OverDrive - OverDrive - September 17, 2025 - Hour 1 - Brad Treliving

Episode Date: September 17, 2025

Join Bryan Hayes, Jeff O'Neill and Jamie McLennan for Hour 1 on OverDrive! The guys discuss the Maple Leafs' training camp kicking off, the future without Mitch Marner on the team and the impact on Auston Matthews and the Blue Jays' fan interference home run against the Rays. Toronto Maple Leafs general manager Brad Treliving joins to discuss the team's season kicking off, Auston Matthews leading the team and the market in the league.

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Jamie Noodles, McClennett. What's going on? What's going on? How we feel this afternoon? Well, the old Hoffman tried to do his thing last night, didn't he? He got it done? He was trying. Man, he did, he got it done.

He got it done. It was a bit shaky. What's up with the velo going down? Like, does he have an arm problem? Remember when Josh Donaldson had, like, dead arm first day of season or something? Right. Well, he's pitched a lot.

Who was the skip then that said he's had Gibby? It was Gibby. Yeah, he couldn't throw the ball from third to first. He's like, yeah, he's got dead arm. You're stuck on that one for a night, way. Second game of the year, he was like, yeah, he's got dead arm. He'd be fine. Right.

Everyone was like, what the hell? He couldn't get it over to first. Yeah, and it was very nonchalant. Like, Gibbons really did not seem to be losing any sleep over his third baseman, being incapable of throwing the ball across the field. But Hoffman's pitched a lot. He's pitched a lot. And, like, what was scarier was after the game, Schneider said that was it.

They had no one else available in the bullpen. And I don't know if he was joking or not, but he literally said, like, Heinemen would be coming in to close the game out if they didn't find him. find a way to get that done because Dominguez got the job done. Hoffman came in and Hoffman battled and to his credit, you know, you guys always say, no one feels 100%. It's September. You know, they've been playing a long time. No athlete, once you get past day one of camp, no one feels 100%. And we can't sit here and criticize a win. Now you're just, now you're just nitpicking, but it was, it got a little hairy, I will say, like they got up three and

then they kept giving it back, giving it back. And I'm like, oh my God, like this. Eventually, you know, eventually where it's like, okay, you don't want that, you don't want to play with that fire in the playoffs. Like, I don't want to see that in the playoffs where it's like, hey, well, the spotted team, and then now we're going to play comeback. It's too hard on the ticker. Put it that way. It is, but I think you have to be realistic that that's, like, sports is unsettling in the playoffs. You know, like, I'm sorry, guys. No, it's just not going to be a breeze.

Yeah, you're right. You know, that's not the way it works. Like there's going to be moments where they Lots of nerves, tension, you blow a lead. Look at how fired up they were a couple of years ago and they got smoked 8 to 1. Right. Seattle, I think.

Yeah, Seattle. Seattle, they were up 8.1. They ended up losing. Remember 9-8 or 10-8. Remember, they blew that game. Yeah, sorry, yeah. They were up 8 1 and they lose the game. Yeah.

Listen, that's baseball. This bullpen is, nothing is going to change over the next two weeks. It is going to make anyone feel great. about Hoffman, Dominguez, Varlane, you know, Little was out there doing his thing, you know, diving balls into the dirt again last night. And that's the nature of their bullpen right now. It is not overly solidified or, you know, confidence-inducing, but it's getting the job done.

And come playoff time, again, they're going, they're getting a buy here. Like, they have won six games in a row. Like, they have not slowed down. They are rolling right now. out of the Blue Jays. The Yankees are going the other way. The Yankees are gone. Like the Jays, they're in.

They're winning the American League East, and they're going to have a buy-out-of-the- Wild Card, which is amazing when you consider where we were this time last year. Yeah. But it's going to be a roller coaster, man. Like, buckle up. It's going to be a roller coaster. And the Hoffman play-up experience is going to be wild,

and the Dominguez experience is going to be wild. Is that who you're looking forward to the most in the playoffs? The Hoffman, just to see what. unpredictability he could bring four three jays game one al ds don't pack here he comes wow what do you got what do you got i'm watching that charlie sheen documentary and all i can see all i think of hopman is like the wild thing he comes walking ricky vaughan like have at it i mean you know what he's got a bunch of saves he's done a good job for the most part but he doesn't instill a lot of confidence he had a stretch there where we were you know a little bit concerned put

it that way every night he was just he got rung up but with five six games in a row it felt like he got rung up for a dingers like in the numbers gives up a lot of home runs prone to giving up the home run right not the greatest characteristic if you're a bullpen arm a crazy characteristic for a closer crazy for a closer i don't remember rickie vaughan rickie vaughan is the only guy that i can remember with any problems like that right if you hit it you could name it that was a direct quote from Ricky Vaughn. But I don't remember Hankie or Dwayne Ward giving up too many home runs.

