know and they didn't have i think when they showed them if they could show them again they didn't have numbers or anything on them they like like when you put the mckinon 29 and the name on the back they just look so much better joe from the bridge fire them up again like i don't know they just they look plain like that but when you doctor them up with the lettering and the names and the number like they look pretty sharp i don't know it i don't know i agree like where the numbers

i'd like to see one with a numbers and a c on it like a macdavid one or whatever to see how it pops because to be honest when i look at a jersey some of it is the color some of it is the logo and that but how the name bar and how every the numbers are layout um we should actually talk to like play by play people like gordon miller because those are the guys who have to spot it from the press box and and read the numbers and do that like i always go by talking to play-by-play people going that's really tough name bar to read or the numbers and that but i i think you know i like those jerseys i don't have a problem with them they look simple and elegant and classy and you hope that that by the end what late february that it's got a gold hanging around somebody that's exactly

that's what i care about and again we're getting close we're getting closer and closer to the announcement of the team. And I know you guys had a heated debate about Celebrini yesterday, whether or not he'll be on the Olympic team. Is he not on your team, A.K. He is. He is. He is. I guess he's not on Coco's team. I know Coco is Celebrini's number one fan.

He loves Mac. But a guy who I think you didn't give nearly enough love to yesterday is Bidard. And I understand that these are the two guys that are kind of being pitted against one another in a very similar vein to Crosby and Ovechkin 20 years ago. and we saw those two guys go toe-to-to-to last night with Pittsburgh and Washington. We're setting this up for the next 20 years,

maybe to take the mantle from Crosby and Ovechkin, Celebrini and Bedard. But Bedard's in action tonight. They take on Calgary, San Jose's playing in Winnipeg. Bedard's three points behind Celebrini. I think he's got a legit chance to make the team too. And it wouldn't be that shocking to me. If Bedard, what if he rips off two points tonight,

you point behind Celebrini and McDavid, can you take them both, would be the question. Here's my retort to that. is they've got enough talent. Where would Bedard's slot? Because in talking to coaches throughout the league and all of that, the knock on badard, it's not points. It's can he play away from the puck?

Is he strong enough to win loose puck battles? If he's out there in a defensive zone and it's Austin Matthews or Matthew could chuck in the corner or Brady could chuck, who's coming out with that puck? That's what I worry about. So Celebrini, why I have felt that Celebrini is ahead of Bedard a little bit right now. And I think Bedard's fantastic. I did the Patrick game for him last week against Ottawa.

He looks like he's found another level, A.K. So I'm not far off on him being at least considered, but I think it's taken him a while to learn to play away from the puck in this league. So year, Celebrini, there was a stat last year. Luce Puck battles, like he was number two in the league for a while. Like, this guy has Crosby in him already, Cellebrini does. So that's where I think, when you look at it, McDavid, McKinnon, you know, all top players, those guys, we're talking about guys farther down in the lineup. They're going to have to play checking roles.

They're going to have to play different type of roles. That's why I don't see Baderd in my mix. I do believe that Celebrity could handle that physicality at this point. I don't know how you feel about it, though. it just comes down to i think you're talking about you know young guys and can you shoot the puck and point what is his role going to be on that team because i think we even said it about celibriene yesterday it's like is this guy going to be on the power play probably not yeah you know you're talking about the first unit um of reinhart mckinan and crosbie they're going

out there man mac david too yes mac david i'm sorry mac david what am i talking about McDavid, too. So that first unit, the best players in the world and in Canada, they got like first unit obligations where it's like, you go out there and do your thing. If that's for a minute and a half, that's what it's going to be. It's going to be for a minute and a half. It's 90 seconds.

So the scraps are the second power play. But that being said, I think everything's on the table. And if you're Doug Armstrong, you have to look at it. Because these young kids are pushing through. We're seeing it every night. You're seeing it every night as a 22-year-old. This cutter Gochier, man, like this guy's scoring goals. Like, it's easy for him.

Philly must hate watching that. Well, yeah, I was talking to somebody from Philly yesterday. And keep in mind, Gochier chose not to go there, right? I get it. I get it. They loved it. They had to do something with him, but they must watch that and be like. Well, you're sick to your stomach because, listen, Drysdale's a hell of a player.