I'm sure they did. I know they did, but I don't remember a lot of them 30 years ago. But this Jay's team, man, everything's coming up Blue Jays. Everything's coming up Blue Jays right now. And it is a fun time of year. You've got the Leafs were at camp today

and everyone's happy and everyone's reported and everyone's healthy. And, you know, they're still getting the, I think the last couple Mitch Marner questions. Like this is probably the last day until they play them again got to be the last day man you can't ask about Mitch no I don't know I mean I've got one for you I got one's it coming up three games in

or their power play struggles do you miss Mitch you know he does the entries he does the half wall like I don't know if they're going to go to that I mean guys okay I'm just calling it right now I'm calling it right now if their power play is not you know I mean they were top of the league last year or close to it if their power play struggles you don't think the three of us have been and going okay that's different noodles no no no that's a different thing but we're going to be critiquing who's

out there not making it work we're not going to say oh Mitch isn't out there no you're right but I still believe the effect of just still trying to you know settle in with new personnel out there there's going to be now it might be just Morgan Riley which is he's run the power play before but maybe they go

five men and it's Machelli maybe it's somebody else that that is a good distributor but that that's you asked me okay it's done i'm saying i'm predicting if now it's a giant if they could you know continue to roll and be a really good power play like they have been but that's the next time i think his name comes up if there is a struggle okay but again that's different us i'm not saying we won't talk about it we will i'm saying the questions to the players that's what i'm saying because like one of these two things is going to end first Marner coming up in Toronto circles with the players and the coach and the GM and McDavid's contract in Edmonton.

Like at some point, you're just, you're going to have to move past it. It's easier to move past Marner because Marner's gone. You know, the McDavid contract until it gets signed, it's still going to hang out there. I mean, that's just a reality. And it's more likely to pop up at different times throughout the season, especially when he goes to different markets. But, you know, the Marner thing, we're not going to stop talking about it, you know. Like, this is a big topic of discussion. Who's going to play right wing?

The reality is they don't have one. Like, Michelli and Domey are not first-line players in the NHL. They're not. Like, could they have a career year and everything works for them? That would be great. That's what they're hoping for. It sucks for Max. He's hurt.

They want to camp. He's got a lower body injury. He's not going to be on the ice. So that's not a great way to start for him because it's a big opportunity. It's not that he doesn't have talent or have the ability to give you spot duty, but they don't have. Like Nealander is. Nealander is clearly a first-line right-winger in the league,

but he's going to likely stay away from Matthews. And Michelli, Domi, Bobby McMahon, these guys are not first-line players in the NHL. So they got to, you know, and the least know that. They're trying to figure it out. Right? Like these guys are going to get opportunities. Someone's got to play with Matthews and Nyes.

But the other thing you guys have in factored in Marner coming up is what if he lights it up in vague? I guess in the first couple of games. Like, don't you think his name will pop up a little bit, too? Yeah? Well, I think you're seeing what your boy's doing out there, your old friend. I guess you're right. That could be a question gets posed.

He has a five-point night, his first game or something. Well, it would be the reverse. It would be the reverse. You know how, like, Austin Matthews will get four goals, and they'll ask, like, Utah Carolina playing? You see Matthews score four goals? Do you think that the Leafs would get, hey, do you see what Marner did the other night? Like, they might, but I don't, you know,

know i don't think it's going to be i agree with you i don't think it's going to be in this market matthews could get four goals in toronto and a question could be this were those assists the same way marner passed it to you like that's what i don't think i i mean maybe early on everything's just going to be a little bit different you even heard chiefs talk about it hey we're not don't refer to us as the core four anymore they're happy about that yeah that it's a positive the core fork is no longer a thing so brian you're saying context-wise, like, his name probably should be done until further notice type of thing. Well, I mean, today, it's a natural topic of discussion.

It's, you know, he was a massive part of the organization for a decade. Right. And he left. And it's a big conversation. Who's going to play with Matthews? Who's going to play with Nyes? How do you fill out the power play? You know, Craig Barubei, this is big for you.

You've got to find 20 minutes ice that you were just, you know, in your sleep, hand-in-marner. Sometimes you'd play him 23. 24 minutes a night. Oh, yeah. It changes the dynamic of the team. It's a totally natural question to ask today. I'm just saying now that you're on the ice, it's like, all right, it's over now, I think. You can tell something else pops up, but I'm not suggesting that something won't pop up.