But it's, you know, I'm not going to say it, and it's a bad analogy, but it's Taylor Hall for Adam, what was that? Larsson, Adam Larson, you know, nice player, all of that. But it's like, and Gochier is a goal score, and goal scoring is very tough to do at the NHL level. And Q has those guys, like, that team is young and exciting, and they score, man. Like, they're a good team. But, you know, coming back to your conversation, AK, like, they have to be at least looked at. And when you're playing that well, you have to look at them and go, can they fit into the dynamic this year, if not for four years from now they're a lock?

But I'm just saying, like, this year there is a chance. Well, it's wild because I remember, was it 2007, 2008, when Ovechkin and Crosby had those dueling hat tricks in the playoffs. And they were, what, 22, 23 at the time? And like 16 years later, these guys are still kicking at the rate that they're playing and go in toe to toe and both having great games last night. And I wonder if it's Celebrini and Bedard, who will be the next in line to have that type of rivalry. I understand it's a little bit different in that they are in different divisions, unlike Crosby and Ovechkin were.

But is that who you see the NHL passing the mantle to when it comes to that kind of rivalry? Is that a possibility that these two guys could be the next in line to have that epic showdown year after year? They could be, but they've got ways to go. Like when you talk about Sid and Ovi, you're talking about Ovi stepping into the guy. the league and ripping home 50 goals. You know what I mean? Like in being like an MVP type candidate, same with Sid. And these other kids, like Salabrini was good and then he's really good this year.

But we're talking about Bedard being in his third year, aren't we, where it's like he's rounding into form now. So those other two that you just mentioned, Sid and Ovi, they're superstars right off the bat, like the first overall draft picks and legends and studs and rookie of the year and then up for the heart and then getting their team in the playoffs and then competing for Stanley Cups. it seems like the progression sometimes nowadays it's like obviously there was McDavid

the last one to step in and be the next one but these two other kids like they got a long way to go before that you know they're going to be the marquee matchup on TV on a Saturday in the States yeah they're going to market it like that but to get to the level of the other two they got a ways to go yeah well and it's fair because the minute you said it I was like well who's McDavid's kind of nemesis there's nobody

Florida Panthers. You're right, but he's on an island. Like, he's actually, I believe McDavid is on an island. I think when he plays McKinnon, like that one playoff series when Colorado beat him, and they went on to win the cup. I thought McKinnon versus McDavid, like those guys are going toe to toe. Yeah, and that's fair, but it just, I look at it, like, there hasn't been that next wave. You're right, it's Sid and then Ovi.

It was Lemieux and Gretzky, Sid and Ovi. There's no real McDavid. and somebody, it could be Nate, it could be somebody else. It might be this Jack Hughes is a hell of a player. I just don't know. Hughes has taken a while and he's been injured and all of that. There's good players, but like you said, oh, there isn't these perennial guys where it's like 100 points every year, you know, heart finalist, rockets, all of that type

of stuff where, and deep into the playoffs. Like that's the, you know, Matthews has had a few runs where you're like, okay, he's in that conversation and for sure. there's also winning Jamie like winning you're right like you look at great players like Matthew scoring almost 70 goals not a lot of winning McDavid getting to the finals twice not a lot of winning yeah like back in the day when you were talking about Gratsky Lemieux like there was there was winning involved you're right they they were they were like deep into the playoffs or winning cups

yeah and and winning multiple cops not not just one type of it was almost like you put their jersey on Lemieux or Gratsky or Sid and OVy, although OVy there's not a lot of cut, but it was like their team instantly became a contender. Just from that jersey going over top of one guy's shoulders. Instant contender. It's funny we talk about Crosby Novetskin

because the Hall of Fame game tomorrow night in Toronto with the Boston Bruins in town. Duncan Keith. Sunday night against Carolina? Yes. Excuse me. Duncan Keith, McGilney, Joe Thornton, Jennifer Bottero, Brianna Decker, and Zadano Chara getting inducted. And I am

curious, after all the tormentor that Zadano Chara put Maple Leaf fans through over the years in his career, does he get cheered? Has anyone been booed at their Hall of Fame game? Because, again, we put together a lot of different Viz and B-Role today with Zadano Chara, some of which you're featured in, you know, Darcy Tucker smashing him through the glass and the ragdolling. I chose a different road.

You did, you did, but Zadano Chara is a guy. I mean, you consider what's happened over the last 20 years of the Toronto Maple Leafs. He's been up close and personal. Look at this. Tux is going in for the kill. I'm like, I need to find the puck here. I don't want to hit that guy. I got the puck.

I got the puck. Look at this mutant chara. He's so big. Look at me. Please, Chara, don't do anything stupid. Yeah, exactly. Remember which Charla? Chara was just grabbing, what, McCabe?

Was he ragged all in McCabe? That's a classic. That was the first time I've ever. Tux was the only guy, and Tux isn't the biggest guy. he's like that's Mark Savard that he pushed over right there Yeah Mark Savard Tux is the only guy that I've seen knock over

Zedano Chara Yeah And I've never seen anybody with like a hit Anything knock him over And Tux I remember watching that to myself And the first thing that came through my mind Was holy you know what

He just knocked Chara over I couldn't focus I don't know what I did with that puck behind the nap But probably nothing Dumped it to the other corner Probably wise Yeah but that's That Chara, I think the respect should be handed out.

And the best part about it is, yes, Chara, yeah, Montreal, they hated him there because of the Patcheretti injury, which, listen, he gave him a shove into the turnbuckle. I believe it, like, broke a vertebrae or something awful. But Chara played for keeps. And in the end, you wanted him on your team. Like I said, I did the game in Boston last night. People still talk about him. He set a standard there for the culture. This guy won, but he expected it from himself.

He expected it from his teammates. Everything this guy did, he's a very classy human. So I would expect that the fans would give him a cheer. But I get it. You know, listen, he was a part of a tormenting Boston team that tormented the Maple Leafs. This is him tossing ugly face around? Oh, yeah.

Oh, I don't know what old Cabr was. I wish we had him on today just to say, what in the hell were you thinking fightings of Del Charra? Caber was tough, though. I love Caber. He was tough, but he has little short Irish arms, and it was like he had no chance against that guy. That's true, the short, stubby arms. Like, didn't Charra used to wrestle with his old man? Yes.

Back where he lived. Greco-Roman wrestlers. In Edmonton, I would hear stories about it because I did not train in that gym, but there was a gym where him and his old man, you know, who's as big as him, so two six-foot-eight mutants throwing each other around on the mat, and people are like, what is going on here? Apparently, like, that's, they trained for keeps everything. And keep in mind, Chara, there's video of him when he first started in the Western Hockey League. He was like Bambi on ice. He didn't skate real well. like it took him a while to grow into his body even early years in ottawa right like it

it wasn't a perfect science for charro but you could see once he put it together you're like this guy is the full package he was in all noodles when he was on the island man as a forward i was like i used to say to ronnie if we get that charr out there cycle and make plays because that guy is bambi he can't even move get him moving exactly but i get him in the corner and get him shuffling side to side and you're going to have some kind of open two-on-one, like make a pass under his stick, through his legs, he ain't catching you, and he ain't going to defend. He was terrible. Yeah.

And then he got to Ottawa and turned into an absolute monster. And you know what? Like, the minute his coordination caught up with him, it was like this guy is an animal, full-on animal, because he trained, you know, he trained so hard. It was unbelievable shape. and he was dedicated to his craft. Like, you know, I went to Slovakia and whatever it was 2016 and spent some time with him on a three-day tour we did for Pavel Demetra.

And he's just an awesome, awesome guy. And you know what? Like going in, I must have been off the show. I don't know if you talked about it. McGilney's doing it by Zoom, correct? Yeah, he's not coming to the Hockey Hall of Fame this weekend, no. Like, I'm good type of thing, like check please? I don't know.

It could be like the G. political thing. I don't know what it's really said for certain. Like, who knows? But I just saw that. He was like, all right, we'll do it through Zoom.

Yeah. It is what it is, you know? Yeah, well, everyone else would be there. Duncan Keith, getting in, well-deserved.

Joe Thornton, that'll be awesome. Some great stories around him and going again. Sheldon Keith will join us at 530 today. Coach Joe Thornton with the Leafs for a couple of years,

Jennifer Botterl and Brianna Decker as well. So a back-to-back for the Leafs this week. And again, Boston and Carolina at home. And some good news for Toronto. Joe Walls seems to be inching closer and closer to a return. And he spoke to the media today for the first time.