Yeah, it's not a daily thing. I don't think so. I don't think so. I mean, again, I think the story, there's a couple things that came out of the pressers today. And Brad Tray Living will join us in about 15 minutes. but Austin Matthews I was having to chat with a guy about it today because he brought naturally the Marner thing

brought it wow what about with Marner gone Matthews in my opinion is one of the five six seven best players in the game if one player leaving I don't care who it is makes him the 25th best player in the game that's on him not on the guy who left like I don't I don't care

who he's playing with Austin Matthews better still be worth 13.5 million per. And he better be... Can't two things be true at the same time where... I'm just saying, I'm not letting him off the hook. Well, Barner's not here, so 28 goals is here. No, no. You've still got to be the best player on the team.

I don't care of Mitch is there or not. I know. It's just looking at Matthew's production. He's so good at scoring goals. But Mitch was such a big part of the setups as well. like they had magic out there like i i think two things could be true at once hayes okay so how does he compensate for that though like if you're matthews oh listen when you're making thirteen sheets like there's no somebody else has got to get him the puck and when he gets it

he converts those shots like you know there were how many times last or did we see him just miss a little bit a little bit off here a little like he was still getting a lot of looks Regardless, Mitch on his line, not on his line. If he gets looks, it's up to him to execute those looks. So I agree, Brian. Like, regardless of the top player, yes, you don't get the perfect pass on the back door. You don't get some real creative looks for Mitch Marner. But you're still going to get looks, and it's up to him to convert those looks.

So I agree. I don't think if you think he's, let's just say for rounding out, if you think he's top 10, or if you know he's 10, he doesn't become. come 30 without Mitch Marner. What he should do is stay at 10 or climb higher or do whatever because top players can play with anybody. They're the

ones that they're the reasons why. As Leon Drysettle, they put a bunch of different line mates with him, doesn't matter. Exactly. Still a great player. Perfect example. Drysettle last year at times was playing with guys. Pod Colson. Yeah. Playing with the guys who had no right to be on a line with Leon

Drysettle. And he didn't sniff. He didn't sit there and say, well, what do you want out of me. He's like, all right, let's go. There's a perfect example right there. Exactly. And that should be, that is my expectation for him. Does that mean he's got to score 69 goals? No. Does that mean he's got to win a hearts? No, I'm not, that's not what I'm saying.

Dominant, that's it. He's got dominant. Anything short of one of the best players in the game with anyone playing. Now, yes, the numbers, you know, there are going to be times where there might be some frustration and you guys can speak to it. Oh, you can. There is a difference when you're playing with a really, truly high caliber player and a guy who's not at that level. Like there's going to be certain times where I'm sure he will be frustrated in some ways. But he's so good if he's healthy and he said today, feels great, feels good, let's get

rocking. He's 28 years old as of today. It's his birthday. Today he's 28. He's 28. He's 6-3-220 in his prime. I'm expecting a massive season and I don't see why anyone else would expect anything less with or without Mitch Marner.

he's too good he has to prove it he has to go out and do it and i think he will like i'm not being negative with this conversation i think he will i'm bracing for matthews to have a great great season you could also you know free him up a little bit in what i mean by that is you know maybe there's a thought process with craig barubi to go okay we brought in wa as a shutdown centerman you know maybe he can take some defensive zone draws and we can find some more offensive looks for Austin. He doesn't have to chew up some of the ice time in all situations. You know, when you look at ice time, you know, we've talked about.

Mitch Marner had a bunch of ice time, but some of it would be on the penalty kill. They'd throw Austin out. If you want to find him in 20 minutes, maybe it's a little bit different type of 20 minutes for Austin, where, you know, obviously offensive zone draws, but you don't have to have them out there all the time in the defensive zone because he's good defensively. If you've got other players that you trust and chief trust, maybe you take that draw away from him, and that's a little bit nice time you can add on the offensive look, and he gets a little bit more offensive opportunities. That might have to it.

I mean, last year again, he started killing penalties. He never did that before. I don't see Barubei taking him off that. I mean, I would think he'll still kill penalties. And, you know, again, your defensive play, it's got to be high end because he's capable of doing it. And Nicholas Waugh, I think, brings a little bit, but he's not Austin Matthews. You know, he's not Bob Ganey or something. What I'm saying is that he's a good one.

But he's a trusted defensive guy. So my point being is if you feel like, hey, we need a draw in our own zone, he's a guy that could probably take that and you don't have Austin defending for 15 to 20 minutes or 20 seconds and getting off. That's my point. There just becomes a layer of depth where you don't have to put him in every situation offensively and defensively. It's more you can lean offensively with him. Yeah. That was my point.