And I think it's worthwhile that we play his comments because he didn't necessarily address exactly what was going on with him. But clearly, his spirits are pretty high at the moment. All I'm going to say about my time away is that I'm disappointed to have missed time. And I'm very happy to be back. So I'd really like all the focus to be on my job to do here. And I don't want to create any distractions for myself. for the team, I think, you know, there's enough here to

focus on, and all I ask is that you guys respect that, and you know, if down the road I am interested, and think it would be beneficial to talk about, I'll initiate that. All right. I like it. And again, in this world, we live in with TMZ

and the paparazzi following people around. I actually am really happy for Joseph Wall that he's the one who's controlling his own narrative as opposed to how it generally works in this world these days. he can make his own call on his own personal issues and i don't think anyone should have an issue with it and i'm glad that he's doing much better dude i thought the same thing a k

when he left the team i didn't know if he went to like his hometown if he just stayed in toronto and i was thinking to myself somebody's going to know where that guy is and he's not going to be able to have the privacy that he wants but he seems like he got it which is good for him man and as long as he's happy and healthy because i thought there was a health concern where it's like, who knows what's up with this guy. But he seems like he's back with the team, and it seems like he might get one of the games on the weekend, no?

Well, I think he's going to the Marley's. Yeah, he went to the Marley. I read that on the HL or on the NHL website. It says WAL to have an AHL stint before Maple Leaf's return. So I would argue, probably go down and play some games this weekend. Oh, so you can call up the Hill to Beast, because it looks like

they waived Primo. Primo probably get plucked. I would think that Primo get plucked. Maybe even by Carolina. I don't think Carolina wanted to probably lose him in the first place. But at the end of the day, you know, Joseph Wall needs to get to the A, play some games. But it is interesting. Who's going to play that second game?

It might be the Hildebees in back-to-back situation. Well, Primo's last start was not very good. So I think giving the Hildebees a chance makes a lot of sense. And you know what? He is the guy that they are drafting and developing type of thing with the Hildebe. They need to create a pathway for him. to either sink or swim type of thing. Stolars is the guy right now,

Wohl coming back, and to put a bow on that Joseph Wall thing, oh, that you were talking about, people forget that guys have lives outside the game. Like, we get so focused on the product on the ice and that. But I'm glad that he was able to get the privacy and whatever was needed and was afforded to him. Regardless, you know, we forget sometimes, you know,

Like you said, AK TMZ wants to grab stories or, you know, people always whispering, I heard this, heard that. Didn't hear anything, which I was glad. I'm glad that he got the privacy that he needed. And it's great for him to get the ground running. And I'm excited to see what he brings. He was one of my biggest storylines coming into the season this year, is is he going to take that step to be an everyday guy, which he played north of 40 games last year and played real well in stress. So are they going to have that one-two or one-and-one-a tandem, which was one of the best in the league last year?

You've got to get back to that. That's what I think is important for Joseph Wall and for the Leafs organization. Jamie, you mentioned that these guys are human beings in that kind of narrative. No more obvious than yesterday hearing a couple of guys' comments after games. One, being Dobish in Montreal, we can get to them after the break. But, and the other one was Ryan O'Reilly. These are two guys that were both visibly, like, just distraught at themselves and their own performance, where I don't think I've seen that. And all the time I've been around the game and covered the game, it was like, I watched it.

I was like, I can't believe what I'm watching. I've never seen that out of two guys in the same night. Same night, you're right. Ryan O'Reilly is a fierce competitor. He's won a Stanley Cup. He's, you know, one of the greatest humans in, in NHL history. And everybody loves it. His teammates love him, all of that.

And he prepares he's a true pro. I think he just disappointed in his play. I get that. What worried me for Dobish, a young goaltender, showing that type of emotion, this guy has potentially a 15-year career ahead of him. He's, you know, he lost the game November 6th, you know, early in the season. And it's not like he booted the game. You know, it ended up, like, to me, that has to be monitored.

Put it that way. Yeah, it goes back to the old saying you can't control what someone else is thinking. No, I get that. In his head, he was just distraught that it ended that way. Over time, they got a point, but he was beside himself, which I felt awful for him. I'm like, man, you should be on cloud nine right now. You're almost the go-to guy for the haves at this particular moment. And he's played unbelievable.

Yes. That's what kind of was perplexing me. This guy's had an unbelievable start. Montembourg has had a below-average start, so the whispers in Montreal is like, get this guy some more games. He's played very, very well. But to see him, it almost, it hurt my heart watching this kid because I was like he's in tears about losing a point. I mean, I love the competitive nature, but there's, I'll be honest that I, after you and I, oh, we can speak to it as far as playing, there's a lot more adversity ahead of him.

Oh, yeah. You know, that's what I worry about for him. Wait until he loses six in a row. Exactly. Like, there is some adversity. So I think that's something that has to be focused upon in Montreal for him. As bad as it was for Dobish and O'Reilly last night, that's nothing compared to what happened to Team Owen Wilson. And another tough night for the boys, Hayesnboro League.

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It's Aaron Carole and Jeff O'Neill, Jamie McLennan with you until 6 o'clock. Tough night for Owen Wilson. And I've been tracking it. You know, I do my own show here on TSN 1050, but I've been tracking the scores and has not been going well for Team Owen Wilson. But it's a mercy rule. It's not a mercy rule. I'm on that group chat, so I just sit on the outside.

Tell me this. I read a stat. That game stunk last night. Awful game. One of the worst games I've ever seen, yes. Like, I had people saying this isn't even worth watching. It was bad football on both sides, like garbage. But the fact that Owen, I keep wanting Owen Wilson to get to, like, within striking distance.

Because what concerns me is Al's brother. Like, he's so cocky. Do we have Al's brother's most recent tweet that just went up moments ago where he's at the card show or whatever it's called? and we'll bring that up he's feeling he's feeling himself right now he's on cloud nine amongst his people at the card show but yeah we can't take chirps from a guy at a card show with other degenerates wheeling around we don't accept that as chirps like it doesn't affect us we are down 10 it's tough but we don't let that get to us personally no no nor should you let's bring in there there oh man that's uh that's a visual right there

There, Al's brother amongst his people at the car show. All right. Owen Wilson is cooking. Let's bring in one of the great Canadian football players our country has ever produced. Struggling when it comes to the NFL bets. It's Luke Wilson, PSN football analyst, joining us via the phone here. Luke, how we doing? We're living large, boys.

Living large. We've got to turn things around somehow, pal. I don't know. to go major league and get a chicken or something. I don't know what we got to do. We already did the slump buster of punch. Okay, last night it was, I mean, what a flupe, dude. That was the worst game I've ever seen.

Denver puked all over not covering that. Okay. We're down 10, but, Tarts, you got to remember. Oh, yeah? And I just heard. What do I have to remember? You got to remember. Thanksgiving is two weeks away.

We've got opportunities, baby. We just got to shrink this gap. When we get at the end of November, we're going to have the three games on Thursday, and then we go right into the regular weekend. There's a lot of meat on this bone still. We've got to flip the tie, though. It's got to happen here. Parts, I'm going to try to be optimistic,

but I know that if you were my teammate in the National Hockey League, and it was 8-0 going into the third period, and you sat beside me on the bench, I would look at you and say, let's try not to get hurt, we're not winning this game, and we suck tonight. That's fair,

but there's a small caveat here. If I was your teammate in National Hockey League, we'd be playing other national hockey league players. We're playing two bums that are just getting very, very lucky. Now you've got me interested, because that is true. Next week and Winneville,

Pegg, listen, everyone on this panel today is going to be in Winnipeg next week for the Grey Cup. We're all fired up for it. Why doesn't Team Owen Wilson just floor it together, hit some Grey Cup parties, build up the camarader. That could be the real turning point. You heard William Nealander today say the Maple Leafs Halloween party

may have been the turning point for this team winning three in a row. What about, you know, you go to the Argos team party next weekend in Winnipeg? Who knows what could happen? Parts? Never know. Maybe we get after it out in the peg and just do some damage. I just, you know what, I mean, Luke, I just want to jump in here.

What hurts my heart is Al's brother is just so full of himself right now. That's what bothers me. Errigant. Yeah, I agree, noodles. He's a cumbag, though. Would you expect any other type of behavior? No, you would not. You know?

He deserves it right now. All I'm saying is, if we can get this thing down here, parts, which is a big gift because I haven't picked well. We haven't picked well. And they have gotten very lucky. But if we can get this thing down here over the next couple weeks, great cup game in there next week will help us out. If we get to like six-seven-ish range, then Thanksgiving, we've got strike.

We got strike on Thanksgiving into that weekend. And the next thing you know, this might be the biggest collapse we've ever seen. Biggest class you've ever seen. Okay. I hope so. I hope so for the sake of the integrity of the pick. I think that would be welcome for all. Let's talk about what happened last night.