You need some guys with excitement to play with Matthews, like those goons out in the outfield last night, like that we're getting... Why are you talking about the fans that basically allowed Brandon Lada to get a home run? I don't know what was going on. And the explanation and the, like, yeah, it was a home run, but he caught it, but it was going to be a home run anyway. I've never seen anything like that.

It was such a mailing from the Ups. It was such a minor league. The technology's not working. Because Lucas is catching this ball, man. like I have there is no doubt in my mind he's going up and catching it or getting at least a glove on it from the still shots and I think Schneider was like are you insane like this is how much everything's breaking the Blue Jays way that something like that goes against them and then Lucas steps up in the next inning hits a home run and he's like we're good we'll find a way to win this but how that was not fan interference that was how I swear they had Scrabble face last night absolutely beyond me what was the famous one you Yankee Stadium against Baltimore. Well, is that the one where the guy was ripping it out of his glove? It was something in a playoff game where a Yankee fan kind of, yeah, he might have ripped

it out of a guy from Baltimore's glove. He was trying to do that. That was last year where he was trying to do it. No, I'm talking many moons ago, Jeter era, like in World Series, or like, not World Series, but it was a long time ago. Okay, I don't remember that one. There was the one where the Jay's played Kansas City and remember the kid with the beard and a glasses who reached over and caught it.

I think it was Bautista playing him right. That was in 15 in the ALCS. That was a big one because it was the same thing. It looked like you reached over and they called it a good home run. I don't know. Maybe that's the rule in baseball or that's the thinking. Like tie goes to offense and just give it to them. JP just got in my ear and said, it wasn't Bartman.

It was Yankee Stadium. I thought it was a big play Yankees Orioles playoffs, but I don't remember. It might have been a ripping out of the glove situation. It was big, though. It was a big play. And the ump was like homerun, and the guy went nuts from Baltimore. You would think with all of this technology, you know, and stuff, that they'd just be able to go, that was going out. That's like nowadays the trajectory, bat speed, you know, exit speed, all of that, easily through Libero,

they could have been like, that's going out, that's over the wall, that's a home run. Yeah, there's the play there, Hayes. Who is that? I can't even see what... That was Jeter, man. Look at Jeter. Yeah, but who's out in the field? I don't know.

I can't tell. I can't tell based on my technology and stuff on my end. But that did look like blatant fan interference. He's going crazy. Wow. Now he's looking at the hole out there. Imagine having that happen in the Ump in the playoffs and the Ump's like, nah, home run. Nothing to see here.

Pointing it out. And of course it's the Yankees, the Yankee Stadium, the conspiracy theories are out like no chance they're letting baltimore beat this team i'm drawing a blank on the umph that called that screwed up the perfect game what was choice yeah jim joyce or jimmy joyce oh this one is big oh i remember this yeah it was a massive play he's not even jumping that's that's the tell like the orio outfielders it francisco he's not even jumping for it he knows it's going to drop into his glove yeah and the ums like now was six and A-L-C-S.

Oh, yeah. That's fine. We'll take that. The M's like, no, we're good, man. I have reservations downtown. We'll be leaving soon. All right. We've got Jays and Ray's back in action tonight, so we'll tee that up.

We'll get to our best bets a little bit later this afternoon. Mike Johnson on the show today. Again, camp's opening up league-wide. Connor McDavid, still doing interviews about his contract and what's going to happen in the future. And Brad Trie Living will join us on day one of the leaves camp. What's he make of Matthews? What happens with that right-wing spot? What did he say to Morgan Riley that, by all accounts,

has been a message well-received because Riley's lost weight. He looks good. He's ready to play. The goaltending tandem, what happens with these two into the future? A lot to get into with the GM of the Leaf. So we'll do that this hour. Overdrive continues. TSN 1050 and on TSN4.

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Gosman back on the mound, whenever he pitches, goes very well. It goes very, very well for the Blue Jays, who are looking for seven straight. You've got so much positivity around this team, it's incredible. You know, the Traja Savage story was great a couple of nights ago, and where he factors in in the future, the injury update sounds pretty positive on Bichette. I think Varshot's going to return soon. Wasn't it crazy? Like, we just watched that highlight from 96 Yankees, Orioles.

When Gosman went nine innings, like the big deal that was made out of it. Back in the day, it was like a quality starter, Clemens, Halliday. It was regular occurrence. They were talking it up, like, man, he went nine, and it was like, yeah. I think everybody's happy with like five and a third now. It's a great job. Great job today. Definitely.

Five is kind of standard. That's where you Savage gave. It was like, thank you. We'll get you out. Last night, Otani had five no-hit innings and hit his 50 at home run of the season, which is incredible. But that's kind of the limit. Like five no-hit innings and got to get them out. And then the bullpen goes in.