Although I'm with you, it was a horrible game. But the Denver Broncos are now eight and two. They've won seven games in a row. Their defense is amazing. This pass rush is as dominant as we've seen in a long time. Their offense, though, is just awful. Are you a believer in Denver as a team that can actually make some noise in the AFC? Define makes some noise, okay?

Like, are you saying win the Super Bowl? Maybe not win the Super Bowl? That seems like a stretch. Well, why not? If you're going to make some noise, you might as well make some noise. What the hell is the sense of saying, oh, we're just kind of legit. Make some noise parts. Can they make noise?

Yeah. I don't think so. You know, I don't believe. It's funny, I was listening to Richard Sherman. I thought he had a great opinion on it, where he's like the teams living on the razor's edge. Like, what happens on the game where the sacks don't show up? No, is this offense going to carry them to a win somewhere? So, parts, you're basically saying.

You're basically saying. Because they eight wins. Yeah. With those comments, you're basically saying. Yeah. You don't trust Bo Nix is what you're saying. Let's put this way. It's Buffalo versus Denver right now.

Do I think Josh Allen gets sacked six times? No. Do I think Josh Allen gets held to 14 points? Absolutely not. So is Bo Nix going to shred Buffalo? I don't. I mean, certainly after watching last night, you don't feel that way. And I think Bo Nix has had some great moments.

I mentioned it yesterday. Not in yesterday's game, but before the game. He's been really great in the fourth quarter of games. But, you know, they've got two games coming up here in the near future against KC. Like, do I think that Kansas City is going to have a lead in that game? Absolutely. So I'm just not on the, like, super hype train. I think they're a very great defense, like you said.

I think they're going to make the playoffs. I think they have, depending on what that seat is, the possibility that, upset in the playoffs for sure, but the idea that they're going to get through Kansas City, whether it's at home or on the road or Buffalo, I'm not sure I'm like, I'm not buying that yet. Luke Wilson is our guest here, an hour one of overdrive. And I mean, it is hard to imagine Denver with the way that their offense has been operating to this point, would be able to make any real noise in the AFC. But a couple of crucial games this week, Baltimore in action. that's a team that is essentially a must-win scenario,

considering where they are, how many games Lamar Jackson has missed. Is that a team still to this point that you view as a real contender in the AFC, the Ravens? A real contender for the Super Bowl, I think that with Lamar and Derek Henry, you know, they can beat anyone, but I do think they're still going to struggle

to make the playoffs. I think it's a possibility. You know, you look at last week, Pittsburgh, obviously, kind of turn their fortunes around, big win. But beyond that, as far as that last wildcard spot, this defense can't continue to mess up. Now, they've played a lot better, a lot better last few weeks. And you look at some of the big numbers they gave up, they were against great teams and great quarterbacks, but still, that being said, like, there's almost no room or margin for error

whatsoever, and the big one is going to be playing the Steelers, because it seems like every year Mike Tomlin finds a way to at least split that, you know, home-and-home division rivalry, and I think they're going to have to sweet the Steelers this year. So I'm not sure I'm buying them as a contender yet, and they've got kind of a lot to prove to me. So, Luke, it's semi-final Saturday and the CFL tomorrow, Montreal, Hamilton, BC, Saskatchewan. Who is playing in the Grey Cup next week, in your opinion? I think it's probably, in my opinion, I would go Saskatchewan versus Montreal,

but I don't feel great about that. I think both semis will be very, very close. Montreal, you know, obviously Davis-Alexander has yet to lose a game. As a starter, I should say. Oh, my guy, Bolte Levi Mitchell, though, parts. He's my man. Yeah, he is the guy. And Kenny Lawler is my guy.

I worry about that defense. You know, like that one, I think if Hamilton wants to win, I think they're going to have to score 40 points and they can do it. But again, you talk margin of error here. It's going to be very tough on Bow and Kenny to continue to score pretty much every drive. On the flip side, I just think there's some magical about Saskatchewan this year. I know a lot of people like BC to win the whole thing, but I think it's going to be very, very cold in Saskatchewan.

kind of breeds toughness, that team with Coach Mace at the helm, I think it's pretty gritty, and I think they'll find a way to get it done. You guys know the first time I met Luke Wilson was at the Grey Cup in Vancouver in 2014. I got a text from a random number that just said, I'm outside, and I figured it was Luke, who was on the Seahawks at the time. And for whatever reason, I was producing Dave Nailor's radio show. I walk outside BC Place a couple of hours before the game, and there's Luke Wilson just standing there at the entrance, and I brought him in.