It just gets blown up. Yeah, but you said Josh Allen is the guy to watch. I mean, Otani, look at that guy. No hit and a home run. I'm standing by that. Wait till tomorrow night when Josh Allen, you know what he's going to do to the Miami Dolphins tomorrow. Playing a junk team tomorrow.

It spreads 11 and a half. I'm surprised it's that low. Yeah, I'm surprised it's not 14, 14 and a half. I'm tipping our pick. You have a pretty good idea who we're going to be leaning into next time we're on the clock tomorrow. But that's week three of the NFL. Again, the Jay's raised tonight.

We've got the CFL continuing. Argo's alouettes on Friday. We're going to be down there. Can't wait for that. And the least are back in town. And as of tomorrow, the Leafs are going to be back on the ice. And they were all down there doing their physicals today. This is the end of the era.

No more physicals, I think, after today. Here's the GM of the least, Brad Trilivik. Brad, are you going to miss the physical era of the National Hockey League? You know, I said to the guys, I think, well, for the most part, listen, nowadays, it was different, no and noodles days where you came in and you had to scum, skate the rust off. They're all in pretty good shape, but I said in the other day, I'm like, I think you guys are playing this all wrong.

The coaches will think you haven't done anything, and they're just going to rinse you for during camp. Why not just get on, settle the bike a little bit, make it look good, and everybody will think you're in shape. So we'll see. We'll see, but it's a new game. It's a new game now. How curious are you guys

going to be when everybody wheels into camp? Like, are you going to be just eyeballs looking around everywhere to see where everybody's at, tree? It's going to be a different different ballgame. Yeah, yeah, we talked about that.

We'll worry about that next year, but I think for the most part, the way the guys come in right now, they don't take a lot of days off, but we'll worry about the next little road ahead here and then get our heads wrapped around us here next year.

With Brad Tray Living, the Leafs Back in Action are on the ice as of tomorrow. And, you know, we're all always tracking the size of different guys. Not that we know, not that it really matters, you know, how much weight someone's gained or how much weight someone's lost. But I guess Morgan Riley has lost, you know, six pounds year over year. And you know, you said today, and I believe he was indicating that the two of you had a pretty candid conversation after last year. And he's taken that conversation to heart, and he had a great offseason.

And I'm curious, you know, what the expectations are, how are the goalposts moving for Morgan Riley in terms of what you need out of them this year compared to maybe what you got out of them last year? Yeah, I think, I mean, for the most part, Brian, a lot of those things I leave just behind closed doors, right? The conversation you have with the players, you talk to your guys all the time, you know, what I'd say about Morgan is, you know, what do we need out of Morgan? We need the best version of Morgan and what he's capable of.

What I would ask to him is not anything that he's not capable of. And, you know, to get him back to, and I think we saw flashes of it, and I would say there was a little bit of a, you know, there's a little bit of him getting adjusted to a little bit new style of play. last season and I thought down the stretch in the playoffs

in the second half was better for him than it was maybe in the first half but you know we just talked a lot about getting you know getting Morgan back to what he's capable of doing not asking him to be anybody that he's not

to me that always starts in the summer in your preparation it's in your mindset and and you know the great thing there is this this wasn't a one-sided conversation Morgan was fully on board and he knows what he's capable of doing

he's the first one to tell you there's more there than what maybe we've seen last year and this is a really really good player so you know this time of the year you look around the league and it's always filled with today's always filled with you know the great line of best shape of his life and this guy's gained 20 pounds

And this guy's lost 20 pounds, but I can honestly say, you know, around the facility all summer. And there wasn't too many days that Morgan wasn't the first guy in there and usually the last guy to leave. So he's put the work in and, you know, there's a real focus, a real seriousness, a real seriousness to him. So I'm looking forward to seeing, I'm really looking forward to seeing what he's going to bring. So, Trey, you've got a big roster. there are guys that are sorted out as far as as NHL players, but do you feel like there is some internal battles here at

camp, and is it tough to, you know, monitor them with such a shortened training camp and then right into preseason games? Yeah, we do. I think everybody likes to say there's competition, and we all know for the most part there's a pretty good idea. We can

all pencil in, you know, the guys for the most part, they're going to be on the team. But I can honestly say there's, you know, if you look at it, especially up front I would I would say that it holds true on the blue line too that you know there's more there's more NHL bodies than there is seats and you know that's not including some young guys that I think are you know are going to push right they're at that stage now where you know they're not 18 years old and and and and not mature they're ready to you know push for jobs here

So we've got, we've got, we've got more bodies than there is jobs. So there's a, there's going to be, there's going to be competition, there's going to be competition to get on the team. And then there's always internal competition, right, of finding your role, you know, and, and to me, training camp's always about, you know, about, about three things in terms of, and one of those is finding a role, solidifying a role. And so I think you're going to see that internal competition of who's going to pick up some power play time,

who's going to play with who, where are you going to be slotted in the lineup? What role are you going to fulfill to help us win? And so I'm intrigued about that, and we've got, I guess, just under three weeks to figure it out. Tree, we were talking about Matthews off the top, who he's going to play with and just his basic, you know, expectation this year. We know, obviously, Marner's not going to be there, but he should be healthy and raring to go and be dominant regardless of who's on his line. I would agree with you.