Was that the last time you were at the Great Cup, Luke? That was the last time. We played on a Thursday that year. It really linked up nicely because I was like, man, we played our Thursday game in Seattle. I always head to Vancouver anyways, and the Great Cup is right there. So it was kind of a fun experience. That ended up being a pretty wild game, too. So you went from the Roxy right to the BC place before or after or both of the game.

we did the Peter tour I know you guys know I think it was West Oak to Pierre's lounge over to 12 West with the stop and the rocks in the way so that was that's what we called it

that was a good I think we might have done that both night that's a beautiful thing all right so let's get to the picks here and Hayes and Bro leads by 10 over Owen Wilson and Al's brother and Brian Hayes they have two picks there on Tampa

and the Patriots, the Chargers and the Steelers, and Al's brother is sent in a video because he's too preoccupied by the card show to actually make an appearance. Why don't we play the video, Joe, from the bridge? What's up, boys? Last night was a swap, but the Raiders pulled it out and put us into double digits, plus 10,

and moving along as we go further into week, number 10. We got a couple games that we've got to pick here for Team Hazenboro. First game I'm looking at, Patriots, at bucks. Bucks laying two and a half, but I got to tell you what, there's a buzz in the air here at the Sport Current Expo around Drake May. His cards are going for astronomical prices, and why is it? Because he's an MVP candidate, and he's going to go into Tampa Bay, and he's going to absolutely punish Baker Mayfield, cover the number, maybe win the game. We're going to go ahead and take the points with the road dogs. As for the second game,

complete opposite. I like the home favorites in that one. Two and a half points. The Chargers. I think the Steelers, a bit of a fraudulent win last week. They got six takeaways from the Colts. Herbert should be able to protect the football a little bit better, making more of a closer game here. But I expect for the Chargers, a really good team. Top 10 defense, top 10 offense, surrounding into form. I expect for them to go ahead and win by a field goal or more. So we're going to lay the points with the Chargers and take the points with the pets. Great audio. Thanks a lot for sending that in-house, brother. That was really good. The disrespect of the two guys walking by at the end is something else.

Unbelievable stuff. Hey, let's find the noisiest place I could record. It's Stanley 20 feet away from the camera and send that video in. He was at a bus terminal. That's why. I don't know what the hell that was. He's on the Pats and the Chargers. Am I right there if I can understand?

All right, Timo and Wilson, you guys have the Colts. The line is six and a half against the Falcons. Where are you at? Parts. Hips. I'm not going to lie. We're in good shape. I'm very surprised by those picks right now on their pass.

We're on our guy Bakie, and we got Aaron Rogers later. I don't mind that at all. First pick parts, I got a role with Indiana Jones. Listen, I know six and a half is a big number, but look how bad Atlanta has played this year, and you just get Sauce Gardner. You can't tell me a turnover's not coming, and I think last week was a fluke for Indiana Jones.

There's no T.J. Watt getting after him this week. I really think that Indianapolis writes a shit, and gets this thing done. Okay, then you have the Colts. You have the Colts, and now your other pick is the Rams four and a half-point favorites against the Niners, Luke.

I already know where this one's going. Parks, time out withers. So I have a confession. I have a confession, all right? Yes. I got a text from Pudge. I got a text from Pudge. Oh, no.

Okay, time out, time out. You know that I'm going, I'm going with the Rams. That's right. Pudge said to me, I'm telling you, take the 49ers. And I'm like, there's no world where I'm taking the 49ers. Where is this coming from?

What information do you have? And Pudge's line is, I've got a couple pro gamblers that I follow who are on the 49ers. No, I want to go against Pudge after what he did to me, and I like Matthew Stamford. I like that. Okay. I'm in love

Is the difference is going to be? Yes. Go ahead. Tell me the difference. Harrison Mevis, aka the thicker kicker, that's taken over for Cardi. Okay, that's the Rams, baby.

Look the thicker kicker up, boys. That's going to cover our spread this weekend. That man. All right. So we're lying on Pudge and the thicker kicker for to cover the spread. No, not Pudge. Not Pudge. I guess anti-Priott's, what are we talking about?

Anti-pudge, yes. Parts, I almost said pudge. You know that this weekend, like if we don't turn this thing around. You guys don't even know how we continue. Like, we have to figure some. We have to concede or start from scratch or pay them out or get some kind of blue light special. I don't know what we got to do next week.