He looks really, really good. You know, we all know he was fighting through some stuff last year. Never, you know, never bitched about it, just dug in and played. and you know he's an elite player and so yeah it's always great to have as much talent around you but elite players you know they drag others up with them and i think that there's you know i think that he you know just spent a lot of time with him over the last he's been here for you know almost a month now um there's a there's a seriousness to him too and uh um i think he like you know he looks great physically um i think he's in the in in a great spot mentally

um and he's determined to go out there some people say okay he had a down year um i'd like you know there'd be a lot of guys that pray to have a down year like like he had um and it's not just the goals and the points and everything else you know he drives our team he drives it defensively um he drives it from preparation Um, and I think he's looking, he's looking forward to, to the challenge. And listen, we all know, yeah, there's, you know, he's got a different right winger there. Who that's going to be right now. You know, that's what camp is for here right now is to try to, you know, we're a collection

of players. I don't care what happened the year before I don't, to me, I don't really believe, um, momentum carries over how many guys you've got back, how many new guys. You're a collection of players right now that you're, you're starting the process of building the team. So, you know, he's the tip of the sphere for us, and I expect him to be driving the group regardless of what changes have been made. We have Brad Trayliving. It is somewhat unique, though, to be in pursuit of a first-line-right winger as camp opens up. Like, we talk a lot about battles, and it's who's the sixth or seventh

defenseman, who could be the 13th forward. This is, you know, this is on the marquee. It's the top line with your captain here. Is that unsettling for you, Brad? You know, that it's such a prominent role, and you guys are going in here still trying to figure out who it's going to be. Well, you know, at the end of the day, somebody's going to pick up the minutes right now.

I said today, we met with the media today, and sure, we'd love to be able to go, we'd love to go, you know, go plop somebody in there right now. That's, you know, we've been looking. Those players aren't readily available. you saw that there wasn't a ton of there wasn't really a ton of action throughout the summer so we'll continue

you know the player's jobs right now is to go out and earn their opportunity there manager's job is no different than every year how do you go find you know people to make your group better so we'll continue to do that and I know we all get focused on first line second line third line to me there's just

fits sometimes like listen we we've had a lot of Mitch was a great player is a great player was a great player for us you're not going to just go replace that player with one player

so how do we find you know whether it be internally whether it be externally somebody that can fit there you know you look throughout the league there's a lot of guys that you would say okay is this guy a first line player but the fit is there

the chemistry is there they do they have a job description that helps, you know, one or two of the other players on the line accomplish what needs to be accomplished. So certainly that is an area that is going to play out through camp and we'll continue to look at ways that we can help ourselves. But for the players, you know, to me, there's a great opportunity there. And I know there's guys that are itching to try to get an opportunity there.

And we'll see where chemistry is. You don't know. like Chief and I talked five times a day all summer and we've got lots of great plans until you get out of the ice and see where the fit is. Sometimes it's what you thought of, sometimes it's not. So that's why you get into camp and play the games and see where all the pieces fit together.

Trey, how do you know when to pull the trigger making a phone call? Every team in the league thinks they're great right now, but the reality is that they're all not going to be. And quickly, teams find out that they're not that. good how do you monitor that you know if you're looking for a guy to place that call yeah yeah it's a good it's a good question oh i think you the fact that there wasn't a lot of movement doesn't necessarily mean there wasn't a lot of dialogue so you have a pretty good idea you know you have a

pretty good idea where we're what people may be looking to do um but you're right it was the interesting part of this summer was you know you had you had a lot of people you know i think broke the league. Everybody was, regardless of where you are, everybody was trying to take a step, you know, regardless of necessarily where you were in the development of your team, whether you're looked at as a team that's, you know, in the contender status of trying to push through that to that end, whether you're a developing team, everybody was, there wasn't a lot of people that were looking to, you know, some of it's financially driven. There wasn't, there wasn't cap pressure in a lot of places where somebody had to throw a body or two overboard. you know, everybody, whether you were a developing team or rebuilding team, a team that's a mature team, everybody was trying to take a step and so you monitor it, you know, you watch, what's all you do, you watch your team, you watch around the league,

you stay as active as you can to make sure you've got your finger on what's going on around the league and continue to monitor if there's opportunities out there that you can help you. So, you know, we're all, like we said, today was the last day of, you know, we all start to get miserable, you know, tomorrow at 9 o'clock and realize, figure out where our holes are. And all 32 teams try to make themselves better start tomorrow here.

So we'll just continue to watch our group and try to stay as connected as we can to see what's going on around the lake. Tree, well, healthy, you know, I wouldn't call it argument, but more of a debate about the goaltending. you know, you've got two good guys, you've got a kid in the minors who is a monster and has an opportunity to be an NHL goaltender as well. But, you know, are you looking for, I mean, maybe this is more between you and chief, but is this, are you looking for one to push through and play 50 plus?

Or are you just comfortable with more, you know, going back and forth and having guys in that 40 range if they're healthy? Yeah, it's a good question. Meadles, it's, you know, the more you look around in the league, You know, we all know the guys that, you know, are the guys that play every night, and there's becoming less and less of it. You know, a lot of it, too, sometimes is schedule-driven. We're in a year here where, you know, everything's so compressed with the Olympic schedule.

You're playing every other night. You've got your back-to-backs, your three-and-fours, four-and-sixes, all that sort of stuff. so it's not necessarily we're not looking at it say okay somebody's got to go play 5055 we think we think strongly between the two guys we're looking to have good goaltending each night

and we think that you know we saw it last a year ago at this time we were sitting here and there's some question marks right we believed in both guys but neither one at the time I don't know if anybody played more than 20 some odd games

and so they both played career highs last year they were both fresh obviously solely went through went through an injury process throughout the year but they gave us good goaltening so we're not necessarily focused

of saying okay somebody's got to go grab it for 50 plus I think what we feel comfortable is we're going to get good goaltending between the two of them you're right you know you've got the beast down there who's you know going into his third year now so

you know he's he's he's coming along um the young act jamov so we think we've got some depth there in the position but you know between anthony and joe we want to keep them healthy and and if they are we think we think we're going to get good goaltending each night and that's the expectation with brad tree living so um you know this is the first time in over a decade brandon shanahan is not running the operation down there and that was obviously you know a significant change in terms of the organization's hierarchy and he was the guy that brought you in and i think a lot of people curious about you know the day-to-day operation was shantahan not around i'm i'm interested in that or i'm i guess i'm going to ask you that brad in terms

of your role and your day-to-day operations how different is it this year compared to last year well it's changed a little bit obviously shan he had a big i mean he he he was the president of the team and he had a big influence on the team, and, you know, we talked, you know, we talked, you know, every day and throughout the day, and so he'll be missed. You know, my role, for the most part, really hasn't changed. You know, it's focusing on our team. It's focusing on our players, our staff.

How do I best support them? How do I, you know, at the end of the day, how do we put the pieces here together and make our team as good as it can be. And so the job description hasn't changed. There's a few different things now that I'm more involved in than they were previously. But we've got, I'm very fortunate to have a great staff around me

and, you know, they've taken on some more things, whether it be through Brandon Pridham, Shane Donne, you know, throughout the organization in the different departments. So there's a little bit more that there's a little bit more that's come through in terms of the transition, but, you know, I know

I know where my focus is and that hasn't changed, you know, from last year to this year. And so, you know, where my energy is directed to be for the most part exactly how it's been since I got here. Well, it'll be fun to have you guys back on the ice.

as of tomorrow, and you don't really ease into it right back into games this weekend. It's going to be great. Hockey's back, and it's always great of you to find time for us. We appreciate you doing this. Thank you. You bet. Look forward to talking to you guys more and go jays down the stretch here, right? Absolutely.

Red hot. They don't lose. They do not lose. It's incredible. Thanks, Brad. Okay, guys. Brad Tree Living, GM of the Leafs. And I saw Masters was down there.

Chris Johnson, Pierre LeBron, and Pierre had a really interesting observation. You know, he effectively said it felt, okay, we have it. Why don't we play it? There we go. Perfect. Here's what Pierre LeBron had to say about kind of the vibe and the mood around the team today compared to the last decade. Let's start with the mood in that room today as they met the media. To me, it's unmistakable how light the mood was compared to the past decade.