Listen, I totally agree, and you never know where these things land, but let me just paint a small picture for you here. We're riding with Indiana Jones, who up until last week, was considered an MVP, and I think still is in the conversation. Then we're going to have Bakie, Baker Mayfield, another guy in the MVP conversation. Then we're going to have Matthew Stafford. They were going to have Aaron Rogers. Like, that's a pretty good four game slate for us, parts.

If we can't squeeze three wins out of this and close this gap to eight with our pick on Monday night, I believe, you know, what else are we doing here? We're in good shape. Let's get it done. Let's chip away at this thing. All right. You're the captain. I like it.

I think we're in trouble, but we can always get ourselves out of it because you set it off the top. We're not playing against other athletes. We just saw what we're playing against. A guy around Bums at a card show. We're playing against Bums. Art just do. Luke, we'll see you in Winnipeg. Make sure to check out Film Never Lies on TSN's YouTube channel.

Thank you for doing this. Appreciate it, guys. All right. There's Luke Wilson, one half of Owen Wilson. Seems to be in good spirits. Although, if you guys were down 30, Luke would still be like, you know, deficits like this have been overcome before. It's an uphill climb. It's an uphill climb.

It's an uphill climb. We need something to happen, man. You do. You do. Yeah, you need a big weekend. That's all you need, and then you get on a roll. And, you know what, it was a year ago that Elle's brother was in the minors. Keep that in mind. Hays sent him to the miners, put him on waivers.

Yeah, he did for two weeks. Remember it was like two weeks that he was not allowed to take picks? They said this was hiding him from the media. They said he was on a cruise or something. He was just at home or at these card shows, not allowed to weigh in. That's what happened Al's brother a year ago. I think you might be right. You might be right.

Mike Johnson, in about 15 minutes, I will tee up the weekend that will be for the Toronto Maple Leafs with back-to-back game Saturday and Sunday. Sheldon Keefe, the coach of the Devils, coming up at 5.30. Mike Johnson, in about 15 minutes as we continue here in the first hour of overdrive on TSN4, TSN1050, up on TSN's YouTube channel. The New York Rangers back in action tonight, did you guys see Artemmy Panarin, went full Messier in an attempt to hear what ails him. The guy has no points in six games, so he decided to go full Messier.

He's got to get gone. He's looking for a new contract, too, in the offseason. exactly the most perfect time for him to go into the tank when it comes to his production. But when you guys were playing it, I'm telling you that guy could have 30 points and someone's going to give him a substantial contract. I'm telling it. I think you're right. That's so desperate the league is. If he ended up with 30 points, someone will give him a nice contract for him to finish out

his career. It's got to be weighing on him too, right? You would think you look at all the free agents that are coming off the board seemingly by the day. Panarin's probably the number one guy come July 1st. It's got $100 million in the bank. I don't think anything's really weighing on him too much. Yeah, I think it's more the pride thing because he's not played well.

And even watching him, like he looks, he's always been a perimeter player. Now, he's 34 years old. That's the one thing I checked today. Oh, like, Stamco's and Panarin have had slow starts. They're 34 and 35 years old. Like, the game is younger, it's quicker, all of that. They look like they're on the outside looking in. They've got to get going.

it's with all these guys if you're like the blue chip guy that's at you know under 18 camps and world junior summer camps and then world juniors and then this and then that and then all-star games olympics and it's just non-style sooner or later the wheels come off and it's just the end of the line man i'm not saying that's the case for stamcos or panarin but when those guys get run into the ground they put these guys buy hockey all year round out they don't take a break and it's great they're in better shape they're better athletes and they're ever have been. But when it ends, it ends, man.

It does. The wheels come off and it's game over, but it might not be the case. But when it does happen to these guys, it's a tough one. Yeah, and that's why I see Crosby and Ovechkin continue to do what they're both doing. It just defies any and all logic. Those guys are horses. And again, Panarin could get hot. Maybe it happens tonight.

But it's been a tough start. Going full messier in an attempt to resurrect your season. It's a lot of desperation there clearly for Panarin. New York. Hour 2 is coming up. Mike Johnson, Sheldon Keefe, here on this Friday afternoon. You've been listening to Overdrive, powered by Fandool. FanDuel, bringing you everything from the opening line to the final score. The biggest songs in the world. You've heard them countless times. Now, learn the details of how they came to be. Join Ruby Car for Encore, the stories.

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