We're talking about the Shanna plan no longer. here. Brendan Shannon, obviously let go as team president. Always talk the disappointing playoff performances on this day. How do they turn the page? How do they get better? Player contracts. Marner, that hung over the entire room, the entire year last year. A few years ago, Kyle Dubus entering the final year of his deal, we did a chat about that. Then Sheldon Keefe, lame duck coach. It's always been a situation where you felt like people had their hair on fire on this day and that the story just fed from there. Not the case today. Sink or swim. This is more than ever

Brad Tree Living and Craig Brube's team. There's a calmness around this team right now. Doesn't mean they're going to figure it out like the previous administration, but it certainly feels calmer right now. That's interesting and like everything he says is right. Like Shanahan you know, he was a massive

presence. Like a massive presence. It was clearly his team, his operation. And you know, he learned a lot from Lou Lamarillo and Shanahan were kind of hip to hip in terms of the way that they kind of wanted things run, and that's fine, but, you know, Marner's not here. Last year, that was a huge story.

Year before it was Will Keefe survived? What happens without Duvus? And, you know, it's an interesting observation that it just seems much more relaxed, and there isn't some massive, like, elephant in the room hanging around this team right now. That's true. I mean, they just need to focus on playing. There isn't really, the storylines, like Trees said, they're internal. He's got too many NHL bodies there.

They sort out who's playing. How does the calmness, like, filter into the players, though, going out there. He's like, I don't know. I mean, I guess you guys can speak to it, like, one year over the next in terms of whether or not, is it a positive? Is it a negative? Does it have any effect whatsoever? I don't know. I mean, I guess we'll find out.

I just found the comment calmness weird. Like, was it, like, chaotic or something that we're not knowing about? I think what he's indicating is that in the past there was always this kind of. a like shanahan and lou ran a tight ship man like that's what they ran they ran they ran that doesn't mean that this is wild dorm room craziness i don't think that's what pierre's suggesting and i i know for a fact craig broube that's not how he's going to run the operation but it was you know babcock and lou and shanahan it was tight man it was prickly it was just like yes like and that's i'm being respectful with it but you like to me if if you want to have a different outlook

You can be a little bit more relaxed, still professional, but accessible. I think that's the word is, you know, the players can relax and talk with how they want to. I think in years past, it's like it's Lou, it's Cheney, it's kind of buttoned up, one word answers. Everything's kind of tight. Maybe things are a little bit looser. Right. And how that affects their play, I don't know. I'm not sure it will.

But it might be in terms of the accessibility and the fan experience. I don't think that's anything but a positive. Well, ask Johnny about that. Mike Johnson in about 20 minutes. Overdrive continues. TSN 10-50 and on the TSNF. Seasoned gamer or just video game curious, this week in gaming is the podcast for you.

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down at Steinbrenner Field, which I love that it's owned by the Yankees and the Rays play there. It's got to be sickening if you're a race fan. They have a sign-up, like thanks to the Yankees for allowing us to use your park. It's the Yankees. you know like if it was any other team baltimore okay

whatever the jays all right the yankees you got it you have to use the yankees facility to get through your season you wonder how many guys were like i ain't playing i just don't want to do it i just don't want anything like you look at the facilities in big league sports nowadays

yeah that ain't it man no it's terrible terrible no it's not so you got them you got them going tonight you got the lease back on the ice. You get the Argos in action on Friday night with the Alouettes in town. The Argos are going to be down to their third-string quarterback, which stings because Arbuckle's been so good.

It's so good this year. Chad Kelly just never, it's never even in the conversation. He's back around the team, but it's, I just don't, I get the impression he's not going to play this year. I think that's very clear.

Arbuckle will return, but this is a big game on Friday night. We're going to be down there, doing the show from Bimo Field, which we cannot wait for that. It would be a part of the broadcast. There it is. Yeah, they've been playing that during the CFL games all weekend.

Like, you look at the coach. Look at the coach. I'm intense, man. That's a coordinator, though. Like a head coach wouldn't act that way. That doesn't even look like you. I look like a homeless guy that they're like, hey, put this hoodie on and hold that jersey. Doing the laundry.

And then O looks like Biff. Yeah, I love how they make O a football player, of course, jacked arms. And the cheerleader. Look at the shirt on this guy. Owen Wilson. Is that a ref or a cheerleader? He's a cheerleader there. Yeah, he's a cheerleader.

And his hair looks actually very good there. He should look into possibly using that as an inspiration. Brian, that doesn't look like you. He's flying on him these days. All of us look like ourselves except for you, Hayes. You don't look like you. I don't look like you. I think it looks exactly like you.

No, it looks like. You know, he looks like John Bartlett. Do you know John Bartlett? Yeah, Johnny Bartlett. I know, so do I. But that's what you look like. Yeah, I saw that. It does kind of look like Bartlett a little bit.

But that's like, I'm not a head coach there. It's not a coordinator. Like that's like a linebacker coach, special teams coach, freaking out about an onside kick that somehow went awry. But yeah, we'll be there Friday. Argos Alouettes down at Bimo. Hour two coming up. Johnny will join us.

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